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>>90126665
OP made it while 4chan was fucked and you couldn't post images. Gimme a minute and I'll do the storytime now that we can.
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>>90125836
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I'll be straight with you guys, Bendis is about to stretch out like 4 pages worth of content into ~15 pages, but that's Bendis for you.

Stick around until the end though because there is a fucking DOOZY you won't want to miss.
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>>90126987
digging the artist
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>>90126987
>Director Hill
Wasn't she fired and replaced?
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>>90127037
Bendis is the king of decompression. The first like dozen issues will probably all still be taking place immediately after CWII. Remember that he didn't finish his Original Sin tie-in until Secret Wars was about to start, and that whole arc was undone via time-travel.
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>>90127010
>Hello, Mother.
>Who ARE you?
????
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How the fuck is Ben even relevant?
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>>90127041
Is this comic ignoring Triumph and Torment? It better not be.
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Jesus christ this is like Bendis speak 101

He's not even spacing it out with some actual dialog now
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>>90127101
Bendis did a poorly done acknowledgment that he's read Triumph and Torment in the first issue. But it's still Bendis.
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>>90127049
Why is Doom's reaction not "I SAW YOUR SOUL GO TO HEAVEN AFTER I FREED YOU FROM HELL"?
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>>90127122

>I don't have a phone

It's nice to see Doom actually be intelligent.
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>>90127108
It's classic Bendis. Most of the issue is extreme decompression padding things out until he does a last page that gets talked about, causing it to seem like more happened than actually did.
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>>90127103
Really? They just leave her without asking her anything else? Just like that?
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>The Maker fucked Doom's mom
AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH BRAVO REED
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>>90127122
>For the first time since I was a young man
FUCK YOU BENDIS, YOU REALLY ARE IGNORING TRIUMPH AND TORMENT AREN'T YOU?
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>>90127179
>mfw

IS HE NOT JOBBING? WHY IS HE EVEN HERE?
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>>90127167
To be fair he has close to a thousand years on her
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>>90127167
>spoilers that one
>>90127179
>doesn't spoiler this one

For what purpose?
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>>90127167
THIS IS ALL RICHARDS' FAULT! RICHAAAAAAAAAAARDS!
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>>90127214
That cover has been solicited for 3 months now. That ain't a spoiler.
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>Latveria
>Ever not a perfect land ruled by Doom
>Kristoff or someone else not acting immediately after Shield starts this shit

What the fuck happened to Latveria? I thought Reed remade it made like it was before for Vic
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>>90127235
After Victor got his face fixed, he decided to give Latveria back to the people, went to his military leaders and told them to ensure a peaceful transition and a number of people he said to seek out for leadership positions then fucked off to look in mirrors and fuck with Tony Stark.

Latveria almost instantly collapsed into civil war the second he left.
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>>90127167
>>RIIIIICHHHHHAAARRRRDDSSSS!!!!
>>"I believe the term you're looking for...is DADDY"
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>>90127276
that's really dumb
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>>90127167
the maker and richards are different people?
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>>90127232

Why the fuck is he even here?

Why would he be fucking with this version of Doom? It isn't like he can uncuck himself through transitive property of fucking Doom's mom.
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>>90127346
Maker is 1610 Reed who survived the restart 616 Reed did after Secret War

>>90127355
It's Bendis. Given that he probalby can't use regular Reed to do some dumb Reed vs Doom story, he's left with Maker
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>>90127346
The Maker is Ultimate Reed.
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>>90127101
Ehhhhhhhhhh, there are still some errors, but I can think of a few ways that this doesn't mess with that.
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>>90127374

I mean, it kinda makes sense:

>Let's get Reformed Doom to fight Evil Reed.

What doesn't make sense is why. She's obviously a clone, because that's the Maker's shtick. But why fuck with Doom? He gave up Latveria, he's basically working as a rogue element, and he isn't even the 1610 version of Doom.

Is it just Reed being drawn to fuck with Doom like he did in Ultimate FF?
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>>90127167
THE MADMAN HOLY SHIT

This reminds me of an elseworld where Lex went back in time to fuck supermans mum before krypton blew up. His reasoning being that superman will never dare to hurt his dad, making it easier to kill him.
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>>90127167
Calling it now, it's a clone of his mother.

Honestly, that is the best way this can go down without anyone getting angry.
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>>90127438

>dude who has had entire armies of clones previously
>"I bet it's a clone!"

No shit, it'd be surprising if it wasn't.
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>>90127374
>>90127376
thanks for helping me understand it a little better
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The Maker versus Doom is almost enough of a twist to get me to buy a Marvel comic series again.


Almost.


I have to admit, I am intrigued.
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>>90127471

Problem.

It's Bendis, not Hickman.

Both times Hickman has been with Evil Reed, it's been fucking great. But I've got no faith in anyone using him.
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>>90127412
Well, his stated goal in New Avengers was that he was trying to gather up all the super-geniuses he could to be forced into helping him create his Ultimate Universe, a singular super-universe made from fusing all the universes together.

Makes sense that he would want Doom's help given his intellect, but would clearly be wary of him considering his period of time on Battleworld and history with Van Damme.
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>>90127455
They weren't an army of clones. They were an army of genetically perfect post-humans developed through a thousand years of eugenics in his hyperbolic timechamber that held The City.
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>>90127502
Ewing can write Maker well.

Is he showing up for Eternity War? It would seem logical given he's sliced into a multiversal amount of himself and it'd give him a good excuse to combine together
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>>90127540
Maker will be in Ultimates, it was confirmed in a teaser.
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>>90127517

Wouldn't it just be easier to reform the Council of Reeds because Molecule-Man accidentally put a Maker in every continuum?

>>90127539

Right, clones. Genetically modified, and peerless, but they were still clones from the same genetic stock that he had refined over centuries to create the Children.
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>>90127540
The "Coming this year in the Ultimates^2" teased him showing up there. He's definitely still a factor in Ewing's Eternity War story.
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>>90127560
Each Maker is doing this in their own universe. They're working together as a singular whole.
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>>90127089
Hang the fuck on, wasnt dugan a robot who was killed of?
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>>90127438
If Bendis is respecting what Ewing did with Maker then one of the other Maker slices could probably have sent her from an alternate reality where she never died
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>>90127629
Fury made a bunch of replacement Dugan LMDs. Once one doing LMD dies, the next one just wakes up and takes his place. The real Dugan is basically in stasis with his brainwaves being used for the LMDs. You'd have to kill the original Dugan to stop the constantly respawning Dugan LMD army.
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>>90127629
He was a series of LMDs and they thought the original was dead, and he was fucked in that every time an LMD Dugan died another one was activated, so he could never escape his hellish existence as a soulless robot

But then Ewing had the New Avengers find the original Dugan in suspended animation
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>>90127681
>>90127672
But didnt Fury make the robot Dugan because the original died, if he was alive why didnt he just use the real one?
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>>90127764
Lethal injury. Had to put him in stasis to save him. Uses his LMD factory to let him live on indefinitely. Explains why he hasn't really aged despite having never taken the Infinity Formula.
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>>90127316
it is realistic
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>>90127167

That literal motherfucker!
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>>90127122
New Doom is that guy who mentions something in passing and then waits for you to ask about it to get attention.
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>>90127074
I think the first one is Doom being sardonic and then he thinks it's a fake so he wants to know who's pretending to be his mom.
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>>90127132
Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed off by this poor excuse too
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That ending was fucking aces. Bendis is doing really well with this series and I'm probably going to buy the TPB when it comes out....maybe.
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>>90129989
>That ending was fucking aces
I thought her name was Cynthia.
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>>90127041
>Toppled the monarchy that killed her
>Mastered science and the mystic arts
>Saved her from Hell
>Got out of Hell, twice
>Became God, three times
>Saved all of existence from extra-dimensional action figures
You'd think she would have been just a little proud of him before.
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>>90127167
something Bendis wrote actually made me smile
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Alright thread. If you were going to make a team intended to legitimize "redeemed" rogues Who do you gather alongside Doom/Iron Man, SpOck, and Sabertooth? The team wouldn't need to be exclusively comprised of character that fit the archetype, but who do put together with them?
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>>90130482
Magneto
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>>90130482
So the Thunderbolts?
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>>90130561
Oh shit, yeah. Great call.
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>>90127412
>She's obviously a clone, because that's the Maker's shtick.
his new thing is to gather people from alternate universes
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>>90130592
Not necessarily. I always thought the Thunderbolts was more like the Suicide Squad in that they were being leveraged against their will to provide benefit to whomever was calling the shots. in this case, I mean characters doing good for not reason that their own volition. Ock saw the benefit of righteousness before being outkeikaku'd by Osborn and giving control of the body back to Pete. Doom has seen the folly of the endless pursuit of power and how the pursuit of power will never satisfy him even once he has absolute power and that perhaps there is an alternative to doing things as he always has. Vic was admittedly turned against his good will by the inversion, but even he realized a remorse for all the bad he's done of the years, and I think Magneto and Scott became mirrors to see themselves in, before realizing the other might not have been as wrong as they initially thought.
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>>90127089
so much reused artwork on this page
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>>90127460
whats better is he currently exist across all universes at the moment thanks to molecule man so this isnt even the grand scheme of things
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>>90127132
could do without the first panel
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>>90130713
>I always thought the Thunderbolts was more like the Suicide Squad
Yes, a lot of people who were under the impression that Ellis created the Thunderbolts when he turned them into the Suicide Squad seem to think that.

However, it's not the case.
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>>90127183
I think hes saying since he last saw her alive and you know not burning in hell.
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>>90127103
Couldn't they just send one guy? Why a whole squad just to ask her a question?
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>>90131479
When Doom is involved, better safe than sorry.
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>>90131479
> *ZZZZZAP*
> "Tom sure is taking his time, someone go check on him"
>*ZZZAP*
> " man, now Mike is taking forever"
>" Lets keep sending guys in there one at a time "


she has ties to Doom ,send a whole army
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>>90127167
How did Maker even manage this?
>Hey, come back to life and help me fuck with your son
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>>90127214
I can't believe Bendis is actually setting up this Maker confrontation, rather than shoving him in without explanation in a couple months.
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>>90127412
>>90127438
>>90127455
>Expecting logic and continuity
>In a book written by Bendis
Y'all dun fucked up
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>>90131786
The maker is the backbone of this entire marvel run
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>>90131581
>>90131584
It's not like 10 guys are going to do better than just one against Doom.
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My theory is that Cynthia is gonna turn out to be Morgana LeFay fucking with Doom. Bendis is obsessed with that one Iron Man/Doom Camelot story, it's the only old comic he'll ever repeatedly reference.
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>>90132043
still assuring knowing that you dont die alone
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>>90131046
Holy shit.

Source for this? first time seeing it
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>>90132277
New Avengers.
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>>90127167
Holy fuck this is going to break Doom
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>>90127167
Ray Romano fucked Doom's mom?
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>>90127089
Wha? Where's Pichelli's sexy Dugan?
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>>90127061
I was hoping it would mean something for Tempus because she's the only one who remembers what happened and she seemed to be turning full villain, but she hasn't appeared since because whatever.
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Infamous Iron Bump
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>>90127167
The Maker brought over Doom's mom from another dimension just to fuck with Doom.
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>>90126977
>>90126987
>>90126997
>>90127010
Say, what would actually happen if Ben lost his rock skin? Would he actually die, or just be less durable?
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>>90127132
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>>90127167
Maker's new thing is alt-dimensions. Thus, this must be an alternative Cynthia.
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>>90125836
,l
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Benis?
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>>90132277
>Not reading Ewing´s New Avengers
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>>90131046
Is this implying that Maker is the one to put Eternity in chains, or am I just reading too much into it?

Also, while it doesn't really make sense to put a Maker in every universe since he's not even as smart as any of the top 10 in 616, I can definitely see Reece doing it just to entertain himself by the keikakus.
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>>90135719
No, Molecular Man is the one who put Eternity in "chains" because he "stole" its role
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>>90135788
Wait, where did this come from? New Avengers? I thought we didn't knew yet who was it that put Eternity in chains.
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>>90131046
Eternity crying like a little bitch, never thought I will live to see this day
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>>90135856
We don't.
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>>90135788
>Molecular Man is the one who put Eternity
No, it says "he was already in chains". Right now the cosmic hierarchy in Marvel isn't set in stone due to the universe being reborn, every cosmic entity is as strong as the other one, with the sole exception of Reece being the strongest.
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>>90132781
The life of a dimension traveling sports news writer, of course he gets all the hoes
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>>90136070
Does TOAA count as a cosmic entity? Because then Reece is not the strongest.

That being said, beyond the OAA looking like a hobo and Reece like a silver age character, I don't really know what's the difference in their power sets, since they both can make and destroy anything by just thinking it.
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>>90127041
>>90127101
>>90130347

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I hate you Bendis.
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>>90131069
No, it works, as it clearly brings us back to the point when Ben was telling the story and before he passed out. There is a lot of rubbish here, but this is fine.
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>>90136753
>Does TOAA count as a cosmic entity?
Not anymore.
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>>90137548
Considering it was the only one with enough power to turn Warlock into the LT, I'm pretty sure it does.
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>>90137588
Fuck. Nevermind. I mixed up the Living Tribunal with TOAA
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>>90131695
He has a really impressive dick.
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>>90127179
Two of the greatest minds from any marvel universe about to clash. Exciting
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Remember last time they met?

Neither does Vic
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>>90139410
>Hey, wanna know why they call me Mister Fantastic?
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>>90136070
>every cosmic entity is as strong as the other one
You'd think The In-Betweener and Galactus would have put up a better fight, then.
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>>90127033
I hate how low the mouth is on his armor, it's so stupid looking
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>>90127041
>>90127049
This is so fucking awful, i hope nobody reads this. Escpecially at Marvel
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>>90127167
Is this The Maker or just Reed Richards?
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>>90127079
>government agent throws an unsupervised hissy fit in a foreign country destroying priceless artifacts
>gets a boo boo
>government agency is then supposedly allowed to invade the country with armed forces and arrest people under entirely different pretenses

Bendis is a child

>>90127089
This page is fucking infuriating
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>>90127167
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>90139816
>In-Betweener
Caught by surprise.

>Galactus
But he did defeat them when they were normal. Logos, though, is a fusion of three cosmic entities, so if everyone's powerlevels were about 1 post-reset, his would be about 3.
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>>90127132
This page reads like a punchline and is actually pretty fucking funny desu
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>>90140140
I'm not buying it. Galactus absolutely devastated Master Order and Lord Chaos, and I refuse to believe that Ulysses' mighty power of 10% accurate predictions puts him on the same level as these guys.
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>>90140121
On the other hand, Hill is a huge tryhard; that seems like something she'd sanction. Ben's behavior in the Latverian Embassy was inexcusable, however.
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>>90140283
Until we see Ulysses being used again by someone, he's as relevant as the Stranger. As in, not at all, and just a poor excuse for Bendis to Poochie him out of the way at the end.

Best case scenario, he ends up being FuryWatcher's boss.
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>>90140415

Ewing wrote the Ulysses mini for Civil War 2 and is now doing Inhumans IN SPACE. it's only a matter of time before Ulysses comes back on the stage.
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>>90135719
>since he's not even as smart as any of the top 10 in 616
Didn't Maker do all sorts of crazy fucking enhancements and hyperbolic time chamber bullshit that makes him not just several times, but exponentially smarter than anyone in 616? Isn't his fucking powerlevel and his capabilities off the charts? Guy could probably take on a lot of alien civilizations in 616 with a little prep via The City.
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>>90140514
He explained in New Avengers that, since the laws of physics are a little different in every universe, he's not as smart outside of the Ultimate Universe. And he got repeatedly out-keikaku'd by da Costa and co.
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>>90140514
But that's the thing, with his hyperbolic chamber bullshit, he doesn't need to be as smart as the top10 in 616, since he can have as much time as he needs to figure out something that they could in a short time span.
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>>90140112
The Maker. His dialogue uses the ultimate font.
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>>90140666
I doubt they'll let him get away with that kind of crazy shit he pulled back in the Ultimate Universe, Satan. No time dilation, no putting Europe under a dome, no dethroning the gods, no making Cosmic Cubes, no teleporting an anti-matter bomb into D.C., no whatever-you-call-this.
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bump for Maker madman
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>entire issue is filler except for the last page
Bravo Bendis.
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>>90130482
Zemo has been trying for a while. Venom is quite experienced at trying to be good. Scorcher from Secret War to Dark Reign tried it. Also The Plunderer as Squirrel Girl has almost gotten him to go straight right?
Ok so what do we do with this team? It's got some heavy hitters in it but mostly it's just above street level guys.
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>>90144375
>Zemo
Anon, he was leading The Masters of Evil in the Thunderbolts issue that came out today.
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>>90127167
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>>90130482
Is Carnage still trying to be a hero?
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>>90145433
No. In fact, for most of his latest book he was trying to summon not-Cthulhu to end the world.
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>>90145433
Carnageman is too pure for this world.
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>>90145833
Did Pete ever end up erecting that statue he promised Carnage?
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>>90127132

why did I laugh? this was supposed to be a serious page.
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>>90146142
Because it's funny.
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>>90127167
>Did you mention my name?
How would that even come up in conversation?
>Hi, sweetie, I'm back from Heaven. By the way, I'm getting plowed by Reed Richards.
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>>90127167
I wonder if Alt-Cynthia is into how he comes in slices
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>>90147934
Maybe they roleplay.
>Hey, did somebody order a pizza?
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>>90140514
he didn't get to bring The City with him. he did bring a chunk of its old computer but it got kind of sassy with him.

however, it seems he has access to an entire Council of Ult Reeds. Molecule Man seeded the multiverse with Maker slices. a bunch of them are working together.
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>>90135719
Maker is the smartest guy in every universe. Beyond regular reed or moon girl.
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>>90148322
Maker could literally go to cosmic war with say Asgard and win.
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>>90148322
It's not just his intelligence, it's his drive. The Maker /does/ things, he doesn't just sit around, placidly waiting for for something to react to.

While everyone else is running around in their rainbow power-armor onesies, punching each other because who fucking cares, he's actually doing something constructing (from his point of view, anyways).
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>>90148322
>Maker is the smartest guy in every universe
Uh-huh.
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>>90148322
>Maker is the smartest guy in every universe, barring 616

No.

>>90148518
>It's not just his intelligence, it's his drive.

This is right, though.
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>>90127167
Ha get fucked dooms mom
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>>90135719
it seems like Maker is taking a moral objectivist approach to waging war against what chained Eternity. he's mentioned that every one f his slices is studying the universe they landed in and arming themself with its superweapons, superscience, and supersoldiers
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>>90127355
Well, he is aware that Doom was God.
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>>90135185
Ultimate Thing became a normal looking human with the ability to give himself Thing-like toughness and strength via an energy carapace

616 Ben would probably just get infections in his exposed muscles
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>>90127167
>Richards is cucking Doom out of his mom
HOLY SHIT BENDIS WAT
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Man i wish Bendis wasn't the one doing Doom trying to be good vs Evil Reed

Reed fucking Doom's mom though, perfection
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>>90127644
Ewing's Maker was generally a fuckwit. When U Reed went rogue, his MO was to build a base of absolute scientific power and rain havoc on peons.
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>>90140869
Does Miles use the Ultimate font, too?
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>>90135719
You don't need to be the smartest guy in the room when you exist across all rooms in time and space. An earlier introduction even admitted he was still learning the universal laws of each universe he was in since each vary. He also brought a god from another universe to see what happened when it interacted with this universes god. His learning scale is rapidly outpacing 616 since there are so many of him across universes with the same goal in mind. Which would be mashing everything together into a ...now stay with me now because I can't find the page but......"Ultimate Universe"
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>>90153653
Not anymore. His integration into the main universe was different.
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>>90147309
U Reed is clearly the reason that Doom's mother is alive/in this dimension and she is apparently fucking him, so he is a pretty big part of her life.
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I fucking lost it at that last page. That's the funniest thing I've seen happen to Doom in a while
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