JSA Storytime: Wildcats 3.0

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>>90006215

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>>90006243
this agency is clearly a fine-tuned machine

>>90006215
That's practically a Hiroki Samura cover.

>>90006215
Hello, Storyteller.

Finally, it's almost over! Let's finish this edgelord garbage and move on to something that doesn't make me want to fucking kill myself.

>>90006215
>ZEALOT® CAPTURED BY THE CODA®!
>Only on WildStorm™'s Wildcats™ 3.0!
>From DC Comics©!
lol

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>>90006271
man, I need to finish BotI some time, but I have it in print and I'm too cheap to start hunting down volumes after what is it, 15 or so

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>>90006289
that's 100% deliberate, of course

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>>90006318
>a thousand Psylockes

>>90006318
Of ©ourse.

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>>90006346
they're just diggin' in on this, today

>>90006346
An Elektra too, apparently.

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>>90006366

>>90006215
Marvel and Archie teaming up to put out digest comics sounds like a deal with no downsides.

Archie gets badly need cashflow.
Marvel gets grocery store and gas station impulse buys that have been gone for like a decade now.
Marvel writers might start doing new stories with tighter plotting that works better for digests.
Kids once again get legitimately accessible comics, giving a new generation more chances to get interested.

All around, a good deal.

>>90006346
Who let Claremont guest write?

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>>90006398
I do hope it works

My LCS dude was all "They pushed us so many copies of Mosaic...so many useless copies..." when I asked him about it today

>>90006297
IMO the highlights of the series def come after that so yeah, would strongly recommend it.

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>>90006409
Claremont WildC.A.T.S. was like four issues of his OCs and fetishes

>>90006398
>Marvel writers might start doing new stories with tighter plotting that works better for digests.
It's probably just reprints, familia.

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>>90006466

>>90006346
Griftertron is pretty great.

>>90006366
>FUCK SHIT UP
I'm going to pretend that Grifter got this shirt to parody Ladytron, because otherwise, I'd have to assume actually owns that shirt herself.

Yeah, she's crass and don't give a single fuck, but she's not THAT over the top.

>>90006243
But seriously, reiterating what I said in the last thread: this Creative Team was probably at this point working on the pitch documents for Ben 10 and more money than anyone this side of Millar. Actually, July 2004? They're probably producing it by this point.

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>>90006505
Ben 10 is way after my "watched cartoons" phase, so I know literally nothing about it

>>90006505
It does seem like anyone interested in money or, uh, job security in comics goes after animation or television projects.

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>>90006527
So, Karen Berger's own line at DH, eh? Has a DH imprint ever survived?

>>90006527
It's just a really boring Dial H for HERO ripoff but with aliens.

>>90006466
>>90006491
So is the obvious samurai aesthetic supposed to be that these earth cultures were influenced by the original Kherubim one?

Is there ever any info given on the Coda warpaint and/or meaning of that?

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>>90006548

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>>90006576
As best I remember from long past drunken storytimes, there were some nods to the Coda's setup in Greece and classical Athens, but the katanas are basically Jim Lee Rule of Cool

>>90006548
I mean, if Legend (which had the likes of Art Adams, Frank Miller, John Byrne, Mike Mignola, Walt Simonson and Mike Allred) barely lasted four measly years during DH's heyday...

>>90006436
I can't believe that apparently someone at marvel apparently used the "It's all DC's fault that LCS had a bad quarter because of return-ability" at that conference thing

>>90006398
>Marvel writers might start doing new stories with tighter plotting that works better for digests.

Marvel's released digests before, like the Spider-Girl ones, Marvel Adventures, or Runaways.
I doubt it'll be anything besides "the stories we say are the most popular!"

>>90006548
I think it's pretty neat even if doomed desu. I'd like to see more stuff like Ether or Angel Catbird or w/e out of Dark Horse over their adaptations of other properties. Berger can definitely do the job.

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>>90006633
My main hope is that maybe Berger Books will attract and take what would have been an otherwise competent but middling Image book and elevate it via editing the plot/structure/writing before the artists ever get to work

>>90006658
Was it Spencer? It sounds like something Nick Spencer would say.

>>90006658
But hey, USA Avengers was #1 man. The variants work! We just have to figure out how to cram 50 of them onto every book now...

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>>90006658
LCS dude laughed at that, a serious "Are you kidding me?" He says returnability has been great and they get their numbers right thanks to it.

>>90006436
The last year has not been an enviable one for LCSes trying to exploit the MCU audience I think.

>>90006474
Well, obviously.
And it probably can't even be the most current stuff getting reprinted, because can you imagine buying a digest with a Bendis part 3 of 6 in it? It'd be (even more) unreadable than usual.

But I was just thinking that if they do well, new stories would be encouraged to fit that format.

>>90006671
I dunno man, she certainly didn't help Surgeon X a whole lot...

>>90006466
So basically like any Claremont writing after 1991 or so.

>>90006691
It was a bleeding cool post, so take a giant grain of salt. They refused to admit who it was who said it:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/16/state-marvel-comics-comicspro/

>I am told that the title of the fall Marvel branding will be “Make Mine Marvel”. And that this will encompass the attitude Marvel wish to engender. You could probably add “Again” on the end.

>They say they want to make retailers money, to keep the market healthy and blame DC Comics returnability for tying up retailers cashflow for low fourth quarter sales.

>>90006727
So sad that wasn't just a Western Black Jack or Franken Fran.

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>>90006727
Oh man, did that get better? The first issue was horrible.

I can't but laugh at all the costumes now, this is such over the top dude fapbait

>DC meets Looney Tunes
I fucking hate crossovers. Exactly because of bullshit like this. The DCU and Looney Tunes have nothing in common aside from being owned by Warner Bros. There is no interesting story to be mined from this, no thematic connection to work with, you can't even get any good jokes out of it. The only reason this is happening is because WB wants to squeeze money out of both, and despite the utter lack of potential, fuckin' nerds will make sure it flies off the self on day one.

I can't even remember the last time there was a crossover that had an actual point beyond pandering to the Death Battle crowd.

>>90006696
I also saw a couple retailers saying that they never returned anything since they sold out of everything they ordered

I'm guessing returnability was mostly used by bigger shops like Midtown and whatnot that had more freedom to over-order stuff

https://twitter.com/jpalmiotti/status/832364107005308928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Nice

>>90006527
It's basically Dial H for Hero, but the important thing is more that it was wildly successful. Like, more successful than just about anything else CN had at the time. So successful it's gotten like 4-5 reboots since so they can keep marketing new designs.

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>>90006703
And my LCS is solid on the Marvel front as well as the DC one, but he said "Marvel's been bleeding" recently. They know me as a mainly digital customer who comes in for a few things in print, and I voiced my annoyance at overpriced #1s and stealth minis

>>90006787
>you can't even get any good jokes out of it
I thought that about the Flintstones though.

>>90006796
nice, I didn't realize that Texeira did that picture

King writing Elmer Fudd/Batman should be fun

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>>90006824
Okay, without getting /v/ or too political or anything, can someone explain the appeal of P*wD*eP*e to me? I feel genuinely and rarely old in the "what the fuck, kids" front on this one.

>>90006858
more SPACE PUNISHER some time, please

Incidentally thanks for the reminder Stokoe's Alien comic is out from DH next month OP

>>90006666
Marvel Adventures was pretty ideal digest story telling, though, and Defalco's old school approach in Spider-Girl made each story individually readable.

And, what's more, those were digest trades. I imagine the Marvel Digests are going to work a lot more like Archie ones- cheap paper and cherry picking from 80 years worth of content.

>>90006877
Why would they quote Moby Dick? These sexy space Amazons are RUINING the versimilitude.

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>>90006877
I've seen even more discontent on the digital codes for random Marvel shit front, now

>So I started out raping my boss' wife because she annoyed me and now I've become my boss and I'm basically married to her, whoops

>>90006693
How long until Marvel's strategy is charging $270 an issue to meet USAvengers profit margins?

>>90006918
Speaking of Space Amazons, Texas Anon, if you ever show up here, are you going to run the weirdass Jodi Picoult WW run you were talking about yesterday?

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>>90006935

>>90006877
Do you watch any LPs, OP? He basically created a style of LPing that some people like.
Personally, I don't get it, but I prefer the "ProtonJon fucking around" style of LP to his scarecam horseshit.

>>90006782
So does Boba Fett ever come back? Is Andromache Boba Fett?

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>>90006975
You can kind of put LPs into the "why the fuck would I watch this" category for me. It made sense in the dorm lounge with rum and coke, but for fun???

>>90006877
The Unspeakable One appeals to folks that like his hyperactive "humor", and he's good at PR, maintaining a high degree of positive interactivity with his fan base.

Success is often about selling one's self, as the perception of quality is more effective than actual quality.

>>90006787
But what if they make the Looney Tunes crossover with Justa Lotta Animals or the Amazing Zoo Crew?

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>>90007008
does anyone do the mid-run slump and the fuck you ending quite like BKV?

>>90007008
People like watching people play videogames, even after college.

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>>90007047

>>90006877
>Okay, without getting /v/ or too political or anything, can someone explain the appeal of P*wD*eP*e to me?

I know very little about him/what your talking about, but I think basically that the Let's Play/watching other people play videogames thing is something that he was an early standout in, and his numbers snowballed because the biggest things attract the largest new viewers.

>>90007008
There's a few varieties of LP.
There's your walkthrough style, where the player goes over everything, like all the endings, collectables, ect.
Then there's your Blind LPs, where the player has no idea what he's getting into, which is especially popular for horror games (which is where Scarecam, where you can see their faces and their reactions, originated).
Then there's a third style, which I like to refer to as "entertainment LPs". This is the hardest to explain to someone who isn't interested, mostly because this one focuses more on how much the viewer likes the GAMER, as opposed to how much they like the GAME. Those ones can be especially cringy if you don't like the channel.

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>>90007064
Okay, that makes sense.

Let's just say that some of the reactions to things around him have been that weird combo we live in right now of terribly funny and depressing at the same time.

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>>90007135

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>>90007086
>Nam Less

But muh domino theory!

>>90006964
>Picoult WW
Why.

>>90007008
A good LP can be described as a discussion of sorts on the game in question. It's not just watching someone play a video game, it's watching someone showcase it. The point, which many people miss, is to show the game off and perhaps educate viewers on things they didn't know, possibly even getting them to consider buying it.

For a good example of this, check out a guy named Chipcheezum, and you'll see what I mean.

>>90007008
I've looking through them occasionally for games I am kinda curious about but have zero interest in playing myself, or no way to play them

they aren't something I would watch on a regular basis at all though

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>>90007194
Oh, okay, I like one kind of LP: insane speedruns of NES games I remember venting a lot of profanity at.

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>>90007222

>>90007222
Do you ever watch AGDQ?

>>90007214
This for me. There's stuff I know I won't get around to playing but still want to check out. It's also another kind of thing you can just have on in the background.

>>90007222
Right, I forgot about speedruns. Nothing like barely surviving the Yellow Devil, just to see some asshole on the Internet beat it without getting hit, with the fucking buster.

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>>90007248
i have no idea what that is

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>>90007263
that Super Mario speedrun, goddammit

also the Battletoads one

>>90007213
Ask Texas. He seemed interested in how shitty it was, and he ran this boss rush of a story yesterday:
>>89979587
(fixed link)
Texas had this to say:
>>89985534

>>90007265
Speedruns for charity.

>>90007265
Awesome Games Done Quick. Bi-annual speedrunning livestream for charity. They do some of the super frustration NES stuff you're on about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_Done_Quick

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>>90006787

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So, I'm suddenly tempted to put money into Waifu Academy.

Tap to Give Us Money games sure do work the way they're intended to.

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>>90007287
Picoult WW is just dumb and Nemesis is even duller than in Heinberg

>>90007301
>>90007309
OIC

now I wanna emu Boy and his Blob and see if I can die less than when I played it when it came out and ha ha there was no internet for 'strategy guides'

>>90007265
Ah, I see this office worker is a Woman Who Wears Underwear.

>>90007351
Here's a boy and his Blob in 2 minutes and 10 seconds
https://youtu.be/1tdRGkjHdwA?t=81

>>90007287
>also the Battletoads one

I once saw four people RACE to see who can beat Battletoads first, and they did it in ONE YouTube video.
And this isn't some "these kids today" shit, since they're older than me.

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>>90007399
Also reminded of, in college, emuing Mega Man II, and when you beat it once, you get the option to play it again on 'difficult'

>>90006964
Yes, actually. Either tonight or tomorrow.

>>90007347
I enjoy that you aren't making any actual counterargument.

Seriously, crossovers are just bad. There's no real point to having one group of characters interacting with another, because it inevitably amounts to jack shit. And the "plot" is always the same. The two sides fight, make up, team up to fight the villains. Rise, repeat. Fuck that noise.

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>>90007396
I.....I....that's not RIGHT.

>>90007441
We're off tomorrow, so you have my blessing.

>>90007431
I finally played the Legacy Collection this week, and beat the first two MegaMan games in three days, including MegaMan 2 on difficult.

By abusing save states like they're a misbehaving child.

>>90007455
>The two sides fight, make up, team up to fight the villains. Rise, repeat
That's not the plot of Superman/Madman aka The Best Crossover Ever Made.

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>>90006787
Your shitposting aside, I think DC really is overdoing it with crossovers. There's Hanna Barbera, there's Looney Toones and then there's those IDW ones too, Batman/Shadow, JL/Power Rangers, GL/Apes...

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>>90007483
The response was "THERE'S A *HARD* VERSION OF THIS GAME????"

>>90007350
Don't do it, anon. Don't make the same mistake I did.

>>90007431
Actually the "difficult" mode in Mega Man 2 is what the Japanese version's difficulty was like. After you've beaten a couple Mega Man games you start to realize how ridiculously easy 2 actually is in comparison, especially with the Metal Blade that breaks the game.

>>90007484
That's a weird way of spelling "Archie meets the Punisher."

>>90007511
The 90's are BACK, baby!

>>90007511
I'm actually loving all this crossover business

even more so that they aren't all just Batman/whoever

>>90007399
>I once saw four people RACE to see who can beat Battletoads first, and they did it in ONE YouTube video.

Honestly, it's shit like that makes me never want to actually play Dark Souls or other Git Gud games, because I remember playing Battletoads for WEEKS in university, and after one of my housemates finally got good enough at the speederbike level to beat it, the next level was just as bad or worse.

Like, I don't need to be THAT good at something that's supposed to be entertaining me. Any level that takes like 16 hours of training muscle memory isn't a constructive use of time.

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>>90007534
sob

I did beat FFIV Hardtype.

Is 2.0 the run where the CATS were dicking around on Khera and the Coda brainwashed Zealot and Ladytron almost died when she got ganked by Tao?

>>90007568
I'd like it more if their mainline wasn't so bland. Also, I feel like the interesting Hanna Barbera/Looney Toones properties have been untouched.

>>90007518
You know, I kinda expected more from a superpowered assassin. Other Wildstorm titles like The Authority made it seem like the government had these godkillers sitting around waiting for action.

>>90007396
Did he like, plug the game into a Game Genie into Pro Action Replay or something?

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>>90007576
that speedbikes level, that's some of the most concentrated shit known to man

>>90007592
that's Moore, 2.0 starts with Lobdell and then goes into Casey and errr explains a lot of shit that we kind of missed and that's my fault, but it's even edgier to people we know and love

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>>90007559
>The 90's are BACK, baby!
this

>>90007511
>shitposting
Since when is having an unpopular opinion shitposting? Why is this hive mind garbage in JSA Storytime all of a sudden?

Though I do like how apparently even other people are getting tired of crossovers. Warms my heart to see some damn sense for once.

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>>90007576
Dark Souls (especially the first one) isn't hard in the same way once you get into the pattern of it. IMO it's more like the modern version of a Castlevania game.

>>90007576
Dark Souls is no where near as hard as the internet loves to tell people. Like it you can spot a pattern you've already done most of the work in beating any boss

It's challenging, not bullshit like a Ghost 'n Goblins game

>>90007616
On this note I really liked the psi-ops guys in Ultimates. I should go read the New Universe stuff and see if they are as Jon Ronson-y in their original incarnation.

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>>90007648
Just the way you expressed it means you're fishing for replies. Having an unpopular opinion is fine despite the fact that /co/ has become redit and people are trying to enforce a hivemind. I'm unsatisfied with the comic book industry at the moment too.

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>>90007628
That crossover was pretty garbo desu, I liked the Michigan J. Frog running gag tho.

>>90007708
>fishing for replies
Man I hate getting replies when I'm trying to have a conversation.

>>90006366
>Callsign is cocktease

Interesting how Grifter makes the body sit like a female would.

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>>90007696
Hmmmm

in other news I have five issues of apparently rapey Thundercats comics drawn by Ed Benes

>>90007692
>psi-ops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8hP1lay9r8

>>90007534
>Don't do it, anon. Don't make the same mistake I did.

Oh, I'm not planning to.
But the one day purchasing window on Cassie and the next to 0 crystal income you get in the game makes it reaaaal tempting.

>>90007669
The thing is its super hard if you're not used to that kind of videogame before. Imagine if your first videogame was Halo or CoD or something, you're so used to games where you really don't need to think or be observant. Observing patterns in games stopped being a thing for literally a decade. So learning a different control scheme and then moving a character in third person like DS is something that hasn't been mainstream since Zelda. Its damn near impossible for someone who didn't have to live through the 8 and 16 bit days.

I find it interesting that you're curious about the appeal of PDP, Storyteller.

Maybe you're just smart enough to avoid Darksydephil.

Also, let's just talk about video games, because fuck this garbage comic.

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>>90007730
It's really fun when you watch women on the opera stage doing trouser roles to see who's done their homework in body language and who hasn't

>>90007733
>in other news I have five issues of apparently rapey Thundercats comics drawn by Ed Benes
Fun times!

>>90007741
>Observing patterns in games stopped being a thing for literally a decade
???
>Its damn near impossible for someone who didn't have to live through the 8 and 16 bit days.
????

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>>90007750
I mean, it's mostly because this fucking hilarious tweet he made went past my field of vision, in which his followers are outraged and upset about the WSJ 'stalking' and 'bullying' him by two reporters knocking on his door and asking him for comment/if he'd like to respond

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>>90007788
Spartan's kind of the ultimate moralfag of the WS once you get him going

>>90007509
This was pretty fun tbqh

>>90007755
Hey speaking of opera, what's your opinion on watching them at movie theaters in the "Fathom Events" things?

You've talked about how important being in the actual theater is before so I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I was at the movies today and it made me wonder if it'd be worth seeing.

>>90007728
You're not really trying to have a conversation, you just (aggressively) expressed your opinion on a matter. Like I said, I think they're exaggerating with the crossovers myself but they're harmless one shits done laughs. I'm much more peeved by the overall quality of the industry right now. And get off your high horse, when I try to have a conversation on 4fhan I egt replies of
>is this pasta
>well that's just your opinion (after I wrote a long ass reply)
>you're an * fag (* being anything, marvelfag, dcfag, indiefag, batfag, wrietrfag, artistfag, somethingfag etc). And yes, I've been called all of them.

>>90007788
E-celeb drama is fucking horrible. I can't believe this is part of our culture these days. I can't believe our children will learn of these people via cultural osmosis.

And this is coming from someone who watches James Rolfe's videos

>>90007663
>>90007669
Part of it was also me playing Demon's Souls for a bit and just getting bored and aggravated playing it, because games where you die a lot can be fine if you don't need to wait for shit to load every goddamn time.

>>90007788
They're laughing at the audacity of the WSJ, a rag with less than 3 million subscribers, telling a guy they smeared with 53 million subscribers that they can offer him a "platform" after they've already run their smear piece.

>>90007842
I'm not the anon who posted the crossover thing, I just found it funny that you posted that when talking about the quality of a debate.

>>90007663
>IMO it's more like the modern version of a Castlevania game.

You know, except it isn't shit like the actual modern Castlevanias.

God damn, Lords of Shadow 2 was bad... so bad...

>>90007856
We'll all become insular narcissists and destroy each other.

>>90007868
If you can play Demon's Souls you can definitely handle Dark Souls.

>>90006626
Katana worship makes me vomit. The only thing that made them good was the forging process. The design has shit utility compared to a good old-fashioned longsword.

>>90007764
>Observing patterns in games stopped being a thing for literally a decade
>???

Its true though. Everything these days have giant as fuck indicators for when something mean is coming. Grenade indicators, characters outright yelling their attacks before they make them, giant glowing charge shots to give you several seconds to take cover. Also everything being an FPS shooter is really hard for people.

If you hang around the normie forums like plebbit people whine so fucking hard when they have to use a different control scheme. They've been conditioned for years that there is only one way to play a game and anything different is impossible to control. Hell, you should have seen how angry people were that the new controller Nintendo put out for the Wii-u didn't have the Xbox360 button layout. Someone could be 16 years old right now complaining loudly on the internet and the only console they ever owned with the only controller they've ever held was and Xbox playing exclusively FPS games that all play the exact same way. Anything different is wrong for them.

>>90007788
>>90007873

It's kinda interesting to see the 'fake news' spillover on it anyway.

>>90007876
Either way, my point is that the anon could've expressed his thoughts on the matter in a more civilized manner.

>>90007008
When the game isn't available beyond emulation (which can be buggy as fuck sometimes) it can be worth it, but otherwise I'm with you there.

>>90007913
But the steel is folded over a gorillion times!

>>90007917
That's true if you only play games with big marketing budgets (which have to appeal to the thickest of players to make back their money for said budget)

>>90007842
>You're not really trying to have a conversation, you just (aggressively) expressed your opinion on a matter
Nigga, do propose I start a conversation? Should I politely ask if I'm allowed to say something? Fuck that.

Crossovers are fucking retarded, and I think they have no reason to exist. Would you like to discuss this, or do you prefer to be a sensitive little bitch whenever someone says something you disagree with?

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>>90007837
It can be a really interesting experience! You'll get the kind of upclose details that you won't unless you're in expensive seats and have glasses with you, and that can be fascinating. I don't always like the camera work, but there's always going to be some level of mediation. They don't take the place of the real thing, but they can be wonderful experiences. I most enjoyed when I saw the same show both ways, often movie first then in-house, since the first go was like a cram session.

>>90007913
People getting invested in this stupid argument on either side makes me vomit.

KM is a great tripfag on /tg/ who actually knows what he's talking about on arms/armor/forging and I enjoy watching him post the only sense in these kinda topics, which are retarded and regular there. And that isn't your post BTW, which is super fucking retarded but this isn't the place.

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>>90007930
the idea that a newspaper asking for comment is stalking is kind of funny but mainly sad

>>90007904
>If you can play Demon's Souls you can definitely handle Dark Souls.

Again, the question is one of "will I enjoy playing this"

>>90008046
Drama is really prevalent in youtube/twitch personalities and LPers. I can understand how there is no awareness of a different and wider context.

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>>90008051
I don't mind some RPG grinding, but my memories of DQ8 are rather mixed thanks to it

>>90007969
Yeah that was my point. When everyone runs around saying "OMG SO HARD" they're basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYp8ZeQ-I8 this. From the video you can tell they've played halo from the constant melee into shotgun blast attempts but they can't even begin to comprehend doing anything different. Gameplay like this is really the norm for the majority of gamers. Nobody thinks, nobody adapts, they just sorta stand around and let the game win itself at the lowest difficulty. Kids these days don't even know what videogames are. But they spend tons of money and are loud on the internet

>>90007973
Bitch, I'm the only one that gave you the time. All I'm saying is that if you want to a conversation then you should probably try not to come off ass aggressive and stuck up. If you weren't so focused on shit flinging you would've seen the fact that I agree with you on 4chan developing a retarded redit mentality where if your opinion isn't the hivemind then you're just a "contrarian".

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>>90008104
I wonder how much Grifter is paying them to be there. Does Spartan just give him millions of dollars to fuck around with or something?

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>>90008149
Odds are good

>>90008051
Did you enjoy Demon's Souls?

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>>90008163
I just wanna play RPGs that aren't MMORPGs

>>90008191
Bored and aggravated anon, bored and aggravated.

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>>90008211

>>90008211
Man, Hadrian sure does seem to stand up for his friends of aeons, don't he?

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>>90008237

I like how literally nobody is talking about the comic lol

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>>90007008
I use them to "play" games that I'll never realistically bother buying. And Cryaotic has a damn sexy voice.

>>90008124
Being aggressive is the only way I can get anyone to talk to me. Everyone fucking ignores me otherwise. So fuck it, if I gotta play ball then I will.

>>90008211
>>90008104
Yeah, Dragon Quest kind of went full MMO for a while, especially with IX. And with X, they stopped pretending and just made an RPG.

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>>90008282
I have one of those on Steam and just haven't gotten around to starting it

lemme see which one, lol

So, kindly fellow owls- rec me what I should read next, once I finish my current book- Dial H, Chew Omnivore 5, Box Brown's Andre the Giant, or Box Brown's Tetris?

>>90008270
I just can't man. I had a brief revival of interest with the gender-swapping cyborg and Amazon torture love-in but it got dull again real quick.

>>90008270
Not even reading it lol

>>90008270
it's real shit

>>90008225
By what specifically? I skipped over Demon Souls because I didn't have a ps3

I'm going to imagine Demon Souls has clunkier controls which only adds to frustration

>>90008282
Are you implying OP is a self-loathing feminist, shitlord? Get out of here with your sexist, racist, homophobic garbage!

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>>90008300
IX is really charming and I sunk a shitload of time into it, but I got annoyed at stuff I missed out on because I didn't have a connection to anyone else playing it.

>>90008270
Could be worse, X-Anon. We could be talking about a midgit fighting league.

>>90008211
Mario & Luigi/Paper Mario

>>90008225
Then sure don't play the others.

>>90008211
What are your fave RPGs you have played?

>>90008270
Because there's no longer anything to talk about. Joe Casey is a hack and may as well be a bootleg Millar. That's the end of it.

>>90008305
Ooh, that's a tough one. I'd say go with Chew if you already started that series.

>>90008316
I was dying a lot and got to enjoy a lot of loading. Sometimes more loading that gameplay.

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>>90008326
I'm lost

I see the next Live in HD operacast is Rusalka, that'd be a good show. Traviata is a fairly noob-friendly piece with a symbolist but not too radical production.

>>90008270
Hey now, things could be worse, like the fuckhead last night with Daredevil

>>90008335
Don't even get me started on that shit, senpai. Just don't.

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>>90008360
I mean, I'd play endless hours of Extra Skyrim. My tastes in games are pretty simple. I'd also play FF15 if I had the box for it.

>>90007167
Wh-

Bu-

WHY WOULD YOU introduce a new plot here when you're so close to ending and nothing from before had been resolved except Wax killing his boss?! At least end Zealot's arc first even if you're never going to touch the evil oil corporations plot again!

>>90008335
That would probably be more interesting than this.

>>90008366
I did specify Omnivore 5.

I've been doing that series by the hardcovers.
And need to offload my copy of the first trade.

>>90008305
>rec-fagging
Oh for fucks sake with this shit. Just google it! It's not hard to look up reviews.

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>>90008270
I am actually reading the comic

:|

>>90008460
Is it as boring as it looks?

>>90008428
The Witcher is probably a pretty good rec then.

>>90008428
I've been waiting on FF15 because I hear that a patch that affects game content is coming this year?

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>>90008460
>>90008484
yes

>>90008453
>look up reviews.
just why...

>>90008453
I can't tell if this is a joke referencing anti-recc posting or not, but reviews won't tell someone how to prioritize things they've already committed to reading.

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>>90008326
Or I know is pretty overrated

>>90008460
>>90008484
It shouldn't be possible for a crippled spy in a female robot's body and a pair of flamboyant BDSM doms breaking their battle-virginity to be as dull as this.

It reminds me of when we read that Rann-Thanagar war comic.

>>90008444
>That would probably be more interesting than this.

Take my word for it, it's not.

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>>90008492
I have Witcher: ENhanced Edition

should I fuck off and open that up after the comic is finally done, and then sporadically post comments about it?

>>90008514
NOT A-FUCKING-GAIN

NO

WE'RE NOT DOING RECOMMENDATIONS WANK TONIGHT

>>90007265
I've never worn a skirt, but wouldn't it have to be slid up higher than that to use the restroom without getting anything on it?

>>90008326
Maybe they though OP would just enjoy sex on unicorn back. https://youtu.be/cvn0IrkJn6E?t=1m58s

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>>90008558
Generally speaking, it's bad form to be sitting on your skirt at all on the toilet, yes.

>>90008555
I think the third is massively the best of the games but each of the others is solid enough. The first one is the least polished like you might expect.

Projekt Red, the people behind it, are working on a big cyberpunk RPG now.

>>90008369
The load times have been cut down on modern consoles or the pc

I think Dark Souls 3 is the most new player friendly in terms of gameplay. I love Bloodborne the most, but that first boss feels like feels like a wall designed against new players

I guess the big question is whether or not having to commit to an input is a deal breaker? If you press that button to swing or heal and the enemy decides to strike fast you're gonna take damage. It's just learning patterns and knowing when to push or back off with a lot of trial and error.

They're the perfect type of game for me and people with similar tastes, but if the same things that make DS appealing to me turn you off that's understandable and fair.

>>90008391
PM-IFAnon powering through that jackass was heroic.

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>>90008513
If you've already decided to read those books, just fucking pick one! Don't go to a fucking forum to bother other people for directions. Do you so lack initiative that you actually need other people to make your decisions for you? You goddamn tool.

>>90008590
Is Hecate the actual goddess? Does she ever show up in the coda comics?

>>90008530
It's because there's no real stakes, we don't care about what happens because Casey failed to make us care about his characters.

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>>90008613
Oh man, did the troll show up last night?

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>>90008453
I'm not asking for recommendations.
I'm asking for suggestions as to which of those four books I've already bought I should read first.

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>>90008640
Oh shit, I'd forgotten I got Goat Simulator and haven't installed it

>>90008617
Either way reviews were a fucking stupid suggestion that had nothing to do with the actual post.

>>90008635
I want to just take the Beef Boys and salvage them in a Devlin Waugh comic.

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>>90008676

>>90008656
Just ignore them, they've gone on their little rant before here and in other threads.

I saw Chew, you're already 4 volumes deep.

>>90008460
I admit it- I laughed at the last panel. What kind of mother doesn't support her son's decision to become a lifestyle pervert.

>>90008617
It's OK, they're gone, the recs can't hurt you anymore.

>>90008558
Just think of it like a shirt that hangs down, would have to get pulled up in the back. I think that's what they tried to draw but it still doesn't look right.

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>>90008709
Shortly after he learned of the book’s cancellation, Casey spoke with Newsarama about his run and the series end.

Newsarama: First off, the specifics. What’s the last issue, and what reasons were given to you?

Joe Casey: Issue #24 [August] is the final issue. The reasons were completely financial. I hate it when I see people trying to spin things in their favor just to pump themselves up. Let’s just be honest here… in this particular case, it was low sales that did us in.

NRAMA: But the series got a boost from Coup D’Etat right? Was the decision made after the Coup boost trailed off?

JC: I honestly couldn’t say what the timing was in regards to Coup. I just got the call last week so I’m still kind of reeling from the news. But I knew the writing was on the wall when I heard they weren’t doing any more Wildcats 3.0 trade paperback collections - well, aside from some weird Cyberforce crossover tpb, I guess. As far as those are concerned, what’s out there now is all there is and -- as far as I’ve been told -- all there ever will be.

NRAMA: Where is that in regards to your storyline?

JC: Unfortunately, there’s not much closure for the long term plans Dustin [Ngyuen] and I had for the book. Hell, Dustin doesn’t even get to come back like he’d planned all along. Issue #24 is the final chapter of the “Coda War One” storyline and it was already written when the plug was pulled. I was actually writing issue #25 when I got the call, so when you read #24, it certainly feels like issue #25 is coming after it. But now that won’t be the case.

>>90008651
That reminds me I have DAO installed and modded to shit but I haven't even actually played it.

>>90008656
Here's a suggestion: Be your own damn person and pick one, instead of relying on others to make your decisions for you. Moron.

>>90008651
>Ghostbusters: The Video Game
Good taste over here

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>>90008737
JC: I hesitate to say… mainly because I don’t want -- myself or anyone else -- to give up on the kind of work that I personally enjoy in comic books. I’ve been more like a “cult writer” in the mainstream for most of my career and it’s been a relatively comfortable place to be. I hate playing it safe, and I don’t want other creators playing it safe either. Guys like Chaykin and Miller and Moore showed me that you can make demands on the reader in the mainstream and it can pay off, because they essentially created a new mainstream. Maybe Wildcats was a “book out of time”. Either we were ahead of the curve or too far behind it. I don’t really know. I just know I loved it. We all busted our ass on a work-for-hire book as though we owned it, not DC. Part of me takes pride in that kind of commitment. Part of me wonders if I was a chump to care so much…


JC: That’s what the whole “Coda War One” story was supposed to be! A big, sprawling action epic before we headed into what was to be the final act of our run. Plus, we were confident that Dustin might bring back some attention with issue #25, coming fresh off his run on Batman. I guess we’ll never know if that would’ve helped…

JC: Like I said, the entire “final act” of Version 3.0 -- as Dustin and I had planned it -- would’ve lasted from issue #25 until around issue #40. The aftermath of the mission to Greece, seeing how Jack Marlowe and the Halo Corporation were going to deal with the world energy crisis and the world’s reaction to that, a controversial Presidential election and its ramifications, the return of the real Ladytron, the “Junior Wildcats”, the last Coda, and really just playing out all the various character threads that began all the way back in issue #1… all of that cool stuff will never see print.

>>90008693
>Devlin Waugh
I didn't really enjoy any of his stories after the first one, besides the one where he essentially stopped at customs by Dredd

But man that first one with the vampires in the underwater base is perfect from start to finish

>>90008744
>Good taste over here
RIP http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/ghostbusters-video-game-removed-from-steam-but-it-wasnt-the-bad-one-39247

>>90008738
>I have DAO installed and modded to shit but I haven't even actually played it
I need to go back and play DAO.

>>90008744
No right to be as good as it is.

Ghostbusters and The Warriors prove the best way to make movie games is decades after they come out

>>90008764
>would’ve lasted from issue #25 until around issue #40
Good god.

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>>90008738
I made a character and then started the opening mission and...whoops

maybe that'll be tonight until bedtime

>>90008640

Be blessed JSAnon. He was as disruptive as possible
>>89986826

>>90008766
Yeah, it didn't last although he still gets some good lines in.

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>>90008794
I think some day we have to read SEX just to break it apart, except I think we'd all die of collective boredom and I hate doing captchas just to die of collective boredom

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>>90008793
>Ghostbusters and The Warriors prove the best way to make movie games is decades after they come out
Also

>>90008774
What kind of bullshit is this?
Also didn't even know they released another in 2016

>>90008825
Y'all are putting me in nostalgia mode

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>>90008816
NRAMA: Do you think Wildcats 3.0 would have done better if it was told in larger chunks, given the density of the story you and Dustin were telling?

JC: I don’t know… the density was actually what I liked about doing the series. That and the characters themselves. Actually, I’m insanely proud of how we depicted this cast of characters, the time we took to explore their personalities, the unpredictability of their actions, etc. so I don’t know if I’d want to do it any differently. I basically wrote the series I’d always wanted to read. Maybe if the book hadn’t been called Wildcats… but, again, I liked the brand identity of that name. It certainly tied into some of the themes of the series. But Scott Dunbier told me he was faced with a similar situation a few years ago, when he morphed StormWatch - which was selling for shit, despite critical raves - into The Authority. Maybe we should’ve taken a page from that playbook, but hindsight’s always 20/20…

>>90008835
>What kind of bullshit is this?
>Also didn't even know they released another in 2016
It was bad.>>90008835
>Y'all are putting me in nostalgia mode
Sorry anon.

>>90008738
>>90008797
I really liked Origins. I grew up on like Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale and NWN and the first Dragon Age is really intentionally riffing on those kinda games.

They throw it out mostly in DA2, which is crap, and then kind of have their own decent game going in Inquisition. Kinda like the way Mass Effect went I felt the second game really abandoned the stakes in its narratives and made the most half-hearted nod towards player choice.

>>90008825
Never played that, but it's gotta be better than Chronicles of Riddick. Fuck that movie.

>>90008635
Solid assessment.

The Beef Boys barely have names, so their identity is 100% BDSM Mercenaries, which was a gag that ran it's course like the second time they showed up.
Rendazzo's arc is about his shitstain of a son, who we've seen isn't someone to care about.

Frankly, Casey's expecting a lot of carryover concern on characters from earlier volumes, and isn't working to earn it.

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>>90008807
hol-ee shit

>>90008843
>ctually, I’m insanely proud of how we depicted this cast of characters, the time we took to explore their personalities, the unpredictability of their actions, etc. so I don’t know if I’d want to do it any differently. I basically wrote the series I’d always wanted to read
kek

>>90008613
If one annoyed Bendis fan was enough to make me quit, I wouldn't have started the storytimes.

>>90008640
He started by posting the pages before I could (posting the same "insulting" shit he did in your thread), then he started putting threads out of order entirely (again, while "insulting"), and then he started posting pages from the last issue of the arc. By THAT point, he gave up with the insults, so I guess he ran out of steam.

>>>>90008858
>Never played that, but it's gotta be better than Chronicles of Riddick. Fuck that movie.
One the best movie tie ins video game Pretty good voice cast.

>>90008640
He posted pages out of order, for hours. It was annoying.

>>90008807
That is a lot of effort to put into mildly annoying a small handful of people

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>>90008868
Also, honestly, this is not the most exciting pure action comic that I've ever read, wherein great art/structure can make it amazing even if I have no idea who the fuck anyone is

>>90008807
Okay but that intro post is a masterpiece.

>>90008855
I haven't played Inquisition yet, all I know is that the side-quests are bo-o-o-o-ring because of the fixed camera, which makes you care less about what happens with those side-characters.

I also heard the big bad is just evil for the sake of being evil but I actually dig that trope so

>>90008738
Ah, video game backlogs. Thanks to digital formats, you're the easiest thing to grow out of control of anything!

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>>90008898
LAST ISSUE

>>90008898
Yeah, Rouleau is just not a good fit for this kind of widescreen cinematic action. Alas, not everyone is Frank Quitely.

>>90008843
>Actually, I’m insanely proud of how we depicted this cast of characters
he probably shouldn't be that proud about Wax

>>90008987
wooooo

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>>90008987
Here you go, someone who really really loves this book

http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news-columns/longbox-diving-wildcats-version-3-0/

>>90008744
I found a copy of that for PS3 at an EB last year and I was so goddamn happy.

How the hell does Sony not have that available as a download, even on their own consoles, y'know?

>>90008981
> man time to crack into that backlog
> hours of Civilization VI/Stardew Valley later
I'm never gonna finish Final Fantasy XV

>>90008981
I also have Jade Empire to take care of and... that's pretty much it, really. I did get to play the entire Jedi Knight series for these past couple of months so that was fun. Mysteries of the Sith is seriously underrated

>>90008904
"I like sweaty balls"?

>>90008764
>JC: I hesitate to say… mainly because I don’t want -- myself or anyone else -- to give up on the kind of work that I personally enjoy in comic books. I’ve been more like a “cult writer” in the mainstream for most of my career and it’s been a relatively comfortable place to be. I hate playing it safe, and I don’t want other creators playing it safe either. Guys like Chaykin and Miller and Moore showed me that you can make demands on the reader in the mainstream and it can pay off, because they essentially created a new mainstream. Maybe Wildcats was a “book out of time”. Either we were ahead of the curve or too far behind it. I don’t really know. I just know I loved it. We all busted our ass on a work-for-hire book as though we owned it, not DC. Part of me takes pride in that kind of commitment. Part of me wonders if I was a chump to care so much…

Christ, he's sucking his own dick hard enough he probably tastes ass hair.

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>>90009029
Wax is quintessential Casey, so I get it

>>90009053
Jade Empire has one of my favourite casts of any Bioware RPG. They straight-up put two guys from the Water Margin in there.

>>90008927
>but I actually dig that trope so
I hope that statement comes with an asterisk.

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Third Game never.

>>90008981
I wish I could admit that my backlog of video games was why I miss storytime deadlines, because I have enough that its believable.

I'm just a lazy asshole

>>90009053
>Jade Empire
Now that's a franchise Bioware should look into again or maybe not, we'll see how Andromeda goes

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>>90009070
that's mild for him, actually

>>90009043
>I’m not a WildCATs fan at all. Not really, anyway. I understand it’s importance to the medium as well as Jim Lee’s career, but I was never a WildStorm reader as a kid (and obviously can’t be now). I only ever really liked the Authority, because- well, they’re the Authority! Who in their right mind doesn’t like the Authority?

>>90009099
I guess the asterisk would say something like "but only when they're either really grandiose and memorable or charismatic"

>>90009100
I think Tom Scioli did art for this gam

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>>90009115
From CBR's Lying the Gutter column:

Last week, my favourite current superhero comics, "Wildcats 3.0" was cancelled.

And on Millarworld, a lot kicked off. Private e-mail from Paul Levitz pointed the decision firmly at Jim Lee, John Nee and Scott Dunbier, while Mark Millar went to town over how DC neuterered Wildstorm at a time when, according to Millar, "it was the coolest company around, beating out even Marvel Knights in fan buzz".

Millar states, "Three VPs in NYC told me personally that they just didn't understand why people bought these books and they did everything they could to kill them." and "They just don't dig the book and are not supporting Joe in any way because, as a VP said to me two years ago, 'the Wildstorm superhero books do nothing to improve the human condition.'"

Ed Brubaker took a similar but more sedate version, "I think the biggest difference between WS the year you were on 'Authority' (and I remember that summer, sitting at the DC table and looking at the enormous crowds around the WS tables) is that WS used to do it's own promotion and publicity. Then it got pulled inhouse. And inhouse is 3000 miles away, so they don't have quite as much time to push WS books, it seems."

But DC haven't had that much of a grasp on "Wildcats," especially since its 3.0 Eye of The Storm relaunch.

When Eye of the Storm was underway, DC bods read Joe Casey's script and were a tad flummoxed by it - all this corporate stuff, guys in suits talking. They came back and said "this does not say to us 'mature reader superheroes'." So they asked Joe Casey to sex and violence it up a bit, and paid Casey and Nguyen for additional work. Which is why there are extra pages in the first issue, presented as a bonus to the reader. It's the scene with Grifter killing a naked hooker. Cut and paste.

>>90009114
It bombed financially and its very concept would draw a ton of negative attention if they even tried to make another one now.

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>>90009160

>>90009149
>really grandiose and memorable or charismatic
I think we can call this the Skeletor/Cobra Commander rule

>>90009158
Sad he quit comics in 2013. Late last night/early this morning depending where you are, Tom Scioli (of “Godland”, “American Barbarian” and more) announced via his Twitter account that he was done with comics due to recent interactions with a publisher before subsequently deleting his Twitter account.

>>90009114
>Andromeda
Oh Mass Effect. Every now and then I wonder if I should revisit it. But then I remember how badly it burned me. Perhaps we can get together and talk one day, Mass Effect. Just let it be known that what you did to me really hurt.

>>90008898
Are those jeeps driving up a wall?

>>90009176
>very concept would draw a ton of negative attention
...martial arts with an all Asian cast?

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>>90009193
A Joe Casey-written woman being a ridiculous ball-buster? Never!

>>90009176
>its very concept would draw a ton of negative attention
Why? The whole world was based on fantasy China. Everyone was not!Chinese. It was fairly broad in what it looked to.

>>90009218
I've never seen something go so well, only to shit the bed RIGHT at the end.

>>90009230
As written/voiced by a bunch of white Canadians, yes.

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>>90009235

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>>90009264
F

>>90009251
There's a good, long series of articles on where you can start to see the ME series change tack, and it's long before the end of the third game.

>>90009149
Good to know we're on the same page.

Villains who are just evil are fine, but they should still have some substance to them. >>90009158

>>90009289
Shit Casey you couldn't even give these fuck-ups a happy ending? I assumed they were there to match the coda's secret bondage techniques.

>>90009251
From what I understand it was because the head writer of 1 and 2 didn't write 3, and the new guy threw out the old guys ideas. Well that and some clear rushed cuts for deadline/budget

The First writer was building up a plot about dark matter or something and it got replaced in the last game with "machines have to kill organics so they don't make machines that will kill them"

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>>90009341
I'm actually kind of upset, they had promise

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>>90009398

>>90009160
I'll never understand how an executive can be UNHAPPY that people are buying their product.

>>90009398
Zealot has spent like 2? 3? issues just being bald and sore and helpless and that is Not Good.

>>90009289
Yeah, I'll give an F.

But let's be honest, Ball Gag Man was hard to get a read on.

>>90009450
I'm annoyed they killed the silent one. Really had a good opportunity to have him speak or shed a single exaggerated tear there.

F.

>>90009385
Karpyshyn went into detail about the Dark Energy plot later and it sounded pretty stupid desu

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>>90009447
I think it's a deliberate inversion of "Zealot saves Grifter" but that was already an inversion of the usual comics pattern so it's inadvertently? regressive, and it's not written well enough to be compelling against that

>>90009424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqZ2PPOLik

>>90009422
Really? REALLY? That's how she dies? What a joke, she really IS Boba Fett.

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>>90009490
I missed page 13

no one noticed, I barely did

>>90009490
She hasn't even really had a voice as a captor - the space and text is given over more to the coda's ranting.

>>90009385
The plots of 2 and 3 are just awful, they remind me of most Hollywood movies. The actual character writing on the other hand was really good, so in-spite of the boring gameplay and bad mission design it was still a joy to go through because of my attachment to the characters.

And I think that's the biggest problem with the ending of 3; you don't have any real character writing, just the bare plot exposed to you and you can clearly see how stupid it is. So your last taste of the game is just dirty ass.

Anyway WildCATs right guys

>>90009490
Everything about this arc being so flat really doesn't help things.

Like if the storytelling was a bit better at getting us to actually care, instead of assuming that we will, it might have worked.

>>90009251
Nobody had. This was, in a way, kind of unprecedented. That was why everyone was pissed off, and why ME3's ending became the subject of academic study.

Honestly, I don't think Andromeda's gonna do that well. Bioware let everyone down, and interest in the franchise has waned drastically. Nobody cares anymore, not really.

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>>90009538
and NOW, page 15

>>90009424
He's talking about music, but it's relevant for all entertainment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP4wsURn3rw

>>90009538
Out of obligation: "is this /d/?"

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>>90009570
so Hadrian just teleported a ton of water onto them, lol

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>>90009594
See, you can tell how this comic has worn me down that I didn't even ask

>>90009560
Yeah, they really messed up their chance at building up ME as the next big sci-fi franchise. Then again, not even Halo became all that big, even if it does still have a pretty hefty fanbase.

>>90009555
>The plots of 2 and 3 are just awful, they remind me of most Hollywood movies. The actual character writing on the other hand was really good

No the characters were always the draw for me, I hated that 3 sidelined so many past characters to try and make me care about Freddie Prinze Jr

>>90009581
And the irony is those young guys are now old guys still in the same positions

>>90009560
>Honestly, I don't think Andromeda's gonna do that well. Bioware let everyone down, and interest in the franchise has waned drastically. Nobody cares anymore, not really.

Yeah, it's hard to imagine even the drones that went full loyalist and decried anyone complaining about 3's ending being enough to drive sales enough to revive the franchise.

>>90009560
Bioware-EA has definitely been a different beast to old Bioware. Andromeda doesn't look all that great: I'm personally disappointed in how lazy it comes across being an entirely new universe with all the same shit from the previous game going on. And the cutscenes, 'fill-in' writing on the trailers, etc - I just think it's going to be the same deal as 3.

The class swapping and gameplay don't bother me at all though. And I'd disagree about people not caring - loads of people are into Mass Effect. It's a very diverse group of gamers too, all sorts.

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>>90009634
>>90009635
how many fucking Call of Duty games ARE there???

>>90009424
Jemas was REALLY annoyed that people bought Captain Marvel, but that may be an exception.

>>90009675
This is a list of media related to the Call of Duty video game series. The series includes 12 main video games, as well as several side games, released across multiple consoles since 2003, including Microsoft Windows/OS X-based PCs, Nintendo DS, Nintendo GameCube, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation Vita, Wii, Wii U, Xbox, Xbox 360, and Xbox One. Soundtracks of the music from several of the games have also been released, along with a comic book mini-series based on one of the games

>>90009667
Also weirdly about a year ago some guy on /tv/ was talking about being on the Andromeda team for Bioware and how he really disagreed with the route the game was going vs. his team's proposal.

I assumed that was bullshit but lol he was legit, the details since have completely held up what he was saying.

>>90009675
Nothing will beat "Medal of Honor: WARFIGHTER" for me. Like, hey, we can't just call it soldier... ?

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>>90009703
O_______O

>>90009708
I want to know who that incredibly accurate CW2 leaker was. That was someone trying to get Marvel to change the book.

>>90009729
I loved the first COD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNdHN_PF_IE

>>90009729
Cooking Mama: Food Baker

>>90009744
>O_______O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwc4I6eemPE

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>>90009649
>I hated that 3 sidelined so many past characters to try and make me care about Freddie Prinze Jr

If only they knew that was a job for Star Wars.

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>>90009744

>>90009555
>>90009649
Mass Effect is a great case study about how characters are honestly way more important than story. Yeah, you need a basic direction of course, but what people get attached to are the people going on the ride.

Like, nobody really gives a shit about the plot of ME, and the reason the ending made people so upset is because it rendered the development of the characters, and everything the player had accomplished meaningless. All of this was basically for nothing.

You cared. And it was all a waste of time.