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Matt Reeves drops out of Batman

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OMG, how shit can the script for The Batman be?
Is Johns involved in this?
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This thing is sounding like a career-ending hot potato.
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Why dont they just have Snyder direct it
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>>90017473
>Is Johns involved in this?

He was a writer on the script.
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>>90017473
Yeah, he co-wrote it and is still a consultant at WB.
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>>90017473
Don't we already have this thread?
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>>90017680
>>90017688
Well, that explains a lot
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>>90017701
everyday till you like it
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>>90017473
Tumbling down...Tumbling down...Tumbling down...
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I don't think it is the script. Affleck co-wrote said script, so it wasn't that that made him give up directing.

The problem is probably the studio and producers demanding crazy stuff.
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>>90017473
D U M P S T E R

F
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>>90017473
I wish Johns would stop wasting his time with this movie shit, no one gives a fuck and they all turn out shitty. Go back to writing comics.
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>>90018276
Yeah, Affleck's last movie bombed so they lost confidence in him and started getting really micromanagey probably. That would scare off most directors.
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>>90017473
>reads script
>suddenly Birthday Boy

That would cause anyone to walk the fuck out.
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>>90017473
>drops out
Would mean that he was actually on the movie. He was only in talks for the movie and dumb "news" sites ran with it like it was confirmed.
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>>90018296
AAAAH GO BACK TO MOVIES, GO BACK TO MOVIES
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Brett Ratner incoming
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>>90018412
At least let him write the Seven Seas arc for JL
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Why would you direct a DC movie?

Basically just means that you have to make a movie that you have very little creative impact on, yet is inevitably gonna be bad anyway... and then you have to take the blame for it.
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>>90018514
That's what Brett is for mate
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>>90018461
I want it, solely for the amount of mental gymnastics people will go through to defend Ratner's work
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>>90017473

Can they bring Chris McQuarry onto this? He's got a reputation for making failing movies into good ones.

At this point I reckon it'd be too little too soon, but it would at least possibly make it better than Suicide Squad.

Also, can I get a source on this?
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>>90018551
Going by /tv/ as a sample, I'd say they won't defend Ratner. Instead, they'll double down on sucking Snyder's cock.
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that sucks, is there any reason as to why? or is it typical studio shit
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>>90018799
because the dceu is shit
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>>90017473
>post YFW /co/ meme magic is destroying the DCEU.

Take that /tv/!
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>>90018799
>that sucks, is there any reason as to why? or is it typical studio shit
I suspicion is, that Warner insist that The Batman comes out in 2018 as planned, and no sane director would think it is possible.
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>>90019024
yeah that makes sense, just aquaman confirmed for 2018 right now right?
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>>90019044
Have they set up production or filmed anything with Aquaman?
It could easily disappear to be replaced by Harley and her Girls.
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>>90019024
Probably more than that.

Look at "Suicide Squad". The studio refilmed the movie to make Boomerang have a Pink Unicorn. Take a look at the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer, half of the scenes there aren't in the movie. They were removed to add Pink Unicorn jokes.

I can see them demanding the same kind of bullshit for this movie. No wonder nobody wanna direct it.
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>>90018920
and what "meme magic" is that?
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>>90019086
But the unicorn bits were choke-on-your-popcorn HILAROUS.
Tell me that anyone in your theater had any sides left when those dropped!
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>>90019086
I want to direct this
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>>90019122
Hercules was garbage Brett.
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Are we gonna start pretending that George Miller or Mel Gibson would touch a DC cape film with a ten foot pole now?
Because neither of them will.
I have doubts they could sign Shamalamadingdong on at this stage.

Patty will be spending the rest of her career trying to live down her Snyder homage to Wonder Woman.
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>>90018514
>put together a cut of the movie that test audiences like
>studio hires incompetents to recut it anyway
>have to go out and swallow shit claiming that the studio abortion is totally your baby and there will never be any other cut
>studio releases "extended cut" for bonus shekels making you look like a tool
>your original cut will still never be seen by anyone
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>>90019061
i keep seeing cast announcements so i can assume so, Wan seems set on doing it.

>>90019173
>Shamalamadingdong
niggas got his own superhero franchise now
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>>90019283
>i keep seeing cast announcements
In other words, no.
I can see Aquaman being canceled on the heels of Wonder Woman's spectacular implosion.
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>>90019261
>Snyder apologists are this deep in denial
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>>90019324
>Snyder

That's Ayer. And I'm not apologizing for him because he was spineless enough to let the studio buttfuck him in public. He deserves his misery.
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>>90019324
You ain't seen nothing yet.
>>>/tv/79552728
Read it and weep. Or rage, whatever.
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>>90019339
whats wrong with any of that?
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>>90019476
there was one post in there that WASN'T mocking DC for being shit
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>>90019114
Making it a joke.
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>>90019476
>DC's fine! It's all fake news claiming otherwise!
>what's wrong with that
Really, anon.
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>>90019549
that was /tv/ though

what did /co/ do?
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>>90019564
buy into tv memes
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I have faith that in 3 more years, when the Director's Cut Extended Universe is 2 years dead and buried, we'll still have those guys insisting that Man of Steel was an incredible film.
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>>90019593
... I like MoS.

I won't say it is an incredible movie or anything like that, but is better than BvS and SS, easily. In fact, I like it more than the two "Thor"s
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>>90019339
>DCfag here, Snyder's BvS was cheeky, but it has no place in capeshit. DC is plagued by the Nolan series, if it's not up to par with it's darkness and realism it will get shit on, so the DCEU is doomed to be a no-fun franchise. Also, the casting sucks, besides Cyborg and Batfleck.

>so basically you can all thank Nolan for this mess.
Holy shit
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>>90019637
I don't like MoS on any level, but I can't fight you over reasonable opinion.
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>>90017473
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>>90019335
You seem to be forgetting about this little thing between Directors and Studio's called "contracts".

you dumb ass.
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>>90019889
Now that's some apologia there.
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I bet the executives are being total tyrants and fucking up every aspect of the movie.
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>>90017473
This is mental. This movie went from Hollywood gold, to development hell, and then the next day I find it's achieved its final form as a dumpster fire.

How shit is this Batman movie? I mean really? Is this Batman movie average, but too many Hollywood big shots don't want to risk being attached to a crumbling DCEU for fear of career suicide?
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The DCEU crashed and is burning harder than my social life in high school.

It's beautiful.
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>>90018920
>>post YFW /co/ meme magic is destroying the DCEU.
Shitty movies like BvS and Suicide squad destroyed the DCEU
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>>90019114
It all started with Man of Murder memes and went downhill from there.

Now, if only /co/ could do the same with current Marvel Comics.
>inb4 b-buth they'll rebirth'd the line next fall!
As long as Quesada, Breevort, Bendis and their gang of smegma eating asses bastards keep the power, Marvel doesn't stand a chance of being good. Ike might be cheap, but he only manages the economical side (though he's at fault for pushing the Inhumans and buying the FF and X-Men, but as long as it makes him a buck he'll personally fuck BlackBolt in an issue). At the end of the day the little clique running the place are the real cancer.
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>>90019311
>I can see Aquaman being canceled on the heels of Wonder Woman's spectacular implosion.

Which is disappointing because Aquaman is basically DC's only hope at this point. No one is hyped for Wonder Woman(and it's going to get assfucked by Pirates 5), Justice League is still being directed by Zack so that's already a guaranteed bomb bar some sort of miracle, Cyborg got canceled and thrown into the Flash movie, and Flash got pushed back for a Harley Quinn movie.

If Aquaman fails, we're just going to end up with the Batman and Harley Quinn cinematic universe, with the occasionally guest stars by other superheroes.
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>>90018920
>/co/
>being able to meme magic
/co/ is the only board next to /x/ that can't into meme magic. We're too busy shitposting about hypercrisis
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>>90020117
>It all started with /tv/ memes and went downhill from there.
exactly so what did /co/ do?
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Hey DC if you're reading this from a life long batman fan, I'll direct your movie.

I only require a few million dollars
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>>90020156
>Hey DC if you're reading this from a life long batman fan, I'll direct your movie.
>I only require a few million dollars
There was a director who admits that he sign up to direct shitty movies, with the intention to get paid while doing nothing as film tend to be cancelled. Free money. But he stopped doing that once he was forced to actually direct a shitty film.
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>mfw they've hit the point where Kevin Smith might actually be a viable option
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>>90020294
I think the DCEU is a flaming wreck but it's still probably too good for him.
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EVERYTHING IS FINE

IT'S FINE

NOTHING IS GOING WRONG

EVERYTHING IS FINE
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>>90019541
theres plenty mate, what you talking about
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>>90020294
Would Kevin Smith even want to?
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>>90020438
His recent movies (that he directed) have been doing badly. He MIGHT just be desperate enough. Throw in the fact that he's a much bigger comic book fan than all the other directors that have been attached to the project, and it really might be enough to bait him into hoping this project will turn things around for him while having his personal touch.
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>>90019114
>>90020145
/co/ definitely has no meme magic. The only time /co/ ever affected anything outside of itself is when it unleashed M*P on the world. /co/ has to concoct industrial grade cancer before anyone else notices it exists.
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>>90020145
>/x/
>can't into meme magic
ONE JOB.
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Anyone got a statement from Reeves? i cant find anything what so ever.

>>90020438
he says he wont, but if he was offered the chance he would take it as he's hypocritical cunt
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>>90020503
>>90020438
>>90020529
he wouldnt, he's scared of ben
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>>90020527
All they've managed is imaginary friends. The board LITERALLY dedicated to shit like meme magic can't do anything
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>>90020503
>dly. He MIGHT just be desperate enough. Throw in the fact that he's a much bigger comic book fan than all the other directors that have been attached to the project
Affleck was the biggest
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>>90020769
Except he's already out. We're talking about his replacement.
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>>90020835
What I'm saying is if Affleck of all people wants out, I can't see Smith doing much better
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>DC movies keep getting fucked before they begin
>Batman gets doubly fucked in the span of a week
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>>90018296
Johns comics had been terrible and obviously taking the gig as a writer of this movie is one of the reasons it sucks
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>>90018474
Why? It will be about seven sea legendary armors that will give the league powers (and alternative suits to sell toys) and nothing will happen.
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>>90021161
Johns hasn't been writing comics since he was involved with the movies. Get your facts straight.
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>>90018412
kek
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>>90018920
This board does not have meme magic, it doesn't even has oc memes outside batman rape the joker forced shir
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>>90021222
/co/ has meme magic.

We just wasted most of it by spending the last year feeding celebrities to Stan Lee.
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>>90017473
Don't worry, DC still has this.
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I'll be surprised if they don't shut down the whole DCEU after JL.
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>>90021498
>/co/ has meme magic.
We really don't
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>>90021775
>reading is hard
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>batman and superman quit batman movie
What the hell is DC doing?
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If 10 years ago anyone would have said that Marvel movies would be crushing DC Movies, I would have laughed at their silly mind
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>>90019117
>But the unicorn bits were choke-on-your-popcorn HILAROUS.
>Tell me that anyone in your theater had any sides left when those dropped!
The sad part is that this is true people were laughing at this.
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>>90017473
Can we officially say Johns ruined the DCEU now
WW is gonna flop
his Batman script is shit
He is gonna be held responsible for the huge flop this course correct is hitting
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>>90023367
Not until the movies come out and then we will see.

>>90017473
I can't blame the guy for saying no. DCEU is really in bad place currently.
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>>90023367

Can you blame the shitty driver when the cr is busted in the first place
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>>90023367
What the fuck is that, Minority Report? Are we blaming people based on the future?
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>>90017473

Just give The Batman to Zack, I unironically want this, the Batman scenes are the best parts of BvS and the whole objetivism philosophy fits more with Batman than Superman, he may as well carry half of the DCEU.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGW1XaEWHnM
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>>90023490
They gave Snyder the keys and he cast everyone that mattered in universe
Gal Gadot is a terrible actress
Jesse Eisenberg is a terrible luthor and to think he passed on bryan cranston

His inept focus on visuals vs actual content is okay when you are focusing on a character like superman but when dealing with the JL yeah no
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>>90023367
Johns was never kevin fiege
He has no credibility in the first place and has never really proven he can produce movies.
His failure is kinda set up to show how the old people they fired kinda did have the right idea
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>>90023714
>and to think he passed on bryan cranston

Bryan Cranston was never considered for the role & vice versa , it was just fan hype
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>>90023779
no he was actually considered
snyder chose eisenberg because he wanted to be different
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>>90023739

Why they didnt hire Paul Dini and/or Bruce Timm as head consultant(s) for DCEU is beyond me.
They both have the most experience for a shared DC universe
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>>90019173
>George Miller
He is very old , he may as well do another Mad Max with the time on Earth he has left

>Shamalamadingdong
He is already recovering with that split movies,m I guess he already learned that franchise moviers a re potential career killers.

>Mel Gibson
He is too old-school to touch films like these, he is also recovering from being blacklisted by Hollywood. I'll lose any respect I have for Mel as a film director if he directs SS2 for money
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>>90023830

You better have sauce for that claim son
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>>90023914
>I guess he already learned that franchise moviers a re potential career killers.

if Avatar couldnt kill his career, I dont think anything else can
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>>90023914

Mel Gibson directed SS2 would probably be the best DCEU film ever made. He'd be the only guy able to stand up to the WB kike execs
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>>90023739
Johns seems like a very nice guy, but he really doesn't strike me as a good businessman. Feige is one of those rare producers that know how comic books work, but are also very good at handling a business.

The narrative of Johns being DCEU's Feige always struck me as just empty PR. Guy is definitely getting trampled on by the bigshot executives and most probably doesn't know how to be assertive and put his foot down when he wants something. He's just DCEU's mascot, only there to give comic book fans some hope that he'll manage to steer the ship around. In reality he probably doesn't have much power.
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>>90018412
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MISS ME YET?
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The ship is sinking, the DCEU will be dead after JL
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>>90021185
Are you retarded? Darkseid war was by Johns
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>>90021161
Johns is a good writer, its just that he only excels at certain characters. Darkseid war was shit, but his Aquaman was good
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>>90024170
He does has power, he convinced everyone that Cyborg was a good idea. He Fucked up hard. He took the writing role of batman and wonder woman just for the money. He is a competent comic book writer, but the only reason he is in power is that he has been a bitch of the executives, he lacks any artistic integrity.
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>>90021185
Bro Rebirth #1 was his baby.
That was just a matter of months ago.
Plus he's coming back for another arc I'm not sure which title.
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>>90017473
nolan going to get 100 million dollars to do batman again. and fan boys will love it.
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I find it kind of funny (I find it kind of sad) that Joel Schumaccer ultimately had more say with Batman Forever than any modern director will with The Batman

Hell, Joel Schumaccer got to have say in the actors that starred, unlike The Batman where you're pretty much locked in and it'd be a passionless job. I like JK Simmons, but what if the director wanted somebody else as Jim Gordon?
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>>90019637
>I like it more than the two "Thor"s
You know, that's not saying a whole lot, but I agree with you anon.
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this is gonna be the new batman and robin aint it?
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>>90020515
didn't /co/ kill that one guy that leaked Korra and that one writer?
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>>90025373
I'd be surprised if it even turned into that, considering B&R made George Clooney into an A-lister.
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>>90025126

What about Nolan?
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>>90025416
yeah, all for a shitty camrip of a new episode with piss-poor audio

/co/ proved their true worth that day
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>>90018920
The idea that /co/ is impacting the DCEU or even has any actual perspetive on what the mass of general audience likes is laughable.
Anecdote: I have a sixty year old mother. She sees MAYBE one movie a year, if that. A she flat out refuses to see any action or cape movies. She's a complete blank slate with regards to movies like BvS and what she heard about it second hand from co-workers was that "it was long".

Not good, or or great or kino, or dogshit or disappointing, just "long". THAT is the mark the DCEU is leaving on people out there in the real world that don't give a shit.
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>>90023971
To add to this, he said he initially met Eisenberg for the infamous Jimmy Olsen cameo but then when he saw his reserved and awkward mannerism he thought "DUDE, WHAT IF LEX DIDN'T FEEL LIKE LEX LMAO"
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>>90025429
Really? Uh, i always figured he was picked because he was already famous
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>>90026128

I was asking sauce for Bryan Cranston being seriously considered for the role of Lex, which there isnt because there were only rumors
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>>90023367
Man Wonder Woman was always going to flop.
It stars a supermodel with an intelligible accent that thinks resting bitch face is how you emote has to be tied into a movie franchise that was, at best, highly controversial, directed by someone that is highly untested for this kind of work (and let's face it, was hired primary due to gender politics), the biggest name draw is Chris Pratt, and even the head of DC Entertainment goes "Wonder Woman doesn't have a movie because she has no stories".

Johns does a lot of shitty nostalgia fag things and he's overrated but you can't blame him for this kind of trainwreck.
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>>90026179
Have you seen the pic? It's not much, but Snyder said himself "Bryan Cranston would've been great, right?"

Maybe he was referencing the rumour, maybe he meant he was actually considered
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>>90026271

>Implying I would believe Hack Snyder over based Cranston who has denied even being in any such conversation with WB

Snyder likely just wanted to namedrop to seem cool
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>talks could resume when heads cool

Damn man, I wanna sit in one some of these talks.
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I kind of miss the days before BvS came out. There was genuine hype at least. And of course all the ''It's gonna break records and drive the MCU into bankruptcy'' posts. Does anyone have the 1.jpg pic?
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>>90026428
I know right? I was one of those thinking it was going to address MoS' problems

Well, i guess it KINDA tried
>Thank goodness this part of the town is empty at this hour!
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>>90026507

>they're headed for an uninhabited warehouse district

Of course they are.

And incidentally, since when do airplanes broadcast live news coverage in the back of peoples' seats while its still on the runway?
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>>90026203
>directed by someone that is highly untested for this kind of work (and let's face it, was hired primarily due to gender politics)

Disney/Marvel aside from a few duds like Alan Taylor has been able to get completely unexpected directors like Peyton Reed or the Russos to spin straw into gold for them.

Ryan Coogler is another perfect rising star probably set to make Black Panther into another smash success.

They're still shopping around for a female director for Captain Marvel but I think they're quietly going to concede at some point they couldn't find the right person willing to follow their paint-by-numbers approach.
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>>90026542
>incidentally, since when do airplanes broadcast live news coverage in the back of peoples' seats while its still on the runway?
sine at least i went to thailand, which was six or so years ago now.
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>>90026734
They could use the excuse that at least the writers are both women
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>tfw I'm pretending DC makes comics and nothing else
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>>90026876

Not even games?
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>>90019703
Saving this for when the DCEU gets canceled this December.
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>>90026387

What if WW becomes a hit because of muh feminism
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>>90026966
It didn't work for Ghostbusters so I doubt it will work for WW.
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>>90026966

Yeah, cuz that worked real well for Ghostbusters.

Although admittedly after it came out most people started hating it not because of the women, but because it wasn't very good. And based on what they've shown of WW...yeah.
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>>90026428
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>>90026966
Ghostbusters had an AGGRESSIVE muh feminism marketing and it didn't do shit
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>>90026428
and some other noteworthy stuff
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>>90026542

I was in south american last summer, we watched CNN Chile
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>>90026966
Who will protect us from the combined forces of dc fans and feminists once WW tanks?
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>>90026996
>>90027027
>>90027052
Thanks. And then it all came crashing down in flames. The reactions were amazing.
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>>90026128
More like the guy was in the short list, and Snyder Lex does feel like lex. it's just that some faggots think only sex luthor is a valid inte pretation,
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>>90027112
>>90026834

Must be in expensive airlines only.
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>>90027144
And since Lego Batman's been getting better reviews
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>>90027174
yes, sucks to be you fag
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>>90020570
Aren't they friend and basically had him in every of his movies if he could?
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>>90027195
>lego mcu will be ultimate kińó
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>>90027269
i remember a while ago smith posted a tweet saying he had to much common sense to direct a dceu film (But not enough to direct Yoga Hosers apparently). in the same tweet he said he had not seen Ben in years, considering some of the on set stuff i heard about him, it wouldn't surprise me if he felt intimidated by Ben in the very least.

This is all speculation mind, but i wouldn't be surprised if the anon is right.
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>>90027389
But I thought that Kevin Smith, Jason Mewes, Matt Damon and Ben Afleck knewe each other and worked together since eor they hit celebrity.

When you know each other since that long you don't get intimated, you can get to hate someone, but not get intimidated.

Unless I am confusing Ben Afleck with someone else?
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>>90027455
Smith and Affleck haven't been in contact in years, they aren't really close like Smith's other usual suspects.

Besides, Smith seems to be interested mostly in smaller works, like vanity projects like Yoga Hosers or episodes of The Flash.
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>>90027506

And that really weird 'Tusks' movie.
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>>90027523
And Tusk, yeah.
We've, uh, we've taken a weird path since the days of Clerks and Dogma...
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>>90018276
Affleck doesnt WANT to be Batman anymore it looks like. Theres a video where he is obviously annoyed with being questioned about batman.
And while i get thats probably a bit annoying, wtf did you expect? Its batman. And honestly if you were such a fan, as ive seen anons claim Affleck was and that was why he would do Batman justice (ha), he shouldve understood the hype that came with the role.
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>>90027588
Well you can only talk about superhero dicks for so many movies.
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>>90027615

He's never tried to hide that his being in the DCEU is partly so he can earn some credit and money for his personal stuff.
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>>90018920
The only thing /co/ does with meme magic is kill off celebrities for the lich king
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>>90027174
Probably, Turkish Airlines was putting a lot of money, between 50m and 100m
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May Justice League be the final nail in the DCEU coffin.

In the same way that Batman and Robin put Batman away for awhile, the same needs to happen now. DC has done so much wrong they need to just stop and let people miss Batman and Superman.
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>>90027628
Shut up Boco, nobody asked you
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>>90027722
>they need to just stop and let people miss Batman and Superman.
why would we ever miss them? we have better heroes now
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>>90027615
I think he feels particularly pressured because he's considered the saving grace of the DCEU

"Affleck will save BvS", "Affleck will direct a new awesome trilogy", "Affleck will participate/anticipate his personal projects to save the DCEU", "Affleck will star in every damn DC movie so the producers can happily remind us Affleck will save the DCEU", he probably didn't expect all of this
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>>90027739

Yes sir...
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>>90019662
Lol bullshit. Affleck is worst batman
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>>90027780
Meant to say posticipate
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>>90026996
Holy FUCK everyone was wrong about Deadpool.
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>>90027615
I wonder if he's even allowed to announce it. Wouldn't WB be all up his ass if he quits before WW and Justice League come out?
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>>90027948
He's Ben fucking Affleck, if he wants to quit he can and WB can't do shit.
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>>90027948
JL, definitely. I doubt he has anything to do with WW.
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>>90027940

>everyone

>one poster on 4chan
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>>90027722
Justice League sounds like it's going to be particularly terrible. Zack Snyder trying to copy Marvel sounds like a recipe for disaster. As much as I hated BvS, don't try and make Snyder make a funny movie. Just let him do his thing.
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>>90027948
Yeah even if he wants out he probably won't be able to. Those contracts are strict, especially for main characters.

If he was a supporting actor playing someone like Red Skull or whatever and he wanted out, then he'd probably be able to do it. Batman though? Forget it, he'll have to fulfill his contract even if he wants to or not.
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>>90027948
Even if he is allowed to disclose it, he probably wants to wait to keep a good relationship with WB. We'll see what happens after Justice League.
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>>90028059

>wants to wait to keep a good relationship with WB

After Live by Night, I wonder if WB does...
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>>90028072
WB keeps giving the Wachowskis work

pretty sure he's fine
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>>90028119
Actually, no. Jupiter Ascending was the last chance for them. Then they had to run off to Netflix.
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>>90018920

>Meme Magic

No we just shit post about news after it comes out. /co/ has some of the weakest meme magic on 4chan
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>>90025117

That would literally be the only thing that could save the DCEU at this point
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>>90026128

>Bryan Cranston was always considered the perfect choice

Literally because he was bald in breaking bad. Fucking "always" I doubt anyone said that when he was in Malcolm in the Middle
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>>90027050
Ghostbusters is a franchise that has some dedicated fans but the normie appeal has gone down a lot with there not being a movie for twenty goddamn years.

So a marketing campaign that deliberately alienated those fans and told them to fuck off and they didn't want them anyway was a terrible idea.

WW will alienate some people just by virtue of being a big steaming pile of shit but it's not telling WW fans to go die in a fire.
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>>90028072
you seen it dude? The film isnt to bad.
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>>90026994

Ghostbusters had a bunch of other problems that WW doesn't have. WW isn't attacking men at every turn for one thing
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>>90027780
>I think he feels particularly pressured because he's considered the saving grace of the DCEU

Most people laughed about the casting when it was first announced
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>>90028550

I don't doubt it. But it flopped at the BO, and thats all WB cares about.
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>>90027628
Well I wish the anons who praised him would consider that and see that all the role was to Affleck was another check, another thing to brag about and that he wasnt some "true comic fan".

Id love it if more people just opened their eyes to how shitty his Batman/Bruce was, but thats asking too much of people.
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>>90028630
i just looked it up. Fuck i can see what you mean now.

Still you think WB would of advertised it a bit better if they hoped to make bank on it.
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>>90026542
Everytime I've flown in the last decade live news was available on the plane..,
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>>90028059
If they haven't started filming Batman by the time JL is out that will be proof enough that it's either not happening or Affleck's not involved.
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>>90028687
He's a fan, too. His kid also thinks he's the real Batman.
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>>90018920
You know Warner Bros is directed by The Gentry. The endgame always is to rape the wallets.
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>>90028687
But dude, his costume looked great and he had a good fight scene.

Apparently that's the only thing you need to be "the best Batman ever". I fucking hate comic book fans and their obsession with superficial shit like costumes. You need more than an accurate costume to be a well adapted character.
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>>90028795

I asked the local Gentry something once.

They said "Its elementary".
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>>90027174
Jet blue? Not an expensive airline at all
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>>90028815
Hey, he ran headlong into a cloud of smoke to save people, then stared down a superhuman when said superhuman ripped his car open.

Those are both totally things Batman would do.
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>>90027780
Honestly i think he brought it on himself.

I cant help but feel that Affleck himself thought BvS was gonna be this immense hit, and once he saw it wasnt he lost interest.

He brought on Terrio, one of his goons, they all thought they had this masterpiece and didnt think for a second that things could go wrong.

It wasnt pressure, wasnt really even loss of confidence, it was his ego that was shattered.
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>>90019703
>MFW Alan Moore will save the comic books tradition killing an entire cinematic universe.

What else can I expect from an anarchist?
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Why not have Robert Rodriguez direct it?
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>>90027768
Oh shut the fuck up. Batman and superman still eclipse every marvel character
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>>90028903
Even Spiderman?
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>>90028874
What bothers me is that you may be right. Did they really get done with the final cut of BvS and think, "Yeah, this is gonna be fucking great"? Did Affleck, who directed Argo, really think that?
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>>90028988
Affleck probably didn't.

But the execs most likely did, who then shoved it out the door.
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>>90028903
sorry grandpa Spider-Man and Iron Man are the new hotness
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>>90028793
most everyone is a fan of Batman. What is your point?
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>>90028988
>Watch BvS in theatres.
>Man, this is pretty good, solid film really, love it, but there's a few noticeable hiccups about things.
>Watch BvS: DC at home.
>Man, this is pretty great, solid film, love it, those hiccups in the theatrical release were fixed.

It really is WB meddling. Snyder's cut, even though it was 3 hours, was superior to the theatrical in every way and resolved most issues/complaints people had. If Ayer had stuck to his guns and kept Suicide Squad gritty and didn't cave to "muh Mahvel movees" shit, probably would have been great, as well.

WB/DC's problem is the editing room.
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>>90028903
>Batman
Of course, no one will ever come close to Batman's popularity.

>Superman
Not so sure about that.
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>>90028815
Seriously, thats exactly what they say. It never fails.

if I have to trade a "comic accurate suit " for a good actor who actually invests himself in the role but has a suit that takes a few liberties , im gonna go for the good actor.
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>>90029020
kek, spiderman has been the third most popular superhero since the 70's and people STILL can't name single villian
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>>90029081
The only thing the Snyder cut fixed was giving a few more deserved screen time to Clark. For the rest it didn't fix anything and arguably made things worse, not to mention the theatrical was already too long. Stop deluding yourself, these movies are broken on a conceptual level
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>>90029171
Nigga you are absolutely retarded.

Everyone knows his villains.
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>>90020145
We had meme magic, we just blew it all to unleash the most horrifying tide of autism this board has ever seen. It'll take years to recover.
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>>90029171
>k-kek
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>>90029172
Eh. I enjoyed both MoS and BvS. SS wasn't that great and since WB execs keep meddling, I don't have high hopes for WW or JL, though. And if they turn out to be shit, I can just keep enjoying MoS & BvS until they retry it.
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>>90029212
meanwhile /tv/ is changing to world
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>>90017688
>>90017680
From the sound of things Affleck didn't write any of it. He was saying one minute there's no script, no title, we haven't even sat down yet because of schedules and the next minute there's a script and we're really happy with it moving forward. There was never a point at which he talked about writing.

Seems like they got tired of waiting, bought into the suicidally stupid idea that Batman=Money and had Johns crap something out, probably whatever he's been hiding under his bed next to Courtney's last pair of panties since he was a kid.

This is going to make Batman & Robin look like The Dark Knight by comparison.
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>>90029212
I think it's unfair to blame /co/ for Barneyfag's existence.
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>>90029281
I'm just using that image because it's one of the only ones I have pertaining to that show you can post without a three day vay cay.
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>>90029171
Oh, sweet summer child...
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>>90029225
>>90029316
Do you have anything from the past three years?
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>>90029351
do you really think the shitheap that is the DCEU would change anything?
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At this point I actually want the AT&T and Time Warner mega-merger took through, if only for the possibility that some execs can come in, slap the shit out the WB execs, and tell them to stop being micromanaging asshats.

I just want DC and its non-Batman characters to gain some level of respect from the public, rather than people STILL seeing them as cheesy garbage from the Superfriends era.
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>>90028988
he did. And as funny as a reason as it is, i point to the nude shower scene.

I dunno who wanted that in. Terrio mightve written it in, maybe (most likely) Snyder was the mastermind behind (lol) that scene.

So, Ben agrees to it. He thinks its a good idea to film this scene. He couldve fought it, he couldve had Terrio write it out but no one fought it. It got filmed. Sure it was cut out from theaters but it made the UC. They shot that scene because of DKR and i dont have a doubt in my mind that it was done because it would seem deep and artful. It was to show Bruce in a moment of weakness or to show him in a state of vulnerability blah blah blah.

They all thought it was gonna be high art.
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>>90017473
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>>90029370
Not really, I'm just curious.
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>>90029171
i think most people would at least be able to name venom or green goblin goblin, just as well known as two face or penguin are.
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>>90028571
Awwwww poor men..
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>>90029370
You know DCEU merch makes mad bank right? Like better then MCU last year. Normies eat that shit up
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>>90029370
Not him but I think it would for a few reasons:

1) Kids are dumb and don't care about quality. The ones whose parents let them watch Snyder films probably like it just because muh action.

2) Kids who don't see the movie will probably still gobble up toys. Back in the 90s a bunch of R-rated sci-fi/action films would inexplicably get toy tie-ins and they all sold pretty well.
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>>90018340
That's fucking stupid, because Live By Night was great.
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>>90019703
>alleged suicide of recent movie director

If only
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>>90029465
see >>90029479
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>>90029277
If The Batman does happen i think youre right about it being worse than B&R, hell, id even say JL will be worse than b&R and The Batman will top that as the worst.

Consider this, by the time TheBat starts to film, if at all, and if Affleck is trapped in the role due to contracts his enthusiasm for doing a good job as an actor will be gone. And that is gonna reflect big time on his performance.

Also. Nice digits.
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>>90029523
why are you quoting me? Im calling the guy who said the DCEu doesnt make any merch money an idiot
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>>90029579
it's a thing called double standards.

you wouldn't get it, this is for smart people to laugh at
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>>90029622
double standards over what exactly? Where did i contradict myself?
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>>90029691
nowhere.

it's just emo kids buying skwad hot topic merch, let's not call that popularity, right?
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>>90023850
Because WB executives hate Dini and Timm.
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>>90029762
holy shit you're retarded.

Did you miss the part in which DCEU merch sold better then MCU?

Hot Topic is only in America, that doesnt account for the rest of the world where merchandise is sold, on top of that do you actually think hot topic is an emo store anymore? Its been a normie store for years.

Are you really so upset something you dislike is popular? I dont even care for the DCEU and its fine if you dont, just try not to be a delusional little autist.
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>>90018920
I want to fuck that Taiwanese newspaper comic character.
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>>90029887
>DCEU merch sold better then MCU?
you keep saying this but have yet to post any proof
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>>90020145
>>90020515
>>90029212
Look we have meme magic, its just that we blew most of it getting Samurai Jack/Young Justice back and keeping Stan alive. /pol/ memed Trump in the white house for fuck sake, you telling me we cant conjure a better DC film universe? Check'em
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>>90029762
people like you prove that /co/'s the most autistic board on this shit hole
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>>90029431

Yeah turns out men don't like being treated like shit. Who knew!?
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>>90029958
>>90029762

Yeah, must be me, not the flock of dc idiots that has turned this board in a company wars battle ever since MoS , just because people don't like the dceu.
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>>90029953
your "'em" proves there's no meme magic here
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>>90029933
not even him, but are you unable of looking this shit up for yourself, i mean have you missed all the reports about WW, Harley and Joker being some of the best selling halloween costumes ever, or DC's market share having shot up to 4bil in the past two years. Admittedly thats thanks to the tv shows as well but still.
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>>90030042
Yes it MoS thats caused all the company wars over the past few years. Christ you have a selective memory.

Oh yes and its totally not you who isnt fucking retarded.
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>>90030229
Enlighten us then.

What was it, if it wasn't MoS?

And please, keep on with the insults until you finally get it. It's not that hard, but you have to think a little.
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>>90030042
>it's not me it's those imaginary people that are the problem
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>>90030298
Not that guy, but was "The Avengers".
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>>90030298
/co/ has been endless Marvel vs DC shitposting since before the MCU was even conceived of much less the DCEU. I've been here since 2005 and the only thing that's changed about this shit is the stupid names you faggots call each other.
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>>90030358
I must have missed the 2 billion "hey guys i just watched the avengers and why didn't you like it" threads
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>>90030298
Marvel/DC company wars has always been a thing. It's dumb as hell, but it's true.

Company wars kind of make sense in vidya. Growing up or even as an adult most people get one console and have an investment in the choice they made. My system's games are great, yours are lame.

With comics however it's easy to buy books you like from both of the big two and that's what most people who buy comics do. So there's no good reason to be a company loyalist but some people do it anyway. The film universes have definitely amped this up however.
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>>90030298
> keep on with the insults
i hope he does, you're an idiot
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>>90030410
you must have because they were all over the place same with the Thor movies and AoU
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>>90029953


I think we are against a stronger magic work.

How else is pissed off with the industry and has interacted with what we call "The memespace" for decades before the internet as we know it even existed?

If you accept this in your believe system, then you must ask yourself, why if his plan is right, why if the DCCU have to reboot for a better version of itself?
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>>90030229
>>90030350
He's fucking right, the sheer assblasting of MoS followed by BvS basically resulted in a delusional army of slavish fanboys out to validate their insincere liking for bunch of shitty films that happened to be made by their favourite company.

DCEUfags are a plague upon this board. Literally all they do is repost the same shitty threads about how they "Just saw this film guys 10/10 kino can't believe you idiots didn't like it" and scream childishly when people tell them to go away.

They are by far the biggest contributors to shitposting on /co/.
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>>90030447
>>90030438
>>90030415
>>90030403
>>90030358
>>90030350


That' all good...

HOWEVER

the fact that every single one of you is a dc idiot proves my point.
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>>90030575
why are you pretending to be a different person.
On top of that why are you acting both sides aren't like that, and why do you act like a differing opinion is shit posting.

Retarded.
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>>90029277
>whatever he's been hiding under his bed next to Courtney's last pair of panties since he was a kid.
oh man thats fucked up
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>>90030612
cute.
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>>90030612
And the fact that you're such a faggot proves that inbreeding is really a problem.
>>
this fucking trainwreck of a universe
how did WB turn the fucking DC universe into franchise poison
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>>90029277
Wonder if Leto had a look at it and that's where he's pulling that picture from.
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>>90029953
The events that are unfolding now are what will lead to better DC films.

Theres no chance Snyder, terrio, affleck, gadot and ezra miller could do any justice to the characters so the only way to fix things is for things to end and for all these people to no longer be tied to DC movies.
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>>90030783
I can't read because I'm a faggot, apologies.
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>>90030783
>I don't know what "merch" means
sometimes it's better to not post
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>>90030691
reminder that the money from BvS and SS together made 2016 second most financial year since the company was founded
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>>90029388
It's gonna take a while. It took almost 2 years for the FCC to approve Comcast buying out NBC/Universal from GE. Then another 2 years for them to own it 100%.

So we're stuck with Tsujihara and his cronies until then.
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>>90030815
no, the events that are unfolding now are what will lead to NO DC films
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>>90030842
what got deleted
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>>90030645
>why are you pretending to be a different person.

Because I'm a different person, your samedar is shit.

>On top of that why are you acting both sides aren't like that

Because they're not. Marvelfags simply don't make those threads. They don't devote all their time on /co/ to vilifying other movies and defending their precious Snydershit... because they don't have to. Most of the vitriol from Marvelfags is a response to the delusional faggotry that DCEUfags spew on a regular basis.

>and why do you act like a differing opinion is shit posting.

I'm sorry, but making the same fucking threads over and over and over, regurgitating the same tired arguments, throwing around /pol/worthy infrographics about how 'deep' and 'misunderstood' Snyder is, and constantly crashing unrelated threads to lecture on how DCEU is toootally kiiinooo guuuys for the sake of stirring shit is the definition of shitposting.

I don't even care about one company more than the other, I am just tired of these cancerous faggots shitting up the board.
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>>90026428
Im gonna admit, i was burned by MoS but i had genuine hype for BvS
it was like a childhood dream coming true, the biggest icons in comic book history finally meeting, a battle of themes, idioligy and a build to the greatest partnership in comic history, the worlds finest, i was hype since the first trailer
my god i want to be ignorant again
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>>90030900
A post about someone talking about how the last 3 MCU movies cost less and made more than all of DCEU, when the original comment was about merchandise.
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>>90026905
besides Arkham and MK: DC edition what else is there?
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>>90030900
>You fucking wish.
The last 3 MCU movies cost a hundreld million less, and made 200 million more than the entire DCEU, and that is a generous estimation where I only doubled the production budget for advertising, even though BvS probably cost much much more to advertise.
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>>90030919
>Marvelfags simply don't make those threads.
holy shit yes they do you delusional faggot
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>>90030965
THIS IS NO MERCHAN
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>>90030919
You're confusing /tv/ and /co/
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>>90030986
>holy shit yes they do you delusional faggot

Marvelfags constantly repost threads trying to defend their films, when their films are universally liked?

No, faggot, they don't. Try again.

At best, they occasionally post threads about how the DCEU is failing... which it is. Probably the worst Marvelfag shitposting was the wave of Sadfleck images right after BvS turned out to be shit, and, frankly, you fuckers deserved that by then.
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>>90031070
>Marvelfags constantly repost threads trying to defend their films
yes

>when their films are universally liked?
kek

>No, faggot, they don't. Try again
No u

>At best, they occasionally post threads about how the DCEU is failing... which it is.
>>90030844

>Probably the worst Marvelfag shitposting as the wave of Sadfleck images right after BvS turned out to be shit, and, frankly, you fuckers deserved that by then.
>>90030358
>>90030415
>>90030403

dumdum
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My meme magic says we will get a Doctor Fate and Zatanna magic buddy film fighting Cthulu with end credit appearances by The Question and Huntress
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>>90031315
KEK shall will it be
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>>90031315
>>90031353
and once again you prove there is no meme magic on /co/
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>>90031362
give it 4 years
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>>90025126
>> We will never have Nicholas Cage as Commissioner Gordon
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>>90028793
His son turns 5 this month. His son is irrelevant.
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>>90029171
Are you some kind of retard?
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>>90023367
>WW is gonna flop

We don't know that.
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>>90032145
whenever /co/ predicts a films box office you can always expect the opposite, regardless of the films overall quality
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>>90031474
I'll give it twice the number of years that passed between Burton's Batman and The Dark Knight and it will STILL never happen
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>>90017674
Snyder has a war project he's put off for a while for all these cape films
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>>90019324
>Squallisdead
ah, memories
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>>90030575
>what is /sug/
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>>90032312
It'll probably do decent. I can't imagine it pulling in less than 80 mil opening weekend.
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>>90032751
I would think 80mil may be a much, but itll probably do around Mos or Ant-Man numbers
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>>90032751
Logan, one of the most popular superheros to normies, with an A lister actor helming the movie and the hype of the great reviews behind it is tracking to open to 70 million, maybe rising to 80 if the hype grows.

What makes you think WW can match this?
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>>90033693
>What makes you think WW can match this?
The problem with Wonderwoman is that her reputation is 2nd hand. As in, everyone has heard of Wonderwoman, but very few people are real Wonderwoman fans. Everyone know that Bruce Wayne's parents were killed in an ally, and that Superman's parents sent their son to Earth. But most people have never head about Wonder Woman's comic origins of being made from Clay.

Wonder Woman's problem is that she is a vague concept to normal people. Her only identity is being female, unless you actually read her comics.
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>>90029766

Why? For making an animated expanded universe that's still revered today?
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>>90034056
Unironically, that's actually exactly why they hate Dini and Timm.

WB executives didn't want to do the DC animated stuff at first because they didn't think anyone would like them.

Dini and Timm convinced them to let them do it, and they did, and the animated series was a success beyond anyone's predictions.

WB executives were assblasted that they were proven wrong, and still are to this day, because if there's anything executives hate more than losing money, it's being shown they were wrong.
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>>90034164

Everything I've heard about the WB executives makes them seem very unfit to running a movie company. Spurning talent because they proved you wrong, wtf?? It's just business, leave your ego at the door.
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>>90035127
That's what ant executive of any business is like anon. They're all about selling themselves so they can move up the next rung in the ladder. They all want to be able to say: "My decisions made this company into a multi-million powerhouse"
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>>90025126
The dreams in which DC's dying are the best I've ever had
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>>90017473
So Campea (who broke the story of Affleck wanting out) said in a new video that the studio also wants Affleck gone. https://youtu.be/FNNrmqc0soc?t=13m21s
>Not only does he want out, the feeling is mutual that WB doesn't want him to be Batman anymore either.
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>>90036151

How long until WB tries again at a (well thought out) DCEU? At this point, give me Snyder. At least he's got a coherent vision. It may be a fucked up vision that only he enjoys, but at least it's a plan and a story.

I really get the feeling that there's no greater WB plan for the DCEU after "Justice League". Before BvS, I hoped that the DCEU was leading up to "Kingdom Come".
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>>90017473
DC continues to fuck up in every way for their movies I see
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>>90034164
Are those WB execs still on that job? One would assume they would have retired by now
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