>creates animations over half a decade, building up a fanbase

>>90014789
At least he's not a Shmorky

>>90014812
That's implying that Aron doesn't wear diapers.

>>90014825
For all the comments he makes about having to go to the bathroom between Grumps episodes, he might actually benefit from diapers.

>>90014789
You forgot...
>flunked out of highschool

I liked him in jon tron's starcade when he turns out to be darth vader.

>>90014789
Does he even animate anymore? Or has he just lost an interest in it?

>>90014789
WHY DO I GOTTA WAIT?

>>90015773
He doesn't even draw anymore. When they needed new Grump heads for the channel, another artist just did them.

>>90014789
>Is there a bigger douchebag?
Yes, OP. (You). (You) are a bigger douchebag.

>>90015888
Wow, how the mighty have fallen.

>>90015387
But he got pulled out by his mom.

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>>90014789
Voice acts for this crockpot of shit.

>>90014789
All I know is that he sucks at video games.

>>90016064
It's the one thing I know in this world that is always true.

>>90014789
Wow OP, were you the winner of the contest or something? Who gives a fuck what he decides to do with his life.

>>90016273
>Who gives a fuck what he decides to do with his life.

Honestly fucking this, you fucking faggots need to get over it already, the dude doesn't want to animate anymore so please move on with your goddamn lives about it, because he clearly has.

>>90015773
It's because animating on the internet has become next-to-impossible to do as a job over the past 5 years, due to Newgrounds dying and YouTube pushing different kinds of trends. I can't blame Arin for this; either make 2-3 minutes of comedy every 4-5 months or make half an hour of general commentary/goofing around on a daily basis.

>>90015941
That's not an excuse, that's the same thing

>>90015773
Sometimes, I know he did a Rocko's Modern Life thing on twitter for Nick a while ago

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>>90014789
>Will eventually come out as Tranny

>>90014789
>Is there a bigger douchebag?
Yeah, but he left Game Grumps in 2013

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>>90016436
ye

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>>90016451
You know I'm right

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>>90016419
This.

Animation is a dead end endeavor in YouTube's current scheme, it would be throwing money out the window if he dropped Game Grumps to go back to animation at this point.

>>90016419
Yeah, there was a Grumps episode where Arin & Ross explained how all of these Newgrounds animators had to go into Let's playing or podcasting because youtube changed their monetizing so you get paid more on a time basis than by just how many views you get. I do know Arin did some animation work on that Jhonen pilot for Disney XD that never took off.

>>90015941
I remember him saying that the high school he went to was this really sleazy, scummy one that his parents thought would do more harm than help, so they pulled him out and made him get a GED instead, which he said was the easiest test he ever had to do.

>>90016447
Oh my god, thank you.

I seriously don't get why people like Jon. He's fucking obnoxious.

>>90016509
Not only that, but Arin pays people to do those 'Game Grumps Animated' segments. He gave up animating in order to make a bunch of money, and now he's sharing the wealth with other animators. I have a feeling that most of Arin's douchiness is part of the act. Not that I think he's some sort of saint or anything. He still sucks at games and his sense of humor is childish by default.

>>90014789
It always irks me how Arin to this day still refers to himself as a animator or as a musician, and how Danny and him have a hissy fit over people calling them content creators.

>>90015888
>didn't even draw his own grump heads
Damn.

>>90014789
>current year
>caring about Arin "More chins than Chinatown" Hanson

>preffering Danny "I am 37 years old and I still play games and make le funny noises for the YT audience" Sexbang to Jon "Jackknife of Rancho Palos" Jafari

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>>90016880
>Preferring Jon to Danny

>>90016880
>Danny makes 'funny noises'
>not Jon 'fucking 300 decibel chimpanzee screeches out of nowhere' Jafari

>>90016741
Because he's funnier than Arin.

>>90016447
>>90016741
>>90016896
Jon was the shit. I just wish there would've been series with Ross and Jon.

>>90016911
That's debatable.

Kind of like debating who's shit smells worse.

>>90016925
Dude Jon started to really be a fucking bummer at one point on the show, he and Arin werent all that enjoyable to listen to at one point the tension was so obvious, Danny is so fucking chill in comparison

>>90016925
>>90016960
My favorite Ross episodes were the ones where he played Sierra games with Danny.

>>90016420
It's literally a separate, different thing from "flunking".

>>90016801
>I have a feeling that most of Arin's douchiness is part of the act.
... isn't that... really fucking obvious?

>>90016976
Honestly Danny and Ross were the golden combo, I miss them playing together

>>90016880
Of course, I fucking love Danny. He's sweet and he doesn't screech like a hooligan.

>Jon will never come back
>they'll never finish Sonic '06

>>90014789
How can you even have the effort to give a fuck? That's like, the least offensive grievance imaginable.

>>90016986
>... isn't that... really fucking obvious?
Well... Arin has multiple levels of douchiness, some more obvious than others. Like a douche onion.

>>90016992
Everyone paired with Ross is a pretty good combo desu, it's funny seeing him compare playing with GG and playing with his wife Holly on her channel, he's incredibly chill.

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>>90017014
I can live with that.

>>90017017
Yeah but is he a douche in any way that actually matters.

>>90017023
Pairs, yes, but when they do Grumpcade and have 3 or more players, Ross becomes the annoying one.

I still don't get the Arin is a douche thing. Literally nothing said in this thread makes him a douche.

>>90017040
I liked the ones they did with The Completionist

>>90017038
Can't argue with that.

>>90017045
He's a douche because he doesn't take my advice on how to effectively play video games!

Gosh, it steams me up!

>>90017040
In general though three people is too much for a let's play (with some rare exceptions).

>>90017045
Basically he's a very impulsive and laissez fare guy and it shows in everything he does, from playing videogames like a spaz to voicing his opinions without thinking it through.

>>90016741
>OMG TY XD
Off yourself Dannyfag, preferably while being forced to listen to another poorly sung and unentertaining Starbomb track.

>>90017051
I'm sure there were a few good ones in there, I probably just don't remember them.

Also, I don't watch her channel, but Holly seems like a bit of a saint for all the stuff she has to put up with on Ross's behalf. When she brought out the Cinnamon/butterscotch pie during the Undertale playthrough, she became a goddess in my eyes.

>>90017076
Got a salty jonfag over here

Honestly, Arin seems like a chill guy who most people know for his on-screen persona. Yeah he can be obnoxious, but a lot of interviews I've seen of him make him seem more aloof than genuinely douchey.

Speaking of Grumps, what the hell's with Jontron's latest videos? Ever since he got his own sitcom set to film, they just aren't funny anymore. The only funny moment in that Christmas with the Cranks review was when he interviewed that black homeless guy.

Jon is a drunk piece of shit who breaks people's things because he thinks it's funny.

>>90017094
>salty
Upvote <3

>>90017076
Wow sorry you can't get over some guy who left an internet show half a decade ago and now barely updates his own thing maybe once every two months.

>>90017023
He raged a bit hard on their Shovel Knight co-op (Holly actually had to force him to take an ice cream break) but usually he's chill.

>>90017076
Too bad. If I off myself, it'll be to his heartfelt rendition of The Last Unicorn.

The man may look like a living toilet brush, but I do love his voice.

>>90017093
CommanderHolly

She's a bit odd, but incredibly endearing.

>>90017107
Maybe you shouldn't have told him that he could break it, you sperg.

Why does Arin get shit for not animating for YouTube anymore but every member of the Sleepycabin gets a pass for it?
I love them both but /co/ seems to have a serious bias against Arin for some reason I've never been able to understand.
I mean, it's not like Oney is any less of a letsplayer than Arin these days, psychicpebbles is a podcaster, Spazkid is a twitchstreamer. I don't know what the rest of them are doing really but it sure as hell isn't producing internet cartoons, so why the hate for Arin?
It's not even as though he's alone in this on Game Grumps. Ross has followed the exact same career path but Ross seems to get a pass as well. And they're both working on that GameOverse show, so neither of them has completely given up on animation, they're just not doing it for YouTube anymore, like pretty much every other NewGrounds era animator.

>>90017133
>his heartfelt rendition of The Last Unicorn.
That was some pretty good shit

>>90017145
Because Arin's popular and successful, while Oney has to live in his and Suzy's house.

>>90017145
Wasn't Ross planning his own cartoon for a while now?

>>90017111
And yet everything his constipated ass occasionally shits out is better than anything Danny has been a part of.

Fuck, even Jon's Fireworks music video is easier to listen to than Danasally's """singing""".

>>90017133
Have you considered acquiring recordings of dying cats to help you sleep? Pretty much the same thing musically.

>>90017159
Still is, last I checked

>>90017141
Dude, what are you even talking about? He wrecks stuff without asking in several videos with others.

>>90017157
Yeah, wasn't he sleeping on their couch for a long time? I don't follow Oney, but I recall them mentioning it a few times on Grumps.

>>90017159
That's what I'm talking about with GameOverse. It's Ross' show but Arin's helping him with it.

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>>90017165

nice b8 m8

>>90017165
>And yet everything his constipated ass occasionally shits out is better than anything Danny has been a part of.
Nah his videos have gotten boring and predictable.

>>90016801
Not him, but I never thought the guy was a douche.
Where does that perception come from?

Personally, my beef with him was that he sucks at vidya but made a big thing out of examining them. But that was ages ago.

>>90017165
You mean the song that he stopped halfway through and just started talking because he couldn't handle any more?

Get off the internet, Jon. You're drunk.

>>90017096
The only interview I've seen of him made him look like a faggot.
https://youtu.be/pGevhBNXTUs?list=PLC343400D5136975A

>watching Game Grumps
>ever

You guys are doing it wrong.

>>90017179
Oh, ok. I didn't know Arin was involved.

>>90017201
Eh might as well do whatever the fuck I want at this point

>>90017075
1. Nearly half of the world's population is very impulsive

2. Playing video games like a spaz does not merit him being called a douce, because at the end of the day his entire purpose is to entertain the audience. Which he does by being bad at games.

3. I challenge you to give me an example of him voicing his opinions without thinking it through.


All in all i'm almost sure all of this comes from a place of jealousy or unfulfillment on your end.

>>90017145
They're all animating RIGHT NOW

>>90017228
Can I watch?

>>90016960
>Not having Jon and Danny on game grumps doing duets and breaking into song

>>90016960
It hasn't all been gold with Arin and Danny either, a lot of the playthroughs are boring slogs. It's just more noticeable with Jon because his stay as a Grump was shorter.

>>90017217
Chill out Arin, I never said I find him a douche, I just described the traits that may make him unpleasant to others.

Also,

>>90017165
>Liking Jon "Jew Strangler" Jafari
are you literally a Hitler?

>his complete lack of knowledge and inability to play 3D Zelda has ruined Zelda discussion for years to come
Feels bad man

>>90016896
did i tell you about the time i smoked weed.
i did?
ill tell you again anyways

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>>90017253
I know it's not always gold with Arin and Danny, like there are episodes where so little is done because Arin is going on a rant about something while he plays the game
>Arin rips into the newer Terminator movie for an entire episode of Pokemon Sun

But I can forgive boring, because some episodes go down and others pick up easily, the tension that Jon and Arin had going on was so goddamn obvious and uncomfortable, I stopped watching any of their videos after one point, only went back when I heard he left out of curiosity.

>tfw a comment you made on /co/ was seen by the members of Sleepcabin and brought up in the podcast regarding how much it possed them off
Atleast sempai noticed me, r-right?

>>90017286
So weird how most of my friends who used to think Jontron was cool suddenly turned heel and think he's a Nazi (even though Jon's not even white).

>>90017304
>lets get into an argument for a solid 5 minutes about this game and then I'll be bitter for the rest of the playthrough
>Hacks up a lung

>>90017317
I'm not sure where the 'Jon is a Nazi' thing started, but I kind of wish I had a copy of that 'I don't agree with you, but I'm also pretty sure you're not a Nazi' sign.

Danny is undefendable, he doesn't even LIKE video games

>>90017322
Are you talking about Jon or Arin?

>>90017352
Follow the conversation and understand the obvious that this is about Jon

Arin does also fall into that category but now at least there arent TWO of them

>>90017317
He said something about negative SJW's recently that made the rounds on YouTube and social media, so maybe they're bitching about that?

I know Aron is something of an SJW these day (sorry, can't think of a better term), but what about Danny?

>>90017349
Sure he does. He's loving paper Mario right now.

In fact, I've noticed he's getting more into them lately.

>>90017359
Also Arin and Dan rarely ever get into fights over how to play the game, Danny is always happy to pull up a guide whenever Arin starts to get too frustrated and pissy

>>90017364
Danny has some SJW tendencies, but he's too mellow to be a dick about it.

>>90017364
He appeared on Sargon of Akkads stream the other day and talked about Trump and other shit. If you listen to the podcast he even says he "hates Republicans" and leans more as a Libertarian than anything.

>>90017364
>I know Aron is something of an SJW these day (sorry, can't think of a better term), but what about Danny?

Arin is really not an "SJW" he himself is just a bit out of the loop when it comes to social politics, but he does have leftist opinions. To be honest he's just a bit naive I wouoldn't call him a SJW. Danny isn't one either. People throw this term around and on anything remotely left supporting.

>>90017379
>some

>>90017364
Danny said that he was fine if people he knew voted for Trump, and generally abstains from making the show political.

>>90017014
The game itself isn't finished.

>>90017389
Yeah, like he wants to be politically correct, but doesn't care enough to enforce it.

Then again, he also kind of flip-flops as the mood strikes him.

>>90017322
>lets get into an argument for a solid 5 minutes about this game and then I'll be bitter for the rest of the playthrough
The clashing was often what made it interesting, even if Jon was very poor at formulating his arguments. Now we have Arin ranting about a game for a solid five minutes with Danny just going "Oh, yeah?" because he doesn't know what Arin is talking about unless it's the dozen NES and SNES games he's familiar with.

>>90017377
I think the guide comes out too soon these days. At least try a little bit to figure things out.

>>90017444
The only thing worse than that was Just The Arins.

>>90017471
Would you still like Jon around if he wasn't paired up with Arin?
Jon and Danny or Jon and Ross for example. Or on Steam Train/Grumpcade where it's a random group.

A lot of times I feel like it should be Danny playing the games instead of Arin, especially games Arin had already played and is salty about.

Dan can actually experience the game

>>90017317
In fairness, Jon might be one of the worst people I've ever seen when it comes to getting his point across on the internet.
When he gets into a rant on twitter, it reads like the insane ramblings of a homeless man. I'm pretty sure he only tweets political stuff when he gets drunk, and that's a terrible idea when you have a large audience.

>>90017506
I only catch the occasional playthrough these days but it doesn't seem like Danny plays AT ALL anymore. Am I wrong?

>>90017315
What comment/episode was this?

>>90017500
I think you might be confusing me with someone else in this thread. I'm one of the guys who thinks Jon is a screechy phlegmetic retard. I'd rather not hear him at all, if I had the choice.

But, if I had to answer your question properly, I wouldn't mind seeing Jon with Danny, if only for the novelty of it.

>>90017506
>>90017535
Danny's been doing a lot more lately. He did VR despite it making him barfy just yesterday, and he's been doing surprisingly well on Paper Mario.

>>90017364
I don't think either Arin or Danny are that political really. Danny's views on social justice/sexism are fairly antiquated in a way. Not in a mean way but he's very chivalrous, he always thinks that women should be protected and defended to a fault. It's hard to explain but it doesn't really come from a typical "men are always wrong" SJW perspective but his outlook is more "women are delicate and I should look after them". It's kind of sweet in a weird, old fashioned way.

>>90017535
He's playing Paper Mario last I checked

>>90017555
>I wouldn't mind seeing Jon with Danny, if only for the novelty of it.
>tfw singing duet never

>>90017581
I don't really think that would work at all. it would be like pairing a perfectly tuned violin with a set of bagpipes filled with snot.

>>90017618
Yeah Jon seems to only sing ironically, his Fireworks video came off like he really didn't want to do it, just paired with fun varying animation

>>90017549
I think it was either S2E24 or 25.
Basically, it was after that Lakewood Plaza game app came out for Cartoon Network, Niall was listed in the credits. There was a sleepycabin thread and people were ragging on Niall for being a lazy guy who doesn't do anything and I made a comment about how he secretly had the most secure job by working with CN. Zach got pissed.
In my defense, they exaggerate what I said in the podcast, they make out like the comment said that the rest of them weren't working their asses of as well. They probably confused it with some other comments.
It was pretty funny hearing people talking about some random comment I made anonymously months prior.

Dan is a scumbag. He fell ass backwards into success. Beforehand he came from an afluent family that allowed him to travel. He turned into a degenerate pothead that did nothing even after his parents paid his way through college. Even then he fucked up getting arrested like the fucking brick stupid manchild he is. his singing sucks and his vocals are processed to hell and back. His comedy has the depth of a kiddie pool and he's a fucking coward by making passive agressive liberal bullshit comments but follows it always with a "I don't wanna get political". fuck that guy.

>>90017639
All that just for (You)'s?

Well alrighty here you go then.

>>90017575
the typical white man's burden most liberals have.

>>90017349
I really like Danny but this is a problem.
I remember watching an episode and Arin had to explain that the PS4 was being released next month and Danny was all "Oh, is it? That's nice."
That's not something you should need to explain on a video game show.

>>90017639
I can't refute much of what you say... most of it, though seen through an extremely negative lens, has a ring of truth to it.
Dan's had an amazingly lucky life, and he's pretty humble about it. He's been through a lot of ups and downs, and come out of it a better person for it. Now he gets to play video games for a living and make music, and he's super chill. So, if Dan's your idea of a scumbag, I can't wait to hang out with more scumbags. Scumbags are interesting people, apparently.

>>90017659
Yeah, in a way. He was effectively raised by three women as well, so I think that and being a child of the 80s goes some way to explaining his position.
I don't think he's a bad person for holding those opinions or anything, I think it's just a by product of being so muh older than his contemporaries.

>>90017677
Or he thought the Wii used memory cards or that he didn't know about Year of Luigi. It's amazing how in the dark he is about video games when his job is playing them.

>>90017677
Dan's not really into AAA games, though. Being up to date with the latest video game news isn't his thing, and the hardware doesn't interest him. He's more excited to play games that have charm to them, and that seems pretty genuine to me.

>>90015503
I thought they hated each other now.

>>90017093
>>90017140
Holly is a good person

>>90017751
I don't think they ever did.

>>90017732
Having Dan around is like how every cartoon needs a 'newbie' character there so that the experts can explain to him (and thereby us) what's going on. Sometimes it can be annoying, but other times, you get that sense of discovery from him, where he gets impressed or excited by something that's old news to us. Also, Arin's occasionally used Dan's naive nature for comedic effect.

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>>90016447
>Shit taste, the post.

Good work.

>>90017787
>what is updog

>>90017638
What the hell. I don't remember that at all.

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>>90014789
The cunt can't commit to anything.

>>90017787
Danny not knowing who Shiek was was without a doubt, the only good thing about the OoT playthrough.

Aight.

So what the fuck happened between Jon and Arin?

I remember some guy on reddit figured out the exact timeline of events, to the extent that even Jon commented on it, but he didn't say anything about what happened and neither did the guy who made the post.

Was Jon figuring out that Arin is really scummy and just didn't want to work with him anymore, or what?

>>90017745
I think there's a difference between not caring for AAA games and being completely ignorant of a next gen console's impeding release. Especially when your job has essentially been "console gamer" for the last 3-4 years.
Game Grumps generally don't play any AAA games anyway, so that's neither here nor there.
I like the guy but in video games terms, him joining the show has forced a dumbing down. With Jon, you wouldn't need explanations on simple things, it was just assumed that the audience, like the host, had an understanding of the subject matter, that isn't the case with Dan.
Not saying that the show is worse but it's certainly less gamer oriented.

>>90017768
>>90017140
>>90017093
The only thing Holly loves more than birbs is Ross

>>90017751
>>90017773
As far as I'm aware, it was an amicable split. The few times they've mentioned Jon that I recall, Arin's treated him respectfully. I vaguely recall one time when Dan was jokingly sassing Jon (on the show, not to his face), and you could tell that Arin pretty much shushed him non-verbally.

>>90017845
>>>/r/conspiracygrumps

>>90017796
I dunno, what's up with you, dog?

>>90017855
It's hilarious how much Feathers hates Ross

>>90017768
She's tumblr incarnate. Dyed hair, vegetarian, quirky snowflake personality, etc

>>90017845
I doubt anyone really knows, but the most obvious answer that everyone ignores in favor of cuck memes, is that Jon was tired of GameGrumps and wanted to work on his personal stuff again.

>>90017810
There was a whole bit when they were saying how much they hated 4chan. I can't remember if it was Mick or Jeff but one of them absolutely despises us.

>>90017855
They're perfect for each other in every way, I cry sometimes thinking about their love for each other

>>90017851
I think that's a completely fair statement, but I think I prefer it that way.

>>90017890
And yet endearing as all hell

>>90017893
>and wanted to work on his personal stuff again.
Then why the fuck does he never upload anything?
Checkmate, cuck.

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>>90017851
>Not saying that the show is worse but it's certainly less gamer oriented.
So it makes sense that /co/ loves it so much. I've never seen such a strong Danny defense force. I even kind of like the guy but it's still weird to see.

>>90017855
Has anyone ever noticed that Ross's movements are somewhat bird-like? I wonder if that's a factor.

>>90017890
and you're faggot incarnate, posting on a grumps thread complaining about people you've never once met before

>>90016741
He can be

But a lot of his monologue humor is actually really well done

>>90017927
>and you're faggot incarnate
RUDE

>>90017904
And I respect your opinion and see that it is as equally valid as my own.

Let us both now bid each other "faggot" and part ways, as is tradition.

>>90017886
Never thought I'd get so much joy out of watching a grown man get harassed by a pigeon

>>90017916
Not that guy, but do you ever release creative works of your own? Content creators often struggle to create, for many different reasons.

>>90017916
The last video he put out was around chirstmas time.

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>>90017927
>implying you have met any of the people mentioned
>inb4 some stupid made-up story about you randomly noticing the guy whose dick you were sucking at the latest con faggot group fuck session happened to be Egoraptor, who now casually texts you because you're a submissive bottom fag

>>90017918
Danny is love

And Jon is love

And Arin is love

but Ross can fuck off

>>90017936
I can't argue, since I don't watch his non-Grumps work. You're likely very correct. On Grumps, however, I don't like him at all.

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>>90017922

>Has anyone ever noticed that Ross's movements are somewhat bird-like?

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>>90017209
I like the way you think, m8

>>90017975
Ross is great you best be joking

>>90017951
Well said, dear faggot.

>>90017975
This is the true correct opinion.

I haven't watched this shit in forever.

What happened to Barry?

>>90017986
No? Just me?

A bit of twitchy awkwardness?

>>90018013
They're both their own brand of awkward that works well together

>>90018008
Barry's still around, but I haven't seen him do much lately. He was in the Xmas commercial, I can't think of what else besides that.

>>90018020
Truly, birds of a feather.

>>90018023
He's got that new "How Bout This Game" show on Grumpout that's actually not bad at all

like a less shitty, less grating, less retarded sequelitis about game design aspects.

>>90017096
>what the hell's with Jontron's latest videos? Ever since he got his own sitcom set to film, they just aren't funny anymore
I personally don't have that opinion but I know a lot of people do.
I think it's an issue of relatability. It's easier to relate to a guy making videos out of his bedroom than it is a guy who has his own studio set and a lot of Jon's humor is dependent on the audience relating to him and his experience of whatever movie/game he's reviewing.
It's also a case of expectations. Having a wacky, reaction comedy skit with props and costumes is funnier when it's just in someone's bedroom because the frivolity juxtaposes the mundane surroundings. That's lost on a big set because the audience is conditioned to expect that sort of thing in that environment.

>>90018031
Oh yeah, that's right. Haven't watched them yet. So they're decent? I might check them out sometime.

>>90018008
Barry was funnier when he didn't speak

>>90018076

Barry speaks now? Boo.

He was great in his stream of consciousness style editing.

>>90018076
I like him in the games paired with Ross

>>90018057
Definitely worth checking out. He seems to be actually somewhat knowledgeable about design etc.

I watched his Skyward Sword one despite actually enjoying that game and agreed with a lot of the points he brought up that I hadn't considered.

>>90017890
I'm probably /pol/ incarnate compared to everyone ITT, but I'll say that's not really true. She honestly seems incredibly down to earth, level headed, and logical. She mainly keeps to herself and her hobbies, doesn't show off, virtue signal, or act self-righteous/argumentative at all. She's a loving wife. One of those cases where you shouldn't judge the book by its cover too quickly.

>>90018076
I agree, but that's just because he's not very good at improv. As yellow text and clip art, on the other hand, he's hilarious.

>>90018090
Nothing good lasts forever

>>90018090
>Barry speaks now

Barry has spoken for the last...idk three or so years

>>90017897
Man I must have either somehow missed an entire segment, passed out, or gotten amnesia. I need to rewatch it all.

>>90017992
I have immense repect for Ross as an animator. His passion for his art is genuinely inspiring and I could watch and listen to him animate and talk about animation for hours.
But I think he's annoying as fuck as a letsplayer.

>>90018098
If even /pol/ can sense what's great about Holly, then she's a prime candidate for sainthood.

>>90018109

That can't be right.

Barry didn't speak before Jon left, and when Jon left that's when I stopped watching and that has yet to be three years ago unless we are rounding up by like eight months.

>>90018125
I'm listening to them all for a second time now, I love them. I hope Schmucks is even have as good.
Stamper a best

>>90018130
You'd better check the time circuits on your DeLorean, Doc.

>>90017677
You know, maybe having someone be naive about videogames actually ADDS to the show.

His playthrough of Paper Mario wouldn't be half as fun without his sense of discovery and accomplishment in doing even relatively basic shit.

>>90018126
I enjoy him more when he's playing with Holly on her channel

>>90018126
Ross's likability fluxes heavily depending on who he's playing with.

>>90018130
Bro.

Bro time has slipped away from you.

>>90018150
It has its pros and cons... I keep yelling at the screen for him to jump more and hammer less, but for some reason he won't listen.

>>90017317
although I don't really think Jon is a nazi, you can not be white and still agree and identify with neo-nazism

>>90018170
Ross and Arin can go from incredibly annoying together, to actually interesting to listen to when they get into the right topic, I loved listening to them talk about YouTube and animation, other times they're an unbearable combo

>>90016896
I couldn't care less about the green turd or the brown turd they both are awful.
What i do care however is how my favourite fanimation came out of the jon era:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1bwBCZQRqE

>>90018193
I think Ross is worst when he's trying to be funny or deliberately trying to annoy his friends. When he's telling a story or talking about something he's passionate about, or completely nailing it in King's Quest, that's when he's the best.

>>90018185
Jon is not a nazi, but he has naive libertarian views that turn everything into an attack against freedom. I can see where he comes from since he's always been a guy who doesn't like getting involved and he got pulled into a lot of controversies in the past, but I still don't agree with him.

>>90018194
God there are so many great GG animated, I can't pick a favorite

>>90018237
I don't really get this whole new political BS going on with him. Like, of all things you could talk about involving Jon Jafari, you focus on the political shit?

>>90018279
I hear he's sort of digging his own grave with that one, can't honestly say for certain

>>90018193
The only time Brian has been entertaining is when he played with Ross.

Well, that and Burger Time.

>>90018194
he's the /v/ artist. Wish he'd grace this site again.

>>90018291
Gotta disagree. Something about his deadpan delivery and relentless shitting on others just cracks me up.

>>90018237
>he has naive libertarian views that turn everything into an attack against freedom
God, that sums it up so perfectly.

>>90018291
Who's your Daddy with Ross and Brian was goddamn amazing

>>90018341
Sure, if you're into that sort of thing. But, it sometimes falls flat with the other Grumps, while Ross just rolls with it. That babysitting game they played was hilarious.

>>90018279
It's a delicate period. We made the mistake of associating equality rights with politics, so now people who cared about the former are desperate to find enemies like in the latter.

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>>90018338
3AB as far as I know used to visit the site till 2015.
He was less vocal about it however
If he visits or not still at this point is irrelevant I'm just glad from what he gave us, for better or worse.

>>90018338
Why did he leave in the first place?

>>90016509
But with the YouTube monetizing thing, why did that stop Arin from drawing entirely? Why does he not do some animations on the side on top of doing LPs for money?

Or just start a Patreon?

I think this is the nicest thread I've ever seen that began with a pic of Egoraptor

>>90018237
>jon is a nazi
and you're a derelict leftist with no brain, fair?

>>90018445
He's helping Ross with that video game cartoon he's trying to pitch.

>>90018419
Nobody knows, he just grew tired or lacked the time is my guess since it wasn't a sudden thing, at least around here, in DA he just dropped that place from one day to another, but it's pretty obvious in there why is that.

>>90018445
I doubt he's stopped drawing completely, it's probably just more of a hobby at this point

>>90018451
Nice reading comprehension, Anon.

>>90018445
Why would Arin need a Patreon?

>>90018402
When will people realize that everything is just a set of interrelated events, and that shit just sort of happens, rather trying to find a super-villain in every corner of life?

>>90018445
Its come up from time to time. He just doesn't have the drive for it anymore. Also running Grumps and other projects taking up loads of time.

>>90018469
Btw in his latest stream with Ghost Satellite and Alex Hirsch, he made a simple animation and while he lacks practice, he still got it.

How come Justin Roiland knows EVERYBODY?

>>90017900
She pair-bonded with him as strongly and loyally as a pigeon.

arin's wife is a scammer

>>90018541
He seems like a kinda fun guy to be around, which I'm sure helps him with networking.

>>90016896
I never thought someone thought Danny was better than Jon. Danny sucks.

>>90014789
He wanted to make money and live comfortably like anyone else.
The ones who stuck by animation and even newgrounds have my respect though.
youtube was a mistake, turned up to 11 by google messing with search results to push their products ahead and blacklisting newgrounds from making ad revenue.

>>90014789
Yet still less of a faggot than Jon.

>>90018341
Oh who here has a doctorate. Can any of you dum dums explain physics. Guess its up to me then.

Golly I miss him and Barry Steam trains that was an excellent back and forth.

>>90018217
He just has that problem when his sociopath tendency gets the better of him and gets too far in people's misery being funny.

>>90015888
Is the "another artist" ross or did they literally outsource it to an external person?

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>>90017111
>half a decade ago

>>90017253
>his stay as a Grump was shorter.

holy shit really? how long has it been? what year is this? where am i?

>>90016960
Danny is chill to the point where he's just boring to watch, his dynamic with arin is just being a yes-man or reading a walkthrough because they're too scared of the comments section now

Game grumps has been a soulless company for years now

I don't know how anyone can be mad over Egoraptor at this point. John left almost 4 years ago now, Girlchan In Paradise hasn't had a new episode in almost 6, and Sequelitis lost any impact the second he started doing LPs.

He's more irrelevant than something to get fussy over now. He was a icon of that era but lord, I just can't. Even typing this is more effort than i want to give Arin.

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>>90019036
In reality it's been more than that.
It's been 7 years already
And the funny part in all that?
that ordeal wasn't on the last animation he ever made
he kept on making animations for 3 years after that.

>>90018683
Can this "Jon is a faggot" meme just stop? What did Jon do exactly?

>>90017751
They do. Something happened between them at E3 which led to a hastening of Jon's departure, which was gonna happen soon, but not quite that soon. Arin handled the break-up extremely unprofessionally and just let rumors foster for years, refusing to even really mention Jon. Even now Arin hasn't really said much other than "we broke up because of creative differences." They got over it or whatever and Arin was invited on Jon's star wars show where he played Darth Vader and they had this little reunion scene thing.

>>90019340
>Arin was invited on Jon's star wars show where he played Darth Vader and they had this little reunion scene thing.
That episode was genuinely beautiful. I know Zach said he had some issues when he was writing StarCade but that last one made the effort worth it

>>90017315
Dude back when Jon was on Game Grumps I made a comment on /v/ that they talked about in multiple episodes.

Aladdin Part 4 and one of the Sonic 06 episodes they discuss a comment I made about "What it must be like for Jon" along with some bullshit about how Arin had more accomplishments in life, one that I made because /v/ was being faggots about Jon whole praising Arin endlessly

>>90016896
Atleast Jon actually interested in games. Danny is just a normie that doesn't care and has nothing to add besides weird stories from his life and unfunny jokes. Its so obvious he doesn't give a shit but he really puts in effort I guess

>>90014789
>build up fame from early newgrounds animations
>make a couple more animations on youtube
>just when he is starting to get better drop animation entirely and start mking lets plays
>never do animations again
>feature work by better people on his channel
>hired an actual team for his music video
why do people like him again?

>>90020405
>Atleast Jon actually interested in games.
movies

>>90017751
jontron is too chill to hate losers
peanut butter pedwiepie who has been muching from him forever sperged out over jon not being a liberal and said they were never friends and then appologized and jon just accepted it without giving him shit

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>>90016419
>4chan made fun of him forever over being too edgy, not being funny enough and selling out to the brony fandom
>pretty much the only animator left who survives on youtube

>>90016447
but arin is still there

in all seriousness though, I have no problem with Danny other than the fact his chill demeanor forced Arin to be the vocal one instead of the straight man like when he was with Jon (with obvious exceptions like him flipping out during Sonic '06).

>>90020505
>Jon can't have multiple interests
And that contradicts my post how...?
Danny has gone off saying he really has no interest in games.

>>90014789
maybe the winner of the contest was a real shitbag and aron didnt want to work with them

>>90020721
Or maybe you're just making up excuses to justify Arin being a lazy pos

>>90017897
It was mostly Mick and Corey. Niall thinks /v/ is the best board.

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>>90016741
>>90016447
Oh gee I wonder why /co/mblr doesn't like Jontron anymore:^)

>>90019272
People are mad at him for shitposting on an autist's podcast

>>90020858
Well, I should have known /co/ was full of faggots.

>>90020905
/co/ is /co/mblr and they're really butthurt he went on a podcast that's part of the "skeptic anti-sjw" community. Jon isn't even really political, and to be honest Arin is 2x more obnoxious with his fetal alcohol syndrome girlfriend.

>>90020940
>fetal alcohol syndrome girlfriend.
I like the fact that no matter your stance on Arin, Jon or Danny, literally everyone hates Suzy.

>>90020740
saltycontestwinner.jpeg

>>90014950
you do realize arin shit his pants in the middle of the game grumps episode? you do realize that happened, right?

>>90020987
She's really hateable.

>>90021068
Her sisters hotter too.

>>90020487
>feature work by better people on his channel
>hired an actual team for his music video
that sounds like good business sense?

>>90020487
>WAHH! Why isn't he living the life I want him to live!
Those last 2 points are actually good things. He's using the money and fame he has to support grassroots animation.

>>90021023
this is you right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6spOAbxhg

>>90016436
>>90016455
Would tear that asshole up

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>>90019175
>Its been seven years
I... I don't believe you!

>>90020940
>Jon isn't even really political
Jon isn't political because he's really bad at it. Every time he talks about anything he ends up looping it around to "muh SJWs, muh freedom of speech!".
Not that he's necessarily wrong on those points but he's simply too ill-informed to see beyond them. He can't see a bigger picture, so he falls back on blaming SJWs for everything he doesn't undestand, in the same way SJWs blame "muh patriarchy" for everything.
Compare it to someone like psychicpebbles who's no scholar or anything but at least keeps himself informed on current events and has an interest in global politics. If you disagree on him with something, you can at least understand what reasoning his stance is informed by. Jon's political decision making seems to be based on a gut instinct, followed by blaming it on his usual suspects.

>>90021335
You gay

>>90021469
>Jon's political decision making seems to be based on a gut instinct, followed by blaming it on his usual suspects.
That and he believes everyone around him without question.

The thing about Jon is that he's very much a non-political person who got dragged into political discourse and now can't stop because he's getting praise from the people around him while snarking at the people who hate him for having opinions as a whole. I can relate to that because I'm not particularly political and if someone asked me to extrapolate my opinions on things they'd sound very uninformed and emotional because I don't take enough of an interest in current world happenings to give a shit.

But honestly I don't see this as a problem, he can do whatever he wants so long as he keeps his political stuff out of his channel, and he's very good at separating his personal and professional lives (there are people who still don't know that Jon has had a girlfriend since before he left Game Grumps).

>>90021624
>there are people who still don't know that Jon has had a girlfriend since before he left Game Grumps

>girlfriend

Barry is not a girl's name.

>>90016419
Not to mention I think Ross said that he's getting more money working on his show with Twitch revenue than he'll probably get from posting it on YouTube alone.

The monetization model for YouTube is heavily against the animators now.

>>90019272
After the Nazi punching incident he went full "that chick that made Alfred alfer" and became a national socialist(Nazi).

>>90021469
he seemed really well informed on the sarkon thing he was on

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>>90021692
Kek.

But yeah, her name is Nicole and near as I can tell she's never once been in a JonTron video.

>>90016447
Jon was funny as fuck on Game Grumps, but he's been radicalized and by his own admission he's had these views for "about 4 years" so the timeline matches up with his leaving the show. Shame, he fell for alt-right propaganda.

>>90021735
I'm no animator, but if anybody were to ever listen to me, I'd suggest that animators release one complete animation at the beginning of a month, then over the next ~30 days release the dailies of the animation, showing the creative process from start to finish. You could easily intersperse vlogs or other videos in the interim, of course, but releasing a full animation and the dailies allows for the regular posting of videos that YouTube loves and subsequently allows animators to work on animations and not have to worry about uploading something. They just have to remember to export a video at the end of the day.

>>90021806
She hasn't.
Also:
>Pewdiepie
>not Leafy

>>90021758
Speaking of Emily, Jon @ around 1:07.

https://youtu.be/-_N9iTOdI5s

>>90021842
Unfortunately you have to be really good at describing the process. Ross probably would because he's had practice and he'd probably have Arin around to help with commentary, but smaller animators won't have that benefit.

The problem is figuring out how to get more animators on the scene doing more animations, not the ones who are already there doing them.

>>90021624
>>90021469
Seriously, he fucking agrees with Sargon of Akkad, who once made a petition to be sent to "Universities" to "Stop social justice courses," without detailing what those courses are even once. This guy considers himself an intellectual. He got BTFO in that debate with that feminist PhD too.

>>90021058
Yeah, both he and Ross need diapers.

>>90017145
Here's the thing: Sleepycabin failed and Game Grumps is still making money

Any questions?

>>90021957
Yeah, i like the guy but jon is kind of a dumbass
Doesn't help that he also pisses people off on purpose to have a laugh

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>try to get back into my GG shit
>hm there's a paper mario epsiode seems comfy
>literally the only attempts at humor are the "wacky" voice impressions

>okay maybe just that one wasn't great, lets try the CDi one

>Arin just sounds pissed, but not so much that he's mad at the game but moreso like he's mad he's there/being recorded
>Dan has little to no relevant input on the game, doesn't seem like he cares at all what is happening
>goes right back to my shit of watching Sonic 06

both episodes of these series are honestly the equivalent of nobodies doing lets plays who only have a couple of subscribers, rather than Arin who has basically given up one of his passions to make an easy buck. It's sad really.

>>90022012
He's a massive contrarian. It's fine to be skeptical, but when your kneejerk reaction is to just disagree, you end up just being a reactionary fuckwad. Plus he sycophantically agrees with whoever he's streaming with to avoid appearing inferior. He did it whenever Arin went full retard about video games and he does it on Sargon's streams. No wonder everyone who's worked closely with him has decided to cut ties.

>>90021931
You wouldn't have to describe the process with commentary unless you wanted to, as the daily videos would more or less just show off the actual process over time, as well as the evolution of the short from start to finish.

>>90021919
>>90021758
>Emily Youcis
I don't usually like to see internet personalities getting thrown under the bus for their political views but with Emily I really couldn't give a fuck how bad she gets it.
Not because I think her views are particularly terrible but because I'd never heard of her before last year's MAGfest animation panel and she spent the whole time being the most shrill, annoying, loudmouth, unfunny, self-important cunt of what was a complete trainwreck of a panel.

Hating Arin Hanson for game grumps is perfectly acceptable.

Hating egoraptor is not.

Jumping on the Arin hate train is the easiest way to spot newfags that didn't grow up with his animations on Newgrounds

>>90017145
>psychicpebbles is a podcaster

fucking barely. Dude releases such an embarrassingly little amount of content. Hellbenders is not even a thing at all, nearly 5 fucking years and there's not even 10 minutes worth of content there to be seen. And his vagueness with it is really tiring. Also that echo on the JonTron podcast was shoddy as fuck

Atleast Oney is releasing a video every day.

>>90020940
I don't give a shit about Jon's politics because his videos are fucking funny, but the dude is a massive retard for using breitbart of all things to make his political stances.

>>90015773
>>90016475
>>90020578
Youtube is a terrible place for animation. Everything we know now about how they promote video is that, at it's core, you have to:
1) Make videos about things people are already looking for, which means original content is worthless
2) Make videos that are long. The longer the better if people are sitting through it.
3) Post all the time. Once a week or more. The point is to build up a ton of watch time.

It's also important to be click-baity. You need high click through rate, which is why some of the WORST content is super popular on that site.

But if Arin went back to animation, his channel would nose dive and he couldn't afford to live anymore. It doesn't grow. Youtube won't promote it.

HotDiggityDemon is surviving because he's figured out a clever formula to make long, derivative content while still animating. He has his own original stuff, but the 3D rig isn't fully animated and it must save him a lot of time. Otherwise, you notice how he's doing reviews of popular or controversial movies and using titles like "Why Rogue One is about ABORTION". Then his video isn't about abortion, he's just trying to get that high click through rate.

It sucks. Youtube super sucks. There's no point to their system because even if you watch original content more often than you watch anything else, they still blank that shit out and go right back to recommending the latest Orbeez prank video within weeks.

>>90022036
I don't know dude he may just be really easy to influence

>>90022073
>Hating Arin Hanson for game grumps is perfectly acceptable
Ehh. Not liking Game Grumps is fine but the vast majority of people I see who genuinely hate Arin for it are usually just jealous of his job.
Like, if you don't like Game Grumps, the reasonable reaction is to not care, not to hate a man you've never met.

>>90022127
I love Arin but I have no respect for him taking the easy way out at being successful on Youtube by just doing Lets Plays. It just really hurts to see him move away from the one thing he was really good at just to make money.

>>90020578
Max is ridiculously talented since he's been animating for about as long as most posters on here have been alive, but good god damn does he drag himself down with his writing.

That Powerpuff girls video was ace tho if a bit too late to be relevant

>>90022036
>No wonder everyone who's worked closely with him has decided to cut ties.
He fucking deserves it too, the faggot deserves to be fucking jobless and homeless, maybe then he'll finally off himself for being such a shitty human being

>>90022124
He's the kind of guy who defends Dane Cook and Nickelback because everyone shits on them (he did this in a GG episode way back when). He's just a big idiot.

>>90022073
I never found his older animations that funny

>>90022124
Probably, he takes too much at face value.
I remember watching him taking part in a 4-way video cast discussion thing, and political correctness came up as a topic. Jon made a fairly tame statement about disliking censorship and one of the other guys made a very clearly tongue-in-cheek response along the lines of "Woah Jon, you can't say that. You'll upset the internet". Very very clearl joking about it.
Jon genuinely could not tell if he was being serious or not and had to ask him to clarify. He couldn't read the cue at all and took it at face value.

>>90015773
it's impossible to make money as an animator on youtube. even oney has become a career letsplayer now.

>>90022158
>Do let's plays, earn six figures annually
>Do animations. Vanish completely from Youtube as their algorithm marginalizes your work month after month, then get a job at McDonalds

I'm sad to see all the independent animators dying off too, but this is what Youtube wants. It's the environment they've built and they love it this way. They're never going to make animation viable again. I mean, they added an "animation" section, and you know what it was? Family Guy reruns and shit like that. They have zero interest in supporting animators or original content.

>>90022203
I've got the same problem with Sleepycabin. Stamper's aside, I never found any of their cartoons that funny but I think their podcast is hilarious

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>>90017145
Because Arin is successful while the other Newgrounds era animators are scrapping by

Because Arin only animated to do VAs and now that he has GameGrumps and voicing that cat magician from Mighty Magisword, he's less inclined to animate

Because /co/ can't have an original thought to save their life and parrot whatever is popular like the rest of the fuccbois who browse this site

because they feel betrayed that Arin no longer animates, specifically for them anymore and has moved on where the anons haven't

>>90022189
Maybe someone told him that nickelback is good and he took it too seriusly?
At least we agree that he's not a really bright guy

>>90022158
There is absolutely no way to be a successful, independent animator on YouTube these days.
I'm pretty sure him and Ross has talked about it and they both came to the conclusion that now that they aren't dependent on animation for money anymore, it makes more sense to focus on larger projects that don't involve YouTube.
That's why they're doing Gameoverse, the same as Chris and Zach are doing Hellbenders. These are the projects they wanted to do and now have a chance to now that their income isn't based on shitting out Pokemon parodies.

>>90022242
i'm not saying you're wrong, i'm saying i'm sad about it

>>90022262
it's okay to be wrong sometimes

>>90022311
He's just a dumb idiot dunning-krugering his way through life.

I did discover hbomberguy in a fruitless attempt to find evidence that Jon isn't a fucking idiot, though, so that turned out well.

>>90022330 see >>90022339

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>>90018098
I'm probably /pol/ incarnate compared to everyone ITT
>thinks Holly is okay
Then you're a traitor to your own cause
That's the first step towards healing

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>>90020578
>>90022160
The man does know his audience

>>90022339
>i'm saying i'm sad about it
Well!... Fine then!

>>90022339
Corey shouting about Water People and Sanksquatches will always be funnier than Pokemon Spread

>>90022404
Normally I dislike fanart of humanized Burnbot, but this is pretty alright (mostly because it seems like a continuation of her existing design).

>>90022404
I thought someone from the flavor of the week threads drew that
>>90022367
It's better to find him like that instead of finding him because of your unrelenting hate towards fallout 3 like me

>>90018237
>"naive"
>h-he doesn't agree with me so he doesn't know anything
jon's views seem pretty cut and dry, i don't really get how you can call them naive unless you're just being passive aggressive about him not thinking like you

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>>90021469
>>90021624
In your two paragraphs of text you never once brought up an example of why Jon was "bad" at politics, you just said "HE'S AN IDIOT I DON'T LIKE HIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

I suspect it's because if you DO go into specifics you'll be exposed as hopelessly partisan and pathetic

>>90022666
>believes in /pol/ bullshit like "cultural marxism"
>claims you're not oppressed if you can get a big mac
>thinks the founding fathers would kill themselves for a demonstration of protest against illegitimate power
Yeah he's a tard.

>>90022367
>hbomberguy
Seriously? He's just Sargon with a bigger ego and a flipped political perspective. At least Sargon is a bit modest about his shit even if he is a complete idiot, Bomberguy is just some self-righteous loser who's passive aggressive about everything.

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>>90022695
>>believes in /pol/ bullshit like "cultural marxism"
Specifically he believes that SJW culture is hurting creativity and spreading lies - and that much is more than true.
>>claims you're not oppressed if you can get a big mac
That was a joke about how Feminists here support Islam despite Islam being batshit insane. No joke - the leader of the so-called "Woman's March" supports Sharia Law. But no, no it definitely was only a Big Mac. Next time try actually watching the context of what he says instead of intentionally isolating a line to make your opponent seem dumb.

>>thinks the founding fathers would kill themselves for a demonstration of protest against illegitimate power

They would and they did.

>>90022695
I don't even follow Jon's politics, but honestly it seems like the big thing now is to be racist and play victim, regardless of which side of the fence you're on. If you're on the left, White People and White Culture are ruining everything. If you're on the right it's Women or Black People or whatever you're locally most annoyed by.

None of it is informed, but it's all celebrated today. Everyone treats each other like if you don't see eye to eye it's because you're not as educated, even though all the studies people use in these discussions are childish, manipulative, and not scientific.

>>90022695
You have strong thoughts about gender theory, don't ya darling?

>>90022695
>/pol/ bullshit like "cultural marxism"
Get your head out of your ass. It's literally just a way of saying that Marxists values and ideas have ingrained themselves in modern day culture, even if they're harmful or stupid. It's in the same vain as saying cultural consumerism is bad.

>>90022743
>He's just Sargon with a bigger ego and a flipped political perspective.
No, he's really not. He sources his arguments with facts and research. Again, Sargon cries about how "social justice" shit is corrupting colleges when he clearly has not researched a single thing about how anything related to social justice is taught.

>At least Sargon is a bit modest about his shit
Haha, no he isn't.

>even if he is a complete idiot, Bomberguy is just some self-righteous loser who's passive aggressive about everything.

He might be passive aggressive, but he's not wrong. Sargon is way more smug, too.

>>90022666
>In your two paragraphs of text you never once brought up an example of why Jon was "bad" at politics, you just said "HE'S AN IDIOT I DON'T LIKE HIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
I said he wasn't good at expressing his opinions because his opinions don't seem very solid, they seem very emotionally driven and based on "someone said this and it sounds right so it must be true".

Also, I never said I didn't like him. Far from it, I do like Jon, but criticizing the way a person formulates viewpoints doesn't mean I reeeeee every time he says something. Liking someone isn't a binary "like everything or hate everything" system.

>>90022768
>Specifically he believes that SJW culture is hurting creativity and spreading lies - and that much is more than true.

Dude he straight up said that he thinks cultural marxism is real.

>That was a joke about how Feminists here support Islam despite Islam being batshit insane.

But they don't. They just support the first amendment and don't support it only being applied to Christians.

> No joke - the leader of the so-called "Woman's March" supports Sharia Law.
>leader

You mean a single organizer of this giant, million person event. Yeah, I'M the one that's twisting things, not you.

>They would and they did.

No, they wouldn't, and they didn't. Thanks for demonstrating how ignorant you are about history.

>>90022782
This is a middle road fallacy, man. Both sides have their problems but they are NOT equivalent.

>>90022783
Not an argument.

>>90022784
Except that he was emphatically agreeing with Sargon about "the frankfurt school," not using cultural marxism as an ordinary phrase. Stop making excuses.

>>90022808
>facts and research
>shitty obama and biden speeches are facts and research
I'm sure you really appreciate those trigger warnings, huh?

>>90022889
Not an argument.

>>90022897
It is, but you keep telling yourself that.

>>90022812
>Liberals and the minorities started it. Remember all the hand-wringing about how we weren't "truly a post-racial society?"
Not that guy, and I agree that the whole "alternative fact" thing is simply a right-wing reaction to uears of left-wing emotional/anecdotal based politics, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

>>90022913
No, it isn't. You didn't address the claim, you offer no refutation, you have nothing to say. All you can do is shitpost.

>>90022916
>Liberals and the minorities started it. Remember all the hand-wringing about how we weren't "truly a post-racial society?"

>it's okay to believes lies and disregard facts because some women are meanies!

>>90017732
In his defense, the Wii does technically use memory cards. Not to the extent of the PS1/PS2, but the Wii's compatible with SD cards for external storage, and its Gamecube capabilities are still dependent on Gamecube memory cards to save data.

>>90022666
Dude spent 3 whole days whining about the Women's March on Twitter.
I get the criticism but sometimes you've got to chill the fuck out and stop shitting up my feed.

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>>90022367
i'm really not that surprised that someone that looks like this resonates with /co/

>>90022957
Are you arguing with me or agreeing?

>>90022876
>The problems associated with identity politics are not equivalent
But they are, though. They're roughly the same because identity politics is easy. I have an ex who is surrounded by white friends, and you know what she's doing? At first she was all about "feminism, fuck yeah", and it annoyed me because she kept posting about how men are rapists and women are afraid of men, and I always felt like it reflected poorly on me because I was the closest man in her life at the time. How could she have such a bad opinion of men when I'm there so often?

Then after I left her for unrelated reasons, she went further. She started going for "non-white feminism, fuck yeah". At which point she started to shitpost on her Tumblr about how white people are the real problem and how white feminists don't care about people with darker skin. So at this point, because all her friends are white, now she's alienating her feminist friends by shitting on their skin color, and she has to post these rebuttals about "I'm not racist but look at these charts."

Meanwhile I know an actual Neo-nazi and he does THE SAME THING. SAME EXACT BEHAVIOR WITH THE CHARTS AND CONDESCENDING IDENTITY POLITICS BULLSHIT.

And I have to ask, WHY? Why alienate people close to you and drive away all your potential friends? Why burn all your bridges and cut off every hand that's offered to you?

It's because at its base level it's just a very dumb kind of racism that's based on prejudice. There's nothing special about it. It's retarded animal shit, and it's gotten SO popular because everyone can get in on it. On a more complex level the left and right have a lot going on, but where it comes to race and identity, all of this has become just the absolute worst.

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>>90023007
Yeah dude, that's why he's appealing. You nailed it.

Can't believe we don't like such glorious golden gods like Jontron and Sargon.

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>>90022743
>Taking hbomberguy THIS seriusly
Did i miss something?
I just watch his shit for the jokes

>>90023062
Your anecdote doesn't really demonstrate equivalence.

There's a straight up white supremacist on the NSC right now, installed by Trump. Trump's VP straight up supports conversion therapy and that's just one of a host of problems with him. Obama did not put a black supremacist on the NSC. Clinton had a white guy be her VP pick. Surely this shows that one side has a greater negative effect than the other?

>>90023102
I don't "take him seriously." He says some funny stuff and on certain videos says other insightful stuff and he's not a complete fucking idiot like Jontron or Sargon, so he's above them in my book.

>>90023149
>Surely this shows that one side has a greater negative effect than the other?
No, it just tells you which side is in power these days. The white supremacists don't seem more dangerous than the feminists to me these days. Granted, they're both insanely dangerous and the Trump administration has had me nervously checking the news every single morning, but these are all extremists.

People talk about the Nazis, right? But they never understand where the real comparisons lie or what should be frightening. The US can't be shifted over to facism or anything like that. However, the views held by the Nazis when you got down to it were very simple. You had guys like Himmler who was applying the logic of chicken farming to human survival because eugenics was seen as very scientific at the time. Himmler didn't have any understanding of the contemporary criticisms of eugenics or any knowledge of the scientific method.

A lot of these people with "Women's Studies" don't know the scientific method past what they learned in high school either, but they view their racism as very "scientific". And the neo-nazis have their charts and data and think they're being "scientific". This is why they're all awful and frightening, because they're very, very dull people - all of them - and none of them should be allowed to apply their ideals to the real world.

>>90023250
>the Trump administration has had me nervously checking the news every single morning
Why? Not asking about Trump specifically but why do you people let world events affect you so deeply to the point of feeling genuine anxiety over shit that you have no control over?

Being informed is one thing but actually getting nervous over large-scale things is silly unless it actually affects you directly and immediately, which most events thus far do not.

>>90023073
did you send this out on your typewriter

>>90023250
>No, it just tells you which side is in power these days.

But the point is that when the other side was in power, they didn't do shit like this. If, as you say, both sides were equal, Obama should've installed black supremacists, right? But he didn't.

> The US can't be shifted over to facism or anything like that.

Why? Do you think that nobody thought that in Germany? Fascism can happen anywhere. That's why we have to be vigilant about it.

>You had guys like Himmler who was applying the logic of chicken farming to human survival because eugenics was seen as very scientific at the time. Himmler didn't have any understanding of the contemporary criticisms of eugenics or any knowledge of the scientific method.

They still do that, though. "Islam has weird views so we need to ban Muslims" is the same shit. "Government regulations kill jobs so we need to kill the FDA/EPA etc. to help jobs grow" is the same shit. There will always be lines for suckers to justify their idiocy.

>A lot of these people with "Women's Studies" don't know the scientific method past what they learned in high school either, but they view their racism as very "scientific"

Have you actually examined what sociologist PhDs study? Do you know their coursework? Have you read their papers?

>>90016801
Literally every story I've heard about people meeting Arin people have always talked about how the dude is really humble.

>>90023351
>Why does Trump make you nervous
Because I'm age where people tend to settle down. My girlfriend and I are talking a lot about the future. Long term plans. Do we want to commit to each other.

And all of that would be a whole lot more comfortable if I felt like the world were in a more stable condition, but I'm sure that in five years I'm going to start relying a lot more on healthcare. If I have kid, that's going to be expensive. Kids get sick all the time and there's the hospital visit for the delivery.

There are a lot of sincere reasons to be nervous about Trump and what he's doing.