Whelp, mutants aren't going back to Marvel anytime soon now.

>>90025640
it'll go down the closer it gets to release day

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>>90025640
Good, if anything, muties and Avengers can't work correctly under the same universe.

But would that mean at least they get the F4 back at least?

I mean, maybe Feige can work his voodoo magic so that Fox stops another Trankt4astic from happening.

>RedditTomatoes

The memes came true. It's Capekino.

>>90025703
>muties and Avengers can't work correctly under the same universe.

t. casual

>>90025731
it never made any sense, Why does everyone hates the mutants but they are fine with other heroes ? even after the fact the mutants saved people time and time again

>>90025640
fox is stuck in a perpetual loop of xmen films where for every well made well performing movie they make the make one that sucks and no one cares about

>>90025640
Never say never. Both parties stand to make more money if they work together.

>>90025761
Racism doesn't make sense anon.

>>90025727
MEME MAGIC

What excuse will Snyderafgs have now when it's been proven that critics don't mindlessly hate serious superhero movies? They also like superhero movies that are not made by Disney.

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>>90025703
>this argument again

>>90025895
it is Fox

>>90025776
And they keep hiring Singer to make more turds.

>>90025895
they don't know what's Disney and what isn't they only know Marvel = good

>>90025926
Yet fox will misunderstand why this film worked and then try to meddle.

>>90025960
Not really, Fant4stic and Apocalypse got bad reviews.

>>90025761
If you actually read comics you'd know his has been answered dozens of times

but then you'd also know that other heroes are not universally loved either

>>90025761
Because of horror stories about child-mutants who can't control their powers.

Mutants are a threat from within. Like domestic terror.

>Conservatards freak out when they see women wearing Burqas but not when they see catholic nuns wearing nun robes.

>>90025944
to be fair the first two movies were fine, they were typical xmen plots with a movie budget. and DoFP was fun even but Apocalypse was way to ambitious to be handled the way to was.
his style is too low key and small for a big action move like that

>>90025640
Nobody wants muties back at Marvel. It's F4

>>90026052

Nuns don't really wear the habit anymore.

Also, fewer than 1% of Americans are muslim, half of those are women, and not all of them wear a veil.
(There are actually more Arabs in america than muslims, something like 75% are christian)

Meanwhile there are towns that are 99% white and christian ravaged by opioid addiction and prescription drug abuse that no one wants to comment on.

>>90026147
>It's F4

It's Galactus, Doctor Doom, and Silver Surfer, Marvel really wants.

>>90026052
Does it require training to be this retarded?

>>90025895
>critics
They died in the 20th century. Now we only have corporate employees that want to keep their "job."

>>90026052

catholic nuns don't traditionally greet you by literally blowing up in your face

>>90026222
>Doctor Doom
>in MCU
No thanks. I don't want to know how they would fuck him up.

>>90026356
>exploding nuns
Pythonesque.

>>90026052
I don't remember hearing about nuns getting stoned for not wearing a habit.

>>90025640
It's the Fantastic Four that people want the most anyway

>>90025971
if it actually works, and isnt just a "executives gave a standing ovation" type of thing.

>>90026147
i want it all back.

>>90026861
Suuure.

>>90025640
More like R-Rated Superhero Movies make the big bucks.

On the plus size, maybe this will get Marvel Studios thinking about making a R-Rated MCU movie.

>>90026989
>On the plus size, maybe this will get Marvel Studios thinking about making a R-Rated MCU movie.
They will never do that. KF wont want to do it as it would stray from the normie friendly formula and Disney wouldnt sanction it, that should have been evident with them gutting im2's demon in the bottle arc for the other shit. Hell Disney are so afraid to go out of the crowd pleaser that they wont allow smoking or good framing/editing in their films for fear of audiences not liking different stuff

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>>90025640
Good.

>Its a Fox embarasses Marvel yet agan episode

>>90027090
don't badmouth Marvel, you'll get banned

>Taking early reviews seriously

It's like you faggots never learn.

>>90027180
Fuck you, I've seen it. It's legitimately that good.

>>90027180
It's over 50 reviews in. It's pretty much set. It won't drop that hard.

>>90027201
>0.02 has been deposited into your account.

>>90025839
It makes lots of sense actually

>>90026356
Neither do muslims.

>>90027234

Oh fuck you, there's already legit spoilers from people who have clearly seen the film and have posted details on this board.

>>90026052
Someone remind me the last time a nun committed a mass shooting

>>90027234
I'm going to remember your post and laugh about in two weeks when /co/ sucks this movie's dick day and night.

>>90027248
t. Underage white boy in Idaho

>>90027221
50 no-name critics that Fox paid off.

>>90027221
yeah no

lego batman was at 98% with around 50 reviews you're not going to get the set score until it has about 100 reviews

>>90027301
>what is human nature

>>90027317
Now Fox is paying them?

Oh, my.

What a shocker.

I thought DC fans were tight with Fox fans.

>>90025761
Superheroes in general in Marvel are unappreciated and looked upon with scorn and suspicion.

>>90027341
>I'm not a dick, I'm just following mah nature!

>>90027317

At some point you're going to have to concede there's a consensus to its quality.

Sites that have no stake in RT or Fox have also given it similarly high reviews.

>>90027352
>looked upon with scorn and suspicion.

More like exhaustion. Critics have wanted superhero movies to be over with since like 2010.

>>90027378
Critics also like Ghostbusters and The Force Awakens. Consensus means nothing.

>>90027334
It's still in the 90s though.

As I said, it won't drop that hard.

>>90027412
>I don't have shit taste, every other human does
cool

>>90027412
Why do you always bring those movies up?

>>90027341
>racism is human nature
>REEE why are these blacks chimping out and acting violent

>>90027437
You're saying that the Ghostbusters reboot was a good movie?

Mutants don't fit in 616 anymore.

Everyone keeps going "reeeeeee Mutants!". Then they don't even bat an eye when an avenger, inhuman, or alien walks by.

>>90027301
Humans have never been tribal at any point in history in your mind apparently and I'm black actually but hey, you're a triggered idiot who doesn't like their world view challenged

>>90027372
Humans are always in a state of war, that is common.

>>90027459
no, strawtard

>>90027472
Wow so you're a racist cuck who wants to be black. Your racism makes sense now.. Its actually envy

>>90027473
>Stop getting along with those people who don't look like you
>You're going against your nature stooop
>KEK
>You're a KEK! IT"S HUMAN NATURE!

>>90027412
>Critics also like Ghostbusters

Top critics score is 59%.

All critics 73% critical and a 53% audience score.

So no, ghostbusters was not a doll with critics.

Go cry some more about the Force Awakens.

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>>90027472
>I'm black, believe me! sibboleth, sibboleth!

>>90027280
How about the last time the Catholic Church didn't care when its priests raped children?
You don't see people looking strangely at priests or churches, though.

>>90025703
But what would they do with F4? Just introduce them so they can use Mr. Fantastic?

Theyd probably do better with the casting.

>>90027555
make them old, like hank pym old.

then you can have grown Franklin and Valeria.

doom is cheating old age and Latveria is neighors with Sokovia. doom is also friends with wakanda and T'challa.

Namor and the Atlanteeans

Galactus

Skrulls

>>90027546
>Catholic Church didn't care when its priests raped children?

You mean how priests are statistically less likely to abuse children than public school teachers and how the church dealt with abusers in the manner that was deemed professionally appropriate at the time?

http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/
http://www.culturewars.com/2002/boston_ped.html

>>90025761
The bigger issue was always how heroes that work closely with the government are constantly oblivious to government action taken against mutants.

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>>90027526
You can kill yourself now

>>90025761
>Why does everyone hates the mutants but they are fine with other heroes
Do you know nothing of typical Marvel citizens?

>>90027607

The catholic church fucked themselves up their own assholes and deserved every bit of flack they got after the scandal broke.

The conspiracy approaches being almost as bad as the crime after a certain point.

>>90027666
>>90026049
Not him, but I never read many Marvel comics aside from Spidey/Cap.

I presume it's got something to do with Civil War or something right?

>>90027472
>>90027341
retard

>>90027596

Hmm interesting, I wonder how they'd actually introduce them at this stage of the game.

I would suggest they've been working behind the scenes or in a parallel dimension and only a select few knew about them. Like Hank Pym or Nick Fury.

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>>90027660

You can't fool me, Colonel.

>>90027747
Whatever you want to tell yourself, clearly I spray painted a tan on my hand in the span of minutes and left no residue just so I could pretend to be black. Yeah

>>90027742
i have an idea.

1969 - Reed Richards is a promising phd student and is recruited by SHIELD. They give him funding, and access to HYDRA research on tesseract and the tesseract. Reed develops a new propulsion drive for spacecraft.

In a parallel project, Victon von Doom is also working on a new spacecraft drive. Victor's slightly warps spacetime to have the craft "fall" in the direction space is warped. Too much tesseract energy was put into the test device. Reed seeing this tries to shut it down and save Victor. Reed was too late, the drive explodes in an overload due to no action of Reeds. Victor goes missing in the disaster. Thrown through the warp and into Mephisto's hell dimension. Where he is rescued by the Ancient One and taken to Karma-taj to train as a wizard.

1970 - Meanwhile Reed's drive was put on the Apollo 13 mission to test it. A special 4 man command capsule is constructed, with the experimental drive unit replacing the lander. Reed, astronauts Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm, and sheild agent Sue Storm are sent on the mission. The drive is activated and malfunctions. The ship finally stops outside the oort cloud. Where a cosmic radiation storm bombards them. Reed gets the drive working again and gets the Apollo 13 back to Earth. shield covers up the entire incident by faking a failure in the service module and then the apollo 13 going around the moon and back.

part 1/2

>>90025640
It doesn't matter if its good or bad, if people likes it or not, only matters how much money it makes. (When we are talking about rights returning to Marvel I mean)

>>90027835
part 2/2

1971 -Doom is still training at Karma-taj. The F4 have their powers. To get funding they work for SHIELD still, but they aren't happy about it. though after a few years they get fed up with the bullshit.

They start the Future Foundation, which is an advance science research and education non profit, and keep to private life. Franklin is born in 79. Doom is kicked out of Karam-taj in 81. He goes back to Latveria which is part of the Socialist Republic of Romania at the time. Doom fashions his first armor suit. Then he ejects the communists and declares Latveria and independent kingdom, and him self sovereign. Latveria is now the crossroads of the west, shield, hydra, and the communist. Doom's plots to exploit all this sometimes result get the F4 involved. One particular incident in 84 has a pregnant sue in Latveria. Where Doom uses magic to help deliver valeria. Doom becomes Valeria's godfather.

doom establishes diplomatic relations with wakand, befriends the king. is the first nation in history to do this since wakanda was discovered. though this doesn't do much, since Latveria is so closed up it self.

in 2000 Valeria runs away to Latveria to live with Doom. franklin frequently leaves the earth to handle extra dimension and cosmic threats. He has Galactus like a pet. The F4 and Franklin were off in space, trying to settle the Kree/Nova Corps conflict during the invasion of new york by Loki. the sokovian incident caused dust cloud to fall on Latveria and sent large numbers of Sokovian refugees to Latveria. Putting the Avengers on Doom's list.

most of the back story can be filled in on tie in comics, Agents of Shield, etc. Then we just have the present day and old F4 in a future movie.

maybe a netflix series. set during the 70s when they were super powered family adventurers working for shield.

>>90026430
Kony

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>>90027835
>>90027882

Yep, a Netflix series would be perfect.

>>90027882
A doctor doom series would actually be pretty interesting but I get the feeling most of it would be autistic screaming about Reed

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>>90026989
>More like R-Rated Superhero Movies make the big bucks.

no they d-

>On the plus size
>the plus size

>>90028024
R rated Captain Marvel.

tits and ass carol.

carol getting and giving brutal beatings.

lesbian sex scene

>>90027688
The Church didn't do anything public schools weren't doing at the time, and the problem in the church wasn't as extensive or as widespread. Where's the manufactured outrage against public schools? Why wasn't the (((media))) as concerned with that? The Boston Globe itself praised the church for doing the same thing it would condemn it for a decade later.

>>90027437
To be fair the consensus says the majority of the marvel movies are kino

although I don't entirely disagree with your point here

>>90028024
He's not wrong per we. An R rated cape movie with a lower budget will typically rake in lots of revenue in comparison to what was spent compared to a PG13 cape movie

>>90027258
If you are American your opinion on the subject is only biased because of dumb hashtags and because of the media.

>>90028143
but he's right

they use trucks now

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>>90026049
>If you actually read comics you'd know his has been answered dozens of times
Ah, yes! I almost forgot. There's a virus that makes people hate mutants. What a really well thought explanation. And totally not diminishes the message at all, even though it takes away all the responsibility from the prejudiced humans. They are not doing it on their own free will, it's a "virus." A fucking space virus!

Seriously, how stupid does one have to be to accept that? It's just a convenient excuse made up by the hacks- I mean, the writers. Capecomic readers really have to be the stupidest group of any medium if they take this giant fucking cop-out as legitimate explanation.

>>90026187
>Meanwhile there are towns that are 99% white and christian ravaged by opioid addiction and prescription drug abuse that no one wants to comment on.

Name them.

>>90028050
I'd be very okay with that, but the way society is today, people would bitch about it.

>>90028159
I thought the trucks drove themselves magically?
That's why you read headlines in the form of "truck rams crowd in Nice".

>>90028174
we label some things "feminist" like they did with Mad Max Fury Road.

the fan service isn't fan service to titillate the male audience. it is to normalize female sexuality and lesbianism.

>>90026327
>critics
>corporate employees
>paid anything by studios
...you don't get out much, do you? Do you even know how these press screenings go? They shuffle a handful of critics into the smallest screen at the multiplex, sometimes early in the morning. The marketing rep reads off the press release, states the embargo, screens the movie and then asks us what we thought on our way out. That's it.

There have been paid critics in the past, but these practices of wooing individuals for a sound bite was abandoned because A) it's not worth it anymore and B) it's a lot fucking easier now to catch them in the act and bring down their credibility.

>>90025640
Even if this flopped muties weren't going back to Marvel anytime soon.

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>>90028361
>in the past
>credibility

>>90025640
You realize this is Jackman's last X-film, right?

They can't milk Wolverine anymore because nobody will accept anyone but The Hugh.

>>90027821
Paul get your uncle Tom ass outta here

>>90027412
If you don't care about consensus why are you visiting a Rotten Tomatoes thread in the first place?

Just go see the film or don't lmao.

>>90025960
>implying Fant4stic got good reviews
>implying Apocalypse got good reviews

Lel, it's over mate, the myth of critics simply being biased towards Marvel/fun is over.

Go cry into your jar of piss, Snyderfag.

>>90028581
What, no evanposting?

>>90028521
It is kind of hard to imagine anyone else in the role of Wolverine after Jackman; but most of us have lived through 5 different Batman actors, so, I'm sure whoever they decide to go with after Jackman will do just fine, with the right script, director, cinematographer, and choreography behind them.

It's like, outside of the height, Jackman was indeed The Wolverine.

>>90027660
Owned

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>>90028735
I never really considered it but Jackman has now played Wolverine 9 times. That's 3 times more than Connery played James Bond and 2 times more than Moore did. And he's been playing the role for 17 years. Whoever has to replace him is fucked.

After seeing this scores, I have faith they can re-reboot the F4 and do it better now.

>>90027472
>i-i'm actually black guys

Sure you are, Tanner, sure

>>90030538
see
>>90027660

>>90030557
You can't tho

>>90028161
almost everyone hates sublime (except for the people like you and morrisson who think the previous explanations didn't make sense) but that was not the first time it was explained you idiot

>>90028164
not that guy but, Hickory, NC

place is a shithole, every other person looks like they're on hard drugs because they are

one of the worst addiction rates in the state if not the country

>>90030623
se this post? I'm quoting it because that will be the start of a shitstorm that end with some poor sjw "victim" claiming pol is out to ruin his life, despite being the one starting all that shit, every fucking time.

>>90028164
What the state of West Virginia

>>90027341
Humans have the intelligence to think critically about their own instinct. It's the reason we've gotten this far. No one who lives in a civilized society has the ground to appeal to "human nature".

>>90030670
I think it'll end with a anti sjw circlejerk with some idiot butting in with "/pol/ go home"

>>90028361

Yeah. There's no Disney conspiracy.

The best way to understand critics is to actually read those reviews that Rottentomates scores are based on. They're hardly impressive.

>>90025640
8 out of 10 doesn't sound like such an outrageous score for people to doubt the authenticity.

>>90025761
Fucking this. This is the reason why mutants must not be in marvle movies.

>>90030780
Im gonna keep this simple and american for you, white american people will never go through shit because of the color of their skin. They will for their other attributes (gay,mental illness, women,crippled,etc.) .the worst white people will get are shitty memes about cooking and being dorky by nature. Other than outliers, like the kidnapping in Chicago, they'll be fine in that department.

>>90031076
Oh yes. Let's forget about that poor kid who got kidnapped and beaten for three days straight because he was white.

Not because he was schizophrenic. Because he was white.

>>90031152
What about the black version where the guy was also raped and no one cared? No outrage because it wasn't broadcasted on Facebook live?

>>90031152
Yeah what a outlier event, glad that doesn't happen that doesn't on the daily or the weekly or monthly, .Other than the little scuffles in Charlotte and memes, when else have white people feared for themselves because they are white from minorities

So how likely are we to get another legacy virus storyline if Logan does well? I'd actually be down for that after a decade and a half of not having it around.

>>90025640
This isn't fair! This was supposed to be terrible!

We were supposed to get the rights back!!

>>90025640
Good. I hate overly-muddled universes. Marvel used to be better when the focus was more individual. There were team up books, sure, but they kept it separate usually.

>>90026118
X-2 is the only Singer X film I liked, and it's actually one of my favorite superhero movies. The rest are mediocre to awful.

>>90033743
we still can we just have to make sure no one sees it

critics loved Dredd but it's never getting a sequel

>>90030949
They already have Inhumans who are irrationally hated the same way in the MCU. Inb4 AoS isn't canon. Nick Fury and Sif were in it, Coulson started in the movies, it's canon.

>>90025640

Does anybody actually want to see a Disney Channel appropiate X-Men movie with sexual fetishism, genocide, master race, aids and apartheid and gays and blacks civil rights allegories?

I dont think shared universe would be possible

>>90025640
It is better than the alternative. We need more studios willing to make R-rated films. That would never happen with Disney since they would always push for family friendly films.

>>90033944
I meant to write without, not with.

>>90031076
what about the disproportionate rape of white women by black males?

>>90028974
>Jackman has now played Wolverine 9 times.

Fuck off

>>90033644
There's no need for the Legacy virus so long as mutants are almost extinct due to Wanda, terrigen, and Perlmutter.

>>90025640
>Disneyfags on suicide watch

YESH~!

>>90033743
>This isn't fair! This was supposed to be terrible!
Wait, did people actually believe this? What about all the memes about it being OSCAR WORTHY and shit like that?

>>90036134
>Wait, did people actually believe this?

Fox X-Men movies have been very uneven. People were pessimistic.

>What about all the memes about it being OSCAR WORTHY and shit like that?

lol memes

>>90036207
Their lost. I'm not keen on any of the FOX-men films, but this one looked legitimately intriguing.

>>90025640

Yeah, Hugh Jackman is playing Wolverine forever and ever.

No way it'll stop.

>>90027472
>haha guys i know what i said is actually shitty im just playing the devils advocate!!
>dont be triggered haha!!!
what this mean

>>90025640
>Whelp, mutants aren't going back to Marvel anytime soon now.

Fucking great. I'm not in a hurry to get the all new, all black, all transwoymn Cyclops to go with the gay Iceman and the female Wolverine we're stuck with now.

>>90025640
Cool, I guess? They're doing fine without them.

>>90037641

I would kill Teen Cyclops in a heartbeat to replace him with Ruby Summers. After he impregnates Emma.

>>90036100
HAHAHAHA THE MCU IS DONE. BTFO

>>90025640
Does this spell the end for Disney? Both FOX and Warner Bros. have critically acclaimed Oscar worthy films. The MCU is lagging behind.

>>90039490
They're finished. Only FOX and WB can make KINO capefilms. MCU has no KINO films whatsoever.

>>90025839
But most people hate niggers and wiggers all the same. So it doesn't matter if you were born a mutant or for your powers from chemicals, if you act like a nigger people will want to send sentinels after you.

It's one of the best supe movies i've ever seen. Pretty great all round honestly, and I hated most of the X-Men films until now.

>>90041723

I think the only X-Men movie I actually went to the theater to watch is First Class but I'll probably pay for Logan. I think we're looking at a really decent box office

>>90042230
It's worth the price of admission. Some great acting, some fucking heartbreaking moments, and it's really really violent as hell

>>90041723
How was the score? Another Marco Beltrami embarrassment or does Wolverine finally have a cool theme?

>>90043569
Actually now that you mention it, I didn't notice the music too much.

Wasn't awful, but wasn't wildly impressive either. Some good music, but no memorable theme tune or anything that stands out a few days after seeing it.

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>>90027462
How many Avengers are Aliumz?

>>90026356
Clearly you've not been to Ireland

>>90027280
>"Someone remind me of the last time the Avengers (insert something horrible that the Brotherhood of mutants did)

aaaaand there's how people could love the Avengers and hate the X-Men. Thanks for proving my point.

>>90027462
Most of the Avengers are brilliant scientists and/or people that accidents happened to.

But everybody knows who they are.

Mutants are scary because you never know - some freak might be living amongst you! Oo0oO0Oo. Scary.

Since this one is being raved about then the next Fox Marvel film will be ravaged by critics. Seems to be their modus operandi.

>>90045458
Well that or Fox doing R-rated Marvel movies is a general good luck charm on them.

>>90045458
They should try making the next one good, unlike Apocalypse.

>>90027660
sadly proof means nothing to tumblrnas.
hope you have a nice day, mate

>>90025640
good, fuck muties

>>90025640
What about the FF? Give Disney Doom, please.

>>90025761

The Avengers are the cops and soldiers with guns who are fighting real supervillains and saving the world all the time.

The mutants are random people who walk around with an ak-47 strapped on. Some of them wear it openly, some hide it. These weapons are constantly going off as they shoot them in public. Every day, there's a different story about how some crazy with a gun got emotional and killed a bunch of people. And when you talk to these mutants and about how they scare you and think they should have to take some safety measures, they call you a racist or blow your head up.

The X-men are basically the talking heads on cable news who say "Not all mutants are bad." Even though they'll have serial killers like Wolverine, Emma Frost, Magneto, etc etc etc talking about it.

Of course it's different.

>>90047172
Senator Kelly please go.

>>90027341
>t. Underage white boy in Idaho

>>90047263
It doesn't make you more mature to deny the existence of group-think and tribalism.

>>90025640
they should have just put the xmen and the fantastic four movies in the same universe with cross-overs

make their own cinematic universe

they are both owned by fox atm right?

>>90048989
not a good idea to taint x-men with fan4stic

>>90025640
Thank fucking God. I don't know a single reasonable argument that could ever defend this without hurting either the MCU as a whole or the X-Men

>>90025727
>capekino
Can we please just permanently ban all /tv/ Redditors?

>>90027472
>>90027248
>all these replies
Is this the power of fatass Tumblrinas?