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Who is the most disappointing character in Homestuck?

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Who is the most disappointing character in Homestuck?
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Lord english
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the one who keeps making these threads
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>>90302165
Oh shut up hotpockets
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Slick
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Seconding Lord English. They had been been building him up since the Intermission.


Jake and Karkat got it pretty bad as well.
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>>90301997
Andrew Hussie.
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It's Lord English.

They build him up like you literally could not take him or get close to him in an actual brawl, and yet some minor scrub characters take him on and Aradia even has him in a noose.
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>>90302348
His power set, his design, get his role is some cosmic universe eating destructive force were all fine. But then he didn't fucking do anything. It ended up being that the biggest motivation for people to fight him was because he bullied them online when he was a ten year old.
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>>90302444
To be fair, that's a fairly innovative motivation
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>what was the point of Karkat?
>HIVESWAP WHEN
>davekat sure is bad!
>Jade "Breedslut" Harley xDD
>Kanayaposting & Katneposting
>WHY DO THEY KEEP DRAWING KIDS AS NIGGERS

There, thread's over. You can go home now.
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>>90302622

Man, we really do just go in circles don't we.

Maybe this is hell.
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>>90302733
Not in circles, spirographs
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>>90302622
>what was the point of Karkat?
We will never be free until we know this fact.

It will release us.
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>>90301997
This one.
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>>90302622
>what was the point of Karkat?

Vriska needed a place to put her 8ulge in between gutting the shit out of Terezi with it
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"Hi, I'm Zoze Laloze.
Wanna play some videogames?"
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>>90302622
I need a new waifu and a new fetish for them
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>>90302827
Why does your shirt cover your face
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>>90302829
Eridan

If he spends too long in water above a certain temperature he goes into heat and you can knock him up
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>>90302829
Ms. Paint, hard vore.
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>>90302873
>>90302904
On second thought, I will just stick with the breedslut
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>>90302938
Ms. Paint can be the breedslut.

Helping repopulate with the help of the now cyber-headed Spades.
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>>90302938
Nigger I just explained to you the exact mechanism by which you can make Eridan a breedslut
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>>90302938
You fucking coward. Go hard or go home.

>>90302956
This is good, though.
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>>90302977
Eridan is not a waifu
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>>90302987
>tfw no spin off of Spades trying to make a shitty gangster paradise again while Ms Paint ruins it by being nice
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>>90301997
Disregard what OP says, he sucks cocks.
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>>90302997
I disagree
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>>90302938
You have chosen wisely my son.
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>>90301997
the reader
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>>90303027

This is the ending we deserve.
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>>90302997
Eridan is wwhatevver you want him to be, baby.
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>>90301997
I want to drawfag but it's 1 am and a monday. Maybe later.
>>90302801
I also can't believe people are saving my shit.
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>>90303028
First off, that's clearly Cronus. and second off, you can disagree, but you're still wrong
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>>90302846
She has a purple splotch painted on her bare chest. And she's wearing bracelets.
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>>90303067
They look the same, they're literally clones of each other. And both are great places to put your dick.
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>>90303027
>best ending is Karkat salvaging a harem of Nepetas from dead dreams and becoming a Genghis Khan style overlord of the new planet
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>>90303082
I think they're right, the purple streak's been visibly dyed black. They might have also meant the wisps of hair that could be mistaken for his dual scars, but that's not guaranteed.
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>>90303083
Don't forget the muelins and disciples in the image for catgirl /ss/.
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>>90303137
>>90303083
Someone post the 'king karkat' image
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>>90303137
I'm just pissed that they wimped out on the epilogue, too.

That was the reassurance. "It's okay anons, Karkat is important for the epilogue, really!"

And he does fucking nothing. He's not the leader, he's not even important. What the actual fuck.

And this isn't even OLD foreshadowing. That was the reason Kanaya was told to knock him out near the end!
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Who's the best waifu written by Hussie and why is her name Carmen Pearlskipper?
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>>90303177

The epilogue hasn't come out yet.

That being said I don't have high hopes.
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>>90303285
>karezi

Fuck off back to >>>/2013/
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>>90303285
Now that's a cozy ship. That's a ship you can really curl up in and take a nap.
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>>90303291
Fuck you anon. It's some comfy ass art. Would you rather have me bombard this thread with my fuckhuge nepeta folder?
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>>90303291
You mean when Homestuck was salvageable?
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>>90303285
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>>90303323
I really want to see the most obscure Nepeta shipping art you got. That'd generally mean any ships with her and anyone who isn't Karkat or Terezi, keeping in mind that posting her and Equius in a romantic relationship is punishable by death.
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>>90303400
>Caliborn tells Nepeta his murder plans
>she keeps shipping the characters and annoys him
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>>90303400

Beat this.

Protip: You can't.
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>>90303302

M-mabe the epilogue will fix her.
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>>90303407
Before Caliborn's face was revealed I drew shipping art of a speculative troll design for him and Nepeta because I figured he'd like jerking off to her art, and at the time he just seemed like a nastier Karkat.

>>90303427
Try THIS on for size
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>>90303370
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>>90303304

>>90303291
This.
>epilogue shows karezi in the dreambubbles
>hst praises the epilogue as god tier
>no karkat characterization
>just him being terezi's husband
Just like how people actually believed Karkat is going to join Meenah's quest instead of still wanting to win the Terezibowl and getting cucked hard by Vriska for eternity.
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>>90303400
I have this because I thought it was fucking weird. Other than that I only save pure nepeta images. Porn counts as pure too as long as it's done correctly.
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>>90303479
Hello, vriskashitposter.
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>>90303453

Damn, that's pretty good.

BUT CAN IT BEAT THIS?!
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>>90303524
>LEIJONCEST
HOW COME NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS. I HAVE SO MANY IDEAS NOW.
>>90303453
I actually have a few dirk/nep around for this occasion but you beat me to it.
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>>90303400
>>90303524

Actually this is even better.

Who makes this schlock
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>>90303454
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>>90303563
I don't know. I only have nsfw images of this.
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>>90303551
You'd better be planning on including the Disciple in there somewhere.

>>90303563
Holy shit that is some fine art

>>90303524
But dancestor incest? Amateurish. Canon, even, in one instance.

Scope this.
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Is it actually possible for a fan-made character to be of higher quality than the authors original work???
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>>90303524
HOW ABOUT THIS, FUCKER?
Wasn't there an Equius x Dad's laundry ship?
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>>90303589
You fucking bet. The sequel will also have /ss/ with karkat and the disciple. Maybe redglare too. I have a bad habit of making rough sketches and completing them way later though.
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>shipping
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>>90303589

I don't think I can top that.


You win.
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>>90303645
There's lots of weird shit out there anon. I should be responsible and head to bed though.
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>>90303593

Of course anon, what kind of silly question is that?
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>>90303645
This fandom's cup runneth over with weird shipping art, making a game out of it is just taking advantage of an abundant resource.

>>90303649
There's probably something odder out there but I'm satisfied.
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>>90303534
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>>90303572
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>>90303764
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>>90303758
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>>90301997
Gamzee. Hussie gave into pressure of fans and people who started working on the comic with him and it completely ruined his character. He got no redemption, no place in the ending, nothing. He had the best potential out of every character and he just ended up being a fridge joke and nothing else in the end because fans began to hate him because stupid tumblrina retards can't tell the difference between liking a character because of their arcs and the way they're written and not who they'd be if they were a literal living person in our world.
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>>90303774
YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO EDIT. VICTORY.
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>>90303783
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>shitrezi
>toddler karkat and mommy kanaya """"pale""" relationship

Do you guys actually talk about the comic or post about dumb fictional relationships?
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>>90303784
The fact that the whole fucking 5x showdown combo was retconned was tragic. It showed Karkat wasn't THAT useless and that gamzee could've at least had some weird form of redemption. It also marks the trend of all of Karkats best friends going into the garbage bin.
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>>90303829
>not realizing those images were of the signless and dolorosa
Did you even fucking read the comic?
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>>90303829
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>>90301997
We are.
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>>90303057
Cronus?
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>>90303995
That would require you actually wanting Cronus.
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What's he fishing for?
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>>90304161
Replies
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>>90304161
Goddamn man dont let a phone so close to the water.
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>>90303966
I can't believe Karkat fucked Dolorosa.
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Vriska.
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>>90303995
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Let's have some actual discussion
What things did you like/dislike about Homestuck that you don't see get talked about? I really appreciated the early story handling of computer chat programs for being ridiculous but also somewhat believable.
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>>90305742
I dislike the fact that half the trolls just existed to die/fuck off
RIP Sollux
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>>90305742
> that you don't see get talked about?
Man I fucking hate when I see "why isn't anyone talking about ..." posts.

I'd like to know why Act 6 is longer than Acts 1-5 when I feel it has less substance. Is it just my perception? I haven't sat down to analyze it for a proper critique, and if I don't do the work I think I shouldn't press the author for an answer.
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>>90305829
It's because it needs to jump between two new sets of characters that need to be established AND go through their entire arcs (almost all of which aren't very good), give the entire background of Alpha Earth, constantly check in with the old cast, reintroduce the old cast into the story, essentially reveal everything we know about the main villain, what his plans are, and the path to stopping him, introduce new mechanics into the setting, finish up everyone's arcs, and conclude the story. And let's not forget the immeasurable fuck tonne of teenage relationship drama.

There's too much going on in too many directions. Even with an endless deluge of exposition dumps and abandoned concepts and plots threads, it spreads itself far too thin.
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>>90305742

I legitimately liked Eridan. He was representative of the real shittier part of the Troll species that existed as well as a litmus for how fucked the Condesce made society work. Eridan shares the same trait as Vriska with discovering a part of their history with some token left behind by their ancestor. Eridan, like Vriska, fashions himself to what he has been conditioned to expect from his station in life as well as the exploits of his lineage, but unlike Vriska never actually enjoys success in what he tries to do. He has a real skewed look at romance without ever visibly understanding it and his reasoning for desiring the genocide of land-dwellers really sits on flimsy tinder. All in all he's Draco Malfoy wearing Harry Potter's garb and makes all the horribly wrong decisions all on the blatant obliviousness he maintains regarding his own cognitive dissonance in regards to other trolls. And what's stunning is that it all does pay off: he does snap and do a number of bad things that eventually results in him getting his comeuppance.

He also had the original shitty love triangle ages before the Jane-Jake-Dirk shit triangle even came to be, and honestly I think the Eridan-Feferi-Sollux triangle was much more engaging in that it at least lead to two of them getting killed into irrelevance and the last being left in a purgatory where Hussie couldn't ruin them as a character in the following years.

The only thing I might tweak of this whole thing would be to have an ironic echo of Eridan getting killed by Gamzee rather than Kanaya. That purpose sits twofold in that Kanaya ceases to be a character after Murderstuck and exists as a prop at the end of Homestuck (to the point of her being dead not making much a difference) and Gamzee and Eridan playing out the same that had happened when the Orphaner reported to the Grand Highblood.
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>>90306341
>tfw you will never see a poorblood Troll becoming evil who isn't filler like Damara
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>>90306551

Damara was a really neat idea that had absolutely no punch to her because her betrayal and selling out to Lord English never actually comes to fruition or is revealed. The whole drama that led Damara from turning into what she is even was told off-handedly and was so divorced from what we as readers were supposed to pay attention to that it easily falls on wayside as 'interesting side trivia' than something we actually could get invested in.

The Dancestor story really is what a vehicle like the Paradox Space comics should have explored because that would have been markedly more intimate than what we got.
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>>90306650
I am hoping that Karkat ends up as a villain. Much better than being shipping bait and having DaveJade and Davekat assholes shitpost each other.
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>>90306679

Karkat having ANY significance to warrant being KO'd by Kanaya for the sake of the Troll species is welcome by now, Hell, I'll take the explanation that Karkat is the living embodiment of what not to be as a Troll for the rest of the species as a consolation prize.
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>>90304161
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Is homestuck worth reading? I read the first act a few years ago and I haven't picked it up again.
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>>90307872
If you have the time, sure.
It's very big and has something for anyone, especially if you like time travel, aliens and videogames.
You can also read Problem Sleuth while you're at it.
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>>90307872
Just trudge through it until you get to Eridan, then commit yourself to the eternal praise of our prince.
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So now that it's pretty much confirmed that Hussie Is Chuck Tingle, do you think he will ever actually return to his own comic or will he just keep shitting out those novels?
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>>90308629
What the hell are you talking about
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>>90309400
I'll get the spray bottle
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>>90309467
Rose needs that spray bottle more than Jade
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>>90309499
I'll spray them with something alright
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>>90302801
>Vriska
>disappointing
How? She had her Arc in Act 5 and Vriskafans were only pissed as fuck that she died while Gamzee survived.
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>>90309536
Bug spray?
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>>90309536
Yeah, the spray bottle. We just went over this.
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>>90309682
Rose looks white trash there, also i dont think john would be so buff.
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>>90309793
Rose is white trash and John has mangrit
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>>90309793
>i dont think john would be so buff.
MANGRIT
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>>90305781
What happened to Sollux, I don't remember where half the characters in this damn comic ended up
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>>90309793
Rose is probably the classy version of white trash, you know?
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>>90309880
I think of rose as potato and everything else is uncanny.
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>>90309969
Yeah, so upper class white trash
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>>90309682
>no feet showing
Pathetic.
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>>90303589
>hooman
>smol
how can these people stand seeing themselves in the mirror?
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>>90305739
>he actually had dakimakuras to alchemize this with
>he actually convinced them to give captcha codes of themselves
Cronus thinks ahead, I'll give him that.
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>>90310178
Better question: Why does Jade have literal beachball sized tits.
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>>90310173
>implying they own mirrors
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>>90310376
monitors are reflective enough
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>>90310394
Not really
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>>90310269
fertility overload
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>>90310231
He could also have one of those captcha-cameras, that seems more in character.
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>this never came up again
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>>90310997
Jade alchemized it with a dildo or something during the three years.
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>>90310997
Alchemy in general seems like Hussie could put out a bunch of plot points then follow them if he felt like it. That's how he writes.
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>>90311058
F8CK 8FF
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>>90311370
Fixed
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>>90311465
I'm sure Jade knows how to shave.
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>>90311801
You mean her puffy puppy pussy?
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>>90311886

Naw man, I'm talking about her big, meaty dog cock with a knot the size of a grapefruit.
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>>90311924
Oh, well that's off in stupid-land. It's busy not-existing in a dumb fetish meeting, but I can take a message if you want.
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>>90311966
Tell it its wife called and wants it to pick up takeout for dinner tonight please.
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>>90312065
>>90311966
Jade's noncanon dogcock seems to be doing well for itself these days. That's sweet.
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Does anyone have that old screencrap from these threads about "spewing the filth"? Pretty sure it's from the same post that was turned into the "THE FIRST TIME I GOT A BONER I THOUGHT IT WAS A DISEASE AND CRIED ALL DAY." banner
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>>90311542
Why would she want to, though? Get this sterile, boring, tasteless obsession with shaving out of here.
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>>90312362
She's clearly shaved her legs.
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>>90312435
That's just courtesy
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>>90312176
>early alpha kid art
It seems all so innocent now.
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>>90312753
Nowadays it would be
>Crockercorp Jane: LET'S FUCK OR SOMETHING!
>Wuss Jake: Nuuuh!
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Alright Tell Me About Your Opinions On God Tier Fashion
>Best Aspect Symbol
>Best Aspect Color Scheme
>Best Class Outfit
>Personal Favorite Combination
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:33 < john, i have a problem with the way you've decorated this room. as a cat i am colourblind and this sends me into a rage. you've created a rage room for me here and i don't like it. i want you to change it.
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>>90313480
:33 < i eat, john
:33 < its what i do
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>>90313197
>>Best Aspect Symbol
Time
>>Best Aspect Color Scheme
Void
>>Best Class Outfit
Prince
>>Personal Favorite Combination
Prince of Breath
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>>90302444
To be fair, this is a very satisfying motivation
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>>90303058
Draw more sad Vriska
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>>90303593
>Touhou
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>>90314045
Yeah maybe in the hands of a better writer.
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>>90309851
He just flew away one day
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>>90314233
he found god and is a religious man now.
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>>90306341
I like that Hussie went out of his way to have Eridan get rejected by just about every girl in the series, including the two humans.

But yeah, as far as 'characters who are engaging but also shitty people' are concerned, Eridan was always better than Vriska and Gamzee for me. Vriska and Gamzee's shittiness as people was always very alien, with Vriska representing the worst traits of troll culture while Gamzee was just an emotional wreck. Eridan, on the other hand, felt very human in his shittiness. Like, you may meet a Vriska once in your life, if you're really unlucky, but just about everyone's met someone who's screws themselves over constantly and fucks up everyone around them. Plus, as you said, he's one of the few trolls who actually get a full arc, even if it's from 'disaffected loser' to 'school shooter'
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There's nothing more inspiring in the Homestuck comic than Dirk's love for his brother, in all its forms.
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>>90314348
>flirted with every girl
He never flirted with Terezi, Aradia and Kanaya.
And never did he flirt with Gamzee and Tavros.

Eridan really dislikes cripples or robots.
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What is the most QUALITY scene in the entire comic?
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>>90315487
Pantskat or Rorb Laborb.
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>>90315487
the one panel with Jane, Roxy and ARquiusprite
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>>90315628
Post pls
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>>90303774
Worst moment in Homestuck. Forever destroyed whatever joy was left in the comic.
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>>90315809
>joy
>Karezi
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>>90313197
The game assigned me to hope, but my skin looks sickly terrible when I wear yellow. Reds or greens are fine, but not yellow, and orange is still funny-looking. Is there something I can do to make myself look better in my divine pyjamas?
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>>90315837
Ipgd shut up
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>>90313197
>Best Aspect Symbol
Light
>Best Aspect Color Scheme
Void
>Best Class Outfit
Mage
>Personal Favorite Combination
Mage of Void
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>>90315837
>implying its only Karezi
It's also the moment that Terezi solved her problem without solving her problem. "You don't need him!" Yeah, ditch the only partner who hasn't treated you like complete shit for the girl that blinded you. What a fucking fantastic idea!

Don't be retarded, anon.
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>>90316101
But it seems Vriska actually stops her from hatefucking Gamzee.
And her first priority as a ghost was looking for Vriska in the dreambubbles.
And according to Tumblr, Karkat is an emotional abuser who manipulated Terezi unlike Vriska who actually saved her from this psychopath.
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>>90316049
Mages of Void are the best.
I dare you to find a better classpect on power and outfit.
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Kanaya a shit.
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>>90316310
Mage of Void? Isn't that just a know-nothing?
Sure, you'd know secrets, but by making the secret known, you'd lose it. You'd be a Cassandra.
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Who is best troll and why is it Eridan?
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>>90317173
>Cassandra
A what?
>>
>Lord Egnlish is a shit-tier villain
>has a god tier theme
How is it possible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zMnNCDaKuE
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>>90301997
Before act 6: Tavros
During act 6 to the end: Karkat

Honorable mention goes to Terezi for being absolutely useless but also absolutely obnoxious until she basically told John (a breath player) what to do in order to retcon the comic.
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>>90317522
I actually forgot Tavros was a character until Travrisprite.
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>>90317462
Man, The Felt is such a solid album.
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do you think any girls come to these threads

does anyone
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>>90317894
I'm sure there are.
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>>90317894
The threads are fucking DEAD LIKE THE COMIC

GET A HOBBY
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>>90317951
What if his hobbies are dead comics?
>>
eri
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>>90317951
says the butthurt virgin loser on /co/
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>>90302444
For the last fucking time, he was not a 10 year old. All kids were the same age.
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>>90318241
The cherubs were not, rtfc Cohen
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Which homestuck has:

-the ashiest skin

-the yellowest toenails

-the saggiest breasts
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>>90319556
Jane for all three
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>>90319583
Jade*
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>>90319847

Lies, Jane is flat-chested and therefore cant have saggy breasts
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>>90319894
*Jade
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>>90302348
Especially because his stint as Caliborn was so good. For a character to have a great lead-up as we see them grow to their final former, then we get a time skip and see that final form and it'seems lost all of the charms of their younger form... it's just the biggest letdown.

Like ben10 Gwen and alien force Gwen.
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>>90319847
Jade is curvy and has health skin and toenails, you shut the flip up.
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>>90313197
>Best Aspect Symbol
Light
>Best Aspect Color Scheme
Light
>Best Class Outfit
Rogue
>Personal Favorite Combination
Sylph of Hope
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>>90313197
hope
doom
mage
knight of hope
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>>90302733
I mean, there's a reason they killed off the general.
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>>90320129
Because they were lazy fuckers who can't do their jobs properly?
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>>90313197

Rage

Hope

Prince

Prince of Hope
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>Hiveswap will now be more than a month late

You can't make this sort of shit up.
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>>90320147
>Joey
>condoms
>a daughter of Jake
>condoms
Bitch please
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>>90320433
more like three years late
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>>90320787
Well that's the context that makes it so ludicrous.
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Man why the hell do you people keep making these threads? It's been over for a long time now, everyone's forgotten about homestuck and moved on to something else. There's nothing left to discuss, it's all dead.
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>>90320499
Daughters of Jakes and Sons of Dirk
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>>90320987
Epilogue is still coming.

Whatever that ends up being.

And Hiveswap is presumably coming out someday. Maybe.
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>>90320433
you think they'll stretch it all the way to 4/13
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>>90320903
why are these comic chapters laid out like an HTML page writeup?
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>>90321662
Christ, at this point it's a possibility.
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>>90303774
If this had been to prevent him from being too distracted with romance stuff to be the leader that kept them all from doing stupid stuff, then that would have been perfectly fine. Trade Kar-rezi for Karkat finished arc and compotency. Them both give up on the will-they-won't-they middle school romance and grow beyond into whole, heroic adults.

But instead Vriska.
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>>90322332
She knows.
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>>90322358
w-what does she know?
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reminder that Sollux was the first and only character to realize that the entire comic was a load of bullshit and gtfo of the story to fuck bitches instead of being a part of it
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>>90322600
That this whole shitty earth C is her creation.
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>>90322731
Truly, the hero of the story
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>>90322731
Is Sollux, dare I say it, our guy?
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>>90322917
honestly at this point in the discourse TOG are /ourgents/
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Why is Terezi/Jade a thing?
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>>90323228
Because reasons
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>>90323228
It's not? Unless you mean the thing Davekat shippers do.
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>>90323455
>anon sees a ship that's not davekat
>"hmm, but how do i make it about davekat?"
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>>90323514
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>90323555
They're a moron, ignore them.
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>>90323514
That IS true though. When Jade started cozying up to Dave, a bunch of davekat shippers started pushing Terezi and Jade as a couple, in a sort of pair the spares situation.
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>>90323615
What about davepeta
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>>90323923
Who cares
>>
Homestuck ruined my life.
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>>90323923
>what about shit character
See? Davepeta """fans""" were just Davekat fans all along. They even wrote this character off as dead, so they can pick Terezi as alternate ship.

And when Terezi will never come back, they will choose John or Jane to fuck Jane. And then they start pushing OT3 if nothing works.
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>>90322981
TOG would fall squarely under shit tier
besides, look at that fucking logo, that just screams "evil shadow demons"
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>>90324061
>jane to fuck jane
Yeah the prospits seem like masturbation addicts to me too
>>
HOMESTUCK RUINED MY LIFE HOMESTUCK RUINED MY LIFE HOMESTUCK RUINED MY LIFE
PLEASE SEND ME BACK
I NEED A DO OVER
ILL GET IT ALL RIGHT THIS TIME
I HATE BEING ALIVE
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Nepeta drawfag here. I retconned the retcon because it was fun.
>>90311465
AHAHAHA. HOW MANY VERSIONS OF THIS IMAGE HAVE YOU FUCKERS MADE?
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>>90325175
who is "him"?
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>>90301997
In the end?
Everyone. Fucking everyone.
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>>90325175
I made minor edits. I'm a fucking idiot.
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>>90325285
Dave. I thought it was pretty obvious. Would it be better if I straight up wrote dave?
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>>90302348
His fuckery became the main act in act 6 and what the others did was an intermission.

After he killed Hussie, he made himself the main character and Act 6 should've been concluded with his removal and the reinstallation of Hussie as the author.

But since Act 6 was so underwhelming and already had so many aborted arcs, it was clear that Hussie just wanted to end this trainwreck.
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>>90325300
... I don't read the name file.... FUCK I'M AN IDIOT
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>>90325175
Three? Jade with boyfriend panties, Jade with self panties, and hair
>>
Is Andrew aware of how badly he ruined Homestuck and is just indifferent to it because it means he's free now, or does he sincerely believe the way he ended things was acceptable?
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>>90326068
He has his own little bubble of sycophants, but given his recent isolation I think he's aware of how badly he screwed up on some level
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>>90325994
I can't believe she stole Dave's personal panties
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>>90317418
What are they teaching kids these days?
Here, lemmie make it easy on you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
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>>90326300
I can't believe John got both Lalondes pregnant!
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>>90325126
> gelasticat
> not bending over backwards to get diversity points
is xie feeling okay?
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>>90326362
I almost uploaded a parody of the big masculine characters drawn in this manner but she watches me and it seems a little mean. My art is also fairly shitty too.
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oh hey, it's past midnight, so now it's the first of the month on the US east coast.
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>>90326555
AW

YEAH
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>>90326555
I keep forgetting march eri exists. The guy's a total lost cause but fun to draw because of how much possibilities there are.
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>>90326445
GOod parody
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>>90326657
He's the biggest douche in the entire comic and he's great. And he's not like Caliborn or Gamzee, who actually have it in their nature to be dicks.
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>tfw you will never be god of your own personal universe
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>>90327082
Yes. It feels too fucking real sometimes. One thing this comic nailed was the interactions between people occasionally. Some situations I even found VERY relatable. Eridan and Equius just have this presence that feels so familiar to me and how socially inept they can be,
>HEY, YOU DO KISS YOUR ROBOTS, RIGHT?
> D--> not usually
>HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>
>>90327160
Do i get goddess concubines
>>
Oh shit, Homestuck used to be funny waht.
>>
>>90327311
nope
reality fucks us again
>>
>>90327364
I will fuck reality and make it my consort
>>
Was there ever a pseudo-canon thing where some staff member said that Andrew said that Blood had some basis in vitality and resilience or something?
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>>90327339
>Homestuck used to be funny
It's been literal years since Homestuck was funny. Like consistently jokes and humorous situations every couple of panels.
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>>90327475
That would have been cool.
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>>90327475
I had always assumed it had to do with charisma/love/co-operation. He canonically has the most people macking on him and assembled groups pretty well. Maybe resilience in the sense of overcoming hardships. But physical? Not likely. He got owned a lot. But that's probably because of endgame threats.
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>>90324028
Don't shift the responsibility, you ruined it yourself.
And you keep doing it.
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>>90327651
And clown armor.
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>>90325175
>>90325289
I can't read the bottom line because of angle and low contrast.
>>90325300
No, I guessed it even without reading the filename.
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>>90325175
Requesting Vriska 8eating the crap out of Nepeta's fat cat 8utt!
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Hussnasty is weird in hindsight. If you compare to all the on model stuff and fanart.
>>90322917
The entire captor line is /our guy/.
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>>90301997
It's ___you.
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>>90327982
Here.
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>>90327992
I still have the headcanon that Sollux and Feferi escaped into the literal code of the internet, and hide out on dead sites to explore, pork, and just be free of all the bullshit of their cursed narrative birthplace.
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>>90328154
God I bet she rode those dicks every day.
>>
>>90328251
Is Sollux the most inoffensive character in Homestuck? Not only do I not see anyone really hate him (though people might be apathetic towards him), but he doesn't even get the weird tumblr headcanons applied that much.
>>
All of them.
>>
>>
What's the best out-of-context HS quote?
>Everybody out of the god damn way. You got a hat full of bomb, a fist full of penis, and a head full of empty.
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>>90328424
Please don't ever post that thing here again, thank you.
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>>90328692
DAVE: safer than some flintstone vitamins in a bottle
DAVE: keep twisting junior all you get is clicks
DAVESPRITE: asshole thinks its candy
DAVESPRITE: doesnt even know he just stepped on a security rake and got a face full of fucking safety
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>>90328692
Only salvageable quote from this retcon mess:
>because i punched her in the face.
>WHAT
>you heard me.
>>
>>90328692
>CG: LOOK I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FRUITY RUMPUS ASSHOLE FACTORY.
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>>90328135
Why the fuck did Karkat even hide in the bag
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>>90328840
Nepeta thought it'd be funny to fuck with her.
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>>90328692
CG: WHAT THE FUCK IS SHAVING CREAM.
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>>90328019
It's impossible for them to be more disappointing considering that Hussie is in the comic. Unless that anon is Hussie. Or Birch.
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>>90328862
That's just mean.
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goddamn i stopped reading homestuck when all the characters met up on the meteor or whatever, and i just tried to skim through to find out what the fuck happened and it's impossible
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>>90328278

I don't think Sollux is inoffensive, it's just the massive varied cast of Homestuck combined with where his story ended made him a straightforward character which places him firmly in the background.

Sollux is a hacker and was the guy who decoded the SGRUB game which had kicked everything off. His personality is as 'that guy you had as a friend in high school' thing to him in spades. He doesn't get caught up in drama and sticks course into what he has to do. He's not overly selfish, he isn't aggressively outgoing, but he ALSO will do things for others selflessly if he has to, such as getting others into SGRUB and dying to the Vast Glub, or staying behind in the vastness of space with Aradia while sending everyone else away on the meteor after the Green Sun is created.

Sollux has nothing that screams 'handicap' that actually bothers him. Even his lisp is treated tepidly. Being the vehicle of Aradia's death, failing to stop Eridan in the duel (and by that vein, being partially responsible for her dying) and even making SGRUB doesn't psychologically weigh on him in a significant manner because he's always of two minds of whether he's worthless garbage or actually ok. His double theme ironically simplifies him in a cast that is wrapped up in their own complicated bullshit, where the only complicated thing of note about Sollux is trying to pin whether he's alive or dead. His personality is so balanced that even when he's spliced with Eridan into Erisolsprite his personality manages to draw out the self-loathing that forces the Eridan half to apologize to Fefetasprite, or the Feferi portion, for being an absolute giant piece of shit.

Sollux is just a genuinely good person in the cast of psychos and idiots and somehow had the wherewithal to get away from the madness before it poisoned him.

Even the Psiionic and Mituna reflect that 'decent guy' personality that Sollux has. No iteration of a Captor is a vile piece of shit.
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Why did Hussie never draw Dave's sunglasses right?
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>>90329353
It's the 1st of March.
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>>90329371
Maybe in your shitty timezone.
>>
>no panels wasted on Tavros and Jake becoming friends and then telling the bully to fuck off
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>>90329256
They really are just great.
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>>90329400
It's only still yesterday in the West Coast.
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>>90329446
West Coast is Best Coast.
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>>90329509
Not when most of it is made up of California
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>>90329541
Even with that pest cali, the rest of the west still be the best.
>>
>>90302733
>Maybe this is hell.
You know the "You're already dead, this is hell" banner image? That's from old HSG.
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>>90329726
Wasn't the banner where the guy got a boner and cried from HSG? Y'know for a community with lots of shit given to it we left quite a mark. Not to mention the SBAHJ, Doc scratch and Kankri banners.
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>>90326114
I don't think a man with Hussie's ego could ever admit he actually made real mistakes. The most you could get out of him was that he had to make a lot of trade-offs, some painful, but he would maintain that every single one was actually the most correct desicion in context.
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>>90329801
Yeah, the Spongefan banner is from HSG as well.

>ONE TIME I GOT A BONER AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND I CRIED ALL DAY (::4chan)
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>>90329825
I need a collection of these for my MSPA folder. I only acquired SBAHJ and kankri though.
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>>90329910
You'll never collect them all, and you'll never have THE BOOK.l
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>>90329987
FUCK YOU, I WILL. I EVEN FOUND THE GRISTMAS BOOK.
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>>90330054
WHAT DO YOU MEAN FOUND
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>>90330061
THE LISTING TO BUY IT. IN FACT, I SHOULD GET AROUND DOING THAT.
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>>90330102
BUY IT
SCAN IT
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>>90329814
Here's a fun little fact, look through all of the Kickstarter related announcements. Does Hussie ever say sorry, or even something resembling an apology?
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>>90330102
>>90330125
THAT'S A DIFFERENT BOOK
THAT'S HSG THE BOOK 2
YOU CAN'T GET THE PICTURED ONE, IT'S ONE OF A KIND
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>>90330125
I'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO. IF I DO SNAG IT I WILL POST SOME IMAGES WITH MY SHITTY DOODLES AS AN IDENTIFIER.
>>90330144
God damn it. The hunt: CONTINUES.
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Is Hiveswap quite possibly the worst Kickstarter game disaster of all time? At least Mighty No. 9 got RELEASED.
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>>90330144
The newer one I ordered has too much mediocre smut and not enough memes. I NEED the other book.
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I FUCKING HATE VRISKA
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Reminder that Hussie is in Hell.
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Alright gang, listen up!
Since everyone's so bitter about Hiveswap, we have to sell it under a different title. Any suggestions?
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>>90330367
Broken Age
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>>90330367
Nestexchange
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>>90330367
Duke Nukem Forever 2
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>>90330381
Half-Life 3 2
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>>90330367
Undertale 2
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>>90330367
Th8 m8ty num8er 8
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>>90330404
YOU JUST KNOW
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>>90330454
dumb vriska poster
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>>90328706
You're right, we should be posting much better pictures of Calliope.
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I'm glad that Megalovania is now universally associated with a fat skeleton and not with a bitchy spider.
She stole enough good things from us already.
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>>90330307
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>>90330596
But can Toby save Moonsetter from Vriskagram hell
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>>90330209
It's Joey!
are these your doodles you're posting?
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>>90330596
>[S] Wake opened with Bec Noir slaughtering the trolls, and then had Aradia stop him
>Vriska manages to steal the song as her own
>Has now had the song stolen from her
Pottery
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>>90330378
I was actually thinking of this one.
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>>90330736
Yeah.
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Do you guys still bitch about Davekat? Remember: Only one month left until Hussie's magnum opus ship (Davekat) is officially shown.
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let the threads die
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>>90331195
Drawfagging and sharing images is fun. So; no, go fuck yourself.
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>>90331281
re-re-re-re-re-resharing the same old ones again you mean

there is nothing new under the sun and when there is, it'll be shittier than you could want and not /co/ to boot
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>>90331317
Even if that were true, why do you give a shit?
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>>90302827
"i dunno zoze are you just usin me to resurrect your cat and then gonna ditch me with a psychotic spider alien so you can fuck another alien?"
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>>90306341
It made me wish we got more Feferi; both for HER weaknesses (she did straight up use Eridan to feed her lusus while maintaining her own no kill record, remember.) and because she's just a fascinating character who is the ONE troll in Homestuck I wish we got more of, especially setting her against Jade.

I agree, Kanaya didn't derserve that kill and I liked that she fucked up by handing Eridan the smoking gun in the first place. Her killing Eridan was the first step in her change from "BAD helper/inept morail" to the perfect friend and aid and magic fairy that cured Rose off screen because popular.

>>90306142
Man it's almost like there are too many characters being introduced at once and Hussie shouldn't have felt obligated to include 12 more trolls for and that was a giant cash in.
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>>90309793
Rose is from New York, and John hits monsters with a hammer all fucking day.

Put some thought into your fucking headcanons my dude.
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>>90302772
I see in full clarity~
What was so muddy before~
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Which characters are total weenies?
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>>90316229
Yeah it's almost like someone rewrote the narrative to fit their insane fan ideas of what'd be hot and an apathetic author let them to sell t-shirts.

It would ALMOST be good if Terezi finds Vriska and Vriska immediately fucks her over AGAIN because that is what Vriska does, being a monster. As it is the panel just reads like a lifetime movie.
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>>90326445
Still gets me every time.
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>>90301997
I'm most disappointed in myself for reading it as long as I did.
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>>90331586
Short answer: All of them.

Long answer:

Turbo Weenies: Jake and Tavros

Accepted Weenie status and became better: John, Dave and Terezi

Overcame their Weenie status:
Kanaya, Eridan and Aranea

"Normal" Weenies: Everyone else

Insecure Turbo Weenies (trying too hard to be accepted): Karkat, MSPA Reader, You, Meenah, Vriska
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>>90302139
First post best post.
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Friendly reminder that Rose is bisexual and not a lesbian.
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>>90312831
god forbid any of the human dudes be a little masculine.
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>>90331837
Was that actually said in the comic? I'd tuned out by then. Like I thought Hussie went out of his way to ridicule and joss any instance of Rose being attracted to dudes, despite the JohnRose stuff earlier, to the point of her looking at Karkat's shipping chart and being reminded of Lord English.
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>>90331613
>(Vriska)
>monster
Nah, it's Hussie's fetish to humiliate and ruin Karkat's life.

Like some random guy who wants to play as a Paladin or Cleric and Hussie is a That Guy DM who makes him fall several fucking times.
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>>90322731
I remember around 2013 when people started to realize this, alas some people refused to change.
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>>90320987
>There's nothing left to discuss
call me autistic but I think homestuck had enough layers to still be talked about for years to come.

no excuses that it was shit for the latter third (or half) of it's run, but I think I could talk for hours. The problem is there's nowhere but here to talk about it that isn't insufferable.
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>>90331927
But then you get people talking about their fucking fetishes and some asshole uploading his uncanny valley porn crops.
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>>90302139
In hidnsight, Eridan may be the best villain Homestuck had. He could've been main villain material, with some reworking. Thinking about it:

- Has a close relationship with the trolls and, if you consider Vriska the protagonist of the comic, with the protagonist herself, being kind of a reflection as well
- Embodies all the problems with Alternian/Beforus culture and, unlike Condesce, actually showed it instead of just being implied by thid parties
- In a way, is even a shadow of John himself, starting from the way he looks
- Has ties with the Horrorterrors and with Jack as well
- Has reasons to be resentful of SBURB, trolls as a whole and humans
More importantly...
- Has a defined, well-rounded character that the readers actually know and understand and can actually hate. He's not some foggy "force of nature" concept or your average cartoon villain driven by greed.

Admitedly, his ties with the kids are weak, but change that and he could've probably fulfilled the role.
oh wwell
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>>90332102
we need to out the degenerates. classpect people can go too. if I see another byzantine blueprint picture talking about mages of doom based on two off-and lines I'm gonna flip.
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>>90332164
What about drawfags?
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>>90331927
>ITT
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>>90332164
Jokes on you these guys are what make the threads live.
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>>90332219
>only one drawfag
>Karkat/Nepeta stuff and Vriska is the dumb suffering manlet instead of Karkat
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>>90332242
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>>90310997
Yes it did. The SBAHJ camera.
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>>90307809
Calling things bait before it was popular.
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>>90310997
It foreshadow's Dirk's AR.
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Are you guys actually hyped for the epilogue?

I just expect the worst.
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>>90332311
Awesome, innit?
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>>90332831
Yeah, I like manlet Vriska more.
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>>90332164
OK, let's split into cliques and fling shit at each other, while screeching
>SHIPPERS GET OUT
>CLASSPECTS ARE SHIT
>YOUR FETISH IS TRASH
and see where it gets us.
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>>90333523
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>>90333880
I keep thinking of the hurt/comfort fanfic where John Egbert is foster parent for Vriska, who's rescued from a dogfighting arena run by Doc Scratch.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/527502?view_full_work=true

... aw damn, she illustrated the story but was using imageshack for the pictures, and imageshack shit the bed (just like dropbox is going to do soon).
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>>90331554

Now Feferi is an interesting character who I feel was criminally underused in the narrative. I understand she at the end of the story must be left dead because it is her philosophy that produces a useless culture of Trolls that is clearly evident by the Dancestor walkarounds.

Feferi is a character who is supposed to be the Disney Princess (tm) of the Troll Cast. Her no-kill count is possibly her most interesting aspect, as it was Eridan who was the one securing the food for her Lusus as you mentioned. Eridan to Feferi's dynamic is pretty much the Condesce's Indoctrination versus Feferi's own aspirations, a philosophical war waged in two different timelines that results in the same end for the species: the destruction of the Homeworld and ruination of their kind.

In a way, Feferi presumably cheated the system the Condesce made and used SGRUB to get the clean slate and rid everyone of the shitty world and presumably the Condesce in one swoop. She had no idea that SGRUB could do this, but judging by Doc Scratch's remarks of the Trolls he meddled with and Karkat's statements of the 'conspiracy' to get SGRUB going, Eridan was conspicuously involved. It's never outright stated he knew what the game did but the Game itself lines up to his goals of genocide and also solidifies Feferi as queen of the Trolls without having her ever have to fight (something he might know she wanted). However, once the effects of the game are in motion it is notably the point where Feferi cuts him off.

Feferi is shown in her few interactions with others to be very saccharine and also condescending. She's kind of like the 'nice' girl friend who is secretly a bitch. It's a shame she wasn't used more for people to really get that implication; she ended up being considered a 'sweet cinnamon roll' who didn't deserve to stay dead by the end of Act 7.
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>>90334159
I saw Feferi as the rich child that grew up priviledged and made plans for changing the world with no idea how the real world would react. She was an aquatic Marie Antoinette. When Marie said her famous line "let them eat cake," that wasn't arrogance that was mind-boggling ignorance -- she heard protesters cry they had no (coarse) bread, and she assumed they still had (sweet) bread aka brioche which gets translated as "cake" in English. To her, if someone in the royal palace complained they didn't have bread, she'd scold them for snubbing the other food on their table. She didn't know the people outside Paris didn't have other food.

Feferi would've been criminally ignorant as a regent. She would need a patient and ruthless vizier (which eridan could become) if she were to rule.
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>>90301997
Why do people hate Karkat? idgi
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>>90334342
Because he is shit. Duh.
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>>90334309
she never actually said that
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>>90334727
Huh. Okay, you want me to rewrite what I said?
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>>90334309

She does have that naivete played up pretty well but I still think there are some nastier undertones with her personality that come to light. It comes out pretty well with Feferi's interactions with Jade, though I fuzzily remember Feferi being similarly underhanded in her cattiness towards a few other people too.

Feferi's personality aside though, her death served a vehicle of freedom to the other trolls unbound by blood castes. I actually think this took away a good part of growing the Trolls could have had with establishing their new culture. Hell, meeting the Dancestors could have propped Karkat against Feferi with an ideological war on how the Trolls should be run (and actually give Karkat something to play with at the end of the whole damn thing).

Karkat's ancestor legacy being Troll Jesus to offer a third option for how to lead the Trolls just lines up to swoop in and break the dichotomy between Feferi and Meenah's philosophies and it's a legacy that never comes to fruition.

But I don't think writing a paragraph about that is worth the time; everyone here talks about Karkat and his laundry list of missed opportunities.
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>>90334803
Karkat shoulda been the meat in an heiress sandwich
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>>90334937
>talking about more interesting routes the story could have gone
>they should have just fucked lol

primitive please go
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>>90306341
I always wonder why so few people see the parallels between Eridan and Vriska.
They share a lot of traits: being complete creeps, an inflated sense of self, ancestor worship, delusions of grandeur, extremely selective empathy, pointless self-indulgent pity parties, histories of "justified" mass atrocities, pettiness, a belief that some are worth more than others, murdering their crushes, failing to understand how people work, and generally being kinda fucking stupid.

Maybe they're so rarely compared because the narrative doesn't treat them the same. Eridan's actions immediately blow up in his face and he ends up ostracized, called out on his bullshit, then finally cut in half -- the karma is swift and merciless. Meanwhile various narrative crutches (from contrived coincidences to outright retcons) fall from the sky to keep Vriska's romances, friendships and schemes mostly intact, all in order to make her as efficient a reader-trolling device as possible.

I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, so here's an actual question for whoever read this: do you think this contrast was deliberate or just a byproduct of bad writing?
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>>90328692
>iT's LiKe, AlRiGhT, cOmPuTeRs, RiGhT?
>WhAt ThE fUcK?
>mIrAcLeS iS wHaT.
>FUCK YOU.
>FUCK YOU FOR ME JUST READING THAT.
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>>90335056
>complete creeps, an inflated sense of self, delusions of grandeur, extremely selective empathy, pointless self-indulgent pity parties, histories of "justified" mass atrocities, pettiness, a belief that some are worth more than others, murdering their crushes, failing to understand how people work, and generally being kinda fucking stupid

Did you just describe Karkat and Equius as well?
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>>90315487
>>90315628
>>90315662
I think anon means this one.
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>>90335056

I think it was deliberate but not out of callousness at first. Eridan's difference from Vriska is where she was allowed victory he was given only defeat after defeat. The definitely were made to play off one another and it couldn't have been by accident.

But to be fair Vriska has been given a defeat too. Terezi had successfully orchestrated the situation to where Vriska lost her arm and eye to Doc Scratch. At the start it's clear that while Vriska was abhorrent she also was not immune to consequence. Granted the consequence was immediately retaliated in turn, but that's all nicely cycled in the Pyrope-Serket dance illustrated by Mindfang in her own journal. Vriska even had been originally killed out of the meteor thanks to [s] FLIP so that too lines up as consequence.

The difference is where the narrative decided to grant Vriska relevance after death, it snubbed Eridan in the same stroke. What's funny about that, though, is it again lines up with how their characters are constructed. Eridan isn't allowed to succeed so even in form of narrative presence he's forbidden to succeed in a return of substantial proportion (even as Erisolsprite). Vriska however succeeds to the point of ridiculousness which is punctuated by the cherry on top that is Remem8er.
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>>90335022
You know it's true
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>>90328135
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>>90332311
Where is the issue here. Loki did stop here but mods scared 'em off.
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>>90328706
but it's a qte
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Are you guys discussing characters from the comic?
Cease this outrage and start breedslut memeing at once.
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>>90335603
Breedslutting bout what? Not like Jade can get knocked up twice.
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>>90335603

No thanks. I'm having too much fun.

Shot in the dark but was anyone else disappointed that Eridan was sequestered away from the Lalondes? Eridan had exactly one conversation with Rose, but that conversation was liquid gold and inspired Eridan to want a wand to compete with Rose (and pretty much put him on that path towards fucking everyone over).

And as far as the Alphas are concerned Roxy always showed interest in the idea of the troll who dug magic and even had a neat scarf like hers. She even was using Ahab's Crosshairs which was Eridan's original weapon.
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>>90335198
Equius and Karkat aren't complete creeps. They have some big dreams but don't put them above other people's safety. They don't commit mass atrocities (not on purpose, I guess you could call Karkat giving the universe cancer pretty horrible), and they didn't kill their crushes.

>>90335317
I think the consequence of Vriska losing her arm and eye could have been meaningful if she didn't get both back after god tiering. If anything, it was already letting the reader know consequences faced by Vriska wouldn't matter (see [S] Flip, even before the retcon it meant very little since she became the most important dead character in the story).

Otherwise yeah I think you articulated this better than I could. Have the only Eridan I could find in my HS folder.
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>>90335844

Hey thanks, I'm collecting Eridans right now and I don't have this one.

You are right that Vriska's consequences are pretty much reversed in the story too, that was something I forgot to bring up so thank you for that. Overall the similarities between the two are really fascinating but so few people do see it. It's cool there's someone else here to talk to that did.
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>>90335710
She can try dammit!
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kanaya coming back to life was a mistake
the kids getting sperated was a mistake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFdUWxrzg5o

Why was the better than the actual ending, /co/?
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>>90336473
This is true. Rose went to shit the moment she started going AWOL. Being in the loop kept each character grounded and not just an unfunny walking espousal of exposition and out of place drama.
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>>90336424
>a heavily pregnant and furious jade riding you, screaming for you to do it again
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>>90336509
Nice
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>>90335056
>Maybe they're so rarely compared because the narrative doesn't treat them the same.
Hit the nail on the head, I think. They also differ in that Eridan is mostly based around his failing love life and Vriska is more self-indulgent - Nobody loves me vs I love me.

>do you think this contrast was deliberate or just a byproduct of bad writing?
The ancestor rivalry makes me think deliberate.
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>>90303400
>posting her and Equius in a romantic

Look at this pleb not knowing that moirallegiance is still considered romantic by troll standards. It has been SEVEN FUCKING YEARS anon. Get your dumb shit together.
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>>90335844
>Equius and Karkat aren't complete creeps.
Equius is described as a creep. Karkat creeped on Terezi in Act 6 and even joins in Vriska and Kanaya's private chat on the lilypad.
>people's safety for their dreams
Equius let Gamzee murder him and Nepeta.
Karkat let Gamzee fuck Terezi and even abuse her while he did nothing.
>mass-murder
Karkat killed trollkind, because he was upset at Sollux and activated his virus.
And blames himself for creating Bec Noir for some reason.

Yeah, I am just trying to find points why Hussie shits on Karkat so much. Oh, and he stopped giving a shit about his dead friends when he became butt-buddies with Dave. At least there is some potential of him getting angry/turning emo, because Jade, John and Dirk are stealing Dave's attention.
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>>90337146
Did they retcon him going off to see his dead friends in the dream bubbles?
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>>90337231
Yes. He treats Eridan, Equius and Nepeta as jokes. And we see him hanging out with Dave all the time.
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>>90336984
I think you got that a little backwards. Eridan had zero issues with himself and blamed others for not liking him. Vriska on the other hand had all kinds of identity issues.
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>>90337609
I meant in terms of how they're portrayed, although I worded it like an idiot - Eridan's interactions and dealings mostly revolve around his relationship shit whereas Vriska's are normally Vriska doing whatever she wants with little regard for anyone else's opinion.

>Vriska on the other hand had all kinds of identity issues.
I haven't read HS in fucking ages, but I don't remember Vriska having too many hangups past Spidermom, Tavros if you wanna call that an issue and possibly something to do with not liking troll culture. What am I forgetting?
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>>90337953
She based her whole personality around Mindfang and then copied Meenah to be accepted by her.
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>>90337146
>Karkat let Gamzee abuse Terezi
>while he did nothing
Not true, Karkat did a shitty anime run and drowned in Kool-Aid.
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>>90338047
Anon. He knew about Gamzee hatefucking Terezi and only did his anime run when he saw her getting physically abused.
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>>90338203
Yes? That's what I said.
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>>90303427
You can
With a club
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>>90337953
She hides in the identities of others. First she tries to emulate Mindfang, because she needs to survive Spidermom.

Then, when that comes crashing down in the revenge cycle and she loses everyone close to her, she tries to be a hero, because hey, everyone loves a hero. Except she grew up emulating a sociopath and doesn't even know what a hero is, so she bungles it.

Then, talking to John she learns about humans, and decides she wants to be one. Then she dies and goes back to the hero plan.

Then when John tells her what he thinks of her, and most of the other ghosts leave her, she finally manages to shake Mindfang. Except woops, there's a replacement strong, confident figure right there in Meenah. Before you know it Vriska is worse then ever, because Meenah is right there to emulate every little thing, and form a monster of a codependency.
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>>90338341
>>90338034
So do we ever see the "real" Vriska?
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>>90338958
Yes. The one who starts crying for being called fat and typing in capslock.
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homestuck turns women into lesbians
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>>90339122
What about the prospit girls
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>no one realized that Karkat based his personality around romcoms
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>>90338958
Hard to tell. She kept backsliding so we never got an endpoint to compare her actions with.
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>>90330596
>>90330789
I still associate that tacky, terrible, sampled electric guitar with Vriska. Just seems appropriate. The backbone of Megalovania always sounded like a fly having a seizure to me. It's too comical to impress.
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>>90339722
Isn't that sample from EarthBound anyway?
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>>90330616
someone remembers my old art, heh
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>>90340616
F8CK
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>>90327856
No. It was him. I have nothing to lose and would drop everything to kill Hussie on the spot if I ever came across him in person. Andrew Hussie ruined my life.
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>>90334159
Now I think a Feferi that grew up on Alternia would be different just like Meenah was different from the Condence, but yeah, basically. If only for her fascinating antagonism with Jade, I think you could cut out like, I dunno, a bunch of Vriska or some Terezi sniffing her ass scenes and work some Feferi stuff into the story.

Like every troll she isn't perfect, but unlike a lot of the trolls there's enough about her that she's still /interesting/. In fact I think she's the only one I want to see more of.
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>>90336640
Honestly John should've learned this from Murderstuck: Karkat focusing on winning the game over team mental health was his biggest weakness and as leader his JOB ONE was to keep everyone sane.

The next post-murderstuck log should've been John dragging the betas into a group chat for a pow wow, via the Breeze if necessary.
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>>90336509
>fraymotif DDR
Ok I might have to check this thing out finally
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>>90336509
>Condy doesn't die to a single stab wound
already 10 times better
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>>90341854
Jade being IMMEDIATELY enslaved again is lame, narritavely that has power once and god we've used mind control fucking UP but Jane getting one brief moment of cool was nice.

Also Hussie on a horse was pretty okay I guess.
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>>90341935
Condy not even trying to mind control her would be even worse
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Terezi is more of a disappointment than Karkat.

Prove me wrong.
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>>90301997
Everyone but bowman
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>>90316310
>Self Intangibility
>Touch Intangibility
Intangible is a little strong for void, if it's about obscuring the known like it says I'm pretty sure it would be inability to be felt but not inability to be touched
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>3 years on the meteor
>dave basically made only 5 sbahj comics
>>
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>>90342530
Sbahj is toxic masculinity
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>>90336509
>Karkat not doing anything
>again

Ave, true to Huss.
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>>90336509
Because there was actual effort involved
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>>90342886
So is fucking jade but he does that regularly enough
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>>90336509
>not addressing what made the canon ending bad
>it's not even an ending
>bringing the same villain back again
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I can't believe I missed an entire Homestuck thread

also IT'S MARCH
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>>90343577
There are some interesting ideas but yeah.

I like the ddr freymotifs and Jane getting her moment but the Condence being the big bad so Lord English doesn't have to fight is weak, rebrainwashing Jade is a cop out (nice animation at least), and the central problem of not having enough for the eight kids ALONE to do still rears its head.

Plus vriska still saves the fucking day, even if it is by accident and a magnificent horse.
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>>90344708
I feel like the point of this is to address all of the plot holes, and the Condesce dying to such a minor wound is a pretty big one.

And clearly this fan adventure is still ongoing. The guy who posted it was wrong to call it an ending.
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>>90336902

oh HEY cool, I only ever saw the Terezi & Eridan ones.
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wwell wwhat do wwe havve here
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>>90301997
Andrew Hussie
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>>90343367
You mean Karkat
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>>90344829
True! and the animation is p good if it shows the limits of fighting in that mode. I hope Jake gets to fucking fight Lord English and John gets to fucking do anything.

Ah well, best of luck to him. That horse pose made me smile.
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>>90346029
*fat
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>>90332147
Eridan always worked better as a secondary antagonist. Hussie killed him off before he got to do anything really important though. Eridan should have gone on to do more stuff with his white magic/science, expositioned the horrorterrors, or at least framed them as an interesting part of the story instead of what we got, and explored more about the Prince of Hope concept. The latter was implied to be important, with his planet, angels, and all, but it kind of went nowhere. It would have been interesting if it was actually Eridan killing the horrorterrors on a rampage, or related to them in some way.

In the end he should have been killed by the real antagonist, like Jack, or maybe even Lord English. Being killed off by the kids would have also worked. It felt like Eridan's buildup went nowhere, which was disappointing, and it made Kanaya into the really unlikable, uninteresting rainbow drinker. I kind of enjoyed her snarky attitude toward Rose, and her maternal nature. When that was stripped away, her character lost all interesting qualities. Her entire characterization was that she was a badass, in a relationship with Rose, and also badass.

The comic sort of went downhill from there, but that's another thing.
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>>90339048
Did that ever happen?
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>>90346424
Man thank you, whenever I say Kanaya got dull when she became a vampire I get called shipper trash.
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>>90346424
Like I've said before; Eridan being a villain was undermined entirely by the fact that none of what he did actually ended up being important. Kanaya came back to life, learned nothing and the Matriorb was eventually restored via Roxy's Mary Sue powers and Sollux and Feferi ended up being entirely irrelevant, regardless of being dead, half-dead or alive.

I don't understand how Hussie can write events and conciously decide that they don't stick and mean nothing down the line. Why even waste our time with this shit?
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>>90346767
Being Hussie is suffering
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>>90347771
no see hussie is actually a genius because like
the character Mom
who is rose's mom
is also like the mother of the troll race
it's like poetry
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>>90347771
That's really what happened in the latter half of the comic that made me stop reading. Vriska was killed off and brought back. A bunch of other characters were killed off and brought back. New characters were introduced, taking the limelight away from older, more developed characters. To add insult to injury, most of the characters who were brought back did nothing of interest, and were sort of there.

I kind of feel Hussie just got lost in the world/story he was writing at some point with all the fan feedback. It was fun and entertaining when he was just writing about some characters dicking around with their friends, and it was his thoughts going directly to the content. When he started juggling a billion different story threads, he just sort of lost it. I think that's really what happened with Eridan. There might have been some plans to develop him as a character, but Hussie decided to cull a few plotlines, and Eridan ended up on the chopping block.

My 2 cents
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>>90347922
No it isn't. He wasn't suffering through any of this. It was only the readers. He can go fuck himself with a rusty chainsaw
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>>90331017
I fell asleep, but I meant to ask if you have a tumblr or something with these?
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>>90346029
What was it?
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Does Caliborn just feel like a crappier Eridan to anyone else? They're both huge chauvinist douches but Caliborn is so obnoxious about it that it becomes nauseating.
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>>90349649
they are both great, yeah
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>>90348333

> There might have been some plans to develop him as a character.

I personally doubt it. To quote Hussie: "There are major characters, and there are minor ones. If you're waiting for me to fire up NEPETAQUEST 2011, don't hold your breath."

I personally think Hussie really just liked the Zodiac motif, but didn't want fully develop 12 Trolls. And Murderstuck gave him a way to do away with them. Which was probably for the best in all honesty.

I think that right from their conception Eridan, Nepeta, Feferi, and Equius were all intended as canon fodder. Not so sure about Tavros and Sollux though.

I do agree with the whole "Hussie got lost in his story" thing.
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>>90348588
12 Jades fucking Dave
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>>90349649

That's no way to talk about Act 6's best character.

I do agree their are similarities though.
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>>90350633
And a partridge in a pear tree?
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>>90350741
FIVE FUCKASSES
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>>90350817
FOUR YEAR-LONG HIATUSES
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>>90350827
Three different dev teams!
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>>90350861
TOO MANY UNSATISFYING CHARACTER CONCLUSIONS
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>>90350932
>>90350861
>>90350827
>>90350817
>>90350741
>>90350633

Fucking beautiful.
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>>90350932
AND HIVESWAP DELAYED INDEFINITELY
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>>90351017
"A couple more weeks"
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>>90351232
"I'm using a birth control Dave don't worry"

"Davepeta is alive"

"Calliope is a good character"

"Cohen understands how to write an engaging story"

See how lies destroy us?
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