Good lord

CN does know their ratings are tanking hard, right?

If I may ask, why does CN promotes Teen Titans GO! so much? In past years, they used to antagonize DC cartoons.

What's My Knight and Me?

Why do they even bother getting new shows?

Also, wow, they just completely forgot about Mighty Magiswords after promoting the hell out of it

>>89970987
Why it's your new favorite show ofcourse

>>89971113
And look, how strange, the incessant threads on /co/ stopped too. It's like... it was never popular.

>>89970931
the fuck is the Cat with the low body fat?

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>>89970931
>Mighty Magiswords flopping so hard

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>89970931
Calling it rfn Magiswords will have either one season, or half-finished second season.

>>89971281
A classic children's book

>>89971286
I'm pretty sure it's the cheapest show out there. The only thing about it is that there's only one season. Just wait until season 3, you'll see it fill up that shit ass schedule.

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Why not just rename CN TTG?

Hell, why not remove all the cartoons and just air TTG?

I'm just glad nuPPG is getting no airtime

Too bad about Magiswords, I really like those designs

>>89970931
O fucking kay. Cartoon Network needs to greenlight some new shows ASAP. This shit is ridiculous.

>>89971281
/fit/ new favorite show

Ah do this is what the robot meant by Party Friday Party

>>89970987
Because kids love it.
There might've been some kind of burn-out regarding DC action shows sometime ago (maybe DC Nation was involved), but I don't know for sure.

>>89971518
At what cost? AT WHAT FUCKING COST?!

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I've done the fucking math, Spongebob is airing less than TTG.

That is pathetic

>>89970931
My Knight and Me is brand spankin new for their channel and they're already airing it at a time when nobody is watching for barely any time at all? Why bother even putting new shows on the channel when all they're going to do is shove it into a corner for more TTG?

>>89971583
>O fucking kay. Cartoon Network needs to greenlight some new shows ASAP.
But they did

However they were eaten by the TTG monster

>>89970931
>They have 21 shows they could air.
>Prefers to show the same couple shows in different sized clumps.

The selectoion of shows they have aren't exactly all great or anything, but at least have some fucking variety!

It feels good to be a DC fan.

>>89971862
Why would a DC fan like TTG?

>>89971855
>loudfag shoves his show into this
for what purpose

>>89971862
Get cancer

>>89971884
Don't you know, anon?
Nowadays, liking TTG means you're a fan of DC without having to read/watch anything else and you can tell people to go to hell for thinking differently!
It's your new favourite show, after all.

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WHEN I SAY FRIDAY YOU SAY PARTY

FRIDAY

>>89971935
KILL ME

>>89971911
He's got a point though

>>89970931
>that one 15 minute slot for SU
th-thanks CN

>>89971078
It's a CG animated show about a kid going through page/squire school and his dad who's a knight (but not a very good one? idk I've only seen one or two episodes) and they defend the kingdom from monsters with the tomboy princess. It's alright.

>>89971911
You've clearly forgotten what kind of thread that image was originally made in

>>89970931
I'm glad Gumball is still getting some air time since I do really like that show, but holy shit, literally everything else except TTG is getting completely FUCKED

>>89970931

There are many ways to interpret this and none of them are good.

None of them

There's no silver lining here.

>>89970931

>Doctor Seuss: The Cat with the Low Body Fat

What the fuck...

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>>89970931
Good grief don't they still have the archive rights to all the old MGM/UA/Hanna-Barberra toons? They could stand to have a random block somewhere in there of something that ISN'T TTG or a goddamn movie
>Happy Feet Two
Oh fuck right off

>>89972055
How about "At least Gumball is CN's second most important show"?

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>>89972150
They do still have the archive and don't use it, but at least they still have Boomerang

Oh wait, Boomerang isn't used for that either anymore

>NBA All-Star Jam
WEST CONFERENCE GO!

>>89970931
Too bad for Mighty Magiswords, I want to bang the purple haired slut.

>>89970931
You can bitch about TTG all you want with this, but if it wasnt TTG it'd just be another show doing the exact same thing

Lets just be glad its not We Bare Bears

>>89971884
sometimes its fun to watch serious characters giggle and do literally nothing of value

>>89972174
What an honor

>>89972150
Yes, Turner has reportedly the largest archive of animation in the entire industry. Even more on those rare occasions when Warner Bros plays nice and lets them borrow some shows.
But despite having two whole networks, they don't even use 0.001% of it.

>>89972364
Is this practice even actually good for business, or is this just something executives convince themselves will work?

>>89972516
Its probably just to fill up the space with shows kids wanna watch, or shows you could just sit your drooler infront of and they'll vacantly watch it

>>89972364
>but if it wasnt TTG it'd just be another show doing the exact same thing
That's not necessarily true

That would only be the case of CN had a long history of doing this like Nick in Spongebob. This is a very recent thing. Before this they would actually show their other cartoons

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>>89970931
>Powerpuff Girls has zero slots

>>89970987
Because it antagonizes DC cartoons. Green Lantern was killed for it.

>>89971286
>>89972661
Yes laugh, why don't you watch some more TTG while laughing?

>>89971583
Look at all the shows they have that aren't even airing. Sonic Boom JUST started the new season too.

>>89972647
Well its obviously a case of there not being that many shows on the channel to begin with, ones that make them money i mean.

Judging by the list, if they cut down on TTG they'd play more Gumball or WBB. They'd still have the exact same problem where newer shows like new SU, JLA and whatever that new short was

So basically

>75% = TTG
>15% = Amazing World of Gumball
>5% = movies
>4.99% = Other shows that aren't the above
>0.01% = shows based on licensed materia (Sonic Boom, Justice League Action, Lego etc.)
Is that correct?

>>89972713
>he actually wants nuPPG
No me gusta.

>>89972150
If self-obsessed animators create a Nu Animation character and its a big hit they would get way more royalties, right?

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>the cat with the low body fat

>>89972713
Actually I too am happy whenever nuPPG has misfortune even if it's at the expense of the network going further to shit

nuPPG dead, but at what cost?
>Cat in the Hat with Low Body Fat
This sounds like a bad SNL skit.

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>>89972782
>>89972997
>Willingly eating shit just to spite other shit
fuck you

>>89973395
>they're glad one show is off
>so they MUST be watching the other show!
No, I just don't have the TV on.

>>89972781
50% TTG
22% Gumball
6% Clarence
6% We Bare Bears
5% My Knight and Me
4% Uncle Grandpa
3% Movies/Specials
3% Tom and Jerry Tales
2% Mighty Magiswords

>>89970931
This is why people cut the cord.

>>89970931
somebody call darkseid

we just found the anti-life equation

>The Spongebob Channel
>The Teen Titans Go Channel
When are networks going to give up and admit broadcast TV is dead? People want to watch shit on demand, not by switching their TV on at a specified time (and having to sit through commercial breaks).

>>89971518
They pushed nuPPG over to Boomerang

>>89973424
Doesn't matter if you watch it or not, being compliant is just as bad.

>>89970931
That one sliver of time for Steven Universe. They're just blatant about it now. I would be fucking ashamed of myself if I was running CN and saw what a shit hack of a job someone did with this time table. There are soooooo many god damned cartoons, but nah, fill it up with just one.

>>89974086
I hope it's because they're having a Gumball themed month.
But who am I shitting, they just want this show dead.

>>89970931
>Literally 1 episode of SU this week
>Absolutely no promotion
>Still the network's second highest ratings

Think CN are mad that their attempts to kill the show aren't working?

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>>89970931
lol cartoon network understands that their targeted audience is kids so they broadcast TTG before 9AM and play the shit out of it 3:15 and up. They just fill in the blank with crap and the very limited WB movies they have. They assume that during that time frame most people would not be even watching that channel and they probably know they are losing alot of money all together with this whole business model they are trying to establish. Its funny though because a bunch of autist and NEETs are willing to watch that channel all day, but i can see why CN is trying not to pander that hard into that territory, cause god knows what happens when an unnatural amount of autist latch onto a certain other mess.
the sad fact is the kids dont care, CN has so much competition now then it did 10 years ago, not just in cartoons but with everything, alot of families i know dont even have cable just netflix and stream services. Its sad to see CN face its own little real life blackmirror episode, they either have to catch up or they will be out of the game. i just want to see something new.

>>89973599
>Forgetting The No Cartoons On Our Main Channel

>>89970931
jfc, we're about to enter a new dark age

Is any network actually supporting the creation of decent cartoons right now?

>>89974647
CN is slowly waiting to kill SU and zombify Gumball.
Nickelodeon has found its new cash cow in The Bland House.
Disney has nothing noteworthy anymore save for Star vs.
So no.

>>89974554
The strangest thing is that TTG doesn't really get that much better ratings than its competition on the channel. It typically pulls around 100k more than SU at best, sometimes swapping places with it for #2, and after that it's only around 150k-200k ahead of the other big shows on the network. Reruns cost the same to run as any other show and really don't do better than other reruns when CN actually airs them, so it's not like it's leaps and bounds the most-watched show on the network.

I am just stupefied that TTG is still going.

I thought for sure it would have been cancelled after the second season.

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>>89974732
>Shitting on TLH
You silly willy

TTG is the end of CN

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>>89971884
It's full of DC jokes, the creators clearly love comics. Poking fun at something doesn't mean you're """disrespecting""" it or whatever

>>89972150
CN has the largest animation archive. They could show hundreds of different shows. Instead they show TTG all day

>>89974835
What would WB do if CN bit the dust? Where would they put all their DC cartoons and Scooby-Doo reboots?

>>89974590
no, anon.
we are our own real life black mirror episode.

CN is just one of those completely fucked parts of our world that tips you off that we are in another universe where everything is bleak and hopeless.

Another example being all the anons in this thread turning this discussion into a dick wagging contest of "my show is better than yours" rather than facing the reality that there is no viable outlet for ANY show, good or bad, to find an audience on any of these networks. Especially, in this particular case, Cartoon Network. They've set the bar for their shows so low that re-launching their push for live-action shows would actually be a welcome improvement at this point.

The network deserves to fail and needs to be dissolved in the same manner as The Hub.

>>89971911
Loudfags like complaining about other shows more than they like The Loud House.

>>89974879
>What would WB do if CN bit the dust? Where would they put all their DC cartoons and Scooby-Doo reboots?
CW-Kids Network. WB's version of The Hub.

>>89974896
>The network deserves to fail and needs to be dissolved in the same manner as The Hub.
This would basically mean killing cartoons unless a miracle happens in the meanwhile.

TTG isn't even that far above their other shows anymore, and that's on premieres, not reruns. How is it that they don't even consider giving other shows a chance?

>>89974931
So like a "Kids WB 2.0"?

I'd be cool with that. We just have to get CN out of the picture.

Who cares? Who still watches television? Most people get their shit from the internet and not television networks that have a ton of programming they could show but won't.

Remember about a year ago when CN wasn't communicating with any of its content creators, and the staffs of some shows even outright complained about it? Stuff like how UG only found out it was cancelled through a third-party article rather than CN telling them about it?

Combine that with how CN is treating its shows, and I'm actually starting to think that there's some real corporate fuckery going on. Infighting, executive meddling, whatever, something's not right.

>>89975046
Because the shows that don't get aired get cancelled (for obvious reasons), and then you don't get to watch them online either.

>>89975078
Networks will kill off the good shows anyway and keep the good ones until they become fucking terrible

Was Johnny Test shown as much as TTG?

>>89975046
>It becomes the new standard for companies to just post their own shows on Youtube.

Would this be okay?

>>89975065

CN has been a shithouse for going on 10 years now.

How is this anything new?

I literally blame Aqua Teen Hunger Force for the current state of CN.

>>89970931
CN means chaotic neutral. Now you know.

>>89975139
If they did that it wouldn't be free because network CEOs are a bunch of greedy kikes

>>89970987
Kids like it. It's funny and colorful and doesn't require a whole lot of thought emotional investment.

Just because a show is acclaimed by teens and adults doesn't mean it's hugely popular with the target audience. Shit like steven universe would have bored me out of my skull as a kid

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>the cat with the low body fat

>>89975156
>I literally blame Aqua Teen Hunger Force for the current state of CN.
Wait, what?

>>89970931
Why do they have hour+ long blocks for each show?

I remember back when I watched CN all day long as a child, you had something different every half hour. If they had something on for an entire hour, it was considered a Special. They also had like 20 different shows going on each day.

>>89975304
Boston bomb scare

>>89975304
Probably referring to the Boston bomb scare incident, which definitely correlated with the first decline in the network.

>>89975305
Autistic children enjoy repetition, and only autists still watch tv

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>>89970931
>he thinks this is bad
>he doesn't know this is actually an improvement

>>89975338
So aside from TTG, why Gumball? My understanding is that it doesn't get phenomenal ratings or anything, is it something to do with the production company?

>>89975338
This makes me wanna cry

>>89975373
Gumball usually alternates with Steven Universe as the second best-rated show on the channel. The ratings aren't phenomenal for any of their shows.

>>89975324
No, I mean, do they only have like 5 shows in total to air? wtf?

>>89975304
>>89975312
>>89975319

Yup.

The bomb scare caused CN's long-time President/CEO to resign. The guy who had fostered the classic shows and time slots it was known for.

Instead of creating a smooth transition, this caused a massive clusterfuck of people jockeying for power within the network.

>>89975442
I don't know own why they're so against airing their old shows, it seems like a no brainier since they own all the rights and it would cost them literally zero dollars

>>89975431
Just looked it up and you're right, I had no idea that the show was that popular. Adventure Time seems to have recovered its ratings too, it's only just a bit behind Gumball and SU now.

Which then begs the question; why only 1 episode of SU and 0 of AT?

>>89975462
>The bomb scare caused CN's long-time President/CEO to resign.
What, why would a bomb scare cause the president of a television network to resign?

>>89975503

Because Adult Swim, and ATHF refused to apologize for the scare. So CN took the brunt of the blame because they were the parent network. Instead of wanting to be known as the guy who implicitly allowed this to occur, he resigned.

>>89975503
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_panic

Come on man this was all over the place back then.

>>89975503
http://www.themarysue.com/the-fall-of-cartoon-network/
>In short, Jim Samples felt responsible for the incident and unfortunately stepped-down from his position. Ever since he left that day, Cartoon Network has never been the same. Stuart Snyder succeeded Samples and, with his new title and power, has been the reason why so much quality programming, like The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, has been canceled. Under his reign of terror, reality show-inspired cartoon shows from Canadian animation studios have emerged including Total Drama Island and 6teen. Just this year, Cartoon Network has come to resemble the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon more and more with its own sports award show called the Hall of Game Awards, hosted by Tony Hawk (excuse me, but wasn’t Tony Hawk more relevant a couple of years back?). Not to mention that Cartoon Network, under Synder’s regime, introduced a number of live-action shows including Destroy Build Destroy (inappropriately and awkwardly hosted by Andrew W.K.), Dude, What Would Happen? (kids acting out their hypothetical questions? Cool?), and Tower Prep (a terrible rip-off of the X-Men’s Xavier Institute).

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>>89970931
It gets the kids watching. When youtube offers two minute blips that barely hold the ever shrinking attention span of people, CN needs SOMETHING that hooks them long enough to watch a couple ads.

>>89971364
Networks HAVE to have a certain amount of cartoons playing a month.

>>89975580
say what you want about fiddy he knows how to make a joke

>>89975540
>>89975547
>>89975564

In an ideal world, Samples would have retried some years after the fact and groomed DeMarco for the position. Giving him de facto control over AS and CN.

>>89970987
Taking a popular show and spamming it across the schedule milking it for all its worth worked for Nickelodeon.

>>89975503
It was post 9/11 and nobody had their heads on straight. The public was howling for blood after being "deceived", and the network overcompensated instead of just going "it's not real you dopes, calm your fucking tits"

>>89975667
But it's actually and provably not working for CN

>>89975668

It really, really did not help that Dave Willis & Matt Maiellaro gave a completely sarcastic and unapologetic press-conference that wasn't just some small thing. Their blase attitude about the whole thing caused the media to whip everyone up into a frenzy.

It was the original, "It's just a prank!" moment.

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>>89974869
References aren't """"jokes""""" you mongoloid

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>>89970931
>A rerun of TTG is being hyped up for primetime this week
>The new justice league cartoon didn't even get adds and was thrown at 7am on saturdays
>Infinite train,12 forever,and Lakewood despite being wanted aren't going to get a series
>Even if they do it will be death slot like 1:00 in the afternoon
>Gumball's getting a season dumped in a month so they don't care about it
>SU barely makes episodes
>WBB is just average
>When they make a new cartoon it is consumed

What would it take to get TTG cancelled?

>>89975338
By the way, they don't have Pokemon anymore. Because fuck having a show based on a popular game franchise during a resurgence in popularity. Sonic Boom will be good enough. Wait. We're not airing that either? Well fuck.

>>89975707
Reminder that they made an entire episode mocking it shortly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yji5VcZicUc

>>89975768

Honestly, the likelihood of that happening is nil.

At this point I think we are seeing the end of CN. The only thing could potentially change this is if Turner were to step in and fire everyone, starting over. Which isn't going to happen, so...

>>89975804
*Shortly after

>>89971926
Steven universe will die this year, you lousy faggot :^)

>>89975631
Or die tryin

>>89975804

It probably saved their careers, because they accepted no fault, they didn't fall on their swords. Which forced someone else to. Unfortunately it caused the entire collapse of the fucking channel that hosted their sub-network.

Right now I am trying to figure out if Williams' Street could somehow have the capital to push out to approach Turner with a new business strategy once TTG begins to give truly diminishing returns and they go back to the "no commercials for three straight episodes!" game plan like in 2014.

>An entire hour and 45 minutes is dedicated to a Scooby Doo movie each weekday
Why?

>>89975788
That is another thing that doesn't quite checks out about CN jewery:
The reason they used to shit on DC cartoons was because they had to share profit with DC.
Now they are shitting on other cartoons in favor of a DC one?

>>89975462
That same president also greenlighted Re-Animated and Out of Jimmy's Head.

>>89975938
Everything's looking increasingly like some kind of weird shit going on up high, nothing makes sense from a purely business standpoint.

>>89975957
Nobody's perfect.

>>89973693
and you think it affects us how?

>>89975957

They weren't even concurrent programs. Besides, are you really going to say that two shows invalidates the entirety of everything else Samples did for CN? That's insane.

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>>89970931
>The Cat with Low Body Fat

>>89970987
It is the perfect show to bring in large amounts of revenue.

>Colorful
>Comedy that appeals to most children
>No real story, so anyone can tune in and understand what is happening without having watched a previous episode (great for new viewers).
>Easy and quick to produce, which also saves them money and resources.
>One of the few CN shows that gets consistent rating on par with their viewing time
>Because of the former reason, CN makes the MOST MAD OF DOSH froms ads that air in between commercials (hence why each TTG block is at least 45 minutes long

It does not take a business man to see that CN has finally found their "Spongebob", in terms of profit, so why would they NOT run it into the ground? (like Nick does with Spongebob, if you still did not understand the similarity)

I would imagine there are a handful of execs at CN that despise SU. It doesn't sell merch and I bet they receive tons of flak daily for its gay themes

>>89976042
>>89975957
Re-Animated was a movie. It was what "Out of Jimmy's Head" spun out of.
I thought it was fine as a stand alone movie when I was younger.

>>89976089

I'll amend what I said then, one DTV and a show that lasted one season doesn't invalidate a guy's career.

>>89976084
IIRC SU merch actually sells really well, it's just that it took them nearly 3 years to really get the merch rolling. I recall reports that those little mini figures had shortages all over the place.

>>89976143
bc the only people who like Steven Universe are all adults with jobs.

Source: am adult with job

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>>89976084
>b-but SU
THIS DOESN'T JUST AFFECT SU YOU FUCK

>>89976166
Outside of Gumball, I don't think anybody cares about any other show on the network honestly

Unless we count [as]

>>89975927
That's actually not a new thing, they've been doing that for years.

>>89976222
>AT
>WBB
>Clarence
>JLA
>RiD
>Nobody cares
Eat shit

>>89976238
Still pisses me off, why just scooby doo? There are many franchises they have that had their own TV movies.

>>89976084

SU has the most obsessive fanbase on CN by a metric mile. They would eat up merch... if any was actually made that wasn't exclusively for small children.

The problem is that I'm pretty sure CN plain doesn't know that SU's core fanbase is young adults and not children. If they started making on-model shelf display figurines or clever T-shirts, they would be rolling in dough.

>>89976429
Hypothetically the ratings from the summer bomb should have told them that. Some of those episodes were #1 in every demographic except for 55+, and they'd regularly get better ratings with teens/young adults than kids.

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>>89975564
>the mary sue

how dare you link to that rag.

>>89976084
>>89976429
So another future win for the Netflix Toon Network?

>>89976429
I think CN knows it and that's why they're trying to kill the show.

>>89976647
Cool your panties. It's not as if there's a smorgasbord of websites that cover the animation industry

>>89970931
In their mind it makes sense. The current trend for many services like Hulu and Netflix is binge watching shows. They figure this will apply to their network as well.

I don't think it does however. Binge watching is something that generally occurs in consumers that are older than the target audience for TTG. Kids get bored of the same thing fast.

>>89976424
But people love Scooby Doo.
Do you know how many movies there are?

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>>89970931
And this is why I spend more time watching Boomerang until Adult Swim starts

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>>89970931
>all those 11 minute shows

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>>89972713
Piss off, NerosQ. You're not fooling anyone with your shit taste.

>>89970931
Jesus

>>89975582
No they don't, networks do have to air a certain amount of E/I content per week, but it doesn't need to be a cartoon (they just used to be because they were cheap), and FCC content regulations don't apply to cable networks anyways.

>>89976926
Boomerang has pretty much the same shit CN has with Flintstones and Smurfs here and there.

>>89972150
Would anyone watch it?

>>89977161
>the same shit CN has with Flintstones and Smurfs here and there.
which, shockingly, makes it the better alternative.

>>89977317
Boomerang has Johnny Test though.

>>89977161
>Even Boomerang was affected by TTG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKqIToJzi6c

>>89970931
This is even worse than the Spongebob binge that Nickelodeon is still recovering from.

>>89975338
Was nickelodeon ever this bad with sponegob?

>>89976865
If this is the case, what would it take for them to wake up?

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This is Brazil's schedule for comparison. From thursday, Feb 16th, to thursday, Feb 23rd.

Cartoon Network U.S. is simply crazy. This isn't normal.

>>89978142
>HUEland has better scheduling than the US
what the fuck

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>>89978142
Steven Universe and Teen Titans GO highlighted for comparison.

>>89978142
There's something seriously wrong with that schedule, anon, why doesn't our favorite show have a minimum of 50% airtime?

>>89978142
what the actual fuck

>>89978142
>BR schedule is actually significantly more varied and is basically what everyone wants.

What the actual fuck, what's wrong with CN.

>>89978189

>Implying the US has ever had good scheduling or a good TV culture in general

In my country, I grew up with zero commercials on TV. Every show aired with no breaks. And in between them, instead of commercials we had a sweet grandmotherly older lady introducing the next show. The same show never aired more than once per day, and you could always find similar kinds of programs in the same timeslots. TV existed for the good of the people, for enlightenment and entertainment, not to sell things.

American TV is a cold monster of commercialization. I pity you all.

>>89978142
>>89978255
Maybe American kids are just dumb

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>>89978142
What's the Cartoon Network prime time? I mean, what's the time slot where there's more kids watching?

I'm curious to see what's the range of shows in that slot.

>>89978142
>>89978255
I'm jealous. They even get re-runs

>>89978535
what's your country, fucking latveria

>>89975580
>Half a Dollar looks like a better Cyborg than the one in the movie

>>89977674
I dunno. Cable is dying, but networks don't want to hear that.

>>89978142
And here's CN Australia
https://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/channel/251380/

>>89978743
wtf i love kangaroo now

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>>89978142
>Dexter's Lab
>Camp Lazlo
>even Flapjack

Times like this I wish it was legal to beat studio execs to death with a TV remote.

>>89977317
>Boomerang is a better alternative
>Schedule filled with Johnny test and Garfield show reruns, shows that no one liked

>>89970931
>90% of your airing schedule is the same show
>"The ratings must be so high because so many kids love it, can't have anything to do with the fact it's pretty much the only thing they can watch"

>>89975646
DeMarco can barely make a 4 hours block work, i won't trust him a channel

>>89979619
>watch
Implying they don't just leave it on as background noise and are too lazy to change the channel when playing video games, or using the internet.

>>89977603
Nickelodeon used to have 72 HOURS OF PURE SPONGEBOB

>>89979681
How is Toonami going? I haven't seen that block in months.

>>89979733

Demarco keeps taking suggestions from people who download anime and prefer subs rather than show stuff people want to watch.

>>89978646

Somewhere in Europe, of course. You know, the civilized continent.

>>89975889
>once TTG begins to give truly diminishing returns
Well, the ratings from the last bit of season three started to fall, and season four's ratings haven't been as great either so far.

So who knows.

>>89979733
Currently, the line-up is
>Dragon Ball Super, DBZ Kai, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Gundam Unicorn, Hunter x Hunter, Naruto Shippuden, One Piece, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex
Make of that what you will.

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>>89977603
Yes, but they realized that it was killing them and started to at lest try and climb out of the square hole they themselves dug.

Which is why I can't understand why the hell Cartoon Network would put themselves in the same situation their competitor had done years ago. They know, by example, that it doesn't work.

>>89979733
Anything that isn't DBZ range between decent to terrible ratings

>>89970956
citation needed

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>>89979937
I'm not versed in OG Nick & CN drama. How exactly Nickelodeon got out of the Spongebob vortex exactly?

>>89970931
I didn't even have to click this image to know what it was. I just saw it from the corner of my eye and my brain identified all that yellow as TTG program scheduling. I have a problem.

>>89978142
Wow that schedule looks perfectly normal. I didn't knew American had it so bad, is OP an usual thing? or just CN going insane?

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>>89977317
>Flintstones
>making anything better

>>89979590
>>Boomerang is a better alternative
>>Schedule filled with Johnny test and Garfield show reruns, shows that no one liked
As opposed to CN with that deluge of TTG, the few moments of quality on Boomerang are a godsend.

>>89980085
The latter. I remember when American CN actually had a line up closer to Brazil's. Everything had a decent timeslot, and a larger variety during primetime so you wouldn't marathon any one show until you puked.

>>89979789

>Jojo kills the block every saturday

It's not good.

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>>89978142
That's a pretty sweet set of varied blocks. In my country, Teen Titans was never really a thing, so the massive TTGo blocks have been replaced by Gumball. No clue what's going to happen here when the show inevitably has the plug pulled on it, given it occupies about 50% of the channel's daily programming.

>>89977603
When Korra, GL:TAS, and YJ were airing, there was a screenshot that was regularly posted showing the top 50 children's shows in terms of ratings for some particular week. About 35-40 of them were Spongebob episodes. I wish I still had the picture saved. It was insane.
TTGo and Spongebob got rerun like crazy because they are ratings gold.

>>89980373
This, all the way up until the early 2010's CN had huge variety in its daily schedules. Even through the dark ages they still knew to mix their shows up.

>>89979789
>Hunter x Hunter, Naruto Shippuden, One Piece, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex
Jesus Christ how disgusting.

>>89980010
http://kidscreen.com/2017/02/09/amid-nickelodeon-growth-viacom-unveils-new-strategy/

https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/248873/viacom-viab-q1-earnings-and-revenues-surpass-estimates

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/viacom-reports-first-quarter-results-120000509.html

Nick's parent company has gone through some intense restructuring and has been trying new things to see if it can do better than it has been. Nickelodeon is one of their top brands that it owns and is working to expand and grow it's cash cow.

It literally took the parent company nearly dying, for it to realize it needed to get it's shit together and start acting like a company with some common sense.

I don't know what Time Warner is doing but I'm assuming CN isn't as important in the long run when it comes to Company health and probably doesn't care for it as much, and is allowing it to go to shit because it has more important things that it owns.

At this point, Disney and Nick seem to be fighting for first place and CN is lagging behind because it's doing exactly what Nick was doing years ago(knowing full well it leads to stagnation).

>>89980480
seriously i don't why toonami even bothers airing shows like naruto and one piece when those shows will take like a lifetime to watch.

>>89980480
If they replaced some of the shows with Kenshin or Yu Yu Hakusho would it make a difference?

>>89980570
Anime was a mistake. When they finish the autopsy of Toonami, the cause of death will be long running Anime. It has already happened before.

>>89976429
>The problem is that I'm pretty sure CN plain doesn't know that SU's core fanbase is young adults and not children.
It's not quite that simple. The demographic they're chasing, and the demographic for which they get advertisers, is small children. So even if a show is doing well, it might not be doing well for the right demographic that the network wants.

Which is silly, but that's how networks roll.

>>89980613
i don't think so, but it would be better if they just aired short lasting anime that last at least 30 episodes or less, and then switch it up with another 30 episode anime.
good anime doesn't need over a hundred episodes

>>89980660
you blame naruto too huh?

>>89980550
So what's the way out? Putting money on creating more shows and making a more "normal" airing schedule?

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>>89980196
>Flintstones
>bad

>>89976069

Makes sense...

But they're still niggers

>>89980613
Long running anime basically hog up airspace for years and throttle the network.

They need to start shifting things around and air more new shows with a shorter run time.

>>89980749
The Flintstones isn't 'bad', but I always found it horribly boring and uninteresting growing up. It's at least leagues better than the Jetsons, though.

>>89980715
>Putting money on creating more shows and making a more "normal" airing schedule?

This, this is how you get yourself out of a rut. Make new content that people will enjoy and air it in proper fashion to where your consumers can see it and thus get good ratings. Common sense solutions that the execs at the top can't seem to decipher or understand until it's screaming in their face and their wallets are burning in their pockets.

Disney and Nick seem to slowly understand it, took them long enough, but CN seems to be regressing. I legitimately don't know why they're doubling down on this plan, it's a known failure in the long-run.

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>>89980881
I live Steven Universe and it boggles my mind that for me to continue to see this show it depends on just how well a specific channel promotes the show.


If CN ruins Steven Universe i'll be mad.

>>89980352
Nah, sounds like CN 2 with all the the worst things about CN 10 years ago

>>89974647
Honestly unless streaming services stop fucking around with Comedy Central -tier shit and Dreamworks collabs and actually get to making their own animated departments we might be.

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>>89974647
Depends, I'd keep an eye on Nickelodeon in the future.

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>>89974647
>we're about to enter a new dark age
No, we're already in one!

>>89978142

>no king of the hill or mcfarland power hours

one top of shitty schedualing we are stuck with those

>>89981268

its high time they came back, there is a weird cycle between the three, with one always being down

problem is real world culture and SJW madness

also no south park or rick and morty/ adult swim stuff

>>89980881
>Common sense solutions that the execs at the top can't seem to decipher or understand until it's screaming in their face and their wallets are burning in their pockets.
I'm actually not sure it's quite that easy. Not that Netflix and the internet dominates so much of kids' lives, I think networks are still trying to figure out how and when to best air and promote shows. Which isn't to say CN isn't baffling with its complete lack of promotion, but the magic formula still seems hard to hit.

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>>89981533
Not gonna lie, there are a few things under their belt that have a lot of promise

>>89981681
Wait, that looks fucking cool. What is this? Or do we just have concept art

>>89975156
Not ATHF. Boston. It's fucking New England's fault.

>>89981268
just wondering, what's the source for that image/what's it referring to?

>>89981759
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_Techs

It's a new show that's supposedly coming is 2018. We don't really know much about it other than it's about some kids fighting video game monsters that somehow made it into their world.

Eh, I'm willing to give it a chance.

>>89979789
Could you imagine if they aired half of these starting around 9-10 every weeknight? CN would be a lock with the nerdy preteen/teen set. Half of the brilliance of the original Toonami was that it aired every weekday, so even if a show dragged forever and had nothing going on most episodes, it was just a part of people's daily ritual. It was the anime geek's version of Oprah.

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>>89981759
Just concept art for now, but it is greenlit for a full series. It's being done by one of the head writers of Robot Chicken and Fanboy and ChumChum

There's also Mysticons, which I dig the look of

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>>89975707
I can't put the issue at their feet when BPD was so incompetent that they not only whipped the entire city into a frenzy over nothing, but then they had the gall to push their own lionization after 1) Missing a bomb plot that killed 3 people and maimed dozens, and 2) Putting the city under effective martial law and violating hundreds of homeowners' search and seizure rights in order to 3) Catch the bombers that they eventually cornered in a completely different area using old-fashioned detective work.

Yeah I fucking said it. It was a clusterfuck and had untold ramifications for a major international business and all the other businesses that rely on them (CN and the studios/advertisers).

>>89981888
>Kids fight vidya IRL
>>89981948
>Fanboy and chum chum writer involved

Well, that's dropped. Mysticons looks pretty neat though

>>89981789
I'd go with 50/50 on the blame department. Boston overreacted big-time of course, but if somebody in the ATHF creation department could have at least talked to the mayor or someone in City Hall about what they were doing, maybe even created a game of some sort of citywide game out of it, shit could have been different.

>>89982094
I never really got the hate Fanboy and Chum Chum got, it's not that bad.

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>>89971755
Christ alive...We're on the highway to Horseshit, Illinois with no pit stops.

>>89970931
is television imploding or something? I'm pretty certain having so much of the same is not normal by any margin

>>89982141
>but if somebody in the ATHF creation department could have at least talked to the mayor or someone in City Hall about what they were doing
I think anyone would be bewildered by a diode covered sign mistaken for bombs.

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>>89970987
TTGO originated as one of those shorts from DC Nation and Stuart Synder, the previous CN president, favored it so fucking much that when DC Nation died he took that one out of all the others people actually wanted and made it a series
That's why it was promoted the way it was back in it's early days, and because it got good ratings that was an even bigger excuse to air more then any other show they had

>>89982539
People are stupid, which is why CN should have covered their asses legally, so when some idiot made a big stink about Lite-Brites being bombs, they could have got a lawyer to explain them to the "concerned" citizen and not be in as much shit as they were in.

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>>89981888

>>89982141
That's not how Boston (New England, really) works. Once you have authority everyone has to submit to your (lack of) understanding and it becomes the baseline that everyone else is supposed to behave by.

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>>89971911
it makes their animated sitcom seem that much more important on an even deader channel

>>89982261
it was also nowhere near the 'premium quality nicktoon' mark as they advertised it.

> gee this show sure is popular lets put it in more time slots

and so after a few seasons of this single-sentence circular reasoning, the entire fucking channel is dominated by 1 show.

the real answer is, they have toys to sell

>>89972745
if i remember correctly SU got pretty good ratings, that bismuth episode even got greater ratings then usual
CN has shows that get good to decent ratings but it seems like they're willing to axe every other show for one that get's them consistently good ratings simply because they air it and promote it the most

>>89972647
Didn't they used to do this with Scooby Doo and its various spinoffs/movies in the late 90's-Early 2000s?

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>>89983065
>it was also nowhere near the 'premium quality nicktoon' mark as they advertised it.
What the hell does that mean?

>>89983273
Speaking of scooby doo
has be cool scooby doo really not aired an episode since last march?

how is that show not cancelled

>>89981806
It´s the geek girl from LWA, i think

>>89970931
I've never actually seen Sonic Boom on CN. And when did Be Cool Scooby Doo fade out? I caught like 2 episodes and then never saw it again.

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>have friends with kids
>tfw the little shits watch TTG or play Minecraft all the time while I'm visiting

>>89983450
Sonic Boom and Be Cool Scooby Doo were sent to Boomerang for more TTGO airtime

>>89970931
ttg is honestly their best show right now tbqh I mean yeah it has a couple bad episodes but you can ignore those since this show doesn't really have much continuity.

I love how Mighty Magiswords was never actually popular after they wouldn't stop promoting it.

Can we admit the only reason anybody had threads was for waifu dumps and the show really is shit with bad comedic timing?

>>89975139
No. Cartoons would have to be incredibly low budget to actually make any money on youtube.

>>89983677
It was pretty obvious they only took it in for merchandising

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>>89970931
>from 7:00AM to 5:00PM
>besides a two hour break nothing but teen titansGO! for ten hours

>>89983379
they promised it would cause a second golden nicktoon era on nick by its unequivocal quality alone, dethroning spongebob as nick's best nicktoon made in recent years.

turns out, it was the epitome of forgettable.

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>>89970931
>Transformers: RiD
Why did Hasbro make a new deal with CN and allow another Transformers series on that channel? They have to remember being burned by them after TFA aired.

>>89983677
I'm reminded of that My Knight and Me anon that would post the nearly same image of that shows promo art and ask the same question over and over again.

It was more pathetic than anything, if only because it got less than a dozen answers and most of them were negative.

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>>89983848
Who promised you that? And more importantly why did you believe?

I like the show, and I never thought it was anywhere near as good the golden age Nicktoons

>>89976557
The summer bomb was a major success, but I wonder if that has given CN the idea that SU works better as an "event" show, so they would rather air it rarely so each they can get a big "OH MY GOSH LOOK LOOK LOOK" hype train going every time they drop a few new episodes.

That's just not a strategy CN can use with any of their other shows because none have strong storylines.

>>89980550
>Nick's parent company has gone through some intense restructuring and has been trying new things to see if it can do better than it has been.

Too little, too late to save Harvey Beaks.

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>>89980480
>not liking Fun Piece
>not liking Funter X Funter
>not liking Stand Alone Funplex

Why does anon hate fun?

>NBA All Star Jam
>Is actually a TTG marathon

That makes no sense

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>>89974647
>we're about to enter a new dark age

Ohhh, sweet naive child

We were always in one.

>>89977217
Yeah. There's a reason MGM and HB characters have stuck around so long.

>>89984515
it doesn't have to

it's just another excuse to air more TTGO marathons and everyone knows it

No wonder I haven't watched this channel in over a year. Looks like I haven't missed a single thing.

>>89970931
Why would you watch TV on TV?

>>89985086
Because the internet I have is limited. When you live in rural areas, you have limited options on how you get internet and the service I have now is 80 dollars a month for internet(15 gigs) and phone service. Streaming kills it quicker than anything.

Hell, watch standard Youtube videos for 15 minutes kills my gigabytes.

Not even CN LatAm was this bad with their love of Ben 10

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>>89975768
>Lakewood despite being wanted [isn't] going to get a series
OK K.O.! is definitely gonna become a series; we just don't know when. CN keeps milking those 2-minute guest-animated shorts because they result in beautiful animation on a feasible budget with manageable deadlines.

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>>89986104
How much can you really do beyond a strip mall with superheroes? Especially if the only villains are robots. If the world of OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes doesn't develop further beyond what we saw in the mobile game, I'm afraid this premise fails to have any potential as a fully-fledged series.

>>89987109
Same could be said for RS where most of the weird shit that happened was at the park
I'm sure they'll go to different places for adventures

>>89987177
True, true. I forgot that Regular Show was actually a workplace comedy at heart.

>>89975646
>>89975156
>>89975462
>>89975957
>>89975974
>>89976120
But by the time of the Bomb scare, CN had retired the Cartoon Cartoons and a slew of mediocre replacement shows like Camp Lazlo, Squirrel Boy, and My Gym Partner's a Monkey came in.

The Jim years(2001-2007), while good at first, got really mediocre in the last three years. If Samples stayed at CN, who knows if they would've gotten good again, or worse, or just been content to wallow in middle-of-the-roadness?

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>>89986104

Does anyone still watch CN?

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>>89970931
Jesus, even Nick wasn't that bad with Spongebob

>>89975139
Animations don't make the money they used to on youtube. When the creators made money per minute of your video watched, or whatever it was, you could make a decent living. The new algorithm works on views. So instead of making a say a $1000 off of 100 people watching your 5-10 minute animation, they probably wouldn't even make a dollar or even get monetization rights.

Certain companies get away with it like Roosterteeth but they also have their hands in like 5 different popular youtube channels. I've seen some great animations on youtube and even some pilots but they are risky to do unless you already have a following and can produce content on constant schedule.

>>89970987
Bridges age gaps because muh nostalgia retards from 20-40 and the target demo of 12-16.
Its also insanely cheap, inane, and superhero related.

It's the COPS effect. If a cheap rerun of COPS at 3pm does better ratings than one of their new shows they paid out the ass for, brother, they're gonna run COPS.

The manchildren who watch SU aren't gonna catch random repeats. AT is fallen out until it runs regularly again. But with Go and AWOG, you can plant any ol' episode.

>>89975489
It's really weird because I remember AT was shown as often as TTGo at one point. Did the last like 2 season get some terrible ratings or something?

>>89970931
>Shrek is airing more than Steven Universe
SOME

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>>89970931
>TTG in yellow
What did they mean by this?

>>89970931
Up Next: Teen Titans Go!
Later: Teen Titans Go!
Day after: Teen Titans Go!
Forever: Teen Titans Go!

>>89974086
SU fans are fucking retarded and get pissed so easily. This is the first time in a loooong while where the show hasn't been on the network.

then there's shows like AT and RS that haven't been on the network since 2014.

>>89984214
I never said I did. I just find it funny how hard that shit tanked and how staunchly you refuse to accept it for the shitheap that it is.