Unpopular Opinions/Coping Thread

>>90177977
I honestly liked Avengers Arena.

As a DC fan, I hate Batman.

aquaman is literally the best superhero

SU is neither shit nor great. It's just okay 6/10.

>>90178967
I don't hate Batman by any means but I do hate his fanbase of casuals and the fact that WB does almost nothing but exploit Batman instead of trying to promote the countless other properties they have that could make good cartoons, movies, or even video games.

The only truly, transcendantly good bit of the entire Avatar saga is Book 2: Earth. Book 1 and Book 3 of ATLA are both, to some degree, disappointments, Book 1 moreso at the beginning and Book 3 definitely at the end. Book 2 is the only one that's truly amazing. And of course Korra never even reaches that level.

I hate how Adventure Time shat on Finn, but the Islands series was great.

>>90180512
Book 2 had some major issues though, especially during the Ba Sing Se arc.

Really, the whole show did, but the OVERALL writing quality was high enough that it was fine for the most part.

Most of the MCU is pretty fucking solid when you get right down to it.

People who think writers should keep politics out of their work are philistines.

Dick Grayson's post-Robin career has been an almost complete non-starter.

The Nu52 was pretty good on the whole.

GJ's best days might be behind him, but I don't think he's that bad right now. Darkseid War kinda sucked, but I liked his post-FE Justice League up until then.

The Lego Batman Movie was a cash in, and not even a good one like the first Lego movie.

>>90177977
Steven Universe is fucking amazing and deserves more recognition some of the things its done

>>90177977
Star Vs has far better voice acting than I expected.

>>90177977
I loved the last episodes of Gravity Falls.

I want both the DCEU and the MCU to be the absolute best they can be, and root for both companies.

>>90183218
all the hate it gets is incredibly unwarranted.
one of the few animated shows where I actually enjoy the music and singing.

musicals I don't like includes disney movies and such.

There's nothing wrong with having a diverse cast in comics, it's how they go about doing it is the problem.

Filling comics with a diverse cast accomplishes nothing if you don't actually hire minorities to write them (unless the non-minority guy writing it has done a fuckton of research).
I.e. compare New Superman and Ironheart. One's a really fun, interesting take on China, Chinese identity and superheroics, the other is Bendis wanking for twenty pages because he's filled today's diversity quota.

>>90183218
>>90183876
I used to agree with this entirely

But the current season has been incredibly sloppy on a lot of levels

But AT redeemed itself for me so I'm still willing to give SU another chance

I liked BvS more than any MCU movie so far and I honestly don't understand why people say it's a trainwreck - my only complain is the godawful Lex.

>>90180512
Pretty sure that's the majority opinion. I still thought Books 1 and 3 were good, but Book 2 was far and beyond the best.

I would've loved loved loved to have seen Tim Seeley's Blade book but I do respect him a little more after reading why he decided not to write the book.

As a black woman I do think that he would've written a really good book after reading Revival and Effigy. However I do think that it was cool of him to step aside and say that maybe a new up and coming writer, especially a black female one, may have a better perspective on new Blade.


Hawaiian pizza is the best pizza.

I think Adventure Time has been consistently great throughout its entire run. Everything Flame Princess kinda sucked though.

>>90177977
I'm baffled that anyone over 18 reads Marvel and/or DC.
People who say "Comics have always been political!" are autists incapable of recognizing that the issue is the blunt, stupid way they present their politics lately.
/pol/ does not "invade" /co/. The threads that get called /pol/ are just posts from people who aren't Tumblr 90% of the time.

regular show was awful

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>>90177977
I don't understand the hype behind Samurai Jack's revival. The show isn't bad, or great, it was always seemed pretty decent to me. Its the kind of show you'd binge watch during a rainy day or something.

>>90183883
Same. It's really a shame how, when the hate for the show was at its height, the show was pumping out some genuinely good episodes. Now we're stuck defending a show that's growing more mediocre by the week and surrounded by smug "I told you so!"s.

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I hate people who hate "capeshit" comics. I get that you don't like something. Fine, whatever, but whenever these hipster faggots open their goddamned mouth, they preach endlessly about their precious indie label and their tiny, limited release runs that no one ever fucking heard about. Like, fuck! You like what you like, I like what I like, and you can stop pushing your opinions on me and go suck a cock.

I also hate lcs employees who have no idea what I'm talking about. It's like these fucks don't know anything if it's older than 5 years old. I was in a lcs a couple weeks ago looking for the handful of Young Justice issues I'm missing, and when I ask the guy behind the counter, he just looks at me like I'm blue. If you work at a comic store, you don't have to know everything, but at least be knowledgeable enough to recognize names. Or say, "I'm not familiar with that, let me look that up" abd fucking Google that shit.

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I like webcomics.

Ponies should be allowed

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Daredevil: The Man Without Fear is overrated.
I mean, it has Daredevil throwing a naked tied up man in the snow just for bullying Foggy. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. Miller clearly wrote it during the era where he stopped taking his medication. Plus he re-used one of the scenes from his run. And Romita's art sucks at times.

>>90177977
I like the character of Miles Morales because I'm black and I like the representation.

Bendis is still a fucking hack and I'm waiting for the day when he's able to be permanently written by someone else.

>>90185066
I would argue that most of modern Marvel's IDEAS- Moon Girl, Champions, etc.- are great. It's the EXECUTION that's lacking.

>>90183879
This.

>>90185004
I agree, and I'm not even a ponyfag. They can have their one general and occasionally another thread to discuss something specific or whatever. Every other show gets that, but somehow ponies trigger everyone so fucking hard.

>>90185097
I talk about ponies on /v/ as much as possible because they are all barneyfags, their autism of hating it is much worse than fans

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>>90184970
On that note, I hate capeshit. I like my stories to have a concrete beginning, middle and end. The "endless canon" of capeshit is the root of all its current problems, and I find how often individual, non-big name characters are little more than tools to move the plot along or, worse, to push a company agenda to be deplorable.

And the worse part is, nobody who actively reads capeshit seems to wholeheartedly enjoy it anymore, but they rarely seem to dare to branch out. People just cling to their favorite characters like some sort of idols, when in reality their personalities are malleable enough for them to be a dozen different people. Why read about a character whose personality only goes as far as whoever is writing him wishes, whose history can be ruined forever by a single bad run when you can read multiple, shorter stories featuring more consistent and involved characters?

Kilgrave is one of the worst villains I had the displeasure of seeing and I don't get where the universal praise comes from.
He's not entertaining, interesting, menacing, creepy, memorable, charismatic or intelligent.
There was no subtlety (like to anything in that shit show, to be fair) to his evil, he was pretty much a cartoon character.
He was hard to take seriously and every time he talked about his boner for Jessica, all I wanted to do is rip out my ears to not hear that cringe.

>>90184970
Much of the backlash over capeshit is less about the fans and the actual content and more over it's sheer domination of the industry

>>90177977
I feel like /co/ isn't /v/ enough.

I wish the word "kino" was a bannable offense on this board.
I wish that anyone who uses it, even ironically, got a permaban or a rangeban.
Same goes for "perfect x don't exi--", "what did he mean by this" and other crossboarder garbage.

>inb4 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>90185215
I don't even know what kino means.

>>90183973
As much as people like to retroactively complain about Rebecca Sugar in AT, she made Flame Princess interesting and enjoyable during her run a a writer. I have a feeling that if she stayed on board, Finn and FP wouldn't have broken up. The breakup was just the other writer's way to attempt to add the "drama" that Sugar wrote so well, while completely missing the point of the relationship in the first place.

>>90178797
Same. And Undercover. Pity everything Hopeless did after it sucked.

>>90185423
As much as I loved Sugar's work on adventure time, I have to disagree. Flame Princess was never that dynamic as a character, and I hated the drama that she brought to the show. Her relationship with Finn was pretty boring to me honestly. It felt forced and unnecessary, and looking back, I'm glad they ended it when they did.

>>90185176
Non-capeshit greatly outsells capeshit by massive margins if one bothers to look at anything beyond direct market sales. It doesn't really dominate the industry anymore. It's just for some reason people allow it to suck all the oxygen out of the conversation when it comes to comics. It doesn't really dominate movies or tv either. There's more shows and movies of almost any other genre you can think of and people still act like too much capeshit is being made. And once again it's because it sucks all the oxygen out of any conversation that has to do with film or television.

TL;DR: The overblown perception of capeshit's presence is what causes the backlash against capeshit. Not the fans, content or the amount.

>>90185165
>There was no subtlety (like to anything in that shit show, to be fair) to his evil
Then show us all a villain with true subtlety.

>>90185489
I can respect that. I guess my issue is that FP only got about five episodes before the breakup, and about five episodes during/after the breakup. I don't feel as though she was given enough time to really come into her own as a character, and now half of her screentime is during/post breakup. Granted, I have no issue with the fact that there was a breakup, nor do I have any issue with relationships in media on a base level. But what I do care about is good writing, which I feel is distinctly lacking in the second half of what we've seen of FP.

What's so funny about truth justice and the american way? is literal garbage that makes MOS look deep and philosophical.

>>90185709
Read and watch anything but capeshit and you'll find a few who don't have a metaphorical "get it, he's EVIL" sign over their head every time they do or say something as if the viewer is braindead.

>>90185784
Okay, how about a real example instead of using the word "capeshit" unironically?

I feel like the only person here who thinks Star Vs is unbearably hideous

>>90185097
Because Barney's a shit show, of course we hate what isn't good.

>>90185798
Fine. Vic Mackey. He may have done evil acts, but he's morally ambigious enough to not seem like a fucking cartoon character.
Satisfied?
>inb4 protagonists can't be villains

>>90185258

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(movement)

It's a movement about short indie films with little budget, and since indie=high art for snobs /tv/ took it as a meme to mean 'art' movies are kino, and as memes do, it was distorted enough to kino=good and they call now high budgeted bloackbusters kino. '''''''ironically'''''''' of course.

>>90184029
>/pol/ does not "invade" /co/. The threads that get called /pol/ are just posts from people who aren't Tumblr 90% of the time.
I agree with this, but I agree with the inverse too.
Posts that get called "tumblr" 90% of the time are just posts from people who aren't /pol/fags.

Orlando is a competent writer, but he's not a good writer. He has exactly three voices for his characters: Midnighter, not Midnighter, and evil guy.

Samurai Jack was better than Sym Bionic Titan.

Captain Marvel & Spider-Woman would be better as a married couple.

>>90185077
That's a very fair argument. I'd say the only ones handled decently ware Kamala and Robbie. I wish I could like Moon Girl. Champions is trash and I feel bad for even holding out a bit of hope after reading the previews.

Swans sucked ever since Soundtracks for the Blind.

>>90177977
I find the main plot and action scenes of steven universe to be awful, but the slice of life episodes are great.

to be honest i actually like Teen Titans Go

Regular show should have ended with Mordecai and Rigby no longer being friends.

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>>90185802
The show or Star herself?

I don't like Tara Strong as Raven.

>>90185939

What did he mean by this?

I think Steven universe should have it's own board.

>>90187686
The show, Star looks decent in fanart

The only comics-based movies I like are Road to Perdition, Sin City and A History of Violence.
I like some cape comics, but never movies based on them.

>>90180511
That is exactly what I meant, thanks. If Batman didn't have such of a monopoly in DC I'd have a positive perception on him.

>>90177977
I hate when people say that cow and chicken was the best show ever made and was pinnacle of american animation.

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>>90184994

>>90188171
said no one ever anon?

Arkham Asylum game was a good standalone story and never required any continuation.
Everything after was the same shit with slight improvements (or serious hindrances, like Batmobile shit in Knight) and shitty plots.

this board is filled with feminists and meminists

and not the trolling ironic kind

the real kind.

/v/ is a cache of wealth and class compare to this cesspool

Scar did nothing wrong and as the black maned Lion (and I think older brother), it was his birthright to rule that pride.

>>90183218
Steven Universe was the most meh/10 cartoon I've ever seen. I am so fucking bored everytime I watch this show, it's almost like watching Soccer.

Fox will give the X-men and Fantastic Four movie licenses back to Marvel eventually

>>90185823
>we hate what isn't good.
[CITATION NEEDED]

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>>90188290
ah yes, because one-sided "discussion" is so fun

People are awfully quick to shoot down new stuff as author OCs taking the light from the real characters.

Lots of /co/ doesn't remember or never read stuff older than 2000.

BvS was an enormous waste.

I didn't like MoS due to everything Kryptonian except for Supes. If it was going to be a character movie, they should have let it be a character movie. Clark just meandered around, conveniently getting work at a black site dig and was told what to do most of the movie.

>>90188450
oh please, continue to prove my point frog(wo)man

I hate the fact that people storytime new comics on Wednesday especially if they don't post a link to the comic in the thread.

I hate that people here read comics to see what will get them riled up about sjws and other political bullshit.

I hate that people cared more about posting their "obscure waifus" than whether or not a show it good or even decent enough to watch.

Inside Out sucked hairy ass.

>>90185004
This. People overreacting to it and it getting its own board set a precedent where people think they can just shove away stuff they don't like despite it literally belonging on the board it's posted on. It creates a dual end problem where we end up with fans of the show spamming material in retaliation and their fan base getting hyper developed in a direction that's not where our board culture is and potentially mutated into something horrific (e.g. the transformation of tlh and su fandoms after being sent to /trash/ and the literal creation of bronies after making /mlp/), and we have a bunch of people thinking they can just smash the report button, spam, and derail legitimate discussions just because they don't like the other show.

Now everything is all super contained in generals instead of us just discussing comics and cartoons openly across the board like we used to back in the old days. It's turbo autism and it only creates radicals in the persecuted fandom. We are lucky SU didn't go full brony mode during their hiatus/ban when they were stuck in /trash/ by themselves.

>>90187725
Same. Aubrey Plaza would be better, although with maybe a little less bitchyness.

>>90188290
>meminists
Meme rights now!

>>90177977
Steven Universe S1 and the current season are awful.

S2 and S3 were very good.

The Sentry can be a great character in the hands of a proper writer.

I thought BvS was one of the best capeshit movies made in the last couple of years, and I liked Eisenberg's Luthor.

>>90184970
The only time I preach to capefags is when they are loudly whining about something that's inherent to the big 2's publishing model.
I read both big 2 capes and indie/euro

>>90188666
Sentry was fantastic under Jenkins with the exception of that shitty Fallen Sun story, but that's probably Jenkins being a bitter cunt and pulling a "fuck you". His downfall as a character was getting in the hands of Bendis.

SU is good, but takes too long to become interesting.

Star vs was good from the first episode.

AT never stopped being good.

Allow the horse show, ban live action.

Avatar book 1 is meh.

Korra isn't that bad.

I haven't read QC in close to a decade and what I see of it now on here horrifies me.

/co/ is basically the only board worth visiting these days.

>>90177977
I really enjoy Gwenpool. I think it's very good for what it is. And not just because waifus, it'd be cute even if the lead were Mega Tony with Gwen's attitude.

>>90185767
It's pretty ironic the praise it gets here when it's the typical example of a writer who cared more about the message/commentary he was giving than about telling a good story.
I guess it helps that it's a meta message about comics rather than politics.

/tv/ and crossboarders shoud be banned.

>>90184087
I agree with this a lot, actually. And it'll probably be to my benefit, since my expectations aren't clouded by crazy hype.

>>90188515
Didn't /vp/ technically set the precedent on that?

>>90184087
The hype is part nostalgia and part just wanting some closure.

>>90188240
I've had friends and known small youtubers who have said that.

These aren't unpopular opinions.

>>90188935
4chans anons, their janitors, their moderators, and the site owner never learn from past mistakes

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>>90188515
This post reminds me of the brouhaha around the creation of /qst/. I still think it was for the best.

>>90183879
Absolutely this.

It's so hard arguing this against so much of this site, because you kinda get a sense that they don't want minorities in their comics/video games/television period. I want actual diversity and it minority characters need to be legitimately well-written and interesting.

>>90177977
>Avengers was a good movie and did a good job capturing the comics in general
>The Dark Knight Trilogy was fantastic, and Rises was an amazing movie that people only slam for their obsessive maymays (though the Talia twist was a weak spot in an awesome movie)
>Young Justice was extremely dull
>Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes was alright, but nothing to write home about
>The Agent Grayson stuff is stupid
>Damien is awful
>King's Vision run is alright, but not as good as people say it is

Nolan's trilogy was complete garbage and only people with low standards think it was any good.

>>90177977
The Infinity Train Pilot wasn't that good.

Clone High is overrated as fuck.

>>90177977
I like the edgy but secretly dorky goth archetype.

>>90177977
The setting and designs are the only things carrying K6BD. The characters are all dull and far too powerful for anything to pose a real threat. The fact they're all some variety of Waifu bait really doesn't help.

Zootopia is an overrated movie.

>>90189841
>The Dark Knight Trilogy was fantastic, and Rises was an amazing movie

this is an unpopular opinion?
what the hell

I don't give two shits about any live action /co/ adaptations anymore. Except for iZombie

Aqua Man is underrated and is actually pretty interesting.

>>90190704

Same here. All it does is just fuels the cancerous "faux geek" subculture that has cropped up among normalfags since The Big Bang Theory aired.

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The Loud House is one of the current best new cartoons and is already highly successful, better than most other cartoons running currently, and /co/ refuses to talk about it because fans of other shows can't handle the fact that it's become so successful. Because it's good.
The fact that LH threads have been banished to /trash/ since essentially day one because autists can't handle a show that's not their favorite doing well is a travesty.

Star is annoying

Wander is the least interesting character of his show and some times is more of a problem than a helping hand

Whoever is still following Prequel is an absolute retardo, even if it one day updates Kaz does not deserve praise or fans, one year for one page is too much no matter how impressive that page is

Endtown is amazingly boring and tedious and only enjoyable if read in groups of 6 or more pages

Steven U is trying to do soo many fucking things and so fails most of the times, the shows potential is wasted by the crew trying to create a show about LGBT acceptance and progressiveness that is pretty on your face even for a kids show

>>90190704
>iZombie
That show is fucking cancer, anon.
Agree that the rest of live-action is shit too, though.

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Wander over Yonder was nothing special, pretty bad and deserved to be cancelled.
Uncle Grandpa and Clarence are and were both objectively better shows on CN than steven universe.
Gravity falls was actually really good.
If you liked or watched adventure time or regular show at any point past your middleschool years you are an objectively inferior poster for having such memelord taste.
Calling something Reddit is a valid criticism.
Bojack Horseman is trash and unremarkable.
Bob's Burgers is absolute trash and wholly, utterly unremarkable and is subsisted solely by normies.
Rick and Morty was good. Once.
Gumball was never funny, never will be, was never cutting-edge or interesting/unique and deserved to be cancelled.
Capeshit needs its own board.
If you watch or follow RBWY or Homestuck you deserve to be dragged to the street and shot for being such a stain on humanity.
Calling Steven Universe Tumblr is a completely valid criticism.
Steven Universe isn't bad, It's just different.
Katie Rice is a cancer and SJW snowflake and nothing she has created has ever been good or is not totally hypocritical.
Did I Win yet?

>>90185181
/co isn't 4chan enough.
Every other board considers this place and /aco/ cancer and I completely agree with them.

>>90191062
trying too hard

>>90188846
This is a stupendously awful opinion so you've done a great job here anon

>>90191066
that's dumb
if we were as shitty as /v/, that'd be awful

>>90191062
So much edge.

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>>90191100
>>90191145
>t. Samefag who gets mad in unpopular opinion threads

Are you even trying?

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>>90191233
bruh

just stop

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/co/'s KFP-boner is fucking retarded. The first one was just the usual "Student learns secret technique and becomes the ultimate Kung-Fu badass" thing that Drunken Master and countless other movies have done better, with an element of the usual "Loser learns to fit in" thrown in. There are seven other kung-fu masters--Shifu, Oogway, and the Furious Five--trying to defeat the villain, and none of them amounts to shit at the end of the day. A more accurate title would've been "Kung-Fu Movie-By-Numbers".

KFP 2 is even worse, being basically a rehash of the first movie with Po mastering another secret technique (Inner Peace) to defeat another vaguely tragic villain. Here though, the "tragic villain" schtick is even stupider since Shen is a remorseless, genocidal psychopath who even murders his own henchmen. Shen's master plan ("I'll invade all of China with seven ships!") is retarded, the new side characters are just as useless as the old ones, and the whole movie is basically just a long Wile E. Coyote episode where the protagonists repeatedly try and fail to stop Shen over and over until Po wins.

The third one is so bad I had to watch it in snatches.
>LE FUNNY PANDAS XD
The villain is a dull non-entity, though at least he doesn't have a whiny backstory like the first two. The side characters are just as useless as ever, and I don't really know how Po learning to accept who he is differs all that much from the "Inner Peace" he achieved in KFP2.

All Star Superman is an incredible boring comic and not as emotional as people like to claim it is. Especially not the suicide part.

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>>90191272
Have my unpopular opinions truly rattled your rectum so fully that you blindly respond to the most obvious of baits, anon?
Maybe you need to take a break.

>>90191346
again, trying too hard

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>>90191381
>Replying

>>90191540
the guys got an entire folder fulla pepes
got to give them something to finish up to

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>The only good modern comic right now is New Super-Man. Maybe its because I have a feeling that it will be canceled before a new writer has a chance to latch on to it.
>I wish more modern comics followed the style of King's Omega Men. As in being a self-contained story that has a defined beginning and ending that has room to tell its story.
>Not all comics are capes. People who think that Watchmen and The Sandman are cape comics just because they came from DC are stupid as shit.
>Cartoons right now are a joke. Adventure Time and Regular Show are examples of staying alive too fucking long and Steven Universe is a example of aiming too high with the limited resources given.
>Gumball used to be one of my favorite cartoons, but all the family shit is seriously starting to piss me off. The show is too damn friendly to get those plots to actually work. The Watterson's looking like boring pieces of shit compared to the rest of the cast makes it even worse.
>Channel Wars is cancer. Movie Wars is cancer. Comic Wars is cancer. Judging anything by being a biased faggot should be the first fucking thing banned on this board.
>People who think they are mature for watching children cartoons while hating cartoons for a older audience. Shut the fuck up, no one cares. Stop being a dense little faggot and broaden your scope for animation. The same thing can be applied with comics.
>People who hate anime and manga just because it isn't from the West. Stop being a elitist, you can enjoy both.
>Hating comics while enjoying cartoons makes you look like a tool. Hating cartoons while enjoying comics makes you look like a tool. There are many great things to see in both. I can't understand why anyone would want to stick with only one.
>Waifu faggotry is not discussion. Stop acting like a fucking monkey and do something else with that time.

I'm really tired of /co/ sucking DCs dick over Rebirth when they still do so many things that screw over the consumer.

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>>90191062
The frog gives it away, m8. That and
>Calling something Reddit is a valid criticism.

>>90191971
>>People who hate anime and manga just because it isn't from the West. Stop being a elitist, you can enjoy both.
No, you fucking can't because weebshit is inherently trash.

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>>90183826

I swear, why do the mods have such a stick up their ass about Homestuck but leave the Steven Universe threads alone? Homestuck is (technically) ongoing so there's no real excuse to delete Homestuck threads.

>>90185215
Kino is like cuck where one day it was never around, the next day I saw it one time, then the day after that I see it in a lot of threads on every board I get on

>>90191066
99% of the people on other boards don't even know /co/ exists. Get real.

>>90193712
The funniest part about cuck is that it's very surely replacing the word fag in people's minds here. I rarely see people using fag but I see cuck everywhere. It's only a matter of time until we see cuck replacing fag in real life.

>>90177977
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the best cape show on TV. I've yet to see Legion so that might change.

DCEU fans are the narutofags of /co/. And I say this as someone who enjoyed Man of Steel.

The Flintstones and The Kamandi Challenge is the only current comics I'm reading. I love them. But I don't know what else I should check out.

Russo Brothers > Joss Whedon.

Jed Whedon > Joss Whedon.

I believe comics are the most underrated medium. And as much as I love them, cape comics are the reason for it not being as well-regarded.

Road to Perdition is my favorite comic book movie.

The Amazing World of Gumball is the funniest show on TV.

Johns' JSA is my favorite run.

Kyle Rayner is the best Lantern.

Bendis used to be good.

I deliberately go into /a/ vs /co/ threads just to say there's no difference between manga and comics.

The Vision is my favorite superhero. Harvey Pekar is my favorite comic character in general.

I think Jack Kirby's best works are Fantastic Four, New Gods and Kamandi.

I miss Moebius.

The Lego Movie Universe > MCU and DCEU

The Lone Ranger from 2013 is underrated.

>>90183826
Yes. For a postmodernistic cartoon, they were great.

>>90191331
This guy knows what's up. They look relatively pretty though.

I feel like /co/ only likes stories where some gritty asshole monologues about how he's better than everyone else, from Spider-Jerusalem to the Punisher.

>>90191062
>Gravity Falls was actually really good
This is probably the worst offender desu, that cartoon is mediocre and much worse than some of the things you dislike.

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>>90177977
Rebirth is horrible and one of the worst things to happen to the industry in over a decade.

It's not just the fact that it's bland as all fuck, it's not the fact that there's very little actual talent spread around the titles, it's not just the fact that they're doing a stupid cash grab crossover with Watchmen.

The biggest problem is how autistic it's fans re. If you want to criticize anything DC is doing right now you immediately get called a shill or marvelfag and while it was funny to be called that at first seeing as how I've always preferred DC over Marvel and loathed Marvel as a company, it's just become boring now. It's sad to see how Superman fans are such bullies and only reply with "you're just a superbro fag go die like him lol" if you express a negative opinion on him. It's sad to see such infighting with at Dc and it's incredible that some people truly believe DC will continue "dominating" the market for the next 10 years despite the fact that Marvel has been on top for 30, oh but this time it'll change, things are going to remain like this and Marvel is FINISHED!

There's a lack of fresh voices at DC right now. I mean come on... Dixon on a Bane maxi series?

It's amazing to see people excited about the Watchmen crossover when so many were against Before Watchmen. What the fuck's wrong with you people?

PS fuck Johns

Steven Universe is pretty trash. It's okay with a couple of good parts. It's not very interesting and the townie episodes are fucking horrible. Just inconsistent writing.

Uncle Grandpa was always funny. Not really laugh out loud material but just fascinating with all the visual gags.

Gumball is the best cartoon on television at the moment. Funny as hell and just enjoyable. I can't think of a cartoon other than Spongebob that's so accessible and easy to get into.

Spongebob has not always been bad since the first movie. Goodbye Krabby Patty was a fantastic episode.

The Lego Movies are some of the best animated material I've ever seen. Perfect writing.

Star Vs The Forces Of Evil is a pretty enjoyable cartoon. Even the shit episodes don't make me mad. It's not great, but it's insanely relaxing and interesting.

Adventure Time was always good except for season 6, fuck season 6

Teen Titans Go is awesome but it does get played too much and when it has a bad episode that episode is painful.

Horse show is pretty alright. It's sweet and strangely charming.

Wreck It Ralph is better than Zootopia by a smidge and the best Disney cartoon this decade.

The Loud House is fucking garbage and the most overrated cartoon ever. It's sweet occasionally but saying it's funny is a fucking lie. I maybe cracked one smile over 4 episodes.

Regular Show is one of the best and consistent cartoons ever made. I'd put it up with Avatar, Gravity Falls, South Park, Futurama, and Spongebob.

12 oz Mouse is one of the best TV shows I have ever seen

Comics are barely good and almost all capeshit is garbage, barring a few exceptions.

Pacifica is overrated.

Star vs. is a piece of trash only idiots with no taste and waifufags (but I repeat myself) can enjoy.

I genuinely have come to loathe /co/ and come here anymore only to shitpost.

>>90191971
I wish these opinions weren't unpopular in the first place.

>>90189841
>Young Justice was extremely dull
This. A hundred times this. I don't get people's infatuation with that series at all. This is coming from someone who is a huge DCfag and is a big fan of a lot of their other cartoons. YJ just didn't do anything for me, and in fact, I found it poorly written, with some questionable voice acting here and there, and the fights were never really all that good, coming from the excellently animated and choreographed fight scenes that are the rule in DC animation, generally.

I'm sorta happy that we're getting a third season, if only because it means that DC isn't forgetting about their action cartoons and I hope it's an improvement over the first two seasons, but I'm not expecting much, really.

>>90183218
There's plenty of legitimate criticism of its pacing and focus to go around, but the actual venom is overwhelmingly a tribal conflict more than anything in the show itself.

>>90177977
I liked Baron's and Messner-Loebs Flash more then Waid's.

>>90188944
>and part just wanting some closure.

To be honest, I think most of it comes from this.

>>90184029
>People who say "Comics have always been political!" are autists incapable of recognizing that the issue is the blunt, stupid way they present their politics lately

All of the "politicizing entertainment" arguments ever since a certain shitstorm boil down to "politics" meaning anything from having any opinion on anything to lecturing the audience about sex-change tariffs. It's an unwinnable debate for the same reason nobody can agree exactly how much ass is too much ass.

>>90185004
/mlp/ had a good reason for existing when it did, but the "crisis" is long past and anyone who still gets legit mad about ponies is dumb and needs to get over themselves.

>>90191066
I genuinely don't get why /co/ is uniquely hated, it's not /pol/ but it's not exactly the pronoun-sensitive hugbox everyone says it is.

The best political discussions on this site happen in political cartoon and Boondocks/Static Shock threads.

>>90188935
Yes, but /mlp/ was made because people got really fucking mad, while /vp/ was more along the lines of "huh, Pokemon gets its own board now." Pokemon threads still appear on /v/ not too rarely.

/v/ did get pretty impatient with generals and /vg/ was made to deal with that, but at this point /vg/ exists to protect itself from /v/.

There is nothing wrong with the DC/Watchmen crossover.

>>90188785
>Avatar book 1 is meh

It's still very above-average especially relative to other cartoons 2005-2008, but it wasn't until season 2 when it went from that cool thing my TiVo accidentally recorded to my favorite thing pre-late middle school anime phase.

/pol/tards ruined /co/. You can't post anything with a female or minority main character without spergs ranting about RRREEEEEE muh tumblr boogieman SJW numale cuck cuck cuck

>>90196401
I don't think it's quite that bad.

>>90183950
> Hawaiian pizza is the best pizza

Your opinion sucks

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i really do miss Mcdonalds Mishaps/Fuck My Life- a a funny colorful diary comic by some faggot asian. its one of the only diary comics i actually liked
but i know and respect hes moved onto greater things and lost interest/ has no time

Almost all the new 52 was fucking great.
I concede that I may be bias as it set me off reading DC on a regular basis however I have read lots of pre new 52 stuff since then and I'm really not seeing that big of a difference. Especially related to Superman.

>>90195905
Agreed.

>>90196508
The actual answer is that whoever the faggot who keeps sperging out about /pol/ in every thread is the one who ruined /co/

I've seen more mentions of /pol/ in the past couple of days than in the past month, it's like we're being raided or something

Mera is the best wife in comics.
Fuck Lois & Jane.

Over the Garden Wall's writing was a let-down.

>>90190878
Your entire post sums up why those threads aren't allowed

> Scar Jo looks plenty like the 95 Major.
> Scar Jo is a genuinely good actress, scene with her saying goodbye to a loved one in Lucy was subtle but potent as fuck.
> Nat & Bruce's scene at the farm in AOU was among the greatest emotional moments in the mcu.

>>90195905
There is everything wrong about a DC/Watchmen crossover.

Although I honestly wouldn't mind a straight up sequel written by Alan Moore or Grant Morrison.

>>90183146

While I agree politics and comics have always been intertwined, being a reflection of our culture, doing it badly is worse than not doing it at all.

>>90183861

A high tide raises every boat. On the flipside, every bad movie I feel hurts the whole comic movie industry.

>>90188356
>>90193594
Describe why

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>>90185833

>Vic Mackey

>morally ambigious

Are you high? He was a straight up villain protagonist.

I dropped Y: The last man after an issue or two.

>>90188785

>Allow the horse show, ban live action.

I can actually get behind that.

>>90196912
There's just as much people bringing up trump and divisive political issues

>>90190878

They get sent to trash because every LH thread becames a circle-jerk of people arguing over which sister they want to fuck.

I'm always right there in the trenches.

>>90177977
I appreciate the Robin mantle and that it gives a human element to batman, even though I know it's just lazy writing and there are better ways to give a human elements to batman, that the issue holding that back is the temptation of falling back on the robin mantle to do the work.

None of the crop of live-action cape shows are any goddamned good.

You've just been desperate for ones that are even remotely close to the comics, that you'll accept anything.

They all started out flawed, and progressive seasons make the flaws larger and more apparent, so more people are starting to notice.

>>90188540
ew.

Transmetropolitan is boring

Allow generals back into /co/ regardless of when the show is currently airing or not, this is the comics and cartoons board for a reason

I hate politics in modern comics because it's basically just the author using a character as a mouthpiece. There's a difference between Captain America promoting freedom of speech and Spider-Man telling people not to catcall.

>>90197365
> Scar Jo is a genuinely good actress, scene with her saying goodbye to a loved one in Lucy was subtle but potent as fuck.
Noooo way dude. It baffles me that anybody could think she's a good actress in anything ever. Her line delivery is garbage, her face barely emotes, she's like a robot in everything she's in. She's not even hot.

>>90177977
/co/ is now /pol/ and it's LITERALLY the comic industry's fault.

>>90202544
>it's basically just the author using a character as a mouthpiece
I can agree there's an unfortunate amount of that going on these days.

>There's a difference between Captain America promoting freedom of speech and Spider-Man telling people not to catcall.
Okay, I don't necessarily disagree but that statement can't go unqualified. Explain how.

>>90203832
It's mostly Marvel's fault.

>>90177977
Out of the Shadows is the best TMNT movie and the movie designs are great.

>>90177977
I just realized the villain from Genndy's CAGE! Was based on Dr. Seuss
Should I feel like an idiot for this.

Kingdom Come is a boring and overblown masturbatory session.

>>90189675
/qst/ was a board that needed to be made. It's a pity it's a blue board, though.

I desperately fucking want a Ghost in the Shell comic drawn by Marco Checchetto.

Teen Titans Go doesn't deserves all the hate it gets.

The original Teen Titans show and Young Justice are boring.

I wish WB milk hard the Arkham franchise, Ubisoft or EA style, i love those games, and i wouldn't mind a yearly relase.

>>90189675
where did this joke originate?

Razer and Aya ruined GL:TAS, particularly in the second half of the season.

>>90187288
>Swans sucked ever since Swans are Dead.

FTFY

I enjoyed Act 5 Part 2 of Homestuck, and I think it's one of the best acts in the webcomic.

vriskagram was a mistake and the only good thing to come out of it was the use of moonsettler, which was mistreated for a good song

Toph should have been a cute shota boy

or at least the tomboy elements should have been played up more

her hair and voice were still way too girly