What's the best ATLA episode?

>>90318317
Why do you ask if you post the answer?

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>>90318376
>doesn't know how /co/ works

>>90318317
Best ATLA episode is a Zuko episode. Any of them.

>>90318408
I was actually questioning this aspect of /co/, but whatever.

>>90318317
Because Zuko having to choose which side he's on are the best moments of the series followed closely by his duel with Azula.

>>90318317
>can you help me?
Dude kill him lmao!
>can you help me?
Dude my wife lolz
>can you help me?
Uhhh, nah here's a story about what happened to me. So I'll let you decide.
>can you help me?
Nah senpai sorry.

>>90318465
OP here, for me it was more the music throughout the whole ep, actually.
*still gets chills from it*

>>90318435
>>90318465
Without Zuko the show wouldn't have been anywhere near as good as it was. In fact it probably would have been leagues better with more focus on him and his family.

>>90318561
I will agree with you the show needs more zuko

>>90318561
Absolutely not. While the parts with Zuko were indeed better on average, dragging out his indecision even a little bit more could literally have destroyed the quality of the show. I'd argue it dragged on too long as it is, actually.

>>90318626
Azula pls

>>90318458
You never question /co/, anon.
Or any 4chan board actually.
Don't you know that already?

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The Southern Raiders is the best episode. Which is surprising since there is a distinct lack of Toph.

>>90318680
I heard that ep was heavily rewritten by Bryke to strip out Zutara.

>>90318753
>The only thing he did right
Good.

>>90318753
Good. I don't ship Zutara at all.

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Because that ending.

>>90318801
>he
>not knowing Bryke is two people
kek

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>>90318317
Wasn't this episode also wrote by one of Bryke?

Will /co/ go back and admit that they can do some great stuff sometimes?

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>Let go your earthly tether
>Enter the void
>Empty, and become wind

>>90318626
Nah son, there was a lot more that could have been done.
Fleshing out Iroh more, Azula could have been more well rounded, not to mention Ursa. There was a comic tie-in to the movie that basically retold Zuko's origin from 'The Storm' with lots of added bits in that was actually pretty great. Just a few little things could've really bolstered Zuko's side of the story.

>>90318680
>pic
>>90318902
>waifus head gets blown open. Kek that was great.

>>90318882
No, it was written by Aaron Ehasz.
It was, however, the ONLY ep directed by Bryke, which is why some people claim they told him to change the script to have Zuko betray his uncle.

>>90319015
Good decision in my opinion.

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>>90318317
>What's the best ATLA episode?
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>>90319572
>Tfw when they fucked up the entirety of this ark in the hack movie.

>>90319127
As usual, they say it was to stop Zutara though.

>>90319572
>tfw your girlfriend turned into the moon

>>90319831
Two times better them.

>>90319572
That's two episodes you cheater.

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>>90319968

>>90318507
dude, that's the lion turtle episode. this is a still from the book 2 finale.

>>90320064
I finally got the post
Thanks random anon

>>90319015
>they told him to change the script to have Zuko betray his uncle.
Is that true?

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>tfw watching ATLA in 1080p

feels good

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>>90319988
Nah. Zutara is pure.

>>90320084
it happens. to be fair, that Ozai finale WAS a horrible asspull. I wouldn't mind that it was the solution, I just wished it had literally any foreshadowing to excuse it, like Avatars saying there was a lost power even the Avatar never mastered or something.

>>90318561

But >>90318626 is also right. Avatar had the perfect amount of Zuko. He went from an intimidating but sympathetic villain pushing the plot forward to a worthwhile and nuanced character in his own right to a flat out protagonist by Season 3 (before he joined the Gaang officially.

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>>90320102

>>90320151
Energybending was NOT an asspull.
Not everything has to be foreshadowed - as long as it fits with what has been established before, it's fine.

What IS actually an asspull is that fucking rock.

>>90318317
For me and my friends who watched it religiously together, it was the shock from all that development for Zuko over the course of the season. All that breaking down, all that inner turmoil, and he thought he was finally at peace. But then when the chips were down he saw his one, singular, possibly FINAL opportunity ever to regain his "honor", he fucked up so hard he practically broke the space time continuum. We were practically howling with rage and excitement.

>>90320244
shit, I almost forgot that bullshit rock.
I'm not saying energybending HAD to be foreshadowed, but it would have helped for me at least. the combination of the two I think is what made it feel meh.

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>>90320086
That's the question, isn't it?

>>90320456
Well, is there any evidence, or is it pure conjecture? If so, then it seems silly to make that assumption.

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>>90320712

>>90320712
There's a lot of info on Tumblr that's supposedly from Aaron Ehasz himself, claiming that Bryke hated Zutara so much they forced him (and others) to rewrite key parts of the show. It's also claimed that this is why Book 3 is generally felt to be worse than Book 2.

Now, Tumblr posters obviously aren't the most reputable around in general, but the number of people claiming to have verified this independently definitely makes one think.

>>90320859
Should've just made Aaron Ehasz showrunner. Bryke are hacks.

>>90320282

This sums it up perfectly.

>>90320859
>Zutara so much they forced him (and others) to rewrite key parts of the show.


But Zutara was ever meant to have any chance to begin with, no matter of he tried to pull a Zuke off.

>>90321029
Never*

Also, zutarans are fags.

>>90320957
Oh yeah, they also say the show was supposed to keep going after Book 3 (with Book 4: Air and perhaps even further to Book 5: Spirits) but the movie deal changed things.

>>90321022
I think it helps that as far as I remember, none of us were even remotely involved in online fandom stuff, just a few good friends who liked cartoons, especially this one. No shipping drama, just analysis and speculation.

And now look at me.

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>>90318902
Just rewatched that scene, Aang was actually flying instead of floating in an air-bubble like he did with his fight with Ozai.

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>>90321077
Zutara. Is. Pure.

to be honest, I don't give a fuck since the romance in ATLA was so shit anyway. Kataang was HORRIBLY written in season 3

>>90321181
Didn't he float while in the Avatar state before? I seem to remember Katara hugging him out of one or two and not being blown away by a wall of air.

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>>90321181
You're not the first one to notice that, anon. Pic very much related.

>>90319716
They tried to do Boiling Rock in the movie?

But that's a season 3 plotline.

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>>90321181
that's what I was implying, is that Aang did the same thing Zaheer did, if only for a brief moment

>>90321251
nope, he was in an air ball then

>>90321242
A ship that sunk before it got out to sea.

>>90321337
Well! That's cool. I doubt it was intended all along, though. Don't think Pathik never said anything about becoming wind.

>>90321251
You're thinking of the time with the Sandbenders, he was in an air-bubble.

>>90321242
>all those ""best"" moments

>no Agni Kai scene where Zuko takes the lightning for Katara

DROPPED

>>90321394
Yeah I doubt that that was fleshed out that far back(though apparently the bare basics for "Beginnings" have existed since ATLA) but it's cool in retrospect that it fits with what Zaheer and Laghima did.

Zutara might be shit but Zaang is way worse

>>90321359
Could've been great if they brought Zuko into the Gaang earlier in season 3, and had an additional season. So basically let Aaron have it his way.

>>90321846
No it wouldn't.

You are just projecting your headcanons of your cancerous ship.

>>90322291
Not really. In canon they had great chemistry in Southern Raiders and the finale. It could've worked if they wanted it too. The same goes for practically any ship.

>>90322346
Katara having sex with Sokka would be vetted because they had a better chemistry to be honest.

It would even make sense and add some nice layers to their characters. I'm sure a writter could have made it work. Zutara? Not likely.

>>90319968
That's rough, buddy.

>>90322405
Quality shitpost anon.

>>90318626
I'd say that we had just the right amount of Zuko wavering but it left us with too little of Zuko as a member of the Gaang.

Zuko Alone, The Beach, The Avatar and the Firelord, or The Firebending Masters. Zuko is the best character, besides Sokka, and all four of those include some of the absolute best character advancement and storytelling in the series.

>>90320151
>>90320244
>>90320341
The concept of energy-bending itself wasn't why it was such a problem - the problem was that it completely undermined Aang's entire emotional conflict for the last half-a-dozen episodes.

Aang's entire arc in the finale is the question of whether or not Aang is able to or willing to compromise his own ideals for the sake of serving the greater good - taking a life, no matter how horrible a thing that might be to do, for the sake of preserving the lives of others or stand by his people's beliefs and allow the Fire Lord to live. It's a fantastic dilemma and the finale does a great job of setting up how conflicted Aang (and even Aang's past-selves) are about the decision.

I'm not saying the finale had to end with Aang ripping Ozai's still-beating heart out of his chest, but surely there had to be a better compromise that would allow Aang to defeat Ozai without killing him - like Aang sparing Ozai after clearly defeating him and then Ozai causing his own death when he tries to attack him or something.

Instead of having to make a decision one way or the other and stand by the consequences of his decision, Aang is given an out that allows him to save the day without having to face any tough moral dilemmas. That is a textbook Deus Ex Machina.

>>90318902
>>90321181

I really wish they would have foreshadowed "Enter the Void" in ATLA, making it a much bigger deal when Zaheer achieves it.

Tales of Ba Sing Se is objectively the best episode. Yes it's the most common choice, for a reason.

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>>90318902
Azula zapping him with lightning (as well as most of the shit Azula pulled off) was pretty bullshit in hindsight.

Pretty much every time in the series when Aang enters the Avatar State, he either enters it instantly, or there's some kind of hurricane that prevents you from doing shit. The Book 2 finale is the only time he just kinda floats there.

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>>90320026

>>90323068
Yes, but this was the first time he was in control of the avatar state. The other times he entered it he was in a fit of rage.

>>90323068
Crossroads of Destiny actually had quite a bit of shit writing. It's still the best episode of the series, though, which is rather unflattering for many other episodes.

>>90323107
>Crossroads of Destiny actually had quite a bit of shit writing.
Would you care to elaborate?

>>90322984
You really doesn't know what Deus ex machina is.

>>90323225
"an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel."

>>90323068
i thought it was kinda genius. Anyone else would have just stood there in awe and fear in the avatar's magnificence. Only Azula had the audacity to try and turn this moment to her advantage

>>90323155
Besides what anon already noted:
Why were Katara and Zuko dropped into the catacombs, while Sokka and Toph were placed into an actual prison?
Why did the oh-so-careful Azula not check for any water on Katara's person before doing so?
Why did Aang only use earthbending - HIS WEAKEST ELEMENT at that point - in the climax fight?
That's just off the top of my head.

>>90323225
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina

>The term has evolved to mean a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deus%20ex%20machina

>a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/deus_ex_machina

>an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.

>>90323303
>Why were Katara and Zuko dropped into the catacombs, while Sokka and Toph were placed into an actual prison?
That's a good point. I guess because Zuko/Katara were caught at approximately the same time, they're both considered high priority prisoners, and it was in the midst of a coup where communication was low. I can buy it enough.

>Why did the oh-so-careful Azula not check for any water on Katara's person before doing so?
Okay, that's a bit bullshit. Best explanation I can come up with is Azula didn't personally oversee their imprisonment and the Dai Li agent that did was either incompetent, or didn't think it was important.

>Why did Aang only use earthbending - HIS WEAKEST ELEMENT at that point - in the climax fight?
Because it looked cool. But yeah, this was always a grievance of mine too. I can overlook it.

>>90320180
>>90322854
see: >>90318923
I didn't mean JUST Zuko.

>>90323225
>A plot device which provides a sudden, unexpected, and contrived solution to a problem facing one or more characters.
I'd say he's right on the money.

Energy bending came out of nowhere (no, one stray painting of a lion-turtle 20 episodes before doesn't count, energy bending did not come up until ~40 minutes before the end of the show) and for no other reason than to give the main character an easy way out of a difficult moral dilemma.

Self propelled flight is 100% pure nonsensical Bryke bullshit.

Dozens of Air Nomads have achieved enlightenment and let go their earthly tethers and ties. NONE ever flew except Laghima and for some reason no one in the generations surrounding Laghima tried to replicate him.

>>90324150
maybe they took issue with his more radical teachings (I don't remember what else he supposedly said) and said nah fuck that guy
and if I wanna get pedantic pretty sure most of them were just nomads, not reclusive hermits

>>90324269
He has no radical teachings.

Zaheer is just shaping some of the guys quotes to be in favor of destroying the system. Laghima was not some heretic or outcast from the Air Nomads.

And hermit doesn't matter, they achieved enlightenment. Laghima wasn't some reclusive hermit either since they got his quotes down, there's a Mountain Peak named after him and there's jewelry with his stuff on it and statues of him

>>90324357
There's shit named after Firelords too... doesn't mean they weren't dicks.

>>90324385
Firelords were the leaders of their nations. Laghima wasn't one. And most of the things named after the Fire Lords we know were because they specifically looked up to them.

>>90324385
Those dick firelords also had thousands of zealous followers so you're kinda proving his point there.

>>90320102
Where?

>>90322984
>>90324131
You know, I think the reason the energybending resolution to the moral conflict doesn't bother me too much is this: the moral conflict should never have come up in the first place! Or if it did, it should have come up way before THE FINALE OF THE SERIES.

Using a plot device to resolve a problem that was only just introduced feels way less... problematic than if it's something a character has been struggling with for a long time.

>>90324512
The internet.

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>realize I haven't seen this series in about 7 years

I'd say maybe any episode from Book 2 is a contender. There was not a single dull/pointless filler episode in that entire season and it was great for it.

>>90324525
Fair enough, that's on the fault of the writers for waiting until basically the last minute of Southern Raiders to bring the conflict up.

They should have at least alluded to it during the lead-up to the invasion.

>>90324525
Well he was struggling with it for awhile actually, shit just hit the fan when the comet came and aang was like welp this is happeneing. I honestly feel for the little guy I myself wouldn't know what I would do in the heat of the moment.

>>90319716
That was Imprisoned.

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>>90324558
Pls

>>90324578
I found "The Serpent's Pass" and "The Drill" to be quite dull, and some of the early episodes were rather slow (but still more interesting IMO).

There were also numerous writing issues throughout the whole season (and show) such as those I pointed out in Crossroads of Destiny, but they don't really affect the relative rankings.

>>90324578
Give it a rewatch sometime. It's one of those rare series that's genuinely good enough to rewatch again after a few years - like BTAS, Justice League, Cowboy Bebop, Deep Space Nine, Stargate SG-1, or the first two and a half seasons of Battlestar Galactica.

>>90318680
Why is she so perfect?

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>>90324578
If you do rewatch you should get the fanmade 1080p remaster

https://www.reddit.com/r/RemasteringATLA/comments/5hr9w2/atla_remastered_in_1080p/

>>90320859
I liked Book 3 more than Book 2.

>>90324150
>Dozens of Air Nomads have achieved enlightenment
Have they? Iroh and Yangchen both agreed that letting go of earthly attachments was a pretty bad idea. Pathik was giving Aang a shortcut so he could end the war faster, Aang would eventually learn to master the Avatar state like his predecessors.

>>90324876
For me, Book 3 was definitely was a step down from book 2 in terms of pacing, characterisation and overall writing quality. The romance was also incredibly hamfisted. IMO Day of Black Sun needed to happen way earlier, like episodes 5/6. Then hopefully there would be more zuko bonding time, more toph development, more exploration of Azula's descent into madness, maybe some more Iroh backstory and a proper build up to the finale. In saying that, there was some great episodes such as Avatar and the Firelord, Firebending Masters, and Southern Raiders. In fact, I liked every episode (yes, even The Headband), but as an overall package, it left something to be desired, especially since it was the final season.

>>90318408
I'm late, but this thread format is garbage
That's not the best way to spur discussion

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>>90325280
Oh yeah?
How about you tell us YOUR "best way to spur discussion", anon.

>>90324578
Think I last watched 5 years ago. Gonna give it a longer wait then go back to it some day.

>>90325263
Again, though:
>Oh yeah, they also say the show was supposed to keep going after Book 3 (with Book 4: Air and perhaps even further to Book 5: Spirits) but the movie deal changed things.
And AFAIK, this was only known well into season 3.

>>90325516
Fuck Bryke. We could've had more ATLA but instead we got the movie and LoK.

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Asking a general question- why did the Dai Lee join betray the Earth Kingdom?

Haven't watched the show in a bit but I remember that Azula outmaneuvers their leader so I guess they respect her and wanna be on her side because of that, but I still can't exactly believe that they would be ruthless enough to not give a shit about their nation at all.

I'd imagine being at war for 100 years would make them pretty patriotic and not willing to turncloak the first chance they ever get but that's what they did, and they went back to the Fire Nation with Azula right?

The way the Dai Lee so easily betrayed the Earth Kingdom always seemed off to me. Are they just huge assholes and that's it?

>>90325592
I'm not sure how much Bryke had to do with the movie deal, though.

>>90325604
They were never loyal to the Earth Kingdom, they were loyal to Ba Sing Se and later Azula.

>>90325695
It's weird how they just totally didn't give a shit at all though. I can understand being pragmatic and loyal to their leader but you'd figure they would have some reservations against betraying their nation.

Also their thing did fuck up Ba Sing Se too so good job on that guys (if that was one of their loyalties).

>>90325604
>>90325695
>>90325749
I was going to mention this as a CoD writing failure, but then I remembered my reasoning from before:
The Dai Li aren't stupid. They know that the Fire Nation is nearing victory in the war (as Katara said in the very first episode). They may even know that the comet is returning. They certainly saw the drill.

They knew it was extremely unlikely the Fire Nation would lose (at least without counting the power of the Avatar, and Aang has been underestimated repeatedly), so they decided to join the seemingly winning team before it was too late.

>>90325652
Well, whoever was responsible can get fucked.

That episode where Aang finally reunites with Appa after he was kidnapped is in my top three favorite episodes.

>I missed ya, buddy

I started to cry really hard when that happened, the whole gang coming in to give appa a hug was too much for me.

>>90322989
If enter the void had been mentioned in ATLA when zaheer did it it would have been considered pandering and just referencing shit that happened in ATLA.

>>90325940
Because that's exactly what it would've been. There's no way they planned the flying shit in ATLA.

>>90325884
The episode recapping Appa's solo journey is so sad to me. Nothing but bad shit keeps happening to him and he's like the friendliest animal ever. Nothing will EVER be sadder than The Tale of Iron though. Jesus Christ.

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Heil Azula, gas the Airbenders

>>90320244
>The rock
What rock?
>Azula knocked Aang's "avatar"-ness out of alignment instead of him killing the avatar line
>Let's fix it by having this teeny protruding stone hit him exactly where it needs to be during the fight
Oh... that rock... Fuck that deus ex rockina.

>>90323277
But it's not about the awe and fear. It's about literally not being able to do anything because of all the natural disasters that happen whenever Aang charges up his Avatar state.

The ONE TIME he doesn't do any of that is when he conveniently decides to float in one place for Azula to shoot lightning at him.

Of course Azula has a ton of plot armor, so it's just par for the course of the series.

>>90325811
It still sort of is a writing failure. If the writing was on the wall, then it'd make sense for them turncoat. However, the Gaang had been BTFO the Fire Nation at every turn, giant drill failed, massive North Pole fleet wiped out, etc. You'd think that would give them the sense of a fighting chance. There's also the Earth King letting random "Kyoshi Warriors" see him and the Gaang narrowly missing them somehow.

It's even worse when you consider the cringy I'm so scary speech Azula made that only sounds intimidating to 13 year olds.

>>90321242
This. Like that moment in the play ep. The Headband had good moments though. Still, the end game was utter bull.

>>90326216
>It's about literally not being able to do anything because of all the natural disasters that happen whenever Aang charges up his Avatar state.

Why are you ignoring my explanation?
>>90323103

>>90325749
There actually was one member who ended up not wanting anything to do with them, he got captured and then spilled the beans to Team Avatar.

>>90318923

Azula is as well rounded as they get.

>>90325263

Azula didn't go mad, she just had a breakdown.

>>90326157

Heil Azula

>>90326216
>Of course Azula has a ton of plot armor,

No she doesn't she has skill.

>>90322405
Sad part it's true. She hated him so hard after the season 2 ending. Haaaate. In fact, that same episode might have been the only time she liked him pre-"Help me find the guy who killed my mom and maybe I'll forgive you". And that lasted all of 10 minutes! But hey'
>Tru luv 5ever <3
Shipfags. whatcha gonna do?

>>90322984
Or a more realistic, but edgy alternative. Aang dismembers his hands and feet, covers his mouth before he can breathe fire. Leaves him unable to bend fire (so he thinks) and gets to let him live.

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>>90326306
Post more zutara, that's what.

Your lack of imagination makes me sad.

>>90326291
Fuck off Scrapper

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>Aang finds lion-turtle painting with a vague text mentioning energy bending
Would that have soften the blow?

>>90326370
I have imagination; I just use it for fan work. Fan work has no place in canon though. So, yeah. Imagination has a power of 0 against "word of god".

>>90326425
Yes. That's really all we needed. Just SOME sort of hint. Fuck Bryke for claiming it's foreshadowed, it fucking is not.

>>90326425
Soooo fucking much. Just the name drop a few episodes in advance. Anything, really.

>>90326461
My point is it could've worked in canon. The writing possibilities were there, and just because they weren't seized in canon, doesn't make the ship a bad idea.

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>>90326258
>>90323103
But when he entered it in control the other times, he went into instantly and didn't just float around.

>>90326291
This poster is Scrapper. Ignore him.

He will say "I'm not Scrapper", but he is Scrapper.

He will talk in the third person and act like he's Scrapper's friend, or even multiple friends of Scrapper.

Scrapper does not have friends. He has multiple personalities.

He will deny being on /co/ because he was permabanned and doesn't want to be IP banned by revealing his identity. He'll then go on his tumblr and post something like "god I'm so smart those idiots think I'm not on /co/ but I actually control it."

Ignore him.

>>90326425
There was a lion-turtle painting. It was just in some background shot while they were in the library. That's what Byrke calls foreshadowing.

>>90326425
Of course. Just like (Aang?) mentioned "I wish I could metalbend" prior to Toph inventing it

>>90326537
>There was a lion-turtle painting. It was just in some background shot while they were in the library.
That's what I meant, same scene but now the painting has cryptic text or simply a title referencing energy bending.

Nothing beyond that.

>>90326537

I'm not Scrapper I'm just saying you guys are too judgmental.

>>90326537
>But when he entered it in control the other times, he went into instantly and didn't just float around.
There's only one other time he went into the avatar state in control and that was the finale. This was the first time he fully unlocked the avatar state, so it makes sense to me.

>>90319015
>>90319831
>why some people claim they told him to change the script to have Zuko betray his uncle.
That's the stupidest thing I've heard.

Zuko betrayed Iroh so he could see firsthand that his father's respect wasn't what he really wanted and so he could make the decision by himself rather than just do whatever Iroh said. If he had joined Aang during Crossroads of Destiny it would have just made it look like he was switching over to the winning team, especially since he was already in the worst situation he could be regarding his status in the Fire Nation.

Not everything in the world revolves around shipfaggotry.

>>90324150
>Dozens of Air Nomads have achieved enlightenment and let go their earthly tethers and ties
Is this another case of "Muh headcanons >>>> whatever LoK says"

>>90327126
Is this another case of deluded Korrafags defending LoK from any and all criticism?

>>90325811
I would be ok with it if the writing had shown that they were simply joining the winning team rather than saying it was due to Azula being too inspiring and having the "right to rule"

Especially since they would have had more to gain keeping both of Ozai's heirs hostage rather than hoping that they would be allowed to join the Fire Nation.

>>90327188
Is this another case of deluded Korra haters hating on LoK whenever and wherever they can?

>>90327211
Is this another case of Korrafags implying that detractors don't have valid reasons to hate the show?

>>90327257
Is this another case of Korra haters implying that all of their reasons are valid and/or objective and/or criticisms MUST be brought up whenever LoK is mentioned?

>>90327277
Is this another case of Korrafags feeling the need to defend the show whenever they can because they can't tolerate opposing opinions?

>>90327318
Is this another case of Korra haters feeling the need to hate on the show whenever they can because they can't tolerate opposing opinions?

>>90327333
Is this another case of Korrafags thinking Korra haters care if people like it or not?

>>90327445
Is this another case of Korra haters trying to deny that they always hate on the show whenever it is brought up?

>>90327465
Is this another case of Korrafags completely missing the point?

>>90327509
Is this another case of Korra haters completely missing the point?

>>90327445
>>90327465

Holy shit get laid you fucking losers

>>90327188
Where was it ever said in ATLA that there were plenty of known air nomads that achieved true enlightment?

The only ones we see in ATLA are shown to be fun loving people that love all of their peers so they could never truly detach themselves from the earthly world.

Anyhow this is a fucking cartoon battle shonen, it's the same as complaining about no one figuring out bloodbending or metalbending before the relevant enough characters to do it did.

>>90327540
Is this another case of Korrafags needing to be explained the difference between hating on a show and hating on the people who like said show?

>>90327568
Is this another case of Korra haters needing to be explained the difference between disliking a show and hating on the show and people who like said show?

>>90327592
Is this another case of Korrafags being so emotionally invested in the show, that they cannot distinguish between criticisms of the show and personal attacks?

>>90327674
Is this another case of Korra haters feeling so strongly negative about a show that they cannot distinguish between voicing dislike and making it their life's mission to hate on the show whenever it is brought up?

Since when is copy and pasting, and not answering questions an argument?
Are you guys in cahoots and trying to get famous?

>>90327712
Is this another case of Korrafags feeling so strongly positive about a show that they make it their life's mission to defend the show whenever it is attacked >>90327126?

>>90327765
Is this another case of Korra haters feeling so strongly negative about a show that they make it their life's mission to hate on the show whenever it is brought up?

>>90327893
Alright, this was fun, but I've gotta go. Thanks for the bants Korrafag.

>>90319716
Hahaha. What are you talking about anon? There is no movie.

We do not talk about that movie

>ctrl+f Laogai
>0 results
You're all plebs

>>90328938

One of the best for sure. In fact, the last four episodes of season 2 easily beat the finale.

>>90320017
to be fair nothing fucking happens in the first part

>>90322984
Ozai killing himself by accident would have been the stupidest, dumbest shit. All Aang's character development is gone, and while it wasn't phenomenal to begin with, there was at least something. The way it ended with energy bending was fine, but the only problem was that they had the voice of the lion turtle explain what was happening in the exact moment Aang needed a solution, rather than when Aang was actually talking to the lion turtle. It wouldn't have been a giveaway for the turtle to mention "bending the energy in each others bodies," as watchers wouldn't grasp the scope of what that means. But the Avatar, especially after talking to his previous lives, would.

Day of Black Sun pt. 2, Exclusively for the scene where Zuko confronts Ozai. His speech is amazing, the lightning redirection is hype, and it's just so satisfying.

>>90326470
In the sword master episode there is a brief scene of a lion-turtle statue.

>>90329399

11/10 scene.

cave of two lovers

>>90329399
>Think again. I am going to speak my mind and you are going to listen.

Fucking gold.

>>90320102
The Headband was a fun, self-contained episode. Not the best, but compulsively rewatchable.

>>90330292
I agree it was fun on its own, but after the intensity of Crossroads and Awakening, the tone didn't feel right.

>>90329399
Still salty that Zuko/Azula doesn't end with Lightning finally backfiring after being set up for 2 seasons.

>>90330344
It's a little strange that Azula can cast lightning at all given her mental state.

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"The Drill" was the best episode.

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True best episode even though pic related isn't the focus

>>90322984
>like Aang sparing Ozai after clearly defeating him and then Ozai causing his own death when he tries to attack him or something.
Disney deaths are awful copouts though.

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>>90331822
I thought it was just okay overall, but that one scene where Sokka and Toph are talking about Katara was perfect.

The Blue Spirit for sure

>>90325604
Self-preservation, probably.

They've all seen and done so much shady shit that they probably figured that even if they'd never sided with Azula and helped drive her off, they wouldn't keep their positions long once the "new" government up again.

Paramilitary organizations who have historically had a great deal of influence on government (See: Janissary Corps, the Shogunate, etc) tend to be the first thing to be purged once a "new" (or in this case, suddenly self-aware) monarch decides its time to consolidate power for himself.

>>90331878
>>90331822
I don't think The Runaway is anything like the objectively best episoe but Hell, if it doesn't absolutely nail the dynamic between the Team Avatar characters.
A lot of S3 episodes are incredible individual episodes, even if the overall story isn't as strong as S2

>>90318317
Because Zuko staying loyal to the Fire Nation instead of joining the Avatar like most were expecting was a neat twist that makes perfect sense.

Plus, him and Azula kicking ass was fun. Makes me wish they had done it more often before Zuko's inevitable betryal.

>>90318317
>Bryke knew Aang and Katara would be OTP since Day One
>give her some screentime with Zuko and build up a potential heel-face turn relationship and stir up shipperfags
>nah to hell with that let him dry off Katara's wetness for him by betraying her and Uncle Iroh
>best episode
Nah. Far from it.

>>90332740
>A lot of S3 episodes are incredible individual episodes, even if the overall story isn't as strong as S2
Fucking this.

>Sokka's Master
>The Beach
>Avatar and the Firelord
>The Runaway
>The Puppetmaster
>The Western Air Temple
>The Firebending Masters
>Boiling Rock pt. 2
>The Southern Raiders

>>90333305
>Bryke knew Aang and Katara would be OTP since Day One
Some of Tumblr says no

>>90333204
>neat twist
Debatable.

From season one to season two finale Zuko have been "Muh restoration and honor!" So it weren't too surprising of a twist.

I think one of Zuko's finest moment is the Blue Spirit episode where he had Aang and could've turned him in yet didn't and with Aang's finale words: "Do you think if we were born in a different time, we could've been friends?" Sealed it.

I think Zuko pitted with Aang made for good moments because Aang challenged Zuko on par with Iroh. The season two finale and Zuke with Katara didn't gel all too well aside from Byrke adding fuel to shipping wars.

>>90318753
As much shit as Bryke get, I give them props for sticking to their guns and not allowing Ehasz to taint their show with his faggy, tumblr-tier fanfic ship. Extra points for straight up mocking Zutarafags.

>>90333509
As if the show wasn't tainted already by their shoddily written Kataang ship.

>>90331879
This.

It's high up there as my personal favourite episode. It's great.

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>>90333529
Better than a non-existent fanfic ship

>>90326875
>Not everything in the world revolves around shipfaggotry
In the DVD commentary of the season two finale, Bryke mentioned they weren't aware of Shippers nor had any idea of Shippingwars until a few years later when fans mentioned it to them. Yet, the intention of Zutara was there to toil with fans expectations, even though they knew Aang and Katara would end up as OTP.

>>90333643
Not really. I would've preferred nothing at all.

>>90333733
Actually, it was apparently there because most of the non-Bryke writers supposedly supported it.

>>90324825
>loli
>cynical
>tomboy
>strong

What's not to like?

>>90320712
>Well, is there any evidence, or is it pure conjecture?
If you want a legitmate source other than Tumblr. Check the DVD commentaries of Avatar.

One reason Zutara didn't happen because of the age gap Zuko being fourteen and Katara being twelve. Yet, Aang and Katara were always planned.
Iroh weren't supposed to be the big good, he had a much larger role in Zuko's life and he would've betrayed someone close to him, however, since fans were receptive to Iroh and his personality decided to not make him evil.

>>90333835
Of course, anon. As it always happen when you have different fractions of shipperfags vying for their OTP to win. However, it still stand, regardless.

>>90334108
There is so much supposedly wrong in this post that I don't even know where to begin.

>>90334108
Zuko is 16, Katara is 14 and Aang is 12.

>>90334265
Seeing their ages like this is a reminder of the hypocrisy.

I always liked The Chase, the tention and the climax of that ep were great.
Zuko Alone I think is the single best episode though

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>>90324512
not sure if you're still here dude, but if you are, here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RemasteringATLA/comments/5hr9w2/atla_remastered_in_1080p/

>>90340574
He's not. I killed him.

But thanks my dude

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>>90340716
You're welcome! If you want a little more information about the encode, this post has some

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/5hv4en/no_spoilers_atla_remastered_in_1080p_completed/

>>90330344
>>90330360
it gets worse in the comics. much worse

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>>90334874
There is no hypocrisy, just you crying over a crack ship.


Posting superior crack ship.

>>90334108
>Iroh
>actually a bad guy
This can't possibly have ever been the plan. It's horrible to even imagine such an outcome.

>>90341449
I would've preferred it. Iroh is a reddit character.

>>90342354
Weak bait, fag.

>>90342354
>a reddit character.
What does that even mean?

>>90343371
reddit is a meaningless adjective used by people who can't be bothered to actually think for themselves

>>90343371

Something good and popular.

>>90342368
All he does is meme le wisdom to the main characters.

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10/10 Avatar episodes

The Storm
The Blue Spirit
Siege of the North 1 & 2
Zuko Alone
Lake Laogai
The Crossroads of Destiny
The Avatar and the Firelord
The Day of Black Sun (part 2)
The Boiling Rock (part 2)
Sozin's Comet (part 3 & 4)
Beginnings
Venom of the Red Lotus

>>90343740
>Beginnings
someone hasn't watched E;R

>>90343740
this is good taste right here. Only one I would add is the firebending masters.

>>90344332
No way, that episode had some terribly juvenile writing. The only awesome part was the actual dragon sequence, and that was like 5% of the ep.

>>90344382
what do you mean by juvenile?

>>90344421
Writing like that of a stereotypical kids' show.

>>90344523
I guess I should have asked for specific examples

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>>90330631
It's a giant penis entering the wall and then ejaculating.
Goddamnit

>>90344591
Listen to the dialogue between Aang and Zuko, especially when they're alone together (before they find the Sun Warriors). Also:
>Hey, jerks. Mind if I watch you two jerks do your jerk bending?

>>90344717
>>Hey, jerks. Mind if I watch you two jerks do your jerk bending?
That's just Sokka being Sokka.
What's the issue?

>>90344717
I'll check it out and consider your thoughts. For now, maybe we can call it an 8/10?

>>90344792
Call it whatever you want, it's not a top tier episode though.

But that just like, my opinion man. Your view is equally valid and I respect you as a person/

>>90343740
You forgot Tales of Ba Sing Se, but that's a good ass list.

Blue Spirit and Zuko Alone will never stop being my favorite episodes. Top tier action scenes.

>>90344780
It's quite possibly the worst joke in the series, and it wasn't even necessary as there was no context whatsoever. It was pointless and stupid.

>>90344332
>>90345120

Those would be on the 9/10 list.

>>90345149
would tales of ba sing se be 10/10 if Iroh's story was last? It's always bugged me that the best tale is first.

>>90345126
>no context
eh, Sokka doesn't like fire bending but he knows Aang has to learn it. I think it was pretty standard Sokka humor.

The Underground Library one was fucking bomb

>>90345398
Iroh's tale is second, and Momo's tale had to be last for plot reasons.
>>90345436
When did Sokka even hint at not liking firebending? Also, I can't think of any other jokes he made that were that bad. Even his "goofy" jokes weren't nearly as cringe-y.
>>90345508
That's a VERY underrated episode. Good choice, anon.

>>90345536
uh, his mom was killed by firebenders, they've been waging war against the world for a hundred years? Sokka doesn't like firebenders, firebending, and he especially doesn't like or trust Zuko. Remember the only other time Aang had tried to firebend previously? he burned Katara, Sokka was not happy.

>>90345508

Amazing episode. Love it when Toph says THERE IT IS!

>>90344315
>Someone hasn't watched an hour long series of videos that could have been summed up in 5 minutes

>>90318317
Is that the one where he farts?

>>90345765
If that's what the writer wanted to convey, they could have done it much better. Instead, they just made me cringe.

>>90345964
everyone else seems not to care about it

>>90346033
"everyone else seems not to care about" lots of things anon, doesn't make them right

>>90346056
but you caring by yourself makes you right?

>>90344717
But that's one of the best lines in the series, you jerkbender.

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>>90346214
absolutely

>>90345536
Season 1. Literally says "Oh, that's why I hated you at first. You were a firebender!"

Lot of things changed or got subtler/ignored.

>>90345765
You've shown that Sokka had several reasons he could have disliked firebending, but he never once that I can remember actually gave the impression that he held any particular animosity toward the practice of firebending. The only example that you gave which might argue your point is Sokka getting upset when Aang burned Katara, but even then he just seemed upset that Aang acted carelessly and Katara got hurt, not specifically that he had used firebending. Context is important.

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>>90341125
seconding.
Rewatched TLA recently, and the show holds up better than I remember

>>90344717
He knows firebenders use RAGE to fire bend. He dislikes Firebending as well. This was just two birds with one stone for him.

>>90344640
Literally perfect. 10/10; all years.

>>90343740
I'd add

Korra Alone
A New Spiritual Age
Enter the Void
Welcome to Republic City
Skeletons in the Closet
Out of the Past
Endgame
After All These Years
And The Winner Is...
Operation Beifong
The Ultimatum
The Last Stand

>>90320102
Too bad most of the first season looks like shit because Nick can't be assed to actually release the broadcast quality.

>Hey, let's re-release ATLA as a box set!
>Great idea!
>But let's just reuse the fucked up quality ones that everyone has complained about for years.
>K

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What are your favorite fight scenes?

The three way battle at the end of The Chase is one of my favorites, felt an old western showdown

>>90346677
>See op
>Feel like a jackass
>Delete post

>>90346452
and so you're telling me that his jerk bending joke was out of character, simply because in all the situations that might have given Sokka an understandable dislike of firebending, maybe he was wise enough to see the difference between the art of firebending and the intent behind using it to harm people?
Sorry, but I think it's pretty much part of his character that Sokka doesn't like firebending.

>>90327566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az7XnIs-_d0

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>>90346778
Shame about how it ends

>>90346829
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm not the guy who was complaining about that joke (though I do think it fell flat also). I don't think that line held any particular hostility behind it, as one other guy mentioned I think he was just trying to help because he thought getting them riled up might fuel their ability to firebend.

>>90346677

Good choices. Nice to see some love for A New Spiritual Age. Wouldn't say any of them are 10/10, but all in the 7-9 range.

>>90346870
I think we're getting close to the territory of splitting hairs, but why the fuck not.
Spiritual enlightenment doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as letting go your earthly tether.
I think the more important question is why is P'li Zaheer's last earthly tether when he clearly cares a shitload about killing Korra and returning the world to anarchy?

>>90346778
Every fight in The Blue Spirit
Final showdown in Zuko Alone
Zuko vs. Zhao agni kai
That time Iroh got kidnapped and he was swinging around chains like a beast

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>>90346717
You earned a meme, anon.

>>90347026
Maybe ideals about "true freedom" aren't earthly

>>90346919
While I do like Zuko lightning bolt sacrifice, I definitely would have preferred him to actually defeat Azula. Way better character growth imo.

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>>90346919
I rewatched this for the first time in a very long time and man I shed a tear how well crafted these two episodes are. I really forgot how god tier this series was.

So much detail in every single aspect in animation. Every shot is visually gorgeous and the character's emotions feel so visceral and alive. I still find this hard to believe that this kind of quality was found in a kid's show.

>>90346992
I'd say a couple of them are 10/10, though I agree that the rest are 7-9 range

>>90346992
A New Spiritual Age could have been one of the best episodes of the series if the stuff that Korra learned in the Spirit World had paid off in the finale.

For fuck's sake, she spends the whole episode learning about finding the light in the dark and healing spirits with positive emotions and in the end Jinora is the one who does that in the final fight.

>>90348292
>For fuck's sake, she spends the whole episode learning about finding the light in the dark and healing spirits with positive emotions and in the end Jinora is the one who does that in the final fight.
Jinora just helps Korra find the light in the dark, Korra is still the one to find it, pull it out, and then heal Unavaatu with the same technique she learned from Unalaq

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Avatar Kyoshi is so pretty~

Severely underrated character

>>90349533

>Kyoshi lived to be 250 years old because the writers fucked up

And people say Korra has bad writing.

>>90349533
More like incredibly overrated by the "ZOMG SHE WAS SUCH AN EBIN BADASS AND EDGY BLOODTHIRSTY MURDERER" crowd.

>>90350108
This sounds familiar but I can't remember when in the show it said that

>>90350108
Let's see:
>A relatively minor math error that doesn't really change much
vs.
>Being steeped in ridiculously bullshit writing in every facet of the show
Nah, I think those people are right - and you, anon, are wrong.

>>90351658
>and you, anon, are wrong
so dramatic

>>90330360

Azula was just having a breakdown.

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>>90351736
That's just how I roll.

>>90346677
>Any korra episode
>10/10
You make me physically ill

>>90352500
Not my problem anon. I can't make you not have physical reactions to differing opinions. Maybe you should see a doctor about your problem.

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>>90318317
How something this good aired on Nickelodeon is beyond me

>>90343740
Old Masters was the best of the finale though. It didn't have the kick ass action scenes of the last two, but it had the Bumi scene, Aang talking with past lives, Zuko/Iroh reconnecting, Katara and Zuko bonding, fucking June was back. It was awesome.

>>90352570
It's not about opinions
The show is objectively bad from a writing standpoint, there are 0 good characters and 0 good episodes. It took ATLA, a beautiful epic, and raped it for money. There was no soul or heart in anything. it's worse than the movie

>>90352786
Look everyone, this anon wants attention! take your (you) and leave.

>>90352786
I dunno man. I disliked LoK immensely but there were some parts that I liked. Korra Alone was pretty good from memory.

>>90352817
>can't refute >>90352786

Look everyone, I made a strawman!

>>90352786
>The show is objectively bad from a writing standpoint

Really makes you think. I used to love the show, but hate it now after reading this.

>>90352899
Again with the strawmen. If you aren't smart enough to engage in an argument, don't pretend to be

>>90352994
Dude, I hate Korra too, but blanket statements aren't arguments. (You) have to explain why the writing is objectively bad. (You)'re just making inflammatory statements.

>>90352786
>not about opinions
you can call your opinion "objective" if you want, but that doesn't make it true.
I hope you're just baiting and not ACTUALLY that cynical.

>>90352786
>It's not about opinions
It absolutely is.

>The show is objectively bad from a writing standpoint,
It is not. If it was, there would be no fans and the show wouldn't be praised for its writing.

> there are 0 good characters and 0 good episodes.
In your opinion. I, and others, do not share that opinion.

>It took ATLA, a beautiful epic, and raped it for money.
No it didn't.

>There was no soul or heart in anything.
Just wrong, have you even seen the show?

> it's worse than the movie
This is how I can tell you're baiting. No one in their right might would think this. I can understand disliking the show, but that's crossing the line.

Way to ruin the thread, faggots.

>>90352994
Lol with the MUH STRAWMANS. You only said it was bad, you didn't say why. How are we supposed to tell you how wrong you are if you won't say anything besides "I didn't like it and therefore it's objectively bad."

>>90353127
The thing I hate most about LoK is that we can't have a discussion about just ATLA without some faggots turning it into an argument about Korra.

>>90353159
The thing I hate most about LoK is the people who vehemently defend it, even ignoring any and all faults because they enjoyed it.

>>90353136
>>90353104
>>90353099
>>90353051
>>90352994
>>90352899
>>90352863
>>90352862
>>90352817
>>90352786
>>90352570
>>90352500
>>90346677
LOK WAS worse than the movie, though... if only because the movie can easily be dismissed, while LOK is actually official and made by Bryke.

>>90353159
>>90353220
The thing I hate most about LoK is the people who vehemently hate on it and interject themselves into every thread and who make it their life's mission to tell everyone that "LoK is objectively bad here's why" and who can't allow people to just talk about what they like and who ignore rebuttals because they hated it. And who act like their opinion is the only opinion.

>>90353294
u'r waifu a shite

>>90353304
>he thinks Korra is my waifu

>>90353294
This is an ATLA thread. If anyone wants to discuss Korra go make you own thread. That goes for everyone.

>>90353294
Take note that this was a fairly decent AtLA thread until Korra was brought up.
I wonder who is at fault; the people who hate the show or those that know other people hate it and continue to rub it in their faces?

>>90353344
>stop discussing comics and cartoons in my comics and cartoons board it TRIGGERS ME

Fuck off with this shit.

Korra is ultimately a part of the series, love it or hate it, and there are some things it legitimately added to the Avatar mythos, and for that alone it's worth reflecting on, at the very least as a comparison point to the original series.

If you can't handle that, perhaps something like >>>/tv/ might be more your speed.

>>90353409
Okay, so it's those that know other people hate it and continue to rub it in their faces, just like you.
Way to miss my point so much that I had to spell it out for you.

Korra's shit, go make your own thread.

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>it's a comfy Avatar thread turns into Korra hate circlejerk episode

>>90353294
LoK on its own is not a bad show. But because it failed to live up to the name of its predecessor people shit on it endlessly, and for good reason. It took such a beautiful and inspired series and threw it in the gutter of mediocrity.

>>90353294
fucking this. Korra was discussed peacefully and respectfully way earlier in the thread, and then some fucking man child comes along and now we're arguing over who's worse, Korra baiters or Korra haters

>>90353520
It takes at least 2 people to shit up a thread.
Don't act like you're not to blame, too.

>>90353474
>But because it failed to live up to the name of its predecessor
I disagree.

> people shit on it endlessly, and for good reason.
Literally only on /co/, and primarily after the finale(beforehand there were a good number of people who didn't just shhit on the show.

If you go to any of the other Avatar-related forums and sites, Korra isn't just shit on endlessly. There are people who talk about what they like and discuss the show without just blindly hating on it.

> It took such a beautiful and inspired series and threw it in the gutter of mediocrity.
Not really.

>>90353520
yeah, exactly my point.

Let's get this thread back on track. Here's my top ten off the top of my head, in no particular order.

>Zuko Alone
>Tales of Ba Sing Se
>The Storm
>Blue Spirit
>Siege of the North
>The Guru
>Crossroads of Destiny
>Avatar and the Firelord
>The Southern Raiders
>Sozin's Comet

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>>90353605

Good list. Would put most of them on my top 10.

>>90353605
They're all quality episodes, but which is your favourite?
Bonus points for it not being one of the best written, but one you just enjoy overall.

I like 'The Great Divide'

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>>90353593
I'm OP, and I say YOU can go make your own thread. This is 4chan, where we don't have to stay 100% on the original topic if multiple posters find a related topic more interesting.

That said, I'm not against returning to the original topic either, per the post above.

>>90353719
Notice how we were getting back on track, autist.
Cut the shit.

>Not a single mention of Ember Island Players

I lost a little bit of faith in people today.

>>90353719
>I'm OP, and I say...

Pfffthahaha you do you think you are, you cockgobbling faggot.

>>90353777
To be fair, some people hate it because they attribute it to clip show episodes that most shows only resort to when they've run out of ideas.

I think it's fantastic, however.
A good recap and actually had some plot stuff.

>>90353693
That's tough. To answer you question, I can't help but love Crossroads, even if I don't think it's technically the best. It brings me back to when I first watched it and blew my mind as a kid, so it has special sentimental value to me.

>>90341125
Why the hell did you save this image twice

>>90353777

First time I watched Ember Island Players
>What the fuck did I just watch?

Second time
>This is actually pretty cool

Third time
>Holy shit this episode is brilliant

>>90353719
>I'm OP,
So fucking what?

>>90353882
That's some fine taste, anon.
The Southern Air Temple has similar value to me, as I remember it clearly when it first aired ha and solidified part of who Aang really is, as well as showing aspects of other characters and showing how awe-inspiring the Avatar State can be.
That multiple voices at once thing still sends chills down my spine.

>>90353907
It's just a cleverly disguised recap episode, what's so special about it?

>>90354144

It's special because it takes the concept of a recap episode and makes it into something really clever and funny.

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>>90343740
Damn good list right here

I know it's cliche but Sozin's comet part 4 was my favorite. The final battle between Ozai and Aang and switching back to Zuko and Azula was fucking art. Best finale of anything I've ever seen.

>>90355045
The rock didn't bother you?

>>90318317
Its still baffling to me how good this show was all said and done.

Like, normally when you have something like this, the hype drives it and cracks show with time, and eventually, you see more and more flaws in it.

And for sure, Avatar isnt perfect. But god damn me if it wasnt near to the mark. So much of the show holds up so DAMN well. Its honestly a bit astounding.

>>90355091
Rock?

>>90343371
Wise, explainy, and above criticism

>>90355091
The rock never actually bothered me that much. Yeah, he got lucky, but I can't think of how else you would resolve it. He can't have the avatar state at the beginning of s3 because that would be OP, and there aren't many other things that could happen to unlock it again. You could've had Aang defeat Ozai without it, but that'd be unrealistic and lame. All in all, I was okay with it.

>>90355091
How else would you have resolved it?

>>90352646

I can agree with that. Underrated episode.

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>>90355091
I forgot about that. Honestly he prob didn't even need the rock, he had already let go of his ties, he really just needed the right kind of push same as always.

>>90353777
Fantastic, utterly clever episode, but narrowing down top favorites it doesn't quite make the list for me. Still great though.

I loved the puppetmaster. Spooky shit

>>90355775
yeah that's one I wanted to add to the 10/10 list but also could understand why it wouldn't be.