Disney Parks thread

>>90323768
Is Avatar /co/?
and pretty meh, I'd say

>>90323768
That thumbnail makes it look like a creepy face is on the side of that thing.

it's a stupid idea that movie has been forgotten

How long before a Na'avi roleplayer gets arrested and hauled out for trying to live there?

>>90323768
I'm still waiting on avatar 2 it's been almost a decade

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That's not even the best thing Animal Kingdom got this year.

>>90323850
Render that time people got depressed that pandora wasn't real and there were never gonna live in a kickssd alien clone body and fuck blue godesses

Why the fuck was this made?
It's the most unnecessary addition to a theme park I've ever seen.

>>90323949
Harry Potter caught Disney management so off-guard that Bob Iger just scrambled to find any outsider IP that could be a counterattack and ended up settling on the most forgettable billion-dollar earner ever.

>>90323949
Disney put in a bid for Harry Potter theme park rights.
It was just Toy Story Mania with wands.
JK Rowling told them to fuck off with their weak ass pitch.
Universal Studios got the rights.
Disney panicked.
"What's this? Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time?! BUY IT"

That was years ago.

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Will Star Wars Land save the Disney Parks once Avatar Land flops?

Isn't James Cameron still threatening to do four sequels? What was that, almost ten years ago? The movie came out in fucking 2009.

>>90324078
Another bit of trivia: The Super Mario Bros movie back in the 90s was meant to be the first project between Disney and Nintendo (it was produced by Hollywood Pictures, one of the various studios Disney owned back in the 90s) and there were talks of a theme park deal to follow afterwards.

Then the movie came out, proceeded to be a fucking trainwreck, and Nintendo cut all ties with Disney. Hence why Sega became such a huge component of Epcot's Innoventions in the 90s and why when Nintendo decided to do theme park stuff again, they went with Universal.

>>90324058
It's almost surreal like it was here made a shitload of money than left like a hooker in the morning and no one heard of it again

>>90324138
Avatarland flopping won't hurt the parks division that badly. Magic Kingdom's been pulling most of the weight in Florida anyways.

Plus Avatar's a definite one and done. Oriental Land Company fucking laughed at them when they tried pitching it as a possible Tokyo Disney expansion too and that Adventure Isle section at Shanghai is basically an off-brand earthbound version of Pandora already.

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>At Animal Kingdom last summer
>Look up and see floating rocks over the trees
>Briefly think "Oh shit Zendikar"
>Remember it's Avatar
>Become extremely disappointed

Na'vi are just fucking weird to look at

>>90324470
That's actually the nice thing about Avatar. When Avatar 2 gets cancelled because James Cameron dies before shooting or something, Disney can just convert Avatarland into some variation on the original Beastly Kingdom concept they had for getting fantasy creatures into the park because Avatar was so goddamn derivative anyways. Reskin the banshees into griffins and pegasi or something, overlay the boat ride with Fantasia, and build the dragon's keep roller coaster and there you go.

Less the original storybook style fantasy world, more album cover fantasy world.

>>90324590
I thought Beastly Kingdom was scrapped because Islands of Adventure essentially beat them to it regarding most of the attractions

>>90323768
I think this is 7-8 years too late.

I'm curious, /co/, what do you think about this?

>Mini Area somewhere around Toontown or New Fantasyland
>4D theatre, Motion Sim, gift shop, meet n greet.
>All designed to be easily reskinned every few years
>TV characters go there.

What do you think? You'd rotate stuff out as shows come and go.

what other rides and areas would you guess want Disney to add?

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>>90324631
Essentially what happened was they could only get either Beastly Kingdom or Dinoland ready for launch and they went with Dinoland because of the Dinosaur movie. Some of the Imagineers on the project ended up jumping ship to Universal and brought some of those ideas with them.

Disney was tossing around ways to salvage the concept, including one that would have dipped more into the animation catalog or building a version of Tokyo DisneySea's Mysterious Island, but these fell to the wayside around early 2008.

Rivers of Light actually started development as a night parade during that same time, but the parade idea was scrapped because they'd have to mow down a lot of landscaping to expand the paths enough for viewing and crowd flow and that'd just fuck with the feeling the park was supposed to have. What's amazing is when they rebooted Rivers of Light as a water show, it ended up ditching the cartoon characters in favor of nature footage and mystical shaman stuff.

>>90324813
OK.
>Tear down the Magic Kingdom Speedway. Boom, you now have double the space to play with in Tomorrowland.
>Add Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom to the land with D0R-15, Turbo/King Candy, and the MCP as villains.
>Add a kickass Wreck It Ralph restaurant with themed dining rooms.
>Litwak Arcade Waiting area with real arcade games and replicas of the ones from the movie.
>Nicelanders' Garden Party.
>Sugar Rush Raceway Buffet
>Calhoun's Canteen.
>Each is immacuately decorated to resemble the areas from the movie.
>CGI characters caper around in projected backgrounds.
>Premium quality food. Not the cheap stuff.

>>90324951
>CGI characters caper around in projected backgrounds
fucking
GENIUS

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>>90324813
Bring Dreamfinder home to Epcot. Reincorporate elements of Horizons into different parts of Future World.

Replace the Dino-Rama carnival with a dark ride that actually uses the "Roadside Dinosaur tourist trap" concept correctly and functions like some prehistory hybrid of the Jungle Cruise and Mr Toad's Wild Ride.

Put that Mickey ride rumored as a Great Movie Ride replacement into the Animation Building instead.

>>90324951
>>90325062
That's actually a damn good idea I wish Disney would waste so many opportunities by not updating shit for a decade their Disney park innovation should be a constant thing

>>90324590
I hope this will happen but I'm worried it's just too optimistic.

I have a feeling Avatarland may stick around for a long damn time before any kind of retooling, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go with something almost as dumb as Avatar instead of deciding to actually do Beastly Kingdom.

Alright guys, questions for you.

I was originally planning an October-ish trip to Disneyworld, but once I started doing the math it was pretty scary, and I wasn't sure I could save up enough in time. So now, after talking with my family (when I was talking about the idea, they thought it sounded fun), we're ALL gonna go next spring.

1) There's currently some really good deal on 4 day parkhopper tickets; is that usually an annual thing? IE, can I hope for some kind of good deal on tickets next spring, too?

2) Is the discount in the spring worth the season, or will it be miserable/too busy? Would it be better to try to plan that family trip for October after all?

3) Whichever we go with, what's the best way to plan it out? Should I use some kind of travel agent (do those still exist?) or do all of it myself? How far out do I need to be booking stuff?

>>90324813
All I want is for Tangled to get more representation than a fucking bathroom

>>90324951
>use pocket change to hire people to figure out the average time tourists are in specific areas of the park
>create CGI clips of characters, fully voiced, for 110% of that average duration
>as people are walking by it feels like the park is really alive and full of Disney characters
>have it set on a timer so the CGI displays turn off when the costume actors are walking around to take pictures with the boys and girls

>>90325322
They wouldn't even have to hire people. Disney has park flow down to a science.

>See Tiana and Naveen having lunch in a cafe in New Orleans Square before getting spooked by a Haunted Mansion ghost.
>Rapunzel painting a mural in Fantasyland over the course of hours, with Eugene checking in on her and bringing her lemonade.
>Stitch getting into the wiring in Tomorrowland.

>>90324951
>Add a kickass Wreck It Ralph restaurant with themed dining rooms.
>Litwak Arcade Waiting area with real arcade games and replicas of the ones from the movie.

That would have been a good idea for Disney Quest

>>90325539
It's weird the never updated Disney quest the just shut it down

>>90325575
Disney Quest was a failed experiment. The idea was that they'd be a nationwide thing, but the Chicago one flopped, so they pulled the plug on the other ones they were planning to build.

They felt like it wasn't worth the effort to keep the surviving DisneyQuest up to date with new virtual rides and basically abandoned new development after opening the Pirates ride. Like to a point where Cyberspace Mountain's "Souvenir ride video" is still sold on VHS.

Did Disney every do anything at all with Oswald in Magic Kingdom?

>>90323768
Putting aside the whole "8 years too late" thing, I can see this doing pretty decently. Maybe not as good as Disney would want it to, but still better than we'd expect.

>>90326804
Not my knowledge, at least.

>>90325575
DisneyQuest is still open, but closing permanently "for real this time guys" this year. Considering they've announced it closing like three years in a row now, it's had a good run.
>>90326804
Besides merchandise, no. It's a shame because Oswald meeting in Hollywood Studios, at least, would be fun and actually make sense.

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Clarice has been sighted during Disney vacation club moonlight magic event in magic kingdom

>>90325181
Any advice?

>>90333038
This at Animal Kingdom? Haven't been in a while.

bumpin

>>90334056
Yeah, part of Rivers of Light. Show's presented as a lantern festival celebrating the natural world overseen by two elemental shamans and their apprentices. Animal spirits in the lanterns awaken and take us on a journey through the natural world, the aurora borealis (the rivers of light) and finally into the stars.

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How do we fix it /co/?

>>90334623
Already being done what with Star Wars and Toy Story expansions. Leave GMR out of it though. Mickey Ride should be a new build

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>tfw everytime you try to make one of these threads you only get like 10-20 replies
>>90323903
this is my shit
>>90334698
will that be enough?

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Reminding everyone that Rei is the best Disney princess at Disney World.

>>90324813
In light of the sudden push towards Marvel on the west coast, a couple of potentially crappy ideas have surfaced.

-Bring over the Tron Ride from Shanghai DL, and give it a Ghost Rider retheming.
-Bring back 'Adventure Thru Inner Space' with an Ant-Man motif.

>>90335961
>Ghost Rider
nowhere near a well enough known IP for a park ride. Iron Man would probably make more sense if it had to have a Marvel theme

My dad actually worked at the Festival of The Lion King show where Pandora is being built. Fucking James Cameron put my dad out of a job.

>>90335767
Is this the Japanese museum at Epcot?

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Just learned that the Tree of Life was built on an Off-Shore Oil rig. Kind of puts things into perspective.

>>90338185
They relocated the show to the Africa area

>>90339121
Really? Huh, My dad doesn't work at Disney anymore so I figured the place was permanently shut down.

>>90334623
Keep Tower of Terror pure

>>90340175

That's pretty much a guarantee due to the little hiccup involving Marvel's park rights east of the Rockies.

>>90340264
Gotg is actually one of the things they can use in Florida. In fact, it might be shoved into Energy at Epcot

>>90340175
it's only the California version that's getting the rebranding to GOTG

the original Florida version is still going to be twilight zone

>>90340919
i don't think they can use anything marvel in Florida because of something with the theme park rights

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>>90335961
can we just get the tron ride somewhere in the us?

People already at Animal Kingdom and locals will visit Avatarland, but no one is going to make a trip there like how people go to Universal specifically for Harry Potter or how people will go to Disneyland once Star Wars Land opens up. Thy will end up losing a lot of money n their investment. No one gives a single shit about Avatar anymore. People just mock it online for being forgettable.

>>90326804
He's a rare costumed character I believe.

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who screamin here?

I thought Cars Land would be stupid as shit and it turned out to be one of my favourite things in California Adventure despite hating Cars movies so who knows, Avatar Land might be alright.

>>90325760
It was a pleasant surprise to stumble across it when I went with my family a few years ago, but even then it looked like it was clearly on its way out.

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>>90341260
cars land is GOAT but idk why they didnt call it radiator springs

>>90341325
Is Radiator Springs Racers the greatest ride Disney has made in the last decade?

>>90341522
idk what else it could be

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>>90335767
They changed it up

>>90341522
Well Midway Mania was and still is overrated shit and Everest broke almost immediately so I guess

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>>90341600
Also rare Drossel

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>>90323797
Avatar isn't, but the Disney parks are. We'd probably have a thread here if Disney grew big enough stones to, say, re-retheme the Stitch ride into an official Alien ride (they already have some degree of rights to the series, given the history of ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter and its continued presence in The Great Movie Ride).

>>90341650
I'm not sure who the Alien rights fall under, because Universal did an AvP maze for HHN a couple years ago.

>>90341600
Man, when did they change that up? That wasn't then when I went back in 2015.

>>90324732
That actually has potential, I like the idea of seasonal events to give me a reason to use my annual passes.

What is the best age to take a child to Disneyland? I recently became an uncle and my sister and I plan to take our niece to Disneyland when she's old enough to appreciate it (her mother/father aren't that big on it)

>>90325181
If you can get a good deal on tickets, go ahead an buy them.
Tickets don't expire until after first use, and there is no guarantee deals will come around again.
Spring is generally less busy than summer or Christmas time, but you have to watch out for the Cheer-leading competitions going on at that time, as they will ruin any ride you are on with them.
Don't use a travel agent, but if you want to be guaranteed to be in a popular restaurant (anything with characters, I hate those fucking things so I don't do it) you have to get reservations months in advanced. I would recommend a dinner at the California Grill, as it doesn't have Pluto trying to anally finger you, and offers the best views of Magic Kingdom fireworks. The Disney Hotels don't offer that huge of a benefit unless you stay at one of the monorail ones or EPCOT boardwalk ones, as you will still be driving or bussing to the parks.

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>>90341717
I'm not sure what it originally looked like, this was when I went in November. I remember they use to have a bunch of old Japanese wind up toys on display.

>>90341694
Maybe AvP has separate rights from Alien alone. Maybe it's a similar deal to Marvel where Universal has the rights on one side of the Mississippi River and Disney has them on the other.

>>90341781
Mid 20s, and they should go with a significant other or very close friend. This fosters the best possible experience.

>>90324631
Isn't Lost Continent at IOA dead now because if Harry Potter?

>>90324813
Daft Punk show somewhere in Hollywood Studios based off their 2014 Grammy performance. I don't know where though. Old Radio studio (don't remember the name)?

>>90323768

>that can't be real, it looks too fucking stupi-
>it's real

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>90341824
>The Disney Hotels don't offer that huge of a benefit unless you stay at one of the monorail ones or EPCOT boardwalk ones, as you will still be driving or bussing to the parks.

Well, hotel guests do get the privilege of extra park hours, which can be beneficial if you go for the extra morning hours and get there right at park opening, which can allow you to cut down on time waiting in lines at the most popular attractions and let you fit more stuff in, especially if you're on a limited schedule. But if that perk isn't worth it to you or if you won't be entering the park right at opening, then it's not as advantageous.

I also recommend checking out the hotel restaurants instead of just the park restaurants. Not just the restaurants of the hotel you stay it (if you stay at one), but all around the resort. They're generally less crowded and offer better quality food and service, and many are just as good with theming as places in the parks.

>>90341781
around like 7-8 id say
>>90341908
>tfw mid 20s but you go alone

>>90342323
Going alone can be fun as shit, too. I just think going with one other close person can be slightly better.

My family took me during the week of my 8th birthday and although I did have fun (hard not to), I didn't appreciate or enjoy the experience nearly as much as I did going back as an adult with control over the vacation.

>>90342097
I would crap my pants over this, holy shit. Think they could just have them portrayed by animatronic "robots".

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>>90342407
yeah going alone is fun no doubt but i still want a qt to go with
>>90342557
reminder that electronica was a thing

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>>90335767
>>90341600
>>90341633
>>90341849
>Already teaching kids how to be neets
Disney, what are you doing!?

>>90341902
Nah, it's both Fox.

>>90341650
>>90341694
In retrospect an Alien ride really doesn't make much sense for Disney.

It's kinda like them wanting to do a Nightmare on Elm St. ride

>>90341002
Universal contract just covers Spidey, X Men, Avengers and Fantastic 4. Which means Guardians, Strange and Big Hero 6 are good to go. Only condition is they can't call it Marvel's whatever in the marketing

>>90323768
>Hey kids! Wanna go to Avatar land?
>The fuck is that daddy?
>Some awesome movie I saw before you were born! YAYUH!

Did they really blow an assload of money on this shit?

>>90324813
The George Lucas version of Alien Encounter

http://mobile.dudasite.com/site/jimhillmedia?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjimhillmedia.com%2Feditor_in_chief1%2Fb%2Fjim_hill%2Farchive%2F2005%2F05%2F20%2F608.aspx&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wikipedia.org%2F#3042

>>90341246
all about screamin baby! cal adventure GOAT tier park

You know, I still find it hard to process that an animatronic Trump is going to be in the Hall of Presidents.

>>90342966
No, it covers every single character used in the park.
So if there is a picture of Dr. Strange in the corner of a gift shop, Disney can't use them.

>>90343013
They expected it to be a franchise they could milk before they acquired Marvel and Star Wars. Also they expected Cameron to actually put the films out on a regular basis.

>>90342791
Selling merchandise. "don't worry, kids, it's not weird to have wall to wall merch of your favorite character, no matter what your parents say! just look at this guy"

>>90343186
You and half a bunch of others. I've heard about that petition going on protesting the move (like it'll actually make a difference)

>>90343013
>Well, what's it about, Daddy?
>I forget. Something to do with blue cat people?

>>90343297
I think the petition was made so that the Trump animatronic doesn't give a speech like the Obama and George Washington ones.

But still, it's going to surreal to Trump in an attraction like this.

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>>90343226
Is James Cameron the Molyneux of film?

>>90343223
Except Strange has already done meet and greets at Hollywood Studios.

>>90343223
Strange has done meet & greets at Hollywood Studios, and Peter + Gamora have done meet & greets at Epcot I believe.

The parks also sell GotG and Dr. Strange merch, and have sold Avengers merchandise in the past.

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How did Disney manage to create fucking great exterior theming with PizzeRizzo but make the inside look like it's from the 90s and have the pizza still be shit?

It's barely even Muppets themed on the inside.

>>90344012
I think it's just theming for the sake of theming They wanted to make it Muppet themed but were probably just too lazy to completely gut the Pizza Planet theme

>>90344219
I guess.

The other weird thing is that sometimes, even on busy days, they're only open from 11AM - 4PM. I wanted to head inside last Friday to get a better look of Star Wars Land on the 2nd floor balcony, but they were closed by the time I got there at 5PM. Strange.

how do we fix future world?

>>90343297
It might make a difference if anyone actually gave a shit about that ride.

>>90345253
Focus on inspiring and engaging people's minds, not just throwing random IP into pavilions willy nilly in ways that serve no purpose beyond promoting the brands.

Reboot elements from Epcot's past. Return of Dreamfinder, spread elements of Horizons into other pavilions, like incorporating the space station stuff into an expanded Mission Space or making the Living Seas into a underwater research lab again. Hell, put James Cameron on that project.

Update Spaceship Earth again. Give it an ending that isn't just watching JibJab videos in the darkness and a script that isn't so painfully dumbed down.

>>90345253
Revamp it in a manner similar to what they wanted to do with Project Gemini.

>>90345253
- autism incoming -

move Leave a Legacy stuff from the entrance to somewhere else in the park

demolish the aging Universe of Energy and Wonders of Life pavilions. replace with new energy/life/environment themed rides (if they're still wanting to put guardians into the parks, an energy theme ~could~ work for that)

gut Innoventions West for something new. make Innoventions East just 'Innoventions' since they're struggling to find sponsors anyway.

re-do Journey into Imagination! with something that isn't kinda bad and super dated

find a proper use for the area that had Captain EO and has the current short films. at the very least update it.

renovate The Odyssey into a dedicated event center since Wonders of Life is gone in this scenario. doesn't need to be open 24/7.

add a proper full-service dining location. maybe replace Innoventions East with it, i dunno.

update Spaceship Earth with new scenes near the ending, focusing on the Internet probably. also get rid of that weird 'your future' thing and shove animatronics into the ending again.

update the Mission: Space videos so they don't look bad

replace the Soarin' video because holy fuck architecture doesn't hold up well to the curved screen.

just generally update the theming to make it a bit less 90s.

>>90325181
There's no real reason to use a travel agent, but some will book stuff for free and automatically update your trip to the cheapest prices if new deals pop up.

October can be busy, but it's never as bad as peak summer months. Magic Kingdom's Halloween party nights attracts a lot of people.

Basically, January - April (minus spring break weeks) and September - early December are the 'slow' times.

For cheaper rooms, rook into DVC rentals. You can rent out DVC rooms from members who aren't planning on using their points in a year for a fraction of the cost it would usually be for the same hotel room. I'm going in November, staying at the AK Lodge, 7 nights for $1100 before tickets and food for a room overlooking one of the animal savannahs.

For cheaper(ish) tickets, checkout Undercover Tourist, they are usually abour 10% or so cheaper than from Disney themselves.

Use a meal plan calculator to see if it's worth it for you. Most of the time you'll lose money, but it's significantly more convenient.

>>90345781
>Magic Kingdom's Halloween party nights attracts a lot of people.

if you're doing park hopper tickets, before 4PM on party nights is the best time to head to Magic Kingdom in October. guests that are going into the halloween party are allowed into the park at 4PM and it gets crowded at that point.

another solid time is the few weeks after Food & Wine ends. Epcot will be deserted once all the food is gone.

>>90325181
Disney World is for rich people now and isn't worth going to unless you're a 10 year old and even then you won't remember much of the trip years later after you.

Just go to Six Flags or Universal.

>>90345572
>look up project gemini
see this
"Robot Restaurant" (where guests can dine on burgers and fries while watching "Battle Bots"like shows live every half hour or so)
I would book atleast 1 meal there
>>90345756
the mission space videos are fine and they was literally a new soarin film less then a year ago

Disney is never going to have anything Kingdom Hearts related in their parks ever, are they?

>>90346215
They had a meet-and-greet with Sora for a while in one of the parks.

He was a mask character.

>>90325322
>billion dollars
>pocket change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyMagic%2B#Development
In February 2011, Disney approved a budget of $1 billion for implementing the NGE system at Walt Disney World Resort, targeting a roll-out by February 2012; however, this target was missed.[1] On January 7, 2013, Disney officially unveiled the new platform, known as MyMagic+.[3] The system would be rolled out over the course of the year; implementing MyMagic+ and its associated functionality required the installation of new equipment across the entire resort—a process complicated by its large size, and the need to minimize disruption to the resort's operation throughout the transition. Alongside upgrades to entry points, Wi-Fi had to be installed across the resort in order to allow use of the associated mobile apps by cast members and guests, and locks on over 28,000 hotel room doors had to be upgraded to support the new RFID system.[1][2]

>>90323903
I stayed at the Animal Kingdom hotel over ten years ago. It was great. We woke up to girraffes out our window every morning and we got the VIP package so we just had to put oru room key into the elevator slot and we got access to the top floor where an all you can eat buffet was for 12 hours every day. Disney Cartoons played constantly and there was always fried meat on sticks available.

>>90346215
They've had a shirt and a pin as merch there, too. But that's it, as far as I know.