TROPES YOU HATE

>>90491186
>being this buttflustered at the lego movie

ok

>>90491210
What? No, LEGO (Batman?) movie was fine because it was a parody. its silly on purpose as a joke.
I'm talking about more serious superhero media.

Any "challenge" is purely in your mind. The hero is going to win regardless.

>>90491308
well duh, none of this is ACTUALLY real

The joke where characters are sneaking around and one of them signals the other(s) by doing motions with their hands that look over the top
Then the other character(s) just looks at them with confusion
Then they decide to just do things the simple way

its one of the most used not funny jokes in animation, I see it in almost everything and its never funny, it just pads time

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Oh look. This thread again. Welp, let's get 'em out of the way now...

>nerds are weak, submissive, and friendly
>jocks are dumb violent bullies
>"BUT IF YOU KILL HIM THEN YOU'LL BE NO BETTER THAN HIM!!"
>guy tries to be in multiple places at once
>"The only way to save the world is by killing everyone!"
>"I don't want these powers. I just want to be normal"
>elemental character makes puns based on their element
>the fire and ice duo are always locking horns
>boys vs girls episode
>everyone in the city either LOVES the hero or they all HATE the hero; only one person in the entire city has the opposite opinion

>Hero's about to deliver the final blow
>Some idiot stops him with a 'Kill the villain and you'll be as worse as him' speech

>character gets increasingly exhausted from sleep deprivation
>they eventually pass out from sheer exhaustion
>they wake up a few minutes later and are completely well rested for the rest of the episode

>>90491186
>Inverse Ninja Rule
Yeah, that one is really funny.
Also when they are chivalrous enough, to attack the hero one by one instead of doing a wombo combo.

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>>90491308
Well, you say that...

>>90491186

I'm pretty sure the "hero beats the whole rogues gallery" trope plays more on the fact that the villains are inherently selfish and self-centered, and thus are shit at teamwork, getting in each other's way and what-not.

>joke/weak character gets the girl
Worst shit

>slapstick heavy show
>any female characters are mostly, if not entirely exempt from slapstick

>>90491186
This is why I couldn't take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously. I tuned in to a random episode and not only were the Phantom Stranger and the Spectre arguing over who got to suck Bat's dick, but he effortlessly soloed his entire rogue's gallery when they were all in one room to gang up on him. Where is there to go from there? He's invincible. Story over.

>>90491806
I can't tell if this is ironic or if you really watched Chill of the Night and thought the villain fights were the important part

>>90491186
The mere existence of leaders.
A group must always have a leader, even if that title is informal, because it merely indicates that he is the main character.
It also means that the smart guy or the strong guy can never be leaders, even if it is apparent that they are better suited at this job.

Also no matter how large the group is, be it 5 or 15, there is always one girl who almost always doubles up as the MC's love interst. Recent developments increased the girl ratio as 2 per group, but my fucking /u/ folder won't fill up alone on itself.

>Characters argue, oblivious to a background event that solves the problem.

Unless the background event is REALLY funny, it just serves to pad out time and listening to arguments is rarely fun or interesting.

>>90491891
>A group must always have a leader, even if that title is informal, because it merely indicates that he is the main character.
Sokka isn't the main character.
Hes the leader and comedic relief, while only being a secondary protagonist.

>Character is suspicious of someone, usually with good reason
>Other character is mad at them for not believing everything they say
>This is presented as a problem of trust rather than a problem of ignoring evidence

>>90492002
>sokkafags
Ugh

>>90491886
Yeah yeah, Bats finds the guy who killed his parents, very deep, yadda yadda. More important was the fact that he was somehow the most important person on the face of the planet to two immortals and was shown to be able to take his entire rogue's gallery out at once with about as much effort as I need to toss a wrapper into the trash can. When the protag is that much more powerful than his rogues I lose interest. There's no drama when he is utterly unstoppable unless it's all in fun, and the episode was deadly serious.

>>90492150
What are you ugh-ing about?
I just stated a fact pointing out something that goes against what you hate.

>>90491806
>I couldn't take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously
were you supposed to?

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>>90491738
>Female characters can't have overly exaggerated expressions because it would make them look too ugly

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>Much younger or older version of character
>Has the exact same hair and clothing style

>>90492173
Im not that anon.

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>>90491499
Christ we're predictable.

>character recaps an event in the same episode it happens

>>90491308
The whole story is in your mind you dip.

>>90492519
Still, what are you ugh-ing about?

>>90491499
>>"BUT IF YOU KILL HIM THEN YOU'LL BE NO BETTER THAN HIM!!"
>>90491567
kek

>>90491186
>limited wardrobes
I liked the Weekenders for averting this one.

>>90491891
>A group must always have a leader, even if that title is informal
That's usually how real life works tho.

>>90492556
[WATCH JINGLE INTENSIFIES]

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>evil character tries to join the good guys
> the good guys are a bunch of assholes to him
> he returns to evil because of this

>>90493653
>>evil character tries to join the good guys
Why don't they just become normal instead? Or a informant? A fighter just switching sides is kinda stupid in normal contexts.

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>>90491186
>Character who uses a bow is a scrawny agile bastard or a woman
When will this meme die? A longbow requires some seriously arm and back muscles to draw?

>>90494089
I understand it's a different type of bow but the skinny Asian archery girls at the Olympics are probably what most people think about

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>Protagonist finds out about X place
>His pals or something else stops him from reaching there

>Portal open up
>Demons or other kind of enemies comes out
>Instead of actually going into the portal, it's get shut down and you never see the other side

>Character with good potential gets presented
>You barely see him

>Protagonist has the chance to do amazing shit
>Stay behind instead because of his friends/family

>One of the main character destroy something important and can't stop acting like a dumbass
>Only get a slap on the wrist

>>90493653
>constantly pull shit
>Expect people to just trust you at face value
>act surprised when they think you pulled shit
>cry back to your villain hole because your past actions had consequences

Nah, go to hell. Im all for given folk a chance to redeem themselves but that requires actions and you're just being retarded if you think just becuase they're good guys they have to be nice to the guys who often try to kill them

>>90494285
Gravity Falls, right?

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>WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?
>The worst happens
>BUT AT LEAST IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE!
>It gets worse
>Girl likes nice boy as a friend, the asshole guy is the one she likes
>Even when asshole guy gets outed as an asshole, nice guy goes hungry and gets a pity kiss

>>90491186
A lot of villains are one trick ponies that are easily defeated past the initial "not knowing their weakness" phase

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>>90494513

>There's NO WAY I'm doing that
>Cuts to the character doing that

>Draw a person
>Call them a robot

[Autistic screeching]

>Alien/fantasy race
>Males are properly monstrous, alien, or inhuman
>females are human girls with horns or tails and makeup

[LOUDER AUTISTIC SCREECHING]

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Badass villains killed off before their time.
>Hero is some 2-dimensional schmuck
>Villain looks absolutely badass and/or has deep, meaningful backstory
>He gets killed off in the first battle or by a sidekick
WHY WHY WHY WHY DO THEY DO THIS?????? It's happened so many times!

>General Grievous
>Darth Maul
>in Netflix's Daredevil
If you watch it you'll know who I'm talking about, I had just started liking this character when they were removed.
>General Zod in Man of Steel (2013 Superman movie)
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CANNOT CONTAIN MY AUTISM JUST WATCH THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvvze5m5juE
>Zod: [epic monologue]
>Zod: I am going to make them suffer, Kal-El. These humans you've adopted, I will take them all from you, one by one!
>Superman: *breaks Zod's neck* lol k.
The worst part of this was that IIRC, Superman had just thwarted Zod's plans by sending his terraform devices to the Phantom Zone. The writers could have easily contrived it so that Superman threw Zod into a portal to the Phantom Zone instead of offing him, but no, let's kill off the most sympathetic movie villain of all time.

Pic related is how I feel about whoever made Man of Steel (mildly NSFW).

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>>90491806
>This is why I couldn't take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>why I couldn't take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>I couldn't take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>take Batman: The Brave and The Bold seriously.
>I
>couldn't
>take
>Batman:
>The
>Brave
>and
>The
>Bold
>seriously.
>e
>r
>i
>o
>u
>s
>l
>y.

>>90494677
>Alien/fantasy race
>Males are properly monstrous, alien, or inhuman
>females are human girls with horns or tails and makeup
You've gotten it backwards, mate.
http://oglaf.com/dimorphism/

>>90495078
>Batman does NOT EAT NACHOS!!!
>The Hammers of Justice are Unisex

>>90491499
Every single time.

>>90491806
This is either bait or you're the most retarded son of a bitch alive. Strongly consider killing yourself, please.

>>90494981
>of all time

Let's not get carried away now, mang

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>>90494677
>Males are properly monstrous, alien, or inhuman
>females are human girls with horns or tails and makeup
High five, anon. I've gotten sick of the influx of monster girls recently.

>>90495146
yeah, but they shouldn't just go
>lol, girl but with horns
should be a somewhat less ugly form of the male with different proportions, just as a male is compared to a female or vice versa

>It's a Boys vs Girls episode
>Girls who never do X bitch about how they're never allowed to do X
>Girl and Boys have competition about who can do X the best
>Girls either win or tie Boys despite not having any of the practice the Boys do.

>>90495359
>buh buh muh wominz
>muh wominz can do anyting even if they can't

>>90495359
>Boys are entirely fine with women in literally every other episode.
>Turn into raging misogynists for this one episode alone.

>>90495359
>Lisa Simpson tried to pull that off in one episode
>gets told there are already girls on the football squad
>"W-well.... football isn't really my THING..."

BTFO

>>90491186
fuckin' Static, man.
he makes a joke out of his villians before school and still makes it in time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KWeKZyxEZA

>>90495282
>Let's not get carried away
Honestly, I can't find a flaw with Zod as he is portrayed in Man of Steel. He was from a caste of warriors; bred and raised to protect Krypton and its people, and that is what he did to the best of his ability without regard for himself or anyone around him. He was an entire race's survival instinct distilled down into one man, and his race was in mortal peril, so can you blame him for acting the villain? Can you blame him for going to extreme lengths?

Imo Zod is the most sympathetic because his background and simplistic personality leave no room for questioning his morals; he is less a man than he is a force of nature, and so we are sympathetic both to his struggles to save his people and to his status as a tool to his people.

You have other sympathetic villains, like Dr. Freeze, but you can question their methods. Yeah he loves his wife, but is he going to save her at the expense of innocent people? What if he causes the untimely demise of another man's wife? Is he blind to the irony of such a situation?

>>90491186

I dislike any kind of 'ancient prophecy' trope...

I have a degree of distaste for the 'Soul-mate/destined lover', 'The Power of Love conquers all', and 'Good will always triumph over Wickedness' tropes...

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>>90491806

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>>90492267
>female characters have more proper body proportions than male characters.

>>90491734
Your life must suck.

>>90496420
>female characters wear clothing while males don't

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>character is carrying a lot of money
>money falls onto the ground
>they dont pick it up

>hero spares the villian
>villian dies anyway

>>90496568
Honestly that's just begging for rule 34 at that point.

>>90496663
>Likable villain get defeated and redeemed.
>He sacrifices himself to save hero's life/friends/love-interest later in the same episode.

>>90491499
>>boys vs girls episode
this one's a guilty pleasure of mine actually

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>the main character who is normal smart or rational acts stupid/makes bad decisions in this one episode alone just for this episode's plot to work.

or

>main character(s) becomes an asshole(s) for this episode only for no reason/unfair reasons

>character packs up his shit and runs away after misunderstanding
>female henchmen don't stay loyal to the big bad
>cast consists of handsome hero, kick-ass woman, nerd with glasses and food-loving brute
>character's pants rip apart, has ''embarrassing'' or uncharacteristic underwear
>the most powerful and dangerous mcguffin is easily achievable and usually you have to punch its guard in the face and just take it from his hand
>no one can spot the obvious evil doppelganger
>no one believes the prankster in a serious matter since he's always fooling around.
>characters can't come clean on a simple lie and they let everything go to hell instead and make it 100 times more embarrassing to tell the truth later

>>90496757
Legitimately curious here, what is it about them you enjoy?
Is it everyone acting out of character just so the episode works?

>It's a time travel episode
>It's a body swap episode
>It's a gender swap episode
>it's a time skip episode

I unironically love all these

>>90491262

>"more serious" superhero media

>>90495078
>Green Arrow shooting Guy Gardner using Plastic Man as bow
What fucking ep???

>>90496859
I always been a fan of Power Swap episodes.

>>90496892

Yeah, that too.

>>90496884
Death Race to Oblivion, the Wacky Racers episode.

>>90494663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmIaL2BK1Zk

>>90491186
>Guys vs Girls episode
>Guys start acting completely out of character and become complete dicks
>Girls always win or it end in a draw, guys NEVER win.

Child scientists
I fucking hate child scientists and geniuses and the like. The only times it's acceptable is when they get constantly stood up by characters with actual experience

Obvious off-shoot is needless technobabble and
>in english please

>>90491499
>>"The only way to save the world is by killing everyone!"
To be fair, Chew played that straight and pulled it off wonderfully.

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>group of normally competent characters butts head with new rivals
>their express purpose for existance is being a palette swap of the protagonists, expect 'better.' they will spend most of the episode dancing circles around them.
>they will one up or predict every move of the protagonists to the level of omnipotence, or the protagonists will catch down syndrome and be the butt of every slapstick joke
>protagonists eventually find one extremely arbitrary weakness of their rivals, and their rivals themselves suddenly become helpless retards in the face of it
>they are defeated easily and never seen again

>>90493653
>see? I told you. He was evil ALL ALONG

>>90496716
It's not like the clothes are gonna stop it.

>>90496757
>Boys vs Girls Episode
>In a twist, it's the boys who are friendly and willing to share, but the girls want to cut into their time anyway
>Girls commentate because it's a Boys vs Girls Episode the Girls will win every time because it's how the world works.
>Get mercilessly slaughtered. Guys willing to let bygones be bygones
>Rejection of the offer, the girls march away
>Guy shrugs, wondering what just happened and stares at audience
>Iris Out

>>90497981
didn't this kinda happen in teen titans with aqualad? I don't remmerb him thinking he was Robin's rival though.

>>90491308
Sometimes they actually lose anon, they can lose super hard

>>90494338
In Xmen Evolution it was something that definitely annoyed me. Avalanche did try to join the Xmen and do right, if not for slightly selfish reasons. Sure, he goofed around a bit during training but for the most part did his best (Scott getting annoyed at him destroying the entire target area with his powers, even though his powers are specifically designed for leveling large areas).

He was blamed THRICE for wrecking the various vehicles, despite having nothing to do with the first 2 and actually trying to stop the 3rd wreck (and stop the newbies from crashing and dying). Scott blames Lance YET again and gives a half assed apology to make up for that and the shit they put him through during training. He leaves as a neutral party, but is understandably pissed. Makes sense why Boom Boom left too, Scott and Jean were bigger hard asses than Logan and Ororo in that AU.

>>90498083
>>90495359

>Girl vs Boys episode
>Girls are uncharacteristically cunty and competitive
>Boys start mouthing off random sexist stuff they never said prior to episode
>girls are suddenly more athletic, intelligent and cooperative than the boys, and defeat them in majority of the contests(even girl characters that fucking hate each other work together to beat the boys)
>something happens and it ends in a tie, but you can tell the animators obviously were biased towards girls
One of these days, someone with balls has to make something where the boys just effortlessly stomp the girls team.

>>90491186
>A.I. is crapshoot this trope outright made me despise entertainments viewpoints
>Wounded Gazelle Gambit happens in tv it's annoying happens in real life it's annoying
>Battle of the Sexs no matter what show it is it always sucks hairy donkey balls
>Tempting Murphy's Law STOP SAY WHAT CAN GO WRONG?!? YOU ARE TEMPTING FATE!
>ALL GAY TROPES EVER MADE! The worst being No happy ending for gays and rape you to make you love me
>abusing a character that deserves it for no reason just so you can write a joke
>All adults are stupid the trope that gave Matt Groening, Trey Parker, and Matt Stone critical acclaim so now they've been doing it over and over again with barely any good change to the characters
>Kids vs Adults
>You have to keep your identity a secret because...reasons Miraculous Ladybug and Jem are the reasons I hate this one but other ones like in comics have somewhat good reasons

>>90496590
Here's your (((you)))

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>i know you're in there, fight it!

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>>90491567
>Hero kills a TON of random grunts
>Hero's about to deliver the final blow to the boss
>I won't kill you, that would make me like you

>>90491186

Snyder is victim to doing this the most. In like the first panel of his Batman run he easily fights Riddler (a fucking question mark mohawk), Penguin, Scarecrow, Pyg, Bane and others all at the same time.

>>90491186
>villain is shown to be sympathetic and just a victim of circumstances
>you see? in the real world, there are no heroes and vil-
>oh, except these guys that made that guy turn into a villain, they sure are worse than Satan
BTAS did this shit a lot

>>90491186
Like when Spider-Man solos the entire Sinister Six?

Fuck that Spider sense bullshit

>>90500567
>tfw you realize Spider-Man wearing symbiote while fighting SS in Spectacular SM was intentional
holy fuck, this show is indeed genious

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>>90491186
>Popular kids are assholes
>It's a Wait it's not what you think! episode
>Previous bad guy becomes a scrub to make the new villain of the week look stronger
>Female character starts the apocalypse due to a temper tantrum, patted on the back by every character that it's ok
>Male character spills his spaghetti in a relationship game, is treated worse than Hitler

>>90500592
>Female character starts the apocalypse due to a temper tantrum, patted on the back by every character that it's ok

Technically, it's not even a pat on the back, nobody even finds out she did it.

Are the rest of these Gravity Falls things?

>Male character makes a mistake.
>Suffers the consequences, often painfully, publicly, and more than they deserve.

>Female character makes a worse mistake.
>It's a miracle if they even have to apologize

>enemy boss with his goon squad
>goon squad fucks up the protagonist and his gang
>protagonist wants to beat enemy boss

From here two things may happen
1
>Protagonist seeks a new power that's stronger than the last power he got and goes through the goon squad with it until he conveniently forgets about it

2
>Protagonist goes through power of friendship shit and somehow beats the goon squad the same exact way he lost to them previously.

>evil villain's motivation is "love" for the hero
That one is always awful.

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>>90498743
Didn't one of the Sandlot movies involve the girls getting BTFO?

>If you kill him, you'll be like him!
>Spares villain
>Villain goes on to kill more people

>>90500481
>villains seems to be sympathetic and apparently has understandable motivations, sometimes even admirable ones
>"hurr I tricked you, I was evil all along" because God forbid the hero doesn't look in the right
>is reduced to being a moustache-twirling asshole for the rest of the story

I have no problem with pure evil villains, but this one is annoying.
Russians know what comic I'm referring too, right?

>>90500880
Too many shows to count do this

>>90501167
There are only a handful of ways it can logically end, and even when it's written well it's mostly just uncomfortable to watch

>>90501093
how do you think it should be handled then?

>>90498083
>>90498743
What I would do for one of these episodes is have it be one chick who tries to get the rest of her friends to play a game none of them have ever played, and instead of sides getting angry at each other, the dudes start to realize that none of the girls know how to play, so they stop halfway through and use it as an opportunity to teach them how. The antagonistic chick leaves halfway through and everyone else has a good time with the game.

>>90492605
The whole world is in your mind.

>>90497392
Well it was an explicit threat rather than just an ideological thing. There's a world of difference between a villain who thinks everyone needs to die so he can remake society perfectly and a villain that thinks everyone needs to die because an alien chicken species has threatened to blow up the planet unless all chicken eaters are killed

>character works hard and makes sacrifices for others
>character is given a chance to do something for themselves
>everyone calls the character 'selfish ' for wanting to do this thing

>>90501315
>just uncomfortable to watch
That's how I feel but not for the reasons you might think. All it gives me is second-hand embarrassment for the villain and loss of ability to see them as a credible threat. That's why yandere archetype is trash.

>>90496420
Female character has coloured hair and a skull icon somewhere on her clothes is basically one by itself.

>>90501399
That's part of the reason it's uncomfortable to watch for me too, actually.

It might have been part of the reason everybody likes Bill Cipher as a villain more than Gideon

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>>90501394
FUCKING

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>>90501292

>kills 78 henchmen on the way to villain
>"no, I won't kill you, I'm not like you"

>>90491186
It only works if it's the finale of the series, like Ninja Storm. Otherwise yeah, it kills all tension in later stories.

>Future is ruled by evil corporation/government
>Villain is evil businessman/politician

>girl helps guy bestfriend win the girl of his dreams while she's secretly in love with him, only for him to find out that his dream girl isn't the person he thought she was, and that his true love was actually his best friend, so they get together in the end

>Character does something like shoplift a candy bar, is then given tje death penalty or lifetime in prison.

>other character robs a bank or causes massive property damage, is not punished at all

>crime lord in modern times
>their only known territory is a small city
Even fucking Cartels or African-American gangs are now international. This is a pet peeve of mine. Always takes out of the story if it's set in the modern day.

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>Everything is a part of, has been factored into, the villain's plan

>>90491186
>School dance episode
>Everyone has partners to the dance and if you don't you're a loser
>inb4 "but you are"
Most people at my high school went alone.

>>90501540
This trope in particular infuriates me.

>>90500880
>tfw when MLP has a mostly female cast so it's almost never done
wow MLP is actually superior to GF in something

>>90501540
Guy is oblivious to love
The girl is practically throwing herself at him, and he still figure out how she feels.
How can he be that dense?

>>90491186
>Any female pursuing a guy will either will get the guy or get a better guy
>If a guy pursues a girl, all bets are off

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>cartoon with furries (Chip&Dale/Talespin/Shit ton of other cartoons)
>all male characters drawn like a cool antropomorphic animals
>all females are just hairy human females with animal head
I know there was such comment somewhere in this thread but this specific "furfag shit" was bothering me for a long time even when i was a kid.

I know this why people wanted to fuck Gadget and that bunny from Space Jam but fuck you.
I always cringed at "sexy furry female" when i was a kid. And i cringe at them now.

>>90491186
I think part of this is that half the time the villains don't really co-operate. They're villains, and tend to be selfish or evil in nature, so any team ups tend to be more about a plan that each has simply worked half on, and not one plan that they've all worked together on.

>>90501746
spike episodes were the worst becaue of that

>>90501650

This. Maybe 10% had dates. Most people hooked up at the dance.

>>90491186
Eh, I like villains who are untouchable for reasons behind being physically strong. They know where the antidote is, or they're holding someone hostage, or they're a public figure. Superman could beat up Lex Luthor with a finger but there's no way he can do it and not be instantly reviled.

>>90501812
>Guy tries to talk to girl or even looks in her general direction, and is labeled a pervert
>Girl obsesses over guy or has a new crush every week, everyone thinks it's cute or encourages her to chase after him

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>>90501540
A certain show I'm watching seems to be going down that exact route you described.

>>90501937
>>Guy tries to talk to girl or even looks in her general direction, and is labeled a pervert
>>Girl obsesses over guy or has a new crush every week, everyone thinks it's cute or encourages her to chase after him


>guy stops relationship
>WHOA WHAT AN ASSHOLE HOLY SHIT

>girl stops a relationship
>kek finally you ditched that looser!
>that cuck will be running around/trying to get back to that girl for the rest of the episode/show

>>90493653
>Neutral character has self esteem issues
>Neutral character has learning disabilities
>The heroes are constantly irritating the neutral character without knowing it.
>Neutral character suddenly discovers he can be just as strong as the heroes and get them to fuck off.
>But only if he works longer and harder than every single one of them.
>Neutral character busts ass, gets handed what is objectively the hardest setting to accomplish obtaining superpowers in the known multiverse.
>Neutral character also gits gud at drawing in his already virtually nonexistent free time.
>Neutral character becomes supervillain because the heroes have been fucking with him this entire time when he just wanted to be left alone.
>Narrative treats this like neutral character is the bad guy.

>character stands up to bully.
>character is called a bully themselves for doing so

>>90502077
where is this from?

>>90502434
Final boss of Homestuck

>>90502467
Ah, so trash, then.

>>90502477
>Implying Caliborn isn't better-written than 90% of /co/'s antagonists.

>>90498743
I remember Chaotic having a legitimately good Boys vs Girls episode, but I can't remember what actually happened in it to make it different.

>>90495078
Brave and the Bold was too good for this world.

>>90494513
>>Girl likes nice boy as a friend, the asshole guy is the one she likes
>>Even when asshole guy gets outed as an asshole, nice guy goes hungry and gets a pity kiss

You sound hurt.

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>stupid boy, smart girl
>stupid girl, smart boy

Sometime they're done right, but this is getting annoying

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>>90502550

>People assist to a all girl VS all boy team
>They start talking about the history behind each girls in the team
>You still get to see the girls being wrecked
>At the end it's get revealed the all girl team was held by a boy, and the all guy team by a girl
>Nobody knows who they should root for, the girl that won with her all boy team, or the boy that lost with his all girl team

>Girl bullies boy
>Turns out they only do it because they have a crush on said boy

That's one of those tropes I just can't get behind. I like The Loud House fine enough, but I tend to skip episodes where Lincoln and Ronnie Anne's relationship gets story focus.

>>90501314
name one

>>90491495
I liked when south park did it

>>90496881
>implying the lego movie was serious

KYS

>>90494513
>>WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?
>>The worst happens
>>BUT AT LEAST IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE!
>>It gets worse
Always gets a laugh out of me. I'm easy.

>>90494677
>tfw im in animation/entertainment design
>doing crits in class
>dude pulls up the most edgelord possible design
>pulls up the dude's "monster girl" henchman who is a *~*frankenstein*~*
>its literally a generic anime girl with gray skin
>even the teacher tells him to fuck off

>>90494285
Literally Steven Universe

>>90493653
>villain wants to become a good guy
>they tell him he would need to sit out his prison sentence for killing all those people
>villain says never mind and continues to be a fugitive from the law

>>90501754
>Guy is oblivious to love

To be honest, that one hits a little too close to home for me.

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>>90502611
It really was

>>90501540
Nice Boat

>>90504034
Were you in that other thread?

>guy falls in love and sleeps with girl he just met
>finds out they are siblings

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>>90491186
>Idiot Ball/Idiot Plot - just pisses me off in a serious plot
>Invincible Hero - every fight would be meaningless. Why did you do this to yourself? (One Punch Man averted)
>You Can't Fight Fate - mixed feelings
>Senseless Sacrifice
>Stupid Sacrifice

>>90505165
Invincible heroes can be fun when they enough charisma to pull it off. If any of /a/'s husbandos like Tatsuya or Yuuji had as much charisma as Alucard did, maybe I wouldn't hate their shows so much.

>>90493840
Maybe because they really want to atone for their sins and think just stopping their own villainy and living a civilized and charitable life doesn't suffice. Maybe they want to get back against their villainous superiors?

Don't know if it was posted already but I really hate those "prophecy" plots.
So basically some ancient smartass wrote down what will happen in the future with near 100% accuracy.
And the ending is either unfinished or protags don't read it for whatever reason.

>>90491186
>"If you kill him, you'll be just like him"

>>90498848
I, too, browse TVTropes.

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>female villains
>always given an option to redeem themselves
>male villains
>"LOL screw you guys, you'll always be bad!"

Fuck you, Batman and Beast Wars.

>>90491891
Have you heard of the army? Do you know how it works?

Fuck it.

>show has a character that's cooler than the main character
>he/she only appears once a season or so and disappears again I both hated and loved how they pulled that shit with Shadow in Sonic X
>character gains unimaginable power but it resets by the end of the episode
>villain wants power for the sake of it, world domination or extinction of life because "humans are a disease"
>recurring villains every episode
>alien race that lives in another galaxy at the opposite end of the Universe
>can speak perfect English and look like an average human, except their names are something like "Sha'Jar"
>character called Dark X
>his theme is just a slower version of the protagonist's theme
>Dark version of the protag has black hair, black attire and is always edgy
>ending theme is just the instrumental version of the opening
>father is always borderline retarded, the mother is always some mom out of the 1950's, the younger sister is the smartest and the brothers are nearly retarded

>>90506573
I mean, Clayface has recently been redeemed in the comics, so there's that.

>>90491186
I hate when Aliens look down on humans for either not having intergalaxtic travel or just starting to get into it. Always calling humans barbarians

>>90501476

Japanese media is terrible about this. They also have

>Villain kills/hurts countless amounts of innoncese.

>Is arbitrarily added to the hero's party when defeated with everything bad they did never mentioned again.

Vegeta is the most popular example of this I can think of. Fucking literally genocides entire planets.

>>90498848
>You have to keep your identity a secret because...reasons
>Jem
Oh god, Jerrica was the absolute worst because she didn't tell Rio for literally no reason then macked on him as Jem then ended up getting jealous when he reciprocated? Get your shit together, girl.

>>90501754
Art imitates Life

>>90508056
>Japanese media
That reminds me of another one
>Heroes finally succeed in defeating evil in climax
>Get Gainax Ending afterwards
New52's Future's End falls into that category.

>>90496859
>body swap

AS LONG AS THE VOICES DONT SWITCH BODIES TOO

Batman and Spiderman are the only ones with rogues at their level.

Most of Flashes rogue gallery are idiot street levelers with advanced weapons.

>>90502335
That's how it's treated in schools nowadays with their "zero tolerance" policy.

>>90491891

>It indicates that they are the main character

Garnet isn't the main character
Sokka isn't the main character
Mako isn't the main character, though to be fair none of the 4 crewmembers were qualified to be leader apart from Bolin who was the only one more patient than weeded up piranhas at a buffet.
Zordon isn't the main character
ALL MIGHTO SAN isn't the main character

>>90493653

To be fair, this only happened in Xioalin, and only because Spicer being a villain was the best thing about the show, which the writers must have been told after finishing the first draft.

>>90494677

>ALL MONSTERS OF BOTH GENDERS MUST BE EQUALLY FUCKABLE

...Well, I just learned something about myself today.

>>90494981

To be fair, I always thought the point of the movie was the fact that being strong and kind wasn't enough, and that Supes actually had to sacrifice some of his ideals and fellow men if he wanted to save people.

>>90501519

>Future is ruled by evil corporation/government

[TARTOVSKY RAGE INTENSIFIES]

>>90503001
>>Girl bullies boy
>>Turns out they only do it because they have a crush on said boy

I haven't seen this trope in the long time, but I'm used to hearing/seeing the opposite in real life.

>Boy bullies Girl
>Turns out they only do it because they have a crush on said Girl

...now that I think about it, I've seen both in real life. A lot.

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>>90504609
Never seen that in /co/ stuff.

Only /tv/ stuff/ like Star Wars and pic related.

>>90501643
I loved Young Justice but The Light was just too well set up. They practically ran the planet.

>>90500592
>>90500863
>Male character spills his spaghetti in a relationship game, is treated worse than Hitler
yeah pretty sure it's GF with that Dipper tries out the batchelor life and WHOOPS, THEY ALL JUST HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME AND ONE OF THEM WAS HIS SISTER'S FRIEND SO HE'S AN EVEN WORSE PERSON
yeah, sounds like GF

>One side character who is nice to the main characters
>Turns out to be the main villain the entire time

Fuck Disney

>City is completely destroyed by villain
>Is fixed in next episode.

>>90508727
Yep and Miraculous Ladybug is no better.
>I love Adrian (but I'm friends with Chat Noir)
>I love Ladybug (but I'm friends with Marinette)
oh my god stop the insanity and madness, is there a reason why they have to keep their identity a secret...NO...do they explain what happens if they reveal they have kwami...NO...I know someone is going to play Devil's Advocate with me on this but I have to ask: WHY IS THE BLUE HELL DO THEY JUST SAY WHO THEY ARE TO EACH OTHER!?!

>>90503077
Gravity Falls
Adventure Time
Regular Show
Dexter's Lab
Johnny Test
Xiaolin Showdown

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>Character goes with out sleep for one or several nights
>They are able to basically operate normally

>>90491186
I hate it when a cartoon/comic includes or brings up a trope specifically to make a big show about how stupid and awful it is and how all the sane characters hate it and think it can't and shouldn't happen. It pretty much always ends up with a strawman that makes far less sense than a serious use of the trope would, forcing all of its supporters to be generically stupid and say/do/think stupid things for no reason, and inadequately explains why it would even happen (or be expected) in the supposedly "smart" world if it's such a stupid and nonsensical idea.

For example, they might have a character who is randomly declared "The Chosen One" by a group of idiotic cultists for stupid reasons, who expect him to be great and awesome and defeat the bad guy, and of couse he fails miserably to make room for the real protagonists because ha ha there's no such thing as a chosen one and prophecies are stupid. But if they're so stupid, why would there even be a cult? If prophecies don't mean anything, why do those idiots have them at all, and why is there some random guy who happens to fit it so well (minus the "actually competent in any way that matters" part)? And why does everyone (apart from the long-suffering Few Sane Characters) believe them so strongly? When a work tries to seriously have "The Chosen One" in it, usually there's a reason for that to actually mean something.

On a related note, it's annoying when someone has non-specific "stupidity" as a character trait. It's one thing if they have character flaws or biases, but it's quite another if they just do something stupid things because they're stupid people and it's something a stupid person would do. I know that's "the joke", but it's usually the kind of joke where a person wants to make a point but calls it a joke to avoid admitting that their point doesn't make sense; it's not even much of a joke, because it's been pretty much done to death.

>>90512952
That happens a lot, as does >>90491584
mentioned

>I just want to be normal

>It's an MC is grounded and still has to listen to his parents even though lives are on the line episode

>MC with superpowers just not steamrolling over the bully and saying "fuck it" to the "consequences"

And while on the subject of bullying:

>A bully episode where the bully challenges the MC to a fight like a retard can easily be resolved by the MC...just plain not going to the fight and fucking off somewhere else.

Gravity Falls was especially guilty of this.

>MC's start talking in class while a lecture is in session

Seriously, can these fuckers just not wait until the teachers shut their mouths. It got especially irritating in Code Lyoko.

>main character has some super skill and has to juggle school life, romance, whilst doing super bullshit hiding everything from everyone for some reason.

It doesn't help that the characters are usually shit at hiding/juggling their secret identities too. You'd think writers would come up with some fun ways for the character to actually put effort into maintaining their secrecy. That's one of the things I liked most in Death Note.

>>90509858
>tartovsky rage

Do you mean Genndy Tartakovsky? What cartoon are you talking about?

>>90495710
Freeze trying to save his wife at the expense of another man's wife is analogous to Zod trying to save his race at the expense of another world's race.

>>90514061
this

His objection to having Kryptonians live on Earth in its natural state was that they'd suffer while adjusting, which Clark/Kal managed to deal with while a child, and Zod and crew were disciplined soldiers

He had an easy option to give the kryptonians a new home, but was too caught up by pride to coexist

>>90504065
Alright. I'm impressed even more by this show.

>Wise old mentor dies
>Especially if they were being all cryptic beforehand and hadn't yet revealed all their secrets

>>90512081
>The City Of Townsville!

>>90491186
>Superhero can easily beat his entire Rogue's gallery at once

Holy fuck, this. This is one of the things I absolutely hate about so many cape characters.

>>90494981
>most sympathetic movie villain of all time

Whoa there.

I mean, sure, he's the most sympathetic character in a cast of non-entities and throwaway cardboard cutouts. But he's hardly the most sympathetic villain EVER.

>>90504609
Gravity Falls based on that super popular fanart animation?

>>90501378
I honestly upon rereading noticed that they were always taking that angle. I just thought there was more to it and never considered the origin of the firewriting.

>>90505803
Deep web and shit.

>>90491499
>>elemental character makes puns based on their element
I see you hate fun.

>Pushing a device's buttons rapidly makes it explode
>Two people wrestling over a lever is enough to break it

>Character has a constant goal
>They want to get laid, get rich, uncover someone's secret
>There are episodes entirely devoted to it
>They never get whatever it is they want, and almost always from some shitty, contrived asspull

Steve not losing his virginity in American Dad comes to mind.

>>90491499
>"I don't want these powers. I just want to be normal."

That's actually one of my most-liked tropes

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>the fat best friend of the main protagonist falls in love with a girl
>the two things they have in common is their love of food

>Character learns a lesson.
>They forget it.
>They learn it again.
>Repeat.

How many times has Stan Smith learned to respect his son?

>>90491567

Unless you're in Dragonball, then it's some idiot stops him with "I know it's a selfish request, but could you let him live? I wanna fight him again! I promise I'll defeat him again."

>Alien invasion
>Humans blow up their mother ship
>All aliens shut down

>Villain has the opportunity to kill the hero
>Makes a speech/leaves him in a room to die

>It wasn't really a monster just a guy in a suit
>Everyone leaves
>Real monster appears in the background

>>90514044

Yeah, sorry. Evil entity/empire ruling the future is literally half the premise of samurai jack.

>>90492267
>male characters are nearly / entirely naked
>female characters are fully dressed

>>90514061
Technically yes, but I disagree. Everyone dies eventually and there's no cure for death, but entire races tend not to naturally die off.

>>90514234
>He had an easy option to give the kryptonians a new home, but was too caught up by pride to coexist
You know, I found that scene, and I think it serves as an excellent example of why I loved this version of General Zod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcEH-Itx73A
>Jor'El: You're talking about genocide.
>Zod: Yes, and I'm arguing its merits with a ghost.
Jor'El practically whispers genocide, he says it with such weight. Zod, on the other hand, completely dismisses the idea as if it were nothing, instead staying grounded and reminding himself that he's discussing things with a projection of a dead man.

In my mind, Zod is this ultra-practical dude who mentally struggles to keep his focus on one thing and one thing only: protecting the people of Krypton. It's more practical to genocide humans than to take even the smallest risk in having Kryptonians adjust to the planet. The cost to humans isn't even considered because it's not part of his "programming".

Continuing the scene, you see Zod studiously ignoring Jor'El, commanding the computer to prepare for deletion. Zod talks over Jor'El, doesn't even look at him until:
>Jor'El: My son is twice the man you are.
Zod's ears perk up, he looks over his shoulder, like "the fuck you say, nigger?"
>Jor'El: We will finish what we started. I can promise you that.
Zod turns around, he steps over
Zod glares at Jor'El, he prepares to speak
>Zod: (paraphrasing) Imma fuk u up
Without waiting for a response, Zod deletes Jor'El. Whereas at the beginning of the scene Zod seems like some implacable genocide robot, the end of the scene shows he is "human" after all, and that he isn't immune to insults. He is capable of anger and frustration, yet none of that was present when he was discussing genocide. Zod isn't evil, he's just frighteningly effective at his job.

>>90513162
>But if they're so stupid, why would there even be a cult?
Why does scientology exist?
Why do people believe in star signs? Or hand reading? Or all that other esoteric garbage?

>>90502623
No, pissed off. I feel for any guy that wants to take things to the next level with a girl he likes and actually goes out his way to mention it instead of fumbling his emotions around and not making a move. I knew co-workers that got dogged by girls and then some of them mentioned that said girls tried to go back to them when their relationships went to shit. By then, they were already ready to move on with their careers and goals. It's funnier when you consider that college is just high school with a price.

>>90517280
Fucking Great Wall of all things

>>90517598
Bruuuuuuuh

Surely you don't mean to say you don't dig Jack?

I mean, I don't want to be one of those screeching autists, but damn. Evil corporations I can get, and evil empires frequently fail

But I don't get how a nigga can't dig THE FUTURE THAT IS AKU

>character has to say something important
>just as they are about to say it they get interrupted

>>90518136
>Why do people believe in star signs? Or hand reading? Or all that other esoteric garbage?
Right, but in the context of a comic or cartoon, how is the viewer supposed to know which occult practices make sense in the fantasy world and which ones don't?

4 times out of 5, the writers put on their pork-gloves and create a strawman cult that actually makes sense in their fictional world. e.g.
>Main character pulls ancient sword from stone as foretold by prophecy
>31 episodes later, the MC's sidekick is recognized by some cult as a hero, and the viewer is supposed to believe that the sidekick is gullible and naive for believing in the cult prophecy
I can't recall any specific examples, but I swear I've seen this before. The trope is really almost insulting, like, "Haha stupid sidekick, you thought you could have REAL powers like me??"

Actually, (and maybe this isn't quite the same thing) I've seen the sidekick get offered powers by the badguy several times, but it's the same schtick: "What? My sidekick is advancing the plot? How preposterous! Back to comedic relief with you, Tonto!"


>>90518624
Realsies? I guessed as much from the trailers, don't flame me for this but I judged the trailed very harshly based on how colorful it was.

>>90519283
Spoilers for Great Wall

The Taotei are zerg rushing fuckers that came from a meteor and are basically hiveminded by their queen. If they lose their connection to the queen, they just stop moving completely, which happens when exposed to magnets. When the queen is killed, it's straight up Phantom Menace and the entire taotei swarm just stops dead

A kinda shit movie, but most of the action sequences are fun enough

>>90519283
>Actually, (and maybe this isn't quite the same thing) I've seen the sidekick get offered powers by the badguy several times, but it's the same schtick: "What? My sidekick is advancing the plot? How preposterous! Back to comedic relief with you, Tonto!"

Oof, got the example of that?

>asshole that nobody likes for good reason

>good natured guy who believes in people gives a shit about them despite the asshole spitting on his very presence

FUCK OFF, LARS

>>90519380

sounds like what happens in Ender's Game when a queen was killed.

>>90501249
The second one, yeah, but that one sucked

>>90519601
Ah, you'll have to search TV Tropes.
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SidekickGlassCeiling (sidekicks have to be inferior to heroes)
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerAtAPrice (Powers come with drawbacks)
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Theatre/Faust (the archetypical deal with a devil)
Generally it's like this:
>Sidekick gets BTFO 30 seconds into the episodes, gets jealous of hero, sulks alone
>Badguy, poorly disguised: "Sucks to suck, eh kid? Gee willickers, I just so happen to have a way for you to not-suck right here in my pocket, and I will provide it to you out of the goodness of my heart"
>Sidekick: That sounds sketchy af, I'll take it!
>Hero, to sidekick: "I don't know where u got those powers but they must be EVIL because they take MY spotlight!"
>sidekick: "You're just jealous!"
>Hero: "Y--I mean NUH-UH!!!!"
>(powers turn out to be corrupt)
>Hero: "Told u so lmao"

>this cliche is stupid, good think we're not doing it and making fun of it instead
I hate Joss Whedon for this so much.
It's the most lowbrow, unfunny and unintelligent meta humor out there.

>>90522361
*thing

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>friends get into scuff over stupid shit
>"We're mortal enemies for this episode."
>"You have to take my side, Main Character."
Me, I'd be a sperg, and cut them both off. But my point is, who does this? I get taking sides, but no mediator bullshit? Just plain trying to control what the MC gets to do?

>>90506848
>can speak perfect English and look like an average human, except their names are something like "Sha'Jar"
I just figure universal translators.

>>90492267
THIS.....WHY?!

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>sociopathic little sibling tattles and lies about shit their older siblings did to get them in trouble SOLELY for their own amusement.

>Parents believe them damn near 100% of the because they are cute/put on a cute face

>never occurs to them that if the older sibling is never admitting to them doing it like would normally happen sometimes and instead ALWAYS calls the little sibling's BULLSHIT. and its always the little sibling calling their shit out.

fucking Sarah of Ed, Edd & Eddy and even though its not /co/ Meghan from Drake and Josh.

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>>90511815
Hans?

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>Character is seen as pansy, and coward by his loved ones
>their superhero alter ego is seen as a role-model for courage, kindness, and mankind

>>90494981
Fuck off autismo. It's great Superman finally grew some balls. He also doesn't have a no killing rule. Zod deserved to die. He's sympathetic yes, but he doesn't get to eradicate an entire species because he had it rough. That's notbhow it works.

>>90510904
>That guy who raped a woman while concealing his face and she never knew it was him
>Then he thought the pussy was so good he actually planned an encounter with her in public
>Then he wooed her into marrying him.
>Then when it's discovered he was the one that raped her, she gets mad.

I wasn't really sure what feel they wanted to convey.

>>90500567
Spider-man always holds himself back. He could be a lot more than a street level hero if he cut loose.

>Wise old mentor faces the main villain in battle to buy the protagonist time
>The protagonist goes back and completely invalidates the sacrifice
or
>Wise old mentor faces the main villain
>Hero gets in the way like a dumbass
>Mentor gets killed

Just once I want to see the mentor go up against the main villain one-on-one and win, only to be killed by the villain's deputy once he's become too exhausted to fight another opponent.
Bonus points if he actually kills the guy presented to be the main villain and the hero learns to fight the deputy instead.

>>90508056
What do you want? Goku and his friends to kill him or hold him a trial for shit none of them know he did?
Not to mention he was kept around as a useful until he mellowed out and sacrificed himself.

>>90524970
>hating Superman
Kill yourself

>>90525231
>Old mentor is so OP the author avoids using him in battle

>>90525324
It would explain how he's so fucking old.
>Never trust a young wizard or fight an old warrior.

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>>90501841
I feel you, but somehow I can't help but find this new bunnygirl character from One Piece adorable as fuck. Not fuckable, but kawai sister tier. Furries usually piss me off too. Don't know why I'm so apologetic to the Minks and Carrot.

>>90515229
TOPKEK

>>90524654
OH MY GOD. why do writers think these kinds of characters are good? they're absolute SHIT

>>90525347
> young wizard

Old warrior I get, but why young wizard?

>>90525636
>Don't worry, you guys, I have a spell just for this situation!
Wizards are generally old because all of the dumbasses are dead. Guess when most of the dumbasses die.

>>90525169
Boner fuel, yo.

This is going to sound normalfag as fuck but, I dated a chick for a while and we'd screw while watching SVU.

>>90519121
>never gets brought up again

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>>90491997
>Characters argue while a third/another character tries to alert them of the solution
>the third character is ignored/told to shut up because people are busy arguing
>bonus points if someone else tells them the solution and they ask "why didn't anyone say so? "

>>90501841
I've been trying to get the name of what your pic is for years now, but I just can't seem to remember it. Do you know?

More on topic, I see where you're coming from. It's especially weird when they don't even have typical male body types, like muscle fiends or giant blobs. Why bother then?

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>"Saving the world is easy in comparison to talking to girls!"

>>90511815
>>90524953
Sounds like that bunny from Hoodwinked

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>>90500432
>grunts make a passing reference or point this out

>Two characters are casually chatting up during the battle.

>Hero saves villain.

Yeah I get it when there's the opportunity said villain isn't really bad or could reform, but when it's something like Batman saving the Joker, it makes the hero look like an ignorant self-righteous ass who only cares about looking good.

Speaking of tropes that make the hero look like an ignorant self-righteous ass;
>Hero gets in the way of "villain" getting justified revenge on the asshole who fucked him/her over.

>>90508056
He literallly went to hell.

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>Villan laughs maniacally until they have a coughing fit

>>90524953
Not just Hans, Disney's modern animated movies have been using this trope too often. It's already too predictable and annoying now.

>>90532936
>laughing

>bug flies into their mouth

I laugh

>first and usually only female introduced

>she becomes hero's love interest

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>last two minutes of movie
>protagonist is being awarded a medal or other honour/getting married to the princess/receiving some appreciation for his deeds
>the crowd cheers and celebrates
>fireworks optional
>goofy sidekick character locks eyes with a female equivalent of himself/much hotter chick but she shares some qualities or interests
>she flutters her eyelashes at him
>he kisses her hand/they hug/kiss, whatever they need to do to imply that he won't be alone for the rest of his life like the rest of us

Why do they feel the need to do this?

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>>90537193
To make normies feel satisfied.

Also:
>In the sequel
>Chick the sidekick hooked up with is mentioned in passing
>"Yeah it didn't really work out"
>This is done solely so the sidekick can have a romantic subplot in this movie

>>90494981
Which villain Daredevil?

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>>90500880
Star destroyed that female trope to oblivion.

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>>90501754
This frustrated me for fucking years.

>>90491210
Try Arkham Origins

>>90508056
Unrelated, but it always bothers me that Vegeta says Goku beat him. He beat Goku fair and square. Even when they fight in the Buu Saga, he won. Granted, Goku was holding back, but not once did Vegeta ever lose to Goku

>>90503547
Tell me more about this. I wanna see where this trainwreck leads

>>90503547
>>90540720

I'm sickened but curious

>>90525554
They're not shit, they're just meant to be hated. You know there's a difference right?

>>90525324
Rurouni Kenshin?

hurg

Will they, won't they?

>when you love triangle so hard the two female parties give up on dudes and turn gay

>Superhero can easily beat his entire Rogue's gallery at once. This so much this. This trope is what finally killed what little interest I had left in Dr. Who all of his enemies show up with all their armies and he scares them off with a fucking speech what possible tension can the show have left when all his enemies are that intimidated by him. The worst part is it seems to be one of the shows most popular scenes.

>>90502550
The dude played a waifu deck while the chick played a husbando deck. So nobody knew who to root for so they just let it drop.

>>90500451
I hope to god you don't mean the same Snyder running DCEU into the ground.

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>Wizard of Oz parody episode
Do kids even give a shit

Not one I hate so much as one I don't really get:

>Ghost attempts/succeeds in murdering people.

Couldn't the people they murdered come back as ghosts and kick their ghost ass?

>>90542493
I usually enjoy will they won't they bullshit more than a clear outcome. Most writers can't write stable couples and make them interesting.

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>characters go to America
>aerial shot of New York with loud rap music playing in the background

>>90541242
Like a machine that will always burn your food or a toilet that clogs itself every time you go to flush (it's not a bug, i's a feature), even though they're working as intended, it still doesn't make them good or useful.

If Sarah was written out of the show, nothing would change.

>>90525305
I don't understand why so many Superman fans are so aggressive towards his detractors. Superman would be ashamed seeing you telling a man to kill himself for not sharing your tastes in comics.

>>90544430
Oh hey you found the thread.
Still not a /co/ trope, barely any cartoon features coming to America scenes (and when they do it's usually set way before rap was even a thing like in American Tail or Tintin) and comics don't have music.

>>90544465
>that analogy
Do you have cognitive issues or something?

Foils are useful in fiction.

>>90540208
>taking video game narratives seriously
top jej

>>90498057
True but it creates an uncanny valley effect. Short of the bits we have seen everything there is to see.

>>90544654
What exactly is an annoying younger sibling who always gets their way a foil to?

Batman/Superman are foils because they're both heroic but go about crime fighting in opposite ways.

The only thing the annoying little sister can do is be an antagonist, except because their family always takes their side, it means that they'll always win regardless of whether or not they deserved to get shat on for being fucking assholes.

Like did anyone really get pissed off that DW got hit for breaking Arthur's plane, or when Ed finally told Sarah off (albeit with a pebble in his shoe, but still)?

No, because they're responsible for so much bullshit that it's gratifying to finally see them be punished for something, but of course the show then makes the fact that they got punished seem terrible and they end up learning nothing from their experience and go back to being shitters for the rest of the series.

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>>90496663
>>90496753

Take my rage.

FUCKING TAKE IT

>>90544858
Nevermind, that was me misusing the term "foil" as a synonym for "antagonist".
>it means that they'll always win regardless of whether or not they deserved to get shat on for being fucking assholes.
Well yeah. I'm not seeing the issue here, an antagonist who always wins unfairly is fine.

Fiction isn't just supposed to be something where you insert as the protagonist and therefor want to see the protagonist being rewarded and antagonists punished.

I can understand why you'd take issue with their "comeuppance" being portrayed negatively though, might aswell not do a comeuppance at all in a status quo show.

>>90496753
I know this has happened, but what are some examples?

>>90496808
See: The Loud House and Gravity Falls

>>90545121
>Well yeah. I'm not seeing the issue here, an antagonist who always wins unfairly is fine.
An antagonist who always wins is just as shitty as a protagonist who always loses, and vice-versa.

Also, even if you're writing for an antagonistic character, the bare minimum requirement that they should be is entertaining.

Kevin for example is a good foil to the ed boys because he's strong enough, fast enough, and smart enough to deal with them whenever they pull off their scams. At the same time though, Kevin can also work with the ed boys every so often (like in that episode where they're "in the big city" and kevin is engaging in small talk while getting a tattoo or when him and Eddy are throwing a baseball against Ed's head when Ed got a pebble in his shoe) and there are even episodes where Kevin failsand the Ed boys succeeded.

With Sarah though, in every appearance that she's an antagonist, the ed boys will always lose because either she she kicked the shit outta them.

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>comic relief character is basically retarded and possibly even disfigured or ugly on top of that
>it's played for laughs and other characters make the character the butt of jokes

>very special episode with character with down syndrome or some other developmental disability guest character
>everyone is super respectful

>>90544603
This actually happened in the live-action Smurfs movie though, when they go to New York

>>90496420
>Female species have long hair
>Males are bald

>>90544430
>characters go to China/Japan/"Asia"
>"Oriental" music

>characters go to Britain
>fancy harpsichord

>characters go to Africa
>tribal chants and drums

>>90491186
>Hero finds the villain they have been chasing for the entire series, point gun at them and instead of fucking shooting them they just talk and then something happens and the villain gets away

JUST FUCKING SHOOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>90491186
>character overhears two people insult someone else
>immediately assumes its about them
>spends the whole episode acting bitchy and mean to the two characters until the climax of the episode

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>>90546186
>characters go to France
>accordions

>characters go to Australia
>didgeridoos

>>90546816
Related:

>character overhears two people talking about them out of context
>character gets all pissy and confronts them
>"Wait, wait, let us explain!"
>doesn't let them explain

>>90515942
What I really like is characters who make awful puns that they think are hot shit and everybody else hates. I'm not being sarcastic. I feel like a corny sense of humor makes a character honest.

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>>90525377
It's because she's perfect, anon.

>hero battles the villain early in story and gets completely destroyed
>comes back later at the end of the movie after training etc and defeats the villain

>>90548886
How fix then?

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>>90491186
>time travel episode
>characters visit egypt because screw you that's the norm
>blacks are present for some reason

Always makes me raise an eyebrow

>Its a mexican character
>favorite killing method is beheading
First fucking thing Laura does in Logan, Im so tired of mexican characters doing that jesus

>character meets an exact copy/clone/impostor/doppelganger of themselves, immediately start circling and mirroring each other.

>>90546186
>characters go to America
>get shot
Wait, that one is realistic

>>90551127
Not the anon that you're talking to but here's my idea for it.

>Hero barely wins fight against the villain
>Villain promises to come back to kick the shit outta them.
>Hero decides to train to learn how to defend himself more handily
Meanwhile, the villain trains to augment his natural talent
>Villain gets done training, forces hero to fight him for one reason or another.
>Hero is only half finished training but leaves anyways to save the day
>Fights the Villain in combat
>Hard Work vs. Natural Talent
>Ends in a draw
>Both sides acknowledge each other's strength
>Begrudging respect as they go their separate ways to train to beat one another later.

Yeah, I know it's shit but sue me.

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>>90555886
It's like you enjoy making plot holes

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>>90501754

>>90509164
THIS

>Character enters scene.
>"I know you're there. Show yourself!"