which show is better? and why is it gumball?

>>90412612
Gumball.

Even when I was big on SU, I'd still have said Gumball is better.

>>90412612
How can anyone not pick Gumball?

tough call, im gon say SU, but i can easily understand why anybody would prefer gumball, its the best animated cartoon ive ever seen, and easily the funniest one currently airing

>>90412612
Gumball, but where does the comparison come from? They're entirely different in just about every way other than the coincidental fact that they air on the same network

gumball

>>90412632
This.
I think SU tries too hard on "sensible" topics (hurr here's a sad backstory now cry). When TAWOG tries to bring some feels it does it pretty damn well. The Choices made my cry my ass off and I don't even know how

>>90412612
Gumball songs > SU songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyYxGHN73ZQ

>>90412612
Steven Universe
Gumball is fine but some episodes try way too hard wth ironic humor

>>90412720
You have those reversed, trannyverse is the one who tries too hard with ironic humor.

>>90412612
SU season 1 > Gumball > SU seasons 2-4

>>90412679
Probably because they'll do it in the span of one episode, rather than hinting at something in one episode and then leaving you sitting on ice for the next fifty.

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>Tumblr Whisperverse
>The Overdone References of Screamball

Two very different shows for two different types of low intellect individuals.

Gumball shits all over SU.

>>90412612
Gumball and I like SU slightly better, out of the two.

Gumball puts vidya on notice.
Gumball puts memes on notice.
Gumball puts anime on notice.
Gumball puts YouTube on notice.
Gumball puts Chinese copycat on notice.
Gumball even puts the main character voice actors on notice.
Gumball would probably put all of CN on notice if it felt like it.

>>90412612
Gumball has better animation. It sets the bar while SU pulls the bar down and takes a crap on it and then just says the shitty animation is their art style.

The characters are done way better in Gumball. Compare the townies to the background characters in SU.

Gumball is just a cartoon addressing SoL in the universe they've created. But they do their mundane topics (being late to school, having your first kiss, procrastinating on your chores) through their universe and make it hilarious. SU just has either dramatic plot development episodes of really, really shitty SoL episodes with the town people. Partly because the setting sucks (boring beach city) and also because the townies are abysmally bad

Gumball is one of the only shows I've actually laughed out loud at and not just interally chuckled, and it still hasn't let up after all this time. Shit has so many brilliant dialogue and sight gags that are really fucking unique thanks to the mish-mash art style and good writing in general. I really don't get why it isn't more popular than it is.
I might be overselling it, but honestly, it feels like CN's equivelent of The (good seasons of the) Simpsons, it's that good. SU can't compete with that.

Christ. They both rank between shit and toxic waste.

Uh.

The one about the autistic fat kid, I guess.

>>90412855
what do you watch then, oh gifted autistic man child god of all that is good taste

>>90412612
>and why is it gumball?
Because it's funny and clever. Also, SU's plot doesn't interest me, so it has nothing to balance the gap

Gumball is one of the best cartoons of all time, if not THE best cartoon of all time. Everything works. The characters are lovable and have perfect on screen comedic timing and chemistry. The sight gags and dialogue are so uniquely and brilliantly written it would make The Simpsons and Spongebob look bad by comparison. It feels like a sitcom, but it isn't. It has actual lore that doesn't fuck up the entire show. The animation is fucking beautiful. Like holy shit, where do they get the budget for that? Beautiful backgrounds and perfect animation for the dialogue. It's just so good. Gumball is the most lovable MC in a children's cartoon ever by the way.

Steven Universe is alright. Every once in a while they'll produce a really fucking good episode but in between it's a lot of meh and filler. It's not completely shit like most anons here say, but I personally just cannot get with it. The animation looks fucking awful at times. It's hard to even focus on the show sometimes it's so distracting. The writing can range from "pretty good" tier to atrocious tier. The characters are all mostly unlikable save for Greg and maybe Garnet from time to time. Steven is a whiny cunt, Pearl is just a selfish, horrible being, Amethyst actually isn't too bad. It's just all so meh. Nothing stands out. And don't even get me started on the filler townie episodes. They are always bad. No exception. Rocknaldo and Beach City Drift are prime examples of this. I have no idea why I continue to watch SU. I think it's just because I like to know what everyone is complaining about.

Overall, Gumball is much better than Steven Universe. Steven feels as if it's done constantly half assedly because Sugar's team is such newbie Tumblr shite. I mean look at Lauren Zuke, tell me half of Steven's fanbase and writers isn't exactly like her. Gumball has a competent team with a good sense of humor and storytelling and a creator that is one of us. Ben Boquelet just understands basic humor and storytelling.

>>90412612
Gumball.

Gumball is simply super fun, actually funny, have loads of waifus of all shapes and sizes, have superior songs, background characters that make you go "oh, that guy/girl looks interesting, I hope we have an episode focusing on him/her", and despite being situated in a single town is somehow more exciting than a setting where there is a constant threat of alien rock lesbians planning to take over. Shit niggah, this is a comedy show, and we had an antagonist that was super threatening and nearly destroyed Gumball's life,

>>90413604
That episode where Gumball opens his mind and realizes there are other characters in the school that aren't in his grade is fucking amazing

>>90412612
Gumball's actually really funny, clever and well animated.
Steven's weirdly written, mostly bland and the plot is pretty unsatisfying.

>>90413881
>The episode where they run out of money and their animation gets worse and worse until the characters are a bunch of stick figures on post-it notes.

>>90413463
>this massive bait

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>>90413604
>have loads of waifus
There is only one waifu in Gumball. She is better than any girl from SU tho,

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>>90414120
>There is only one waifu in Gumball. She is better than any girl from SU tho,

but thats where you are wrong Gumfriend

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>>90414157
>posting the worst gem

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>>90414198
>posting inferior waifu

>Gumball threads are so dead they need to drag SU into them so people can finally start talking about the show
lol

>>90414264
what else do you propose?

>>90412748
Gumball S2 > SU season 1 > Gumball S1 + S3-S5 > SU seasons 2-4

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>>90414264
>they need
It's only one autistic idiot who thinks Gumball is the best cartoon ever.

You know?
Gumbo has no unlikeable character, even Richard who is considered by many the worst character has a lot of wonderful moments.

>>90414378
>Gumbo has no unlikeable character
Who is Gumball

>>90414378
Ocho is a fucking shit though

>>90412612
Gumball obviously.
SU takes itself too seriously.

>>90414391
A loveable cunt

Gumball can tackle serious subjects without taking itself too seriously. Which is great.

that fat boy is wasting my time , 4 hour go in and out of the cluster , ask 0 question about homeworld along with peridot .

>>90412612
Gumball is a better cartoon
But Steven is a better show

Gambo raised the bar with episodes like The Job and The Question

SU only raised questions on how it managed to be so popular.
There is no good character, it's tonally all over the place and the designs are ugly (and not appealing ugly like The Rugrats or Duckman). A lot of episodes are also boring as fuck, even a mediocre TAWOG episode like the most recent "The Weirdo" has redeeming qualities (the musical non with those crazy drawings).

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Definitley the Amazing world of Gumball! One of my all time favorite shows!

>>90412612
Not only Gumball, but also WBB, Clarence, uncle granpa are better show than SU.

>>90414277
Put S3 Gumball alongside S2 Gumball and I agree.

>>90412612
Gumball manages to take itself more seriously by keeping a consistent quality.
Steven Universe has self-control similar to a modern toddler's program in comparison.

>>90416029
I should also mention that I think that both shows are awful.

>>90412612
SU1=G2/3>4/5G>1G>SU2/3
Don't know what the FUCK happen to SU.
Rebeca dropped the ball after S1 finale.

I think the craziest thing is that between the two the most subtle show is TAWOG.
SU is incredibly incompetent with its writing.

>>90416165
>Don't know what the FUCK happen to SU.
Character development hasn't expanded since (we learn more about them sure, but the characters don't develop or learn anything), they're no more surprises as part of what made S1 great is you don't expect the bigger central plot coming.

But the biggest flaw is the show itself seems to not know whether it wants to be a spice of life or epic space drama and instead makes a half-assed mixture of the two.

This is most likely due to the fact that the show has no god damn writers.

>>90416165
The problem is that the show can be separated into SoL and then plot development episodes. SoL is worse than fillet because 1) it tends to involve townies and 2) nothing reflects SU in SoL now

They used to be able to do it correctly. Remember that episode when Steven had to take Connie back to her house and he saw multiple outcomes through Garnet's future vision? That's an example of creating good SoL episodes by using the unique qualities and aspects of the show and it's world that you have created. Rocknaldo is the opposite. It might as well be completely separate characters in a completely different show because nothing in the episode uses the universe they've created.

Also the SoL tends to focus so much on the message that they forget to be entertaining.

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>that one time where SU fans and Gumball fans started fighting due to the anime sequences each one had

>>90412694
This is still the best one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYn-u8-1NDc

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>>90416297
I remember that.
SU isn't known for good animation most of the time so I took it that SU fans "needed" that win if it makes sense.

It was one of the better episodes honestly.

>>90416395
Which was "anime" steven one again? Besides all the ripped off scenes I mean.

>>90416297
The gumball one was downright impressive for their already low and stressed budget.

>"Hey let's just create an entire sequence with a unique art style we haven't done yet as a homage to the genre."

>>90416247
>the show has no god damn writers.
the world building makes this so painfully obvious.

The city on the beach where they all live? Beach City

The homeworld of the gems? Gem Homeworld

The ominous "cluster" at the center of the earth? A literal cluster of gems. (Also side note how the fuck did they get that shit down there? Was it before, during, or after the war? And why the fuck did the Crystal Gems not know it existed? And if Homeworld spent so much time and resources to do it why the fuck did they abandon it? Didn't they think the Crystal Gems were gone? If so why didn't they rush over to make sure nothing was compromised when they misunderstood that Rose was still alive? And if they really thought Steven was Rose why didn't they send more than fucking Jasper and the rubies to take her out when she was the greatest terrorist their people have ever known? I mean she shattered a fucking diamond and let a resistance that turned their people against them, you'd think they'd want to crush her as fast as possible when they found out "she" was still alive or there were crystal gems still alive.)

And the best part is the name of the Crystal Gems. I get the homeworld gems just being referred to as gems being its a caste society and the leaders are unique and so their names are their status symbol.

But why the fuck do the Crystal Gems still do this? Aren't they all about individuality and fighting the caste system of homeworld? Doesn't Pearl fucking hate being thought of only as a pearl? Then why the fuck do they still refer to themselves as their gem time? Why didn't they pick out names?

Fuck this show is so retarded.

>>90416511
I googled "Steven Universe anime scene" and got no specific hits other than the garnet episode where they referenced anime. No scene with anime animation though.

Gumball's is here for anyone who hasn't scene it yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvks9zNnNHc

>>90416552
Than what was the "fight" that guy mentioned all about?

>>90416552
SU had some big name Japanese director for one episode.
The only difference for that episode is that it looked more smooth.

>>90416513
You're talking about a show that's too timid to expand the world beyond beach city what do you expect? We heard more about Connie's school than scene for fucks sake. And of course I'm not going to touch the bucket of worms which is Steven not going to school and developing autism

>>90416552
I just now realized Yuki was calling Nicole "Neko" which is japanese for cat. I wondered if they planned for that ahead of time or just had the actor pronounce it like this for this scene when they realized they could make an in joke, considering most kids don't know japanese

>>90416552
The episode is "Mindful Education". It wasn't literally anime stylized but it had a Trigger animator guest do the animations for it.

People freaked out because it was their best animated episode and generally, well, you saw the Peridot and Roadrunner post right?

>>90416552
Look up "Here Comes A Thought".
It's not really an "anime scene", it's just boarded by a member of Studio Trigger who is a fanboy of the show.

>>90416595
There was no "fight", just a few comparisons here and there and the usual SU haters ready to shit everything up.

>>90416650
>I wondered if they planned for that ahead of time or just had the actor pronounce it like this for this scene when they realized they could make an in joke, considering most kids don't know japanese
It's plausible actually. Originally Gumball and his family were meant to look like old fashioned chibi pop anime. It's not as obvious now since the art style and show has changed and evolved through the seasons but the anime influences in their initial designs are more obvious in the first two season.

>>90416682
Is Steven really this stupid looking?
From what I have gathered, he is a mentally stunted fourteen year old stuck in a 8 year old body.

>>90416651
>>90416702
>tfw you consider that to be one of the weakest SU episodes

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>>90416595
I have no idea what he's referencing hence why I googled it

>>90416616
>invite guest animator
>animation gets better

fucking kek, the shittiness of the animation in SU never ceases to amaze me

>>90416747
had to repost cause fucked up a sentence. The animation is really fucking bad and they make the most basic of mistakes. And yes the fandom basically accepts that he has autism and is emotionally stunted

That's like saying whether you consider apples or oranges the better fruit.

>>90416552
fucking kek they made the kid's mouth's not sync up with their voices

Gumball doesn't vapidly pander to the gay audience or try to disguise obvious PR stunts as being rogressive.

>>90416552
holy shit that's better animated than most animate fights

>>90416513
>>"Hey let's just create an entire sequence with a unique art style we haven't done yet as a homage to the genre."

but they didnt animate it, 4C studio did it

>>90417204
still had to pay for it

>>90417111
Oranges are the better fruit though.

>>90413328
>I really don't get why it isn't more popular than it is.

Someone correct me on this, but I've heard it's been crazy popular with children, both in the US and internationally. It's also CN's most aired show behind TTGo.

>>90412612
Gumball actually has writers and wit. Steven is purely drama slop that anyone can write.

>>90417287
It's actually very popular internationally but nobody talks about it for some reason

>>90413328
>>90417287
It's the most popular international animated show and has even been praised by critics in Europe.

It's really only ignored in America, where even then it gets large ratings from children.

It's not PPG levels of popularity but it's up there. I imagine the lack of merchandising here in America more then likely stems from internal politics from Cartoon Network Studios Europe we don't know about.

>>90417443
/co/ is just retarded.
/v/ was able to discuss one episode of Gumball for about three damn threads while /co/ barely has the brain power discuss their dead cat waifu.

>>90413945
>the episode where Gumball tried to get a kid to slap his ass

>>90417551
>that episode where the cable goes out and they discover they are in a TV show

>>90417527
worst is /a/

can't discuss Your Name without massive Keit-ai spam despite the meme being completely inaccurate to the plot

>>90417527
You are really stupid.

>>90417636
Are you actually going to explain why you think I am wrong or are you going bitch at a distance?

I wish

>>90417527
/co/ has no taste anyways.

>>90412612
You cant really compare the two. One has a plot and the other is like spongebob

Overall it's SU, but Gumball is funnier.

>>90417733
We did discuss the episode. It was a very active thread but you cannot have a discuss running forever. The bomb/nuke format is a big problem for us too.

>>90417994
>discuss
discussion*

Gumball was hilarious in the first 1-2 seasons, but it's so boring now. I don't even laugh when I watch it, and there's no value to it other than comedic.

Steven Universe's 1st season was among my favourite cartoon's, but it seems to be dwindling down. The build up is taking way too long and the townie episodes they keep shitting out suck ass. However, the jokes still make me laugh and it has value in it's lore and world building.

SU wins for me.

>>90412612
Easily Gumball, though SU is also pretty nice.

>>90417994
You guys were barely able to discuss it for about a single thread. Keep in mind that the thread here took more than a day to actually get archived. The /v/ threads where able to get around three threads of The Console in less time than /co/ was able to get through one.
Right now, the /co/ Gumball threads are struggling to support themselves. Even when the VOD episodes are available, the thread is being kept alive by waifu fags and unnecessary bumps.

>>90412694
This is song is really fun, but wow that aggressive Melodyne use. It's almost unlistenable.

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>>90418208
>The /v/ threads where able to get around three threads of The Console in less time than /co/ was able to get through one.
>"omg why are /v/, the faster board of 4chan is faster than a slow board like/co/?"
Really? and keep in mind that /v/ is really good with off-topic discussion but SUCKS at on-topic discussion. Every videogame thread is shitposting, baits, waifu/husbando shit and forced memes.

>Even when the VOD episodes are available
Pic related

>>90418384
>why are
Fucking mobile posting

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>>90418208
>>90414264
>ad populum is being used as an argument

Hahaha. You can't be serious. The vast majority of people that flood into places like /sug/ are linked here from tumblr. They have no connection to the rest of the site, no familiarity with the culture of the board, that's why whenever these sort of threads lure them out of their echo chamber, they get all offended and defensive as if they've never experienced even the most base of 4chan trolls. The generals represent the worst of everything about that sort of format, pointless subjects and threads (more often than not OP'd with a piece of shitty fanart to give someone in the thread good feelsies), inane shitposting borrowed heavily from /a/, and a community that never leaves the general or if they do it's to post about that general's subject in another fandom's threads (like SU fags trying to take over the Star vs s2 finale thread the other day).

Not only that, but fad shows like Steven Universe will inevitably dry up like Adventure Time did, as soon as the next shiny tumblr object attracts all the femanons, juanposters, and attention starved drawfags.

Not a fan of either show by the way, they're both the same sort of tired, CalArts face, anime/meme referencing schlock which have plagued the early 2010's.

Steven dropped the ball in almost every category.
Gumball's still consistently pretty good.

>>90418384
>bombs and nuke work for SU even with leaks
>nuke works for SVTFOE even with leaks
>nuke fails with Gumball even with leaks

Ironic.

>>90418806
But for steven they only have important plot thing in bombs and nothing but filler otherwise. For gumball it just burns people out having so much all at once.

>>90418806
>being this retarded
SU and SVTFOE get booms of a week. We got a fucking month of non-stop episodes. The first two weeks were active but now people is tired.

>>90418887
Star vs had a pretty decent month for February.
Almost a new episode every day.

>>90413881
Dat pseudo-show opening for Clare had me in stitches.

>>90417527
>/v/ was able to discuss one episode of Gumball for about three damn threads
Sauce?

>>90417592
>that episode where Gumball tried to emotionally break his classmate by kidnapping his parents and selling them

>>90418997
Here's one
>>>/v/369043816

>>90412612
because the majority of the characters are actually likable and not just there for fap material, plus it doesn't rely on shitty sprinkles of lore and buildup with no payoff to make it engaging. It's entertaining because of what happens IN the episodes, not what the episodes imply. I don't give a fuck if Rose might've been bad. if you're at the third of fourth season and you still haven't answered basic questions asked in season 1 then its not really worth all the buildup. if feels more like you're just being dragged along the ride. maybe if it was an actual live action drama where it had potential for 8 or 10 seasons, but we all know this shit ain't gonna last that long so they might as well do something with it not instead of cock teasing and introducing more pointless characters that do nothing to add to the overarching story that they're dragging out.

you can watch one episode of gumball and be hooked, whereas if you watch a random out of order SU ep you'll sit there feeling out of the loop and either wanting more or wanting none.

>>90419280
>plus it doesn't rely on shitty sprinkles of lore and buildup with no payoff to make it engaging
Gumball did this exactly with Rob. About five episodes leading up to the season 4 final ruined with a actual reset button.
Penny breaking her shell had more consequences for the show than that.

How is it that Gumball's characters are somehow much more sane than Steven's despite Gumball being much more of a traditional, zany type cartoon?

>>90419536
It's a meme forced for some gumballfags.

>>90419536
Because Gumball is not a mouthpiece for ideological insanity.

>>90414105
You replying to me is bait in itself.

>>90414157
but she is a cuck

>>90414308
Post more Carls

>>90419536
Because every character in SU is seen through Steven's eyes aka an incredibly retarded lens

I like the reality where Greg can't give a shit about his son but Steven is too autistic to realize it

>>90419536
steven takes itself seriously
gumball doesn't

>>90422624
Steven doesn't take itself THAT seriously. They make fun of the crying shtick all the time

>>90422674
but does nothing about it

>>90422624
>steven takes itself seriously
The show barely has a direction.

>>90417173
Explain all the homosexual kissing in Gumball and all the times that for honestly no reason they show Gumball naked. I think Gumball's creator and writers are true real life pedophiles.

>>90423039
It's funny.
There isn't a deep plot in Gumball to actually take it seriously.

>>90423159
...that's the point it's a fucking cartoon. The writers of SU focused so much on adding an overarching plot that anything other than plot development episodes are a total wash

Also the plot isn't "deep" it's hardly difficult to understand and has a shit load of plot holes

>>90412612
Teen Titans Go is best

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>>90420015
SHE IS TOO GOOD FOR ROSE ANYWAYS!

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>>90419536
>How is it that Gumball's characters are somehow much more sane

actually Gumball has way worse characters than SU, almost all of the wattersons are based on family cliches which make some of the jokes revolved around their traits predictable, particularly when it comes to richard, on top of this, the characterization in general is pretty weak, and you will often see characters act completely out of character, for instance, while its been established Gumball is a complete idiot, he will sometimes make some strangely smart remarks despite his stupidity, this isnt done for the sake of subversion tough, since the fact he said something smart isnt meant to be the joke (most of the time), instead it looks like the line of dialog was meant for Anais, but she wasnt around to say it, a prime example of this in the Answer (amazing episode btw) after the planet's musical piece Gumball remarks how the sun will eventually explode and destroy the planets by the time they finish their smug little song, which is true, btu theres no reason why Gumball would know that

say what you want about SU characters, but the arent really based on cliches and they almost never act out of character

>>90425544
This. The characterization of The Watterson is awful. They act completely different depending on the plot.

>>90425544
They're pretty much the simpsons as far as charactarization goes. How smart they are really depends though.

>>90426095
>pretty much the simpsons as far as charactarization goes
Yeah, no.

>>90412855
Waste of dubs from a weeb. Not everything can be dragon ballzz or naruturd

>>90426140
as far as basic family dynamic goes, it's fairly similar.

>>90412612
Gumball is fun to watch.

SU hurts to even listen too.

>>90426875
No. Without Richard, they are literally malcolm's family from malcolm in the middle.

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>>90412612
>Watch SU in its entirety while only seen a few episodes of Gumball
>Still agree Gumball is the better show

Steven's great but the writing in Gumball just isn't matched.

>>90412612

Gumball.

This are too diametrically diferente show, though.

>>90413342

Nice way to cover yourself SUfaggot.

No, excuse me, it's just faggot.

>>90414105

It's seems pretty reasonable. It's a perfectly viable opinion, although it did seems like he started ranting against SU mid way.

Gumball
I eventually found steven to be more frustrating to watch than anything.