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Is Marvel cool yet, /co/?

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Is Marvel cool yet, /co/?
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>>90358461

Ease up on the lesbians. Make her like guy.
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>>90358461
That's legit so bad that it's rounded the bend for me. Like I actually kinda want to start saying that now. I want to make 'Holy Menstruation' a thing people I know say.
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JEW NOSE!
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>>90358461
>Holy menstruation

totally a term I hear on a daily basis.
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>>90358493
I started using 'Sweet Christmas' as an exclamation to be casually racist, and wound up using it unironically. Now it's my thing, the thing I say.
Now I'm the nigger.
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>>90358559
I say "Hells bells"
Sadly it didn't make me a wizard
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>>90358664
Doesn't make you a Kiwi sheep farmer either, which is either a pro or a con depending on how you like your livestock.
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>>90358461
It's funny because the normies expected something different and still get assblasted when they don't get it
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>>90358461
"What the holy blood gushing gash are you doing here?"
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>>90358461
they're better than cool, they're LIT
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That line work is goofy looking. Who penicilled this?
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So do teenagers (is she?) actually talk like this now?

Because I'm 23 and I never heard this expression before.
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>>90360773
I think she's more our age than teenage, but I could be wrong.
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>>90360773
At this point, "Hip teenagers of the Marvel universe have the vocabulary of a retard" should be considered canon.
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>>90360773
yes grandpa, though do.
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>>90358461
do girls actually speak like this?
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>>90360773
>>90361455
Obviously do you not say Holy Menstruation? You CIS white male scum, I wish America was real so she'd punch your "pure white energy" with her Brown fists of justice like she punched hitler because she's more American than Capt because shes from another Universe that probably has no concept of the U.S made by a homosexual abomination by a race traitor.
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>>90360773
You were warned old man
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Doesn't she come from an all female utopia? Why would she menstruate? There's no men, there's no internal fetilization, why would those women have and or keep their menstrual functions?

I can understand it being sort of dirty. Like "holy fuck" or "holy shit", it contrasts a gross process with divinity. But they would have gotten rid of the period and bleeding, no?
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>>90361513
That would fuck with their hormones production.
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>>90360792
>our age
I'm an old fuck anon. I doubt she was around when disco was still "hip"
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>>90361513
you're putting more work into the author's all-female utopia than the author did
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>>90358461
i am not from the US so i can avoid using quirky phrases.
Marvel is dead, and know it just shows signs of a rotting corpse
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Why are feminists so obsessed with the blood-based equivalent of taking a shit?
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>>90358461
holy menstruation

we are in the matriarchy, the decline of the west is well underway
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>>90363326
Because it's something specifically female. But don't tell the intersectional feminists that.
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>>90361513
Obviously, they all have dicks.
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>>90361513
Because the mixture of blood and epithelium shed by menstruation is BEAUTIFUL and EMPOWERING and the only reason anyone finds it gross is because THE PATRIARCHY wants you to HATE WOMEN!!
Obviously in a world where THE PATRIARCHY no longer exists, women would evolve to CELEBRATE THEIR FEMININITY every day of the month.
It's so sad that so many women have INTERNALIZED MISOGYNY and want to conceal their periods with OPPRESSIVE pads and tampons that LITERALLY RAPE them for the benefit of men.
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>>90363326
Bloodborne made menstruation cool, I guess
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>>90360773
This might be a skewed example, but I take college anthology classes lately, and they do say "white" with a lot of venom each day.

They also teach microagressions, "don't punch downward", race is a social contruct, and how race literally isn't real in other countries and only USA views it black or white based on appearance. In other countries you cam put on a suit and be white, or you can make yourself black. Pretty sure next week theyll teach how gender is also a social construct.

Yeah this is how the kids are taught to talk now
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>>90363428
Bloodborne made eating umbilical cords cool
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>>90363400
Holy EJACULATION batman! Xe is right! We need to embrace our masculinity and let our SPERM fly!
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>>90363430
Except, the most blatantly racist men I have ever met were from africa.
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>>90363544
Oh I think pretty much everything they teach is bullshit here, but these are the facts for kids these days regardless. They're being geared up for this all the time by college.

Even stranger this was supposed to be a class learning about Latino culture.
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>>90363344
Only Trump can save us now.
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>>90361513
> female utopia has to function is accordance with cis scum male logic
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>>90363518
You can't, because masculinity is inherently toxic, and male bodies (which are literally biologically identical to female bodies because biology is a social construct) are nothing more than temporarily restrained rape machines. By producing sperm you are supporting rape culture.
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>>90363518
I prefer "Holy Superman JIZZ bottle"
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>>90358493
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>>90358741

it`s seems more like a joke
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>>90358461
Oy vey!
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>>90358547
It reminds me of `66 Robin.
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>>90358461
Is she talking to Prodigy as in Slingers Prodigy? Cause that guy's cool and I don't want him mixed up in this garbage
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>>90358461
I thought she was a latina not a (((latina)))
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>>90361497
But I'm a 90s kid
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>>90364900
No, cleverest black guy Prodigy formerly from the X-Men who became bi because "of course I would be, Gillen is writing me"
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HELLO FELLOW KIDS

WHAT THE HOLY MENSTRUATION IS GOING ON
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>>90364958
Oh, cool. Nothing of value was lost
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>>90364861
If Robin had talked about bodily functions, one is camp substituting swears with mild words, the other is just disgusting.
>>90358461
What's with that schnoz? Latin women are not known for having such long noses.
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>>90364938
You're not a "90s kid" if you were BORN during the 90s, you can't enjoy a decade nor remember most of it if you were a fucking baby.
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>>90361588
far out, grandpa
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>>90363518
Already on it old chum
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>>90358697
GET AWAY ROUND BACK DOG
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>>90358461
Chulk: great gamma-smegma, what is this?
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>>90358559
I started saying "fresh hell" as a joke and now I can't stop.
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>>90365338
Let's hit those showers?
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>>90365240
What if you were born in 1990 tho?
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>>90363430
>race literally doesn't exist in other countries
My friend, I do business in SEA, NA, MENA and SSA. I just got back from a six month contract in Israel. The government had to clear me to enter because I had VISITED Arab countries

Hahahahahahaahahhahahaaahhahahhaaa

AAAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAAHAHAAAA

I can't wait for these precious snowflakes to meet the blowtorches of reality
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>>90365398
I use 'balls' as a negative exclamation ("oh balls!")
I don't even remember where I first saw or heard it but nobody else I know uses it.
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>>90365418
I'm gonna need one after this
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>>90363430
Fucking Europe should be an example of how wrong this is. UK left the European Union literally because they didn't want foreigners in their country.
Also isn't Japan extremely xenophobic and conservative?
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>>90365643
>UK left the European Union literally because they didn't want foreigners in their country.
That's a bit of a simplification anon but it's not really material!

I hope you have a nice day!
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>>90365643
They didnt mind foreigners, what they didn't want was foreigners overtaking them to the point of cultural erasure slowly
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thats how you know she's a GIRL, and it's supposed to be a random joke like "wow wasn't expecting that!!"
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>>90365643
>Japan
No. What they are is less sensitive to PoC shit (they'll call you fat, make black jokes in mixed company)

Overall they don't like foreginers marrying their women in mass or country being flooded with strangers completely different from their culture. But that goes for most countries on this earth.

Besides the two above, go to tokyo or another big city and you'll see plenty of blacks, whites, etc going about doing their business with no problem.
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>>90364928
Heh.
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>>90365485
People use that all the time
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>>90358461

What in the holy fuck is up with SJW feminists and their obsession with menstruation, periods, and tampons?

Like holy fuck, literally nobody talks that way. Nobody wants to talk about fucking tampons and periods, even regular women. Stop trying to make this a thing. It'd be like some dude going, "Holy testosterone!". Like no, that's NEVER gonna be said by a dude. Even Rich Piana wouldn't say that shit.
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>>90373689
I think it might be because historically for many cultures, menstruation was something that was feared and shunned, and that was the case for America up until the 1980s as well. The difference is that everyone has been on the internet, everyone has been exposed to meatspin or some other gore site and doesn't care if a woman bleeds once a month. Hell, some people even fap to it.

People don't want to talk about menstruation because it's gross, like talking about taking a shit. But just because something's gross doesn't make it haram.
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>>90358461
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>>90373689
thats a mind numbing image
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>>90373925
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>>90373689
QUESTIONS:
1. In what conceivable situation would you want to bring up tampons as a topic other than to buy them or making a business proposal out of them for your company's next sanitary issue?
2. Do people actually pre-meditate that they're going to sit at a coffee table and talk about motherfucking tampons?
3. Why isn't Supernatural over yet?
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>>90374018
who punches stars better than America? STAR PUNCH GIRL!
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>>90374223
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>>90374223
god i wish i was on that earth
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>>90374223
What a Kamehamehamehabyatch
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>>90374264
same
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>>90374319
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>>90374083
>3. Why isn't Supernatural over yet?
Well, the network it's on pumps more out if it makes money and the fanbase is notoriously cult, though if I'm correct it has been dwindling in recent years. Season 11 was actually really fucking good oh god what am I doing
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>>90374348
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>>90363430
>Pretty sure next week theyll teach how gender is also a social construct.

You're bit late on that claim.
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>>90374736
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>>90363430
Why are you taking a shitty useless class?
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>>90374630
Lavos inspired a bunch of shit.
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>>90374854
heh, yeah I dont doubt it
>>90374855
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>>90358461
Wait, Anita Sarkeesian went to some resort and got a tan?

It's all there down to the knowing nose and the blowjob earrings
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>>90374018
It's so much worse when taken in context. That girl just killed a motherfucker.
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Well I know what phrase I'm going to be using from here on out.
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>>90374970
What does she do nowadays?
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>>90375231
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>>90375262
Complains that no high exec paid attention to her rambling
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This reminds me of how /b/ tricked women into free bleeding.
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>>90373689
I dunno man, I mean people do use it in a derogatory fashion towards women

>Oh you're mad? You on your period?
etc

That and society on the whole is kind of weird about the whole subject. I think it's basically them trying to take back the term and point out that it's a perfectly natural occurrence and nothing to be ashamed about at all.

Of all the mental shit feminists say and do, I can actually sort of see their logic on this one.

That being said, few women feminist or otherwise would say "holy menstruation"
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>>90375400
almost over
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>>90374083
Actually talking about tampons is still kind of a weird subject. I mean having your period is kind of shameful for some girls, so asking for advice isn't always easy.

That and theirs still taboo over them given that you have to insert them inside yourself as opposed to a pad which sits there in your underoos.

Mooncups are the way forward
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>>90375503
thank you for reading, hopefully you enjoyed it better than America
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>>90358461
I unfucked this ugly thing up, within reason that is.
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>>90375369
>I think it's basically them trying to take back the term and point out that it's a perfectly natural occurrence and nothing to be ashamed about at all.

So is shitting but no sane person brings that up in conversation.
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>>90375926
Or erections.
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>>90375617
This was amazing. What is this? I love stuff with no dialogue and purely visual storytelling. This is how you use a comic to tell as story. Any more?
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>>90375369
Honestly, I gotta agree. This is easily one of the issues actual feminists probably should be bringing more attention to and trying to normalize. Just look at all the sperging out in this thread as proof positive how fucked up society is about a natural human biological feature.

>>90375926
>So is shitting but no sane person brings that up in conversation.

You've never clearly had anyone close enough to you in a meaningful manner. I feel sorry for you. If you can't discuss your poop with someone, you aren't really close at all with any one.
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>>90376030
https://tapastic.com/series/starpunchgirl

theres also a soundtrack
https://soundcloud.com/tungtarung/sets/starpunch-girl-alternate-ost
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>>90375926
Yes, but whilst it is a unspoken agreement that everyone poops and that's ok, just don't talk about it, periods come along after a decade and a bit and certainly don't have that same acceptance.

Clearly you're a bloke and therefore haven't really experienced this, but it's a fucking weird time for a girl when your period starts, and because it's such a taboo subject it's not easy to just talk to someone to help you through this change. People treat periods in very different and odd ways. Some parents celebrate really awkwardly when a girl has her first period for example. I'm not saying you can't empathise at all, but you don't experience this every month so it's not as big a part of your life. You could feasibly go months without even hearing the word period yet for women its a regular occurrence that for some reason some of us are completely unwilling to talk about.

It's a little different now, times seem to be different and the taboo seems less shameful, but go back a decade and it's very different.
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>>90358461
What the hell is this?
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>>90361455
Do you really have to ask? Not even retarded tumblr sjws talk like that, no.
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>>90376329
>Some parents celebrate really awkwardly when a girl has her first period for example.

Imagine how awkward it would be if parents celebrated their sons first hard-on.
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>>90376435
Marvel.
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>>90363430
I would sue the college, no joke.
Get litigious, son.
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>>90376545
Or their first wet dream.
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>>90363430
Gender is a social construct though. This is recognised and indeed necessary to certain areas of study in numerous fields, anthropology and history to name but 2

Sex =/= gender.

I don't give a shit about trannies or their "rights", I just hate ignorance more.

Seriously, actually look into it instead of just parroting "hurr it's not a social construct" because that sounds like it makes the most sense to your uninformed mind.

>inb4 hurr tumblr

Honestly, look into it.
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>>90375136

That looks like Atropus
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>>90375456
Nah, it's natural.

But if you're not discussing lactating tits in public, you don't discuss tampons. That's the line.
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>>90376848
So... you have neither a penis or a vagina between your legs.

Cool. Cool.
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>>90376848
>Sex =/= gender.

The social sciences were a mistake.
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>>90377043
Bait, but I'll bite.

There can be only 2 sexes and gender can still be the social construct by which people with either a penis or a vagina are expected to behave, react, fulfil certain roles in society etc.

Gender is the social construct usually determined by the genitals one has. Now anthropologists have found societies on every continent bar Antarctica that have possessed more than 2 distinct genders, but whether or not they are talking bollocks is clearly up for debate.

As it is, gender is not the same as sex.
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>>90376609
So you're telling me that to appeal to people who find everything offensive, most of which is just dumb and boring at worst and is far from being offensive, they create sonething that is actually insulting?
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>>90376848
Everything is a social construct retard, nothing has an inherent value//meaning until we give it one.

That's no fucking excuse.
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>>90377312
So what you're saying is, gender is indeed a social construct?

Glad we agree
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>>90363430
Your post makes a perfect description of ivory towers.
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>>90377275
Critics are going gaga over it. Why didn't you stop it?
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>>90377403
I didn't know it exists. I don't follow every garbage comic that gets shat out.
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>Menstruation are a taboo
Holy shit murricans why are you so puritan while watching tits on every burger commercials?
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>>90363326
It's more like the blood-based equivalent of having uncontrollable clumpy diarrhea with cramping and pain that rivals serious medical emergencies.
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>>90377352
You can call anything you want a social construct, that is meaningless.
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>>90377454
Oh? The warning lights have been on for years now. This is the path Marvel has been walking for almost a decade now.
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>>90377460
They are to a degree everywhere though.
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>>90377460
Tits are not allowed on American TV unless it's a pornographic or borderline pornographic channel.
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>>90377547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUvQkW4B1k
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>>90358461
The nose knows.
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>>90375369
So what you're saying is that children should never be taught about their poop and how to do it at a young age so that if there's anything they find weird about it they must figure it out on their own because it's too embarrassing to talk about?
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>>90377670
Did you reply to the right post?
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>>90377670
No, the exact opposite you fucking spastic.
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>>90376848
When did the leftist intelligentsia decide to try to turn the word and concept of gender into meaning 'personality types', because that's literally what they're doing.

I also see that along the way they mixed up gender with gender roles. Gender roles being of course something that isn't set in stone, but heavily influenced by biology and gender just being synonymous with sex.
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>>90377510
Mate you should probably tell academia that, shit.

Thank fuck we have you, the lone seer of truth posting on a Polynesian marionette appreciation board to help fuck off decades of study by literal experts in their respective fields.
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>>90377352
Bro, the moon is a social construct. You see, the moon is after all just a word, people call the big rock floating near our earth all sorts of names. So you see moon too is nothing more than a language construct.

Doesn't mean there isn't a natural satellite in orbit around our planet now does it.
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>>90376329
So what you're saying is I should bring up my ejaculation all the time, even around women. And it'll be their problem if they are grossed out by my talk.

Got it.
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>>90377760
I did reply to the entirely wrong post. /co/ seems a bit grumpy tonight judging by the other response that didn't even figure that out. Thank you for your courtesy.
Meant for >>90375926
The picture in OP is still stupid but the logic of thing being so taboo that girls have no idea wth is happening being an unreasonable thing is entirely... reasonable.
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>>90377901
You're retarded.
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>>90377860
>Experts
>Social sciences
I forget you come from the land of people who think phd in bullshit like gender studies and the history of women are valid.
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>there are faggots in this thread defending "holy menstruation" and feminist bullshit
/co/mblr is real
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>>90377819
Literally fucking decades ago.

Decades and decades and decades.

60 odd years at the very VERY least if we're talking the study of history and it's acceptance of it in more mainstream circles.

This is what makes me really laugh about how uptight people get around the notion of "hurr universities are teaching that gender is a social construct"

It's been around as a concept for about a century, albeit rather obscure in its first instances.
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>>90375926
>Holy Cum

is better.
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>>90377979
>gender studies meme

Also:

People with degrees in stuff like History literally become world leaders.
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>>90377981
I didn't read the whole thread but from what I've read there wasn't a single person defending the garbage in the OP. Find some other place to sperg out about sjws oppressing you.
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>>90377987
Sweet, then they've been deluded for the better part of a century. Good to know.
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>>90378047
People with degrees in stuff like History Of Women just become History of Women teachers though.
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What's next /co/, suddenly age can be fluid too I guess, after all you're only as old as you feel like?

>Naw bro 65 is just a number, doesn't mean you have been on this planet for 65 rotations around the sun
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>>90378156
M8 some of this people are already supporting pedophilia because indeed, age is just a number.

Don't be ageist.
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>>90378148
>There's no point in studying the history of literally half of the human race

I'm not a feminist by any stretch of the imagination, but its attitudes like that which encourage them anon.
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>>90378156
We're getting there, bro. Don't worry!
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>>90378047
Degrees in history yes, not in history of women.
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>>90378197
Source.

A credible one, not some lone nutter.
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>>90378198
If they had contributed anything worthwhile they'd be taught in regular History classes.
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>>90378156
>>90378197
>>90378210
Gaze upon a pale rider, for his name is death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE
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>>90378252
At degree level they are.
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>>90377896
Yeah but the Moon isn't a person.
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>>90378284
Which makes branching pointless.
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What is it with feminists and menstrual cycles?

I remember the Mockingbird writer gloating about how many times she referenced it.

Why.
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>>90376848
Holy shit with the amount of mental gymnastics you go through daily, you could be an Olympic gold medalist.
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>>90377901
>Your ejaculation is the same as a week long occurrence for women that happens at regular intervals once a month and requires forethought with how to deal with it and semi regular maintainance

My point was actually more about women being more comfortable in discussing it with each other than any of us going up to a man and randomly telling him, but okay anon.
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>>90378252
Except they don't teach about a lot of things in regular history. That's the reason there are separate specialisations within history. You can specialise in a single period and the only reason women history is considered different is because retards like you made it a meme.
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>>90378344
>I have never studied History at a degree level
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>>90378466
>more about women being more comfortable in discussing it with each other

And they do. So what's the problem?
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>>90378390
They think feminism is yelling louder than retards who sperg out at every mention of it.
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>>90378404
>I know more about the idea of gender being a social construct than decades of countless academics because I gave it 5 minutes thought.
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>>90378466
I think you meant to say:
>Taking a shit is the same as an occurrence for women that happens at regular intervals and requires forethought with how to deal with it and semi regular maintainance
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>>90378511
And how do you know that?
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>>90378511
No, we don't. That's the point. It's still a problem. More do now than they did about 10 years ago, but thats more due to feminists being outspoken about it and making it a more acceptable topic of conversation.

Again, back to my first post. Of all the batshit stuff feminists come out with, this one actually has some semblance of sense to it.
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>>90378592
Because women never shut up about their vags.
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>>90377177

>There can be only 2 sexes

also technically wrong, hermaphrodites/'intersex' are a real, albeit very rare, thing
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>>90378622
You've never actually met a woman haven't you. And lets for the sake of argument say you're right, how is that different from men constantly talking about their dicks?
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>>90378622
Unfunny cunts like Amy Schumer don't shut up about their vaginas because its still a somewhat taboo subject. It certainly was very taboo until fairly recently.

It's about breaking through the stigma.
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>>90378716
>how is that different from men constantly talking about their dicks?

We rightly consider them obnoxious assholes who need to shut the fuck up.
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>>90378156
>>90378210

This is the left's next conquest
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>>90378781
Exactly. There's no difference. There are both men and women who are obnoxious assholes but they are the minority in both cases so stop acting like it greatly influences your daily life.
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>>90375369
This guy knows what he's talking about.
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>>90378716
>how is that different from men constantly talking about their dicks
Except that guys pretty much never talk about their dicks.
>muh dick
Is just an expression that something is hot.
If two guys are specifically talking about their dicks it's because they want to fuck, just go to /v/ some time and see what I mean.
Other than that, no, guys practically never talk about their dicks, it just never comes up in any conversation that's not sexual.
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>>90358461
>What the Holy Menstruation

So...it's referring to one in particulat? I'm quite confused...no one says "The Holy Shit" because why would it refer to one in particular
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>>90378899
>He doesn't think phallic imagery is a prevalent thing
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>>90378912
It's the last period Mary had before she got pregnant with Jesus.
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>>90378971
"Phallic imagery" is different from casual conversation. And you can find just as much "vaginal imagery" everywhere.
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>>90378608

Wait, if this is just about women feeling comfortable talking about menstruation with each other, then why is this a problem or conversation that men need to care about or address or be blamed for in any way?
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>>90361513
it would depend how long ago the divergence was from normal humanity, it's not like you can just stop menstruating, it's a bodily function. Humans as a species are somewhat beyond natural evolution and we have been since approximately the dawn of agriculture so evolving out of menstruation would likely take many tens of thousands of years.
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>>90379016
Nobody draws vagina on walls. Nobody talks about vaginas unless they're having medical conversation, talking about your dick doesn't happen all the time but it's much more common than equivalent conversations about vagina. Nobody shitposts about their vagina size on the internet.
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>>90379124
>Nobody shitposts about their vagina size on the internet.

You'd be surprised.
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>>90379016
>You can find just as much "vaginal imagery" everywhere.

Nah you can't. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but phallic imagery is far more prevalent.

The thing is, what you're basically doing is you're arguing with myself, a woman and what I can only presume is another woman about the sorts of things women talk about, and quite frankly you're wrong.

I'm not saying men can't empathise or "they'll never know our struggle" or any of that feminist shite, but I am saying that going by this thread, you in particular are talking utter shit.

Perhaps accept that women are sightly more likely to know what women talk to women about than men.
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>>90378912
You do say the holy fuck though and that's not referring to a specific fuck.
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>>90365643
>>90366108
>>90367875
>>90371975
Perhaps a better example is historical discrimination against the Irish in Britain and Koreans in Japan despite all groups being physically similar
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>>90371975
hahahahahah

weebs need to be gassed
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>>90363668
You mean Latinx culture, shitlord

I should mention I'm very excited about the fact that Trump's mass deportation policies will release a large number of Mexicans who have been educated to become autistic post-genderistic American liberals back into their native environment of Mexico. Lube up Mexicans, you're about to get culturally enriched by your own people.
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>>90358559
>I started using 'Sweet Christmas' as an exclamation to be casually racist

What?
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>>90379079
You don't need to care about it or address it at all. Perhaps a small amount of blame can be placed on people, not just men, but people who use menstruation in a derogatory way, but other than that you don't.

An anon asked why feminists talk about menstruation so much. I answered to normalise it for other women.

If you happen to come across it as a man you have two options. Accept that it's just a normal thing that women go through and sometimes discuss, or chimp out about how "women are talking about it" because it makes you uncomfortable.

If it makes you uncomfortable you join the ranks of the people, men and women who are part of the problem.

You don't have to know about it or want to know or champion it, but if you do happen hear about it, hopefully you won't sperg out about it.
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>>90379151
Thanks for pushing your insecurities on everyone else, dumb cunts.
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>>90358664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAIpkdhU9Q
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>>90358697
>>90365361

>/co/ knowing about Footrot flats

I'm honestly shocked
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>>90358559
Mine's a bit obscure by comparison, but I've made mental notes by saying "Idea for a _____" to myself, which comes from an episode of "Home Movies".
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>>90379315

I don't have a problem with people talking about it, I just don't understand why it and tampons are supposed to be part of the national discourse.
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>>90379325
Are you talking about that person saying its not as common or people who draw dicks everywhere?
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>>90378971
I never talked about imagery, I specifically talked about conversations, don't try to steer the conversation to another topic as if that were the issue at hand.
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>>90379376
I suppose because what has happened for so long is that it's been a taboo subject that people don't discuss making it far harder for women to deal with than it really needs to be and brings more shame along with it. With more discussion comes more acceptance and understanding of what is a perfectly natural biological process without said shame.

Its removing shame from something that is a part of the lives of most women on this planet.

Perhaps its crass, or annoying for men, I can understand that, I genuinely can, but what we had before just wasn't helpful to young girls going through a transitional period of their life without help, being made to feel ashamed of a natural process.

Feminists are taking it as a sort of rallying cry. "I am a woman, and that is ok. I shouldn't be ashamed of being a woman or the things that come with it". I don't agree with feminists on a great many things, but on this they are right.
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>>90378899
>Except that guys pretty much never talk about their dicks.

woman detected
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>>90363430

>mfw I go to a college where most people don't spout that bullshit

Thank God
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>>90379559
Imagery is part of making it normal or taboo though, you can't separate it.
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>>90365643
>UK left the European Union literally because they didn't want foreigners in their country

No they left because they wanted to be in charge of their own immigration policy. Imagine if our immigration was handled by Trudeau and we didn't get a say
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>>90379624
Most don't anon, he's shitposting and over exaggerating how colleges and universities are because the very notion of discussing these things as concepts triggers him.

Ironically, he wants a safe space from the very notion of the discussion of the ideas he listed.
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>>90379721
>tfw you will never kill Justin "cuck" Castro
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>>90379624
if you do anything other than an arts degree you'll never come across this kind of stuff, ironically all complaining about it does is out that person as an idiot doing an arts degree.
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>>90373925
I'm actually a long time fan of this comic. Good taste, Anon.
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>>Go to other places online.
>>People gushing over this book.
I really can't take it anymore, /co/
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>>90379721
>No they left because they wanted to be in charge of their own immigration policy

Unless the topic of conversation turns towards the notion of xenophobia or racism, at which point it was never about migration, but rather parliamentary sovereignty or the money we sent over or whatever.

The simple fact of the matter is, nobody over here knows what was actually voted for by the general public at large other than to leave. And I say that as a leaver.
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>>90371975
>Overall they don't like foreginers marrying their women
but they don't care that their women are more interested in foreigners?
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this is why i only read slapstick now jesus
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>>90379944

Don't give Marvel money, faggot. They use the income of higher selling books to subsidize shit like this
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>>90375617
that was great!
pretty fun and lightheart
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>>90379967
>implying i pay for it
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>>90358697
I used to fucking love Footrot Flats.

I have like 30 of the books, weekenders and pocketbooks in my garage.
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>>90379900
Japanese men are betas who, even though 40% of Japanese women aged 18-30 are virgins, still consider them to be rotten whores and are intimidated by them working shitty jobs. Japan doesn't even have nearly the kind of culture America does so these guys would probably kill themselves if they had to deal with American women instead.

However they're still insecure about the fact that Japanese virgin women seek out white/black/chink cock in order to satisfy their needs because Jap men refuse to do so.
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>>90380218
>even though 40% of Japanese women aged 18-30 are virgins,

Excuse me, what? Why are we all posting when we could be in Tokyo right now?
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>>90379794
Im glad you enjoyed it. Too bad it will be over soon. But the conclusion will hopefully be epic
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>>90380345
Because japan is hella fucking racist.

If you don't speak japanese, aren't white and don't have a high paying job (or the potential for one) stateside you're not landing a waifu in tokyo.
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>>90380674
Objection: Japan is xenophobic, not racist. If you show up as an illiterate, chinese, pinoy, or korean, with no job, you will ALSO be treated like garbage.


Pic related. He learned japanese, changed his name to Sakuragi, which happens to be the name of a basketball manga character, has a high paying job, and is now a Japanese citizen

Sumo wrestling has more diversity than NASCAR. But every single one of them is required to take a japanese name and be functional in the language.
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>>90379596
Dude, we're in a phase where reaction videos to two girls one cup are passe', japanese transexual cartoon porn has a 100 percent recognition rate with the normies and is available in every household.

I have no clue what taboos you're talking about.
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>>90379279
As an added bonus the cultural enrichment works both ways. Which means that 4 gendered quirkyrican mariconados are going to get a face full of valiente chavenista machismo.
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>>90375926
>holy shit
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>>90360773
I've got some teenage interns and none of them talk like this. They talk like normal human beings for the most part.
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>>90380674

>Waifu

What makes you think I want anything long term?
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>>90358559
I find myself saying "Bloody hell" a lot like I'm some chav or a bogan living in the desert of australia.

I live in Florida so you can imagine the looks I get.
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>>90377941
/co/ is on its period.

It happens.
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>>90382640
Oh hey, I'm from Florida too.
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>>90379797
>"geeky" normies are retards
no shit
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>three, count them three threads devoted to whining about this comic on /co/ right now

You pansies will let yourselves be triggered by literally anything that doesn't have a generic white guy in it.

I could make a comic that was just a Latina lady sitting in a chair doing nothing for 30 pages and you'd find some excuse to tear your own hair out with fury and then devote 7500 posts to complaining about it.
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>>90383013
>NO UR THE TRIGGERED ONES, SHITLORDS!!!1
>THERE I DID IT I CALLED YOU TRIGGERED NOW YOU KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE AAAAA

Hmmm.
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>I'm so stuck up in my need to fight le feminists that I refuse to use my brain

>>90376848
>>90377043
>>90377063
>>90377979
>>90377819
>>90378404
Sex is the genitalia. Gender is how people expect you to act according to that genitalia. Is that so hard to understand?

>>90378210
Are you seriously taking posts about people who try to see and treat pedophilia as a mental illness as apologies for child rape?
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>>90383013
To be fair a lady sitting in a chair for 30 pages sounds incredibly boring.
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>>90383013
>I could make a comic that was just a Latina lady sitting in a chair doing nothing for 30 pages and you'd find some excuse to tear your own hair out with fury and then devote 7500 posts to complaining about it.
Well, it DOES sounds pretty bad.

Anyway, if the problem is that "the character isn't white REEEE", why Green Lanterns by fucking Humphries is being well received here?
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>>90376848
I'll agree with you on the sex =/= gender part, but gender definitely is not a social construct. Even animals have gender roles, it's completely biological to behave either male or female.
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>>90383976
But that's exactly what social construct means.
It's almost like you guys just refuse to accept the word itself because it reminds you of le tumblr.
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>>90384011
>biological imperative and general behavioral tones that can be quantified by various biological factors are now social constructs
>he doesn't know that the term social construct is literally a bunch of Marxist bullshit that didn't exist before a hundred years ago and was used as a way to excuse murdering farmers, it's just intentionally subversive postmodernist language to imply that inherent morality, law, and virtues are ethereal and therefore nonexistent when even animals have codes of conduct amongst themselves, and the fact that nonverbal language exists as a constant proves that waving things off as social constructs is counter intuitive and self destructive

Go read the gulag archipelago and stop using that hinge language of murderers
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>>90384842
I never knew somebody in /co/ will have this much dignity, cheers dude.
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>>90384842
>Gulag Archipelago

my nigga
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This is why women should never be allowed to be writers.
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>>90384842
I was wondering when "cultural Marixism" would pop up.
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>>90384977
They can be mangaka though
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>>90385030
Japshit is garbage that needs to burn.
Fuck off, weeb cunt.
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>>90358461
Yes, Marvel has been the cool publisher for several years now.
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>>90385042
Don't throw a fit /co/mblr
"weeaboo" is a social construct good xir
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>>90385025
>denying reality

goddamn illiterates
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>>90385058
>calling me one of those faggots when I openly state that women are too dumb to be writers
Nice try, weeb.
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>>90385062
Right, denying "reality".
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>>90385025
But that's what it is.
That's literally what it is.
It's literally and historically the language used in the Soviet Union but other countries as well, as an excuse to erode inherent morality in culture, things that should be self evident.

It was used to excuse the rape and murder and abuse of the Russian people, of the Chinese people, of every country, including my own, that ever suffered under communism. I can tell you for a quantifiable fact that it's real, it has a function, it isn't just people whining online. Language is important and once you normalize murderous language you normalize murderous intent.

The idea of social construct is an rhetorical pseudoscience and a myth based on the idea that human nature can be ground to dust and then molded into whatever the state wants it to be. I know that isn't true, you know that isn't true. We know humans are flawed but also virtuous animals, we know ourselves and marxism was a lie invented to commit evil on people under the promise of the abolition of personal responsibility.

I know it's veering offtopic and I know it's whinging but seriously, to anyone reading this even casually, don't let yourself be pushed into accepting things bit by bit until they can tell you what's right wand what isn't and what's real accepting what's not.

Don't use the language of murderers.
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>>90385074
dude, every modern philosophy textbook could be your friend here (not to mention widely translated original works by our friends Horkheimer, Lukacs, Adorno or Marcuse), but can't be bothered with actual education can you now
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>>90385073
Well I don't know where you could be from then because /pol/ has been indoctrinated by anime.
All I'm saying is little girls are written best by little girls.
4chan is a weeb site so I don't understand your tantrum.
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>>90385092
Wow, so woke, much redpilled
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>>90385092
>Don't use the language of murderers.
To anyone reading this casually: when someone starts talking like this, you can be sure in the knowledge that they're full of shit.
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>>90385092
>marxism was a lie invented to commit evil on people under the promise of the abolition of personal responsibility.

Too real
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>>90385096
Educate me. Give me quotes from a philosophy textbook. I'm standing here with my mind wide open.
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>>90384842
We got a true intellectual here.

So you're basically equating the study of gender roles with the fucking gulags because they both derive from """"left-wing"""" thinkers who deconstruct society in their works.
And you're saying that I shouldn't use the word social construct because it's tangetially related to the aforementioned gulags.
Ok.
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>>90385117
you sure told him, upvoted!
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>>90360677
joe "one more day" quesodilla
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>>90385145
>tangetially related
I'm gonna bet that the relation is that the "social construct" thing was thought out by some left-wing people and the gulags were made by left-wing people and that's the whole "relation".
It's like shitting on all the scientific research that the Nazi scientist did for America after WWII because it was done by Nazis. Or calling the moon landing a Nazi enterprise cause you can bet those Nazis contributed to that.
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>>90385142
>requesting spoonfeeding is now viewed as acceptable

jesus christ you newfags are the worst

check the names here (it's "marxist" so no horrible right-wing lies there) and come back when you read something yourself
https://www.marxists.org/subject/frankfurt-school/index.htm
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>>90385175
>scientist
*scientists
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>>90385145
I'm saying you shouldn't fall for the faulty logic of gender studies that denies objective reality.

It's a symptom of the disease but not the disease itself.

It's like smearing shit in your mouth. It's disgusting and unsanitary and on its own won't immediately kill you, but you keep doing it enough eventually your teeth will rot out and youll get some horrible disease and you won't be able to eat, so you'll probably go through a lot of needless suffering.

It's based on objectively manipulative populist rhetoric that was used to abuse a dead nation of farmers that was then overtly injected into american schools because ironically communism is really popular with the bourgeois since they think they'll be spared for some reason, and the logic of cultural marxism got extrapolated into subroutines that are equally unquantifiable.

The entire basis of the gender theory is based off the work of a horrifically abusive pedophile and the conclusion of his experiment was kids who committed suicide, but ohhhh, let's just ignore that happened and pretend that people can choose their gender, but gender doesn't exist because men and women are equal, but they're not equal so we need feminism, when all it is is a fucking ploy to make working class women miserable and push nonsensical ethics that could easily be solved with a live and let live mentality.

It's willful ignorance and no, it won't lead to people in concentration campd, but it does help rot people's minds and make them more open to the idea of concentration camps.

Step out of your willful self imposed fantasy of contradictory rhetoric thst your peers bullied you into.
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>>90385212
Lower your power level, /co/ can't handle going down this rabbit hole
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>>90385183
I asked you to give me some quotes from the "philosophy textbook" you yourself mentioned and I get a webpage about the frankfurt school which, when ctrl+f-ed for "social construct" finds nothing.

I'm asking you to be clear and you're just muddying the waters even more.
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>>90385212
>>90385092
>>90384842

It's almost fucking 6 pm dude, this isn't the time or place to go all out
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>>90385212
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or if you genuinely like to write like a propaganda book.
But I'm still going to answer because otherwise people start bitching that WE DON'T TAKE OTHER OPINIONS SERIOUSLY.

Gender is a simple study on society. If you ask me, I think people are too obsessed with it, as if it's the building block of identity. And this is not good. It goes against anything equality stands for and it's the child of a warped view of feminism.

Also, the true goal of feminism (as in, real fucking feminism, not SCUM manifesto or Tumblrina bullshit) is exactly "live and let live".
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>>90358461
>Is Marvel cool yet, /co/?

Judging by this threads reaction to a joke, yes
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>>90385212
>objectively manipulative populist rhetoric
>a horrifically abusive pedophile and the conclusion of his experiment was kids who committed suicide, but ohhhh, let's just ignore that happened

the second quote is literally manipulative rhetoric, because you're ignoring the results of the experiment and concentrating on the "populist" part (kids commiting suicide)
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>>90385289
No set up
No punchline
No joke
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>>90385212
>The entire basis of the gender theory is based off the work of a horrifically abusive pedophile
Let me guess - Alfred Kinsey? Hahahahaha.
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>>90385304
The experiment ended with the surviving child raised as a girl to grow up and adopting a masculine identity and heavily regretting undergoing the process, before committing suicide.

Studies have shown this is the case for most children tagged as transgender.

Liking different things doesn't change your sexual identity. In fact the only thing that really dies that quantifiably is increased exposure to pornography.

And personally speaking, I know a transgender person who was pushed into it by their family but don't want to stop the hormone therapy process because of a mix of shame and peer pressure, and are stuck in an unhappy situation.

Gender isn't a quantifiable thing, it's Marxist rhetoric that harms children by putting the doublethink into their consciousness, that gender is something ethereal and selective, but also something you can identify based on something as innocuous as fashion choice.

It's actively destructive.
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Question --- why do these guys like to use "Marxist" for anything that is even remotely left-wing? Is it because they're americans and immediately think Marx==Evil? Christ, don't ever come to Europe.
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>>90379325
So then you don't have a response.
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>>90385345
I don't understand how you don't see the huge hole in your logic when talking about the transgender suicides.
You present it as a clear case of transgenderism and gender theory making people dpressed and steering them towards suicide. But how come you don't see the possibility that these people are depressed and suicidal because our whole society is geared towards discirminating against them and shunning them?

Would you say the same thing about gay people? That their homosexuality is a made up thing becuase gay teens have a higher suicide rate?

And I'm sorry about the person you know but data isn't the plural of anecdote.
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>>90385400
Americans and people in former communist countries are heavily indoctrinated with anti-left propaganda while growing up.
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>>90385427
>in former communist countries are heavily indoctrinated with anti-left propaganda
>propaganda

Irony: the post
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>>90385453
there's a difference between saying that authoritarianism is bad and looking at anything even vaguely connected to "the left" as satanic
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>>90378546
>whatever bullshit someone spins in front of me must be right because a bunch of bozos with degrees in pseudosciences have repeated it for decades
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>>90358461

I am really impressed with the Ms America art, they really nail the uncanny valley trans face
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>>90385400
What's your A/S/L?
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>>90383930
Gender has always been synonymous with sex unless you went into obscure leftist dogma. What you're talking about is called gender roles.
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>>90383013
Man you people really are trying to turn around the word triggered on others.
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>>90385685
triggered by triggering
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>>90385473
>>90385473
But authoritarianism we never gave two shits about (slav here). We got it many times and prospered. It's precisely "the left" that fucked or try to fucked us over quite a few times in the last 70 years so - unlike western europe who never had any real experience with the left-wing endgame - we have a fucking good reason to hate it.
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>>90364694
Yes of course, it's only a "joke"
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>when the /co/mblr user insulting and belittling you hasn't read Gulag Archipelago
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>>90385719
>But authoritarianism we never gave two shits about (slav here).
(I'm the guy you're replying to)
I'm a slav too and we definitely gave a shit about authoritarianism. And it's not the left-wing endgame dumbass. Authoritarianism can be both left and right wing.
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>>90385427
>former communist countries
>are heavily indoctrinated with anti-left propaganda

Of geeze I wonder why.
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>>90385699
>Every response to me means people are triggered
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>>90358461
>turning Prodigy into a faggot
>cool
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>>90385781
>this word is mine, those words are yours
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>>90385427
>former communist countries are heavily indoctrinated with anti-left propaganda
Maybe because the left ruined those countries?
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>>90380057
>pretty fun and lightheart
I don't know, killing all dinosaurs was a nasty move
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>>90385813
>>90385770
No, it's for the same reason that they indoctrinated people with communist propaganda in those same countries - control.
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>>90385304
>>90385407
>>90385345
He's not bullshitting.

That experiment is fucking INFAMOUS. The guy was banned from trying to run it by a medical board, but he went ahead with it anyway. He pretended he was legit to the parents. It ended in the suicide of both kids because he was CONVINCED you could simply will someone's sexual identity different. He did everything he could to force the issue to no avail.

To be specific, if it's the experiment I think he's talking about, it's two brothers. One was raised as a girl since infancy. Even the other brother was unaware it wasn't a sister he had but a brother. The idea was to prove you could simply raise someone however you want and they'd act that way.

Ended up not being the case. With permanent and lethal consequences for the sibblings.
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>>90385861
It's supposed to be this, I think:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
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>>90385971
Oh great, now I know two completely different but similar atrocities happened.

Fantastic.
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>>90386033
So it's not the one you were talking about? How do you know?
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>>90358461
Tell me isn't a edit.
Seems deep space retarded
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>>90386033
One of them the one in the Midwest where a "Doctor" encouraged something similar to a preteen with a similar hypothesis?
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>>90386071
Nah, it's real. There are a few other things like it. She swears to Princess Leia at one point.
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>>90386077
>>90386058
Documentary I saw years ago. Back when informative documentaries were made rather than shows about pawn shops.

A doctor wanted to run an experiment where he'd raise a set of twins where one was raised as the opposite gender and the other left as a control. No one would know except the parents and him, and the 'control' lead to believe he had a sister. This would be carried out from infancy. The goal was to find out if gender identity was inherent or learned. Of course, the medical field already had a good idea that messing with people's minds like this was a bad idea, and of course doing it to children was unethical. His proposal was refused and he was forbidden from perusing it.

Whole thing goes to complete shit. He went ahead with it secretly and pretended to some parents he was legit and had approval for the whole thing. Lots of fucked up stuff happen, but it ends with the control brother being the one to kill himself first rather than the boy forced to believe he was a girl. He simply couldn't cope with the truth he'd never had a sister in the first place. The other killed himself some time later after the documentary was completed. He was recieving psychological help, but simply couldn't come to terms with his identity int he end.

This would have been an otherwise normal family. Neither brother was trans.
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>>90386285
The worst part of the whole story is that the doctor refused to take the blame for it, said his mental problems were the midia's fault for making his whole situation public and never faced legal consequences for this
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>>90386285
I think it's the same case because the details (brother killing himself before the "sister") are practically the same. Plus it's a famous case that had books written and documentaries made about it and you did say you watched a documentary about it.
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>>90386369
>>90386344
Probably the same.

He dragged in a transexual to try to convince him to transition without actually saying what was happening or saying it was to make him a girl. Talking about it in the most round about way possible as to not give up the truth to the boy.

Fuck anyone who says gender is a social construct. There are certain things associated with it that are bullshit, but gender itself is real and shouldn't be fucked with casually.
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>>90374264
Careful.
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>>90385526
>It's completely impossible that countless academics over the course of nearly a century can be right about something that they've dedicated their lives to the study of because I don't really like the sound of all that despite having given it no real amount of research

And don't give me the "gender studies" meme either because it's far from just confined to that area of study.
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>>90386633
>a LEGION of intelligent, well-researched supporters cannot carry on a bullshit meme for a ridiculous amount of time because that's just not possible

So you've never heard of magnetic thinking? How about Christianity?

Ultimately though, the reason why you lose this dipshitted argument is that we can sit around and point out the specific and flawed natures of the foundational experiments supporting transitioning and gender identity with names, dates and results (John Money, David Reimer), and all you can do is type

>m-m-muh countless academics I can't even name!

You are essentially just a shell container for bad memes that kill people.
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>>90386723
But I haven't said anything about transitioning or gender identity, I haven't even said that more than two genders exist. All I've stated is that a persons gender, and all the weight, expectations, behaviours and roles in society are a social construct.

How a person views themselves is absolutely a social construct. Given that the societal expectations of both men and women can differ wildly from place to place on the planet today, let alone in one place at differing points in history is evidence of this.

Sex is determined by your genitals.

Gender is the social expression of that sex, and how it is expressed is absolutely a societal construct.
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>>90386285

You missed a few points. The boy originally had a botched circumcision, and the doctor wanted to use it as an opportunity to prove gender is just a construct.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
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>>90361513
That leads to another question as well. HOW DO THEY REPRODUCE IF THERE ARE NO MEN?!?!?
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>>90386900
Yeah, usually they "miss" a point or two. Like saying that a kid with a BURNED OFF DICK would have had a perfectly normal life.
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>>90386900
It's also worth pointing out that the actions of a lone nutter don't necessarily correlate to proof given that he had no oversight and was being completely unethical in his practice.

I mean I'm not saying he's right in the slightest, or that if he'd just done things a little differently it would have all worked out, I'm just saying he's not exactly concrete evidence against the notion of gender being a learned notion.

He's clear evidence against it, but his work is hardly the silver bullet that kills the idea.
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>>90386901
Jew sorcery
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>>90386865
Okay do you actually have a definition for a social construct

Because it doesn't really carry a lot of weight to call something that.

Laws are are something I would call a social construct, those are good and have an objective reason to exist, like how killing and stealing from each other would be destructive to a society and so negating it is an objective good.

And if that's a social construct then hiw the fuck does gender being a social construct mean anything except that it's completely reasonable and objective for a man to typically act like a man and a woman to typically act like a woman? Or that the mutation of those norms would just be destructive, like how mutating the law to, say, murder and steal from a certain kind of people is legal would be destructive?
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>>90387022
It does though, because it's literally the basis of the entire theory in an experiment that right off the bat disproves it.

Like Freud wasn't 100% right about psychology but he got a good chunk of it on paper and proved enough of it for it to be a viable study with actual evidence and not just the ravings of a mommy fucking madman
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>>90387041
by your logic mutilating the law by abolishing slavery was "destructive"
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>>90387085
Not inherentlt, as the laws of slaves and the laws of citizens were different standards in the eye if the state.

Same way the standards for heterosexuals and homosexuals are kind of different.

In any case you still haven't told me what a social construct actually is, otherwise I wouldn't be making loops in allegorical logic to figure out what the fuck you're trying to say.
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What even is this thread anymore?
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>>90387139
I haven't told you what a social construct is because I'm not the person you were talking to
and isn't it your job to define what a social construct is since you're the one criticizing it
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>>90387041
social construct
noun
a social mechanism, phenomenon, or category created and developed by society; a perception of an individual, group, or idea that is 'constructed' through cultural or social practice

How a woman views herself, or is expected to act or behave in Saudia Arabia is very different to how a woman in America might. This is because the notion of what her gender is and everything that comes with it is a social construct.

I'm not arguing that is isn't completely reasonable for a man to typically act like a man or a woman typically act like a woman. I'm saying that what makes their actions be seen as typically male or female is a social construct.

Women wear make up, men typically don't in modern western society, but at various points in history it would have been perfectly acceptable and even expected of some men to wear make up. Why? Because those notions of what is a masculine act and what is a feminine act are set by society socially coming to an agreement on what is defined as which.

I'm not arguing in favour of trans people, or the defiance of social norms. I'm arguing that gender and how we define what is male and female, is a social expression of a persons sex which is defined by their genitals and that is a social construct.

Contrary to what many liberals would have you believe, the idea of gender being a social construct and the idea of being gender fluid as acceptable or what have you are not synonymous.
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You ever think the writer and the fans of this stuff actually believe that this will be in an MCU film? Like a Young Avengers film that exactly like Vol 2?
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>>90387156
Look up Buzz Aldrin's Instagram page.
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>>90387156
People trying to shoot down the human right to do whatever the fuck you want with your body by associating it with the actions of lunatics.
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>>90387156
It's become the usual pseudo-historical/political sciences speculatory mess these threads tend to become. Complete with some pompous anon that's been popping up in a few similar threads recently, whose head so far up his own ass he could probably see outside his own mouth.
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>>90387308
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It seems like both sides of the debate in this thread have accepted the idea that trans ans nonbinary gender identities are this modern creation of social engineering but genders besides male and female have existed around the world and throughout history.
This is not a futuristic experiment, this is not "improving on nature," this is acknowledging exceptions and ambiguities that have been recognized since before recorded history.
If there's a modern sickness, it's the idea that you can force everyone to identify as either male or female.
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>>90387862
This is the dumbest post in this thread. Jesus Christ.
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>>90388059
>This is dumb
What a persuasive rebuttal
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>>90365476
>I can't wait for these precious snowflakes to meet the blowtorches of reality
When they do it ain't pretty. Usually after they have a few good bouts of [autistic screeching] they validate the Patriots from Metal Gear, sealing themselves off in echo chambers, unable to reconcile the fact they were duped into collegiate ideology. Eventually most will either grow out of it or a few stay socially crippled. What a waste, what a shame.
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So have we given up on policing gender roles or is that what comes after the matters of pronouns and identities and feelings is settled?
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>>90387862
>genders besides male and female have existed around the world and throughout history.
What does "gender" even mean here?
Like, if you say that "sex" is the physical sexual characteristics and "gender" is the expectations society places on you based on your sex, that's fine. I can understand that dichotomy. But now you're saying that gender doesn't necessarily correspond to sex. What is it, then? What defines it? Is it just the expectations society places on you in general? Because we already have a term for that. "Societal expectations" is a mouthful, sure, but that's no excuse to make up a new word.
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>>90388294
Gender isn't just external expectations, it's also interior identity and self-expression.
This is only confusing because you're used to thinking of the social differences between men and women, behavioral preferences as inseparable from biology, anatomy, "sex." Even though I'm sure you're aware that you don't need a vagina to paint your nails or pierce your ears.
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>>90388428
Or to put it a bit more generally, you're familiar with the concepts of "masculine women" and "feminine men." The fact that such distinctions between people of the same sex is possible should tell you that you're not redefining gender by acknowledging that it is about more than just sex.
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>>90388482
>B-but its something liberals say so it must be wrong!
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>>90379817
This.
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>>90388522
It seems like you're saying I made a good point. If so, thank you Mr. Kornheiser
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>>90388428
>you don't need a vagina to paint your nails or pierce your ears.
Ear piercing is a unisex activity.

Nail painting is primarily a female activity. You don't need a vagina to paint your nails, but the female sex is the prinary consumer base of nail polish.

It all comes back to sex in the end.
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>>90358559
How....how is 'Sweet Christmas' racist in any way? Even if you're mocking him, that doesn't automatically make it racist.

Saying you're the nigger probably is though
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>>90388428
The social differences between men and women, with "men" defined as humans of the male sex and "women" of the female sex, are by definition inseparable from biology. If "men" and "women" refer to genders, we come back to what "gender" is supposed to mean.
>>90388482
You can't REdefine gender if you haven't defined it in the first place! I take "feminine man" to mean a man who behaves in a way I have previously associated with women. What part of this is the "gender"? The set of behavioural patterns I associate with males or females? Can't be that, since you're saying that it's not necessarily about sex. ANY possible set of behavioural patterns?
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>>90365443
Then you're obvious a 90 kid.
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>>90385674
That's an interesting way to take defense without actually applying any defense
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>>90388286
>feelings
You better run all day, and run all night.
Keep your dirty feelings deep inside...
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>>90363430
>say "white" with a lot of venom each day.
>race is a social construct
I've always found this amusing
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>>90358559
I once started saying "howdy" when drunk, and now I say it without even meaning to.

I live in philadelphia
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>>90387195
>Implying it ever will
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>>90388867
You're just being obtuse. Your model can't explain gender nonconformity. It only makes sense if people of the same sex behaved in total uniformity, in total distinction from another sex.
How do you explain why, for example, some male-sexed people paint their nails and some female-sexed people do not? How is it that there is more than one way to act "like a man" or "like a woman" if sex determines behavior with total consistency and there are only two sexes?
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https://themalefactor.com/2016/12/24/this-is-how-a-norwegian-comedian-exposed-feminist-gender-specialists-and-proved-them-idiots/

Friendly reminder to watch Hjernevask. Pretty sure it's still on Youtube.
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>>90389386
* Gender consists of these distinctions of behavior that can cross the boundaries of sex
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>>90389412
>The Male Factor
>On behalf of the ignored gender
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>90389567
Hook, line and sinker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4&list=PLd9_g7lAICxtlGbxh4_z8ik178o8CDPnv
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>>90379724
kek
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>>90380345
because most of them aren't even interested in going out, they arent waiting for a big dicked foreinger to come maket hem a woman, they rather chill withtheir friends and not worry with couple issues, this is true even among couples, when duringthe weekend or vacations both would rather goout with their friends thanwiththeir lover. that's why birth rates aresolow in Japan.
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>>90389766
Japan sounds like equal parts paradise and hell because of how they treat relationships
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>>90376848
I am white, but I believe I am black therefor I am black then right?

I'm a human being, but I identify as a wolf so you must address me as a wolf right?
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>>90389766

Got cheeto dust in your space bar or some shit?

Japan looks nice from a distance, but their culture is super fucked up.

>racism against koreans
>racism again'st half-japanese
>chronic depression is viewed similarly to being insane
>Over working employees is viewed as a positive

It's a nice place to visit though, hope they start doing better population-wise
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>>90389386
>asking someone to explain his terminology
>obtuse
You used a word in a way that the meaning wasn't obvious to me so I'd like you to tell me what you meant by it. I don't think it's an unreasonable request.

Like, I understand the word "gender" as the social ramifications of biological sex. This is not meant as an argument about what GENDER is meant to BE, just an explanation of how I normally use the word. If you say that
>genders besides male and female have existed around the world and throughout history.
that could be understood, depending on what "gender" means, as anything from "human psychology is affected by other factors besides biological sex" to "all humans can be divided into discrete categories, whose behaviours can be accurately predicted, and the number of categories is greater than two".
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>>90385131
He's a blowhard, but is he really wrong? The Marxists were very explicit about wanting to destroy traditional cultural structures. Replacing family functions and institutions with state collective ones. 90 seconds with Mao's red book would show you that. It's a central part of the base and superstructure dialectic.

Denying it is insluting to marxists.

>>90385400
For the same reason the other guys like to use "Nazi" for things that are vaguely right wing.

>>90385736
There should be a comic book version of that. Or one of his works.
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>>90387862
No. Postmodern gender constructs are the result of political maneuvering. It has much more to do with postmodern theory than any of the historical traditions.

The biggest conceptual change is the idea that equal rights means treating all the new nuclear postmodern pairings as equal, and a replacement for traditional families.

A simple example" the old greek and Japanese traditions were literally pederasty and not even a family structure.

I mean the idea of romantic love coming first is only a few hundred years old.

>>90388286
>So have we given up on policing gender roles
Oh hell fuck no. The current flavor of the week is Trans, and they've got the biggest T-bone steak boner for policing gender roles this side of the mormon church.
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>>90379758
whata idiot heh
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>>90390187
In my original post >>90387862
I compared indigenous additional genders to modern western trans and nonbinary identities. That could have been your clue I was talking about gender as distinct from sex, but maybe you missed that.
Then I said as much in >>90388428, describing gender without mentioning sex.
You asked how gender can exist independent of sex, and I laid out a case that the variance of gender expression *within* the sex binary is evidence of gender existing independent of sex.
I don't see where or how I've been unreasonably vague.
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>>90375369
>I think it's basically them trying to take back the term and point out that it's a perfectly natural occurrence and nothing to be ashamed about at all.
I still find weird when some girl friend says things like she wants to fart or that she's constipated.
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>>90390725
>Trans have got the biggest T-bone steak boner for policing gender roles
Yeah, reinforcing gender stereotypes is all transgender people do -- accept when they don't, and then no one knows what they're trying to accomplish, even though there's a consistent demand for the individual right to determine one's own gender identity and have it respected by others, rather than be open to judgement about how "fake" or "real" their identity is.
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>>90379598
I'd say there's a difference between some guys hanging out and making dick jokes towards each other, and going out to dinner with a group of friends and starting a conversation with "So the other day, my dick...".
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>>90391224
Yes, we have established that gender is not sex. This however does not explain what gender IS. It's really not much to go on.

Do you even know yourself? You said in >>90388428 that it's "external expectations, interior identity and self-expression", and that sounds exactly like the kind of vague, wishy-washy bullshit you make up on the spot when you really believe in something you've been told but have never stopped to think what it actually means. You hear something that sounds really compelling, for example "God is Love", and wind up thinking of it as true without ever understanding what it says.

"Gender" describes a person's WHAT? Societal role and self-perception? Is "telemarketer" a gender? Why is it so difficult for you to describe the meaning of a simple word you use regularly?
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>>90393049
>You said in >>90388428 that it's "external expectations, interior identity and self-expression", and that sounds exactly like the kind of vague, wishy-washy bullshit you make up on the spot when you really believe in something you've been told but have never stopped to think what it actually means
Not that anon but those terms seem very clear to me. Maybe you're just bothered by them because they describe abstract concepts and constructs, and maybe you're the kind of person who thinks something being abstract means they're not real.

I mean let's face it, every attempt at putting a construct around sex and gender has been based on equally wishy washy ideas and generalizations. Some people just acknowledge that and take it as it is. Being- to borrow a term from the Matrix- "red pilled", if you will.

>Is "telemarketer" a gender?
That's a job.
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>>90373689
You don't talk about how hard you nutted with your bros? Not even how many times you stroked before you blew a load? Or how about when you think you're going to have a really good piss and then suddenly the streams split?

What are you gay?
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>>90376848
Thinking Gender is a Social Construct and there are more than 2 is itself a social construct
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>>90376848

If its a social construct, why does every society always stop at two genders only? The only exceptions seems to be when all basic needs are met and it enters first world problems territory.

Even gender roles vary from place to place.
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>>90393332
>why does every society always stop at two genders only
1. doesn't thailand have more than 2 gender identities
2. for the same reason almost every society has tried to stamp out homosexuality - primitive understanding of the human condition
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>>90376848
Gender and sex used to be synonyms. Separating them is the social construct.
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>>90393332
>If its a social construct, why does every society always stop at two genders only?

There are dozens of cultures which are centuries or in some cases millennia old, which have always had more than two genders. Surprise, not every culture is suburban 21st century America.
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>>90374083
Me and my best friend on occasions, we'll complain about cramps and how our periods are annoying and painful to us.

Only once did we talk about tampons and pads and it was mostly us talking which ones were better.

Menstruation tho? Not really, not directly at least.

Aside from that I've never talked to anyone about my period, aside from my parents when I was a kid (and writing about it here I guess) my mother on my first days, and my dad who told me when I was 8 who told me what a period was and then warned me about it.
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>>90393332
>why does every society always stop at two genders only?
nigga what

>In contrast to the two-gender system of Western society, Bugis society recognises five genders: makkunrai, oroané, bissu, calabai, and calalai.

>it was already recognized by some at that point that in pre-Columbian American societies and in pre-slavery Africa, a third gender was socially recognised (e.g. Muxe, Two-Spirits, Cogender), until they were supplanted by the dominant Western views on gender (in which both alternative gender expressions and those adopting them were then classified as deviant)

>Mukhannathun (مخنثون "effeminate ones", "men who resemble women", singular mukhannath) is Classical Arabic, an ancient antecedent to the modern conception of transgender women, who, as time went on, were forced to be castrated.
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>>90373689
>has an aneurysm at the mere mention of tampons and periods

>wonders why feminists bring up tampons and periods a lot

Maybe because it turns dudes like you into hyper-triggered instant Lolcows?
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>>90393458
>primitive understanding of the human condition
More like now we just have too much time on our hands to reconsider basic concepts. Homosexuality is still a "disease" in the basic sense of the word. It is aberrant behavior that hinders reproduction. If our population wasn't steady enough as it is, we wouldn't be wrong to seek methods of curing it.
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>>90393601
>It is aberrant behavior that hinders reproduction

So is being a redpiller neckbeard, and yet here you are.
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>>90393601
>More like now we just have too much time on our hands to reconsider basic concepts.
nope, more like the west has been slowly removing itself from the clutches of christian social notions for the last 100 or so years
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>>90393671
I'm not from /pol/ at all, but nice kneejerk reaction right there.

>>90393692
>nope
Nice job contradicting anything I said.
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>>90393332
>If its a social construct, why does every society always stop at two genders only?
There are several that don't, are you serious?

>The only exceptions seems to be when all basic needs are met and it enters first world problems territory.
Many of them are seriously not even close to that. But then again I'm sure you can find a way to spin that into a negative, too.
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>>90373689
It's pretty simple, anon

Girls spend years being grossed out by dudes, intentionally or otherwise. Be they friends, relatives, mates, girls cringe easy at what guys do

That resentment builds up until they can talk about nothing but bodily functions
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>>90393720
>But then again I'm sure you can find a way to spin that into a negative, too.

>Modern society has more than one gender
>"Only because they're so PAMPERED and LOOKING for shit to stir"
>A more primitive society has more than one gender
>"Only because they're so IGNORANT and BACKWARDS"
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>>90393706
>Nice job contradicting anything I said.
there's a difference between "we have too much time on our hands and are keeping ourselves amused with all this civil rights bullshit" and "we're slowly removing ourselves from the clutches of christian social notions"
one is dumb, the other isn't
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>>90393595
>>90393458
>>90393537
Learned something new. Transgenders being persecuted and/or hiding I know happened a lot.

>>90393720
Yes I was. But go fuck off into your trump pitty party if you got nothing to contribute.
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>>90393769
>one is dumb, the other isn't
I agree.
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>>90393601
>It is aberrant behavior that hinders reproduction.
It is widely known and acknowledged that homosexual couplings adopting children who have been abandoned or orphaned are an essential part of humanity's ability to not die out.

Reproduction means nothing if those children aren't taken care of up to the age when they themselves can reproduce.
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>>90393775
>Yes I was. But go fuck off into your trump pitty party if you got nothing to contribute.
What's the matter, can't handle the banter
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>>90393537
Those cultures are either DEAD or have been heavily influenced by our.
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>>90393807
So you're arguing it's an evolutionary development. That seems really improbable. When in human history was homosexual caretakers happened in such frequency that it prevented us from dying out?
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>>90393807
Didn't they do a survey recently that showed that the overwhelming majority of gay raised children turned out to be extremely emotionally stunted and on anti depressant medication?
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>>90373689
I may write something like that ironically if my book starred a bunch of roided out dudes, though.
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>>90393775
>Learned something new.
This one was surprising:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femminiello
since Italian culture is very macho and shit like that
>It has been noted that this term is not derogatory and does not carry stigma, instead femminielli are traditionally believed to bring luck.
thought they aren't trans, they're their own thing I guess
one was even a mafia capo according to the wiki
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>>90358461

What the holy menstruation do u mean
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>>90393860
>those cultures are dead

Wait, Mexico doesn't exist anymore? Shit, someone better tell Trump before he builds a wall to protect us from nothing.
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>>90393537
So any nation that has a word for feminine males or masculine females counts has having some kind of fully integrated extra gender? That seems kind of slanted.
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>>90393860
you do understand that "our" influence consisted of shunning those non-binary genders? it's not like the colonizers came into nigeria and told them they're all trans now. or the american pilgrims forced indians to accept transgenders/non-binary folks?

>>90393888
isn't it logical that people who are shunned by society will be prey to depression and suicide?
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>>90393860
>or have been heavily influenced by our.
That does not make those ideas any less valid, or existent for that matter.

>>90393870
>That seems really improbable.
All you have to do is look at some current animal species and observe the many roles homosexuality plays there:

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals

One particularly relevant example, the Laysan albatross:

>Among these huge birds, pairs are usually "married" for life. It takes two parents working together to rear a chick successfully, and doing so repeatedly means that the parents can hone their skills together. But in one population on the island of Oahu, 31% of the pairings are made up of two unrelated females. What's more, they rear chicks, fathered by males that are already in a committed pair but which sneak matings with one or both of the females. Like male-female pairs, these female-female pairs can only rear one chick in a season.
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>>90383930
Gender roles, that's the phrase you're looking for, faggot. Gender and sex are synonymous, the English language tends to have synonyms.
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>>90394032
It does seems slanted when you interpret it with a slant, like you're doing.
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>>90394049
I don't think reproducing concubines really supports your argument.
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>>90394096
Does "twink" or "pansy-ass" constitute extra genders?
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>>90376848
I cant wait for the trans-racial debate where you can be black while being white.
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>>90363430
>and how race literally isn't real in other countries and only USA views it black or white based on appearance. In other countries you cam put on a suit and be white, or you can make yourself black.
That is kind of true though. In the US you're either white or black. But in Europe "white" isn't as important a distinction as are the different distinctions among the so called white people. So in the US an Irishmen, a Slav, an Anglo-Saxon, and a Southern European are all white but back in Europe they notice the difference between each other so them being "white" is a less salient category.

Also in Brazil the classification between white and blacks is different as well. In the US we used to use the one drop rule; if you had any nigger blood in you you were a nigger. But in Brazil their racists preferred to mix with the Africans to dilute their Africanness so now they have a mixed population that is far larger than their pure black one. Its a distinct category there in a way that it isn't here where even mixed people tend to be considered black. And really light skinned mulattoes can, if they're successful enough and act in the right way, blend into white society in a way that is a lot harder in the US.
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>>90394167
I understand what you're going for but those aren't equivalents. A twink and a pansy-ass are slang/insult. And they're not indicative of the gender role the person has.
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>>90394343
Can you be certain the others aren't the same? It straight up says on that page "the degree they are accepted varies." Some of them could be very derogatory.
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>>90393150
>every attempt at putting a construct around sex and gender has been based on equally wishy washy ideas and generalizations
Human sexuality is a straightforward biological process. Ain't nothing generalized about it. It only gets wishy-washy once you consider the psychological and social dimensions. Y'know, the whole sex-gender divide.

Still, even in sociology, if you think it's worth using a term to describe something, you should be able to explain what it means. What's even the point, otherwise?
>A "gender" is a social role in the context of reproduction and sexuality
or
>A person's "gender" describes his or her sexual behaviour
or
>A person's "gender" means the social and psychological connotations of his or her sex
or
>A person's "gender" means whatever he or she declares it to mean

Not all definitions are equally useful.
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>>90394343
Not him, but do "traps" qualify?
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>>90394414
What you're actually saying is "I know that the dictionary says fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the exothermic chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products but how can I be sure of that?"
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>>90394528
Qualify for what? A trap is a transvestite, that's all.
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>>90378252
I'm actually reading a pretty fascinating book on harem women in 18th century Cairo. Their contribution to society was ignored because Westerners assumed harem women had no power and were essentially chattel to their husbands/masters but in fact there's a large record of their investments in the commercial economy and would often fund the building of public bathes, water fountains and schools.

Point being, sometimes for you to know you have to look.
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>>90394542
Alright wiseass. What is this supposed "third gender's" role in their society that it warrants being defined as a gender and not just a trait? If it really exists as a gender and not just slang, which hasn't really been proven yet, by the way.
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>>90393537

Forgive me for being a troglodyte but I am genuinely looking for an answer here. This text describes the non-binary genders as being typically either men living in a way seen as feminine or women living in a way seen as masculine. I have also heard much repetition of gender being a social construct.

Western social movements have been championing that the sexes are equal and that women (and men by extension) should not be confined by social expectations assigned to them by traditional gender roles. What I see in these other cultures with more than two genders is that these cultures thought it was behavior rather than physicality that define gender.

From my perspective, the logical conclusion of Western values would be a society where XX-Chromosome and XY-Chromosome humans (and anyone else) can affect any behavior they desire without being put into a box that defines what their behavior should be. What I see now is pushing for an ever expanding number of boxes that we can opt in or out of. This seems completely counter? A bizarre, sexist boomerang. How did we go from, "being forced to act like a woman if you are a woman is oppression," to, "I am okay with you being a woman because you act like one?"
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>>90394678
Thank you for saying it. This is the fundamental problem with this issue.
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>>90394652
Do I sound like a social scientist? All I'm saying is I tend to give more credence to wikipedia and/or actual researchers than some guy on 4chan.
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>>90394678
>This seems completely counter?
It's necessary because it's a reaction to a culture that still requires these boxes and still struggle with the idea of there being more than two, and needs to communicate to that culture.
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>>90394766
>Do I sound like a social scientist?
Maybe. It doesn't appear to be a very exclusive club, not being a real science after all.
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>>90394766
>humanities "researchers"
Sociologists aren't real scientists.

For all you know, Anon could be.
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>>90394822
>>90394874
Ah, STEMtards. You should've said so right away.
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>>90394808
It's doing a very poor job since most everyone thinks these people who list 50 different genders are complete nutjobs.
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>>90394915
Whatever helps you dismiss rational thought.
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>>90394678
>What I see now is pushing for an ever expanding number of boxes that we can opt in or out of.
I'm sorry but this is only if you think life is the same as some nutty tumblr. Right now some folks are pushing for the right to jump from one box to another (male to female and vice versa) and that's all.
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>>90394808
>tumblr was actually just a metaphor
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>>90394964
>rational thought
idiot who fetisihize their "rationality" are usually the least rational people in the world
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>>90395002
>the right
Is it a right though?
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>>90358664
>Dresden files

WE NEED MORE GRAPHIC NOVELS, JIM.
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>>90395047
People who don't base their opinions on empirical data are usually wrong.
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>>90395047
I could have sworn the people arguing their fetishes are real extra genders would qualify more for that criticism.
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>>90395052
It is if enought people agree it is. Just like any other right.
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>>90360773
Tumblr talks like this. Ironically seriously.
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>>90395109
So if enough people agree it isn't, they're also right? That is what you're saying, correct?
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>>90394808

How is that difficult to explain? By my logic that makes seven categories.

Males who obey the law of averages and act roughly how we think men act. Females who are the same. Females who do not obey the law of averages who's behavior falls in line with the Male average. The male equivalent. Males who's behavior is not average of males or females. Females who's behavior is average of males of females. Intersex individuals who have no perceived average behavior because there is no general consensus as to how these individuals behave.

That seems like the logical middle-step of perception to me. It doesn't violate the rules set in place by the previous cultural movements.
>>
No.
"Being right" and "having a right" isn't the same, for fuck's sake, it's not the same word.
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>>90395099
Wait, that's "rationalizing the fetishes." I'd consider those people pretty irrational though.
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>>90363428
Fear The Old Blood.
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>>90395186
This:
>>90395142
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>>90395207
Jesus Christ I fucked that up.
This:
>>90395186
is an answer to this:
>>90395142
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>>90395163

Little correction.

>>Females who's behavior is NOT an average of males OR females.
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>>90395186
>>90395262
But you (or a different anon) asserted here
>>90395109
that as long as people agree, it's their right. So naturally conversely "if people don't agree it's their right, it isn't.
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>>90394424
>Human sexuality is a straightforward biological process. Ain't nothing generalized about it. It only gets wishy-washy once you consider the psychological and social dimensions. Y'know, the whole sex-gender divide.
This sounds a lot like what >>90393150 said -- you don't like the complexities of gender so you'd rather just ignore them.
How do you think being transgender even works?
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>>90395408
Lots of people dismiss nonsense. Someone asserting something is actually super complicated doesn't make it true just because it's harder to explain.
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>>90395566
I'd rather believe that the gender identities of real people are valid and subscribe to a definition of gender broad enough to encompass them than dismiss it all as nonsense.
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>>90395696
Cool? As long as you admit it's just preference I guess.
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>>90395747
Neither am I impressed by the intellect of people who would rather ignore exceptions to preserve tidy, exclusionary "facts"
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>>90358461

Serious question:

How is the mindset behind this panel any less out of touch than some stereotypical Jesusfreak caricature?

If we had Marvel Comics where "cool" characters were quoting Proverbs, would that not be slightly less cringey than what we've got here?
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>>90395790
Horseshoe theory at full force, anon
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>>90395785
You accidentally put some quotation marks over facts, instead of "exceptions"
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>>90395790
Marvel did that, too.
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>>90358461
Nah just wait a little bit more
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>>90395844
How exactly are transgender identities not exceptions to the idea that there is no distinction between gender, sex and sexuality? I'd like to hear your explanation
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>>90375617
That was pretty great. Thanks for sharing, anon!
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>>90363544
My sister was raped by some nigger sex traffickers in Africa. They took her and her white friend, and left the two black girls they were with behind.
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>>90395408
>How do you think being transgender even works?
Body dysphoria? Like, you feel that you're body's supposed to be a different shape than it is. The actual mechanism isn't known. It shouldn't really be a question of gender politics, it's an actual psychological problem. Quite a nasty one, judging from the suicides.
>>
Can storytime anon come back?
That webcomic was the most interesting thing in the thread.
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>>90396568
How about nonbinary people who don't experience dysphoria but don't identify as male or female
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>>90396745
If they don't experience dysphoria, why do they feel the need to identify as something other than what is in their pants? What is the point of being so fickle?
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>>90395901
It's... yeah, it's not really a question of identity. You legit feel that your genitals are an unnatural growth that shouldn't exist.
You don't usually notice it, but you actually have a really good sense of the space your body occupies. You can touch your fingers together with your eyes closed and all that. Sometimes, it doesn't work right, and you have people feeling, on a deep and visceral level, that their own left leg shouldn't be attached to them.

>>90396745
I think they're a good example of why the whole gender/sex divide is silly. It doesn't matter what they identify as. If you were born a boy and believe yourself to be a neuter, then you are factually incorrect.
It's not for me to judge if they want to dress androgynously and assign themselves arbitrary labels, but don't expect me to learn any new pronouns.
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>>90397205
the dumbest part is that nonbinary and transgender types are just pushing away one box and accepting another
your physical body shouldn't affect how you live, how you think, how you are treated, etc. it should be irrelevant what is in your pants
the fact that it does change things is a symptom of societys inability to function without labeling everything
and transgenders and the like are simply choosing another label and trying to fit themselves into it
its different and scares old people but it's just as much a stereotyped box as thinking girls only play with dolls
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>>90358461
>/co/ is out of touch with society: the thread

This is what is in now.
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>>90400902
This is not a society that deserves to live then.

Fucking end it.
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>>90401198

It's not society that needs to end, it's the primitive thinking that threatens those who are not straight or white.
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>>90401298
> it's the primitive thinking that threatens those who are not straight or white.

You're right, you primitives really do need to start thinking more like the straight whites.
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>>90358461
What hero is this?

Haven't heard of her yet.
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>>90379336
>TFW only know about it because of JohnOfE
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>>90363344
matriarchies are just as conservative as patriarchies. be a leftist and resist both
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>>90373689
did you say the word "fuck" in a post about menstruation?

you're concerned about dirty language or inappropriate subject matter?
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>>90375926
you just brought it up as part of an argument for sanity
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>>90377063
>>90377312
>>90377819
>>90378404
>>90383976
>>90390061
>>90393268
>>90393332
>>90393493
>>90394254

do you "identify" as christian"? good thing i don't give a shit because god doesn't exist.

http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

for those of you who weren't aware, there are people born with mixed genitalia, or brains not connected to the genitalia they have. ancient society has always seen this, and in the 20th century babies who were born with both sets or ambiguous genitalia just got their giblets butchered by conservative shitstain doctors and then had a gender identity forced on them by parents with no fucking clue or understanding about what was actually happening. modern society is just now being re-awoken to the reality of gender fluidity. it is real. as any anthropologist and they will tell you that various tribes and aboriginal peoples had words for what we call transgender

http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-six-genders-in-classical-judaism.html
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>>90406223
Anon intersex individuals are still either male or female based on the presence of a Y chromosome
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>>90406223
You tipped your hand a little early there, friend
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>>90406259
>based on the presence of a Y chromosome
your point being?

Y chromosomes do not dictate sexual preference, idiom, tastes, habits or hobbies

quick question: how do you propose that people get blood tested before walking in to a bathroom? you think we should all pay taxes for that shit?
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>>90406344
how? why should i placate your beliefs about yourself when god doesn't exist? it's a fair question. you think you're special, snowflake?
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>>90395790
lol you think religious texts aren't fanfics?
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>>90406400
>you think you're special, snowflake?
The irony.
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>>90395939
>being attracted to another ethnicity
>racist

you can only choose one.

>white women are more profitable
gee, i wonder what kind of market would push that?
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>>90406541
that's what i was going for. all humans are born atheists. god is a social construct
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>>90358461
what in the holy god statutory rape of mary-ation?
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