X-Men Thread

why was rookie storm so cute bros? they need to make storm cute again

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>>89989744

The 90s are forever lost to us.

Though on plus side, maybe they'll finally get it through their thick heads in next 2 years that they need to go back to what used to work for them at Marvel.

and on a side note, Shiklah is dying soon.

>>89989764
was referring more to early claremont storm but the storm in the op is a good one too, much better than whatever the fuck shes been looking like lately

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>>89989744
>>89989744
No way man,
everyone knows
Black/Lez-Power-Leatherclad-Mohawk-Storm
is best girl.

>>89990042
>Lez
What did they mean by this?

>>89987691
I wish I could stop being an X-Fag

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>>89990051

OML x Jeen Grey

>>89990053
Same.
It would certainly get rid of a significant amount of my frustration with Marvel.

>>89990147
what's great is she could be talking about anything from being gay to being a mutant to being addicted to magic marker fumes

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>>89990259
... or stealing.

>>89990051
Storm REALLY liked Yukio.

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>>89987691
>when's that Statue Quo One Shot?
Who cares, it's all going to be crap anyway.
I need to go back and pick up my reading of classic X-Men though.
I've been on-and-off of it because I'm pretty much up to Inferno with Uncanny/New Mutants and Excalibur, but I haven't yet decided whether I actually want to also catch up on X-Factor first. I have a feeling I'm gonna hate it, simply for that whole Scott/Madelyne/Jean fiasco.

>>89993292
read New Mutants first, if you want to backtrack.

>>89993292
>>89994652
Oh, derp, you said you had. Well. X-Factor is ~okay~. It suffers greatly from a milquetoast cast and an absurd premise. The stuff with Angel is good in a grimdark kind of way; Scott's character assassination is really hard to take; the other three aren't very well characterized. Boom Boom and Artie are great, but under-utilized.

I definitely enjoyed X-Factor and Weezie's run on New Mutants a lot less than the Claremont stuff. She only writes in one voice; her adult X-Men sound as childish as the PowerPack.

I've tried reading the beginning of Claremont's run and couldn't get into it. But just started New Mutants and I like it better than the X-men.

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>>89994936

Claremont was essentially working in a different format. The SLOW burn soap opera aspect may feel like molasses pacing to modern readers but I actually prefer it because it rewards patience with deeper characterization. The massive arc of Scott Summer that takes place over Claremont's run really wouldn't be possible with modern disposable storytelling and reboots every two years.

>>89995072
Yeah, I wish I could get into the earlier stuff but its too slow to me. Is there a point you would recommend picking up as a later starting point?

>>89994936
Claremont X-Men takes some getting used to. I had to try it twice myself.
The very early stories are pretty weird and random even by Claremont standards and lacked that sort of all-encompassing drive the franchise would later develop, where every character and every piece of story was always moving forward.
The Proteus story was probably the coolest thing out of the very early Claremont and it all really starts coming together during/after Phoenix saga for me when the franchise really starts setting into its rythm.

>>89995143
Thanks I'll try starting from there instead of Giant size.

>>89995201
Just a reminder that Phoenix Saga is not just the last two issues of pay-off, but also a longer stretch of stories beforehand where Jean gets her powers and so on. I can't quite remember if all of those were particularly amazing. In fact I think there's a very weird Magneto story right in there.
Either way, only advise I can give you is, keep trying. And don't force too many issues on yourself. If you've had your fill, put the books down and pick them back up some other time.
These books were originally ment to be read monthly. And if you don't force yourself through 10+ of them back-to-back, you may stop slowly going insane from hearing that Wolverine has adamantium claws in bionic housings built into his forearms every 20 pages.

>>89987691
Alright, alright, I'll get back to it.

>>89995072
I feel like Scott is pretty static compared to Wolverine and Storm during the Claremont run. The Morrison-Whedon-Fraction-Gillen Cyclops arc is actually a good counterexample of good, consistent character development happening across many authors in a shared universe.

Brood Saga is when the X books get amazing for dude wondering

I think Byrne era suffers some from Seinfeld is Unfunny syndrome. The Xmen Classic back ups are fantastic though, worth digging up. Dude is right about the Proteus story is worth it for seeing why Scott's the leader.

>>89997927
>Brood Saga is when the X books get amazing for dude wondering

It does take a while to ramp up.

There are a few stand-up-and-cheer moments in the early parts:

• the Shi'ar two-parter on the cusp of the Cockrum I/Byrne runs (UXM 107/108)
• the Magneto two-parter (UXM 112/113)
• the whole back half of the Byrne run is great UXM 125-141 covers the Proteus, Dark Phoenix, and Days of Future Past arcs, which are all classics.

And there are three stand-out issues buried in the middle of the Cockrum II arc:

• "I, Magneto…" (UXM 150)
• "Chutes and Ladders" (UXM 160)
• "Gold Rush!" (UXM 161)

Then you hit the Brood Saga in UXM 162 and it just doesn't slow down until Inferno, 80 issues later.

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>>89999233

>Gold Rush!" (UXM 161

marvel should just like reprint them again, some great comics. i'm always in awe how many are like one or two issue stories.

>>89999833

I thought a while ago about Mignola working at Marvel and how the characters would work in his style and who the most Mignola Marvel character is and of course he answered for me by finding an excuse to draw Baron Strucker

>>89987691
I loved the x-men, but I can't stand it anymore
I refuse to anything by marvel, until inhumans are decimated and cast off to moon or somewhere else.

I refuse for such shitty background characters to have such prominence. Anyone who supports x-books these days, supports inhumans, that's a fact.

>>90000557
Poor X-men they are the mexicans of the Marvel universe.

>>90000778
They are the beanflippers.
No abla mutanese

>>89997763
I don't really see that he's "static" but he doesn't have the change that someone like Wolverine does and he does have far more of an arc than Colossus or Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler especially, much as I like him, kind of gets the least amount of focus of any prominent X-Man.

But Scott's arc is established pretty early on in Claremont's run after Giant-Size. Jean is leaving and Scott desperately wants to go with her but he knows that he can't. He wants to have a normal life but his mutation and sense of duty both work to cause him to believe it's impossible. Every opportunity he gets to try and get out he takes and it never sticks.

He wants a normal life but for various reasons can never have it.

Maybe you guys can help me out.

I've never read an X-men comic before, but I finished watching the 90's cartoon, and now I want to start reading the comics with that specific team.

What should I read, and where do I start?

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>>90001933
Giant Size X-men #1

then Uncanny X-men #94 and on until you get sick of it

Alright guys, who's your favorite mutant who wasn't an X-man or a member of the Brotherhood of evil mutants and why is Molly?

>>89999833

That cover is fucking perfect.... god I love Mignolas work.

>>90001933
That "specific team" was the X-Men Blue team, which was featured in X-Men (volume 2). You'll want to focus on the Jim Lee run, issues 1-11.

2 things.

1.I wish generation x is good but i have my doubts because of the cast, no problem with the artist or writer desu

2. Logan just became the x-men movie
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_2017

>>90002113
Typhoid Mary.

Next?

>>90002113

In the Dp vs thanos mini, dp is stated as a mutant.

so I pick Deadpool.

>>90002607
She was in Sisterhood of mutants
during Wood

>>90002630
Wasn't Deadpool with the X-men for a while?

>>90002757
My headcanon stops in 1991.

>>90002113
Mandrill is a mutant right?

>>90002008
>>90002475
Thanks guys!

>>90002798

They specifically stated that he "wasn't" an x-man.

All I want is Rogue back in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite. Is that too much to ask?

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any hopes for Wolverine 3?

>>90003673
Yes, to be good.

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>>90002113
Tantra. I swear, Claremont is obsessed with deviant sexual fetishes.

Get a new shtick and maybe you'll be relevant again. It doesn't take much to impress 12 years old comic readers with "subversive" sexual fetishes because their hormones are raging.

>>90004268
>his power is GIVING PEOPLE WEIRD FETISHES
>also he's an elephant because fuck you
I love you, Chris.

>>90004328
Oh! A Claremont fan! Can you please explain to us why Claremont is obsessed with rape, tentacle porn, and underage girls?

>>90004659

As someone who knows nothing on the subject i would assume because he was obsessed with anime and manga and jap shit?

....just a wild fucking guess...

>>90003673
just watched a review on it, i have high hopes for it

>>90004659
1.) Rape and tentacle fetishes are ubiquitous.

2.) He's obsessed with underage girls in an "I wish to be the little girl" kind of way, same as Joss Whedon - see Kitty, Illyana. Sexually, he's more into powerful women who could control and abuse him, like Storm and Emma. Note that his author insert character is Scott, the team's designated cuck, rather than Logan.

3.) His weirdest fetish is definitely infantilization. See Uncanny X-Men 112/113 and the Little Storm arc.

Basically he's your garden variety autogynephile autopedophile submissive. Go to /lgbt/ and you can find a whole board full of us, it will seem quotidian after a while.

>>90005301
Also he's just into body horror in general. Storm turning into a statue, Emma and Storm swapping bodies, Storm turning into a Space Whale, Storm getting depowered, Storm getting de-aged, Illyana being age-accelerated and growing horns and a tail, Xavier and Caliban merging into one creature, Jean growing tentacles, Doug getting infected by the transmode virus, Betsy getting cybernetic eyeballs, Lady Deathstryke getting cyborged… I could go on.

>>90005489
this all sounds like run of the mill comic book stuff that happens in 99% of comic books

>>90005851
Newsflash: most comicbook writers/artists are perverts.
Just like almost everyone everywhere.

>>90005944

see, now you've lost me because youre assuming most everyone else is as fucked in the head as you are.

please go kill yourself.

>>90006096
What?

>>90006118
You heard him, chop chop.

>>90003673
Wolverine by Hama Omnibus

>>90002008
I'll always recommend skipping that and 94-96. Pretty ancillary all things considered, not particularly great stories. Starting with 97 is where it becomes the Claremont X-Men and all the typical features of it (space adventures, introduction of the Shi'ar, etc.).

>>90002113
Exodus

He's not necessarily the greatest character but I've always liked his look and OP status and the fact that, generally, if he shows up it's kind of a big deal. He's one of the few X-Men characters whose appearance can elicit an "oh shit" reaction.

>>90005489
I feel like Masque is kind of the ultimate culmination of all of his fetishes.