Why does everyone hate this episode. Did it strike too close to home?

Zuke Lapidot garbage.

>>90201795
Because Ronaldo was right.

>>90202188
How

nothing happened, it was boring

>>90202227
Because he is right. Gems are nothing but monster attracting beasts that care not for humanity, only for the will of a fat, pink, bitch.

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zuke effectively. Ronaldo made me cringe too much, like everything he did was either too much of a dick or too much of a weeb and not in the good way. And that fucking shit with the rock people. This episode was garbage man, cant we give ronalado a chance to be a decent person

>>90202517
>And that fucking shit with the rock people.
Its a joke

Zuke, as usual. Every episode with Zuke involved is terrible.

>>90202517
>And that fucking shit with the rock people.

Anon! That's racist!

>>90201795
THEY HATE MEN!?

There wasn't a lot of action and it was just Ronaldo complaining. If anything, it made me dislike his character.

>>90202707
what were lapis and peridot up to i missed that

Ronaldo is like Onion. He's a walking gag who's far less entertaining when they try to focus on him as a character.

>>90202880
Hold on a second there pal. Don't talk about my mans Onion like that. That boy's got layers.

>>90201795
It was fine, I found some bits funny and Steven finally grew a spine more or less

it was just another meh episode inbetween the "Waiting for the Diamonds to show up"

Tiger has to be the last filler no way they don't do HW invasion in less than five episodes

>>90201795
>Did it strike too close to home
I'm starting to think people around here don't actually know what that means.

>>90202975
This post strikes too close to home

It's just Ronaldo being an annoying neckbeard weeb as usual. He didn't develop as a character at all and nothing significant really happened.

Basically, more townie filler trash.

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>>90202660

It aint racist if were talking about rocks.

>>90203307
>but cousin, she's not dead. She's inside of Steven.

>>90203339
>>90201795
OH CRAP!! I just realized that Rose turning into STeven is a metaphor for transgender surgery.
Quite literally turning the vagina and or penis inside out to function as the other gender's genitalia.
>i'm gonna go throw up now.

>>90203307
did greg marry rose or was steven a bastard

>>90203384
he never married her so yes

>>90201795
Because they ran the same gags they always run when Ronaldo appears
Except this was an entire episode of it. Some were good but it's not enough to carry an episode

>>90203376
I'm pretty sure Steven is pretty clear that he's not Rose.

It'd be like saying Korra is just Aang with his dick cut off.

this bait is delicious

I'M
A
CRYSTAL GEM
TOO

>>90202391

*cough*

This post, so much.

>>90203307

>dead wife happy

I read that as "dad wife happy".

Like some kinda jab at SJW logic.

>>90201795

Because everyone thought it was gonna be some huge, gloves off, SJW vs. /pol/tard smackdown based on the preview, and it ended up just being a regular boring filler episode.

>>90202682
Why is /co/ this easy to trigger?

>>90204404

Implying people haven't caught on that the show is literally a lesbian sexual dance off, SJW, Tumblr, far left, 1,000,000 different gendered wet dream train of retardedness that hates all things men.

>>90205563
Then why is that the show is very clear that if Steven were just raised by his lesbian moms he'd be a total basket case? His most healthy relationship is with his straight white male, small business owner, non college educated father.

>>90202142
More specifically Betas officially marks the spot where Zuke's depictions of Lapis and Peridot so thoroughly break with the Crewniverse's depictions that they border on genuine OOC. Unfortunately the fandom eats that shit up, so they take Zuke's depictions as the originals.

Of course now whenever the rest of the crew writes them they seem far more weird and cynical and mean spirited.

>>90205563
You are being triggered over a cartoon.

>>90201795
How could everyone hate it? It only came out like 6 hours ago.

>>90201795
Because they advertised the episode with a picture of Bloodstone, had they never done that, while less would tune into the episode, it'd be far less hated.

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>>90201795
For those of you are confused, save yourself 11 minutes and watch this summary that essentially provides the full experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUJ8BbHkg6U

I don't get why everyone is so negative about this show. I like to sit down and just watch.

>>90206370
Negativity is purely fandom based, the more you're involved the more it effects you.

>>90206370

Too much filler, too much downtime, and way, way too much moping from various characters, enemies or otherwise.

Someone is always crying or moaning about some inner turmoil they haven't been able to get over in the last 500 years until the pudge shouts some human platitudes at them and they suddenly get it.

I like(d) the show, but it's taking too long to land the plane at this point. Remember George's pitch about a show where "nothing happens"? Turns out it wasn't Seinfeld, it was Steven Universe.

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>>90206306
Jesus Christ that was fucking cringe inducing.

>>90202391
>fat
nigga the only thing fat about her is her ass and tits

>>90206306
Yo this episode fucking sucked.

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>>90206306
Atleast Zuke is gone.

Silver linings.

I haven't watched the show a since the Pearl and Mystery Girl episode which I hated and then decided to drop the show permanently after ZukeGate because the drama and trying to excuse stupid writing was so dumb that I gave up on it because at this point there was only so much stupid I could handle. The pacing was bad, the animation continued to look bad and I just had a gut feeling this will all turn out like Breezy again and I decided to end it before it got that bad.

Was I being unfair to the show and should give it another chance or did I make the right move?

>>90206306

Holy shit. All that was missing was Sonic the Hedgehog giving a PSA at the end about treating people with respect.

>>90206818

I'd say you made the right move considering the show is taking forever to get to any kind of a point.

>>90201795
It was bad all around, the concept was decent but they did absolutely nothing with it.
They EASILY could've just had Ronaldo pester Steven so much he actually takes him somewhere, and then Steven has to make up for himself and protect Ronaldo for a bit. Then they make the peace pact and steven grows from this encounter, rather than just putting in MORE winks at the fans.
Dunno why this episode even came on, honestly. Ronaldo doesn't hate the gems anymore but we saw that already with his last episode.

i agree the episode was kind of terrible but remember this is still a kids show there's still basic morals that need to be highlighted in some episodes. i'm sure the diamonds will come down to earth soon enough and all sorts of lore shit will happen. don't give up yet

that being said, if tiger philanthropist is shit im quitting the show forever

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>>90206818
If this episode is any indication, you made the right move.

Good Job, Anon.

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>>90201795
can i get an edit of this with a ny jets logo

Ronaldo episodes are supposed to be poking fun at the audience. I feel like they were trying to poke fun at Gemsonas and bossy people on the internet.

>>90201795

Everyone has second-hand embarassment because we all know someone like this.

Or ARE someone like this.

everything leading up to the episode to the episode itself was bad

>>90206818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APofVcNyxHg&t=4s

Last steven bomb was great minus one filler episode. I desipised that espiside to and since zuke is fired or quit or w.e, we will only have to deal with 3-4 more shttty episodes.

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>>90206861
>>90206940
Damn, I guess the space arc wasn't great either?
I don't feel joy in seeing things I liked go bad.

>>90207029
Without spoiling can you tell me what the arc does right? Maybe I'll just skip to that if it sounds good.

>>90204404
Because /co/ is just /pol/ but with less swastikas. This place is still very much a cishet boys club, despite the efforts to change it for the better

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>>90207093
kys my man

>>90207081
I felt the pacing was good (save for that filler) and gave an excellent in depth look at the villains motives and why the are villains. I am poor at explaining things but I enjoyed the world building and new characters they introduced in this arc.

They do a great job capturing the essence of an other wordy demi god I would say.

god this show is just getting worse

>>90207093
The dick makes it cuter

They tried to do cringe humour but it didn't feel real at all, making it not cringe just awkward in all the wrong ways. Especially when he was fucking around with the sword. It was just all off.

Also the political message was massively unsubtle and hamfisted.

Ronaldo is an ass and an oaf but part of his schtick is that his whacky conspiracy theories aren't entirely wrong. That's funny and what makes him work within the setting. But instead they grew over reliant on using Ronaldo as a stupid Person-I-Don't-Like-of-the-Week stand in. Somebody who can say the mean things to get the filler moving and to provide drama. Though it's unsurprising somebody like Zuke doesn't even attempt to accurately portray the character she is paid to write for personal agenda. Glad she's gone.

>An episode where Ronaldo is constantly lampooned for taking blogging too seriously
>Written by fucking Zuke of all people

>Steven arbitrarily deciding that rock person was offensive despite the fact it has even been said before just so they have some kind of slur analogy

>>90206861
It only seems that way because we have to wait a whole week for an 11 minute episode that may or may not be good. Other shows tend to premiere with two of those, meaning they have about 50% less chance of disappointment. If tonight we got Rocknaldo plus Tiger Philanthropist, chances are better we wouldn't feel fucking cheated. CN is fucking over SU premieres in more ways than one.

>>90207180
Rondalo is supposed to be a stand in for the grown up audience.

>>90207093
Seeing what you did there, anon.

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>>90207214
>the grown up audience.

>>90207157
Alright anon, I'll check it out later. Thanks.
I really hope you're right about the show getting good again.
>>90207204
But it's not just a couple of filler episodes, it's a whole stream of mediocre episodes before you get a good one. This has always been the case but it feels the not lore episodes are getting worse and worse because now it feels they're screwing with the characters development.

>>90207240
us, tumblr, reddit

those man children at conventions that ask the stupid questions at the panels.

Connie is clearly meant to represent the "intended" audience of children and pre teens.

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>people actually thought there would be a new gem

>>90207214
Yes. I'm unsure how that was relevant to the point though.

>>90207299
Bit cheating when they post an actual picture of a gemstone like
> 'Oh who is this? See tomorrow ;)'

Yeah it's pretty obvious when it's lined up with a Ronaldo episode, doesnt stop it from being a massive dick move and false advertising

>>90207180
>Steven arbitrarily deciding that rock person was offensive despite the fact it has even been said before just so they have some kind of slur analogy
Actually, of all the shit in this episode, I was okay with that.

It is kinda fitting. It's like the word nigger or faggot.
If you're one of them, you feel fine using it colloquially, but if someone is standing on a soapbox yelling "FUCK NIGGERS" or "FUCK FAGGOTS" then you find it offensive.

Tell me you faggots haven't heard random people use shitty memes wrongly and felt like punching them in the face.
Same basic idea.

>>90206818
What was Zukegate?

>>90201795
/co/mblr hates humor.

Why do they keep making townie episodes. Surely the community has been shitting on the creators for it. Have they ever responded? They are literally killing the series.

>>90207444
>humor.

>>90202880
At least Onion has the redeeming possibility of being the most useful human when the final battle/invasion/climax/whatever happens. If he wrecks homeworld gems for like 15 seconds of animation I will be satisfied.

>>90206370
Most of the harshness as opposed to level-headed criticism is internet tribal bullshit, the show itself is irrelevant.

>>90207458
They respond in a backhanded manner

Either it's through unfunny tweets or unfunny jokes in the show

Crewniverse cannot take criticism

>>90205563
THEY HATE MEN?

>>90207404
Apparently, Zuke so desperately wanted to make her ship cannon that she went against what all the other storyboarders were doing to make it happen, even if it meant making the interaction rushed and badly written.

>>90207569
When and where was this revealed?

>>90207381
No. It really isn't.

As faggot the offence comes from
1. The intent to offend
2. The historical backing to a word
Note that second bit.

People on 4chan either are using the term faggot affectionately or are trying to be edgy with it. It's inoffencive. It carries as much weight as calling me a poopybuttface at worst.

However a dude raving in the street about burning the faggots then they're invoking all the historical backing, imagery and dehumanisation that comes with it. Faggot has been used to dehumanise and justify violence in the past and that's what they are trying to do. That's why it's offensive. If the same homophobic dude called me a poopybuttface it wouldn't carry the same weight because it isn't have that.

Now imagine if he wasn't even calling me a poopybuttface but an entirely new thing that has never been used as an insult before. Not only that but it doesn't even have the intent to offend behind it. Say he called me a homophile or a man romancer. Why would that suddenly be offensive?

Hrm... You know what was really needed? Renaldo, I mean Bloodstone, training and not taking shit seriously. What we see is an entire week where everyone tells him "lol, you'll get responsabilities after we train you" and "lol, we'll train you later" over and over. The episode mostly just shows him growing increasingly frustrated as nobody will start him off. Which kinda doesn't make him wrong. Connie got started as soon as she said she wanted to fight, and she's as much of a weeaboo dork as Ren- Bloodstone. Literally what makes them so different? Pretty sure Connie would have quickly turned into an asshat too if she had spent a week waiting for her training to begin.

>>90207484
I think the important thing about Onion is that in order for him to work he needs to be weird and mysterious in a way that doesn't let you quite decide whether he's just an odd little boy, or some fucked up evil supernatural being. So if wrecks any Homeworld gems he'd either need to do it off-screen and we only see the aftermath and have no idea how he accomplished it, or possibly he could Home Alone them with a crazy trap that really shouldn't work but does.

>>90207594
that sounds horrible

>>90207579
She admitted it in her tumblr, though there were clues about it a couple months prior as she deleted everything SU related in it and someone found some very angry and ranty posts from another account that sounded very much like Zuke.

>>90207627
anyone got an image that gathers all this around? I need to use this to mock someone

>>90207484
>implying that honor won't be saved for Greg Murdercock

>>90207270
Last bomb had a few good ones, and the bomb before it was one of the best, and was padded by more great episodes like Centipeetle's return. I think if you were to watch all the season 4 episodes from the beginning to end once it's done, this shitstream would feel less bad in the long run. Not good, but not as terrible.

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>>90206932
>i agree the episode was kind of terrible but remember this is still a kids show there's still basic morals that need to be highlighted in some episodes

That is bullshit for several reasons. This isn't really a show targeted for kids, and even if it was that doesn't mean it's alright for it to be bad. Kids deserve way better then that. Especially from a show that supposedly takes pride in the fact that it goes beyond an average kids show sometimes.

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>>90206306
sounds like a someone with an axe to grind

I think it hurts for both sides. It defends SJW too much to the point of cringe. The whole we never do anything wrong ever and only attacked by trolls. Then when Rolando dose anything it's either too accurate or inaccurate but either way the entire ep made me cringe.

>>90207610
>Onion is actually a snerson
There Ronaldo redeemed too now.

>>90207569
>she went against what all the other storyboarders were doing to
To be fair, the storyboarders do that to themselves
It's clear that the crew no longer coordinates or communicate with each other, if they ever did.

>>90207744
Reminds me of why Adventure Time went to shit. PB and Finn's characterization goes all over the place and has for a while. Nobody cares about consistency, they just write the characters the way they personally see them.

>>90207692
It's ironic that SU is now full of kid pandering morality lessons considering that John K hates that shit and he was an early proponent of Sugar's work.

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>>90207646
I can't find her officially admitting doing this post but this pic had the sighs before the storm.

If you go to tumblr and post Lauren Zuke you'll get a bunch of reactions of people attacking her or defending her.

Not arguing whether or not it was badly written and if it's professional to put your own weird personal gain over the general writing of the show mind you, oh no, just about the ships themselves.

>>90207788
>considering that John K hates that shit and he was an early proponent of Sugar's work.
John fucked Rebecca?
Ew
Was she a slumpbuster or something?

>>90207594
cuz ronnie isn't heroic minced

>>90207744
>To be fair, the storyboarders do that to themselves
What other storyboarders do that? Outside of Zuke with some select characters, they've all been largely consistent.

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>>90207788
Any animator or story writer worth their salt will tell you one simple rule: never talk down to your audience. Fucking Walt Disney had stated that repeatedly, because there's nothing a kid hates more then to be treated like one.

>>90202880
Except Onion isn't very entertaining even in small doses, and Ronaldo is better at holding up episodes than him.

>people are saying that this episode was the crewniverse(steven) telling the fans(Ronaldo) to fuck off with telling them what to do or whatever

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>>90206658
>Tfw your birth stone is bloodstone

>>90206306
Fraid this episode is a bit too subtle for me

>>90207791
I'd also like to add is the part that disgust me the most is in both her alt account and in her apology post she uses the excuse that she's doing it to "further homosexual relationships".

But Peridot already had more development with Amethyst. She could've easily made them the ones with the relationship and it'd make a little bit more sense yet decided to go against it because it wasn't the one she wanted.

But she claims she did it for the gays.

>>90207788
SU isn't exactly doing cheesy "Steven sez" types of after-school special shit.

>>90207851
My feelings are flipped on that

>>90201795
it was mediocre.
the only thing i really liked was how ronaldo kicked steven out of his own house with reverse psychology and pretended he was loved and accepted by the crystal gems IMMEDIATELY when steven reenters the house.

>>90204178
you need to lurk more before posting

>>90207865
Classic crewniverse

They know best, with their townie episodes and Lars/Sadie episodes

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>>90207876
>Finally bloodstone is maybe getting something in the show
>It's fucking Ronaldo, there isnt even an actual bloodstone

I mean I aleady knew it'd be shit because it's Ronaldo but still hurts man, still hurts.

I thought it was going to be a super preachy episode about racism but then it kind of just derailed into Ronaldo being an annoying dick I guess?

I'm not sure if there was supposed to be some kind of message

I was honestly disillusioned with them highlighting how Ronaldo see himself as lonely and being lonely as his cross to bear. It felt like a jab at the kind of demographic that may be privileged in being white, male, etc, but also socially inept, as if to invalidate their experiences by implying that that isn't a real or serious problem for those people. Didn't seem so loving and tolerant or whatever they said

>>90207851
>Except Onion isn't very entertaining even in small doses

wrong

>>90207983
The crew hates Ronaldo

Steven doesn't even like Ronaldo. He wrecked Ronaldo's relationship and didn't even apologize for it

>>90207695
>XJ9 looking
Isnt that a good thing?

Do you think we'll get an episode where Ronaldo tries to make a girl kill herself because she drew rock people all wrong?

>>90208017
Yes, I've seen people talking about that a lot since a couple days ago. And I agree, that was pretty dick. I also don't like that it was apparently settled offscreen.

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>>90208048
anon..

>>90207879
She did what was best for business. Bean-flicking business.

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>>90207951
Isn't actual bloodstone just another jasper?

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>>90201795
>zuke
>non binary
can't fucking escape this dumb bullshit.

>>90208133
Bloodstone is a type of Jasper, so she'd be big and buff yeah

>>90208088
You're right anon, that's going to far I'm sorry.

What about an episode where Ronaldo get's hired to be a writer for Koala Princess but gets fired when everyone realizes he doesn't really know how to write good plots and was only abusing his powers to make specific characters be together for his own personal shipping?

>>90202935
You underestimate Sucrose's ability to stall world building to insane degrees anon. We're gonna have to wait another century before HW finally invades, at least according to the scrolls.

>>90207983
They made that clear in Full Disclosure. It's not a surprise.
>>90208017
Matty boy loves Ronaldo, he's his favorite character. Probably why he's even still in the show.

>>90201795
Because Memedot and Memepiss are literally playing with toilet water like retarded fucking children. Fuck you OP and fuck Zuke

Is Zuke still on suicide watch?

>>90203699
>I'm pretty sure Steven is pretty clear that he's not Rose.
Didn't Steven once ask (to himself of course, since he doesn't ask questions to anyone other than himself) if he was his Mom?

>>90208192
>They made that clear in Full Disclosure. It's not a surprise.
I guess then it seemed more silly and sort of "oh, that Ronaldo!" because it was more about him being a conspiracy theorist, which is not such a common thing irl, but here it seemed more general. I guess "cross to bear" wasn't such a good choice of words.

>>90203307
Jesus Christ, Marie

>>90203307
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FRIKKING BARN?

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>>90202517
That and it really regressed Steven to full retard. Nothing stop them from convincing him to stay at his home and be a CG. Nothing stop Steven from actually trying to train him properly he was there for a week. Hell it was just way to hamfisted. Like they knew the story they wanted to tell but no idea how to tell it.

>>90208478
Hard to believe the people who make this show are professionals

Well, mostly professionals

HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN TRASFORMED INTO SOME MONSTER BY SOME ARTIFACT? NO STEVEN HAD TO BE BITCH AGAIN AND TALK OUT HIS PROBLEMS. IT HAS BEEN 20 FUCKING EPISODE SINCE THEY FOUGHT ANYONE!

>>90208478
You are getting way too good at inventing things to be mad at.

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>>90201795
People don't like it
I LOVED IT

>>90208521
Fighting is wrong, anon

Fighting is almost as bad as bullying!

>>90207580
Well if someone was handing out pamphlets that say
"Don't trust those faggots. Their faggotry is evil and they should be punished!"

You'd be likes "stop spreading misinformation, and also stop calling us faggots, please"

>>90208478
what's priceless is this makes Ronaldo's accusation about Connie 100% right because Steven and Pearl happily trained her as well as let her be a part of the group. Hell Steven went gym crazy and tough love in season 1 just watching one fusion and wanted the people in his life to beef up. Ronaldo though? Just leaves him lying around the house like a cat and tries nothing in actually educating him or giving him real training.

>>90208524
Far from mad. More like analyzing why I'm growing apathetic to this show.

>>90208574
My friend Cool Cat says Bullies are bad and don't have any friends.

>>90208572
how

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>>90206446
I do agree on that point
Tell your fuckig story allready right less beach city more space travel
(I took like 100 screan shots of the episode non the less)

>>90206699
Apparently tumblr didn't get that memo

Me https://discord.gg/SGWBMZh

>>90206446
at least for now we're not stuck in some horribly long hiatus

>>90208586
You missed what I was saying. The entire point is that rock people is not like the word faggot at all for the reasons said above.

If he was handing out pamphlets saying "Trust not the man romancer! Burden yourself not with the man-liker!" I'd like him to stop saying what he's saying but it wouldn't make the term man romancer or man-liker or whatever not-quite-accurate term was used offensive. That would be silly.

>>90208698
>at least for now we're not stuck in some horribly long hiatus

Considering there's only one other episode coming out next week and nothing else has been revealed beyond that, I'm expecting another hiatus up until the summer.

>>90202935
>no way they don't do HW invasion in less than five episodes
What, you forgot about the cluster arc already?

>>90206699
>nigga the only thing fat about her is her ass and tits
And arms, and face, and waist...

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When do the sneks show up?

>>90208478
This was driving me nuts too,. If this was early season 1 everything would have made more sense but we are up to season 4 and nothing in how they treated Ronaldo made any sense. I thought the episode was going to trail into Ronaldo being a huge quitter when things got hard but it went the other direction and just made Steven and the Gems seem like they had no idea how to talk to humans anymore, let alone train them.

>>90208678
>kicks people for joining
I can't wait to see you banned from your homelands

>>90208678
what the fuck

>>90201795
>Why does everyone hate this episode.
It's from SU. All the episodes are bad and should be hated.

>>90207580
Here's a (you) for making an excellent point

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>>90208640
•It made fun of Tumblr people
• made fun of me
• all the gems in one episode
• I love my Fri husband
• bloodstone
• rock people =racism
• Steven put someone in there place
• good reaction shots
Could do more good points

>>90208733
lies

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>>90208588
Hey the word Girlfrend was finally brought up!!!
Are Steven and Connie together or ever going to be???
I say otp ;P

This is a weird one. I don't understand why everyone is flipping their shit.

The only thing I really didnt like was "they hate men" just cause it is so on the nose that it is jarring. Passed that, it just seemed like another Ronaldo is a retard episode, and for a Ronaldo is a retard episode it was actually kind of decent. It was funny in 1-2 separate occasions. That makes it better than some other Ronaldo episodes.

Its not worth rewatching, but it was harmless.

>>90208816
On his birthday he asked what is he gonna be when Connie is President. "What, am I gonna be first boy?" This faggots already thinking about marriage.

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>>90208823
I never got that term it was harmless

Other then that baned Pokemon episode that made all them kids sick how can a episode be harmful?

>>90207879
Fuck all of that, Steven Universe has a full blown, undeniable lesbian relationship and obvious lesbian feelings between Pearl and Rose. Her pushing Lapidot wasn't trying to insert more "representation", there was already plenty. She just wanted her personal ship to be canon and used that as an excuse.

>>90208816
>Hey the word Girlfrend was finally brought up!!!
Try 5th time.
Are Steven and Connie together or ever going to be???
At his brthday party Steven mused that if he never ages past a kid what would that make him when Connie was president "first boy?" Also Connie went full sword lancer training because she wanted to be Steven's protector on Pearl's level with Rose. This is high school sweet heart levels love, they don't even need to say it, they just know.

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>>90208854

>>90208823
>Ronaldo is a retard episode

More like everyone is a retard episode

>>90208816
>Hey the word Girlfrend was finally brought up!!!
You miss the episode where Steven met her parents?
Or the snow in?
Or the hospital crisis?
Or his Birthday party?
Or Sword training?

And I'm sure I missed a few

>>90208863
As in it is not mentally offensive, nor rewarding in anyway. Its milktoast. A gentle breeze of nothing.

Basically, I have no negative or positive feelings about it, other than the aforementioned line, and ill throw in "its offensive" in there as well as it does come out of nowhere.

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Does anyone find this show's attempts at humor to be really stilted and awkward? It's not like I've never laughed at the show but in all honesty comedy isn't a strong point for the writers.

>>90208187
>>>90202935
>You underestimate Sucrose's ability to stall world building to insane degrees anon. We're gonna have to wait another century before HW finally invades, at least according to the scrolls.

Kekalite

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>>90208876
Awwwwww everyone in this show is just all drama and love with eachother it's adorable

5th time wow I'm not observant blame my jumpy mind

>>90208879
Pretty much. It's just stupid when they give/take abilities and lessons to fit into some shitty storyline that did nothing but make fun of some people and show off some edgelord making his oc. If one of them had some character development, or there was just a funny/touching scene or two, it'd be ok. Nobody learned anything, and Ronaldo is still a fucking nutcase.

>>90208879
I'm getting seriously tired how each new episode seems to be regressing characters to season 1 level stupid. Ronaldo has been dealt with at least twice by the Gems yet in this episode they act like he is some weird element they have never had to face before.

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>>90208905
Sorry I am I idiot and I'm a little drunk

>>90208918
Yeah, SU isn't really funny

>>90208909
Never would have thought Gems would care about the opinions of humans, guess it just Steven being a fag. No one thinks they are aliens, just weirdos despite constantly saving the day and appearing in historical documents.

>>90206796
>Atleast Zuke is gone.
What?

>tfw Ronaldo never got them back for breaking up his relationship

>>90208918
it use to be decent/good. They have just gotten strangely preachy compared to older seasons.

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>>90206306
This is deep

>>90208970
>They have just gotten strangely preachy compared to older seasons.
This.

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>>90208909
Like oatmeal!!!
I like oatmeal I put penut butter in it!

Maybe that's why I love this episode because I put my headcanons and love in it like I would put penutbuter into oatmeal !

Sooo...is Lauren Zuke legitimately gone?

i'm going to miss her Amethyst if it's true :(

>>90208955
The town seems to flip flop between them always knowing about the CGs and what they are to them being super secret unknown force and considering the population of the town is like 50 some people that's pretty sad.

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>>90208963
Here is a face!

>>90208961
She got fired
or she quit
The point is she's gone and her shit has been UPROOTED

>>90208863
Is pearl secretly a snake person?

>>90208976
Damn...

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>>90209013
Welcome to the twilight zone

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>>90207695
>mfw

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>>90208987
Lol you're one of those people I recognize in SUGs. With you on this one, Amybro.

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>>90209007
Ok that's fantastic.
I just hope this isn't the final season then.
Things can only get better from here on out so it would be a shame.

>>90207879
Lauren mentioned that she wanted to have Peridot crushing on Amethyst and both becoming good friends afterwords which didn't fly with the tumblr crowd, saying she queerbaited them

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>>90209060
Replace that smile

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>>90209068

i honestly did think amadot would happen for a bit right up till about that one with the plane uncle comeing

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>>90209072
>>90209100
I love my fry husband
How old is my fry husband I'm not a peto am I?

oh my god this show is hilarious

because it's so retarded and they're not even trying

>>90206306
I don't care about SU, but from what I gather, the episode is making fun of SJWs and tumblrinas?

Sounds good to me.

>>90209312
>the episode is making fun of SJWs and tumblrinas?

it made fun of everyone

>>90209474

Good, even better. No wonder why so many people hated it then.

>Think to myself
>"Hey, the crystal gems could probably use a guy with skills like Ronoldo;s, he runs a blog and can help research occult gem activities and run some sort of online alert system for gem activity since he's so well connected to the internet blogosphere. That could have some potential as a Crystal Gem member and would really advance the Crystal Gem's point of being more of an Earth Defense force rather than just a ragtag team of goons.

>Nope Ronoldo a shit LEL
>That's funny right?

Why is this show just wasted potential? Why doesn't it take itself seriously anymore?

>>90208918
I've probably laughed out loud maybe twice in the entire time I've watched the show

>>90204404
Because adults who like cartoons and comics are much more likely to be sheltered manchildren.

>>90208521
It's almost like that's the central theme of the show.

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>Went from the most popular character in the show to the least

What happened?

And more importantly, how do we un-fuck it?

>>90209110
Old enough to have a tumblr blog and old enough to date. Has/had a girlfriend

>>90206306
I think this episode might be about discrimination, though I'm not sure. It's a bit too subtle for me.

>>90209851
That could describe a pre-teen.

Ronaldo is probably in his late teens, though.

>>90209783
>What happened?
Zuke happened
>And more importantly, how do we un-fuck it?
I say we cut our losses and leave this shit character behind

>>90206932
>there's still basic morals that need to be highlighted in some episodes

The ending felt like a fucking MLP episode - a character extracts a moral while music plays.

>>90208976
Hopsin is the fucking 14 year old edgy shit of the rap game. He's fucking terrible.

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>>90201795
heavy handed and not the best writing but id think /co/ would lose its shit in a good way seeing as the whole thing is an allegory for retarded SJWs (and probably need to be heavy for that reason)

>>90209531
Most shows jump the shark around/after 4 or so seasons.

>>90209224
They're trying, alright.
Trying my patience.

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>>90210029
Honestly, he can be "so bad it's good." Yeah his absolute narcissism and arrogance is infuriating but sometimes he's so out of touch with things you can't help but laugh. And this guy's fucking 31 years old, how could anyone not find this hilariously sad?

>>90209932

Never really bothered to watch Steven Universe, but what exactly did this "Zuke" do?

>>90210223
Zuke turned two characters into shit and made some of the worst episodes of SU

>>90210223
She (Zuke's a storyboarder) tried to push a personal ship into canon but I guess people started accusing her of queer baiting or something, and then it was shown that she was at odds with the other boarders as well. It's a bit confusing and I probably got this wrong, there are more detailed explanations in the thread

>>90210263
Turned into shit? In what way? And who was the other character besides Peridot?

>>90210289
>tried to push a personal ship into canon but I guess people started accusing her of queer baiting or something, and then it was shown that she was at odds with the other boarders as well.

Really?
Holy shit, this is high school levels of clique mentality and immaturity. I would think her fellow co-workers would be more.... I don't know, organized and mature with each other so that it doesn't result in situations like this? This isn't just regarding Zuke, by the way, but the fact that the other writers and storyboarders let this slip through?

>>90210337
>but the fact that the other writers and storyboarders let this slip through
They didn't. That's why Zuked quit/got fired.

do we have CONFIRMATION Zuke got fired? All i can gather is that she deleted her twitter.

>>90210357
They should've handled it earlier then.
If they didnt then those said two characters wouldn't have been ruined, right?

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>>90207879

>>90210297
Lapis, a mysterious and tragic character who's now just a mouthpiece for snarky comments while CLEARLY being a genocidal monster who needs to be put down.

Peridot does not even resemble her former self. No comparisons can be made.

>>90210458
>genocidal monster

Didn't know Lapis had a kill count.

>>90210401
They allowed the shipping as long as it was needed, since Sucrose admitted to enjoy shipping, but mostly the teasing aspect of it. Zuke probably wanted to make Lapidot canon, and it wasn't in Sucrose's vision.

Personally I don't think the characters are ruined, and I think they can be fixed with an episode or two.

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>mfw Peridot's innate superiority complex and callous personality built up over thousands of years disappears immediately after Gem Drill

>>90210535
She drank the CG koolaid.

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It was a complete waste of time.

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>>90208945
Steven is preparing to eat out Connie's ass.

That is the only explanation for why he would drink and enjoy the juice of the poop-fruit.

>>90209531
>he runs a blog and can help research occult gem activities and run some sort of online alert system for gem activity since he's so well connected to the internet blogosphere.
That sounds like utter shit. SU isn't a crime investigation show and doesn't need a "cool nerd girl" computer girl secretary. This is why fans shouldn't write or board for the shows they watch.

>>90208918
>logdate was one of the funniest episodes and was written by zuke but no anon will ever admit this because juked zuke meme

>>90201795
What was the episode about? I don't follow week to week and instead wait for big chunks. All these threads got me curious.

>>90210749
I guess that means Steven does have his own training arc, in a way. Very subtle stuff.

>>90210498
She dropped an entire ocean back to earth and as an autist alien stuck in solitary confinement for 5000 years, likely doesn't know much about earth's coast opulations and ecosystems nor cares to soften the water's descent. Millions definitely died, but SU is a cartoon so it won't be dwelled on.

>>90211098
It's shit even for a townie episode

It made me nostalgic for the days when this used to be a monster hunting show

>>90208733
also her legs and feet

First time checking a SU thread since like 4 steve bombs ago, since when did you all start hating on Zuke?

>>90206818
>after ZukeGate

Since this, I guess. What happened?

>>90211148
>but SU is a cartoon so it won't be dwelled on.

You know this, yet you guys still act as if the world outside Beach City matters.

>>90210535
I'm remember her acting superior and callous in that episode with Lapis and Connie.

>>90210520
>Personally I don't think the characters are ruined, and I think they can be fixed with an episode or two.

Since anons flipflop on whether they hate or love a character at the drop of a hat, you're right.

>>90207381
If you said fuck whitey I would probably laugh depending on how much black were in your voice

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>>90208586
they might as well be actually putting chemicals in the water though, since every human that isn't greg seems to have been drinking lead poisoned water

>>90211098
>Ronaldo says rock people are shit
>Steven says that he and the crystal gems are rock people
>Ronaldo cries because he didn't realise he was being anti gem
>Ronaldo joins the crystal gems
>Ronaldo treats Steven like shit for no real reason
>Steven eventually yells at him
>Ronaldo leaves the crystal gems and decides he's better off as a loner

>>90207594
Because Ronaldo isn't Steven's girlfriend. They even made Ronaldo say that in the episode as if it weren't true, for fuck's sake

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>>90207695
Dianté saying it like it is

>>90209312
I thought it was the opposite. It felt like a "don't you dare critisize anything about my show you silly boys" episode.

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>>90211515
You know? put like that it almost feels like Ronaldo was Zuke and the CG the rest of the crewniverse in this episode.
Or maybe I'm just tired, either way it amuses me.

How can an episode be so fucking preachy yet say absolutely nothing all at the same time?

It's so poorly written and hamfisted that I'm not even sure the writer knew who they were jabbing at.

So where's Jane?

>>90210535
>thousands of years
She could be 2 for all we know. In fact, we know she's definitely younger than Leggy.

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>yfw Ronaldo goes full Yajirobe on Yellow Diamond

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>>90211803
>yfw Ronaldo steals Steven's spotlight at the end
>yfw Onion steals Ronaldo's thunder after that.

>>90207791
after reading some of those, are we sure she's not Renaldo?

>>90211780
Someone didn't watch TNCG

>>90211675
uhh there was a moral about gaslighting
>>90212002
also zuke=renaldo

>>90212008
Lapis said that line and she knows jack shit about Peridot.

>>90212032
Peridot would likely said something about it if it wasn't true. She's probably still younger than Amethyst but barely 1000+

>>90212090
>Peridot would likely said something about it if it wasn't true.
What about Peridot would make you expect she would own up to a personal flaw like inexperience (or anything else for that matter?)

>>90210535
She still acted superior towards Connie and still seems to think Pearl is lesser than her from subtext.

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/co/ after Chile Tid:
>Zuke's the best! Can't juke the Zuke! Sex hair Amethyst is best Amethyst!

/co/ about a year and a half later:
>D-dyke, it's all her fault! Sugar should have kicked her off the show years ago!

Gee, I wonder who could be behind this.

>>90212189
Her episodes in season 2 were actually good though, I don't think you'll find many who'd dispute that. It went downhill when she focused on her memegem ship and using the show as her personal soapbox.

>>90212189
Zuke's downfall is her own dumb doing see >>90207791

>>90201795
lol, I hope so, it was a punch in the stomach of all those fags who keep making gemsonas and self insert ero-fanfics.
that would be you Zuke

Okay so I just watched Rocknaldo. Was more funny than I was expecting. Also was less focus on Ranaldo being a conspiracy nut than I expected. Overall not a great episode but pleasantly surprised (but my expectations were really low to begin with).

Episode was mildly amusing at best and pointless at worst. I understand people not liking it, but the anger is not warranted IMO.

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>>90201795
If you guys were to rewrite Ronaldo's character, or only this episode, what changes would you have made?

>>90211148
Her water pillar wouldn't be so disastrous. Based on height and diameter it wouldn't have been near enough to contain all the world's oceans. I'm assuming that Beach City just happens to be near a shallow bay

>>90212303
I'd just never have him show up after season one. Alphonso/Ferguson the shit outta him.

>>90207791
How does someone like this actually function in society, let alone get a career in animation? They don't even seem like the 'fake it 'til you make it' types either, just the sort of person who wears their heart on their sleeve.

Is it just the internet's fault? Is everyone like this in reality but hides it? I sincerely don't understand.

>>90212303
Make the CG actually try to give some training would be a step in the right direction, leaving him hanging on the house for a week just because was just out of place with everything.

>>90212291
I think Onion's gang is the worst episode still.
This episode was just silly fun, but pointless, specially on season 4

>>90212316
>Ronaldo! I haven't talked to you at all in over a year, but I just want to let you know your existence adds to the spice of Beach City!
>Ronaldo's arm waves from within a dumpster.

>>90202188
What did he say? I did not and will not watch a Ronaldo episode.

>>90212334
Silly and pointless is the way I'd describe Rocknaldo yeah. I'm right behind you guys who are tired of filler, but putting things into perspective helps keep every non-plot episode from being "the worst ever".

>>90208918
The writing just isn't that good. Any time someone in SU makes a joke, I think "wait, that's not how people talk".

>>90212189
Zukefag fuck off

>>90212303
>>90212303
I'd kill him off
and nobody would miss him or even attend his funeral

>>90212378
Filler wouldn't be so awful if it wasn't for how long the hiatus's last for.

>>90208918
Yeah. While on the other hand SVTFOE's Collateral Damage made me laugh pretty hard.

>>90209312
Probably the opposite, it's about.
I don't know?
>Allies
Or something
>Muh white people wanting to join a movement about others
>How dare they ask us to make it about them by accommodating them
Or something.
I don't know.
Could be about fans.
Really it is a mirror you could hold up to any number of situations.

>>90206818
The 'Greg manages to empathy a Diamond' arc was pretty good and shows humanity at its best.
About to kill a god by inseminating it.

>Fuck white people: The episdoe

>Connie comes to train
>They don't do any training along Renaldo
>They don't even take him to the arena
Seeing renaldo fuck up his training to the point he gets kicked out or trying to brush off his fuckups would have been immensely more entertaining than watching him bum around the house making shit up in his head to pass the time.

>Lets let him in! We are about peace and love!
>Ends up fucking everything up and makes it all worse.

Is this the most red pilled show yet?

>>90212620
>Ronaldo challenges Connie to a sparring match
>Connie goes easy on him, using a tree branch in the place of her sword
>Ronnie gets rekt
>Ronaldo says he wasn't fighting at full potential because Connie wasn't fighting seriously with her sword
>Connie goes hand to hand to prove a point

>>90211803
I would personally take the time to mail Rebecca Sugar $5 if this happened.

>>90201795
It was plain boring,and Ronaldo being a parody of conspiracy theorists AND basement dwellers doesn't help; also,Ronaldo is a terrible character all around.
The only thing that changed over the episode is Ronaldo's view about the Chrystal Gems, and nobody gives a shit about what Ronaldo things,so there you go.

>kids don't watch this garbage
>adults don't watch this garbage

Who fucking watches this shit other than /sug/?

>>90211055
People can like Vincent Van Gogh's paintings but still admit that he was objectively fucked in the head.

>>90203384
Greg probably didn't even informed registry office about Steven's existence.

>>90212973
Kek that's one heck of a comparison

>>90212537
>Fuck white people: The Show

this cartoon fucking fem shit

>>90211055
I'll admit that. I love that episode.

>everyone is projecting their own ideas onto the episode
>everyone is getting angry over it

absolute madwoman, what will zuke do next?

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>>90206306
I mean I knew I was gonna skip this episode before hand because fuck Ronaldo, but even this tidbit was too much.

>>90208588
Yeah but Connie wasn't an annoying cunt.

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>>90204404
because they always forget our prefered pronouns

>>90207093
take a 9mm aspirin

>>90210031
it doesnt matter if the episode was an allegory to anything, it was simply boring

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I miss the handsome husbando

>>90207580
>poopyb*ttface
Whoa whoa, there's absolutely no need for that kind of language

Ronaldo is an incredibly poorly-written character with lazy writing and if it hits close to home, so are you.

>>90212303
An episode where Ronaldo guilts Steven into fixing his relationship with that cute weeb girl, it works and from then on he becomes a background character. Also starts dressing better.

>>90210031
Where do you faggots keep getting the idea this episode was making fun of SJWs? Zuke literally used this entire episode to rant about LGBT allies not actually giving a shit and doing it because being an ally is trendy.

>>90211675
>How can an episode be so fucking preachy yet say absolutely nothing all at the same time?
Thanks for putting it this way, this is really what got me about this episode. You can tell they decided on the social commentary first and tried (in vain) to write an episode around it.

>>90213652
Are you genuinely pissed over the Ronaldo's girlfriend thing? It was a joke, they probably made up off screen.

>>90213652
I'll one up you on that:
Episode where Steven TRIES to help Ronaladamadingdong get back together with his waifu, with looking down his nose at him just a touch because honestly, Ronaldo? Romance? What are his chances of not dropping the spaghetti without Steven to help, only to fuck things up because he doesn't understand their relationship or just how fuckin' Weeb they are.
Meanwhile Ronaldo fixes it himself in the background by doing something big, stupid and excessively animu, with the underlying message being that you don't necessarily help things by getting involved unless you know what you're dealing with and just because you think someone is incompetent doesn't mean they are.

They could use every romance anime cliche in the book, it'd be amazing and it'd make Ronaldo amusingly likeable if done right.
>I love you more than sneeple love draining our precious bodily fluids!

I just wanted to see what that mission was
It's been so long since we've seen one

>>90213750
>they probably made up off screen
Probably off-screen is not good enough and since the Crewniverse insists on having townie filler episodes then let's have one where Ronaldo is less of a shit.

>>90213781
I like this idea too, Steven tries to help and he fucks it up even worse till Ronaldo has to bench him and unfuck it all up in grandiose fashion.

>>90213750
>Steven gut punches pizza dad and just walks offf
>hahah, it was a joke!
Anon, pls.

>>90209783
He unfucked himself already, took 3 weeks off and apologized. and he's doing exactly that >>90209531

Did you memelords not watch the episode ?

>>90213208
Who is the artist on these?

>>90212303
Ronaldo fucking Peridot and making /sug/ scream in rage.

>>90202517
>cant we give ronalado a chance to be a decent person
But at the end he redeemed himself, ya?

>>90213750
>they probably made up off screen.
according to his blog, they did.

>>90214015
He did, those pamphlets should be helpful.

>>90214081
Well he grew and changed a bit, ya know?

>>90202920
underrated

http://io9.gizmodo.com/steven-universe-artist-quits-twitter-over-fan-harassmen-1785242762

http://www.dailydot.com/parsec/steven-universe-fanartist-bullied-controversy/

Why does the SU fanbase so fucking stupid?

I feel like there's a third incident I'm leaving out here, but I can't remember.

>>90208782
Exactly.

>>90214012
>Ronaldo fucking Peridot and making Zuke scream in rage.

Ftfy

>>90214188

Several. And also, the artist who was "bullied off twitter" was someone extremely unprofessional and unstable who should never have been working on this show in the first place and would be better off in a mental hospital.

>>90208782
Two things come to mind.

First, pet peeve.
Their*

Second, this episode referenced crashing skies rising tides. Where ronaldo correctly predicted the human zoo.

Homeworld is going to kidnap ronaldo and experiment on him and infuse gems in his bloodstream making him a real bloodstone and he's going to defect to homeworld.

>>90209312
It definitely is about bad LGTB/Feminism allies.

>>90214293
Right, which includes all the living ones.

>>90209312
It was about how white men need to stop being involved with gay rights.

>>90214293
This. This was made abundantly clear by Steven's rant at the end about how "This isn't the Bloodstone Club about making Bloodstone feel good."

>>90207580
>>90208721
Went to bed after making that post so this is kinda late, but yeah, I see your point.

I guess it's not quite the same as those due to the history of those terms.

Still, you would call out someone making up stupid new names for faggots along with spreading misinformation.
Steven calling it offensive was a bit much, but calling it out at all was proper.

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>>90208918
SU use to have top tier comedic timing. Dont know what happened.

>>90213973
They did. The /sug/ echo chamber helps erase memories though.

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Rocknaldo?

>Because it was about egocentric people who make everything about them.
>Townie episode
>Very little to work with in terms of shipping or whatever

>>90214967
Fags typically don't know what humor is and have to resort to dude quirky lmao

>>90215026
>Because it was about egocentric people who make everything about them.
Ironic considering Zuke hijacked a children's show to air her dirty laundry

>>90214885
Kind of falls flat to make a comparison with the crystal gems to feminism when the crystal gems face real threats that actually endanger the world.

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>>90214875
>fags don't realize that whites aren't essentially locked to a political party because of MUH RIGHTS
>fags don't realize whites will vote out of spite
>pic related

When will lefties stop being so abrasive and insufferable and learn how to play the game?

>>90208918
>>90214967
It used to be pretty good, once. Nothing exceptional, mind you, but some good lines. For some reason, though, that died after the first season.

>>90215107
This so much holy shit what the fuck.
Are we sure Zuke wrote this episode? Steven's tirade against Ronaldo near the end sounded god damn near exactly what Sugar would have said to Zuke when she fired her.

>>90215252
Considering being gay is decidedly her only personality trait, you can make an educated guess that the episode about bad LGBT allies is her doing.

>>90215205
Trump won because Clinton was an awful choice. If the dems had chosen someone who americans don't have a decades long history of hating I'm not sure he would have made it.