what do you guys think about Batgirl

>>90189511
I thought DC was better than this.

>>90189511
How could he misgender the tranny they look like every other female

>>90189511
Misgendered????

>>90189560
They are. Its not in every book

>>90189511
I didn't know it had turned into a comedy.

>>90189511
I enjoy Batgirl as long as literally everyone from the last five years isn't in it.

So basically, I enjoy Birds of Prey. :)

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You guys don't like this book?

Looks like the thread is bumplocked. Really makes you think.

>>90189745
What's that mean?

>>90189511
>Misgendered
>Fertility clinic

Uhhhhhhhh.

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>>90189808
Alysia an MtF wants to have a baby with their cis-gendered wife. It's a really good book. A bit ahead of its time, though.

>>90189866
Ahead of it's time? Howso? Also, I don't follow how this responds to the previous post.

>>90189560
DC isn't better than anything

>>90189721
>one person being rude is this huge hurdle they have to overcome
Wow.

I knew Hope Larson should avoid cape comics, but I didn't expect...this.

>>90189511
So, what's going on here precisely?
They went to a fertility clinic, so I guess either they're not a man who decided that they're actually a woman, as the clinic wouldn't do them any good, or they went there with their girlfriend so she could get pregnant.
Or they're one of the genderqueer or other made-up genders.

And then, what? The doctor didn't use the pronouns they like, so they've been sulking for the rest of the day?

>>90189511
>>90189721
You know, I can get behind the idea "this is really important to me, and it kinda bums me out it happens", but this fucking primadonna "one guy was kinda unvoluntarily rude it ruined my entire week" attitude is fucking pathetic.

Grow a fucking pair.

>>90189511
...She looks female and has a female name. How exactly did the doctor manage to misgender her?

That's pretty lazy writing, and I'm a borderline SJW.

>>90190077
He was having his fertility checked. His penis was involved.

>>90190028
MtF trannies often freeze their sperm before transitioning in case this exact situation comes up later.

>>90190077
I assume the fertility clinic person would know her deal, but seems odd that they'd be shitty about it.
Pretty quick way to lose your fucking job.

>>90189511
Her last run was better by far, in nearly all areas.

OP, why the fuck did you delete your previous thread? It wasn't even an hour old.

>>90190130
You can't delete threads anymore as far as I know. I had my thread deleted by the moderator for unknown reasons. Some person called me a crossboarder and said I should be banned just before the thread closed.

>>90190103
Oh right, that makes sense.

Still though, female name. That means the doctor still went out of his way to be an asshole to her.

>>90189579
Its not in every Marvel book too. You don't making a point

>>90190077

It's kinda subtle, and I like it, but you can clearly tell it's a dude.

Whoever drew this did a good job at getting this across I feel.

>>90189511
>"Trans"
>chooses to keep his birth genitals and just dresses like a girl

>>90189511
I think I made the right decision to not even steal a Hope Larson book.

>>90190224
To be fair Gail "White Whale, Holy Grail" Simone came up with Alysia.

>>90190129
The writing still kinda blew, but at least it had Babs Tarr.

>>90190182
I feel the need to focus on the "this would instantly get him fired" thing.
It's so lazy and stupid.

>>90189560
Well if it was a Marvel book they would already had all gone to beat up the doctor that misgendered her and then give a speech about it.

>>90190255
Oh, that horrible fucking run.
>FIGHT THE POWER

>I'm Batgirl.
>I'm trans.

>>90189511
I'm in the minority who preferred the Simone run.

She has like a 100% record for villains I enjoy.

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>>90190312
>I'm Redfield

>>90190182
>Go to a doctor because you want to use your dick to get a girl pregnant.
>Call yourself a girl.

>>90189721
>"Sorry to hear that"
>"You're not sorry ENOUGH"

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DC has been writing about trans characterd since the 80's as long as it's not preachy IDGAF

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>that feel when everyone misgenders you

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>>90190255
Yeah but Simone did it better by simply treating that as something equal and never really bringing it up again.

She did it again in N52 Suicide Squad where Porcelin was like "sometimes I'm a girl and sometimes I'm a boy" and instead of spending more time on it another character goes "Well whenever you're a guy remember to dress classy. Here's a hat."

>>90190455
>miss gender
TRIGGERED!

>>90190357
That was the problem - Simone clearly wanted to be writing Secret Six, and instead wrote a boring Batgirl book with interesting villains.

>>90190405
>hello person with a penis who wants to use his penis to impregnate a girl
>GIRLS CAN BE FATHERS TOO SHITLORD


Fucking Christ.

If you don't transition you aren't trans. It's in the name.

>>90190518
Isn't that transvestite? I don't know the differences between transvestite, transgender, and transexual anymore.

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>>90189511
>post a page from the writer they specifically took off the book because of this shit

>/co/ takes the bait

Everytime

>>90190508
I don't even remembering it being boring,
But it's been so long my mind may have filtered it down to what I enjoyed.

>>90190531
It's designed in such a way that you will always get something wrong and they will always attempt to make you feel guilty about it.

This behavior stems from a mental illness: Munchhausen syndrome.

>>90190548
>No, see, this is bait!
Comics are literally bait now. Therefore the threads are, too. Same with politics. Don't like it? Stop reading comics.

>>90190584
That doesn't make sense AND YOU KNOW IT.

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>>90190605
>It doesn't make sense!!!!!
Yeah, comics are totally not bait these days. Totes.

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>>90190605
>It doesn't make sense!!!!!
Yeah, comics are totally not political these days.

Should I keep going? Comic writers invite this treatment of their art onto themselves.

>>90190518
More likely using frozen sperm, though I guess they've never commented on the current state of the character's dick.

Either way.

>>90190531
>transvestite
Dresses like the opposite sex, but still considers themself whatever they were born as.
>transgender
Considers themself to be the opposite of what they were born as.
>transexual
Transgender, but also did the operation. I think.
Never been super clear on the distinction there.

>>90190634
>>90190662
I mean, all I have to do is keep googling. Comic writers can't create an environment and then demand that it's coming from an outside source. And neither can you.

>>90190560
I mean, if you enjoyed it, more power to you. I found it dreary and annoying after Simone's enjoyable Secret Six and Birds of Prey runs.

>>90190548
What are you talking about, anon? Which writer got taken off Batgirl?

>>90190662
>these days
You must be extremely new.
Comics have been political for as long as they've existed.

The only difference now is that the political are almost universally shit.

>>90190634
>>90190662
Yes, there are some comics that are bait. I don't think the majority are, though. Those examples stick out because they're so blantant (also the Wondygal "mansplaining" comic).

Though I will say that Bombshells is almost completely just pandering bait all the time. Ugh, I hate that comic so much.

>>90190685
Yeah, that was sort of what I thought, but people here are using "transgender" to mean "transitioned," which confuses me. Also, the stupid shortening of "trans" is probably deliberately confusing.

>>90190709
Oh yeah nothing else of hers holds a candle to her 00s stuff.

>>90190749
>The only difference now is that the political are almost universally shit.
I'll give you that one.

>>90190531
Transvestite: man who dresses in women's clothing for fun. No other motive than personal enjoyment.

Transgender: condition where one believes they were born as the wrong sex. May or may not seek reassignment.

Transsexual: transgendered person who is actively seeking reassignment, either through hormone therapy or surgery.

Knowing the difference is important for being able to shittalk properly.

>>90190198
It's the shoulders. Normally artists never draw the proper wide male shoulders MtF trannies have.

>>90190709
>Birds of Prey
Her first run was mostly solid, but the second one was so shitty i'd call it an obvious precursor to her Batgirl.

>>90189721

Get fucked, Alyssa. You live the one part of the burning dumpster fire of Gotham basically built to be a millennial daycare/theme park, where you actually have the opportunity to even go to a fertility clinic, and you can't accept that not everyone in the goddamn city knows your pronouns.

Alyssa is the most nothing character and Babs keeps hanging around her because...what?

>>90191059
I agree that the 2010 run wasn't nearly as good as 2003, but I don't think it was quite that bad. The issue where Helena fights Shiva, and the arc she was setting up at the end with Junior were pretty good. And the date with Catman and Huntress was also pretty good.

Every month I miss Oracle more and more.

>>90190548
Nobody got taken off anything, except maybe you from your meds.

>>90191212
Graham was stealth fired and replaced with Hope. She has severely toned this shit down since then.

>>90190192
>You don't making a point

>>90191157
SAME, ANON. HAIL!

>>90189511
I like how all the people she hangs out with are fags. Babs is such a progressive gal. How long till she's munching carpet to fit in?

>>90191228
Graham? Who the heck?

>>90190049
Seriously. Bitch lives in Gotham city. Being misgendered doesn't even enter the top 100 things that can ruin your fucking day in Gotham, let alone your week.

>>90191327
Shit my bad, I meant Stewart. All these SJW warriors bleed together to me.

>>90191421
But, anon, the page we're talking about is by Larson, from this week's Batgirl comic. And it's way more blatant than anything Stewart and Fletcher ever did.

Now, I think Larson is a much better writer than those two hacks, but it's still really annoying.

>>90191315
Give it a year or two, she's going through love interests like they're going out of fashion.

I think the current BF she's has now is like her fourth in the last year.

>>90191451
It's been far less prevalent since he left but yeah its still bad.

Being transgendered is fine, exposing children still exploring their sexuality to concepts an an adult has a hard time consolidating is not.

>>90190938
I've heard plenty of people called transvestite who were looking for reassignment.
So were people using transvestite wrong for years or for better PR people simply use transgender now instead cause it doesn't sound as bad.

>>90191451
Larson's just WAY out of her wheelhouse, as many of us expected she would be.
Why she even took the job is beyond me.

>>90191493
>Won't somebody think of the children?!
Oh, don't be that guy.

>>90191493
I mean, this is only the second issue with Alysia, since Babs just got back, and this scene is incredibly bad. I'm worried Alysia is going to be a consistent anchor in this comic now that Babs is back in Burnside.

>>90191631
It's true. I've seen little girls at my LCS picking this book up. Go write an Image book if you want to address things like this.

>>90191631
I agree - I don't get why Larson took the job, except for the sweet, sweet moolah.

>>90190634

How does a Viking know what an Israel is?

>>90191468
>going through love interests like paper

From what I learned from teen Jean, that means you're probably gay. She should go have a chat with Batwoman.

>>90191631
Gonna be that guy - I think the current approach to trans issues is destructive, training them to think they were born wrong. Figuring out how to love the body they're born with makes more sense to me.

>>90191421

Clearly you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. This is current Batgirl, Stewart and Tarr haven't been on Batgirl for like over a year.

>>90189511

I thought the black handicapped lesbian super computer genius best friend was clever satire but after reading that issue I'm not so sure anymore. What was even the purpose of that whole page? Just looked at Hope Larson's twitter and she doesn't seem like the SJW type. M-maybe it's satire right??
I was enjoying this run so far because it was a cute comic with a cute female superhero and it somehow managed to steer clear of any political shit. Who wants to read about that shit?

>>90190192
>it's OK when DC does it
is practically /co/mblr's motto at this point. They're all fine and good with mocking SJW trash as long as it's not THEIR SJW trash.

>>90191655
If DC didn't want this in their books then the editors wouldn't have let it get into their books.