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Chris Yost's alternative Clone Conspiracy

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If Scarlet Spider hadn't gotten cancelled we would have gotten a Clone story that would have been better than Clone Conspiracy in every single way.

> Jackal vs Sinister
> Every clone is involved
> NO GWEN

https://twitter.com/yost/status/832395486527000577

Another one to throw onto the "what could have been great" pile
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>>89987098
Does anyone have that beautiful edit where Traveler shows up?
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goddamnit
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>>89987098
God damn it. Fuck Marvel
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>>89987098
> NO GWEN
But if every clone were to be involved in a Jackal/Sinister donnybrook then Gwen would have to be there.
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>>89987098
> Every clone is involved
Would that even include Namorita?
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>>89987098
>NO GWEN

A clone story with no Gwen bait? Sounds like shit.
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>>89987098
Excuse me for a minute... I have the need to murder something due to what was one of my favorite books being cancelled. And hearing how more good things that could have happened? Didn't happen.
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How much you wanna bet Yost mentioned this at some Spider-Book meeting back when Scarlet was still up and Slott got wind of it and decided to start planning Conspiracy so he could have the definitive Clone sequel story in his definitive Spider-Man run
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>>89987759
So, while she was alive, did Pete ever get to ask her about when she had her cherry popped?
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>>89987123
>Does anyone have that beautiful edit where Traveler shows up?

Here. The author of this is a champ at writing.
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>>89988352

Last page (for now?)
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>>89988368

Ok. There was another page (my mistake).
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>>89988030
She left the country not too long afterwards. He was so excited when she returned he didn't bother to ask why she still stank of Goblin.
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Who is sinister? Sorry guys I'm out of the loop
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>>89988465

Big bad of the X-men. From the 19th century, acquired immortality (and other powers), likes to experiment on people.

Has made a bunch of clones of himself, Jean Grey and others. A charming (but absolutely no morals) fellow.

Kinda looks like a vampire and has advanced technology (has worked with Apocalypse in the past).
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>>89988465
Mr Sinister

Cloned Jean Grey as part of a plot to breed a baby out of Cyclops, so he could raise said child to kill his former boss Apocalypse.

Also, used cloning tech to make sure his personal murder squad the Marauders never died via replacing them with clones when they died.
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>Yost writing clone conspiracy done right will never happen
Fuck this gay earth straight to hell
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>>89988555
It could have sucked. X-Men writers would have demanded Yost not have Sinister job and probably make Yost kill Maddie Pryor off in horrific fashion.
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>>89988636
You have to admit that no matter how bad it might have been, Yost's would be clone event would have been miles better than Slott's dumpsterfire of a clone "event".
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>>89987098
>every clone
>no gwen

so not every clone, since she's got a half dozen clones out there
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>>89988674
Are they all Goblin fuckers, or is that just Gwen Prime?
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>>89988555
If God is merciful, he'll get to do a redo later on like the revised Clone Saga.

>>89988705
Prime. All the Gwen clones were created as Miles Warren's sexdolls.
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>>89988782
Can't say that I blame him. I have a weakness for blondes myself.
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>>89987098
Isnt Yost still with marvel? Oh well, who i'm trying to fool, Kaine's book is never coming back.
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Yost needs to get back to writing comics and quit fucking around in Hollywood

If Ben Reilly is anything other than a complete villain and antagonist in his series that is being hunted by Kaine I am going to lose my shit.

He's been Jackal since spider island. He's got an astronomical body count, kidnapped Spock and Kaine, tried to have Peter killed, captured and tortured Kaine, and caused BILLIONS of deaths across dozens of alternate world's where Peter and Kaine weren't there in time to stop him.

He deserves a bullet in the brainpan and a shallow ditch to be buried in.

This isn't Ben Reilly, it's a doppelganger with stolen memories. "The Jackal killed me 26 times so now I'm a psychopath trying to infect the entire world with Carrion. Also I try to murder Peter so I can take his place as Spiderman. Also I'm an incompetent retard and as dumb as every other poorly written villain because Slott is a hack"

God I hate this shit so much. In a universe where gods, magic, souls, and therfore afterlife are all completely canon, how fucking hard would it be to just borrow Dr. Strange for ten seconds so he can look at clone Gwen and Jackal-Ben and definitively say "yes these are distinct conscious entities and not the same individual you knew"

It's not like the Spider family doesn't regularly engage with magic fuckery and souls and it'd be out of character or anything. In the current Spiderman/Deadpool ongoing wade and Shiklah rescue Peter's soul from a limbo-hell maintained by Mysterio aftet deadpool is tricked into killing Peter Parker (who he didn't know was spiderman). Then mephisto shows up and calls peter a cuck.
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>>89988394
dammit, this is exactly what I thought the perfect way to rehabilitate Traveller as character and make sense of everything
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>>89990182
>He's got an astronomical body count, kidnapped Spock and Kaine, tried to have Peter killed, captured and tortured Kaine
Also jerked off Peter, let's not forget that.
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>>89990182
>Then mephisto shows up and calls peter a cuck.
God dammit, my sides.
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>>89988005
Supposedly, Slott has been trying to get Clone Conspiracy green lit for like 5 years. He was previously working under Tom Brevoort, who repeatedly told him to fuck off about the story.

Then soon as Brevoort leaves and Nick Lowe takes over, magically Clone Conspiracy gets through. Probably some bullying tactics or something involved.
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>>89988465
>Sorry guys I'm out of the loop
>For a character that has been around since 1987

Found the casual.
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>>89990182
>This isn't Ben Reilly, it's a doppelganger with stolen memories. "The Jackal killed me 26 times so now I'm a psychopath trying to infect the entire world with Carrion. Also I try to murder Peter so I can take his place as Spiderman. Also I'm an incompetent retard and as dumb as every other poorly written villain because Slott is a hack"

But anon, Slott and Lowe wanted to bring back Ben in a way that fans would truly appreciate (said in interviews).... you mean this isn't what you wanted?! /s
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>>89990182
>I'm a psychopath
>Also I try to murder Peter
>Also I'm an incompetent retard and as dumb
It's the perfect setup for Spidercide, Yost even left an opportunity for it, yet Slott never considered it.
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>>89991981
> people always said it was a bad idea to clone a clone

yeah no shit Warren, that's like double incest.
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>>89990182
>how fucking hard would it be to just borrow Dr. Strange for ten seconds so he can look at clone Gwen and Jackal-Ben and definitively say "yes these are distinct conscious entities and not the same individual you knew"

Or the opposite, if that were the case.
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>>89992251
>that's like double incest
I've never wanted something more in my life.

>>89991981
From the looks of Ben's new suit, Spidercide 2.0 is exactly what they have in mind.
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>the cover is literal
Fuck this gay earth.

ASM #I Lost Count With Relaunches preview.
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>>89995597
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>>89995639
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>>89995649
Ok. So it's possible that the Jackal that kidnapped Spock and Kaine WAS Warren? Maybe that happened while Ben was dying 27 times?
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>>89995998
I'd count on that
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>>89995998

Not buying Slott's shit. He wasn't planning this shit 6 years ago during Spider-Island.
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>>89995998
Did you read Clone Conspiracy #5? Ben Reilly is a psycho. The recent Jackal appearances were definitely him.
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>>89996134
Yeah, he was. He was trying to lead into Clone Conspiracy way earlier. But Tom Brevoort told him to fuck off 3 or 4 times and shot down his Clone Conspiracy story multiple times.

Soon as Tom leaves and Nick Lowe steps up.... that story gets announced.
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>>89995649
I thought Ben killed the original Warren?
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>>89996302
The panel was sure setup to look that way, but okay, we know he wasn't BSing Peter now.
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>>89996357
>we know he wasn't BSing Peter now.
Wut?
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>>89996388
He said he didn't kill Warren, but the panel REALLY looked like he just had killed him.

So if he had killed Warren he'd been bullshitting Peter.
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>>89987098
>Jackal vs Sinister
Shit like this pisses me off when Marvel doesn't allow writers access to X-Villains. I'd kill to see a Genetics Arms Race between Jackal, Sinister, High Evolutionary, Dark Beast, Phaeder, and all the other guys involved with biotech.

I remember somebody a long time ago mentioning why the fuck didn't Marvel just keep Ben/Scarlet Spider around to operate in California. He's the Spider-Man of the West Coast for younger readers to latch onto while Peter remains in NYC as a new father and juggling work with being Spider-Man. But those chucklefucks in charge of Marvel lack the gray matter to do this.
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>>89996504
>I'd kill to see a Genetics Arms Race between Jackal, Sinister, High Evolutionary, Dark Beast, Phaeder, and all the other guys involved with biotech.

That would be cool as fuck. I'd read that.
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I can't trust Yost after the debacle that was his New Warriors run. So bad.
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>>89995597
So this expands on it more then omega.
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>>89996235

Hoping an idea would get approved versus actually laying the foundation of an idea are different concepts. Never mind that Jackal and Ben-Jackal having different mannerisms. Keep on buying that shit, then.
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>>89995617
I guess ock and ben share scarlets body.
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>>89996721
Miles acted loop in the 90s saga and the first one.
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>>89996721
>Never mind that Jackal and Ben-Jackal having different mannerisms.

You clearly haven't been reading Clone Conspiracy.
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>>89996597
Exactly. There's all these villains with their own agenda and it astounds me that the genetics-based ones haven't tried to one-up one another in a free-for-all over the fate of humanity.

It also sucks that Marvel doesn't allow villains for other heroes to sometimes fight against other heroes. There was a really neat Hank Pym thread that suggested he fight against Mister Sinister seeing how they both came up with their own interpretations of bio-tech.
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>>89996504
>Jackal, Sinister, High Evolutionary, Dark Beast, Phaeder,

Isn't Phaeder dead?

I know he and his son revealed Inhuman technology secrets to the High Evolutionary, and later the Jackal.

Is he also involved with origin of Sinister in some way?
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