False /co/ related facts

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>>90424706
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

>>90424706
>Doug TenNapel is a horrible person!!!

>>90424706
>Stan Lee deserves as much credit as Kirby, Ditko, Everett etc...

Really grinds my gears.

>>90424706
>Disney didn't hate the Jews

Yes goy all a misunderstanding

>>90424706
>Hated unions and communists
Based

>>90424911
>implying stan lee didn't create the lion's share of everything

>>90424904
no!
said the man the man in Washington, it belongs to the poor
no!
said the man in the Vatican, it belongs to God
no!
said the main in Moscow, it belongs to everyone

i REJECTED those answers, instead i chose something different, i chose the IMPOSSIBLE, i chose DISNEY WORLD!

>>90424940
He was no more anti-Semitic than everyone else at the time.

>>90425109
Bioshock is a fun game.

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if he's not racist, how do you explain this with his own copyright on it?
check mate.

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>>90425476
Walt Disney was a straight up G

>>90425476
Walt Disney has always been friends to the Basketball American community

Look at Song of the South

>>90424706
>he's not anti-semitic
>he's got a couple of jewish employees

Sounds legit

>>90424706
>>Walt Disney didn't hate jews

But he didn't.
I think I even read something saying that he wouldn't mind if Jewish people took over the company.

He hated socialists?
I don't even care if he hated jews, he's already cool.

>>90424911

Normies don't know who those people are.

Normie level: All Lee!
Reactionary level: All the artists!
The truth: Collaboration drove the silver age of Marvel to incredible heights.

>He hated Unions though
>and Communist
He was born in the 1900's and lived through both Red Scares which would spread paranoia around the very basics of socialism in American society.

Add that plus he grew up to be an entrepreneur and would later on create one of the largest corporations on the whole planet, you can understand the prejudice.

>>90424943
>Hated unions

Can't see why anyone would hate unions unless they are rich and trying to exploit workers, like Disney the evil bag of shit. If you make less than half a million a year and hate unions you are straight up fucking retarded.

>>90427011
This is where it starts.

Then somebody goes off on how unions exploit workers.

>>90426905
Everyone can understand the prejudice against commies.
They are one of the worst cancers of humanity.
No one will judge Walt for that.

>>90427011
While I can understand what you're getting at you also got to understand some context of the time period he lived. America was until the point he was basically born a laissez faire government, until the Progressive Movement help shape way the rights of workers and more government control in companies. It was something we take for granted but it was a new thing the government decided to try out since the gap between the rich and the poor was so huge and monopolies started taking over government influences

Then the Bolshevik Revolution happened. People heard about the war and violence and it rebrought back some fears people had about socialism. Like America's new more socialist esc. policies, communism was a brand new economic and social theory that the Ruskee's was testing about. Because of this many unions and socialist actually decided to convert to full on communism as they believed it the best form of government on paper.

What ultimately set of the paranoia against socialism and communism was string of terrorist attacks from anarchists and communists against politicians. After that unions, communists and any form of socialist viewpoint had the bad reputation of being completely anti-American and terroristic.

>>90425530
Walt Disney doing drive-bys with people dressed as Mickey and Donald when?

>>90424911
Lee deserves credit, though. Whether /co/ likes it or not, he did have some great ideas and did make pathways for talented guys like Ditko, Kirby, and Romita to utilize.

I think unions and antitrust laws serve a legitimate purpose. Some people think that completely unrestrained capitalism with no government regulation will simply work itself out to the benefit of everyone because there's no innate benefit in fucking someone over, but I think that's wishful thinking. Much as communism is, in practice.

There has to be some fucking regulation. I'd rather not get to the point where CEO Bossman is hiring Pinkertons to rough up workers because they're tired of getting paid in company coupons.

>>90427011
Hating the idea of a union is stupid. But there are some shitty unions out there.

>>90428184
Like teachers unions.

>>90425396
Too bad infinite tried to be contrevertial and 2DEEP4U

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>>90428387
I liked Infinite. It was entertaining, and I followed the story easily enough.

I can see why it would trigger those with strong /pol/ sentiment. The Vox Populi weren't all they were cracked up to be, which I thought was an interesting twist. And I also why they'd love Rapture and much of the sentiment in Bioshock.

>>90424706
I was just about to make a thread about this because some idiots are talking about it in some Star vs thread.


The man didn't hate jews,

>>90424940
Everyone's hated the Jews at some point

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>>90425396

The first one only.

Where did "Walt Disney is anti-semitic" even come from? I don't remember ever reading anything that suggested it, just him firing suspected communists during the Red Scare. I don't remember anything in any of his works that suggested it either. What started this rumor? Did people misunderstand Der Fuhrer's Face?

>>90428901
Fuck, that image reminded me of the Dinseyland area in Kingdom of Loathing where you could fight a preserved "Wart Dinsey" brain in a bioshock-esque suit.

God I never knew a game about clicking boxes and looking at stick figures could make me feel nostalgia like this...

>>90428040
Pretty much this people tend to exploit the fuck out of any situation they're in especially unregulated capitilism regulation exist for a reason

>>90425476
this makes me crack up every time

>>90428901
Bioshock 2 had a lot going for it despite some major flaws. It probably has the best morality system of all the games and frankly better then many others, gameplay was objectively better as switching back and forth from Plasmids and your weapon felt clucnky and it had a lot of great characters. Communistic Lamb was a great contrast to Ryan's Laizze Faire Capitalism and Sinclair was an absolute bro.

I'd at the very least say it's a hell of a lot better then Infinite.

>>90428040
>>90429000

You are correct, which is why exploitation of workers is wrong and illegal. However once you protect the rights of workers through the federal government, unions cease to be important. In the modern 21st century, workers unions have exploded into bureaucracies with no interest but to pay their own union dues and support an unworking, unhelpful, useless upperclass of 'managers' and 'party leaders', as with all socialist bullshit pushed by the government.

This is, however, off topic to the thread. So stop talking about it >>>/pol/

>>90428773
My problem was that it had a ton of ideas that were either half-assed or unfinished. Infinite with another year of development and less focus on arena shooting could have been 10/10

>Batman created by Bob Kane

>>90424911
LEE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING HE STOLE IT ALL is the contrarian moron answer.

Lee DOES deserve as much credit as those artists because the Silver Age Marvel creations were collaborations of which Lee was a vital part.

I get that you're reacting against Lee's fame and normies worshipping him, but he fully deserves equal credit.

>>90429193
Is Bob Kane the greatest hack of all time?

>>90424706
Here's a really interesting discussion on AskHistorians (yes I know REEEE reddit) on this topic that's pretty informative:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5ugq8l/walt_disney_is_commonly_accused_of_being_racist/

The real answer seems to be that Disney himself was not any more personally anti-Semitic than society in general at the time, but that he also enthusiastically embraced anti-Semites and anti-Semitic policies of others and did things like inviting infamous Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to tour his studios when she came to the US which was controversial even at the time.

They also discuss two early formative instances in Disney's career that made him into a ruthless businessman and vehemently anti-union, both of which coincidentally involved Jews. Some of those Jews and other disgruntled employees would later make claims of anti-Semitism against Disney, and he did employ outspoken anti-Semites like Ben Sharpsteen (seriously, with a name like that...) whose views were later conflated with Disney's.

>>90428901
I've only played Infinite and I enjoyed it. Solid 6.5/10. Wouldn't bother with a replay, though.

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>>90428387
i riked it but i can 100% understand all the criticisms aimed at it, i legitimately think the great evironments are a big part of the reason why i enjoyed it so much, the first time you see columbia is just breathtaking

>>90424909
He doesn't force his beliefs on others the way liberals do. He's an evangelical, though, so he must be bad!!!

>>90425647
He's not anti-Semitic in the way that MATTERS.
t. Jew

>>90426104
Yup. I miss old Hollywood.

>>90429357
Yes but he was a smart motherfucker. He fucked Finger well and good and locked up the Batman credit with DC.

Anyone looking to get into the mainstream comic business should take a business course or at least read up on business and basic contracts because the companies can and will try to fuck you out of everything they can. There's a long history going back to literally the very first superhero of people being screwed, and even earlier in the proto-comic pulps.

>>90428773
>The Vox Populi weren't all they were cracked up to be, which I thought was an interesting twist.
Then after leftist pressure, they retconned it in the DLC so that Fitzroy was being forced to threaten that kid by the Luteces.

>>90429528
We'll likely never really know what his thought process was, since we can't ask the old codger himself. Unless someone finds his secret wish diary or something.

Sounds to me though like he was just an opportunist. Not Pro or Anti-Jew; just Pro-Walt Disney.

>>90429817
>sometimes anti-semitism is OK

t. Hitler/Trump

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>>90425647
well it shows he wasnt completely anti-semitic, atleast not irrationally so

compare that to the nazis, which forced people like einstein out of the country, worse yet, they tried to push the "aryan physics" movement, which rejected einstein theories despite the fact everyone knew they were most likely 100% correct

in short they hated jews so much they made themselves dumber as a result, atleast waltie new better than shooting himself in the foot

>>90429931
he atleast wasnt anti-semitic to the point it fucked up his business, thats more you can say about some other people back in the day

>>90429915
Yeah, that does seem to be the case. There's another good AskHistorians thread I can't find but explains how the anti-Semitic legend grew.

It's basically a mix of slander by ex-employees, facts like the Riefenstahl meeting, and rumors getting repeated and inflated over time. Plus Disney's self-cultivated image as "Mr. Homespun Americana" makes a juicy target for scandal even if it's not true, and many people/companies have jumped on that.

>>90429851
That doesn't redeem the Vox at all. It barely even redeems Daisy! She just wanted to make Comstock suffer no matter what and was willing to die for the promise of that happening. Which it did.

That scene made enough sense to me. I thought it was weird that she suddenly wanted to murder his kid like some kind of loledgy psychopath, when she could just smoke Fink and be done with it. The rest of the Vox proved themselves to be bloodthirsty rioters whatever Fitzroy's motivations were.

>>90429851
>forced
The Luteces couldn't force anyone to do anything.

>>90429931
Holy shit, how is "not discriminating against Jews in any meaningful capacity" NOT ENOUGH?

>>90430149
You know why. By today's standard, if you aren't actively champion for the rights of some maligned group, then you're one of the oppressors. "You are either with us, or you're against us."

>>90429946

Yeah, and that generational gap in science severely impeded Germany's development after the war, while other countries like the US profited off the scientists who left.

>>90430149
Well first off, just because he hires some jews doesn't mean he holds them to equal standards.

Second, he's still a bigot. Which is, and always be, immoral.

>>90430208
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>/co/ is not tumblr
hate this

>>90429850
Bob was basically the ultimate Jew with Batman he fucked over Finger well enough no one associates Batman with Bill

It's funny how modern society walks on eggshells around jews and then doesn't give a fuck when Israel gets shat on constantly by the UN.

>>90429065
Bioshock 2's biggest weakness was the opening levels cause it was mostly the same stuff we'd already seen in the first one, minus the finesse. Everything from the flooded art gallery onwards is gorgeous though.
And Minerva's den is a goddamn masterpiece. That recording at the end hit me so hard.

>>90430281
I was answering his question. Did you quote the wrong post?

>>90430208
I hate that so much.

>>90430267
>Second, he's still a bigot.
Why do you say that?

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How hurt was Disney with the Universal deal? It seemed like he really liked Oswald to the point where he made a note about it years later.

So what about the memo from Disney himself on how women aren't allowed to make cartoons, because they were inferior & better at doing what they're told?

>>90424706
>and Communist
Which is the real reason Hollywood hates him.

>>90429065
>>90430445
Bioshock 2 was fucking great gameplay wise I'd say it's the strongest out of the three playing as a fully upgraded big daddy by the end felt OPfeels exactly as it should like your a tank with legs story wise lamb idealism bring complete opposite spectrum as Ryan's was great and seeing her daughter actually change depending on your choices it was a hell of a lot better than infinitie "sci-fi" shit ending plus Eleanor was a much better character than big tits Elizabeth

>>90430647
Yea he worked to root out the red sympathizers.

>>90430864
Better dead than red rabble rabble

>>90431399
>Better dead than red
>he doesn't know that this phrase is an ironic twist on the now-forgotten pro-communist phrase/threat "better red than dead".

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>>90431617
The reference is still valid. But thank you for that bit of historical context, nonetheless.

>>90427011
>pay union dues
get fired for bullshit anyway

>>90425647
He had many jewish employees. He also left the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals explicitly because the organization was anti-semitic.

He also only hated unions later in life or in the animation industry, as he had previously argued with his father in support of the workers at his father's factory unionizing.

>>90428924
From one of his spurned employees. Snopes has since removed the article, but they had one extensively covering the matter.

>>90424706
>>90426905
yeah and his hatred of unions and communists actually had a good reason behind it, since they caused a strike in the early 40's that crippled the studio for months(and it was less him hating the idea of unions, and more through personal experience that Unions could end up being led by assholes who ruin things for everyone, as was the case with the union that was involved with the strike)

otherwise in most respects Walt was probably one of the most ethical men in the entertainment industry's history

>>90428924
from morons trying to create negative aspects to Walt that weren't there, cause the flaws he did have weren't the kind that make for good tabloid headlines or standup comedy routines

>>90429915
unfortunately we can't although I'd say the Bob Thomas written biography is about as close as possible(only real deviance from the truth in it is hiding the fact that Sharon Disney was adopted and not Walt's biological daughter)

>>90429528
>did things like inviting infamous Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to tour his studios when she came to the US which was controversial even at the time.
as it's mentioned in that very link, it was Riefenstahl who asked to come to the studio, not Walt asking her(and Walt would later disavow her visit since he didn't fully realize her connections to the German government at the time)

>>90430579
it heavily informed almost every aspect of how he operated from then on, leading him to be insistent on fully owning everything he made

>>90430621
not true at all, women were involved with animation at his studio from pretty much the beginning(his wife Lilian even started out working at the studio before she and Walt started dating), heck Walt loved women dearly, as shown with his relationship with his wife and his daughters(as well as his secretaries and nurse)

Y'all ever work at one of the parks? 'cause the last time I heard such an impassioned defense of Walt was when I was talking to someone that had spent a lot of time working at Disney World. Not that that's bad, he was a really cool dude. Quick to correct people on Disney history, though.

>>90436534
most people that actually work at the park want to be there and love Disney, it makes sense in that regard

the idea of a person "putting in hours" would clash with the image Disney likes to have for their parks so you hire really impassioned people who love working there to make the atmosphere more memorable

>>90424706
That is 100% true, not a rumor at all.

>>90427977
This. Lee definitely deserves credit, moreso on the business end of things. The artists are the real talent, but they wouldn't have been able to do their work without Lee.

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>>90424706
>implying Walt didn't hate Jews

Hmmm, they guy who was personally screwed over by jews, almost to the point of bankruptcy in in early career in an era were is was more normal than not to hold prejudiced against jews, did not in fact hate jews. After all, he ~employed~ them, you can't hate people you employ.

Fuck off Disney shill, Walt isn't your fucking perfect father. He was a normal person with views from his time period.

>>90437977
so you didn't read any of the thread, huh?

>>90428793
I totally agree with you anon
the man was a man with dreams. a wish to bring happiness to people everywhere, whether jew or not all he cared about was how disney would go down in history as the place where dreams come true.

>>90438095
Hey idiot, I don't care about your shitty thread, I only care about the lie you put forward in the OP pretending that Disney wasn't anti-Semitic.

You fucking losers with daddy issues project Walt into some kind of perfect being with modern progressive values.

>>90424706
op is not a faggot

>>90438184
you forgot to ree

"Steve Ditko left Spider-Man because he disagreed with Stan Lee over the Green Goblin's identity."

This one is false because by that point, Ditko was doing the plotting himself, and Stan once confirmed that he was letting Ditko plot the stories by himself, back in January 1966 interview in the New York Herald Tribune. And Ditko himself confirmed he always intended Osborn to be the Green Goblin.

>"Aquaman is gay and useless because his powers don't work on land"
>"Superman has too many powers to be interesting"
>"Batman wins every fight and always has infinite prep time"

>>90424706
>Hitler didn't hate jews, he employed the Werner Goldberg and several other Jewish people as long as they were talented

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>>90436035
>yeah and his hatred of unions and communists actually had a good reason behind it, since they caused a strike in the early 40's that crippled the studio for months(and it was less him hating the idea of unions, and more through personal experience that Unions could end up being led by assholes who ruin things for everyone, as was the case with the union that was involved with the strike)

Pic related

>>90428924
Honest-to-God, I think it's because people think he looks like Hitler.

>Duuuh, a man from the '40s with a mustache? It's Hitler!

>>90428773
Infinite was absolute shit and I will never understand how so many people like it better than Bioshock 2, let alone the original.

>2 weapon limit
>Vigors are plasmids by another name
>Enemies lack personality of Splicers
>Colombia is extremely bland compared to rapture
>Psuedo-science bullshit used to explain glaring plotholes and no consistency in the whole "infinite worlds" concept
>Villains are shit
>Booker and Elizabeth are the only decent characters
>That whole clusterfuck of an ending that needs a complicated chart to understand
>Songbird being completely fucking wasted

It's such a shame too, you can see it change gradually over the dev cycle into the squandered shit we got. Infinite really had some great concepts behind it that either got completely dropped or changed to the point it's negligible.

>>90427011
Unions often just become organized price fixing criminals, either in collusion with corporations to keep wages low or artificially inflate them and fuck over all non union employees

>>90429065
I have a soft spot for 2 and think the gameplay is an overall improvement but I can't help be a bit disappointed when it was one of the first games I started following regularly up from release, especially with that bullshit delay. I think what they did to Big Sister was the worst, you can tell from the opening moments that they had some pretty great ideas for her but after that she just becomes another mook to stomp. There's also a a veritable cornucopia of cut ideas that would have been fucking great had they actually been used, especially some of the more "out there" stuff they wanted to do with Rapture and Splicers considering the timeskip. As is, there's still the great stuff you mentioned but there's still that nagging feeling that cool have been better.

>>90430445
However, this guy is right that Minerva's Den was pretty damn great. It's story and characters were simply impeccable.

>>90426648
Eh, Lee's concepts were good but his scripts were fucking shit
his true genius was shilling. He took the company to heights it never could have reached without him for sure. He also had a great Eye for talent. He's one of the all time great jews. When Ike Perlmutter took over he tried to get Lee to slash his salary. At the end of the meeting Lee had gotten himself a raise, and gotten his wife a pension. Never try to outjew Stan Lee.

>>90424904
>Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
The problem is when he think he is entitled to the seat of the brow of other people.

>>90441497
If that's how you feel, then you could have been a vital part of Rapture. Err, I mean Epcot.

>>90441434
>Unions often just become organized price fixing criminals, either in collusion with corporations to keep wages low or artificially inflate them and fuck over all non union employees

If that's the case, then companies are just organized price fixing criminals too. Where are your statistics exactly?

The point of a union is to protect its workers. If a union fucks over non-union employees, guess what? That's your problem. Try joining a union if you don't like it, retard.

In a truly free market economy, unions will be as free as companies, because they are how the common worker controls the price and terms of labour. Without unions, the common worker is fucked, because you have virtually 0 bargaining power as an individual.

>>90441766
Bargaining like that also requires a govt willing to keep the bargaining table level. Since the 80s we've seen American govt colluding with and pandering to private companies, including fucking over unions whenever it came to their hard-won rights.

The tech sector's a fucking nightmare for workers despite always demanding "trained" people, because the Silicon Valley crowd detests unions, and they set the standard for the rest of the country.

>>90425396
The first one is great.
The second one is good.

Infinite... had Skyhooks.

>>90438923
I knew it!

>>90430579
I don't get why when ever a biopic or documentary get's made about Walt, they skip over his Oswald days.

It's perfect drama material and kind of a major point in the lead up to Mickey and the studios.

>>90424706
The rumors about anti-semitism came from one unsourced sensationalist book about him which literally made other things up that can be factually disproved. Now it's taken as truth for some odd reason, the equivalent would be if it was widely believed the moon landings were faked because of some conspiracy theorist. Remember to always check your sources.

>>90441478
Yeah. Much like Walt, Stan was just a very savvy businessman. He was better at selling the ideas others had come up with than they ever would have been by themselves. Neither Walt nor Stan were really the creative geniuses they're been made out to be, but Stan was definitely necessary to the success of the guys who wrote and drew the comics.

>>90424904
The best decision they made with Iron Man 2 was to make Howard Stark blatantly Epcot-Era Walt Disney.

>>90427011
Unions are buisness that leech off workers and industry. Temporary unionization to adress a specific issue isnt a problem. Once the union becomes a perpetual organization that charges members a fee, they become a problem.

>>90429931
>Donald "israel is a great ally" Trump

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>>90429931
>t. Hitler

>>90441766
>The point of a union is to protect its workers.
>If a union fucks over non-union employees, guess what? That's your problem.

We defend workers, but 'our' workers!

Kill yourself.

>>90430267
>Second, he's still a bigot. Which is, and always be, immoral.
Bigot kinda uses it's value when you overuse it so much. Maybe stop proving stereotypes true and people will tone it down.

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>>90444305
Fuck off cunt, why should you get all the benefits from unionisation if you don't pitch in yourself? You know what we call that? Parasitism. You are disgusting parasite, living off the work of others, and telling them to kill themselves for not giving you everything. That is disgusting. I can understand not joining a union, but getting angry when they don't represent people outside of the union? That is absolute, pure and utter retardation.

>>90444290

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUfGWKsJs4E

>>90425109

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>>90444505
>pay us a fee from your work
>so we can help you oppose your boss who makes money from your work
>by the way we are going to fuck you up if you don't

t. syndicalist

It's funny that the boss now looks better, because at least he isn't forcing what would be a Mafia ring.

>>90429771
>>90424909

He did have this period where he would search his name on Twitter and shout down anyone who said anything remotely bad about his work. He eventually stopped and erased a shit ton of those tweets. But more than a few people weren't even aware he was conservative or an evangelical. They just weren't too fond of someone asspained enough to yell at everyone who was "mean" to him on Twitter.

>>90425476
Because any idiot bootlegger can print on a character on an object

>>90424706
>Walt Disney's head/body is frozen

in accordance with his will, he was cremated and his ashes interred in a forest in California.

>>90424706
He did hated Jews, as any normal person did in his era, he as anyone else knew that individuals are not the same as a group, you can think blacks are violent and stupid and still respect and care about a black friend.

>>90424909
Dude called me a faggot just because I didn't like Catscratch.

>>90426027
If you actually say something like "I wouldn't mind if jews took over the company", you're definitely antisemitic. That's like people that say "I have a lot of black friends".

>>90445113
Depends on the context of the conversation.

>>90445131
when the fuck would would that fit into a conversation (that isn't already racist)?

>>90445131
Don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit whether he was or wasn't. I'm just saying to call a spade a spade.

>>90445248
>Walt, we can't let the goddamn Jews take over the company!
>I don't mind if the Jews take over the company

>>90445272
Exactly my point. Conversation is already racist.

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'Three Little Pigs' cartoon

>>90445272
With someone actually not racist

>Walt, we can't let the goddamn Jews take over the company!
>Goddamn it Jeff! I told you to keep for fucking racist comments to yourself you fucking bigoted ape.

>>90445283
>>90445359
Why is the reply racist? Do you just object to the use of "the Jews"? is the statement
>The Jews suffered badly in Nazi Germany
racist?

>Walt knew the evils of global zionism
>now his company serves the jews

>New Gods was begun specifically as a potential toyline for children, but it never sold well enough

>>90437852
Kirby in particular suffered from this. His fans tell you - probably told him at the time - that Marvel was screwing him and Lee was taking all the credit for Kirby's creations, but

>a lot of Kirby's stuff is actually just derivative of pop-culture shit from the era, specifically ANCIENT ALIENS and so on;

>Lee was one of the first editors at any comic book publisher to insist on the creators getting story credits - a decision which eventually led to modern creator-owned comic books being financially viable as creators, not properties, were able to get a fanbase from then onward;

>Kirby was a very difficult man to work with - argumentative - but prolific. Lee was smart enough to work with that and just let Kirby draw what he wanted, then try and figure out the narrative and put the words on it afterwards, but he also let a lot of Kirby's problems slide for so long that Kirby never really had to see them until he left and went over to DC, where he was unhappy

>>90444505
Holy shit Americans are delusional, you guys are insane. Parasitic relationships are the base of capitalism. Fucking idiot that's why you have third world working rights.

>>90445427
lolwut?!? No you clod. Using "jew" or "black" or whatever in a conversation is fine. My point is that someone that's honestly not racist doesn't need to specify the race or ethnicity of someone else when it's irrelevant in the conversation.

Example: "I'm going to get a beer with my jewish friend." Unless the there's some reason why it's relevant that the friend is jewish, only racists would feel the need to specifically mention that the friend is jewish. It's clearly a "thing" even though the two are friends.

>>90427011
You niggers wouldn't get it since none of you have jobs, but Unions are fucking up the country by protecting the incompetent and lazy. If you knew what they paid these fuckers to make your car and how much they dicked off in a day, you'd be pissed.

Unions are socialism in action. The most capable and hardest-working employees are paid the same as the stupidest and laziest.

>>90445852
Fuck you, dude. I work transit. There's no time for dicking around on the job in the garage or else nobody would be able to get anywhere on time. The union makes sure we get paid enough to actually live in the city where we work. And because we have a set of skills that not many other people in the country have.