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The stuff that ruined respective shows
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>>89984661
Oh please. It's barely part of the show, quit your whinging.
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>>89984661
Fans. Fans always ruin shows.
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>>89984661
Yoou mean the only thing that kept fans talking about it after season 4?
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Finn fire crotch was worse than episodes with those two.

That episode sucked
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>>89984661
what, their friendship? i like their friendship. i like how they established this 'cold war' where both of them thought the other didn't want to be friends, for what sounds like CENTURIES, when in reality they both actually did want to meet up again after their brief acquaintance and subsequent running with different crowds. the idea that all that time, PB kept a t-shirt from this cool girl that represented everything she couldn't be as a prim little princess.. someone she respected but also grided under the occasional teasing from, the few times they saw each other..
and that all that time marceline genuinely thought the gift had been rejected because she had been watching to see if she'd ever wear it, and hadn't.. i mean, it's sweet, right?
i knew this girl in high school that I always wanted to get closer with because we both liked drawing anime, but she seemed way too kewl for me, too punk.. but years later we actually started hanging out as friends again, and now we're really close. it's nice.
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>>89984945
>their friendship

>In "Take Her Back" Bonnibel says, "Now my best friend is dying of poison because of me." In this sentence she was referring to Marceline. Marceline has a dream while inside of her "poison coma". Marceline is shown growing old with Bonibbel. Bonnibel is also seen kissing Marceline on her forehead, inside the dream. This dream is referred to in "Checkmate". Marceline says, "I was all old and withered. You were still nice and pink." Bubblegum responds with, "You think I'm nice?" followed by a blush. Again in "Take Her Back", when the Moon breaks into the safe, Bonnibel starts crying and pleading to Marceline to wake up from her "poison coma".

>In "Checkmate", when Marceline is doing "bat jacks"(jumping jacks) with Bonnibel, she describes a weird feeling in her stomach. Bonnibel suggests that it is fear, but then Marceline tells her she knows it isn't fear. Marceline then says, "Maybe its love?" Then Marceline's stomach starts to grumble. Jake arrives with snacks. Jake and Marceline are happy to have the food. Jake says, "I love you Bonnibel!" as he stuffs he mouth with a burger, and Marcenline says, "Me too Bonnibel!" as she stuffs her mouth with a sandwich.

>At the end of the episode "The Dark Cloud" Marceline thanks Bonnibel for helping her mature. She then says, "Now I guess we get to hang out with each other forever." Bonnibel reacts with a blush.
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>>89985076
isnt that sweet? they have such mixed-up ideas about trying to accept that the other actually accepts them socially, when for so long they assumed they were excluded. and they're both so UTTERLY friendless that, having reconciled, they are now each others' best friends.
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>>89984661
if you mean quality-wise, no. it became much more interesting and less"randumb"

in a comercial sort of way, yes. kids like funny random stuff, and kids don't enjoy lesbian drama. It just kept going because they can put on repeat the old episodes so rating don't fall.
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>>89984869
Right, because lore or just different subplots were nothing compared to an asspulled lesbian shit. This is why bubbleline retards need to be gassed.
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It certainly killed the fanbase in /co/. It was the first time the show got so much negativity, and it went rolling after that.
No fun fanarts, no lore discussion. Now everyone was fighting over shipping. It was awful. And unlike /sug/ or /frz/, the AT threads used to be great.
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>>89985166
>>89985169
>lesbian
oh come on you guys. did you never watch star trek? you can be a kirk and spock without giving each other the D
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>>89985169
I bet you think the simpsons is still as good as ever.
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>>89984803
SPBP

See: Arrow.
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>>89984803
Only if you let them.
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>>89985202
I don't watch Simpsons.

AT got better (more interesting) over time in my opinion, but Flame Princess and Bubbleline subplots are easily the worst shit in the whole show. It made such a huge drop in quality of certain characters that it's a crime and people who are responsible for that should be punished.
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>>89984661
>Hating Lesbians
What happened to you /co/? You used to be cool.
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>>89985239
>It made such a huge drop in quality of certain characters
Pretty sure I already argued this with you, but let me remind you that there are only THREE episodes that focus on these two together.
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>>89985239
neither of those are real subplots. one is a dropped plot (about as far from a plot as you can be), the other is imaginary

for the record, the last 7 years of simpsons (and family guy for that matter) has been a real upswing. not 'as good as ever' by a longshot, but ... better.
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>>89985198
i'm saying it's bad. i'm just saying it's boring for children.
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>>89985265
>Pretty sure I already argued this with you, but let me remind you that there are only THREE episodes that focus on these two together.

Well, that's even worse considering it only took so little time to make them the best lesbian friends ever.
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>>89985263
SJWs made lesbians uncool. Turns out most of them aren't as hot as they are on the porn.
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>>89985300
Ehh, not really. Don't forget they have a long history together. In the show they went from antagonistic, to on relatively good terms in What Was Missing. In Sky Witch they resumed their friendship properly. Then there are several episodes that have these two in them, that show their growing friendship in seasons 5 and 6 but is not the focus. In Varmints they became super close like they presumably were before, and Stakes/Broke His Crown continue this progression. It's hardly come out of nowhere as you seem to be implying. I'm only arguing that the impact bubbline has had on the show as a whole is relatively small.
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>hey I will treat someone who did tons of work for my kingdom like shit
>oh hey marceline~ *blush* what's up girl teehee
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>>89985263
I'm totally cool with it. But Finn better fucking end up with somebody god dammit. If they pull the whole "nobody is entitled to a relationship" high grounding crap when literally everyone else ended up with somebody just to try and be "progressive", I will burn this show from my memory.
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>>89984779
>several episodes dedicated to the ship
>barely part of the show
Shut the FUCK up
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>>89985765
Excluding Stakes, name 5.
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>>89985817
>excluding stakes
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>>89985817
Stakes was one big bubbleline fantasy, nothing else
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>>89984869
Adult fans you mean. Kids find romance plots either awkward to watch or lame or flat out boring.
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>>89985817
>Go with me
>What was Missing
>Red Starve
>Princess' Day
>Varmints
>Can I come in?
>Vamps about
>Empress Eyes
>Take her Back
>Checkmate
>Dark Cloud
>Skywitch
>Broke his fucking crown
>Wheels
That's more than just a few
You are dismissed.
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>>89986026
I admit it, I laughed.

Stakes didn't really focus on their relationship that much really outside the one with Hierophant. So, including Stakes I would say there's only about 5-6 episodes that have a decent focus on the two of them together.

>>89986125
>Go With Me
>Red Starve
>Princess' Day
>Wheels

You are delusional if you think these episodes are dedicated to bubbline. The only episode in Stakes that has heavy emphasis on the two of them is the Hierophant one.
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>>89986190
Go with me was the very first episode where we saw them interact with each other and the implications of them being in a relationship once were there.
Also forgot to mention The Invitation when they were on the beach.
Marceline gave PB her fucking coat to wear because she was cold. Only couples do that horseshit. Quit denying all the obvious evidence already. It just makes you look like a idiot
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>>89985500
Finn is a sperg that doesnt deserve anyone.
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>>89986257
He was only made that way because the writers had a hateboner for him for a long time, and only recently started to respect him as a character as shown in Islands.
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>>89986242
You misunderstand me /co/mpadre. I think there are romantic implications between them, but the thought that they are so prevalent that they can ruin the show is just silly.

I'm not even against the idea of them getting together, although I'm not particularly for it either.
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>>89986257
True
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>>89986304
Well, I don't really mind it either, but I just hate how people deny the impact that ship has had on the show and i just wish the staff would stop pandering to the most cancerous part of the fanbase with it
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>>89986322
It's so painful to watch
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>>89986356
Better?
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>>89986322
God damn it, I fucking hate that scene.
Why did they feel the need to even show that
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>>89986365
No
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>>89986413
You would think she would be okay with someone who has saved her life and her shitty kingdom several times rest his head on her lap, but nah.
He's just too "weird'
Fuck that entire season. This is where it all started to go downhill.
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>>89986242
>not having friends that cara about your well being and give you their coat when your cold
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>>89986445
If someone does that for you, they don't consider themselves your friend.
They are either planning to rape you, or go around telling everyone that you both are dating behind your back.
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>>89986440
That IS pretty weird though anon.
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>>89986372
To show that Finn is like a stray dog that goes wherever his master goes.

>>89986440
This, I never understood it. I get that she rejects him as a romantic partner but she could act like a mother/sister figure to him and make him a decent person. But no, make him an errand boy and tell to fuck off when he's not needed.
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>>89986372
There were still people who denied/ weren't into Bubbline, so the embittered dykes writing the show had to give a middle finger to the male alternative.
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>>89986257
>>89986322
>>89986413
DELETE

>>89986372
I guess some anon's gonna come out of the woodwork and say "it was a joke guys finn was getting too feel-y" but man fuck that explanation

>>89986488
God fucking DAMN do I want Finn to shut her down just once man. HE needs to put boot to ass with Princesses or ANYONE that tries to walk over him. We all Fern's gonna do that but they're holding out on Finn;s baddassery
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>>89986440
Agreed. Fuck the show from this point on.
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>>89986487
He just wanted to rest his head on her lap, its not weird at all for a young boy to do something like that with a female figure he trusts and loves.
Its not like he fucking raped her
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>>89986474
it´s not rape if i come
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I need more gifs of Finn suffering/looking like an idiot
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>>89986524
>I want Finn to shut her down just once man. HE needs to put boot to ass with Princesses or ANYONE that tries to walk over him.
Sadly this show belongs to feminist agenda now. Anything empowering a male character in the presence of women is just not going to happen.
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>>89986372
>>89985545

This is fucking retarded. Bubbeline is fine. Finn had a perfectly good love interest he actually had good chemistry with in Flame Princess. He never had any chemistry with Bubblegum at all and Marcy was a bro to him.

It's not Bubbeline's fault the writers decided to have Finn get cucked by Cinnamon Bunn for no reason, it had nothing to do with it. They have some sort of hate hardon for Finn's lovelife but that's not because two of the girls used to date when there are tons or other better options.
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>>89986531
I don't know, seems weird to me to do that with someone who's not family or a romantic partner. It's not like she's his mother.
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Finn was treated like shit by both writers and characters in the show. He just wanted to be a knight, that was full of loyalty powered by love.

But no, he had to be rejected like Quasimodo who's useless after he does his job. He wasn't even particularly bad in any regard, he was misguided. And how was that treated? With pure rejection and disdain.

Our life isn't any different and it really makes me think.
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>>89986591
>Bubbeline is fine. Finn had a perfectly good love interest he actually had good chemistry with in Flame Princess.
In the Playing With Fire comic yes. If you're talking about the show AHAHAHAHAHAno

>He never had any chemistry with Bubblegum at all and Marcy was a bro to him.
WWM, Pajama War, Go with Me they just shit over it to feel good about lesbians
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I wonder how people would have reacted if Prince Gumball treated Fionna the way PB treats Finn
I would post that domestic violence fanart of them, but I can't find it
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>>89986626
I project way too much onto Finn and seeing him get treated like this is just too much. Say what you will, but I grew up loving this character. It was physically painful to watch him get treated like this
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>>89986639
They would fucking love it. It'd be just like how Star vs. is now.
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>>89986676
Am I missing something here with that show?
Never really watched it.
Does the main girl get treated like shit or something
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>>89986690
main character got cuck
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They'll just do whatever those mentally challenged fucks want. If they want two female characters to be lesbians, they will do it no matter no what. Even if it means that a protagonist must suffer and be treated like garbage. This is how you spot sick, ill motherfuckers who prioritize their own insecurities over what is really important.

Finn was, is and will be shit because they want him to be. Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.
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>>89986639
It would be weird. Guy turning down hot teenage ass with curvy bod?

>>89986656
same anon. same
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>>89985266
>the simpsons
yes
>and family guy
nope

>>89985166
It became less random, but much more pretentious and annoying, and meandering. Seasons 4 to 6 are just shit. I hear it's better
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Where are the times when a hero was the one who got all the pussies and not a fucking waste that just stands and watches other people fuck?
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>>89986690
The male friend character keeps getting his own harem of girls who dig him, while the main girl has an unspoken crush.
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>>89986749
the prince was gay
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>>89986818
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>>89986818
They must have hired some college age tumblrites who saw a man getting ahead and put an autistic screeching halt to it.
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Reminder that Bonnibel takes it upon herself to act like a teacher to Finn, teaching him Geometry and I assume other subjects, purely out of the goodness of her heart, with no apparent benefit to her.
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>>89986818
He doesn't even have to be with either of females. Just make him fuck them and then go on a chill adventure.

Not literally but it would be fun to watch female characters to crawl over Finn.
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>>89985272
>>89986116
Kids watch AT? Considering the writers fucking hate kids and make huge efforts to alienate them
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>>89986959
like the older seasons but that kind of content is too problematic for young boys growing up
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>>89986949
You mean Lemonhope? She treated him way better than someone who was of some use before.
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>>89984661
That isn't Finn turning into a complete loser faggot.
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>>89987073
It's related
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>>89985545
>But Finn better fucking end up with somebody god dammit.
Well as far as the big 3 ships:
>Flame Princess
He already burned that bridge. Buh Dum Tssh.
>Marceline
She pretty much established he's not her type but who knows?
>Bubblegum
She's always seemed too mature for him but maybe someday when he's older. I mean she is an ageless gum golem and while she is pretty married to her job it's not as if she hasn't taken on suitors before.
Or maybe somebody else. Somebody who's a better fit relationship wise. Or maybe nobody. Sometimes people just don't find a partner.

>If they pull the whole "nobody is entitled to a relationship" high grounding crap when literally everyone else ended up with somebody just to try and be "progressive"
Oh lord. Okay this may be hard for you to understand so I'll use simple words:
NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO SEX.
NO ONE IS REQUIRED TO FUCK YOU.
IF YOU THINK THEY ARE, YOU ARE A SHITTY PERSON.

That being said, if you ever manage to get over that shitty mindset, I do hope you find someone to love you who does want to fuck you.
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>>89987080
No it's not. Finn/Bubblegum and Finn/Marceline are pure shit.
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>>89987140
don't get your tampon in a knot, he's just saying they shouldn't let everyone else find love, while the main character is stuck alone with some bs moral as a copout.
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>>89987184
This needed to be said. Fubblegum and Finnceline are trash.
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>>89987140
He could date one of the other girl characters or a new person you know.
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>>89987212
What's not trash then? Finn x Canyon? Or some other bizzare, retarded pairing that makes no sense whatsoever.
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>>89986989
PB had hopes that Lemonhope would free the Lemongrabs and lead them instead of doing the former and fucking off to be a hobo for hundreds of years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uDV2fhizE
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>>89987238
Yes.
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>>89987184
>>89987212
if those are pure shit bubbline is the piss icing plus the shit

>>89987140
back to tumblr moral busybody

>>89987238
inb4 he says FinntrGRASSED
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>>89987238
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>>89987238
>What's not trash then?
Anything else.
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>>89987248
Well if Canyon was his height... but at the same time she seems like a leftover from Billy, so yeah, I wouldnt like that.

Its just logical to ship Finn with characters that are from the beginning and are going to be till the end. Fubblegum is the best pairing when you look at their history together but it got fucked because PB had to be a lesbian. Flame Princess is the next, then it's... really nothing.

>>89987268
>>89987279
He kissed other girls before, it doesnt matter in any meaningful way. Although looking at Regular Show he may end up with her pretty easily to be honest.
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>Implying they'll retcon Huntress' age so she can get with Finn
It's the age fucks over Finn angle all over again. First was PB and now this.
>GRASSED
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>>89987268
>>89987279
This is the only girl that left that has shown legitimate interest in him.

Honestly, I would be fine if she remained abstinent but still had a crush on Finn. Anything besides Grass Finn stealing her away. PLEASE.
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>>89987314
Has Huntress Wizard's age been established?
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>>89987308
>Fubblegum is the best pairing

Not my fault you have shit taste, friend.
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>>89986125
Only a bubblinefag is able to bring up all the episodes where they have tiny appearances

Anyways yeah you guys are just looking for a scapegoat to blame what you don't like about the show on, with something that's barely even a part of the show. Or you're fubble/finnceline fags that consider a show ruined when your ship is
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>>89987335
im pretty sure she's hundreds if not thousands of years old
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>>89987348
>Fubblegum is the best pairing when you look at their history together

They are just closer to each other than anyone else, that's what I meant. They won't end up with each other, but it would make the most sense if it happened.
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>>89987361
here's to (you)
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>>89987371
lol its not going to happen.
How many more episodes must they make showing PB has no kind of romantic interest in Finn before you people get the picture?
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>GRASSED

I can imagine that very easily
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>>89985155
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>>89985545


Even if Finn does end up single at the end of the series so what? He's a desirable guy and it's not like he's had trouble finding girlfriends in the past. He'd find someone eventually.
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>>89987398
I said it wont happen, reading comprehension motherfucker
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>>89985192
/sug/ used to be pretty good before ship arguments dominated it too
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>>89987318
>Anything besides Grass Finn stealing her away. PLEASE.
That would be such a dick move on the writers' part that I can't believe they'd go through with it after that shit with Flame Princess.
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>>89987434
obviously bootyblasted bubbliner seething someone would challenge their ship

>>89987465
13 yo PB had potential
FP had potential
Roselinen had potential
even Canyon had potential
when will y'all learn
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>>89987416
Where did it go so wrong
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>>89987371
>but it would make the most sense if it happened.
I said this before, but man, it really wouldn't, considering one of them's permanently 18 and the other grows normally
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>>89987502
When you got into a show that from it's conception wanted to appeal to modern youth and hipster trends

Cartoon lesbians are in these days, get into something that's not preoccupied with appealing to teens if you don't want surprise gay
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>>89987547
she looks like a mom holding her child
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>>89987547
he is like a little brother to her
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A little reminder of what could have been.
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>>89987547
>people made tall finn fanart in 2011
>he stays a fucking manlet till the end
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>>89987588
>>89987584
aggressive, but weak shitposts

>>89987650
sucks dick anon
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>>89986284
>only recently started to respect him as a character as shown in Islands.
Except he's still permanently lodged as the character who will forever be along because straight white males don't aren't OWED a relationship, you fucking fascist.
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>>89987668
>shitpost
>pb is the one who has to hold finn because he is so little
>the end of fucking series


its so pathetic I couldnt stop laugh
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Do you think PB will get to meet Hunson Abadeer?
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>>89987712
they aren't gonna put spoilers on the wall anon he'll get taller you'll see faggot
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>>89987637
How long did those two date, anyway? The only episode that really sticks out in my mind was when Finn was trying to raise his fire resist Final Fantasy 2-style to smooch FP.
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>>89987737
They already met in the comics
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>>89987760
Oh cool, which ones?
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>>89987668
It's not a shitpost. It's like whoever drew that made an effort to make it look as non-shippy as possible by making Finn look more childish than he's ever looked
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>>89987785
That's a shame because he is actually a little more mature now character wise but his design is not updated at all.
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>>89987785
>Can't even draw them hugging like close friends >alter Finn to look childish instead
not shiptalk but damn man
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>>89986591
>It's not Bubbeline's fault the writers decided to have Finn get cucked by Cinnamon Bunn for no reason, it had nothing to do with it.
It told us where their priorities were. They want to write lesbo romance more than they want to right about the actual supposed protagonist.
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>>89987784
Marceline and the Scream Queens.
Its all just bubbline pandering though.
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>>89987140
It's almost like we want to see the main hero succeed.
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>>89987836
Thanks.
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>>89986372
Well, if one of the Writers tweeting about Finn deserving to suffer is any indication, they just hate him
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>>89987482
>13 yo PB had potential
You could end the show with younger PB kissing Finn on the cheek and calling him her hero.

Seriously, I'd be okay with it if it had ended at season 2. It was a perfect cut off point.
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>>89987650
See, I just don't see why they halted his aging at 16. It'd have been cool to have him continue to age with his VA.
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>>89987831
But they didn't even write "lesbo romance". They dropped scarce bits of bait that didn't require actual writing at all
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>>89987942
Some bullshit about "brand recognizability" and sales might go down if they changed his look, which is of course complete horseshit.
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>>89987912
Am I the only one that actually prefers later seasons? The first ones were fun but shallow and Finn was a little shithead. I think the show's gotten much funnier and interesting as time went on
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>>89987955
They devoted more time to Bubbline than any of Finn's romantic endeavors in the last few seasons.

Or any long lasting changes for Finn, excepting Islands. The guy hit a brick wall and hasn't advanced at all because the writers don't give a shit.

>>89987971
You think it'd be easier to draw him as slightly taller or more muscular. It's not like AT sells many figures.
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________________________________made you look lol_____________________
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>>89987986
I like both eras about the same.
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>>89987986
after S3 it got super up it's own ass and diverged into hardcore "HUR DURR DEEP RELATIONSHIP DRAMA" and shitting on Finn
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>>89987912
>>89987986
Like, I think that would've been such a boring way to end the show and I wouldn't of got to see like 80% of my favorite stuff from AT
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>>89987757
If he didnt get taller at this point, he wont get at all. Sure we can get some future badass whatever shit, but that doesnt matter.
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>>89985765
>characters can't have their own episodes together without it being romantic
Part of me wants to make fun of you but another part of me is sad that you have no friends and thus associate any time spent with another human being as necessarily romantic.
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>>89987220
Like when they introduced FP? Boy that sure worked out great huh
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>>89987988
The HW episode alone was more time spent on his love life then bubbline

And for a while there they avoided any shipping shit at all. Finn went through an arc of getting back on his feet, focusing on himself, and becoming less awkward around girls after the disasters with PB and FP, and Marceline barely ever showed up
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>>89988069
I would do the same, but I was taught that its not nice to make fun of the mentally retarded
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>>89988019
How is that a boring way? Finn defeated an ancient evil and he got the kiss of his dreams.

Not everything needs a tweeeeeeeeest.
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>>89988099
>you're reasoning means nothing because I'm calling you retarded for disagreeing with me
wew, lad
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>>89986322
I haven't watched this show in 3 years and this causes me actual pain
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>>89986322
Why would they even dismiss him in that moment, he wasnt even doing anything there. I guess he cant even put his hand on a female body in any way.
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I wouldn't have minded Bubbline so much if they didn't decide to go the hardest shitting on Finn at the time they clearly decided to cowtow to Bubbline fans.

This >>89986322 will never fail to piss me off. It's just so mean-spirited and unnecessary. Did the Bubbline tumblrites eat that kind of thing up or something?

I will forever dislike that ship because I associate it with what happened to Finn's character. And I'm a girl so no, it's not because I "identify" with Finn and want him to get whatever woman he wants. I hate that fucking argument.
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>>89988454
It's pretty clear that there's a group of writers who just plain don't like Finn.

Between that, getting cucked by cinnamon bun, generally being treated like shit, etc

If it were leading up to Finn going evil out of spite I'd accept it, but it's still pointlessly mean spirited from Bubblegum, who went through shit like The Tower to cheer Finn up.

>tfw we'll never see Finn fight IceKingMertens
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lesbians ruin everything
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They do
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>>89988558
They do
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>>89988558
Correction: yuri fanboys ruin everything.

And tumblrinas.
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>>89988558
Only western lesbians are bad.
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>>89988650
Fuck off back to /u/.
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>>89988454
It's a joke Jesus Christ. You people are even more sensitive than the tumblrinas you hate. There are PLENTY of scenes where there is physical contact with Finn and pb/marceline, but you continuously take this one scene as evidence they don't give a fuck about Finn. It was an inappropriate time for a group huddle. Yes it's a lame joke, but the intention is obvious. At this point, it's like you want to be offended by the show. Instead of focusing on the countless moments of friendship and compassion between Finn and PB/marceline, you take one scene out of context and choose to be upset about it, once again, just like tumblrites. Pathetic.
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>>89988942
>countless moments of friendship and compassion between Finn and PB/marceline
I want pictures. :D
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>>89986322
>His smile and optimism: gone
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>>89988942
People don't have to like the joke. The fact that you're so triggered over people disliking it makes it seem like you're the sensitive one.

I'm guessing you're the same person who puts effort into defending Bubblegum over and over again in thread after thread. How are you calling anyone else pathetic?
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>>89989100
Why didn't they keep PB young?

Could've had some funny stuff about her being re-educated on how to be a monarch and having to establish herself as being just as capable as her older self.
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>>89988180
I mean that it's boring

Things don't need twists to be interesting, sure cliche happy ending would be alright I guess but I think the idea of it ending there is what makes it sound so boring to me, Before AT and Finn got a chance to be anything more
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>>89988514
>>89988454
>Finn going evil out of spite I'd accept it
I think you guys exaggerate Finn's suffering a lot

A teen boy has girl troubles? Oh god why doesn't he just end it

I will never understand why people are so passionately defensive about him
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>>89989149
What if PB makes herself a daughter at the end of the series?
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>>89989245
Compare how Finn was treated in the earlier seasons to how he's treated now.

He used to be fawned on and be a renowned hero. He doesn't really get that anymore, especially from his primary monarch, PB.
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>>89988409
it is pretty awkward to randomly put your hands on peoples shoulders and just keep them there while they're standing around trying to discuss something serious. you'd brush his hand off too

be mad that they still got him doing awkward shit like that

or don't be mad when you realize it's just a dumb cartoon that consistently makes jokes about social fuck-ups
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>>89989253
>Finn ends with the daughter PB and Marceline made through some magic mumbo jumbo

Talk about sloppy seconds
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>>89988966
Not them but while there's not much for Marcy because she's never in the show, shit between Finn and Pb is great. Like that pajama episode or that one recently where she was chatting with him in the hospital and I don't fuckin know, but I know they have casual interactions in a lot of eps and it's usually friendly
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>>89989292
Because he was a naive kid, people love good-hearted harmless naive kids. He just wanted to be a hero and go on adventures, he was a cute little fucker without problems complicating his simple life goals. People love the pure

Teen boys with complicated feelings, dubious intentions, and awkward mannerisms have a harder time being lovable, but he's been growing up and he's becoming a man that is truly likable. PB can show him affection without him making it weird, like the hug in Islands and the kiss on the forehead from some episode I can't remember
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>>89988659
Complete truth

In Japan fujos are a problem though, fuck I just want my hetero otp doujins, not all this yaoi.
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>>89989245
Seriously the over-projection and identification here is so fucked up, Finn still has a great life overall, you'd think he was in a fucking concentration camp or had starved to death totally alone in a third world hovel fucking hell.

If the worst thing that's ever happened to you is breaking up with a girl or even more faggoty and lame just not getting together with some girl you are a lucky whiney little special snowflake faggot who cries over a papercut and has no real problems. That's not even the worst thing that's happened to Finn!
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>>89989113
>People don't have to like the joke.
I also think the joke was lame, my point here is that it IS just a joke.

>The fact that you're so triggered over people disliking it makes it seem like you're the sensitive one.
Fair call, and I'm very aware of my apparent hypocrisy. I only want to dispel this falsehood that PB treats Finn like shit which has been perpetuated to death. Noone seems to care whether it is fair or not, it's just become an accepted fact.

>I'm guessing you're the same person who puts effort into defending Bubblegum over and over again in thread after thread.

Not me but I do know who you're talking about, (pretty certain they're in this thread). As you can probably tell, I do agree with them that saying Bubblegum is a callous bitch is unfair.
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>>89989811
This is my first post in the thread so I'd like to ask.

At what point are people "allowed" to feel bad about things that happened to them, in your opinion?
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>"I don't like ___ bcuz ruined ___?"
Fuck off you whinny little bitch.
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>>89989944
When they undergo permanent delitization
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>>89989944
You're always "allowed" to feel bad but you're just a whiney pussy crybaby if somebody not going out with you stands out as a big tragedy and not just a totally normal thing that everyone everywhere goes through. Finn's life isn't absolutely perfect but some posters are acting like it's utter shit when he goes on fun adventures and has friends and people who love him. The terrible thing most people see is what, he doesn't have a gf right now even though he has before and gets interest? That's totally normal. Things like monsters constantly trying to kill him or living in a post apocalyptic wasteland are genuinely traumatic but in these threads it's always "poor Finn he had a crush on PB and and she doesn't like him back" who cares?
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>>89990178
>You're always "allowed" to feel bad but you're just a whiney pussy crybaby
Reiterated then:
at what point are people allowed to feel bad about things without being a "whiney pussy crybaby"?
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>>89990315
When their dog dies. No other time.
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>>89990409
Not family or any other pet?
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>>89990460
nope. just dog.
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>>89984661
influence of tumblr
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>>89990483
I disagree.
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>>89988454
ty m8 it needed to be said to the defense drone moral busybodies ITT
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Só vim falar que a Noitosfera é FODA! vlws flws..
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ITT: Finn X Fire Princess fans mad just because their love is not real.
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>>89989100
>"PB. No. don't be weird"
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>>89988942
>countless moments of friendship and compassion between Finn and PB/Marceline
Excluding Marceline and Seasons 1-2, post atleast 3 examples with PB.
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Poor, lost souls. I pray that one day, all of you will be able to see the pure perfection that is bubbline.
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>>89991310
Stop being a monkey.
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>>89990178
If you can't see him being treated like garbage by his so called friends, then I really pity you. He's just an errand boy to do crap, riddle me this: why didnt PB make a sex robot for Finn? Because she keeps him on a chain like a dog he is. He wouldnt be a so loyal knight or whatever if he could just fuck off with robo PB. He uses him, plain and simple.

Hell, maybe she has such disdain for Finn that she cant see anything that resembles her around him. It's pathetic and very sad.

>inb4 its joost a cartoon virgin xd
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>>89984661
What you mean more specifically was shipping/romance in general.
The show derailed hard with that shit.
I know they do it as an easy way to get viewers.
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>>89986690
star is a cuck
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>>89991427
Sure.
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>>89992116
>they are standing next to each other so that counts lel
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>>89992208
Do you want them to be fucking each other or what?
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>>89985155
No they want to fuck each other
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>>89989347
They are his friends and they are having a group discussion about their course of action. It's a team huddle.
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>>89992233
If I stood next to you in line, does that mean im showing you "compassion"?
No?
Then shut the fuck up. Out of that collage you made I see only one example where that applies
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>>89988942
He doesn't really hang out with marceline anymore and all his PB interactions are a conflicted mess. She is poison to his character at this point
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>>89992288
I can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse, or if you're actually retarded. First off it was 'friendship and compassion' so nice move of the goalposts there. Secondly, the first, fourth, fifth, sixth and tenth photos are examples of compassion. PB checking Finn is okay after Goliad was attacking him, putting on a music concert to cheer finn up. hugging Finn before his voyage telling him to return home safely, concern over Finn's general well being, and trying to help Finn get over his anger towards his dad.
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>>89992281
guess they didn't wanna huddle with him then
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>>89986322
>that one season where he was developing as a character and you thought he was going to grow with relation to others

Really sucks that they shot it in the foot to prolong the series
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>>89992453
which season was that again
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>>89992355
No, anon, you don't understand. If she didn't let him destroy her vagina or give him a blowy joey then she obviously hates him!

Seriously, Adventure Time has some fucking issues, but it's got nothing to do with Finn getting laid. Hell, the focus on all of that was the point where shit started going downhill in the first place.
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>>89985272
Well that explains OP then. . .
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>>89992493
Agreed. All the Flame Princess episodes sucked except for that dungeon one.
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>>89992427
Point is, that wasn't an awkward time for him to do it. They just didn't want to because...reasons? They don't like being touched? They didn't want to involve him in the discussion? They just don't like him? The fuck was it? It really isn't clear at all and not only kills the joke but outright confuses the audience
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>>89992355
You lost man.
Just accept it and move on.
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>>89992493
Literally everyone has acknowledged that they don't want PB to fuck Finn, they just want her to stop treating him like she's disgusted to be around him when they are supposed to be friends.
You people really have no counter arguments you have to result to that sexual favors bs
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>>89992582
>>89992606
There's only so many times I can point out the facts. If you want to live in your own delusion, that's fine by me.
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>>89992672
sure, you can go now
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>>89992895
nah bro you gtfo and he stays
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>>89989603
The rule of thumb: If it has more females than males, het or yuri doujin. If it has more males, yaoi doujin. There's no in-between,
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>>89992606
I agree, PB "loving" Finn would be out of her character because she is asexual, unless it's Marceline lol. But she is definitely unstable when it comes to her perception of Finn. One time she somewhat cares about him, though it still seems not genuine because she just wants him to stay alive, so he can do shitty quests for free. The other time his presence is an issue and he should just fuck off. He seems like someone who is worth anything when he is useful, after that fuck off kiddo, go play with cat turds in a sandbox. It's sad that he's still that guy.
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>32 episodes left
>Finn is still a fucking cuck

https://youtu.be/dvNzuj79jRM?t=1m37s
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>Finn: "What Am I To You? Your joke? Your Knight? Or Your Brother?

>PB: "A joke! Right, Marcy?" *nudges her playfully*
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>>89986322
People don't act like this, they just don't.

Some bizarre person that's a complete bubbline fag at CN snuck some notes or made a call to the animation team and specifically requested that and the actual writers missed it.

It's the only explanation.
>>89989347
>it is pretty awkward to randomly put your hands on peoples shoulders
No, it isn't. Holy shit, anon...do you not have any friends?

Real talk here, man. Do you not have any friends in real life?
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>>89997175
pretty sure my not having any friends doesnt change that its weird for people to touch you
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>>89984779
>barely
The fucking movie is full of it!
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Loli Bubblegum was the best girl and the show now has too much bullshit and delved way too far into the worldbuild of dumb shit I don't care about instead of the small tidbits of stuff I did.
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>>89997175
>>Some bizarre person that's a complete bubbline fag at CN snuck some notes or made a call to the animation team and specifically requested that and the actual writers missed it.
>
>It's the only explanation.
There's a lot of Bubblinefag writers on the show. You got the open ones like Muto, Hanna K and Emily "Got Groped by the Dope Now My Ship Is the Pope" Partridge. Then closeted ones.

Seo Kim might be a Fubblefag but I'm not sure.
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>>89997560
Contain your stupidity.
>>89997487
I don't even know what to say to you, get some friends.
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>>89997723
Well if a showrunner is a bubbleline fag, then there's no hope for anything good in that regard. We live in a wrong timeline where Pen decided to fuck off.
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>>89997617
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What was the point of stopping Finn's aging if he doesn't get taller anyway?
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>>89998727
There's a clear size difference compared to his first appearance.
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>>89999880
I mean he got stopped at 16, so he can't reach 18 at all I guess. And before that he wasn't getting much taller. People really grow up and Finn seems like he doesn't. Maybe he's just a fucking manlet and I am overthinking it.
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>>89985236
Explain /mlp/ then
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>>89995170
What a great vid. I laughed.

But I will be pissed if Finn does get

GRASSED
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>>90000214
The firstwave fans let that happen, duh.
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fuck hetero white males, they should have changed the protagonist after Finn's fiasco
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>>89987942
>halted his aging at 16
you mean at 12? he never aged.
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>>90001856
12 (debut)
13 (as of "Mystery Train," seasons 2-4)
14 (seasons 4-5)
15 (seasons 5-6)
16 (seasons 6-7; revealed in "The Comet")
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>>89991850
they're such good friends though anon can't you see?

SEE IT
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>>89998111
Ding ding ding. There's the problem.
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>>90001939
Yeah but his post implies the show was actually doing something to Finn's character design to make him older, then quit. They've never done anything. Time just passes and his voice naturally gets deeper, but that's zero effort.

I mean, he's going to be 17-18 officially soon enough, but he won't be any different than he was at 16 because the VA is now an adult and his voice change is done.
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>>89998111
Pendleton is still a writer. He got a writing credit on varmints even.
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>>90002235
You'd think having him age in real time is a thing they'd do, seeing as it's not something you often see in cartoons.

Sadly we'll never get manly as fuck Finn like in Puhoy.
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>>90002292
The problem is that he let something like bubbleline to happen and then grow. At this point he can only adapt to this shit because it's too deep now to be removed.

>>90002422
Yeah, in the end he is so small it's laughable >>89987547
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>>89999966
Even real manlets are taller than they were as children though. Just goes to shows how little they give a shit about the MC's (literal) growth that they won't even bother to change his height to something appropriate.

Personally I think a big reason for it is, if he was taller than PB, their relationship would start to change.
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>>89986322
Here's how you make the scene work.
>Bubblegum pushes off Finn's hand nonchalantly
>Marceline pats Finn's hand with her left hand gently, sort of narrows her gaze at PB, and keeps talking, as Finn naturally moves his hand down, and PB looks away for just a second
It moves it from just 'don't touch me peasant' to a better character study of WHY the two work together. Bubblegum's this character of gentleness and radiance but in person she's an antisocial avoidant person who methodically rejects physical affection, even platonic gestures, subconsciously. Meanwhile, Marceline, the seemingly evil one, is in person more empathic and concerned for others, and able to correct PB when she's being autistic and uncaring, and reminding her, subtly, like girls like to do, that Finn is a friend and he's just being friendly. And nothing I said wasn't already established in story as how they act.

Bubblegum's able to provide order to the pairing, and Marceline can keep the emotional core in check. You can have lesbians and not have them be anti-males. Sometimes people are trying to be friendly and they're not getting it can weird people out and there's ways to address behavior and acknowledge it gracefully while getting out of it. It's all shit like this that makes liking Bubbline so impossible for me. A pairing needs emotional purpose and connection, a mutual implicit spite of our hero for being near them isn't enough.

That's what makes this frustrating, there's no way to interpret it but a condemnation of Finn, and as this is HIS show, you the viewer by proxy. Like, how DARE YOU want to in the presence of these beautiful lesbians you pig person! An art that has spite for its own audience, even subconsciously, is as obvious as it is bitter.

Have some qt Marmar to wash down the tl;dr
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>>89986322
>>89986413
This, and the very first episode of nuPPG are the most quintessential cartoon bait of the 2010s

Korra finale has nothing on the potency of those examples.
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>>90002667
tl;dr bubbline is still shite
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>>90003304
Pffft, you want to see our hero succeed and do well in life?

TOO BAD, HAVE FANFIC TIER SHIPPING.
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>>90002422
We'll get manly Finn but it'll be in the last episode of the show.

We're literally gonna go from "Still looks 12 years old Finn" to "XBOX HEUG Guts Finn" in the span of a single episode and one character will comment "Gee wi Finn nice growth spurt" and they'll all have a hearty chuckle then the show ends.
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It makes me sick that the majority of AT fans are leaning towards Bubbleline. It clearly introduced changes that diminished the protagonist over time and made him look like a fool. I mean, I appreciate the theme of him undergoing character development but at the same time he was reduced to the point you can't ignore like >>89986322

You fucking retards don't understand the concept of having a character that has to be the center of the story in almost every way. This is called a protagonist. You can't treat him like shit and expect people to respect him. Hell, at this point I'd rather see Finn becoming hateful towards his past crushes or so called friends and point his middle finger to them. That is an honest feeling that I have developed for this show since watching it from the beginning. It's fucking pain to see those characters on screen in any way, that is what retarded writers have done because of their lack of insight.

Why couldn't they be just friends? Why do they have to push themes that make people immersed into the show sick and annoyed? If you go into this shit, finish it. Make them kiss and end this farce. Of course you are going to scare some people away but you don't care about that. No half measures, motherfuckers
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>>89989347
The shoulder is the least awkward place to touch another person. It's typically a sign of camaraderie to touch someone there. To reject that is to say you're not friends.
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>>89986488
>This, I never understood it. I get that she rejects him as a romantic partner but she could act like a mother/sister figure to him and make him a decent person.

I feel like I should point out/remind that PB does a piss-poor job at being mother/sister/confidant to everyone but Marceline
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>>90003525
Exactly this.
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My only issue with Bubbline (besides me not being interested in it) is that it existing is actively preventing Marceline and Bubblegum to interact with Finn like in an episode like What Was Missing. Now those two are forever glued to the hip and if Finn even manages to get featured in an episode there is a discernible distance between him and the ladies so an episode like WWM where they all exist on equal footing can't exist anymore.

It really sucks.
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>>90003619
What am I looking at?
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>>89984661
Agreed.
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>>90003666
In order to get back on equal footing with them they're gonna have to had Finn claw back a lot of ground he lost past breakup arc and do some really good shit and most of all: stuff Bonnie's piehole once she tries something immoral or talks to him like shit.

Islands gave him a boost all we can do now is see where they take it from here.
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>yfw Pajama War 2
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>>89987986
>Finn was a shithead
You take that back you slut, early season Finn was a qt with a heart of gold and was a joy to watch onscreen. Makes me feel sad whenever I go back to early episodes and see how much he used to love life.

With that being said I like the late seasons too.
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>>89986861
>autistic screeching halt
Mind if I use that phrase? It would suit my day-to-day conversation quite well.
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>>90005783
pls go bubblinefag
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>>90006224
>implying Jake gives a fuck about humanoid sluts
he's canonically only into horses dawg
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>>90006224
>>90006085
DELET
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>>90006254
He was so invested with partying with water elemental girls he forgot to save Finn and he almost died.
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>>90006348
that was because of the party, not the hoes. they were just so much more party fodder to him.

dumb cunts couldn't even appreciate his jokes.
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>>90006578
>all of season 6's mind boggling shit about prelife and resurrections and shit
just no
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>>90006578
i havent laughed this much in a long time.
thanks for these
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>>90006768
no

no thanks
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>>90006809
yes

yanksomesh
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>>90006809
Sorry, Finn is a cuck that deserves no one. Blame the writers.
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>>90006835
>>90006844
delete your insolent posts and return to reality!
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>>89986322
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>>89986690
Star has unrequited feelings for Marco, and he is getting pussy left and right from other girls while Star acts like a cuckqueen and watches. The /co/ fanbase fucking loves it, but irl fans, idk how they feel. Since the audience is mostly young girls they probably dont even care
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REQUESTING Star and Finn getting hung over at a bar next to each other because they both got monster cuk'd

>Star *has bags below her eyes*: "So. Who did you in?"

>Finn: "An immortal vampire with daddy issues, a pastry....and myself."

>Star: "...wanna fuck?"
>Finn *at the same time*: "Wanna Tier 15?"
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>>90007636
>*The shot pans out to Candy from Gravity Falls vomiting violently beside them*
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]Never even seen the show and I can tell OP is just whining. Not even worth a (you)
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>>89986690
I'm late, but don't listen to those other anons. The marco-harem-star-cuck thing is a complete joke.

Secondary main character is dating love interest, and unbenknownst to him the main character recently developed feelings for him. Anything else is a meme.
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>>90007363
This is the stereotypical harem situation. In the end, the one that truly wants the protagonist ALWAYS gets the protagonist.

It won't be the same for Finn. Well it might be, if he still had someone who actively wanted him.
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>>89986322
>"Tumblr feminists freak out about everything, can't take any joke at their expense."

>Sees a joke about a teenager around two way older women discussing a serious matter, thinking he's being subtle trying to touch them and get closer to them. Two women are just so busy and used to these antics and share a mutual understanding of annoying it is so they nonchalantly remove his hands without breaking stride in the conversation. Funniest visual joke the show ever pulled off, it's an entire established genre of comedy.

>"This is an offence against me! This is an offence against my gender! The feminists putting fluoride in our cartoons!'
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>>90009032
>Funniest visual joke the show ever pulled off, it's an entire established genre of comedy.
Nigga find me 5 perople on r/adventuretime, landofooo or tumblr who thought that was funny cause you're the only fag who slobbers over it
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>>90009154
Literally find one visual joke better than it. It was like some shit out of an animated version of peep show.
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>>90009273
different guy but I think this beats it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdNUJNuJwU

I thought the hand removing joke was alright but I don't really see how you're getting it as being the best one the show's ever done
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>>90009032
>Funniest visual joke the show ever pulled off, it's an entire established genre of comedy.
Can't see what's funny in treating a protagonist like garbage but everyone has a different sense of humor.
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>>90009273
ohhhh so you can't. therefore, you coming up ITT like your opinion about the opinions you don't like is wrong and you're just bitching

the VR world in Islands is MILES above that shite scene in stakes
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>>90009032
You have a strange sense of humour if you thought that scene was actually funny, and not cringe
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>>90009431
or if that doesn't float your boat. That scene in Mortal Recoil where the frozen lichified PB monster tipped over and broke in half. The faces of Finn and Jake along with Ice King's "alright everyone saw I didn't fuck her up this time right?" was better.
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>>89997617

Agreed, they reversed the change way too quickly. Putting PB down to Finn's level would have changed the dynamic in an interesting way, and could've given her a chance to learn how to be a better ruler.

Just leave somebody other than lemongrab as the regent.
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>>90009379
Alright Jake's silent scream is legitimately better.

Point stands people getting offended about this are a fucking embarrassment to themselves.
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>>90009532
props for actually agreeing with me guy.

I do think it wasn't really as big a deal as people make it out to be, and I say this as someone whose favorite character is Finn and think he got the raw end of the deal with Stakes. the hand moment was a little thing that could be ignored in itself (at least for me) but I feel like Stakes was full of little moments like that where the joke was at Finn's expense and it puts a sour taste in my mouth.
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>>90009532
>"NOBODY can show me a better example than that!!!!"
>literally gets proven wrong within 5 minutes
>"Well your opinion is shit anyways"
the fuck outta here
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>>90009431

'If you can't fulfill arbitrary criteria I came up with on the spot you're wrong."

Also

>you coming up ITT like your opinion about the opinions you don't like is wrong and you're just bitching

That's incoherent but even if I do my best here I'm pretty sure you meant to say 'right'
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>>90009513
It's pretty insane how differently the show would have been if they just made Lemongrab fuck off. Like why couldn't the candy citizens just revolt against him like they did with King of Ooo? Hell, Lemonman was actively worse than KoO, he was putting them all in the dungeons for no reason whereas KoO just wanted some doosh and a giant mushroom.

Show really would be unrecognizable all because of that one little act. I wonder if Finn/PB would last, even if they were both the same age he would grow older than her a lot quicker and if we follow the canon she was still fucking 800 years old. The whole loli Bubblegum incident is so odd relative to the rest of the show.
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>>90009532
People that defend those kinds of scenes are more of an embarrassment frankly
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>>90009625
Right here's a lesson.

If someone states two opinions, that do not rely on each other, you can't disprove one to beat the other.

Incidentally that's why you should avoid making more than one point at the same time, cause if you're wrong on a one a them crotch-licking trogladytes will think they can ignore the other idea they don't like try and order you to get the fuck outta places like they have power in the world
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>>90009603
I agree with ya. Guy can fuck off for saying that was the best gag AT has ever produced. Id take that as an insult even if i was on his side.
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>>90009699
It's an embarrassment to say people are disliking things for dumb reasons?

Remind me of this principle the next time someone trots out a story about how someone refuses to watch the simpsons because they think it supports patriarchal power structures.
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>>90009771
>Its an embrrassment to say people dislike things for dumb reasons solely based on my opinion????
Absolutely
>Remind me of this principle the next time someone trots out a story about how someone refuses to watch the simpsons because they think it supports patriarchal power structures.
What the hell are you even talking about? Those things have nothing to do with what mentioned earlier. You just come off like an idiot that can't handle any opposing comments about their favorite show, so yes you are an embarrassment.
sad...
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>>90009629
Alright then come back in 3 days with people supporting that joke then. Seems fair?

>>90009771
No you're bitching because people that didn't like the joke have something wrong with them because your taste is superior. You never made a point in the first place you just said people ITT who didn't like it are an embarrassment. The level of snark and "superiority" you think you have have is egregious.
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>>90009918
Nah, people don't get that mad because a joke fails on a technical level.

People are legitimately taking it offensive and feeling like it says a bunch of anti-men cultural shit. Read back up the entire conversations that came out of it and say you're not seein' it.
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>finn: thanks for seeing us off guys
>pb: yeah, of course, it's my boat


They are not even hiding it. Just let it go.
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>>90010074
But if Marceline was on that boat, PB would be full of tears and there would be a kiss of course.
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>>90009871
I legitimately don't particularly like adventure time. I just liked 'I remember you' enough to buy about three seasons of 'may as well watch it' good will.

And it has everything to do with it. The response to that gif is everything people say rabid feminists do just from the opposite perspective: read personal offense and an attack on your gender into innocuous humour.
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>>90009995
The only one calling it a joke is you, when it has been proven to just be writers taking the piss out of finn for fetish reasons
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>>90010074
Honestly the biggest developments for Finn in relation to PB and Marceline has to be after he comes home post-Islands
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>>90010120
But you feel obligated to argue with real fans of the show showing discontent at how a character they grew up watching is treated like a loser in own show
I hope someone breaks into your house and kills you without stealing anything and rapes your corpse for good measure.
The police report will say you died with a smile on your face.
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>>90010074
I like how Marceline low key snapped and had to remind PB not to be such cunt
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>>90010074
See I don't think that particularly was that bad but why has Bubblegum like consistently been a jerk to Finn in season 8?
Every episode she's been super snarky to him for no reason and seems extra annoyed by everything he does.

Her speech to him before he left was nice but does that just demonstrate that the only time she'll respect him and treat him seriously is when there's a chance he's gonna go off and die somewhere? Why does she have to be so jerky, legitimately don't get it.
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>>90010178
>real fans
>Can't handle Finn being an awkward, dumb kid instead of the godchild everyone should worship.
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>>90010205
he needs to actually put boot to ass once he recognizes snark or wrongful contempt coming from her. just like marcy did here >>90010203 >>90010074
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>>90010205
They flip flop her interactions with Finn a lot.

Like in that scene, she says something really cunty and snarky, but then she turns around and gives this speech about how she cares about him. Its that kind of inconsistent writing that makes it even more cringe whenever they interact with each other
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>>90010178
It started in 2010. If you actually grew up watching it it'd explain you taking the plots of crime shows you stayed up past your bed time to watch and furiously typing them at strangers on the internet
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>>90010205
>but does that just demonstrate that the only time she'll respect him and treat him seriously is when there's a chance he's gonna go off and die somewhere?

Yes, because she uses him a lot and it would be a shame if her most loyal and hardworking slave just died in some shithole

mostly this >>90010266
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>>90010266
There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to what PB thinks of Finn at the particular moment, they flip from her legitimately caring for him and considering a close friend or being an annoyance she seems to tolerate.

PB is the most inconsistently written character in the show, the way they shifted her personality so much is probably part of the reason for that.
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>>90010249
>"I don't think PB should be such an asshole towards Finn if she considers him a friend" somehow translates to wanting him to be worshipped like a god
Do you even know what you are arguing about at this point
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>>90010290
whoa, wow calm down its just a joke.

you know like how PB does with Finn
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>>90010362
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>>90010321
Jeez we get it, you're in love with Finn. Calm down there. It's a show for kiddos.
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>>90010402
Thanks for admitting your defeat.
I know it was hard, but with practice you can actually articulate your points without getting too over emotional at any opposing viewpoints
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>>90009995
I've never seen anyone seriously say it was anti-men. Just that it wasn't funny, was mean spirited, and was just the icing on the cake of humiliating the protagonist that had been baking for a long time.

That's what you're missing. The joke alone didn't cause all the anger. It has a lot of context that lead to people disliking it, including what some see as the writers actively shitting on the main character in a way that wasn't fun or funny. Just annoying.
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>>90010453
>GRRLS KISSING RUINED MAH SHOW
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>>90010494
Resorting to greentexting means you know you lost. Go whiteknight Bubblegum somewhere else.
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>>90010494
uh huh, that's nice. The door's that-a-way
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>>90010533
>>90010548
[AUTISTIC SCREECHING FOR BUBBLINE INTENSIFES]
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>>89987758
their entire relationship spanned about half a season, from FPs first appearance to the cinammon bun hookup finale. also there were weird continuity error filler episodes in there which were obviously written to have occured before any of it started. it's like five or six episodes total, actual time probably a few weeks.

she was just a 'flame'
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>>90010533
It's less defending Bubblegum and more pointing out that all of you growing up with Finn thinking he was great but wondering why the series is treating him like a spaz need to be reminded that Finn has always been a fucking weirdo. Just because it was good growing up doesn't mean it's still good. Maybe you've matured now and realize that Finn hasn't changed much at all and this is what really irritates you?
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>>90010317
They write her like that because they ship her with everyone. I mean as far as I can see.

>Finn's princess/crush
>Marcy's pal
>Ice Kings favorite
>Lemongrab's "mom"

And by ship I mean both friendship and relationship.
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>>90010720
That's not really a valid argument. Finn may be a weirdo, but so have most of the characters in the show.

That doesn't somehow magically make it okay or any less jarring to watch characters that used to genuinely like him, act like they are annoyed by his presence.
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>>90010249
Maybe if they didn't waste countless episodes on so called character development it wouldn't be such an issue. But here we are, season 8, where Finn is still treated like an annoying kid. Even characters like PB who know him the most besides Jake don't care about him much. It's pathetic, you would expect from her to see him in a better light than in the beginning. It's actually the opposite.
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>>90010914
Would anons in this thread say they were closer to each other in the first 2 or 3 seasons?
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>>89985263
Lesbians are trash, fampai
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>>90010948
Fuck no.
First two seasons PB may have used Finn as an errand boy, but you could tell she genuinely liked and respected him.

Now its really awkward considering what happened in the consequential seasons. And she doesn't seem to care much about him by comparison.
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>>90010948
Their relationship was more formal I think (the princess/knight roles were more strictly defined from what I recall) but I think on a whole they were nicer to each other. Well Finn was hopelessly in love with here so that explains his end but PB was more appreciative of his service and goofed off with him and at times even seemed to reciprocate his feelings.

Of course in retrospect of the whole show this makes PB seem more scummy, since the only explanation of the way she acted that makes sense if that she was manipulating this poor boy to do her dirty work.
I think they know each other a lot better now but while Finn seems to consciously ignore any of the fucked up stuff PB does and all her negative traits it seems like PB, while actually liking him on some level, considers him reliable muscle and the best part is she doesn't even have to pretend that she's into him anymore.

These readings of Adventure Time are so much more interesting than the actual show, I wish they existed on purpose and would actually be going somewhere.
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>>90011066
It's either she has some deep feelings for him that weren't show because she is autistic or she is written to give 0 fucks about him since she got her fuckbuddy. We got evidence for only one of those options, so yeah.
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Bubblegum views Finn as a pawn that's easy to manipulate, nothing more.
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>>90011083
>they'll never logically follow through with PB's old character arc and have her try to take over the land "for the greater good" and have Finn finally realize that she's been rotten all along and stab her through the gummy heart
I just want my boy to move up in the world, he's gonna be working for that shedevil until he finally dies and she goes "that's unfortunate" and looks for some new orphan in a silly outfit to handle her manual labor
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>>90011165
I think it's just clumsy and disorganized writers.
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>>90011278
Well, the show is suffering a lot from that, one would think that they could fix that just by focusing on that part, but no.
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>>90011165
AT FIRST she couldn't outright reciprocate her feelings because the excuse was that she was just too old, and that once Finn got older she would start returning his romantic feelings.

But then What was Missing happened, which started the whole Bubbline thing that ultimately ended up influencing a signigant portion of both Marceline and PB's interaction with Finn. And the original writers left and got replaced by new ones that wanted to take character relationships to a different level.

Then after that Incendium happened and it all just went downhill from there. Now they aren't entertaining the idea of them getting together like that, but they are still "friends"
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Can someone actually provide examples of PB treating Finn like shit? Outside of all the FP drama, their relationship has been fine the past few seasons, great even.
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>>90011386
Maybe you should pay more attention to the show.

Just an idea
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>>90011349
dude, Too Young is the moment it died. PB never gave any hint of reciprocating Finn's feelings or any promises of "Maybe when you're older Kiddo," none of that, even before the lesbos and Flame Princess it was dead there. Finn was still hopeful but it was pretty clear that he wasn't gonna make it.

everything else that happened just added some extra wight to drive the point home, but it wasn't even really needed.
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>>90011456
That all you got? Finn suddenly trying to take PB's crown with no explanation and PB accidentally cutting him, and then apologising for it immediately after?
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>>90011460
Maybe, you could say Too Young was the moment that killed any hope for the OTP, but that was still fairly early in the show and there was no active agenda on sabotaging Finn's character or his pursuits of romance among the staff.
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>>90004408
By all means. Once I submit it to the patent office.
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>>90011516
not sure season 3 counts as still being early in the show. maybe relative to what exists now but tha's it.

and yeah they always could have changed it if they desired but the point remains that Too Young was the point of no return, unless they shit on literal years of characterization and have Bubblegum get with Finn in the last episode of the show just because his balls drop and he gets a growth spurt or sumthin.
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>>90011511
Never said I was proving any examples. And from the sounds of it, you'd just dismiss any that were given. Youre not even worth my time.
That scene barely counts though since she was really suspicious of Finn's intentions for really no reason.
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>>90011574
The fact that he was being manipulated by the Lich isn't a reason?
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>>90011516
Finn deserves better, she's a self righteous bitch
Everyone knows it
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>>90011574
I can just as easily claim the same for you. I only say this because noone has provided any evidence that PB hates Finn. Literally nothing. Everyone is just parroting the popular opinion at this point.
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>>90011601
I know you think she is a goddess, but she's not omnipotent. You know damn well she didn't know Finn was going to give the crown to the Lich, and neither did he
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Man this thread is awful.
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>>90011643
People have been, you just actively ignore it.
It's really getting old
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>>90011653
But she did now, she comes out and shouts "FINN THAT'S THE LICH" before the guardian blasts his face off. It's nowhere near an unreasonable assumption that she figured it out beforehand and put two and two together.

And I'm not even a PB defender faggot, she's an inconsistently written cunt, but you're argument is dumb. Worst thing she did there was immediately try to avoid blame (That was an accident!) instead of actually apologizing to Finn. Both were at fault there.
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>>90011681
Wrong. I've been in this thread since the beginning, and asides from that ONE gif, noone has provided any examples. I have provided examples, but noone seems to give a shit.
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Finn should date Jake's Grandkids
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>>90011657
nah dude, AT threads where people get super into Finn and Bubblegum's psyche's are the best AT threads

the shipping wars are the shitty boring ones
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>>90011704
That makes no sense whatsoever. She was in her pajamas cutting up little candy people. If she had any idea that Billy was the Lich she would have been trying to stop Finn alot sooner.
Its possible she could have realized at that moment when Billy was putting together the crown pieces to open the portal, but even then that's pushing it.

Even if she knew prior somehow that Finn was aiding the Lich, why not say so during the struggle?
Finn doesn't really have any blame since he seriously had no idea, but that only makes PB look worse if she did somehow magiclaly know, but did nothing to resolve the problem outside shoving finn off of her.
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>>90011710
If you are who I think you are, you don't really post any good examples. Usually they are countered with other reasonable arguments and you spout your opinion as fact, and ignore opposition as usual.
Like I said before, same old dance really boring. Which is why you are small time
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>>90011798
Finn was trying to take her crown, which she must have known could be used to open the Enchiridion. When Finn left in a hurry she figured out "Oh shit maybe it's the Lich" and took a gamble on that being the case, and she was right. She only realized that once Finn and Jake left and she had a second to think, since the moments before that involved Finn suddenly bursting into her room and confronting her then she stabbed him, that's a lot to deal with in like 20 seconds and it took her a few moments to realize that. By the time she got outside she had formulated her thoughts but it was too late.

This is the only reasoning as to how she knew it was the Lich before Billy's face was blasted off.

When you examine it reaaaal closely I don't think the writing 100% makes sense but she still clearly knew that was the Lich dude. EVEN beside that, the original argument was that PB was suspicious of Finn for no reason, and that fact that he busted into her room out of the blue and was trying to take her crown is certainly a suspicious thing for him to do, so she had reason to be wary.
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>>90011210
>tfw Finn will never be a king
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>>90011832
Not sure if I'm who you think I am or not. Either way, I'd love to see some actual evidence.
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>>90011386
At least 50% of episodes where there is Marceline, PB and Finn together somewhere. And a fuckton of others I won't even mention because you will dismiss it anyway.
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>>90012042
Why would I bother when you would inevitably just undermine any evidence given
Not like your opinion matters, nearly everyone that isn't a waifufag realizes PB doesn't really treat Finn with that much respect any more.
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>>90011210
>mfw it's true
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>>90011210

>he's gonna be working for that shedevil until he finally dies and she goes "that's unfortunate" and looks for some new orphan in a silly outfit to handle her manual labor
for some reason i thought this was really funny when I imagined it and have been laughing for 5 mins now
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>>90012126
delet urself ree
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>>90012126
always happy to be of service. what's the point in the Internet if not to make other people laff.
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>>90012084
Again, you're just using ad hominem attacks. PB does care for Finn, and I don't have to look far for proof, see music hole, don't look, pajama wars.
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>>90011935
He would be a shitty kind though, there's an episode about that very concept
Finn's a doer not a thinker
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>>90012209
you too reee
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They might as well rename the show wasted potential time.

I'm watching the Farmworld episodes right now, and they could've been handled much better.
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>>90012381
I always thought those episodes sucked. The farm universe was really boring and even though lots of people seemed to like Ice Finn he didn't do anything for me.

Best thing to come from it was Prismo and he shows up later in better episodes anyway.
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i find PB to be kind of a bitch, but in defense of her:

Finn's crush was cute when he was ~13. She was, what, 5-6 years older than him? And he was still a kid. It was something cute she could deal with. Then, he kept on persisting throughout puberty and it became less of a childhood crush and pushed towards the creepier side of events. It's like the kid you used to babysit trying to make a move on you; I don't blame her for being put off by him.

That being said, it wouldn't fuckin' kill her to be more gentle with the guy.
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>>90012374
take it easy frogman, we're all pals here
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>>90012222
>pajama wars
if anything, it shows how inconsistent she is
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>>90012429
She's always been hundreds of years older than he was. She just looks like an 18 year old woman.
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>>89986578
and yet the only scene ever where he told off Bubblegum like she deserved was written by a woman. only Rebecca Sugar really cared about Finn's well being and growth, while the male writers emasculate him. what's up with it?
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>>90012502
sucrose was just shilling her FP ship and making it easier for bubbline to happen dawg
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>>90012429
She knew about his crush wayyyyy early on and even wanted to stay young with him until lemongrab came and fucked shit up, that's a real tight level of closeness there

didn't help that the 800 year old thing was added around S4-5

im a fubblegag and WWM shoulda been the end of it but somehow it wasn't. loli pb had potential to be something good then they shit all over her aged down form and their relationship
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>>90012502
Well, I did say "feminist" not "female." A lot of males tend to overcompensate for their own penises.
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>>90012072
That's pretty vague mate. I won't dismiss it if you can provide a specific example. I'm willing to accept that PB is kind of a bitch, in fact I already think she is a little, but I'm not seeing this narrative that is being pushed that PB doesn't give two shits about Finn.
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>>90012533
>FP was brought into the mix just so Sugar could break up FinnxPB
>FP bit the dust anyways after she left
what a cruel cruel world
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>>90012561
FP was ultimately just a plot point for Finn to realize that romance sucks I guess
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>>90012321
IS THIS A HIT PIECE ON TRUMP?
UR FAKE NEWS
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>watched the show up until flame princess then dropped it
>reading you fags talk about later seasons.
I'm glad I dodged that bullet. If only it wasn't a mess.
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>>90012641
It's a mess but it's sort of a endearingly retarded mess that still does good stuff

Plus I can always go to fanfics that handle the plotpoints better than the show did
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>>89987140
>NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO SEX.
Finn is. I'll fight you whore. Maybe not with the main three but that's only because they suck and he's better than that. I'll buy him someone nice, gotta protect my sonfu.
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>>90012533

>fired her best boarder for aggressively trying to shoehorn in a lesbian ship
>le "she just wants everything to be GAY" meme
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>>90012543
Like it was mentioned earlier its not consistent, but its still there dude. They have her totally disregard his efforts of interacting with her in a friend like capacity, then have Pajama Wars where she's actually pretty nice, then invalidate it all with their interaction in following episodes where she's back to being a bitch
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>>90012662
It sounds like I wouldn't enjoy it.
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>>90012539
why be a feminist male? is this about reeling in feminist chicks?
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>>90012700
Probably, I totally get why people are annoyed by the shit AT pulls. It expects its audience to put up with too much bullshit.

I just like it too much.
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>>90012682

difference between entitled and deserving, anon.

finn deserves a compatible partner who respects him. doesn't mean the world owes him one.
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>>90012721
I wouldn't be the one to ask. But I imagine so.
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>>90012695
They didn't stick with the memo. Shot their load off early and got the boot for it

>>90012731
in this fictitious world it does i'll fucking scrap if you wanna scrap mate
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>>90012695
I still think RS was legitimately behind Bubbline though, I mean she seems to be the one who created the relationship almost entirely from scratch. It's not just that it was gay but it seemed to be something she was behind.

Still so weird she never did anymore episodes with those two before she left. Did the staff just reign her in because of all the drama surrounding What Was Missing? If so that's a shame because her feisty, combative Bubbline was way more interesting than this nauseating shit the show has now.
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>>90012533
She shipped Fubble before that though. I think she saw they weren't going to be a good couple anymore and took it upon herself to cook up somebody better for him. she didn't know it would end like this. she didn't know.
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>>90012463

Yeah, but immortality is stupid and she still seems to function at the same level as her physical age, albeit with some added wisdom. Same goes for Marcy. Either way, my point stands.

>>90012535

Loli PB was just a half-assed attempt to let the main character get the girl that they gave up on after realizing it was stupid.
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>>90012779
>She shipped Fubble before that though
sauce

>I think she saw they weren't going to be a good couple anymore and took it upon herself to cook up somebody better for him.
Yeah cause they obviously can't follow through with romance with Finn you know the >GRASSED shitposts are coming if the writers ONCE AGAIN give Finn the short end of the stick
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>>90012828
She made stuff like Mortal Folly and The Real You where PB seemed pretty into Finny-boi
It was probably her who came up with the idea that PB knitted Finn a crappy sweater just because she was so concerned about his safety
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>>90012820
>Loli PB was just a half-assed attempt to let the main character get the girl that they gave up on after realizing it was stupid.
So was FP
So was Canyon
So was Roselinen
So was the Mona Lisa
and so will be Huntress Wizard in a couple months
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>>90012429
>It's like the kid you used to babysit trying to make a move on you
except that kid is in a knight/princess relationship with you and lives to serve you. there is a degree of entitlement to that. if PB's not into that quasi-agreement anymore she needs to be clear so he can fuck off.
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>>89986594
Especially if you're already doing it with his dog-friend.
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>>90012867
>and so will be Huntress Wizard in a couple months
If they do this, I swear I will fucking riot.

Twitter nor tumblr will not be able contain my impotent shipping rage.
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>>90012682
>gotta protect my sonfu
Hey I've finally been able to put into words how I feel about Finn. It's not like he's my husbandu because I'm not really attracted to him or anything but I still want the best for him and for him to be content. He's my boy who I want to see succeed and be happy.

I think the reason Dad's Dungeon is my favorite episode ever is because it so perfectly handles Finn getting knocked into the dirt and then rising stronger afterward. Sometimes the current show forgets about the "rise stronger afterward" part of that equation.
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>>90012697
Yeah, and I want examples of PB being a bitch to Finn.
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>>90012900
Its pretty clear that Finn will never fuck off though.
He's said that he was done with PB in the past, but he always come back to her.
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>>90012422

They were wasted because of all that prismo stuff, cutting in on Ice Finn.
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>>90012867
All those are different though.

Canyon is just 4channer's wish fulfillment, FP was the first real relationship that goes sour, Roselinen was a wet dream, Huntress Wizard was the relationship that never gets off the ground to show Finn can handle being rejected, and Mona Lisa is a hilariously silly idea that isn't canon.
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>>90012916
If you also fap to him regularly is he still my sonfu?

>>90012937
Finn's practically full of pent up emotions at this point. Watching PB and Marcy will always sting his heart in the inside.
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>>89991902
i can't believe someone actually credited this
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>>90012925
The proof is in the pudding.

Not spoon feeding your ass.

You're already whipped in that regard.

May as well make like a banana and split, before you get creamed.
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>>90012967
Are you fapping specifically for him? Like the parts of his body? Then you might have some issues, I don't want to have to call child protective services so please sort those out with your son.

I like Finn porn just because, beyond it being hot if well drawn and all that, it's nice seeing him be happy. Happy Finn porn is 2pure for this world. Especially after how the show treated him.
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>>90012925
>Saved PB's ass dozens of times and is supposedly on friendly terms
>PB removes Finns arm from her shoulder when he puts them around her casually

It was one of the newer seasons and had a real negative vibe too it.
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>>90012937
>He's said that he was done with PB in the past,
wasn't that just the one time that was practically retconned though?

the way he went crawling back to Bubblegum after that was so depressing. I get that they were deliberately trying to make Finn seem pathetic but they did their job too well.
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>>90012861
how could she build me up to tear me down

>>90012861
>I don't want to have to call child protective services so please sort those out with your son.
>son

>I like Finn porn just because, beyond it being hot if well drawn and all that, it's nice seeing him be happy. Happy Finn porn is 2pure for this world. Especially after how the show treated him.
Yeah I guess that's the main reason I fap to him besides that monster packing in his pants
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>>90013071
He's done it atleast 2 times iirc

First one was Burning Low, second was when PB was removed from her throne for wrongfully imprisoning her subjects
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>>89992253
Unless you can show me a specific moment where they blatantly admit to that, it's still just a non-canon interpretation. I'll take it for what the characters, the show, and the creators all say: The are friends.
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>>90013142
I don't think I remember that second one, is it from the new seasons or old ones?
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>>90013174
It was from the more recent season, it was a short arc where the King of Ooo temporarily takes the Candy Kingdom after everyone is not happy when PB's totalitarian behavior. Even Finn though she was going too far, but he ended up running back to her for help as soon a problem happened
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>>90010074
There's one thing I appreciate about this scene. When PB holds her hand on his shoulder, he doesn't seem to feel anything about that. He's chill. It shows that he has grown in a way, but yeah, he still has feelings for her because he always comes back for some reason.

The endgame of their relationship is either Finn making a confession that he always loved her before she dies or something, or he just says that he's grateful for everything she did for him and treats her like a older sister figure.

Or it just ends without any resolution, because writers actually didnt care about it at all.
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>>89986639
I fucking hate the whole Fionna thing.
>Girl Finn: Bubblegum and vamp wanna fuck her
>Guy Finn: Neither of them wanna fuck him
Feminism: Ruining everything
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>>90013225
oh I think that's Hot Diggity Doom or whatever that was called. haven't seen that one in a while.

it sounds like he just gave some slight criticism of how she was acting though, he does that sometimes but I don't see it as a sign that he's fed up with her or anything like that.
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>>89992116
Why is the show so fucking obsessed with Finn losing an arm?
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>>90013257
The show gave them self a great excuse with the fact that it's fanfiction. Fionna can have the best life ever because it isn't real while Finn's life sucks because everyone knows real life is nothing but a parade of misery.
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>>90012937
She's never clearly told him she will never ever date him. On purpose, I have to assume.
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>>90013319
Because Finn imagined it one time then they turned it into a big cosmic prophecy where he always losses it because of reasons.
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>>90013321
You forgot the part where the whole AT is just fiction, so there's no real reason to make protagonist's life hell
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>>90013327
I feel like even PB doesn't think that lowly of him, feel like she's made it pretty clear that it isn't happening. You are right but I think she considers him smart enough to realize that himself.

As to why he still serves her even knowing this well, habit is a hard thing to break. And there's always the chance that the impossible happens and she decides to suck his dick for no reason. Finn's playing the long game.
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>>90013225
>>90013229
He's always gonna have those feelings locked up inside of him for both PB and FP. Locked up in the vault and midly tormenting him every once in a while.

>>90013327
Which opens up the discussion of why didn;t she kindly tell him no since she possibly had a relationship with Marceline and had one with her own creation Mr. Creampuff.

Seriously she created Mr. Creampuff to date but gives the finger just in time to Finn so he couldn't get in her pants. How do you think Marceline reacted to that?
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>>90013025
>I like Finn porn just because, beyond it being hot if well drawn and all that, it's nice seeing him be happy.
my negro. I don't always fap, sometimes I just smile. AT really makes it seem like finn getting laid would be the worst thing in the world and that's just sad.
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>>90013372
Hard times build character? That's what the show's trying to do and even if they aren't executing it that well I don't fault them for trying.
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Awww. I'm sorry, Finn. But look, man. Lemme share with you a little secret on how to win the heart of a princess. It's not easy, but ya have to be persistent. You might have to defeat a demon lord, and warp through several worlds.
[As he speaks, BMO's video game shows the actions being carried out.]
But once you do, you walk up the wizard stairs, and produce your magic key you got in a water world and unlock the chamber door. Then, walk right up to the princess, and give her a smooch.
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>>90013506
>but ya have to be persistent
bad advice jake. bad advice

at least for now it is
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>>90013506
I never realized how much more of a dog this Jake looks compared to regular Jake.

Does Jake in the regular universe have horrifying looking limbs and eyes? Has he been a horrific monster this whole time even when he isn't stretching and the audience just never realized?
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>>90013358
Did you ever wonder what happened to Finn's arm in the pillow world? Considering that the only sharp thing there was his own sword, did he just lop it off one day for the hell of it?
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>>90013543
It's not bad, you can actually get anyone you want if you are persistent, it's a psychological effect that I know little about. But it exists as far as I know.
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>>89985765

>several episodes

>out of a massive, long-running series.

Oh, boo hoo.
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>>90003552
Its because she has trust issues and is practically immortal. She builds walls to keep out others. She is basically inverse lemongrab
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>>90013476
Even if the show ends with some bullshit like Finn going
>You know what guys, I realized that I don't even need another person to be happy, all I needed was to accept myself for who I am!
Or some stupid shit, because they don't like the idea of Finn having a happy relationship but still want to put a positive spin on it, there's no way in hell he doesn't eventually get the fuck away from Jake actively preventing him from losing his purity and go explore his options, then eventually get a sweetie who sees the value in him and they settle down and have kids who Finn trains to be awesome (like a nicer version of his adoptive dad). Hell, maybe he'll adopt some kids to return the favor his parents did for him or something, that would be very sweet and Finn-like.
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>>90013616
He got it caught in a pillowslide and had to chop it off with his sword to escape. He was in a coyote stuck in a bear trap situation.
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>>89984661
That's not what ruined that show, if anything FP ruined it, or at least ruined S4.

AT was good up until S6 ending (aside from S4), upon which they clearly ran out of ideas because the show's been playing it pretty safe since. Islands was terrible.

2 > 1 > 3 > 5 = 6 > 7 > 4
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>>90013736
>Islands was terrible.
Bitch as a fubblefag who despises bubbline and Finn's treatment I'll fight you. Islands was clearly the best thing to happen to AT in a long while.
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>>90013786
I loved Islands too but he was right that it played things very safe. AT really does love having their big significant plot events only affect the show in one character's development, which they can safely ignore anytime they choose to .
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>>90013786
Nah, AT has has always been very mercurial but it's most interesting feature has consistently been its subtlety. This felt nothing like that, it was very blunt, generic, and the plot was uninteresting. If they're going to come up with boring lore explanations they shouldn't even bother explaining the lore, It doesn't need to be explained. The whole thing just felt very SU tier

Also it was filled with quips, fuck quips and you're retarded for identifying yourself with a cartoon relationship
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>>90010948
Just watched a little of season 1/2 and yes. She hugs him and is cheery and thankful to him. I can actually believe he would want someone like who she used to be. Nu PB was grandfathered into Finn's heart via old PB.
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>>90013736
If Islands was terrible, what do you think of Stakes lol
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>>90013922
Stakes was okay. I would say more but I don't remember it that well actually, I only watched it once. I'm not really a fan of these "miniseries" in general

I'm guessing the series will end with one as well, I feel like that's okay but Islands is just stupid and I wish I never watched it
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>>90013898
fuck you right back anon the feeling's mutual

have a bandit princess flipping you off
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>>90013959
Not to keep ranting but bandit princess was a cringeworthy fucking character, made that episode totally unwatchable
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>>90013736
>>90013825
>>90013942
Your opinions are odd to me but I can respect your reasoning.

I too don't think AT really needs to explain everything since the show worked out just fine without it but shit, if it's gonna go on for like 85 seasons they might as well fucking use them for important shit. And they started the track of actually explaining things a long ass time ago so they might as well keep it up. It's nice that they finally gave Finn some backstory after laying it onto Marceline nonstop for like 4 years. And I found Finn's mom very cute so I'm biased.

>>90013971
I thought so too, she was really boring and had a shitty VA. There's one pretty good porn of Finn raping her though so I'll tolerate her existence for that reason.
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>>90013996
Best mom/10

>There's one pretty good porn of Finn raping her though so I'll tolerate her existence for that reason.
Now all we need is him laying into the other gals on the show

>>90013476
>>90013025
post links to best finn image lads
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Remember guys that Bubblegum is going to get her miniseries aswell. Can't wait for lesbian pandering to its fullest
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>>90014075
I'll grin and bear it since Islands was better than I could reasonably hope for but geez it's so hard to fucking care about her at this point. I think the lesbians will be the least of its problems.

It's either gonna be another backstory dish, which is who gives a shit, or it's gonna be more
>Abloobloobloo I just want to protect my people but by doing that I was a legitimately terrible person like remember that time I literally almost killed the entire fire kingdom but I'm doing it for good reasons so the show portrays me in a positive light and I'm trying REALLY HARD GUYS abloobloobloo"

How can they make a character that should be so fascinating so boring? Is it because they never go anywhere with her? Old PB was way more fun to watch even though she had like a quarter of the depth of modern Bubblegum.

Well I'll be happy if Finn and Jake get to do some stuff in it.
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>>90013996
>And they started the track of actually explaining things a long ass time ago

Not really, I have no problem with explicit depiction of lore events, like in Evergreen, or some bits of character backstory, like in the simon and marcy episodes, But Islands basically sat us down and explained every mystery regarding the humans, susan, and finn's family from beginning to end. And it wasn't even an interesting explanation imo. AT has never really done that outside of stakes, but stakes didn't really solve any mysteries/overexplain any lore, it just kind of told us a bit of marceline's backstory
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>>90014177
Stakes was so shitty i stopped watching AT for a while.
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>>90010971

What's wrong with lesbos?
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>>90014210
I didn't mind it. i don't remember all of it but I liked the song at the end. And the bubbline stuff doesn't trigger me
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>>90014177
I thought it was pretty cookie cutter stuff too but I still liked it well enough. Now that I think about it though they probably could have left more to the imagination.

Am I the only one who would have been just fine if Finn's human parents were just never even brought up? Or at least if they were the show implied that they just died in a hole somewhere and left Finn? The whole thing of
>Finn's dad is a cosmic space criminal and his mom is the leader of the last bastion of humanity on the planet!
Sort of reeks of "They have to be special because they're Finn's parents and the protagonist has to have special parents or else no one gives a shit" or something.

I would have had mad respect if they were just brutally realistic and Finn's parents were just dead, that's the end of it. But Islands' stuff was alright too.
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>>90014075
If anyone should get a miniseries next, it should be fucking Jake.
Fuck PB.
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>>90014266
I actually loved the way they handled Finn's dad prior to Islands. His appearance was obviously sort of a revelation and a pivotal moment but then his depiction was not at all what I was expecting. And he never took up an excessive amount of plot focus

Islands was just SU. I literally thought I was watching SU when I saw the backstory segment about Finn's mom and dad. There's no explanation for how Finn's dad went from this boring "irresponsible but with a heart of gold" guy to a mentally ill criminal. Finn's mom is just a boring ass character and it's you said, why does she have to be pretty and important and the nicest person ever.
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>>90013664
They might do all that stuff in the very last episode. But the message of that is worse.
>Hey guys, I realized I'll only find love if I stop looking for it!

because that totally works irl. Jake was right to begin with, you have to work for that princess or you will be alone.
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>>90014373
>Disrespecting Minerva
These opinions make me upset, but you have a different opinion and that's okay.
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>>90014373
She was pretty cheap and easy but at least they put in the whole "was sort of a crazy control freak and was willing to murder everyone on the island to keep them safe" aspect.
Maybe I'm just easy to please because nice moms are nice and it was sweet that Finn got what he was looking for, in a way.

And with Martin I sort of liked it. The original plot of him being Finn's deadbeat dad still works, but adding some more context (while not necessary) worked out fine. I feel like the way we don't know how he went from that state is actually good, it leaves room for your imagination.

Plus the mixture of him being a shifty conman before, likely having some mental problems from that bonk, and being separated from his family for X number of years lets me easily believe that he turned into a piece of shit even if he was decent beforehand.
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>>90014329
PB probably dies soon so I dont mind her being in the center of attention, although it will be painful to watch with Marceline involved.
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>>90014528
>implying they are going to follow through with PB's croak dream
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>>90014528
>PB probably dies soon

What makes you say that?
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>>90014601
lesbians always get killed off in TV shows
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>>90014159
I wonder why they are afraid to make her obviously evil? This is one case where muh moral ambiguity ruined a character.

If the miniseries if just more making excuses for her I'm flipping tables.
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>>90014624
They think her being morally ambiguous is just adding oh so much depth to her. I bet they were still jerking off over the juxtaposition of the seemingly cute pink princess being shady and immoral until they finished writing the show.

They backpedaled so hard it was hilarious. So glad they built up PB as being a shady as fuck customer for like two years just so FP could yell at her and then have PB become boringly nice. Because that's a satisfying arc right.
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>>90014624
PB is supposed to be an Oboama-esque leader. Working in the interest of the people, but knows many things and keeps secrets, doesn't conform to ideology or the will of the people, etc. KoO was trump. the people elected a populist phony demagogue because they were afraid of PB and fed up with her BS. I don't agree with that characterization but that's probably how the writers see it.
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>>90014596
I am not even talking about that, she is similar to Glob and you know what happened to him. The same can easily happen to her and that would also explain why candy kingdom is in ruin in the distant future.

I can see her survive till the end if the finale is light hearted, they will all dance and sing and Finn goes on another adventure, fin.
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>>90014624
The way they handle PB is weird because she is morally ambiguous but even so I always get the feeling that the show desperately wants me to take her side every single time. What's the point of that if you're gonna force the audience to like her anyway and not decide for themselves?
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>>90014266
>I would have had mad respect if they were just brutally realistic and Finn's parents were just dead
This was implicitly true for a long long time, so I give them credit for that. Finn didn't really care about humans until somebody decided he should.

But at some point the writers' morals changed and they decided biological parents are more important than the family who raised you.
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>>90014738
Well the issue of taking their side is different from the issue of them being morally ambiguous

Think of mafia movies, you probably don't agree with the gangster's ethics but you're still gonna take their side over the FBI or whatever, because the writing sets them up to be a relatable character
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>>90014752
>they decided biological parents are more important than the family who raised you.
I can't really agree with that because Finn always considers his doggie parents to be his parent parents. It's a little detail I immensely appreciate, even in that one part of Islands Finn says to Jake that mom and dad are still mom and dad but he was only going there to get some answers.

Now the way the show frames this doesn't really work, because there is a metric fuckton more focus on Martin and Minerva than there ever was on Joshua and Margaret, but the important thing is how Finn feels about them.

Goddammit AT is gonna end without ever giving me a dog family backstory episode, I'm so fucking mad. At least they won't ruin my beautiful fantasies.
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Best and worst episode from each season?

S1: Rainy Day Daydream; Donny
S2: Belly of the Beast; To Cut A Woman's Hair
S3: What Was Missing; Incendium
S4: Sons of Mars; a lot I hate S4
S5: Puhoy; The RedThrone
S6: Food Chain; Water Park Prank
S7: The Music Hole; Varmints
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We are actually in a good spot right now. There's 32 episodes left, where everything can happen, it's like bliss. Of course everything can end in a really shitty way but now we can dream of whatever we want, because we don't know what will happen.

It's better to enjoy it to the full, we are not that far from the finale.
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>>90014819
> a dog family backstory episode
I imagine it's too complicated to cover because of the weird way Finn and Jake age relative to each other. And the huge issue that they never explained how Joshua and Margaret even died, I mean jesus christ that's kind of important.

I want a fan comic for these things. The domestic situation of Finn living with an overprotective dog mother seems so sweet. Why can't I see a little child with not quite so many missing teeth, still suckling from his mamma who's shorter than he is?
>Margie if you don't wean that thing you're gonna get what's comin to ya

Oh wait I forgot. baby Finn apparently had the power to survive off breadsticks and seawater.
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>>90015049
>There's 32 episodes left

Even though I haven't really enjoyed this show since like 2012, I still feel like my mom is dying
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>>90015001
Huh, this sounds fun. You got interesting tastes, I like Donny a lot just for the moral message at the end.
Why do you hate 4 dude?

Best on left worst on right
>1- Evicted/Gut Grinder
>2- Mortal Folly/Loyalty to the King
>3- Dad's Dungeon/The Monster
>4- Beyond This Earthly Realm/Hug Wolf
>5- All the Little People/Red Throne
>6- Evergreen/Chips and Ice Cream
>7- Flute Spell/Broke His Crown

It's REALLY hard for me to pick from the first 3 seasons because they're so densely packed with episodes that I consider to be pretty good at the worst.
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>>90015050
Comics coverage would be really nice. There was one very cute story from years ago about Billy's adventures doing something and in the end it was a book Joshua was reading to baby Finn and Jake, real nice. It was one of those end stories in the main line issues I think.

It seems like such a wacky sitcom. You have the freaking lunatic macho dad trying to teach his children how to use swords before they can even walk and a poor worrywart mother who probably had a heart attack every other day, add in one kid with magic powers and one who's a different species and develops a lot slower and it's a regular riot. And Jermaine's there too!

People just don't have any taste to appreciate the best bits of AT canon, it's all lesbians this and sad backstory that.
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>>90015121
I don't even dislike Donny I just didn't know what to put and that's the one I remembered the least. I feel like S1-2 are very densely packed with good, 3 is where it starts to slip up a little and include some stuff I didn't like. 4 had some fantastic episodes but it also had stuff I just hated and stuff that didn't resemble the reason I started watching AT in anyway. Namely the FP/love triangle stuff I didn't like, and it just has some terrible episodes like Web Weirdos.

Also just worth mentioning, 3 of the ones you picked (DD, All the little people, and Evergreen) are probably my second favorite episodes from those seasons
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If PB and Marceline werent remade into lesbians, how much would it change their characters? Would PB be more friendly towards Finn? Would Marceline hang out more with Finn?
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>>90015341
It wouldn't change anything, just those small scenes wouldn't be there
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>>90015209
Solid opinions you got there.
I think season 3 is still very strong, episodes on the weaker spectrum is stuff like The Monster and From Bad to Worse. I think I'm an anomaly because I even like stuff like Paper Pete and Apple Thief which seem quite unpopular. And it had some really high peaks.

Season 4 I thought was still good, but I see how it wouldn't be a person's cup of tea. The show started to take itself a lot more seriously, and the FP drama did verge into legitimate tween angst boring shit. I've always thought Web Weirdos was just mediocre at worst.

Favorite episodes are hard for me because all I know for true is that DD is the elder god on high tier, and then there's like 30 other episodes that could all easily fit into the top tier. I could easily switch some of my picks for episodes like Death in Bloom or Hitman or Gotcha or Little Brother. There's lots of very good episodes in this show dawg.
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>>90015365
Stakes wouldn't exist, and neither would episodes like Sky Witch. Thats alot more than small scenes.
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>>90015420
Stakes should still exist, even if they aren't in a romantic relationship pretty sure they would still be friends and it's not like Marceline can go to anyone else to become de-vampireized.
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>>90015401
Stakes would definitely still exist, just those scenes would be removed
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>>90015341
Both of them were done paying attention to Finn long before they became lesbians.
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>>90015401
The reason overall favorite episodes are hard for me is because of how spontaneous and diverse this show has become. Like how do I compare Dungeon to Food Chain. So I asked the season thing instead.
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>>90015479
Not really, What Was Missing was the first lesbian episode and before that all characters were on good terms.

Hell, when I think about if Wizard Battle was to be made today, PB would slap Finn and made him depressed by some shittalk about him cheating and being "silly".
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>>90015556
>What Was Missing was the first lesbian episode

That wasn't a lesbian episode, that was the episode that made looneys think they were lesbians
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>>90015525
This is true, and it's gonna make it really goddamn hard for me to make my huge ass list of my top 50 favorite AT episodes once this show ends. Too many really good and also pretty shitty episodes to compare.
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>>90015599
It's essentially been retconned into objectively bein a lesbian episode at this point.
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>>90015599
>In August 2014, Marceline's voice actress Olivia Olson told a crowd of fans gathered at a Barnes & Noble book signing from The Adventure Time Encyclopedia, that, according to Ward, Marceline and Princess Bubblegum had dated in the past, but that because the series airs in some areas where homosexual relationships are illegal, the show has not been able to officially make clear the relationship in the series itself.[19][20] August 8, the day the panel footage was uploaded to YouTube, Olson Tweeted she liked to make things up at panels and told her followers they all take her stories too seriously.[21]

It's obvious it was.
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>>90012992
In other words, you can't. I have provided evidence, you have used ad hominem attacks. I win this argument by default.
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>>90013063
I could delve more into my opinions on this, but it's already been said by others. You are free to your interpretation. Regardless, this is all I've seen thus far to support that PB supposedly hates Finn. I'm still not seeing it when there are plenty of moments that would point to the contrary.
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>>90012925
>>90015958
Remember when some random dude (Braco) decided that he was in love with her, so she made a robot copy of herself for him yo be with? Why didn't she do that for Finn?
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>>90016020
Because that would be really creepy and weird. Also it's a kid's show.
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>>90016020
I always thought she respected Finn more than that (a hilarious as that sounds).

She gave Braco that bot out of pity so that he could fuck it in bliss until he died, she doesn't want that end for Finn and he probably wouldn't want it either. He wanted/wants PB, not a cheap imitation.

Even if he got it he would probably realize that it's not doing him any good even if it's pleasurable and comforting, like the dungeon train episode but with more robot fucking.
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>>90016062
A kid's show where she makes sexbots for people who want her?

I mean I get your point that it'd be more taboo for Finn, but the writers are pussies for bringing that creepy idea into the show and then not doing what's logical.

At the very least I want to see if Finn would be attracted to it or horrified.
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>>90015958
There was no argument. You are demanding evidence for something that is plain view, and have already postulated a standoffish position which will make any efforts I made pointless, and I stopped giving a fuck.
You are pathetic, go to bed little guy. You'll win next time im sure lol
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>>90016142
I hope you are at least somewhat aware of your rampant hypocrisy.

>You are demanding evidence for something that is plain view
So obvious, yet you haven't presented a single example. I am more willing to accept evidence than you realise, but since you aren't interested in having an actual discussion, there's no point.
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>>89987318
>Anything besides Grass Finn stealing her away. PLEASE.

Doubt they're going to do that. They knew that the entire FP fiasco caused backlash.

But if they do this only to make Finn suffer even more, then I'm done with the series.
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>>90016200
Hmm lets see.
You're literally the only one who claims to not see PB's harsh treatment of Finn and before anyone even actually began engage with you responded with:
>is that all you got?
Implying that you already made up in your mind that nothing we could provide is good enough, so its waste of time bothering to gather evidence of something most people have observed from simply watching the show and is absolutely a waste of time.
You even admitted earlier that you think PB is a bitch, but you are still questioning wither or not she mistreats Finn and that were just making it all up...?
Do you even know what you are trying to even debate anymore or are you just being obtuse out of anger simply because your pink waifu is so unliked?
>rampant hypocrisy
oh the irony
You are boring me now, but thanks for the (you)'s little guy. ciao'
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>>90016099
>He wanted/wants PB, not a cheap imitation.
I bet you a dollar he'd lose control and fall in love with it. maybe it would help him realize his attraction to PB was always shallow. she's so far above him intellectually, to him she's just a big wad of pink flesh that says smart stuff he doesn't understand.
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>>90016290
Hey, as long as you found someway to feel superior, that's all that matters right?
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>>90015086
You must be very very young.
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>>90011743
Huh, would be worth a shot, I guess.
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