>Fox should give the X-Men rights back to Marv- >......Oh

So does Marvel get a cut from the cake, or did they just sell away one of their best properties like a bunch of retards?

>>90437286
Of course they do. Fox only owns the movie and distribution rights.

>>90437286

They sold their properties because they had no other option. A bunch of different studios bought anything they thought would be of some worth. Marvel lucked out hard that nobody bought their Avengers other than Hulk because they thought it was all garbage.

>>90437286
Marvel owns all the toy and merch rights. Fox isn't allowed to make merchandise of their movies so R-rated movies are in their best interest

>>90437286
>or did they just sell away one of their best properties like a bunch of retards?

Basically this, since it was the early 2000's and super hero movies weren't doing so hot.

>>90437374
Well they weren't wrong.

>>90437286
They were going bankrupt so they had to sell off everything.

>>90436900

Logan was like decent, at best.

Are we some weird abusive relationship where anything short of terrible is considered good?

>>90437475
>Logan was like decent, at best.
Well, yeah. It's the first capeshit since TDK or maybe Iron Man that's been decent.

>>90437475
This. GOTG2 is going to kick its ass.

>>90437527
THIS

It'll quip the SHIT out of Logan

>>90437525
Iron Man was fucking horrible.

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>>90437475
It's a kino

Perhaps it was too deep, to complicated for you

>>90437567
fuck off, retard

>>90436900
They really should.

And I don't just mean because they'd find a way to handle it better.

I mean, after a movie like Logan, where the fuck do you even go with the X-men franchise as currently constituted? You've basically tapped the whole well dry.
And the next First Class movie is just going to be a really poorly executed Phoenix Saga movie. No thanks.

>>90437702
no thanks

i'd rather xmen movies stop entirely than see wolverine turn into a quipping beyonce fan

>>90437702
No. The marvel movies are garbage and Fox is making good movies.

>>90437763

Fox is what 4/10 on good X-Men movies?

>>90437527
GotG 2 is going to feel like watching Nick Jr after seeing Logan

>>90437730
Honestly, I would too. I'm honestly kinda glad X Men were forced to make their own way as a movie franchise, because as the comics can attest to, the X-Universe tends to swallow anything it comes in contact with like an amoeba. No X-Men in the MCU has allowed it to flourish in ways it wouldn't have been able to otherwise. We'd NEVER get a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, for example.

It would be best if they just kinda went away for a while.

That said, seeing how they'd weave the X-Men into the existing MCU tapestry would be an interesting thing to watch by itself

>>90437803
The marvel is 1/3 in good Iron Man movies
1/2 in good captain america movies
1/2 in good avengers movies
0/2 in good thor movies
etc. etc.

>>90436900
People mostly want the Fantastic Four anyway

>>90437868
Sure.

But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.

Like, what good X-Men movies are we looking at? X2 and...First Class? Maybe? Thor 2 is at least as good as that.

>>90437864
seeing as how they're "weaving" spider man is hamfisted as fuck, I doubt xmen would be any less clumsy

>>90437943
>But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.
please fucking kill yourself

i'd watch logan 3 more times at least, i REGRET buying a ticket to thor 2

>>90437943
>But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.
no

>>90437971
Kinda unrelated, and this might sound like a stupid question, but is Logan even really an "X-men" movie?

I mean, I guess it ticks all of the logistical boxes; it's got all the right actors, it's made by Fox, and it is about characters who are, ostensibly, X-Men, but Logan goes so far out of its own way to distance itself from established X-Men movie canon that putting it along the likes of Days of Future Past doesn't feel right at all

>>90436900
Has there been any discussion at all about the Deadpool teaser?

>>90437943
X2, DoFP, and Logan were all better than Thor and Thor 2

>tfw Thor 2 was so shit I don't even remember its full title

>>90437943
>But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.

HA! you're such a cunt!

>>90437525
In terms of capekino, I would rank it like this:

1. TDK
2. Logan
3. Spider-Man 2
4. Iron Man 1
5. The Incredibles

>>90438186

really?
we're counting DoFP as better than First Class?

>>90438211
>we're counting DoFP as better than First Class?
most definitely

>>90438223
Not that guy, but I STRONGLY disagree.

I liked DoFP, but dumbest movie I have ever seen.

Fun as fuck, and I'll watch it again in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't say it was GOOD.
I mean, at least First Class had a story.

Gisnep would ruin the x-men so it's a good thing.

They still haven't made a single good movie with the Marvel rights they have

>>90438205
>Iron Man
>Not Spidey 2

>>90438271
tbqh i've forgotten most of First Class up until the cuban missle crisis scene

>>90436900
only shills were saying that

Fox just needs to give the F4 back to Disney.

or at least allow both to use the F4 as secondary characters in mutant and avengers movies.

>>90437911
they actually only want Doom back, not even f4

>>90438363
and you need to shut the fuck up

>>90438400
Doom, Galactus, and the Skrulls.

>>90438400
doom, skrulls, galactus, namor, the watcher

>>90438363
>Fox just needs to give the F4 back to Disney.
Fox needs to start investing in F4 and give it to better directors than fucking Trank

>>90438172
There's nothing to discuss exept that "it's happening eventually"

>wanting Disney's hands on Doom

Please no, it's one thing to ruin literally who villains but not Doom please

>>90437943

you are beyond delusional, seek help.

>>90438458
yeah, these losers too

>>90438463
namor is not owned by fox

>>90438440
why don't you go make another awful movie Trank.

>>90438464

Considering the cast from last f4 has moved onto marvelshit, they'll have to recast again anyway so they'll build it in tandem with their new universe that they're building post-deadpool.

>>90438501
why don't you suck my cock, since you like it so much?

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>>90437943
>But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.

>>90438464
no.

because we'll get another fucking origin movie.

we're never going to get family super science adventures f4. with a magic and power armor using Doom, ruler of latveria.

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>>90438555
Honestly, I think Fox is smart. Seeing how Logan and Deadpool turned out, it seems like they'd go against the grain.

I predict a possible Fantastic Four movie int he future that isn't an origin story.

Screencap this.

>>90438519
Fox can't cross over the FF with the Xmen due to contracts between the properties being done at different times and different people.

>>90438555
we got that in that unreleased movie, and you hated that. you don't know what you want

>>90438593

I meant in terms of time period, being that they would do a recast, not that they would blend the universe, I honestly don't think it would tonally fit with what they've been doing recently.

>>90438440
Fox should sell the FF back since they've had a quarter century to make a half-decent film with them, and execs' insistence that they can squeeze money out of them is retarded.

>>90438756
then go and tell them smartass

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>>90438297

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>>90437374
>>90437474
>Well they weren't wrong.

HAHAHAHA HAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>90438756

As they've proven with other properties, they can squeeze money out, they've just had bad luck recently with it.

The first one, despite what people around here say did go over well, but obviously that was in a different time being the early 00s.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fantasticfour.htm

they nearly tripled the budget, and while that isn't amazing for today's standards, it was decent back then.

>>90438783
i will if you don't stop typing like this

don't make me get out the belt

>>90438808
That means that Justin Bieber and Rihanna are good artists, because they sold a lot?

Avengers were always garbage, they sold only slightly better than the x-men even back in the 60s

>>90437868
>1/2 in good captain america movies
>implying First Avenger isn't good

Go fuck yourself. Or were you trying implying that Winter Soldier isn't good? If that's the case then still go fuck yourself.

>>90439129
take it and spank me
now

>>90438808

McDonalds confirmed for best restaurant in the world, Ratatouile BTFO

>>90437868
>1/2 in good captain america movies

Shouldn't it be 1/3? There's 3 Cap movies. Sure Captain America: Civil War was sort of Avengers 2.5 but it still counts as a Cap movie.

>>90439251
the former

TWS was fucking good, the first one just felt boring as shit

>>90439251

Plot twist

both were shit

>>90438808
>>90439236
>>90439269

Total BS, because Pixar has made $10.75+ billion, and that's not even adjusting for inflation since Pixar's first movie, Toy Story, was released in 1995.

By 2011, the original set of Potter movies had made $7.7+ billion or the same as THAT 'astonishing' MCU amount. By the time they add in the 5 Fantastic Beast films, they will have made more money with just 13 movies than the MCU - which is up to 14 if you don't count Hulk #1, which apparently Disney and the Marvel Drones don't want you to count, and MCU will have released 7 more movies (not counting Homecoming #1 and #2 since Sony will, at minimum, get 50% of the cash and is the distributor.

>>90439633
>Toy Story
>good
oh for fuck sake I'm going to slap your shit

>>90438205
If we're talking great capeshit films, then you have to have the Crow on there.

Fucking masterpiece.

>>90439633

They make up facts as they go along. Every marvel movie breaks some bullshit record, like GotG2 teaser trailer being the most viewed video evur and counting ESPN ad views to make the number

Disney hype machine is something beautiful to see working. Look how they turned around that Beauty and the Beast RT shitfest, with a 6.000000001 average rating or something like that so they get the golden tomatoe

>>90440000
faggot

>>90436900
god damn masterpiece. This may be the only comicbook movie to be better than The Crow.

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Watched it last night. It was by far the best cape movie I've watched in recent memory.

>>90441072
I was crying for a good portion of it. When Stewart was playing senile it was amazing.

>>90441110
I was holding back tears, while my gf was giggling the entire time. Goddammit.

>>90439236
>imply Rhianna is bad

>>90436900
With this being the last real Wolverine movie, what do you think the odds are of Fox working a deal to give Marvel the rights back?

>>90438555

I want to see a live action Doom that just goes full Bond villain. That's all he is, he's a supervillain version of a James Bond nemesis. Why is that so hard to do? Bond's been doing it for half a century!

>>90441072
>>90441110

Jackman and Stewart are just talented actors. If it was the only good thing Fox ever did, it was picking them both up early. I'm glad we finally got a movie that dropped ensemble thing and just let those two do their job.

>marvel
>tied to disney so they have to make all their movies family friendly and to sell toys and merchandise

>fox
>only mainstream r-rated superhero studio right now

no thanks, marvel/disney will only water it down

>>90441342
Multi Billion dollar franchise. You tweaking if you think they'll make it easy for Marvel.

>>90438138
Different universe, similar ties. The statue of liberty fiasco from the first movie is referenced. Logan can stand it's ground on its own without context, truly it can be a classic. Real cape Kino

>>90437567
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

>>90441448
Wolverine and Charles' relationship is pretty kawaii

>>90441448
Fox is amazingly lucky they got Jackman and Reynolds pushing their passion capeshit projects honestly.

Logan and Deadpool were movies Fox kept giving shit to and didn't want to make but in the end were their biggest successes.

>>90441449
Technically Marvel has netflix but they won' tie it into their movieverse out of fear of backlash from soccermoms who will say "our kids want to watch the devil man who appeared in this MCU movie. Marvel wants children to watch R-rated heroes" or whatever they can muster.

>>90442575
Well now they only have Reynolds.

They can replace Jackman with another R-rated success like maybe a Gambit spinoff or X23 and the New Mutants

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>>90438205
>No Superman

>>90441448
this.
The movie was good not because "muh x-men" or extinction or so other capeshit/x-men related shit. Was good because Jackman and Stewart got space to be good and not some "look how cool Storm is shooting lightning bolts" or "Jean has phoenix powers, fans are going to wank about it"

>>90442695
Also good, they decided not to put Deadpool in it and use such for marketing/advert purpose

>>90436900
Just saw it yesterday. Not bad. Good direction, some memorable scenes, a convincing Jackman.

Maybe the secret is, don't be too capey?

>>90442717
Nah, capey works if one makes it work. Logan worked because they went in and focused on the character, not because of the special powers or wars and all that. Just some outcasts trying to survive.

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>>90442717
The secret is make your own story instead of copying different stories and trying to give them twists in accordance with your shitty taste.

>>90442751
Bad day at the Marvel office?

>>90442810
What? Recent Marvel movies have been absolute garbage.

>>90437868

Marvel movies actually worth watching:
>Iron Man
>The Avengers
>Winter Soldier
>Civil War
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Ant-Man (maybe)

I haven't seen Dr. Strange yet. Everything else is just fill-in-the-blank dreck.

>>90443218
Antman's more fun than Dr. Strange. Latter was such a bore even with its visuals. Antman was also standard but at least the heist bit and Pym carried the movie.

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>>90443235

Ant-Man could have been so much better with Edgar Wright at the helm. It could have been a breath of fresh air, like Iron Man or Guardians of the Galaxy, but Marvel Studios is interested in churning out a product first and foremost.

It's sad, really, because Logan and Deadpool are finally breaking away from the cookie cutter, PG-13 comic book movie formula, and they are getting praise from it. The downside is that Logan is the end of the line for Wolverine and that the Deadpool sequels probably won't have anything to do with the X-Men universe as a whole.

>>90443218
>>The Avengers
>>Civil War
>>Guardians of the Galaxy
Curse your memes.

>>90436900

In fairness, I'd rather have an average but fun, cheesy, colorful X-men movie that's accurate to the comics than a critical darling that bares very little resemblance to the comics.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Logan. I enjoyed it on a different level. But I'm still waiting for that 'real' X-Men film.

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>>90443368
>Ant-Man could have been so much better with Edgar Wright at the helm.
Oh God, if you won't throw yourself into traffic at least shut up about Edgar Fucking Wright and his le quirky British manchild bullshit.

Goddamnit, the movie he chose to make INSTEAD of the Ant-Man movie was a wretched piece of shit. If Wright hadn't fucked around forever, we could have had Pym and Janet on the original Avengers roster, instead of Hawkguy and Bloody Ledger.

I know your kneejerk is to wank to anything anti-Marvel, but seriously, fuck off.

>>90443490
I wonder if an adaptation of The Boys would be possible.

>>90443368
>Ant-Man could have been so much better with Edgar Wright at the helm.

His version unambiguously sounded worse than the final movie

>>90438207
Actually the first list I don't hate.

>>90438207
I know the Dark Knight had a lot of plotholes and flaws but I loved it the year it came out a lot.

Also replace SM2 with SM1 for me

>>90441072
They found the girl with best angry shrieks for X-23.

>>90437286

They get about 5% and if Fox doesnt make a movie in certain amount of time the rights go back to marvel

Leasing live action x men rights was one of the best decision they could have made at the time

>Dismarvel are probably gonna come take these licenses away any day now, let's just skip all the fucking focus testing and marketing rewrites
Or
>Hey look, Dredd/Mad Max/John Wick have shown there's an audience for this stuff

HEAR THE TRUMPETS HEAR THE PIPERS

ONE HUNDRED MILLION ANGELS SINGING

MULTITUDES ARE MARCHING TO THAT BIG KETTLE DRUM

>>90439774
Wait, what?

>>90437868
There are three captain America movies, so are you saying one of them was half good

>>90436900
Greatest superhero movie of our time

North Dakota is THE most ignored state in the union so whenever our state gets mentioned on tv or the news, people's ears perk up and you can bet at least a dozen people are going to ask you if you heard "them mention us".
Every time they said North Dakota in the movie, I shit you not, my audience started murmuring. It was the equivalent of Ben Franklin entering a room in South Park.

Also >badlands 8 miles from Canada
Someone can't into geography.

>>90438207
I miss DoFP and GotG but I'm ok with this

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>>90443656

Best girl

I was so happy she had her foot claws because they made sure never to show them in the trailers

>>90436900
So why was the adamantium bullet able to kill the clone when two bullets to the head just gave Logan amnesia? The one from this movie even looked like it was a smaller caliber than the ones from Wolverine.

>>90436900
The movie is great, no doubt

But are we gonna pretend Fox isn't wasting tons of characters? Even ignoring the F4, the X movies introduce and waste tons of characters or repeat the same shit over and over. For 10 years Logan had to learn over and over to love and trust people, Magneto has lost his family 3 times in order to show him getting mad about it, 2 failed attempts at Angel, 3 failed attempts at Jubilee...

Not saying the MCU would do a perfect job, but it feels like people like OP are implying Fox is on the other hand, and i just disagree, despite many Xmen movies being great for vicarious reasons

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>that 10 seconds Laura is barefoot in the hotel rooms and you can see her super cute soles and toes

>>90442717
Actually I think that is the trick. Avengers was an ensemble, TDK was a crime thriller, Guardians and Antman were heist films, Logan is a western. Go watch Shane, they basically remade the movie with Xmen

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>>90447434
NO

>>90443490
The main reasons he left were the Peggy and Howard scenes and some other synergetic scenes. I think it's dumb to try to make a movie in an overarching universe, and not tie it in. Removing Peggy and Howard wouldn't make the film any better. Certain scenes still felt like Wright but a lot of it felt genetic too unfortunately.

>>90447472
TWS and CW were political thrillers

>>90436900
You're not gonna see the proper comic book outfit anyways on the MCU, you will get garbage Tacticool instead, so it's Lose Lose>>90437286

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>>90436900
I never want them to go back.
Mutants in Marvel are fucking stupid. Keep them separate.

At best maybe gimme an AvX crossover movie someday.

>>90447509
Are you gay?

>>90437475
Don't worry fellow Mousekeeter, Spider-Man: Homecoming will be the best movie of this year.

>>90447097
>he doesn't know about the 2019 Catastrophe

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>>90447472
>I'm so ashamed of liking capes that I refuse to call them superhero movies

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>>90437474
>Kirby
>Thomas
>Englehart
>Simonson
>DeMatties
>Gruenwald
Yeah, go fuck yourself.

Limit it to Iron Man and you may have a case.

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>>90447472
>Guardians
>heist film

>>90447559
>TWS and CW were political thrillers
pfftHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>90447310
The true Wolverine is a Canucklehead. You can't make that in a lab

>>90447753
woah, you mutaphobe. You can't just advocate for segregation.

>>90438207
Begins was better then The Dark Knight, and I'll never understand why people like it so much. Cap 2 was better then a lot of those. Incredibles is too good for that list. Also, Defendor.

>>90447310
Different powder loads?

>>90447434
Screenshot of this scene when?

Now if only they could make good canon films.

>>90448416
>Begins was better then The Dark Knight
Oh boy,
>"I don't have to save you"
Begins is garbage. Is it so much to ask for a Batman movie that doesn't end with Batman murdering some one?

>>90436900
I left at the credits, was there a scene after?

I didn't think so but all the drones were still sitting.

>>90437943
>the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie

This fucking guy.

>>90447784
Are you a fucking pedo?

>>90436900
>suicidal father figure has to take care of a child
this fucked me up too much
I went in for the action, I didn't ask for these feels

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>walk out of cinema after watching Logan with 2 friends
>8 or even 9/10, not just good capehitt, but a good movie generally, and a good way to retire the character before the inevitable reboot/recast
>turn to friends “so what did you guys think”
>ugh, so boring
>his death sucked
>wtf was that ending at all
>blood and violence were the only good things
>he wasn't like Wolverine at all
>suicide skwad was so much better
>you know what wolverine movie was good tho? The first one
>yeah that one rocked
>tfw can't ditch them because I'm not a retard to ditch friends over movie opinions, but at that moment I really wish I was
Why couldn't they hide Laura's very noticeable scar on her forehead? She's supposed to heal even better than Logan in his prime. Kept bugging me every time there was a close-up of her.

>>90437943
>But even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie.
hahahahahaha

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>>90448991
>Are you a fucking pedo?

>>90436900
I said it once, and I'll say it again, as much as X-Men movies might suck, it's way better to have them in their own unique universe instead of being part of the Avengers.

It doesn't make much sense to have a world that fears the X-Men to such big levels, yet at the same time have heroes such like Captain America or Thor so respected and loved.

>>90449150
Sounds like both you and your friends are autistic high school drop out wage slaves.

>>90449319
You sound upset.

>>90449150
I have the same problems. Sadly, most people are normies and like garbage movies.

>>90449150
I unironically thought Origins was one of the best superhero movies at the time.

>>90449346
Not at all. Just based off your opinions and things that you nitpicked that is the demo Id put you guys in.

Am I wrong?

A person's movie and tv taste say a lot about them.

>>90448654
He didn't murder him.

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>>90449384
>calls anon an autistic high school drop out wage slave
Yeah, you're completely relaxed.

>>90449457
That was just an observation based off his taste. People fall into demographics mate.

>>90449478
Heh, sure.

>>90449150
>suicide skwad was so much better
you need new friends

>>90449520
Sorry I got you spot on.

>>90449150
I know the feeling. Two of my friends loved batman vs superman simply because batman killed people and beat up superman. They also loved suicide squad because "harley was hot".

>>90447280

lovd the bit where xavier compared her to a lioness.


also watching little kid slaughtering adults left and right was oddly satisfying.

>>90449346
So basically he's pretty much spot on? lol

>>90449150
>suicide skwad was so much better
>tfw can't ditch them because I'm not a retard to ditch friends over movie opinions, but at that moment I really wish I was
At that point it's not just opinions. Your friends have issues you can't fix man.

>>90449720
>>90449659
>samefagging
>>90449746
>>90449682
>triggered
You need a life.

about to go see this
tell me /co/ is there a post meme scene or not?

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>>90449780
nah i just thought it was funny

>>90449780
>>triggered
.....the fuck? Has it really gotten to the point where we just use any buzzword that comes to mind without realizing what it even fucking means?

>>90449838
Gimp.
>>90449840
Mad.

>>90449853
>Mad.
...well good to see I was right then I guess.

>>90449835
I didn't wait for one... I don't think Fox does them.

>>90449872
That you're triggered, yeah.

>>90437527
omg i love baby groot LOL

>>90449887
Over what.

>>90449853
lol
what is your occupation and level of education

>>90441072
Damn, that's a nice poster.

>>90449883
of course they've done them. why would you even bother responding if you don't know a fucking thing. you don't even know where your dick is

>>90449853
Kek go away fag, stop being so upset you are worthless and that anon called you out on it

>>90436900
Fox should give the x-men rights back to marvel.

If Fox wants to make Last of Us, they should buy those rights.

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>>90449919
It's in your mouth. BOOOOYAH.

>>90449913
>level of education
Asks the anon who doesn't use caps or punctuation.

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>>90449992
*chomps*

When will Fox bite the bullet and finally start bringing Scott into the fold.
Fuck Jen's Mistique, no one likes her and the character was never meant to be leading things.
GIVE US SCOTT

>>90450005
I'm doing that on purpose so you can differentiate us.
But seriously, this is only funny because of how offended you are by that guy's comment. There's like a 90% chance you're a highschool dropout working at Walmart.

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>>90437943

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>>90450085
>There's like a 90% chance you're a highschool dropout working at Walmart.
Says the totally not mad anon who posts in a 4chan board.

>>90450085
>I'm doing that on purpose
Being retarded?

>>90450135
You've clearly never been to /biz/

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>>90449835

No. No after credits, which surprised everyone in my theater.

>>90449711

I was very satisfied with how they portrayed her, and I was reminded of shit like pic related at times.

>>90450202
>No after credits
The owner of my local movie theater told me so once the credits rolled on and they opened the doors. Personally I'm glad.

>>90450202
...and then she spoke.

YADAYADAYADA!

>>90449150
>having pleb friends

>>90450202
Kek I thought it was fucking hysterical all the drones that stayed in their seats waiting on one. The movie ended pretty definitively, an after the credits scene would have been in extremely poor taste.

>>90450249
Is that supposed to mean her speaking was bad?

>>90450297
I was expecting a hint of where they were going or something, but not having one works well, too.

>>90450358
What do you mean "where they were going?"

I think you missed a point of the movie. It's the constant mutant struggle. They will run, and they will be chased and they will struggle, and some will die, but mutantkind lives on. It's better not giving them an exact destination.

>>90450410

I didn't miss the point of the movie. In fact, I said the ending worked well. The shot over his grave the X panning down with the kids trucking up north was a great way to finish the scene.

However, I expected something after, that's all, but I'm not disappointed that it wasn't where.

>>90450249
I liked when she started talking...

>>90450513
>>90450358

it was kind of funny. not bad. just funny.

>>90450828
As far as I could tell the scene was suppose to be humorous.

>>90437475
Please tell me you mean "decent" as in an absolute, and not as "I prefer the Avengers movies".

So this Alkali corp was just Weapon X, right?

I'm going to admit I almost cried a few times. Fuck, I went in expecting yet another Sniktbub movie, and I got the first actual Wolverine movie.

>>90450937
This especially at the end.

>>90436900
it could be the only marvel movie to win an oscar and you'd have people who want FOX to give the rights back because "muh crossovers"

>>90437416
funny part is deadpool or logan wouldn't have been as good if they were done by marvel because they would've aimed for a PG-13

>>90437527
>another wild romp with a barely coherent plot which is actually nothing but constant setups for witty one liners and cliché character conflicts

>>90441072
>Caliban doesn't even get to appear in the poster
Man I felt bad for him

>>90436900
I want to bury my face in Laura's spicy cunny!

>>90451080
Man even Stephen Merchant was great. Everything in this movie was awesome

>>90437527
GOTG 2 will just continue being a better starwars movie than the actual starwars movies coming out

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The second best cape film.

>>90450828

I think it was supposed to be funny, though. She was never particularly talkative, especially in her early issues. I just love how she actually felt like X-23 for the most part.

>>90451080

poor cinnamon roll.

>>90450962
Disney/Marvel want family friendly movies with flashy but dumb action scenes, constant one-liners, slapstick humor and a generally light hearted tone. You'll never, ever get something as raunchy as Deadpool from them, or something as serious as Logan either. Dr Strange is as serious as they'll get, and that movie still had several "LOL THIS IS SO WACKY" moments.

And apparently, don't expect DC to pick up the slack, they've gone full retard.

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>>90451133
>>90437527

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>>90447559

>>90447559
And Wolverine: Origins was a tragedy.

>>90451136
Exactly what I was thinking in the theater

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>>90451182
> liking ep7
> liking rogue one

>>90451265
>or the MCU

Well, last year, Deadpool proved that a superhero movie doesn't have to be family friendly. Now, Logan proved they don't have to be wacky and silly.

Maybe we can finally start getting some more serious stories.

>>90451296
so what exactly brought up the "le GOTG is bad" meme?

is it contrarians being contrarians or is there actual substance behind it?

>>90451164
Thank fucking Christ.

>>90451331
To be fair Xmen 1 proved this already. Logan definitely did it a lot better though but I believe that is because for the first time a movie portrayed how fucking shitty it is to be a mutant.

From the kids being bred from birth as weapons and treated like animals, to Logan's DNA being used to create a clone that ultimately killed him, to Xavier's own powers going out of control, to the kids escaping but us knowing they'll never be able to stop running simply because of what they are, the movie really captured the core ideals of the Xmen. [\spoiler]

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>>90451373
Contrarians, yes.
Either that, or DCEU (aka /tv/ shitposters) or company war faggots (aka /v/ shitposters) or possibly the worst of the worst, DnA fanboys that can't let go.

>>90451402
For what, DC going full retard? Not exactly worth celebrating...

>>90451429
ah that makes sense

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>>90451331
>last year, Deadpool proved that a superhero movie doesn't have to be family friendly.
>what is Blade
>or Crow
>or Kingsman
>or Sin City
>or Watchmen
>or V for Vendetta
>or 300
>or Dredd
>or From Hell
How about you leave and never return, friend?

>another thread devolves into company wars instead of discussing the film
now I remember why I stopped visiting /co/

>>90451444
>Introducing marvels first asian female superhero....silk!

>>90451444
Logan is the only one that IMHO challenged The Crow as the best comic book movie ever

>>90451422
It's also why I said it's the first actual Wolverine movie instead of a Sniktbub movie. That is who Wolverine is. This line in particular:

>Bad shit happens to people I care about.

Is what defines the character, and is far too often overlooked by writers. Most writers see him being an angry asshole with claws who can take a beating and think "Aw yeah, action hero!". No. Fuck no.

>>90451472
It's Disneyfags. They can't help but bring up their shitty movies in every thread regardless of if anyone ask about them.

>>90451444
Well over half of those aren't superhero movies...

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>>90451517
Nigga, the Op was clearly mentioning Disney not having the rights for X-Men, and then you guys take easily the fucking bait.

You are the retard if you bite the damn bait and not actually discuss the damn movie.

>>90437475

I can't wait for the sequel

>>90451538
fuck off. comic books aren't superheroes

>>90451373
>>90451429
>>90451439
More like that LE EBIN DANCE OFF X-DDD

>>90451561
Ive been discussing the movie the whole thread fagelo.

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>black kid had electricity power

>>90451627
Mad bait.


You're a stinky poopie head.

>>90451642
>your head
>the clones

It wasn't electrical powers. He was a clone of Storm. Just like we had the Iceman clone, the Jean clones, the Pyro clone, the Rictor clone, etc etc.

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>90451627
And then you prove me right.

You prove me so fucking right that you won't get a (you) because you're that damn dumb.
Also, fucking imbecile, the Dance off was clearly a distraction, as fucking Star-Lord has always had a back-up plan in case things don't go his way, but you're so damn fucking dumb that you weren't able to catch that part.

Fucking stupid anon.

>>90451686
>He was a clone of Storm
They weren't clones, they were children via artificial insemenation, so unless Storm developed a secondary mutatuion which allows her to change sex or at the very least grow a dick, you are wrong.

>>90451713
>I'm so mad that I cannot even quote

>>90451727
Kek I dont even know what to say to you. That is the definition of a clone and Laura was female and Wolverine is not.

Did you even think before you typed that?

>>90451727
>clones have to be the same sex
Anon I don't think you have a very strong grasp on genetics.

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>>90451727
The kids had DNA of all the most important/powerful mutants, thus they are clones. Learn to genetics, buddy

>90451753
You're only making me get at this point (you)s, ya know? That is how upset you are over a movie, fella.

>>90451829
>clones have to be the same sex
Where did I even say that?
>>90451800
X-24 - grown just from Wolverine's dna - clone, dna 100% wolverine
X-23 - literally Wolverine's cum dumped into some mexican chick, dna - 50% wolverine, 50 % random spic - offspring.
I don't understand why you have such problems with elementary undestanding.

>>90451613
I know, which is why I specifically said "superhero movies", not "comic book movies".

>>90451727
>>90451829
>>90451889
I'm not that guy, but yeah clones have to be the same gender lol

Gender is dictated by genes. If you don't have all the same genes you are not a clone.
It's why identical twins are always the same gender.

Those kids were more like children of the mutants than clones

>>90451727
Oh great, now /d/ is going to be all over this place.

>>90451954
You are arguing semantics. That was Storm's "son" then.

>>90451482

If only.

>>90451889
>That is how upset you are over a movie, fella.
Says the anon who gets buttblasted when someone reminds him how LELSORANDUMB GotG is.

>>90451976
>It's why identical twins are always the same gender.
That's just wrong. Identical twins can be of different sexes.

>>90452017
>That was Storm's "son" then.
What I'm arguing is that for them to create Storm's clone/son, the way they created them, they needed Storm's cum.
And there's very little reason to believe that chubby niglet is even related to storm, not everything is interconnected, and he never showed anything beyond shooting electricity.

>>90452046

That's false. Twins from the same egg, ie identical twins, are always the same sex, but twins from different eggs can be different because they have different genres.

>>90436900

Is Fox's contract like forever or does it say "for 50 years" or something like that?

>>90452096
I went to school with a brother and a sister who looked identical.

>>90452096
>>90452131
>https://www.verywell.com/boy-girl-identical-twins-2447124
>Every rule has exceptions, of course. In this case, they are extremely rare exceptions, and it's not likely that the average person would ever encounter twins in this situation. Note that there have been a few reported cases of a genetic mutation in monozygotic male twins. For some reason, after the zygote splits, one twin loses a Y chromosome and develops as a female. The female twin would be afflicted with Turner Syndrome, characterized by short stature and lack of ovarian development. It's extremely rare; less than ten cases have been confirmed. Given the odds, it's safe to assume that 99.9% of all boy/girl twins are fraternal
tldr it's very rare, but not impossible.

>>90451373
I don't think GotG, or Avengers, or anything in the MCU is particularly bad. I just feel like they're shallow, for lack of a better word. You watch those movies to see the pretty colors and the thrilling actions scenes and to hear the witty quips. The plot however tends to be half-assed, and the characters feel superficial.

Let's compare GotG to Logan, even though I feel they shouldn't be compared, like you don't compare Friday the 13th to The Thing. If I want a movie to watch with half a dozen people, or while on a long trip, I'll watch GotG. If I want to sit down on a quiet evening to watch a good movie, maybe with one or two friends, I'll watch Logan.

Another comparison: If Logan were a steak, GotG would be a hamburger. Not that there's anything wrong with hamburgers (in fact, I love them), but it's a completely different experience from a steak.

So, it's not that I don't like GotG, far from it. I loved that movie. But it doesn't hit the same buttons as a movie like Logan does.

>>90452089
No they didn't. Jesus dude they didn't have Logan's semen on file just his DNA. Its the same premise of how they have been attempting to clone extinct animals. You have to incubate the DNA but you don't require the semen. You can just graft the DNA onto a different embryo. Look up designer babies.

>>90451642
kid was fat as fuck but he could run like a motherfucker

>>90436900
This movie was superb but they really should give the rights back. Otherwise Fox will be keep doing movies with the X-Men equivalent of basically having Harley Quinn training Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern.

>>90438297
>Depression makes his powers not work
>It's like erectile dysfunction! GET IT?!

>>90452224
No. Fuck no. All the Xmen movies have been on par or better than the McU films.

Fox just needs to go full superhero like with Deadpool. Costumes and all. When they introduce the new Wolverine he needs to suit up.

>>90452089
I don't think you understand how Laura was created. X-23 actually came from a X-men cartoon, X-men Evolution. And despite being a superhero cartoon for teenagers, the reasoning behind her creation was fairly clever.

Basically, they tried to clone Wolverine to make their own weapon, several times. 22 times. It failed each time because in the DNA they had, the Y chromosome was fucked. Then, they had an idea:

Just remove the Y chromosome and replace it with a copy of the X chromosome. Basically, a clone of Wolverine, except with a second copy of his X chromosome where his Y chromosome should be. And X-23 AKA Laura was born.

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>>90436900

So this is Last of Us: Superhero edition?

>>90452262
>X3
>Wolverine: Origins
>good

Look, when I called Wolverine: Origins a tragedy earlier, I wasn't just being sarcastic. I was also saying it was a tragedy that that movie was made.

>>90452290
That's not how they did it in the movie though. Movie Laura is a literal daughter, not a modified clone.

>>90452290
I know all that, but it's not the case with the movie. Movie Laura and the other kids are much closer to children than perfect clones.

>>90452331
That is 2 movies out of 9. Still a much better track record than the McU.

>>90452332
It's never really explained. They just say they have genetic material. Where the hell did they get Howlett's jizz? And if the other kids really are the kids of the X-men, how the fuck did they get eggs out of Storm and Jean?

>>90452262
If they give X-Men the full reboot/Deadpool treatment, then yeah, keep the rights at Fox.

If they continue with the Apocalypse storyline, fuck them. They can't even get the hierarchy of the characters right.

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>Laura crying and calling Logan daddy while he's telling her to not become what they wanted her to be

That got me.

>>90452366
Well, there's another X-men movie being filmed in Montreal, and with Wolverine dead, it's probably going to be more of the First Class timeline.

>>90452366
Apocalypse ended perfectly fine for them to set up it to be like the comics.

JLaw is not coming back, just introduce Logan and put them all in costumes, make Sinister the bad guy and we are good to go.

>>90451976
No. do basic wikipedia research before you post

>>90452412
And don't get me wrong, they're good movie, but only if you ignore how much they shit on the comics. This time I would really like to see a full blown X-Men movie and not just a Magneto/Xavier/Wolverine movie with fucked up situations like the one >>90452224 I mentioned here.

>>90452453
>to be like the comics
>Mystique training Cyclops and Jean

I bet you people would defend a movie where Android 18 trains Goku and Piccolo.

>>90452500
I just said Jlaw isn't coming back. Stop reading half a post.

Can someone explain how the timeline makes any sense? Here's how it's supposed to go:

>Wolverine: Origins
>X-men: First Class
>X-men: Days of Future Past (past portion)
>X-men: Apocalypse
>X-men
>X2
>X3
>The Wolverine
>X-men: Days of future past (future portion)
>Logan

So, at the end of The Wolverine, Logan is just leaving with that chick to do, whatever. In the future portion of Days of Future Past, chick is gone, Logan has somehow reunited with the X-men and Xavier has been recovered. Then, history is changed, and at the end of Days of Future Past, the timeline is supposedly changed in a way that the events of X2 and X3 are averted, and everyone is alive and happy at the mansion.

Then, Logan comes around, and suddenly everyone but Logan and Xavier are dead. I feel like I'm missing something here.

>>90452046
>>90452131
>>90452167
>>90452467
"Monozygotic twins are genetically nearly identical and they are always the same sex unless there has been a mutation during development."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin#Monozygotic_.28identical.29_twins

>>90452525
>Can someone explain how the timeline makes any sense?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YGHDTIUt0s

>>90452167
1/1000 people are not gender bianary. I'm not SJW talking, these are just the scientific facts. a lot of the time it doesn't show up visually or sexually, but a lot of times is chemical. You may argue that these are genetic freaks, but you would be arguing that twins are freaks cause they show up just as much.

gender is complicated.

>>90452185
>The plot however tends to be half-assed, and the characters feel superficial.
That's what makes a movie bad.

>>90452548
>cutting the sound every time the guy swears

Holy shit, why?

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>>90452383
>that moment while he's lying there when he finally lets his walls down and you knew he'd accepted her as his daughter and loved her
>"So this is what it feels like"

told myself I wasn't gonna cry
cried anyway

>>90452688
Nah, Robocop would be a bad movie then, as an example. Movies can be entertaining without having a good plot or good characters. They certainly can't be profound, but they can certainly be entertaining.

>>90452788
Entertaining does not equal good.

I think Clash of the Titans is entertaining. I would not call it a good movie.

>>90452383
>>90452756
pussies

>>90436900
> meanwhile marvel kills off xmen comics for inhumans because wasting time and resources on good xmen comics thatll never be movies for them is a fucking retarded idea

>>90451429
>DnA fanboys that can't let go.

being fair DnA was probably one of if not the last good things to happen to GOTG before the movies so of course that's going to be the common comparison also doesn't help that they ended up on the wrong side of movie synergy in the comics when the movie happened

but ultimately at the end of the day they're basically metroid fanboys who get triggered at any signs of feminine traits from samus because they can't get over other M

>>90452185
logan is nice change of pace but it shouldn't be a gold standard on how superhero movie should be since it would only really work with a handful of characters.

the avengers movies would not really work with logan's tone the same way superman doesn't really work with TDK's tone (and i say this as one of the 10 people who liked MoS)

>>90452899
>logan is nice change of pace but it shouldn't be a gold standard on how superhero movie should be since it would only really work with a handful of characters.

Of course, but it's good that we finally get something else than "flashy, quirky action flick" superhero movies. It's just a shame that they couldn't manage it before the movie where Logan dies.

>>90452880
The fact that this is literally their logic makes me so mad.

>>90452899
variety is great. That's why Deadpool and Logan are great, cause they both tell very different types of superhero stories. Like how Batman Begins and Dr Strange are totally different...uh..oops

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>>90452525
Original Timeline
>Origins from beginning to 60s
>First Class
>the rest of Origins
>X1
>X2
>X3
>Wolverine
>DofP bad future

New Timeline
>Origins from beginning to 60s
>First Class
>Origins Vietnam, Team X
>DofP past
>Apocalypse
>DofP good future

Alternate Timeline with elements from both original and new
>All movies in broad strokes
>Logan

the only problem with Logan is that studio execs aren't gonna get that this isn't the blueprint for making successful capeshit movies.

They're gonna try to replicate this exact setup with some other property and it's gonna suck.

>>90453018
But at least we got Logan.

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>>90437943
I have to assume this is bait because otherwise I'm genuinely concerned that retards are breeding.

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>>90453018
inb4 Bruce

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>>90437943
>Thor movie is at least as good
>Thor movie
>good

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>>90438207
I'd switch TDK with Logan and then keep the exact same list.

is imax worth it? deciding on a showtime.

>>90452947
>but it's good that we finally get something else than "flashy, quirky action flick" superhero movies.

technically we have that alternative with DC but nobody likes them because they aren't the campy action movies that marvel does.

>>90452880
>meanwhile marvel kills off xmen comics for inhumans because wasting time and resources on good xmen comics thatll never be movies for them is a fucking retarded idea

They're literally reversing that terrible decision right now.

The Inhumans movie got demoted to an ABC tv series (lol) and the X-Men comics line is about to be fully relaunched and the Inhumans de-prioritized because nobody cared about them.

>>90453155
I went before noon and it was $6 and it's 2D IMAX. Highly recommend it.

>>90438207
Switch Iron Man with The Incredibles and it will be perfect.

>>90441110
The relationship between Logan and X was too much for me. It reminded me of my mom carrying for her aunt who had dementia. I was getting misty eyed at the beginning when Profesor X was senile.

>>90453179
The reason nobody likes them is because they're shit. Other than the DK series, all recent DC movies have been idiotic snorefests.

>>90452548
>that remark about the cage fighting still being a thing in post-DoFP timeline

I thought it was pretty clear at the end of DoFP that Logan still remembered things from the original timeline, so he'd have memories of the cage fighting. It stands to reason that Charles could at least pick those memories up again from Logan's mind too.

>>90453217
The thing how they just randomly say hurtful/spiteful things or get accusational is uncomfortably close to home.

You know it's the disease speaking but it's tough to go through. As are the bursts of clarity because as much as it makes you happy to see you know it won't last.

>>90452969
its sound money making logic
>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=wolverine2017.htm

>Domestic: $85,300,000 35.9%
>+ Foreign: $152,500,000 64.1%
>= Worldwide: $237,800,000

and thats just an estimate since Sunday aint over. How many fucking logan series would it take to make that much in 5 days? You would have to be retarded to keep spitting out coal that is the key ingredient for someone else to turn into diamonds

The gaps left in the timeline are for future movies.

>>90438600
Corman FF is kino

>>90453268
I thought they were separate.

>Origins
>Xmen
>X2
>X3
>Logan

>First Class
>DofP
>The Wolverine
>Deadpool

Especially with the whole claws getting broken in The Wolverine.

>>90453280
But they are a comics company, they won't see money from those movies, maybe some drops if their particular story gets turned into one. It's just so stupid to destroy what your company created for years because of movie rights.

>>90453268
Personally, I always thought that in the DoFP timeline, the events of X1 still happen.

>>90453329
No, they're not separate because Logan bridges both timelines and still remembers the old one.

Also Magneto fixed his claws in the years between those movies.

>>90453270
I sure hope people weren't going to this movie expecting a movies like AoU. cause even the humor was fucking dark and depressing and reminded me of dealing with family that has died.

>>90453349
>But they are a comics company
NOT ANYMORE
Marvel sees plenty of money from marvel movies.

>>90453270
Yeah, I work as an orderly and Stewart nailed the "early stages Alzheimer's" bit perfectly.

>>90453353
Did Logan mention anything from the First Class timeline at all?

I'm keeping them separate in my headcanon. Especially because things like shitty Deadpool in Origins make no sense then with new Deadpool.

>>90452314
but good

>>90453421
I just pretend they're two different Wades who somehow both got named Deadpool.

>>90453225
Bot pls

>>90443218
>>Winter Soldier

I don't even remember if I watched the whole thing. I thought it was boring.

>>90452364

They strongly hinted at it when the Doctor said to save flesh tissue from Caliban's corpse because he has useful powers

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>>90437943
>even the worst Thor movie is at least as good as the best X-Men movie

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>>90453225
>Other than the DK series

that's cute

So, is fox just going to scrap the current timeline in a reboot?

All new mutatns would have to be synthetic, which isn't fun. Mr. Sinister can't really carry a movie either.

the girl kinda reminds me of Evan Peters, especially the eyes/eyebrows/nose
anyone else?
I'm not implying she's related to quicksilver, just saying they kinda look alike

>>90452364
you dont need eggs to create sperm. they found a way to creat artificial sperm years ago

>>90453456
Really? Name me a recent DC movie which wasn't idiotic. Other than the DK trilogy, Man of Steel is the only one I enjoyed. Batman VS Superman was idiotic. Green Lantern was idiotic. Superman Returns was idiotic. Can't count Suicide Squad however, haven't seen that one.

Not counting movies like V for Vendetta or Watchmen either since those are standalone stories.

>>90453525
>Mr. Sinister can't carry a movie

Get out

>>90452364
You can actually use other cells and turn them into sperm cells. Plus it's the future so the science is even more advanced.

>>90453497
Yeah, but that's a clone, which means it wasn't jizz or eggs.

>>90436900
They still should give the rights back to Marvel

>>90453575
>Can't count Suicide Squad however, haven't seen that one.

it won an Oscar for best movie. you should see it