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Star vs the Morning

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Why are they so cute and perfect?
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STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!

CUTE AND PERFECT!
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CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING

>Marco's arm is turned into a tentacle with a mind of its own, that tries to kill and eat others and attempts to strangle him at one point. This episode is also kicked off by him accidentally breaking his arm
>purple Mewberty gunk shoots out of Star's arm out of nowhere and sticks to a locker
>Marco karate-chops Tom's hand off before it reattaches itself through demon magic. Not even a plot point or anything; it just happens
>Toffee is permanently missing a finger and we see the open wound, including part of the bone, nearly every time he appears physically
>later on we also get to see the severed finger itself
>Toffee's arm is shot off and we get a direct shot of the bloody wound. Later it graphically regrows onscreen
>Marco's arm is briefly trapped within his crystal cage in the same episode, just long enough to give the impression something's about to happen to it
>Rasticore seems to have some sort of metallic/prosthetic arm; same with Meat Fork. Other incidental/background characters have traits like this too but they're the most prominent
>Rasticore also gets disintegrated and all that remains is a bit of his arm. Heinous goes on to carry the still-conscious arm around with her as it slowly regrows
>Rhombulus's snake hands have a mind of their own. They try to knock him unconscious, and he responds by physically beating them into submission and then crystallizing them
>Toffee regrows Ludo's own flesh over the bones that make up his wand. Ludo's own arm is now inside Toffee's while Toffee's bones are inside Ludo, making one hand of the possessed Ludo oversized. Ludo/Toffee also has a random rock in his hand now, to stabilize the wand crystal

So can we all just agree that Nefcy has a fetish for hand/arm body horror, or
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>>90359549
When you spend enough time with someone, you have an unspoken bond that few others can understand or even experience. Some call it Love
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>>90359582
Nefcy is pretty kinky. Have you seen her comics and animations?
I bet she wants Monster Arm to be her boyfriend too
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>>90359582
Star losing her own arm when?
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>>90359627
The weird stuff she draws is great.
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>>90359631
>The body I've lost... the Kingdom I've lost...

>Star... I'm already a monster.
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https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1488/24/1488248974342.jpg

This show's writers is cucks?
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>S3
>Marco is finally determined to find Star
>Went through multiple adventures saving helpless victims and beating evil monsters
>Famous among Mewnians for his mission: "I need to find Star."
>Star eventually learn of this, touched, but Moon reminds her to focus
>Star believes Marco will find him, because she believes in him
>Marco continues building up legends, allies, skills and weapons
>He went through hardships and loss, but keeps going because he "needs to find Star".
>Finally about to meet Star in S3 mid-season hiatus
>Both defeated a giant monster together
>On top of the monster, Marco held Star's hands
>"Star, I want us to remain friends."
>hiatus
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>>90359709
We are all cucks enjoying works by other cucks.
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>>90359623
>>90359549
whos the artist

i love this shit
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>>90359709
I keep seeing you trying to force this, are you that weeb and want a pat in the back or something?
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>>90359773
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>>90359682

>nipples

How dare you? This is a Christian image board, please delet this nudity.
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I wanna have an episode about Heinous trying to crash Princess Marco con.
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>>90359791
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What about star vs the world?
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>>90359709

I know he's like kinda your hero or something, but portraying hentai of a work to its creators are disgraceful.
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>>90359791
>>90359809
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>>90359823
>but portraying hentai of a work to its creators are disgraceful.

It's 2017, they knew what they were getting into by joining twitter.
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>>90359842

They sure could handle it. I'm just saying.
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The commission ain't dead, they're probably got zapped into some random magical place like Glossaryck in that one ep. In the live chat Nefcy pretty much confirmed they're important and will be back next season.
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>>90359818
Soon when she goes full Dark Star.

>season 3 is all about corrupting Star as she tries to defeat Toffee
>they beat Toffee in the midseason finale but Eclipsa comes out of nowhere
>Star is manipulated into the dark side
>becomes Dark Star in the season finale
>season 4 is Star AND the Forces of Evil
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>>90359691
oh i have been searching this pic for months!!!!!!
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So what was the Trans Marco ttheorists' delusional explanation for older future Marco?
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>>90359549
>Spend 6 hours reading Starco fanfiction
>more than a little lewd
>don't fap
>don't even take off pants
>left feeling warm comfort in my chest but also a deep longing
>from the darkest magical realms the most arousing I find is Marco calling Star his princess and Star calling him "Papi"
h e l p
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>>90359691
but it could impoved tho.instead of an sharapnel horn, broken left horn on left of his head, and yellow hair. also posing like this pic
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>REEEEEEEEE GIVE ME PIZZA TENDIES NOW OR ELSE I'M GOING TO START DATING BLAKE INSTEAD
What did she mean by this
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>>90359691
the fuck is wrong with her eyepatch?
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>>90359942
>Ravage me right now, Marco
>"You want me to kiss ya?"
>"N-NO! I just want you to feed me pizza nuggets."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYqfZ7QYxQo

Nefcy knows how to twist the knife
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https://youtu.be/WEVE5GFhJr4

don't read the comments
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Starco 1000% endgame. If you disagree, you're in complete denial.
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>finally forced myself to watch the entire song in Face the Music

This is some advanced level cringe. WOW. It makes the crush admitting from Starcrushed look like a cakewalk.
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>>90359942
>this was used to contrast Marco and Star talking the same thing at the exact same time after they return from the Blood Moon Ball
A cruel Nefcy reigns.
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I'm starting to believe that Tomco or Starckie might be a thing after all.
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>>90359582
And it took adventure Time 8 seasons to get rid of a single arm
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>>90359709
Well the creator is a woman with a cuck fetish, i wonder if Nefcy's fantasy is watch his beaner husband fucking the real life Jackie
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Day 3 of cannot letting go of hearing Just Friends and the Princess Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppco2VOxjF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OBlltxgEAU

It was no secret
she's the rebel princess
show me your world
she's the best
and you run out of time
she rocks her narwhal blast and
we will be just friends
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>>90359942
Marco finds out beyond the cool, She's a Ronnie
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>>90359942
You Starcucks sure like to assassinate Jackie's character
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>>90359875
There is plenty of Indian influence on these designs isn't it?
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>>90359931
go stick to some SFW ones like broken
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>>90360050
"a princess under true love spell"
Is he talking metaphorically?
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>>90359991
Goblins are commies?
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>>90359773
Source?
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>>90360083
or better yet, stop embracing shitty ship like Starco
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>>90360068
They try to drag her down to Star's level, the master of fucking up her own character and everything around her.
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>>90359549
Who drew this?
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>>90360068
It's pretty sad that Nefcy is going to have to break up a perfectly healthy couple just to satisfy the Starfags. Jackie is cool though and she'll probably move on
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>>90360119
jackie is pretty cool
but she really needs an episode, all of her episodes were actually marco episodes, if she is to be a serious contender she needs some time for her non marco stuff, just friends is one of the few times we get to see some of her actualy interactions not orbiting marco
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>>90359709
Wow those guys are disgusting. Can't believe people haven't grown up yet.
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>>90360068
>>90360106
>>90360119
t. insecure jarcucks.

Your tears are going to be delicious when they eventually breakup.
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>>90359709
That Souls guys sounds like he should grow up.
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>>90360119
Nefcy seems like a contrarian. to the extent that she thinks about what the fans want, I wouldn't be surprised if she plans the Jarco route while Starco polls the highest, and will only divert to the Starco route if Jarco becomes more popular.
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I hope this show gets a movie.
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>>90360208
I hope Marco touch Jackie booby.
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>>90360232
>implying he hasn't already
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>>90360147
It's sad that even though she actually won the Marcobowl I can't think of an episode premise for a "Jackie episode". Something about a...skateboard? Maybe an episode where she taught Marco how to skateboard, like how Marco taught Star how to ride a bike?

This is clearly just me being inconsiderate towards this girl whose existence threatens my ship, but try as I might I can't conjure up a Jackie thing to exploit for an episode. So Jackie fans, if you're tasked to write an episode exploring Jackie (be it in the context of her character or her relationship with someone), what would you write?

I'm sure you see more in her than I do.
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>>90360183
>>90360190
Even if they share my opinions these "Twitter owns" just makes me feel bad for everyone involved.
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Manna is endgame
Janna is beautiful ...you can't deny that
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>>90360255
She is worse than Star.
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>>90360255
Janna is too beautiful for Marco. She should be with someone good, like...Toffee.
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>>90360244
>if you're tasked to write an episode exploring Jackie
>exploring Jackie
Oh, I can write about it alright.
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>>90359993
I've been under the assumption that a big part of Star's character arc is understanding that she can't have everything she wants. Coming to the realization that she can never have Marco, in my opinion, would be a great way to develop her character.
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Reminder that Nefcy all but confirmed that Marco is Mars, and Star is Venus with Oscar's Keyboard.

>Oscar: You think maybe it will end up on Mars?

Proceeds to drop on Marco's house

>Marco is both an Italian and Spanish name. It derives from the Latin Markus, which in turn derives from Mars, the Roman god of war; "warring" is the meaning of the name Marco. Red is the color associated with the god of war--the planet Mars was so named because of its red color, resembling blood.
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>>90359993
this comic is chris-chan level of shit
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>>90360297
BUT MUH SHIP!
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>>90360255
SLOW AND STEADY.
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>opening post is shipping garbage


You fucking no better than that. Don't let me catch you doing this shit again.
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>>90360313
What can you expect of Starcucks? They throw a bitch-fit when their ship is threatened, which is all the time since it isn't canon since the show started.
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>>90359993
Didn't realize anomalyah had a new thing

instantly refuted by the live chat, but hey, you can't listen to everything
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>>90360306
>Star is Venus
Does it mean that she'll give Marco a Venereal disease?
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>>90360297
THIS, I've never seen a cartoon,at least don't remember one, with a moral law so mature as this, it would be great
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>>90360297
Agreed
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>>90360327
>mommy please make them stop shitting on Starco
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>>90360297
Her character arc is learning that her actions have consequences, not that she can't have what she wants.
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>>90360327
*know
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>>90360335
The only Starcofags to throw bitchfits are those on the same level as Jarcofags - i.e. the people unable to understand how stories work or see what's coming.
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>>90360306
Yeah, it's more likely that Oskar is gonna end up with Marco instead of that retarded theory of yours.
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>>90360297
>Star learned that Jackie fits Marco better and that he should be with some Earth person
>Eventually got over her crush
>Marco started having a crush on this Star
There, we can fill up to season seven with this kind of shit
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>>90360335
I mean, what do you expect? They like a character who overreacts when there's something she can't have.
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>>90360359
Which is basically all of them.
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>>90360306
>Star's Venus
But we already knew Star was a slut.
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>>90360327
Just try and stop me fagtron
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>>90360306
>Star is Venus
Botticelli's Star when?
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>>90360352
So far Star's character arc was 'I constantly fuck the shit up and people get hurt because of me'.
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>>90360208
It would be cool, but realistically speaking, there's 0% chance of happening.
When was the last time a show got a movie?
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>>90360364
Add some occasional cuckening and we can call it a ten seasons at least.
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>>90360389
exactly, she keeps doing stuff because she thinks one step ahead and it seems solid, but then it quickly spirals out of control for her
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>>90360337
Yeah. let's not listen to the showrunners and focus instead on a fancomic from a buttmad shipper because it aligns with muh ship. Nevermind the fact that Marco would act out of character and make him act like a jerk, uproot his life toward uncertainty and leave behind his family and friends and girlfriend without explanation.

Yeah, let's turn Marco into an inconsiderate jerk instead of the person that Star fell in love with, that should work.
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>>90360370
Most Starco fans rarely post, only lurk. Me for example.
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>>90360389
Yeah, screwing up her life and those of others has been a common theme so far.
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>>90360297
Dam this would be a very good lesson for kids. Too bad that they'll eventually pander to the fandom which is like 90% Starco
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>When you realise you are about to be the cucked one
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>>90360415
so will her relantionships
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>>90360368
I thought this was a joke. Are the other facebook edits real too?
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Damn, Starcucks are easily triggered. But its understandable since the main focus of their ship is a big whiny baby.
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>>90360412
>occasional cuckening
No way, man, by S5 no way Nefcy can't put a hold on all her cuckqueaning fantasies

By S6 they'll start incorporating Nefcy's husband's fetishes which is sex in the missionary position while holding hands.
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>>90360432
>when you realize starfags try to move the cuck despite Marco and Jackie still canonically being together.
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>>90360417
Too busy enjoying being cucked, all of us
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>>90359721
kek
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>>90360444
ouch
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>>90360376
Venus is equal to Greek's Aphrodite, who descends from Babylonian Astarte, whose priestess were literal sluts.
And, btw, LOOK AT THIS STATUE OF ASTARTE. On her head, specifically.
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>>90360446
Sir, this is a wholesome, Christian imageboard
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>>90360470
Clearly the statue maker here had a bellybutton fetish
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>>90360417
>almost every thread is dominated by Starcofags, cute and perfect shit, posting area's trash, discussion on how Jarco will end and Starco will begin, or merciless attacks on anybody mentioning Jarco in a positive way

Yeah, okay.
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>>90360482
Have you heard of this thing called 'vocal minority'?

It's when an Indian's got perfect pitch
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>>90360255
>Last episode
>Star is getting her make-up done
>Marco comes in
>"You know, you shouldn't be seeing me before the reception."
>"Just wanted to see my best friend one last time before I go through with this."
>"Well, Mr. Diaz, I think you're due at the podium."
>"I guess I'll see you out there."
>Marco is gazing happily as his bride is escorted down the aisle
>Marco takes off veil
>It's Janna
>Shot pans to show Star as her bridesmaid
>Series ends as Marco and Janna consummate their marriage
>"I THINK EARTH IS REAL FUCKING GRE-EAT PLACE!"
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>>90360463
>move the cuck
This is essentially Nefcy's goal, though, so clearly they're just being good Nefcites
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>>90360491
>starcofags are the minority

Son....... I think you should sit down
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>yfw you realize Star accidentally guilt-tripped Marco and put him on the spot (in front of the crowd and his girlfriend) and left without explaining things
>yfw Marco will probably blame himself for Star leaving and at the same time making him the talk of the town, and making Jackie suspicious of him and his relationship with Star.

Even when fucking off, she fucks everything up.
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>>90360444
It's as real as you want it to be, anon.
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Does anybody else legitimately think that the blood moon is actually something evil or some type of curse?
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>>90360504
You've misread my post.
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I hope Star confesses properly next time. In fact an entire episode is built around her confessing. Her and Marco alone, where she pours her heart out to him, and listing all the things that she loves about him and at the end Marco says, "I love, Jackie."

Just like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YzkNh9Wm4s
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>>90360517
it is just a red herring
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>Starco eventually happens
>they break up because they don't do well as lovers and are better as friends
Would they be crazy enough to do it?
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>>90360463
>thinking jarco is endgame
Jarcucks really are deluded.
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>>90360517
>Does anyone else think the centerpiece of the greatest demon holiday that occurs once every 667th years might be evil
Nah it's probably fine
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>>90360517
Yep

>The idea of a "blood moon" serving as an omen of the coming of the end times comes from the Book of Joel, where it is written "the sun(Star) will turn into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes."
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>>90359709
That guy is actually cringey.
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>>90360517
oh no, Star and Marco is doomed to be bound forever, and

>>90360543
when Starco happens things actually will go into even deeper shit
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>>90360520
No I didn't. Under the context of what we were discussing, there was no conclusion to be drawn other that it appearing as though you were implying that Starcofags were the vocal minority. That's not true at all. If that's not what you meant, then you should have been more clear.
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>'Cause she's a rebel princess, she's the best
>She's a ball of lightning in a hot pink dress
>She's a thunderstorm roaring through the night
>She's our shooting Star, and she's lighting up the sky!
What hot pink dress?
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Janna is having self-esteem issues. You mind cheering her up, /co/?
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>>90360533
>Nefcy isn't a complete hack

Yes.
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>>90359825
What is this madness?
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>>90360587
You're not even involved in any actual canon Marcobowling. Fuck off and enjoy your single life.
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>>90360587
I'd buy your guac bowl, Janna.
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>>90359709
These idiots keep taking the bait so Souls just keeps going. Libs lost the meme war for a reason
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>>90360594
Two autistic fandoms combined into one horror.
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>>90360575
Not the same guy, but yes, you have misread.

He was implying that the Starcofags posting this stuff are the vocal minority among Starcofags. The vast majority are just your average member of the fanbase. Which is true, the vast vast VAST majority of Star Vs fanbase are Starcofags.

Hell, I don't even consider myself a shipper, but people would probably call me Starcofag simply because I find it obvious that this is the direction of the show.
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>>90360517
>has blood in the name
>blood moon, a bad omen in biblical times
>667, a reference to the number of the Beast
Demons dance to it, but let's disregard that since Tom is a good friend. However, Tom did try to use it to make her and Star bonded for all eternity. This would be fine as a recurring theme of "red string of fate" found in other animu, but it isn't like this in the show since it is actively fucking things over as it comes around to fuck over Marco's date with Jackie makes it very interfering in the lives of the souls it has bonded. It's saying like "you can only do this with her/him, or else!"

And finally, it denies Star and Marco the agency to choose for themselves who they want to be with, because forever fucked to be together what. What? Aren't them loving each other naturally enough? Why force the eternal bond by a mystical blood moon. The show has this on-going theme of Star's choices, choosing things by her own will, and the blood moon run counters to that.

That's why its seen as a curse and at the very least evil.
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>>90360587
Janna is super cute and deserves to be with Marco!
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>>90360624
Janna's brand of wild is too much for Marco
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>>90360587
It's ok Janna, you can always be a sidepiece and raise Marco's bastard children
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>>90360517
Some rabid shippers have convinced themselves of this, yes.

I don't know if you'd call that 'believing', but it's close enough.
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>>90360585
He's talking about Marco, anon. The true rebel princess, the real princess that brought about a revolution.
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>>90360639
>raise Marco's bastard children
What, that'll take away from Star's share of cuckqueaning

Wait, would that be a double-layered cuckening? Have you stumbled upon a new level of cuckening?
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>>90360517
What kind of evil would it be if Tom's plan was to get it with Star?
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>>90360533
>>90360593
>Starco happens but it ends in a bitter divorce
>Marco ends up with Janna
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>>90360585
Blood Moon Ball's
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>>90360670
>what kind of evil would it be if a devil try to use it for his own gains?
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>>90360585
>What hot pink dress?
She must have gone into detail about it with Ruberiot
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>Star left without fixing the roof
Come on now. That's just rude.
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>>90360705
>yfw she probably wouldn't shut the fuck about Marco all the while
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>>90360533
That'd need at least two seasons, wouldn't it?

one season to move from jarco to Starco, then to discover that they're better as friends.

If the break up is the series finale, though, damn
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>>90360506
I wish I had that kind of girl in in my life. The one to constantly fuck my shit up in a most action-based way. And doing that so hard that if we even break up it would fucking go down like nuclear explosion fuck up

Other types of women get fucking boring in about 6-8 months, because there's nothing interesting going on with them. And when I myself try to spice things up, almost no one of them wants it. They only spend fucking money (trying get mine too) on themselves and on expensive unneeded things, while doing literally nothing interesting
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>>90360701
Well, he wanted Star, so if the curse was evil, what could it be so that it wouldn't also endager Tom?
Unless even he didn't know the details and just went for the tied by fate part
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>>90360721
>she didn't even care that her lust for Marco came out and just let it flow
>Ruberiot probably got multiple erections for watching Star's knees tremble with erotic thoughts
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>>90360731
sounds like it would cause digimon tier whiplash
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>>90360721
>Ruberiot asked Star what's this about the blood moon
>Star explained all about the dance, how Marco 'saves' her from Tom, how silly Marco is to be jealous of Tom, how handsome Marco was under that crimson illumination, how she felt just right as Marco revealed his identity
>Ruberiot said, "Ah, so Marco is your-"
>"My best friend, yeah!"
>Ruberiot looked down on his notes, then looked up at Star, still going on about Marco
>wrote down "Princess Star is totally wet for her best friend"
>"Princess Star, I have an idea, and it'll require some fountains."
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>>90360772
kek
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>>90360616
Again, didn't "misread" anything. If that was his intent, then he didn't do a good job at conveying it. All it led mean to believe was that he was implying that Starcofags are the vocal minority. If he was trying to say "the vocal minority OF Starcofags", he should have been clearer.

That being said, the majority of people who post about svtfoe anywhere, not just here, tend to be Starcofags. Any time there's a live chat. Every other comment is Starco related or just says "starco". Tumblr's starco tag by far has the most posts. Tweets to the crew etc.

I can't really say that the majority of Starcofags are silent, because if they were, they wouldn't be true Starcofags. They'd just be fans of the show who like the Star and Marco together but don't care enough to post. In that way, every fandom has those types of people. How they feel doesn't matter, because they aren't making themselves known anyway.

Kinda like the old saying of you don't have a right to complain about the president, if you didn't vote in the first place.
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>>90360705
>blood moon's light comeS out of the ceiling
>ceiling has a carving of a hand and in the middle of its palm is a crystal where the light of the blood moon comes out
>Toffee!Ludo has a magical crystal in the palm of his hand and wants to get his finger back

AWWWWWWW SSSSSSHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIITTTTT!!
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>>90360705
>>90360786
n-nani
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>>90360772
>I think we all know it

I think he was just fucking with Star at that point
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>>90360731
They can live happily ever after as eternal best friends, it doesn't have to be negative
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>>90360772
>>90360777
Fucking hilarious how he just decided "yeah i should totally reveal she has a crush on her best friend"
Extra points for the fact he just realized it by himself in that short period of time
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>>90360786
Dam
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>>90360777
WET
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>>90360786
Do you remember Witcher 3 quest named 'Last Wish' or something? When Yennefer and Geralt came to jinn and make him to undo the spell of love casted onto them?
I wonder if SvtFoE will pull the same trick.
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>>90360767
For Digimon II-tier ending whiplash, there needs to be something more. There are disappointments coming from multiple ships (Tai/Matt/Sora, Takeru/Hikari) on that one. And also because it was a lame ending.

I bet Jarcofags won't wail and whine when their ship sinks, or Tomcofags or Marcopoofags or whatever. The only ones who'll be crying are the Starcofags. And that's not enough for Digimon-tier whiplash.

At best it'll be a The Last-tier Hall of Anal Devastation.
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>>90360786
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>90360814
I think he legitimately thought they were a thing
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>>90360814
star probably talked at great length about how great marco was and how he was her best friend, and ruberiot isnt blind so he caught on pretty quickly

he probably thought he was doing star a favor by doing so, not having the whole story

he is a lot like star, a rebel who wants to do things his own way but doesn't think things through very much
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>>90360855
IS DARON THE KUBO OF CHILDREN'S CARTOON
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>>90360537
It's a shame Green is bad in this show. I guess that's why Jackie and Star wear so much of it.
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>>90360872
What is Daron's THE HEART?
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>>90360872
Not yet, Daron still has to get a rescue arc going.
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>>90360859
well, star probably didnt say it, she wont say shes in love

but ruberiot probably thought what the fans thought, that they were into each other, they were cute, and they just need a little push to get them to realize it
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if they want to capitalize on the relationship drama they should do more posters like this

bring me dem delicious dramatic teens
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>>90360786
DEEPEST
LORE
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>>90360844
>Marco goes to Tom to ask how to kill the moon
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>yfw this show goes full NGE

Minus EoE of course
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>>90359691
>>90359936

You feel it too don't you?
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>>90360786
interesting, when he gets his finger the crystal will turn red ?
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>>90360902
>ruberiot probably thought what the fans thought
the who
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>>90360912
>not going full tumbling down
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>>90360917
He'll also grow an extra finger.
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>>90360902
He does specifically say

>I think we all know it
Pointing out how she's shit at hiding feelings, but Marco is Marco
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>>90360872
Nah, she still has both her eyes.
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>>90360902
IF THERE'S A PRIZE FOR ROTTEN JUDGEMENT
I GUESS I'VE ALREADY WON THAT
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>>90360917
>>90360786
What I want to know is how Toffee knew that the Wand would split into two after it blew itself up. Has this happened before?
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>>90360917
>Hand in the ceiling has 5 fingers
>Every character in the show has 4 fingers
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>>90360786
>Nefcy WANTS us to ship Starco because that's the whole point of the antagonist of the story

>the force compelling Marco and Star to be together IS the Forces of Evil

Nefcy is playing us like a motherfucking fiddle.
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>>90360944
His finger was cleaving it apart from the INSIDE!
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>>90360949
Well, Glossaryck has 6
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>>90360807
>>90360936
>I think we all know it
Who's this 'we' Ruberiot is referring to? A fourth-wall-breaking wink? Anyone who knew Star?
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>>90360962
Glossaryck is irrelevant, he can have as much fingers as he wants.
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>>90360928
>ToffeeLudo collects all the magic in the universe
>He tries to convince star that she will be united with everyone she knew on Earth and every other dimension. And that she will be forever united with Marco
>All the magical essence in people is Dark Green like tang as people's bodies and fly into Ludo
>Trippy shit where star realizes "Earth was pretty great afterall" and what she did mattered
>Dips Down out of Toffee
>Goes full EoE Asuka happy fighting
>????
>Profit
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>>90360786
NANDESTE
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>>90360912
>>90360951
>I want Marco...
>GIVE HIM BACK
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>>90360970
Omni has 5 or 6 too
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>>90360964
I just find it funnier to believe it was a 4th wall break
>"it's the end of season 2 and we all know it already, so let's just say it already"
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>>90360951
>Nefcy equated Toffee's thirst for power with Starcofags' thirst for canon
>Toffee manipulated everyone and rob them of their agency, isn't that what you're doing, Starcofags?
>Toffee is destructive to everyone he met, Starco ruins Star and Marco
>Last scene is just Nefcy writing down on a piece of paper:
>Y'ALL BAD
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>>90360964
People with common sense

I like to think the guy though Star was hiding her relationship from the kingdom
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>>90359709

I'm gonna regret asking, but what the hell is going on here? I just wandered in the thread to see what the show's about.
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>>90360951
She convinced you guys (you convinced yourself, really) that it was nigh guaranteed before the show even started, and then she doesn't do it at all. The show itself is some sort of meta-rebellion against the concept of shipping. Everyone thinks Marco should be with Star except Marco.
The absolute madlad
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>>90360997
>Shinji/Rei never

REEEEEEEEE!!!
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>>90360951
STARCO BTFO
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https://twitter.com/DaronNefcy/status/837193023779852290

Daron "Killer Kat" Nefcy says: "Tell the Disney stores!"

I forgot the creators have no control over merch production
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>>90360982
>Star rejects Toffee's assimilation plot, not wanting Marco if he is shared by everyone else as well, as she wants all of Marco for herself
>it is her selfishness that saves the day
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>>90360997
>>>Rebuilds

yfw Tom stops the world from ending with Demon Magic
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>>90360917
Does the episode ever show the full bottom pick of hand, and surrounding star?
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>>90360912
>yfw this goes Rebuild with full Mari StarFan13
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>>90361002
Holy shit. Weren't people shipping Starco EVEN BEFORE THE SHOW STARTED?

Oh my fuck....
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>>90360912
>"Star Butterfly? No, I'm Star Shikinami."
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>>90360997
>yfw Star's butterfly wings is that of a seraphim
How many wings are there in her Butterfly form anyway?
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>>90361052
Depends on the scene

Is she an angel or is she making a cross?
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>>90360949
HACK
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>>90360951
I can't take much more of Nefcy's shit
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>>90361041
>the hand is surrounded by a star
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
What if the show ends with Star doing some kind of magic to make it so that Marco forgets about her so that he can enjoy the rest of his days with Jackie?

What if that's only the season finale, and Season Four involves Star having to live with the consequences after her plan backfires and Marco can't remember anybody?
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>>90360917
Yes, wand transforms depending whose holding it
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>>90361052
The Dies Irae theory explains that to anon in that Star/Moon are Lilith or Female demons.

>Lilith is listed as one of the Qliphoth, corresponding to the Sephirah Malkuth in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life.

>The demon Lilith, the evil woman, is described as a beautiful woman, who transforms into a blue, butterfly-like demon, and it is associated with the power of seduction.

>The Qliphah is the unbalanced power of a Sephirah. Malkuth is the lowest Sephirah, the realm of the earth, into which all the divine energy flows, and in which the divine plan is worked out. However, its unbalanced form is as Lilith, the seductress.

>The material world, and all of its pleasures, is the ultimate seductress, and can lead to materialism unbalanced by the spirituality of the higher spheres. This ultimately leads to a descent into animal consciousness.

>The balance must therefore be found between Malkuth and Kether, to find order and harmony.

>Lilith is viewed as the embodiment of the Goddess, a designation that is thought to be shared with what these faiths believe to be her counterparts one of which is Ishtar
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>>90361025
>Rei
>being a person

Bothered the shit out of me in 2.0
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>>90361052
I cannot believe in a Disney show for kids it takes only five episodes before the story is about the female character getting in heat.
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>>90361025
Anno was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIiA9AuoLU

>>90361052
Two wings with six segments, but she's not mature.
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>>90361091
You made me think the series doesn't have an amnesia episode yet
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>>90359623
>>90359549
What's wrong with star in these pics? Is this after she gets a lobotomy from Toffee and Marco has to watch over her like a retarded child?
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>>90361105
Thanks for helping explain End of Evangelion a bit more
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>>90360951
Imagine Star and Marco, fighting together, against...Starco.

That's fucked up.
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>>90361031
This never worked for Gravity Falls. Contrary to popular belief Shawnqeuesha isnt going to report when someone came into the store asking for merchandise that doesnt exist. They barely care to restock existing merch that sold out.
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>>90361046
yup, it is probably the longest running aspect of the show as far as the fans are concerned
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>>90360917
>>90361041
>>90361090
Star's necklace has that eye on that hand pic, and here is something Nefcy drew maybe season 3?
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>>90361091
She sacrifices her love for Marco to save Marco. Season 4 is her falling in love with him all over again.
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>>90359709

>Trying this hard

When they send their NEETs, they aren't sending their best!
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>>90361125
Anno sold out man

He's milking the series he poured his soul into. It's kinda disgusting
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>>90361024
Seriously, I always thought the Blood Moon Ball was a Red Herring because the moment they mentioned it was a soul binding ceremony and Marco and Star JUST HAPPEN partake in it was just too fucking obvious. Anyone who thought it wasn't a deception was kidding themselves
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>>90361152
At least he's happier making it than he was NGE.

I...think.
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>>90361147
Nefcy has an eye fetish, she's got three-eyed shit all over her old comics.
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>>90360237
He barely can get a kiss in the cheek in his backyard with his girlfriend.
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>>90361131
>Star and Marco fights the cartoon representation of Starco shipping, the Blood Moon
>ship captain voice keeps telling them to stop because he wants to FORCE them together regardless of their choices
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>>90359993
>Starco 1000% endgame
Oh sweetie... hmmm no sweetie no. You lost. That's really embarrassing, isn't it?
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>>90360917
>>90361147
I wonder if it has connections to this pic, also top left is what Star sometimes where's a necklace of. Whats it all mean?
>>
Post some short haired Star
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>>90360352
The two things are intertwined.
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>>90360941
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.
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>>90361038
He barely managed to revive one dead person
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>>90361156
not a coincidence, marco was brought there by a strange voice, and star was immediately entranced when it started

something brought them there and they were destined to dance, come hell or high water
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>tfw Demon Star episode never
>no AU where she broke up with Prince Tom of Mewni for being a clingy elitist weirdo
>no Doomberty where she goes all hideous and man-crazy like Callie in Treegasm
>no episode where Hekapoo teases her about her growing crush on Marco
>no existential crisis that a hardcore demon like her enjoys Love Sentence albums
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>>90361165
Well he isn't suicidal as fuck anymore, he did test to see if he wanted to kill himself after NGE by standing on the top of a Gianax building and concluded he wanted to live

I think that's where a good amount of the raw emotion has been lost in this series.
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>>90361180
>NO!!! You were supposed to be...lovers! Perfect partners for all eternity! You are meant to be!!!
>No, Ship Captain, we are not! We are perfectly okay with being friends! Aren't we, Star?
>We are, Marco! Let's do it, let's show him...our strongest move!
>SEKIHA PURE PLATONIC TENKYOKEN
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>>90360470
>ASTARTE
>not posting the best one

I cato sicarius will help you see the errors of your ways
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>>90361085
You know you can and even want more of it
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>>90361230
top kek
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>>90361152
>Implying

Watch Anno's interviews, NGE was the result of depression and jam packing as much random religious symbolism as he could. He just managed to hit the meta jackpot and condense all of it into a hit that actually fucked Gainax in the end because they expected it to flop so they could use it for a tax break.
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>>90361195
Marco's old name was Sol fyi
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>>90361147
Sergey Sobachkin, you're making the Mother Russia look weak. Get your shit toghether, man.
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>>90360912
>That episode where Toffee induces Mewberty in Star and she rapes Marco to death
Man, didn't see that coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdy3nJQvVA
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>>90361245
What

Originally the show was to star Star and her best friend, Sol?

That's hacky as fuck
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>>90361234
They're 'Adepts of Astarte', not Astarte herself.
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>>90361276
Don't be ridiculous, proto-Star didn't have any friends.
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>>90361156
>red herring

I don't think you understand what that term means.

So far, the show seems headed in a direction where the blood moon is right. Basically everything going on smacks you over the head with the idea that you should be invested in Star and Marco getting together and that it's gonna happen.

I don't think it was even a soul binding thing, it was just shining down on the two people with the most excellent relationship. After that, it's just a visual indicator of the bond between Marco and Star; the right light is there when you or they are meant to be thinking about them.
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>>90361091
>the cuck queen hears you

Don't you fucking dare
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>>90360917
>>90361195
>>90361240
Guys..is that a spade on the top?
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>>90361230
The sad thing is, even if they went this god-tier writing route, it would be lost on like 70% of the target audience.
>>90361276
Proto-star had no friends.
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>>90361276
they were rivals, one a sailor moon fangirl and the other a DBZ fanboy
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>>90361264
Man, remember that super dark episode in S4 where Star masturbated to a comatose Marco?

Fucked up, dunno what Nefcy was thinking
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>>90361276
>Sol is sun
>Her mom is Moon
WHO ELSE IS IN THEIR CELESTIAL GROUP?
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>>90361302
it was so fucked up
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>>90360297
It would, but it would also be fatally painful
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>>90361292
IT'S A SEASHELL
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>>90361129
>In EoE Lilith are humans
>Adam is the bad guy invading earth
This makes no sense because nowhere is it established that Genesis was any different in their universe. You cant even explain it as just being arbitrary names referencing religion because the Angels use it and it's prophesied in the dead sea scrolls. This implies a massive Jewish conspiracy going back millions of years.
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>>90361091
Even better if the amnesia spell was absolutely necessary, maybe to prevent possession by Toffee or something, and that undoing it would actually doom Marco.

S4 is then about Star finding a new friend, another new friend, before she sacrificed herself to save Marco's granddad from radiation poisoning.

wait, sorry, I was thinking of Doctor Who
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>>90361244
>yfw Daron goes full depression
>Starcoshippers demand her to make Starco canon immediately
>people expect more of her because how much the series slowly delivered since the first season
>pressure starts building to top season 2 begins
>Daron has a mental breakdown
>series goes into hiatus in the middle of the season
>Daron returns by going full Anno on the series
>fucks over everyone
>tumbling down tumbling down
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>>90361234
>Cat of Sickness
>still relevant now that GW has returned ROBOT GULLYMAN to the fray

plz Cato, stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>90361276
>Marco was going to be the kid obsessed with Dragon Ball Z, which is kind of where the karate thing came in. He actually had a different name, too, originally his name was Sol, because I liked that she was Star and he was Sol like the sun, I thought that was cute.

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/25/get-a-little-weird-and-wild-with-daron-nefcys-star-vs-the-forces/
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>>90361323
>Jackie's symbol is a seashell
>yfw the blood moon is supposed to make a harem out of the two bonded souls.
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>>90361334
>Years later, Nefcy returns
>creates a mini-series called "Sun vs. The Forces of Darkness"
>star an absolute copy of Star and an absolute copy of Marco, but doesn't at all refer to SvtFoE
>meant to be a short 4-episode miniseries, a light work to start Nefcy's reintroduction
>hiatus in episode 3
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>>90361302
Is Nefcy enough of a madwoman to try to get away with implying something like that?
In Season 1 we got Star going into heat and Marco calling Tom a "predator", Season 2 we get kissing gays/lesbians, "Italian kissing", a "kissing hole" and Mr. Diaz thinking Marco knocked up Star.
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
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>>90361328
Eh it's not supposed be true to but the Tree of life is something Lilith takes into her body, Rei's blue hair(?), and becoming the person he liked most (Kaworu)
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>>90361302
>dat episode where Marco and Star has to dance in sync to defeat a badguy
Best episode in the season before the show became too dark and edgy.
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>>90361323
That's clearly a skull
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>>90361152
He literally has no idea what he's doing with (4.0) Youi
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>>90361384
yeah, I remember when that episode aired and I thought "Oh, these two fundamentally flawed teenagers are going to solve their problems together and not fall into some sort of depressive breakdown!"

i was naive
>>
>>90361292
>>90361323
I think it's skull, you can just barely see two lines at the top edge of the pic that would be the eye sockets.
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>>90361365
>Doesn't refer to at all

We're getting some "Glossaric remebers" shit
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>>90361366
>and Mr. Diaz thinking Marco knocked up Star.
He was embarassed that Marco didn't do it. Now Rafael probably thinks that his only son is gay.
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>>90360076
Indian, or just literal Butterflies.

Pick one
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>>90361384
Where's that comparison pic with Shinji/Asuka and Star/Marco brushing their teeth in synch
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>>90361365
>Star Zero becomes more of a hit than the actual series
>Causes a divide in the fandom between prequelfags and mainseriesfags
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>>90361292
>>90361323
OH SHIT.

SEASHELL.

AND THOSE THREE SPIKY THINGS? SORT OF LIKE VAMPIRE FANGS, WHICH IS WHAT JANNA HAD ONCE.

AND I BET THAT THING ON THE RIGHT IS A STAR.

AND THAT WEIRD SEMICIRCLE THING WITH A TONGUE STICKING OUT IS CLEARLY A DIMENSIONAL PORTAL, THE PLAYFUL TONGUE APPEARING THROUGH IT REPRESENTING HEKAPOO.

CLEARLY THE HAND REPRESENTS MARCO AND HIS ABILITY TO SMACK BITCHES UP WITH HIS KARATE SKILLS.

IT'S OVER LADS, HAREM END C O N F I R M E D.
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>>90361397
Didn't you see the ending where they are the last two humans on earth and the MC strangled the Girl (again) until she caressed his face and the MC broke down into tears.

They're good
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>>90361417
it's a skull you dummy
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>>90361292
>>90361417
>falling for half baked and meaningless "symbolism"
Its like you didnt even watch Gravity Falls
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>>90361415
>Star: Zero
>it's how Moon became Queen and how much more she suffered than Star
>only Star appearance is an adaptation of one of the comics and at the end where Star is born
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>>90361441
>Comparing this to a show that didn't want a 3rd season

Get out
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>>90361404
IF IT IS A SKULL THEN STARCO WAS DEAD SINCE THE BEGINING
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>>90361366
>How deep does the rabbit hole go?
I hope Jackie will flash her boobs in S3.
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>>90361415
>Spinoff featuring a weird girl who breaks lock and had interest in the occult, named "Jenny"
>Super cute spin-off show with Jenny and her female best friend who's dark-coloured and kinda slutty
>Nefcy tweeted "We've got a movie, guys!"
>It's about Star using the butterfly sword to fight Toffee.
>Nefcy tweeted "I REMEMBER. I REMEMBER YOUR DELICIOUS TEARS"
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>>90360587
Isnt Janna a lesbian
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>>90361415
>Fate/Star Night
>Starfan13 turns out to be best girl
>Stuck in Janna's route
It hurts
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>>90361457
Then a box of toothpicks are used to hide marco's penis
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>>90361408
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>>90361465
kek, can't zero the shirou
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>>90361128
honestly I agree, she looks totally gone in these images, otherwise I'd find them way cute
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The lack of self-awareness Star has is absolutely staggering at times.
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>>90361454
>show that didn't want a 3rd season
Story?
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If Ponyhead knew about Star's crush then why didn't she tell her to tell the truth in Sleepover?
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>>90361480
>It's a Marco finds Hekapoo doing a weakened Star sex scene
>It's a Marco jackhammers Hekapoo sex scene
>It's a Yandere Janna contempletes breaking your legs and fucking you senseless pre-sex scene
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>>90361505
Disney XD offered one but Hirsh said no last second

Many delays later we got the finale
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>>90361128
Is this Nefcy's art?
...Is she well?
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>>90359709
>you non ironically retweeted a completely valid news source
Starcuck confirmed endgame
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>Nefcy: "Of course Starco existed before the show began. WHO DO YOU THINK PLANTED THE SEED?"

She's playing us like a harp from hell.
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>>90361502
This is unironically a good message

People don't want to know how fucked up your life is
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>>90361480
>Star the wormslut
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>>90361527
When did she say this?
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>>90361468
yes
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>>90361480
>I ASK OF YOU, ART THOU MY HOMBRE?
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>>90361522
It's from 2014 on Halloween. It's normal-ish
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>>90361511
Maybe back then it wasn't that obvious
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>>90361502
>Mewnians just want to believe that their princess stopped being a walking disaster after her time on Earth
Good going, Star.
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>>90361511
It was likely a hunch more so than definitive proof. Add on to that the suddenness of things going wrong during the sleepover and it's reasonable to assume she just didn't think about it in that moment.
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>>90361511
BFFs don't don't out each other's crushes while they're in the same room
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>>90361511
She had a lot on her plate at that exact moment. Like, impending death.
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>>90361537
That was just hypothetical.
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>>90361021
In short, that random guy below is cringeworthy for expressing his opinions (some of those not even wrong) in a fastidious way, some of those members of the crew are cringeworthy for childishly getting provoked and replying to him.
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>>90360912
>Minus EoE of course
Surely you jest.
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Isn't your show on hiatus?
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>>90360912
>>90361601
IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING

IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN

TUMBLING DOWN

TUMBLING DOWN
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>>90361601
>Show with mysterious girl from a distance and the foreigner that lives with MC
>Roles are reversed

This picture bothers me
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>>90361517
>"As I entered Star, I could feel her insides embracing me like warm cinnamon bun"
What the fuck was Nefcy thinking?
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>Who is the boy in the earthly attire?
>The prince of the princess's deepest desire
This sounded so fucking lewd
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>>90361511
She wanted Marco for herself
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>>90361617
post week discussion. We literally just had the recent episode.
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>>90361617
Yes, but we aren't a general :^)
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>>90361517
>>90361628
>Hekapoo's ass was a great nightmare
>constant references to mollusk
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>>90361617
No, we're just being cucked for a couple of months
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> Star's Halloween costume of Ludo had a lizards tail

He doesn't have one normally, does he? Was this advanced foreshadowing?
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>>90361642
Get ready for /trash/, then.
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>>90361628
Same with Marco thinking about wanting Janna to get raped.
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>>90361628
I need a link to that shit immediately
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>>90361669
We aren't cancer like you fags are now at least. The show became trash
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>>90361628
>>90361658
>Star was a like an educated prostitute
Holy shit, Nefcy.
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>>90361661
Sounds like a hiatus to me.
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>>90361669
k
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>>90361668
JESUS CHRIST
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>>90361669
>but the bin is full with your show right now
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>>90361649
This. We're just a normal thread that pops up a lot because its popular. At least it doesn't take up the entire board.

We're not a general. We don't want to trigger certain people with certain biases now.
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>>90361502
Not only that but Star failed to realize that as the future leader of Mewni, she can't show the people what she's really like, he has to put on a brave and confident face at all times because she's destined to be a leader and leaders cann't reveal their flaws less they shake the confidence of the people.
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>>90361021
>>90361600
By the way, the show is about a magical princess from another dimension getting sent to Earth to learn using her magic.
It's mostly about fun and friendship, but later on it starts developing an interesting plot.
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>>90361668
I'm done
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>>90361668
>>90361715
This rabbit hole is fucking bottomless
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>All this Evangelion stuff

Is the show worth a watch? Also sub or dub, I'm not a fan of reading but older shows really screwed up with subs it sounds like
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Disregarding /sug/, let's talk about Season Three. When do you guys think we'll be getting an announcement on when that comes out?
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>>90361761
it's an /a/ classic. It's worth a shot.
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>>90361725
Join us in hiatus land.
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>>90361761

dub is good, the show itself is alright. I love Asuka though.
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>>90361769
They've mentioned sometime this summer and that they were prettt far in devolpement. It'll be shorter than 1-2's break

August is my guess for the episode
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>>90361769
I'm thinking S3 will air around July, but supposed to be for June.
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>>90360944

He knows how the wands work.

He knows the whisper spell, something only known within the family.

The only question is whether he's Eclipsa's son or apprentice.
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>>90361761
Most people consider it good, but I personally hate it. But it's just because of personal tastes - I find it too depressing and mindfucking in a bad way
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>>90361628
>Chauncey found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser that the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water.
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>>90361761
Eh, your mileage may vary on if it's good or not, but it's worth taking a look at, at least.
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>>90361761
Evangelion is basically required watching if you want to get into /a/-related anything.
The dub is pretty solid.
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>>90361788
>>90361705
>>90361669
>>90361617
>All these different gems

You're a false flagger aren't you
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>>90361795
Hmm...that sure is a lengthy hiatus.
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>>90361819
yes, i am
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>>90361761
I find Dub Shinji more whiny than Sub Shinji's timidness
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>>90361819
Nah, I'm a solid opalfag, I just like to represent all of the general on different threads.
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>>90361769
SOON
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>>90361617
>>90361788
>>90361669
>>90361705

The difference is that we wait for actually a good show
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>>90361632
She only desires him deep inside her. What's lewd about that?
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>>90361761
Evangelion is a rare case where the dub is better than the original Japanese voice acting. Spike Spencer TRULY captures Shinji's timidness and fear
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>>90361854
>Opal

Well you have good taste
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>>90361854
Oh, so you're autistic.
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Any MEGAs with all the eps?
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>>90361862
That's not a difference, anon.
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>>90361739
Star realizes that and hates it. Her problem is that she doesnt want to be held up to the standards. She doesnt want to have to meet people's expectations of perfection. Its why she didnt want to do the song anyway.
Star has never once showed she cared for her subjects, most of whom live in squalor, so its a non issue for her if this undermines people's respect for her.
She's probably too young and naive to even understand such a concept and doesnt realize how even her mother upholding the image of perfection affects their relationship.
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>>90361878
Thank you anon. You're very kind as compared to the rest of this general.
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>>90361891
Only season 1: https://mega.nz/#F!LJdnGZ5K!6e6Me_NyakO0Ul3jFcZnUw
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>>90361761
The MC takes some getting used to, but he's okay. Despite how much /a/ and /m/ seem to hate on him sometimes, he's actually much less of a wimp then they say.
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>>90361871
I disagree. He does a good job, but he can't match those beautiful screams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZymccwZm4

He also sounds more like a bitch than regular Shinji
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>>90361761
Series is mostly shit but EoE is kino. Just watch the recap movie in EoE, I think its called Death and Rebirth.
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>>90361761
If Marco was the safe kid, then Shinji is fucking Fort Knox levels of safe.
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>>90361930
Shinji is a character men will never understand
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>>90361884
Arent we all autistic though? I mean we're on /co/ talking about the adventures of little princess girl and a boy, or in my case: super cool alien ladies.
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>>90361905
>yfw Star is forced to meet Marco's expectations of her
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>>90361632
I mean, not only does he reveal the princess' "secret" crush, he stated the crush was backed by really lewd feelings.

It's like he's thinking to himself, "Now, how do I make ABSOLUTELY SURE I get executed?"
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>>90361961
nothing against shinji, he is actually quite badass

I just prefer more professional pilots like in mechwarrior, who report battle damage like they were reading the newspaper
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>>90361976
Marco is a nice guy and has no expectations of Star, he even underestimates her which for some reason made her mad
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>>90361687
>Her lewdness is a great nightmare.
>Her wings are defenseless.
>They flutter every time I move, looking like a second pair of mewbies.
>—Star's wings.
>The most fragile part of her is right in front of me.
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>>90361905
Star's problem is deeper than not wanting to meet the standards of what she thinks is perfection, she simply doesn't want to meet any standards at all. It's a running theme of her character. She refuses to properly address any problems she doesn't like and it's bad enough to the point where she almost destroyed space time.
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>>90361976
I've always thought that was part of the reason why Star liked Marco, actually. He has no big expectations for her, he just sees her for who she is.
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>>90361628
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>>90361986
he is lot like star, a rebel who doesnt want to be a cookie cutter product, so it makes sense that he would have the same short sightedness, all he wanted was to make star happy
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>>90361995
>>90362006
Marco did expect her to act as the bigger person in Game of Flags.
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>>90362000
Fuck, i snorted hard
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>>90361994
Even Amaro got upset and ran away about three times
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>>90361995
Star doesn't want to fail. Unfortunately, just because you don't compete, doesn't mean that will stop other people from judging you anyway.
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>>90361925
Oh hell yes, this is good - thank you anon.

If someone has season 2, please!
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>>90361761
Imagine the first half of TTGL without Kamina and Simon growing a pair
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>>90361995
underestimating star, or otherwise implying she isnt good enough is a rather consistent way to push her buttons

she has come a long way since she arrived on earth, and the poor girl needs someone to recognize that, marco isnt the only one with self esteem issues
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>>90362006
>>90362032
>Marco has no expectations of Star and can jsut chill
>Marco has high expectations of Jackie as the perfect dream girl
It's over, Jarco is finished
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>>90362061
>watching TTGL before Eva
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>>90362070
And yet, Jackie always delivers, while Star constantly shits herself.
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>>90362090
I don't know. It's more acessable to people

GURREN LAGANN IS GOING TO BE TEN YEARS OLD NEXT MONTH. HOLY SHIT
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>>90362070
IF Marco has really high expectations of Jackie, she still hits them, to the point where the normal complaint is that she's too perfect.
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>>90362065
>hates proving to people want her to be good enough to be X
>hates when people think she isnt good enough to do X
Wow, it's like she's a bratty teenage girl.
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>>90361600

Ah, Internet being the Internet as usual. Gotcha. I'll check it out, not much into magical girl stuff unless it has a really good hook like symphogear did
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>>90362070
probanly one of the thibgs I find most endearing about star and marco is hoe natural they act around each other, they work together almost instinctually and have nothing held back when they hang out, they are free to be themeselves
despite being opposites they are incredibly in tune with one another, acting as a complement rather than as obstacles
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>>90361986
And had lots and lots of running water for the backdrop.

If he had been singing about a prince's secret crush, I'm sure there would have been lots of stone pillars going up or something.
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>>90359931
Ah, I think I did the same thing right before the new episodes started airing. Hang in there anon.
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>>90362116
Its been 10 fucking years? Holy shit, it feels fucking timeless. NGE felt kinda dated when it was 10 years old.
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>>90360905
> starcrushed
> star-crossed (lovers)
oh
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>>90361905
>Star has never once showed she cared for her subjects, most of whom live in squalor, so its a non issue for her if this undermines people's respect for her.

She's not incapable of doing so, it's just that you might have to trick her into being a good leader:

https://youtu.be/G3t4r7Gw-Uw?t=21

https://youtu.be/neWpz6ZfTXg?t=122

An easy thing to do is to say "Your mom could do it." There'll be a 50/50 chance of her either bugging out or taking it as an insult and a challenge.
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>>90362094
>>90362118
>>90362143
Maybe the issue us that Star doesnt really expect that much of Marco either, I dont think Marco ever went out of his way to prove something to Star. Jackie might meet Marco's expectations but he's going to feel inadequate himself.
I hope this doesnt happen because stories where the lesser in a relationship always feels he doesnt deserve the other are the worst.
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>>90362166
It's unironically my favorite show. The music, (most of) the characters, the hype

It's the one show I feel like I could watch forever
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Jackie is totally gonna tell Marco to go back to Star as a friend to help her and work things out to keep their relationship alive isn't she?
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>>90362167
Pretty good episode title
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>>90360912
>Ending theme for the last season is "Fly Me To The Moon"
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>>90362197
in sleep spells, he was bummed that star saved him more than he saved her, and he often laments that next to star he is nobody, and yet star speaks highly of marco
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>>90362253
Bacause most of Star's boyfriends would be dead by that time
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>>90362197
Marco actually feels inadequate around Star. In JF he says "I'm just worried with you around, Jackie will realize I'm not as super cool", but doesn't seem to have a problem being with Jackie alone now.
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>>90362318
I guess Im Whackie4Jackie now
>>
https://twitter.com/DisneyXD/status/836999552972570636

STARCO SHIPPERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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Oh shit! He's got a Puerto Rican Credit Card!
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>>90362318
Yeah, 'cause he has spent 16 years with Heckapoo
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>>90362344
The last line makes me feel bad for him actually
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>>90360855
It's like Quiet's horse-faced sister. Still cute, though.
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>>90362318
>>90362334
>>90362070
>>90362118
Can you imagine if Star and Jackie's roles had been reversed. The former wouldn't have stood a chance.
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>>90362398
So what was Joost, zebra faced?
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>>90362344
How can that be canon when Starcrushed takes place in May/June?
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>>90360368
That last post was hilarious.
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>>90362344
>March
>is named after the Roman God Mars
>Marco
>is derived from Mars
NEFCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>90362472
That happened June 2013. Stars been gone for 2 years
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>>90362318
Well, it's natural he should feel that way, since they'd only gone on one date before and Star was clearly hogging all of Jackie's attention. It wasn't until Jackie was willing to be alone with him while Star left that he felt in any way secure in their relationship.
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>>90359893
>Season 4's intro is now a sinister villain song.
>The lyrics are exactly the same.
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>>90362459
Perfect Princess Jackie wouldn't have any need to go to Earth
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>>90362495
You wot m8
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>>90362478
Season 3 release date on ides
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Hey Jackie do you like jazz?
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Star is a cunt for not explaining why she had to leave. She clearly made Marco feel as if it was something he did. This is going to destroy him and make him angry at her when he finds out it was because of Toffee.
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>>90362518
>tfw current year was 16 years ago
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>>90362536
after seeing him almost get crushed by toffee, it's no surprise

especially after moon lectured her in the previous ep
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>>90362519
>>90362478
>yfw first episode of season 3 is Marco celebrating summer and his birthday but it has bad vibes because Star's gone and Marco wanted Star to have a good time on his birthday
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>>90360587
MOST PEOPLE ITT THINK YOU GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ROMANCE, BEING ATTACHED, HAVING A PARTNER

BUT ME AND THE STARVS CREW BOTH KNOW THAT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

KEEP BEING ON INDEPENDENT
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>>90362571
all the more reason he should know that Toffee's back. Marco will blindly go after Star and get himself caught
>>
In all seriousness, it's really bad shit when your best friend has to transfer away, happened to me too
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>>90360587
Good on you, gypsy scum
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>>90362581
Janna doesnt want romance, she wants more than a dick in her
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>>90362590
if you tell marco toffee is out there, he will demand to come along to protect star, after what happened in mewberty he wont let anything happen to star
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>>90362536
>angry at her when he finds out it was because of Toffee.
But first he will be angry at himself thinking its his fault, believing that he pushed Star away and he was blind to her feelings.

>yfw Marco tells Star that if she doesn't want him to underestimate her, then she should stop underestimating him, and to trust in him
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>>90362536
If Marco doesn't fail to think clearly for a moment, he'll get that he wasn't the reason. Star clearly brings up "some stuff came up", "have to leave Earth" etc, pointing, that there are some external reasons.
And also, what did she have to say? "Marco, Toffy came back, I'm leaving, love'ya"? Yeah, that would certainly not make him go with her, leave Jackie, probably fucking die or put himself in danger again, like the last time.

So it's not her fault, it's the whole situation that is shit
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>>90362536
Last time they encountered Toffee, Star had to give up her wand to keep Marco from being brutally crushed to death. She had very little time to say goodbye, and wanted to confess her feelings before she did. Telling Marco that Toffee was coming for her would only make Marco come after her to protect her, and that would put him in Toffee's crosshairs.
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>>90361705
>>90361788
>>90361839
>>90361854
>>90361900
>>90361922
>>90361963
FFFUCKING SU DYKES

GET THE FFFFFUCK OUT MY THREAD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>90362621
Like two dicks?
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>>90362640
people here always feel the need to play the blame game, even though it helps no one
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>>90362668
Welp, true
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>>90360297
She couldn't have her own song (at least without consequences), she couldn't decide her own future, she can't stay on Earth, and most importantly she can't have Marco. There is a lot she can't have and she needs to realize what's good for her. If the writers can make that happen then they would succeed with that moral. They also have a large roadblock because of the overwhelming amount of Starco fans that want starco to happen. It may be that Disney is aware of this and they force the writers to write the show like this, or the writers just submit to starco fans. hopefully Disney isn't connected enough to social media to notice the large desire for starco.
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>>90362668
Nice try, Star, but everything bad that happens in the show is your fault.
>>
Did Star show any signs of being interested in Marco prior to the Blood Moon Ball?
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>>90362459

Requesting Jackie Butterfly edit
>>
Reminder that Toffee couldn't possibly know that his finger isn't still in the wand unless Glossaryck told him. So he'll be chasing Star thinking she still has his finger in her wand. Marco will probably be the one with the finger, so Toffee will pull a reverse of Storm the Castle and make Marco an offer: "Bring me my finger if you ever want to see Star alive again."
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I think Jackie and Star need to talk
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>>90362640
>"some stuff came up", "have to leave Earth"
Thats vague enough it could be a lie and the problem is Marco, thats clearly how the line was delivered.
At least making sure Marco know there's a serious danger puts him on guard. Its the same as not telling the MHC about Glossaryck, it puts everyone in danger.
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>>90362723
>"Give me the finger if you ever want to see Star alive again."
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>>90361963
nah I think were all just a bunch of weebs but I'm sure we're also pretty autistic
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>>90362732
I think they need to kiss.
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>>90362723
Moon's darkest spell was to trap Toffee in the wand forever, but only caught his finger, trapping it in the wand.

He knew.
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>>90362514
The funny thing is, she'd wind up being more of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl than Star if she still wound up living with Marco.
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>>90362700
>Implying it isn't moon for only hitting Toffee's finger
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>>90362696
I really doubt Disney will force the writers to do one ship over the other. If anything going against Starco creates controversy and gets more people talking about the show.
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>>90362735
And telling him that there's danger will have the same result: Marco goes after Star, and winds up being a target for Toffee again.
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>>90362768
marco is more of stars "stable normal guy"
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>>90362773
So, how is it that she hit his middle finger, his whole middle finger, and only his middle finger?

Was he flipping her off at the time?
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>>90362773
What if she'd hit him in the crotch?

(Then this show couldn't air on Disney, that's what!)
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>>90362732
>yfw they eventually both come to terms on how they fell in love with the same dork
>they begin listing the qualities they find endearing in Marco, the things that made them love him
>eventually, Star begins listing more things than Jackie, things that only Star knows of Marco
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>>90362700
Everything was pretty fine, until Toffy came into the game
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If Star told her mom about Toffee in season 1 this would have never happened. If she paid any attention to her own family history, if she ever tried to look into who her mother really was, she could've avoided all this. This is all Star's fault.
She doesnt deserve happiness
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>>90362347
https://youtu.be/ETkz2hKrlzw
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>>90362807
>marco writes his own list
>stars paper is dozens of times longer than jackie
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Season three predictions:
>Guaranteed
Toffee/Ludo endgame revealed
Star and Marco relationship exploration
Glossaryck’s keikaku
Starco endgame
>Probably
Rhombulus’ nipple demon
Blood Moon relevant again
Toffee regains his true form
Eclipsa revealed
Star dipping down/Deus ex Machina
MHC counter attack/recovery (Potentially with River and Moon)
Ludo redemption arc
Tom shows up
>Unlikely
Someone’s permadeath
There’s more to Jackie than meets the eye
Star turns to the dark side
Marco’s monster arm
>Impossible
Jarco
>Meme tier
Jackie is a mermaid
Manna
Creepy severed legs cameo
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>>90362807

I was thinking they should let Marco decide 2bh
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>>90362787
I suppose that going against the ship would help it's popularity and its mainstream position in the media. Could be a show that stood up to crazy fans where others (Steven Universe) didn't.
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>>90362795
I don't know. There was that one painting
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>>90362806
> It's a "Star finds Toffee's dick in her wand" episode
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>>90362723
I think he put his finger in the wand before explosion as we clearly see a moment when it could happen. Missing his finger on the hand doen't mean he did't have it in a pocket/box or else
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>>90362806
>"Tell Star I'm coming for my dick."
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>>90362654
Don't worry anon, I won't be going away until you guys go to /trash/
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>>90362826
If Star told her Mom about Toffee in season 1, all she would have been able to tell her is "He kidnapped my best friend, made me destroy my wand, and then the wand blew up in his face." So, she would have told Moon that Toffee had blown himself up. Him possessing the wand is something no one would see coming.

Also, why the hell did Moon not tell Star about Toffee? That seems kind of important. "Oh, by the way, there's an immortal lizard monster out there who hates us and wants us dead, watch out for that."
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So, they've fucked, right?
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>>90362735
At the same time did she have enough time to prepare her speech to make the point totally clear while NOT telling about Toffy? I think she still did a good job there. Telling about Toffy would be a greater mistake
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>>90362889
Nope, went home. They have a 9 o'clock curfew.
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>>90362845
>Guaranteed
>Starco endgame
Excuse me?
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>>90362790
If its the same either way then theres no reason to not warn him of the guy who kidnapped and tried to kill him before. Being vague makes Marco curious and easy prey to be grabbed in the middle of the night. Being told the truth makes Marco worried but puts him on the defense.

Even with only a few minutes its not like Star could try to convince Marco she'd be safe in her big castle with thousands of knights. Marco would realize he's just a normal kid and wait for Star to come back.
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>>90362908
He's said before that it's bait, which you fell for.
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>>90362880
Did star even see Toffee before the S1 finale?
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>>90362889
Look at those fucking tits, this girl is STACKED
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>>90362915
*couldnt try
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>>90362918
(You)'re a bait.
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>>90362924
No, this is even pointed out. Neither Marco nor Star know who he is. Because Toffee always hid when Ludo went after them. He never let them know he existed until it was already too late.
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>>90362826
But for her Toffy was just a random monster, just a smarter one. How could she know he's worth telling about? Maybe she even told, but like "and then that lizard monster trapped Marco"
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>>90362847
He already decided even if not physically. Even if he doesn't go after Star right away.

I can only already feel the frustration Jackie feels deep inside whenever Marco becomes preoccupied with Star in his thoughts. I really hope we get an insight into Jackie's thoughts.

>yfw there is a fear within Jackie after falling for Marco that he and Star may be more than just best friends
>she often takes the initiative in getting together and getting his mind off things, that is to stay, Star
>tries to stay cordial to Star and not become jealous as part of this fear. Star is her friend, but foremost she is his boyfriend's bestfriend, not wanting to make it awkward between then.
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>>90362806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA7SGd5-jhk
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>>90362889
Marco walked her home gently.
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Mannafics? Where are them?
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>>90362902
yet she has no problem skateboarding at night? i call bs
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>>90362958

I stil think Jarco should be endgame and Star deal with the fact that Marco ony sees her as a friend

But that won't happen
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>>90362978

In the dumpster with Janna
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So, /co/, what is your head-canon that no one can convince you isn't true?
>Marco and Janna were childhood friends until Janna's shenanigans slowly pushed him away.
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>>90360444
I didn't ask for this... pain.
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>>90362807
>and then Marc-
>Star. Star. I understand. You love him and know him more than I do.
>Jackie...
>But he had chosen me. You must respect his decision, Star.
>I don't think there's ever any spot for me. He had always loved you, Jackie.
>yeah maybe if you stop being a worthless princess
>you bitch
>inbred waste of space
>you bitch
>i sucked his dick, you can't ever touch it, princess
>already did. so many times, skatergirl. magic portals.

This got away from me
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>>90362915
She took the whole her tower back to show anybody who is out for Marco, that there's nothing to seek here
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>>90359709
Its really apparent how far these trendies have fallen from reality. I expected nothing less from /co/mblr to defend these cuckreators either.
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>>90362957
If she knew her history she wouldve recognized him
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>>90362958
Imagine what she was thinking when her worst fear was realized, the thing that she tried to deny deep inside her head, that Star truly fell in love with the same guy she fell in love with.
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>>90362773
>>90362815
>Star didn't tell Moon about Toffy
>Star didn't tell Moon about Ludo
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>>90362908
It's bait.

But yes it is pretty much guaranteed. I like Jarco but I ain't delusional.
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>>90362978
Depends, do you like Spaghetti Janna greens?
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>>90363022
Oh sweetie, no, Star lost by a huge margin
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>>90361761
No.
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>>90360444

Yep
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>>90363015
>Ludo

A teen with Greenbelt was too strong for them. He's the runt of the litter
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>>90362889
>Marco says they went right home after
Confirmed to have fucked eachother right in the park
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>>90362915
What difference would earning Marco make? Toffee would stomp him, and take him anyway. And we know that Marco's not actually going to realise he's a normal kid and stay because he's Star's friend. He's going to go after her no matter what if he knows. Not telling him means that Marco will stay on Earth, or at least that's what it means in Star's mind.
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>>90363011
Know who likes history?
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>>90363022
>not putting your money on the immortal semen demon
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>>90363032
The fuck is up with this sweetie thing again
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>>90363011
Depends on how it was described
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>>90363055
The one Marco didn't even wave to?

>>90363060
It's also bait, of a different kind.
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>>90363006
Toffee already knows about Marco and where he lives. Unless Marco moves he's going to zap into his room and grab him like he did last time. Her tower not being there doesnt at all change the fact that theyre friends and he'd make a good hostage.
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>>90363055
>15 minutes
Wouldn't that be like 30 years of Hekapoo time?
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She's a retard princess, she's flat chest!
She's a ball of cuckening, and a big fat MESS!
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>>90363065
>Depends on how it was described
There's a big picture of him in that room which I assume was from her memories so it must be a real room
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>>90363055
>30 years
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5 Kages Against Tofee Uchiha
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>>90363032
>being this delusional and defensive

I don't really care which ship ends up sailing at the end, but the direction of the show is pretty clear. I feel pretty sorry for the Jarcofags that have really taken this Starcucked thing to heart and believe they've won something somehow.

Personally I'm just glad Jarco happened, even if it will almost certainly end soon.

>>90363055
Okay, tell a lie, Markapoo is the best. You are right about that.
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>>90363050
>What difference would earning Marco make?
The Diaz's could move for one
>we know that Marco's not actually going to realise he's a normal kid and stay because he's Star's friend. He's going to go after her no matter what if he knows.
Nice headcanon, do you still ship Starco? Marco isnt delusional. If it cant be helped he'll do the smart thing and trust Star's judgement.
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>>90363119
>suddenly Kaguya out of nowhere

Naruto was trash.
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>>90363119
Hekapoo should have used her flame spear.
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>>90363082
Toffee is already known to have no problem coming after Marco to get Star. Even if she's trying to protect Marco it makes next to no sense not to at least let Marco know.
>>90363121
>falling for sweetie posting
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>>90363121
She is the true winner. She is who Marco chose. Any time a Starco supporter tries to brag, I laugh HARD in their face, and educate them with the facts. It feels good being on the right side of herstory. Starco is literally the least popular ship of all time.

She fucking won.
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>>90363196
>Starco is literally the least popular ship of all time.

Get this baithead outta here
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>>90363196
>herstory
heheh
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>>90363121
It's bait, bro. We've been infested with shitposters for a while now, who false flag as Jarco shippers in order to start a fight. They'll turn around and do the same thing to Jarco if the tables turn.

>>90363133
>They can move
Yes, I'm sure moving will hide them from a being that knows scrying spells.

>Do you still ship Starco?
Immediately leaping to shipping? Really? That's sad. No, I know because Marco risks his life all the time on his adventures with Star. He literally followed her into Hell because he thought Tom was a predator. Because they're friends. He doesn't want to be the normal kid or the safe kid. So he'll go risk his life to help her, because that's what he does.
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>>90363082
Yeah, a good hostage, but the useless one, since there's no point in a hostage if your enemy doen't know you have one.
So basically Toffy needs to find Star first, then make sure that it's possible to contact her, only then to take a hostage (which is now harder, as Marco mastered melee combat against the enemies posessing magic powers and is not relying on magic that can be drained) , find Star again, find a place to fortify and hide and only then use hostage's potential. Moreover there's also a possibility, that seeing the whole shit Toffy can go "nah, fuck it then, no point in capturing this boy"
While the plan of Butterflys' is not flawless, it certainly buys some time if not safety at all for Marco.
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Main problem I see in jackie being a romantic interest is that as a character, she has shown no involvement in any of the events that unfolded, and no potential for growth at all. She's already perfect, understanding, chill, fun, loving, self-aware, independent... the list goes on. She feels like an ideal, not an actual character, which is a bit jarring in this show full of quirky, imperfect characters. I feel like when they made her a recurring character they forgot to give her conflict potential, and it makes her very boring, so I'm not sure where the attraction is.
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>>90363216
>>90363196
>all this bait
Can't wait to see your reactions when best ship wins.
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>>90363216

Star is for sucking the fat dicks of bald gross old men
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>>90363196
Ex-Jarcofag here, love watching this ship crash and burn. But in all seriousness, we can't let her get the Diaz.
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>>90363105
It was grandma's room

But still, she could say 'lizard monster'. And there are a lot of them. Even regenerating abilities are not unique - Rusticore for example
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>>90362902
Adam: "My boss is sitting right next to me, and the mouse is listening, but you can tell by my flat emotionless response that I want to make a dirty joke."
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>>90363268
/pol/ go and stay go.
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>>90363253
She feels exactly like Oskar felt for Star in the last episode
Maybe a bit better because of more screentime
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>>90363253
Hedgehog's Dilema

We're going to see some cracks soon, the closer she gets
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>>90359709

I kinda need that crop he posted's source tho, who's the artist ?
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>>90363257
Yeah, best ship.
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>>90363248
Sending a message to Star would be a non issue for Toffee, and theyll be looking for him anyway. It'd be as simple as sending a flaming message to the castle, it'd wind up reaching the Butterflies soon enough.

Toffee could easily defeat Marco are you serious? Did you fall for the meme that the MHC only lost because they used magic spells, despite the fact they all used melee attacks. Toffee straight up drained the life out of them, not just their magic, and could do the same to Marco.
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>>90363288

Not really, Oskar has flaws as a character, he's dumb as bricks, a stoner, and completely lost in his own little world, he's a very different beast.

>>90363292

No way, Marco ain't no whiny fag
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>>90363216
News from the real fandom, where reality rules:

http://www.jackiebeatstar.org/


Bugger off, Starcucks.

*sips tea*
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>>90363285
Never
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>>90363277
The description doesnt matter, Star shouldve seen the tapestry years ago, asked what it was her mom did, and recognized the guy on sight
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>>90363341
>Jackie Beat Star
God damn it, it took me a second to get the joke.
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>>90363303
I don't say it's impossible, I say that it's buying the time to at least think what to do next
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>>90363388

star has never seemed very concerned about learning anything about anything
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>>90363388
Subconcious memories and shit
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>>90363395
Toffee hates the Butterflys, hates Star, and will do anything to get to her. He wants to end their kingdom and the easiest way to do it would be to drag Marco out on their steps and threaten to kill him right there. With it being revealed the future Queen loves Marco theres even more incentive. Grabbing Marco would take him minutes and he has to find Star anyway.
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So now that the MHC members are either dead or in comas, who's taking up their roles? Do they have anyone who can replace them!
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>>90363418
Well thats the problem, its why Star is a shit ruler and needs to be guillotined for the sake of Mewni
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>>90360119
They're not that healthy a couple. Marco really isn't being a good boyfriend to Jackie, since he always ditches her at the drop of a hat for Star. And he doesn't understand Jackie the way he does Star. He said back in Sleepover that Jackie deserves somebody who will get to know the real her, but Marco's made next to no progress in that regard.
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>>90362696
>implying that the writers aren't themselves Starco fans
>>
so was anyone else a bit weirded out that the whole monster being oppressed angle seems to have faded out completely from the plot ? Felt like Mewnian atrocities towards monsters would become a big plot point in season 1 but now it feels like it got abandoned in favor of focusing on Ludo's relatively pointless hijincks, which is weird
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>>90359709
He's right though.
>>
>I need to tell the truth about myself
>so I'll publicly expose state secrets that could jeopardize the stability of my parent's rule
>"woops hehe mom sorry about that but lets forget about it ok xDD"

Jesus christ
just how retarded is star exactly
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>>90363486
>Marco's made next to no progress in that regard

Marco and Jackie's relationship only started to really take off when a lot of shit with Star started to happen (Ludo literally stole Glossaryck and spell book on Marco and Jackie's first date) and because he was already heavily involved in Star's situation before they got together, he can't just simply ignore it.
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>>90363458
I doubt about seconds, or he would've followed Moon right away
Also
How could he know, though, that Star still has something for Marco though? Imagine - he comes to Marco, Marco is with another girl, nothing from Star is left, Marco says that Star left him (I think he would be wise enough not to tell about her crush) and Earth probably forever, etc.

And if to forget the parts we know and Toffee doesn't, wouldn't it bring him a slight thought, that Marco is almost useless now?
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>>90363537
well i hope that they'll be objective with this but there is significant chance they wont be.
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>>90363253
Not every character needs to "grow" you hack
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>>90363552
We're probably going to get more on that in Season 3. Season 2a covered it a bit, showing how most monsters live, struggling just to survive everyday. This will probably be exploited by Toffee in Season 2.
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>>90363633
They haven't made the ship canon right away, have they? They're developing it, working on it, rather then just rushing it. We already know that Adam, Marco's voice actor, ships Starco, and yet he's putting effort and emotion into Marco's interactions with Jackie. Don't worry about it.
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>>90363625
He wanted Moon to go get Star. Tons of people in were there on song day, its likely he'll find out, and even if he didnt, he knows that Star would go as far as to destroy her wand for him as just a friend. Toffee is smart enough to see the value in taking Marco either way.
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I WILL NEVER BE HAPPY AGAIN
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>>90363635

if a character is completely impervious to all the drama surrounding their own relationship its boring as fuck, as well as making the character completely unrelatable
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>>90363757
We have two more seasons to go, calm down, man.

>>90363771
>taking someone using 'hack' seriously
It's bait.
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>>90363698
Wasn't saying they were rushing, I don't think the writers are the type of people to rush things. It's gonna be like the 2016 elections lol. which ship will win the ship election.

>I'm with Starco
>Make Jarco Great Again?
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Daron liked this
>https://twitter.com/lunaisabella15/status/837109025292550145

I've heard that it ended up on national news in Britain. People sure are excited over this
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>>90363771
a character is completely impervious to all the drama surrounding their own relationship != character "growth"

Its not necessary for a character arc to result in the character changing one way or the other.
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>>90363820
Ah, what I meant was, even if they ship it, they're not making it easy for Starco. They're putting it and the fans through the wringer. Where as they could have just made it canon as soon as possible.

Wouldn't it be the other way around, since Jarco is currently canon but Starco is more popular?
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>>90363820
It does kind of feel that way, doesn't it?
One side justifies it with polls, arguments that it's the way it has to be because that's the way these normally go, it's her turn yada yada..
The other side is a bunch of lovable memelord underdogs who are mostly here because it's funny and they got caught up in dank meme, and because they just don't like the other guy.
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>>90363552
We still got to see that monsters had to steal to survive in Buff Frog's episodes, because the fertile lands are all dominated by the humans of Mewni.

It also feels like Ludo's family are the last remnants of monster nobility, who have been stripped of their assets and marginalised by the Mewmen. The way his father reacted to Moon made it feel very much like he felt insulted at the idea of receiving handouts from the people that had taken everything from them.

Then there's the 'monster temple', which implies that monsters had their own religion and culture that the Mewmans wiped out, to the point where monsters like Ludo didn't even know it existed.

I kinda want to see the kingdom of Mewni get BTFO.
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>>90363878

>Its not necessary for a character arc to result in the character changing one way or the other.

Good thing that's not what I said then, get some reading comprehension
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>>90363876
Everyone is way too concerned with everyone else's sexuality. Who gives a crap if someone's straight or gay or bi or whatever? What does it matter?
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>>90363905
>every strawpoll conducted has 1170% votes for Starco, 0.1% for Markapoo
>threads have constant Starcuck and split on various ships
FAKE POLLS
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>>90362768
>if she still wound up living with Marco.
Marco would have died of spaghetti loss by the third day.
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>>90363725
Of course, but the point remains - telling about Toffie wouldn't be any safer, while this brings some time to make plan, because it a bit complicates the situation for Toffee as he is a type of villain, who actually thinks. This makes him very dangerous as he almost always achieves his goals in the long term but it's also his downside - he is used to think and make plans before doing stuff. And such chaotic events, that happened, slow him down, because unlike Star he doesn't wanna fail.
He's kinda like a good chess player, but if you do some crazy moves right, you might win by making his time run out due to a lot of processing (I used this strategy, works well on a lot of players)
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>>90363924
>and no potential for growth at all. She's already perfect
A good writer can make a perfect character work without a forced drama crisis
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>>90363876
>>90363936
>search news about star vs the forces of evil
>everything is gay shit
>no mention on how the show has ended its second season finale or any review of it

;_;
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Let's be honest, /svtfoe/, which camp has a larger presence in these threads, Jarco or Starco?
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>>90363936
It doesn't matter at all if the person is not an attention whore
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>>90364018
Silent majority is Jarco. Starcucks pollute these threads with constant whining.
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>>90364018
Starco. By a long shot.
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>>90364018
Starco, no question.

Jarcofags are just very noisy right now.
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>>90364018
The better question is which camp of shipping autists is more vocal and why is it Starco
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>>90364018
Jarco is a sleeping giant
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>>90364082
Because they've been around the longest? Ships with age seem to be more vocal.
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>>90364007
Worst part is that this whole shit might be paving the way for an actual relevant homo character.

Well, say goodbye to dicks, Janna.
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>>90364105
People invested so much into a shit ship and are having regrets now that the walls are closing in
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>>90364113
If Janna's crush is 18th century poet John Keats then why the fuck would she do a 180 into carpet-muncher territory
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>>90364113
>implying that Janna hasn't been after the D(iaz) the whole time
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>>90364134
>If Korra and Asami spent two seasons lusting after dick then why the fuck would they do a 180 into carpet-muncher territory
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>>90364160
>comparing the abortion of Avatar: Legend of Shitty Fanfiction to Starkino
Yeah nah
>>
So I've been thinking about something. How can anyone threaten Toffee as he is right now? He absorbs magic, even someone like Star or Eclipsa would only make him stronger if they fight him. About the only weakness he has is that Ludo's body is weak compared to his old one. What else can be done to fight him, especially if he goes Lizard again?
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>>90364191
What about AT, then?
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>>90364201
The Magic of a .50 BMG tungsten penetrator travelling at 3,029 ft/s
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>>90364201
Some good (better than Heckapoo's) melee fight to weaken and distract him and some powerful eclipsy magic to finish his shit off
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>>90364160
Because Bryke are hacks with daddy issues
Janna probably would experiment with Star or Jackie
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>>90364201
The power of love
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>>90364007
feels bad man
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>>90364201
Someone who is skilled in physical combat, perhaps someone learned in martial arts and knows how to use a sword. Maybe, someone with anti-magic that is concentrated in one arm only and if cut off can summon a monster that eats magic.

Maybe someone who is loved by the main character?
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>>90364201
Star with the full power of the wand, dipping down, and dark magic. Reminder that Moon used dark magic to beat Toffee the first time
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>>90364286
Who can it be? It's like such hero is not yet introduced
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>>90364286
>Toffee and Marco fight, but Toffee has the upper hand
>Marco decides to lure him in Hekapoo's dimension
>Manly pounding
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>>90364201
Karate
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>>90364300
>forgetting Butterfly Mode
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>>>/aco/1227773
>those first ten or so images
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>>90364336
>yfw Marco learns fucking chi attacks
>Toffee: "Impossible! Why can't I absorb your magic!"
>Marco: "It's not magic."
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>>90364257
>Hekapoo, Rhombulus, and Moon all tried whacking Tofee with melee attacks to no effect
>the massive pieces of Temple didnt even hit him, just created a smokescreen for Moon to escape which was part of his plan
>people still think it will work
Does River and 100 knights have to get btfo before people realized more than that is needed to take down Toffee ?
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>>90364398
Only the strongest magic can beat him: love
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>>90364279
>>90364430
We G Gundam now?
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>>90364286
I don't follow that last part

>>90364374
>>>Marco was going to be the kid obsessed with Dragon Ball Z
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>>90364398
Yeah, but nobody of them managed to actually hit him hard enogh. Only Rombulus dit a bit, but surely it was a weak attack, but it had a small effect.
As for temple pieces, Toffee simply shielded himself.

What I'm saying - is some SKILLED melee fighter, not fucking crystal throwing or scissors stabbing. MHC is pretty shit in that type of fighting
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>>90364082
Jarco is honestly far more vocal.

Literally all they do is scream memes.
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>>90364430
>Star and Marco's love isn't enough
>They need Jackie's and Marco's
>End up brining Heckapoo in
>Janna comes in to finish the job
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>>90362696
I hope that nobody tries to pretend Disney bullied Nefcy into Starco if that happens because that would be fucking sad
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>>90360297
The ensuing backlash would be delicious
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>>90364514
>the job
hand or blow one?
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>>90361105
>>90361129
>>90361328
>>90361379
You both obviously don't understand EoE, either lurk /a/, or just stop talking out of your ass.

>inb4 you ask me to explain it
fuck off and stop being spoonfed
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>>90364529
We're going to get shitposters and idiots doing exactly that. Why would this surprise you?
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Really, literally everyone in this show needs a powerup.
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>>90364550
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>>90364550
>implying you can have a rational conversation about Evangelion on /a/
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>>90364446
What would happen? The wand changes where a heart is in the middle and they blast him into oblivion?
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>>90363253
My biggest problem with Jackie is that she has no episode and is literally perfect with no flaws
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i am fond of star butterfly
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>>90364662
We just need more time

I would really hate if she was just a mermaid playing him for a fool
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>>90364659
Sounds about right. Ludo severs Toffee's wand hand from his body, Marco manages to grab it, combines it with Star's half, the power of love purifies it, and the restored wand's star becomes a heart.
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So question for fellow Jarcofags, do you think Jarco is endgame, or just something for now? I think it'll be around for the foreseeable future and end before the endgame Starco happens.

I think the Starco fags are even more annoying for not just waiting until their shit happens, I think it's obvious Nefcy will win her meta Bobbybowl in the end, why get autistic that it isn't happening now. Also, Jackie is stacked, so why rush to a twig?
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>>90364792
>Bobbybowl
What's that?
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>>90364792
Every aspect of Jackie's Character, her and Marco's interactions, Marco's life's precedent and the behavior of star points towards it being the logical and healthy endgame it should be.


Except that won't happen because Nefcy will shill out and attain Hackdom by forcing the predestined reality she has for her self-insert characters into the plot and in defiance/disregard of all previous characterization and character-interactions.
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>>90364818
Bobby is Daron's husband, and in the meta Bobby is Marco and Daron is Star. Also, Daron is Starfan13, which opens up alot of weird meta shit. Like on guy made a point that, what if the entire show was a Starfan13 fanfiction? The answer is, Starfan13 is Daron drooling over her ideal self, and thus she's writing her own show from within the show.
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>>90364792
I've been Jarco since the beginning and Jarco till the end but the creator of the show is literally working against us, it's only a matter of time until we get BTFO. It'll be bullshit but it will happen. If by some chance it doesn't though I'll honestly bust a nut at the incoherent rage and autism that will espouse from every Starcofag on this board
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>>90364902
Ah. I thought it was just a "bowl" for a different show. I think Marcobowl is the first time I've heard it.
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>>90364902
If that shit were true Nefcy is honestly on Chris-Chan's level of self-inserting, Mary-sueing autism and that's terrifying
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>>90364792
Starco is probably going to be endgame, and I can honestly live with that, but I just hope Nefcy doesn't make their breakup shitty, if they do.
I like Jarco, but we probably aren't meant to win. At most I'll just sigh, it isn't even really worth getting mad over unless Nefcy chokes and hacks it up. If it wins, though, the salt will be biblical, so I can look forward to that.
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>>90364948
I think both characters reflect her

The crazy nerd and the out going creative type
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>>90364937
sorry dude, it's an /a/ term

>>90364948
The difference is Chris-chan is literally in his works, where Nefcy isn't, and while her insertion as Star is obvious, Starfan13 isn't blindingly so.
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>>90363905
honestly I'm not on any side. what ever works ill support.
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>>90365001
Yeah but like
If Star and Marco are self inserts that represent the author's ideal self, secretly being idealized and glorified by ANOTHER self insert, that's some super convoluted, almost deranged projecting that really doesn't have an equal that I can easily think of.
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>>90365020
That explains it. I only go to /a/ occasionally for Jojo threads.
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>>90365020
But if both Star and Starfan represent Nefcy, while the latter representation is actively glorifying the first one, is she really separate from her own narrative anymore? If this were true she's talking herself up through a mouthpiece that is also herself. It's impressive, sure, but I kind of think that's interjecting herself way too far into the story to the point where it's really not a story in the conventional sense and more just a self-gratifying fantasy.
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haha right on man so Star just leaves while Toffee is at large and everything is okay haha whoa you guys had me worried good thing the ep ends here phew
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>>90365088
it's not a literal self insert, it's only bits and pieces. To bring Eva back, while Shinji is Anno's self insert, he is an extreme version of how he perceives himself, and isn't actually Anno, because he's a character. He also fills a role that Anno never could and it's only a loose insert.

>>90365159
I'll skip why I disagree with your points because we don't see eye to eye, but, regardless of how Nefcy's characters make you feel. I think it not only has no effect on the story, but also adds a great metanarrative.
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Just watched truth or punishment episode

People really think Starco isn't end game?
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>>90365232
I mean we obviously don't agree on it's impact on the story but at least you can acknowledge it's there. I'm not denying the idea of a metanarrative being impressive and it's definitely interesting, I just think it sacrifices any notion of the story being an organic one if the creator is writing, herself, her characters to also be her. I can see how you would support this if you're a fan of star succeeding in winning the Marcobowl in the end, but as someone who supports Jackie it's kinda depressing.
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>>90359549
>>90359623
i never did find out who this artist was
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>>90365393
I don't think we ever will
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>>90363584
But he's being kind of arrogant, if he said that much more politely and he wouldn't have had those reactions.
Look at Kristen for example, the way she wrote made her look very calm and reasonable. People are not machines, the way you say something does matter, that guy instead looked like he was triggered by the first tweet (althought Twitter is the perfect place for misunderstanding).
Also, it's not too difficult to understand the reasoning that they were making: for a long time society didn't gave the same opportunities to both sexes, and even now that men and women have theoretically the same rights, some insicure girl might still feel troubled by the thought of trying jobs that until now have storically shown a low percentage of women, and get discouraged even if they know they'd love doing it (or instead make a Tumblr and bleat at the patriachy like a flock). So, even if I still find a little bit cringey to hear/read stuff as the tweet they discussed, I can see where the reasoning might come from: to incourage those girls, and I see nothing wrong about that intention (I still think think it would be better not put much relevance into one's gender to have real equality, but in the end everyone acts the way he/she prefers).
Plus, the tweet was not about some bullshit about women needing quotas or something like that, so I think that's a proof of my point.
Also, the crew never seemed to me a group of SJWs or stuff like that. I mean, just look at the show. They didn't even use buzzwords like "misoginy" or "patriarchy" or whatever, and even Zach (he was kind of a prick too, tho) or Sabrina's final pissed comments seemed mostly ironic. You need to read the context case by case (who said exactly what and how, to determine why).
So, trying to have contrasts like this only invalidates our opinions, because it may push the people on the other "side" to slowly associate them with sexists, like femminazis do. Just talk calmly and read the context.
My opinion.
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