If one only tells the truth and one only tells lies, why not

>>90085661
god dammit

>>90085661
you should write a show

>>90085661
...huh.

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>>90085661
it cant be that easy....can it?

>>90085661
Aren't you typically only allowed to ask one question?

>>90085661
What you should ask is what's 1+1.

Because you're not supposed to figure out who tells the truth and who lies, you're supposed to figure out which one is the magic worm. And you only get one question.

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.... Shit

>>90085838
this, you're wasting your question

>>90085838
Yes, that's usually the case, so you wouldn't go "What's my name?" and then follow it up with the real question.

This is a logic puzzle with a pretty simple solution though.

>>90085661
They may answer with a riddle or something instead of straight. Something like "the number of corn stalks in that field yonder divided by a hundred" and the other "no, the number of corn cobs there divided by a thousand" and you're not about to go count that shit. Or they could do that trick with something impossible to count like grains of sand or stars in the sky.

Why not just show them your dick, and the one who says "No, he's definitely not flashing is dick at us." is the one who's lying.

>>90085661
DEADPOOL?!

>>90085661
For those of you that don't know the solution, you simply ask one "What would the other guy say is the answer?" And then you do the opposite of what he says. The Liar will tell you the opposite of what the answer is, and the Honest one will tell you the lie that the liar would tell you. Assuming there are only two choices, otherwise this won't work.

>>90085838
That is one question.

It's funny that this is a classic conundrum and that the "right" question is always "which one would the other one say is the truthful one". But in reality is is easily thwarted by simple observation. Like "am I holding my right arm up?" or "is your hair black?". True, the "correct" answer is universal, but it is only really relevant if there is nothing to observe.

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>>90085661
Holy fucking shit you should write for Futurama.

>>90086086
But what about >>90085851?

>>90085661
i would say something about personal truth being different from fact, but they can SEE your fingers, so never mind

>>90085661
How hard is my dick?

>>90086138
But if it was established at the start that the true Magic Worm is the one that tells the truth, then the point stands.

>>90085661
because you only get one question and if you waste it on simply determining which snake is which you've lost your only chance to know which door to pick

>>90085661
Weren't both of them just playing Jack to eat him?

>>90085661

What if they both say "I'm blind."?

>>90086211
It's not hard

>>90086241
How so?
Isn't determining which door to pic based entirely on figuring out which one is telling the truth?

>>90086286
If both say "I'm blind" then you're screwed.

>>90086221
Was it established that the magic worm tells the truth, though? I honestly don't remember.

>>90086345
You have to ask which door to pick.

>>90085726
>>90085784
>>90085798
You guys seriously never considered just asking them an objective question?

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>>90085661
What if the one who told you that one always tells the truth and one always tells lies is the liar?

>>90085661
Because it has to be a "yes or no" question

>>90086573
Then it would be solved with OP's question. Either way we figure out which one is the liar and which isn't. Or they're both liars. Or neither are.

Let him finish, Ricky!

>>90086603
"Am I holding up x amount of fingers?"

>>90085661
How much is two plus two?
>4
>6

>>90085661
you still wouldnt know which mouth has the wish

>>90086603
>Is the number of fingers I'm holding up two?

>>90086637

What if they answer in base 3?

>>90086221
>>90086369
it wasnt. it is possible that the worm that lies has the portal.

neither of the worms were magic and both were liars, dumbasses

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>>90085661

>>90086773
Then both would lie about the finger question, establishing that neither are magic. Riddle solved.

>>90086773
Jack didn't know that at the time faggot

>>90086808
Unless they want to keep the charade going then one would tell the truth just to fool you.

>>90086838
But they can't do that, because then they'd be telling the truth.

>>90086808
They lied about having to tell lies too. They can both tell truth or lies however they please, just like you and I.

>>90086915
Just because one is called a liar doesn't mean everything they say is a lie.

>>90086686
Usually when you answer in a base, you say what base you're answering in.

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>>90085661
>this thread
>43 replies
>everyone's logic dicking is meaningless because it's a con, both heads lie and tell truths as necessary to maintain the con.
I'll bet you all are the kind of faggot who thinks he can "figure out" and win the shell game too.

what season/episode is this again?

>>90085661
For the longest time I thought one head was a boy and the other was a girl. That was until I recently watched it again and heard them refer to eachother as brothers, must have missed that when I was younger.

Don't ask me why I thought that. Seen plenty of cartoons where duo headed characters had different genders.

You are not ain't not totally never not maybe actually ain't holding two fingers up.

>>90086976
>having shitty eyesight

Unless there's a trap door under the cups then most should be able to follow the shell with the ball or whatever under it as long as they focus.

>>90086976
You win the shell game by lifting all three shells at the same time in front of some one else, exposing the dealer as a fraud and watching the crowd tear him apart

>>90086927
>>90086943
Alright, then it's pointless. Jack is just dealing with two dickworms that do as they please.

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>>90087141
>He doesn't realize the crowd is in on it

>>90087232
Well yeah at the end of that they just ate him and revealed that the entire 'we grant wish' thing was a fuckin sham so they had easy access to free food.

I'm still mad the end of it didn't show Jack cutting his way out of them.

>>90087240
>the crowd is in on it
Well then you just kill them

>>90087133
No, the shell spinner can eject the ball into their lap with a flick of the wrist if they're quick and practiced enough. Alternately, if the inside of the shells isn't displayed to the player, the spinner can have the ball stick to the roof of the shell using magnets or some other contrivance. There are ways to cheat it without a trap door.

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>>90087133
>being this retarded
the bean leaves the table when the cups go down

>>90087240
what anime?

>>90087469
Boku no Pico

>>90087007

Jack Tales, S2E2.

Also the episode with the fairy and gargoyle, and the cannibal robot family.

>>90087469
WAIT works Anon.

>>90085661
I would ask them if they speak partially truth and partially lie.

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>>90087469
Gabriel Dropout

>>90087469
Gabriel Dropout

>>90087931
>>90087925
is it good?

>>90085661
You ask one worm who would the other worm say is the truth teller. The Liar will say that the other worm would name him the truth teller, while the real truth teller would say that the liar would call himself the truth teller.

>Falling for the most common hurdle of the riddle
It doesn't matter which one is the liar, only that one of them is

>>90087996
Kinda, for SoL comedy with super natural elements (angels and demons).

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But didn't both worms' throats lead to the same belly? Weren't they both lying?

>>90088054
yup, this thread is full of sperges who can't step back and understand that the rules presented are part of the lie.

>Star is voiced by Sue Heck
>Tom is voiced by Shaw Hunter
>Toffe is voiced by Dexter

this show just became twice as awesome for me

>>90085861
You ask one how many fingers you are holding up.
If the first one lies, you know the second one tells the truth, and just ask him what you want to know.
If it tells the truth and you know the second one lies just be tricky with the question.like, ask where something you are looking for is NOT.

Knock Knock

Didn't the Powerpuff Girls have an episode with a similar riddle? And didn't fans think they killed the real teacher on accident?

>>90087795
One says yes and the other no.

>>90088275
>just ask him what you want to know.

You get ONE question.

>>90088054
Jack should notice that since both explained rules and chatted with him before questions and if one lied all time and other told truth all time it would be impossible to even know that what stated.

A lot of samefagging in the first few posts as OP pats himself on the back.

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The solution is simple, the portal moves from one's esophagus to the other because they're connected, thus making it impossible to ever choose the right one.

>>90088459
I fucking hated this duel.

It's because they never specified whether or not the Liar or the Truth-teller was the wish-granter, and he was only allowed one question.

Unless he added an objective question about the wish, he'd never find out who would grant it for him.

>>90088484
>implying it wasn't the most kino duelist kingdom duel

>>90088484
fuck you i loved this duel

way better than that shit against the spooky kids in that cave

>>90088484
A lot of the duels in that arc were shit because they made up the rules to a currently non-existent card game as they went along.

>levitation ring.

>>90088509
What does that even mean?

>>90088547
I will shoot... THE MOON!

>>90088547
That was half the fun, the duels weren't just a commercial but relied on bullshit D&D logic.

>>90088558
/tv/ meme

>>90088509
>Tournament involves playing duel monsters.
>In order to get past these two, you pretty much have to play a different game because of that fucking labyrinth.

This tournament was bullshit.

>>90088171
>>90088054
We're discussing the logistics of the proposed riddle.

The fact that the riddle is a farce doesn't add a new dimension to the riddle or make it any more intelligent, it just means that the "correct" answer is slaughtering the evil monster trying to trick you.

Second, this is a REALLY shitty version of the riddle. The classical version of the riddle involves two statues and two doors. One door leads to your death the other to treasure. You only get one question, AND you can only ask ONE of the two statues, one of whom tells the truth and one who lies. So you CAN'T waste the question on an objective question figuring out who tells the truth and who lies, because then you don't have another question to ask which door you need to take.

The solution, ironically, doesn't even involve figuring out which tells the truth and which lies. It merely involves using a question where which one you ask will be irrelevant because they'll both return the same answer.

>>90088643
KING OF GAMES, not just King of Duel Monsters.

>>90088566
And then it became a card

>>90088658
But the tournament was based on just ONE game.

>>90088547
I seriously just want a compilation video of every ass-pull they had in that arc.

>>90085967
>he's flashing his dick at us!
>no! he's just showing us his pet worm!

>>90088653

>this is a REALLY shitty version of the riddle

>You only get one question, AND you can only ask ONE of the two statues

But that's exactly what the show does. Or rather, both worms do answer, but by the nature of the question, it doesn't matter who answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBEEBXsFeRk

>>90085967
>Why not just show them your dick

This is good advice for most situations.

>>90086973
Not if you answer in base 10

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>>90088670
everything becomes a card

>card gets unbanned
>make a card about it

>>90088833
The artwork will always be the best part of this game.

>>90088795
Oh so this is functionally identical to the original riddle, OP is just a faggot who is wrong.

>>90086437
What if you only get one question and you asking your objective question takes up your one chance?

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>>90088917
its pretty great

Usually it's not that the guy can only lie, it's that here most likely will.

>>90085661

>only allowed one question
>blow your question on finding out how many fingers you are holding up

>>90085661

HOW DOES HE GET OUT OF THE WORM'S BELLY?

>>90089000
I don't even know what half these cards are, but Gagagigo has had a hard life

>>90085661
>"how many fingers am I holding up?"
>put up a sign that says which is which
>put on a disguise

>>90086943
>>90089003
>One of us tells ONLY lies
>The other tells ONLY truths

Anyway, them saying the above alone means they're both liars, because BOTH of them stated what SHOULD be a truth, but at least one of them has to be a liar, so they can't both be telling the truth. Thus, they're both liars.

>One of us only tells the truth
>One of us only tells lies
>By asking only one question
>You must figure out who is the magic worm

How is asking about your number of fingers going to tell you who the magic worm is?

>>90089000
You're missing a few, Gagagigo's tale goes on.

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>>90089261

>One of us tells only truths
+
>One of us only tells lies
They can both lie
>The other tells only lies
Either that's the liar speaking with a play on words as to which other is being referenced, the other to himself or the other to the one of them telling the truth, or they can both lie.

Alternatively
>One of us tells only lies
+
>One of us tells only truths
They can both lie
>The other tells only truths
They can both lie

Incidentally, the line from the episode is

>One of us tells only lies
>The other tells only truths

>>90085967
Maybe the one that tells the truth is just brutally honest and says he doesn't see anything.

>>90088833
>>90089000
Will there ever be an anime about the world of the cards?

>>90087925
>>90087931
>>90087996
>>90088051

Can I get a few more opinion? Is it decent?

>>90088833
>>90088917

>Ban list joke made into a card. Amazing.

>>90093198
jesus anon, it's the cookie cutter cute-girls-doing-cute-things that EVERY season has. If you love that genre, you'll love it.

>>90086437
>>90085726
There is a movie, Caspar Hausser i think.. where they are testing his intelligence and they show him this problem. He just asks.. "are you a dog"? it's that simple.

In the original problem, however, you don't have that option because the question you ask must also make the person show you the right way.

>>90085661
>Which way is your village/which door would the other person tell me to go through
Is and always has been the answer, with the first version being you go down that path, and the second version being you go down the other.
Or in this case, ask which one would the other tell you tells the truth, and the person telling the truth will be the other person.
The liar will say the truth - teller will tell you the liar tells the truth, so the liar indicates himself, and and the truth-teller will indicate that the liar will indicate himself.
So whoever the person you ask points to is the liar.

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>>90085661
Like it fucking mattered.

You see two longass necks connect to the same body, don't indulge in this kind of bullshit

>>90088547
>You aging dark magician just turned it wiser!

>>90087240
didnt that actually happen in jojos bizzare adventure when they are against one guy in a desert place, and jojo wins because he is a good bluffer or some gay shit like that. everyone at the entire bar was in on the bad guy's game

>>90085838

You are only allowed to ask about the doors or the guardians. They won't answer if you asked a question like "how many fingers am I holding up?" .

>>90087141
No you idiot, pick a random ass one, then pick up the two cups before he can pick up the one.

If he picks up the remaining one, the jig is up, so he has to play along or not get fucked. Though, if the crowd is in on it all bets are off and you might as well just start punching people.

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>>90086786
>.gif doesn't loop

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>>90088333
Actually watched this today. Script error. Blossom figures out the logic behind the riddle but picks the wrong Keane regardless, and no one notices.

>>90097451
FOOLISH SAMURAI
YOU CAN'T GO BACK.

>>90085661
Which one told him the scenario?

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>>90085661

Holy Shit!

U cracked the code!

>One of us always lies and one always tells the truth
>Both of us always tell the truth
You don't even need to ask a question.

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>>90085661

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>>90085661

Hey moron the objective is to find out which one has the thing you want not to find out which one is a liar.

Retard.

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>>90085661
Little did you know, they're both liars.

>>90097902
The one that tells the truth is magical, duh.

>>90097959

Based on what?

>>90098004
Because good guys don't lie and eat people.

>>90088653
God I actually had to ruminate that one. I feel like a fucking rube.

Buuut I do feel better understanding the riddle.

>>90098004
the one who lies can just lie,it can just say whatever is in his mind,but to always,ALWAYS,tell the truth you have to always know the truth,unless saying i do not know is an option but they never said that is an option,it is implie that that is not an option

>>90097902
you can ask your question after knowing wich one is the lier,or do you have only one question?

>>90086086
I don't remember how the show did it but the typical scenario is that you're supposed to get information out of them with one question. Not just "which one is the liar", but which door holds the treasure, etc.

>>90098034
that doesn`t make it magical

>>90098190
All you have to do to get magic powers is never lie and eat people. The first time you tell a lie or eat a person you lose all magic. This is common knowledge.

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>>90089000
There's more cards as well.

>>90089277
You hold your hand up behind your back, duhhh. Magic worm is gonna magic know the answer cause he's magic

>>90086345
You're assuming that the truth teller must be defending the good door because "truth = good". At no point in these riddles is that claimed in most retellings, and in fact in the correct answer you do not actually find out which is the truth teller and which is the liar.

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>>90088566
>>90088547

Someone showed me a link once of houserules for similar silly shit in magic the gathering.

>>90085661
Jack is strong, yes? Kill them both. Pick the wrong door? Avoid the trap or defeat the ambush. Go back and pick the right door, probably do the same. Go back and find the hidden correct path, go on with your sword's journey. Everything is simple when overwhelming force is applied.

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>>90085661
The only right answer is to ask

Does the other worm know you are gay?

>>90098106

It doesn't matter who tells the truth at that point because neither head will answer any more questions.

You only get one. The point isn't to find who is who the point is to find the portal. You fucked yourself. The liar could easily have the portal and you wouldn't know because you only have one question