TEN GRAND A MONTH

>>89966811
wheres the new page?

>>89966811
I refuse to believe you.

O don't hate this guy, but I refuse to believe he makes four times the best wage I've ever pulled down.

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I can't wait until the Patreon model comes crashing down.

It's literally the "People still paying for AOL" method of making money.

Retards who don't realize they are being bilked for 5 bucks a month because they liked something one time.

It's fucking crazy. I was on dA earlier looking at some shit, and found an artist who is at the top of the "Top for 24 Hours" category, and I checked out her page. She's got a Pateon for a "story" she's making that's literally just a few sentences from her (clearly ESL) and a random anime chick posed. She's got 1,600 people giving her money every month, but of course she hides how much she's making. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that most of them aren't chipping in one buck a month.

Who the fuck are these gullible pieces of shit? No one should in their right mind be earning anywhere near that much money for doing literally nothing.

It makes me think that I could go out, change the color palette of a bunch of people's art, claim it's original, say I am working on a story, and do the same god damn thing.

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>>89966811

He seems to keep his actual monthly income a secret. I can't find it anywhere on the page. This said, even if ALL of his 4,000 supporters pledged the dead minimum of $1 each, that's still enough for him to live very comfortably on.

>>89966811
To be fair that tranny was cute as fuck before it started shoving rivets in its face.

>>89967134

It's not a bad model in and of itself. There's a few podcasts I like. I chip in $2 per episode. They produce extra free content for patrons every month as well as staying motivated to keep producing content on the regular. I don't begrudge $6 per week for stuff I want to keep happening. What is that, the cost of a couple of slices of pizza and a pop? That's fine by me.

>>89967147

That's what they are all doing nowadays in order to keep up the facade that they aren't making enough money. It's sheer dishonesty.

Guys who tell you exactly how much they make a month I can respect to some level, even if I don't like what they are doing or think they are just taking advantage of poor saps. At least then they are fully informing anyone who might be considering giving them cash that, "Hey -- I make this much money a month, you really think I should be getting your 5 bucks?"

>>89967171

The problem is that some people, like in the scenario I just mentioned, are simply willfully taking advantage of the model.

They aren't actually working on what they claim to be working on, they're just drawing and then attaching a few lines of poorly constructed fluff in order to prevent the whole scheme from collapsing in on itself.

If I was somehow a popular socialite, with zero marketable skills in this sector (I half one half, not the other), I would honestly just go out, find an artist who would be willing to churn out content for a percentage of Patreon bux, and do that. It takes no effort on your part to do this.

As for the Podcasts thing, do they ever advertise during them? Really think about it. Your brain might tune it out, but go back and check. Is there mention of Patreon? Audible? <Insert Monthly Box Here>? Any of those things? Because I can tell you right now, you're being taken advantage of otherwise.

>>89967177

I was wondering about that and I just had a look at everyone I pledge to on Patreon, and every one of them show the amount they're getting per month. Makes me feel good that I'm only supporting principled people who aren't trying to scam or bullshit their actual or potential supporters.

>>89966811

So progresso.

>>89967134

>It makes me think that I could go out, change the color palette of a bunch of people's art, claim it's original, say I am working on a story, and do the same god damn thing.

But you haven't, have you? Stop whining about people utilizing the free market more successfully than you.

>>89967217

I couldn't do this because I'd get shut down real fucking quick once someone caught on to my dishonesty.

>>89967208
>As for the Podcasts thing, do they ever advertise during them? Really think about it. Your brain might tune it out, but go back and check. Is there mention of Patreon? Audible? <Insert Monthly Box Here>? Any of those things? Because I can tell you right now, you're being taken advantage of otherwise.

Well, you know it's funny. The podcasts I listen to DO have advertisements, but the patron-only version are generally ad-free. This said, I mostly listen to comedy podcasts who are given free reign to produce their own ads as they see fit, and sometimes the ads are so entertaining in their own right that I actually listen to the non-patron versions so I can get a few bonus laughs from that. I certainly don't resent the people I like and admire the talent of making money by doing the things I like and admire them for.

>>89967236

I don't like Podcasts as a rule because they are lazy. A lot of comedians figured out that they couldn't make it on radio (hell, some radio personalities figured it out too), and so they decided to just do Podcasts. It's way easier than going on stage and having to hammer out material over the course of a year so you can put together a single half to hour long set.

I know that I am coming off as a ranting lunatic, but there's a lot of people out there who look at Patreon with disgust because it disrupts many individual trades. Often in a bad way.

It's a bit hyperbolic, but if comedy podcasts suddenly superseded comedy lounges as the primary track for comedians to potentially get other work/projects off the ground -- then you'd see a massive deflation of people in this sector; which could lead to the wholesale destruction of a superior craft.

It takes a lot of work not to just be able to write jokes, and tell them, but to also have stage presence. Podcasts effectively eliminate two of those sections of labor, and as a result appeals to the lowest common denominator.

>>89967134
>>89967208
I can't understand why anyone would have a problem with this. If they find an audience to support them good on them. They get to do what they like to do. And their supporters get to feel good about supporting them. It's win-win.

>>89967293

In the situation that I outlined, the person in question is deceiving the people supporting them. You don't see a problem with that? If they instead went to Kickstarter, asked for a couple grand in cash to make... say an artbook? That'd be one thing. No deception is being made. Assuming of course they delivered on the artbook.

Instead, here we have a person who asking for money to create something that they aren't actually creating.

>>89967307
I don't actually know about the case in detail you're referencing. Notwithstanding, the people supporting them don't see it as a problem so is it really a problem?

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>>89967171
>giving money to morons that just talk with each other

>>89967286
>I don't like Podcasts as a rule because they are lazy. A lot of comedians figured out that they couldn't make it on radio (hell, some radio personalities figured it out too), and so they decided to just do Podcasts. It's way easier than going on stage and having to hammer out material over the course of a year so you can put together a single half to hour long set.

The only ones I listen to who work as comedians who also have podcasts are Paul F. Thompkins and Scott Auckerman, and they both regularly tour, do events and stuff. In fact, Paul F. Thompkins's podcast is always recorded in front of a live audience, so this literally is the same material one way or the other. Auckerman's podcast sometimes does the same thing; he'd done intercontinental tours, in fact. The other comedy podcasts are people doing the sort of material which generally wouldn't translate well to live set performances, like film reviews for instance.

>I know that I am coming off as a ranting lunatic

Yes, that's true.

>It's a bit hyperbolic, but if comedy podcasts suddenly superseded comedy lounges as the primary track for comedians to potentially get other work/projects off the ground -- then you'd see a massive deflation of people in this sector; which could lead to the wholesale destruction of a superior craft.
>It takes a lot of work not to just be able to write jokes, and tell them, but to also have stage presence. Podcasts effectively eliminate two of those sections of labor, and as a result appeals to the lowest common denominator.

That's absurd and I'll tell you why. What you're saying amounts to "If you have the skills to make people laugh on a stage, then you're worthy of making an income from doing so. But if your particular set of skills are better-suited to making them laugh in their own home, then you should not do so, because then people who have non-overlapping skill sets and who set out to entertain in a different way might suffer."

>>89966811
>qt 3.14 transgirl
>ruin her with disgusting nose ring
Goddammit. It would've been hot had she got a lip ring, but nose rings are just dumb and make people look like cartoon bulls.

>>89967379

I give money to clever people who produce entertaining performances. There's plenty of podcasts I listen to one episode of and have no further use for. I do have standards.

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>>89967448

>>89966811
less than pewdiepie. less than a zillion heir and heiresses that don't even create mediocre stuff.

>>89967307
But they are creating it, they're making those ESL broken sentences every month. If 1000 people think that's worth $5 a month then what's it to you?

If you want to complain about something, complain about the people that charge per month on Patreon for a service that just never gets delivered, like a bunch of indie game devs. Otherwise you're just getting buttflustered that someone has friends willing to give them money to support them.

>>89967448
I think nose rings are cute in some cases.
Its those ear gauges that ruin her and everyone else that has them.

>>89967134
>>89967147
>>89967236
You do realize you have to pay taxes on money you get through Paetron right? so that's like 8-15% of whatever they're pulling.

>>89967134
At this point people only pay for AOL for ad-free E-Mail and VIP support.

>>89967969

I'm not sure if you're arguing against me or the guy I'm arguing against since you're citing us both without addressing anything in particular that either of us just said, so I'll just kind of take a crack at it and assume that you're arguing against my support of these people. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

In which case I'll just say that 85% of something is better than 100% of nothing, and I'm still cool with giving a podcast I like the cost of a slice of pizza every time they put ten hours of work into producing a new episode.

>>89967134

On the plus side, I'm a moderately decent artist and the kind of shlock I see people peddling on Patreon, and get absolutely disgusting amounts of money for, shows me that if I were to suddenly start shilling my work online I could make some decent coin. It boosts my self-esteem and my desire to improve so I can actually sell shit I'm proud of.

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>>89968066

>ITT: the free market at work.

a suckers born every minute /co/

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>>89967061

>>89968185
Yes. Now excuse me while I go get my $50 piece of molded plastic with a Star Wars logo.

Here's a hint, there have always been people that'll happily give their money to some cause, be that entertainment or something else. There's nothing new to this, why does it matter that someone is using the system to get cash? The people giving them money aren't forced to do so, and they are allowed to spend their money however they like

>>89968211

And that was when he had about a THOUSAND less patrons than he does now. If we presume that the additional thousand or so are donating at the same level as the ones listed there, then that's presumably another $2,500 per month on top of that sum.

>>89968215
>>89968284
And doesn't he sell QC merchandise as well? The fat bastard's sitting pretty.

>>89966811
tranny power is a scary thing

>>89966811

Sounds feasible that theres enough autists out there to support another one.

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>Aaron Diaz still gets paid monthly patreon checks even though last year he literally only produced one single comic page

I stopped reading this years ago. Has the art really not moved on at all?

I remember seeing it develop over the course of reading it, by this looks unchanged, and it's been AGES since I last looked at it.

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>>89966811
>>89967061
>>89968284
>>89967147
>monthly income a secret
That's recent, pic related is from December, shows similar patron numbers and over 10,000 USD for JJ

>>89966811
at least he actually does his comic . . .. not like Diaz who took the patreon money on a holiday to china and never actually updates "A guaranteed Dresden Codak comic every other week!"

>>89968973

Remember Diaz FURIOUSLY responding to those who took him to task for failing to live up to the obligations he promised to his paying customers? He ranted about how he'd "rather work in a fucking coal mine" than have to produce content on a schedule.

I laughed until it hurt when someone simply replied "I hope you get black lung."

>>89967134
For every con artist on there, there's at least 3 people who are able to put more effort into something they enjoy making that people enjoy reading. The good already outweighs the bad.

It's a simple service that helps people more than hurts you, so let them do it.

>>89966811
>Ten grand a month
>hasn't even drawn the red head fucking the shit out of the twink

What is even the point

>>89968671
It's possibly gotten worse, honestly.
Though that's not saying much.

>>89969241
if it had cuckolding id donate

>>89968947
Fucking goldmine. How many are furrys and how many are characterfags?

>>89968973
>>89969010
So whats his output? A page a month?
I guess he saw that only a minority see what they are subbing and mimd that he doesnt live up to promises.

>>89967452
Of course they're clever. They convince fools like you to give them money for producing "entertaining performances".

>>89967452

You are cucking yourself, they dont need anymore money, this is why people dont buy movies anymore "Oh those actors who have millions of dollars need your $12 to support them!"

>>89969410

So hold on, let me be clear on your angle here.

I should withhold money which is such a trivial sum that I don't even notice it disappearing from my bank account, as should everyone else, in order to punish them for wanting to make a living doing something which they enjoy and other people appreciate, in, what? The hopes that they will then stop producing the content which I enjoy?

This really strikes me as a self-destructive level of cynicism you're promoting here, bordering on anhedonic misanthropy.

>>89967286
>I don't like Podcasts as a rule because they are lazy.
Try audio dramas instead.

>if comedy podcasts suddenly superseded comedy lounges[...]you'd see a massive deflation of people in this sector
Unlikely. It would more than likely be another case of digital vs. physical.

>>89969410
You should try audio dramas too.
I wish there was a /pod/ board for Anons to discuss podcasts and bypass paywalls, dammit.

>>89968947
>kate leth
>355th
kek

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Why is this writing allowed? Look at this shit. Try reading this without cringing.

Instead of bubbles arc being resolved by character growth and conflict. A literal God machine just appears and fixes everything. Because God doesn't like AI s9ftware being altered.

>>89969710
I miss old Hannelore.

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>>89968947
>tfw only a measly 100 bucks from patreon

>>89968066
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>89967134
>I should get mad because stupid people make stupid decisions to pay stupid, lazy people
Patreon is a great way to support artists I like. Everybody whines about people who go AWOL, like Spoony, but the fans who support him deserve to lose their money, then. I support A Fox in Space and Otaking, and I have no problem admitting that because their art is something that's almost completely non-existent every where else.

>>89967208
>As for the Podcasts thing, do they ever advertise during them?

I just want to revisit this one point before being done with this thread. I was just now listening to today's new episode of one of my favourite podcasts, and they had one of their in-house advertisements near the beginning of the show. I quite literally shrieked with laughter at the punchline at the end of their ad. There's no sequence of words which you can type which will make me angry that they manage to make money off of that in a show which they provide freely to the public.

>>89966811
Who gives a shit?

He manages to churn out a product that people choose to pay for. Such is capitalism.

Copy it, if you want.
I really don't get people crying about how somewhere in the world there's a person producing content they personally dislike and getting paid for it.

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>>89968947
>between 32 and 64 grand per month to draw porn

>>89969579
>audio dramas
Interested

>>89969512
What you and other fools are doing is destructive to society. You're promoting morons that do nothing productive in their lives and that also makes other people to aspire for such a life where just talking about random bullshit is enough earn you money. You and others enjoying and wanting more of said content proves how low society currently is and how it will continue falling if such practises continue (among other things of course).

>>89968211
What a stupid fucking tattoo What the fuck

>>89970122
>among other things
Like traffic circles and clouds!

>>89967134
>It makes me think that I could go out, change the color palette of a bunch of people's art, claim it's original, say I am working on a story, and do the same god damn thing.
And that would just make you a piece of shit and a thief instead of a lazy artist. Faggot.

>>89969241
She's a bottom

>>89969512
What you and other fools are doing is destructive to society. You're promoting morons that do nothing productive in their lives and that also makes other people to aspire for such a life where just talking about random bullshit is enough earn you money. You and others enjoying and wanting more of said content proves how low society currently is and how it will continue falling if such practises continue (among other things of course). If you don't care about spending 2 dollars a month, then give it to a charity, not to some pathetic excuse of a human.

>>89968211
>10k a month
>120k a year
>minus patreon cut and US income tax= about 80k at least
>80k
>to do something you love
>despite shit skill
man what i wouldnt do for that

>>89970115
You should be. They're essentially the new serial radio show, just through a podcast feed instead of your radio.

If you're into sci-fi, try "ars PARADOXICA", "Wolf 359", or "Archive 81".
If you're into paranormal, try "The Black Tapes", "TANIS", "Uncanny County", or "King Falls AM".
I also suggest "Greater Boston", "The Bridge", and the Night Vale Presents line-up.

>>89968638
>last year he literally only produced one single comic page
no way.
no fucking way

>>89970285
I will. I draw like 10 hours a day, listening fodder is key. Thanks, anon.

>>89970348
No problem. There's plenty more out there; I've only named the more popular titles going around right now.
Hit up the #AudioDramaSunday tag on Twitter to see what other podcasts people recommend.

>>89970285
Night Vale has kinda collapsed in on itself as of late.

Made me start writing a horror podcast to make up for their decline.

>>89970421
I'm okay with Night Vale myself, but that's just me.
But don't let your opinions on WTNV color your view on the other Night Vale Presents podcasts. They're all excellent in their own right.

>>89970441
Oh no doubt some proactive individuals probably had the same motivation.

I'm glad they got people interested in the serial horror Podcast genre again.

Can I address the real issue here? Why do type the dollar sign before the sum? Wouldn't it make more sense if it's after? You don't call $10 "dollar ten", do you?

>>89968151
Wouldn't work. The people that give out money on Patreon the most seem to have universally bad taste. You think the people that like QC will like anything better?

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>>89968211
god i wish that was me

>>89970305
Aaron "Will Eisner became a legend in the industry because of being a mediocre white guy" Diaz.
One page?! Holy fuck that makes me rage so fucking insanely hard. THIS is why I don't read webcomics (with the exceptions of a coupla artists who have already been published "properly" before they started webcomicing, like Deforge or Drew Weing)!

>>89970195

Did a podcaster rape your mom right in front of you or something? This is a comically bizarre intensity of hated you have going on for something so utterly innocuous.

>>89970605
It's the established proper way to mark them, ignoramus

https://malcolmsenglishpages.com/2013/04/07/how-to-write-money-amounts/
>Currency symbols (€, £, $ etc) should be placed before the number, with no space, like this:
>He earned €30,000 last year (spoken – thirty-thousand euros).
>Currency abbreviations, used in a formal report or newspaper writing, (EUR, GBP, USD etc) should be placed before the number, with a space

or http://www.onlinegrammar.com.au/writing-about-money-grammar-tips/

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>>89971172
>it needs to be personal to despise degeneracy

>>89967517
R.k. Milholland needs a goddamn wizard staff.

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>>89966811
Then why aren't you making a poorly thought out, terrible art filled queerbaiting webcomic to suck in all that wonderful tumblrfag monies anon?

You know the secret to success, not get to it.

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>>89970129
seriously, it's not like he isn't going to end up fucking it up anyway either.

>>89972193
>degeneracy
where do you think you are

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>>89966811
Claire was a qt trans and now she's got gauges and a nose ring and...now she just seems kind of meh.

>>89968947
>Assigned Male
>$2800 a month
This is a fake screenshot, right?

Right?

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>>89968066
>>89975272
Chuckled audibly

>>89970285
Limetown had a pretty good premise but didn't really bare it out in the end. Is that still around? Has it gotten better?

>>89975733
Limetown is over and never coming back, the writers are trying to pitch it as a TV show.
I really wish there was a place to talk about podcasts/audio dramas.

>>89969356
>page a month?
yep, 13 pages in 2016 as against an expected 26

>>89969673
>>kate leth
>>355th
the number ranks by number of patrons, bear in mind list is comics only, most creators produce videos, maybe only 1 in 20 make comics.
Kate Leth is now ranked 241 with $2,237.80 per month

>>89969904
>100 bucks from patreon
that's in the top 25% of all comic creators; over 50% make less than $23

>>89970058
>porn
interestingly the Patreon take for SFW is about the same, or slightly more, as for NSFW

>>89975484
>Assigned Male
>>89975484
>fake
nope, check for yourself: https://graphtreon.com/all-patreon-creators?
> $2,977.24 per month

>>89967286
It's the opposite, most people start on podcasts and let's plays then realize they'd make less money on radio.

>>89966811
At least it's original work. One RWBY fanfiction author gets 2 grand a month.

>>89967061
It's possible but:

*taxes because he's too small to avoid them completely and is receiving the money personally, not as a business, and:

*hosting costs because he may not make money through ad serving but his website is still his primary income, and his traffic is considerable, and:

*complying with his various other costs like merchandising, maintenance and replacement of equipment, and so on, and:

*costs of business-dependent functions like attending cons, etc, and:

*on top of all that rent/mortgage payments, utilities, necessities, etc etc etc.

He's probably still doing OK, but "$10,000 a month!" is a freakishly stupid way of looking at it. Just based on a single person with a $120k annual income his tax liability would be about $23k for federales alone, plus state; the IRS is going to take a dim view of that all being "unearned" income from investment or whatever.

Assuming he still lives in Maryland that's an additional $5.5k in taxes alone, so he's down to like $90k before you even started looking at food or rent; if his household income is higher his taxes get even crazier - but conversely, if he's not single and his partner doesn't work, household expenditure is going to go up unless they live in a box under his bed.

He's probably not living on ramen but it's not as if he's even in the top centile for household income.


>>89967147
$4000/month would leave him with an annual income below the national median (by about $5k, most years); hardly raking it in and a very uncertain way of earning.

On $48k/yr he'd be paying the first $8k in income taxes alone.

>>89977079
But wouldn't he also get to claim a lot of those very items you listed as expenses on his taxes and thus get a break?

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>>89977079
>Assuming he still lives in Maryland

He doesn't.

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>>89975386
>and now she's got gauges and a nose ring

>>89977178
That depends on what they are. It's a myth that you can just claim anything and everything as a business expense and have a rebate on it - and it depends on where you live, the size of your company, and so on.

As any sort of private citizen, however, the answer is "no". There's no rebate available for server hosting, etc.

>>89977896
His taxes in Canada would be on something between CAN$157,000 (the upper limit) and CAN$63,000 (the lower limit).

Canadian taxation would eat up between CAN$40,000 and CAN$12,000 assuming he lives in Ontario (where most people live) and treating his Patreon income as "self-employed" income. It's aboot CAN$5,000 less if he's somehow managed to turn that income into something that comes direct to a shell company that in turn employs him, and has magically convinced the Mounties that this obvious one-man-band has a drummer, a bassist, and a chorus line who also do blowjobs in the dressing room. Otherwise he's probably paying the higher rates.

If he's not in Ontario then (by number of states) it's about 50/50 whether he's paying more or less - but in the states where it's higher, it's usually considerably so, with Quebec being the highest (and as one of the more populous states, also a more likely place to live) at CAN$45,000.

Of course, since he's being paid in USD$ and converting to CAN$ he may have fees payable on the whole sum (but taxed on the whole sum regardless) so even the presumably lower cost of living in the Great White North isn't necessarily leaving him better off.

As a US Citizen, he's also liable to pay US Federal taxes on his earnings regardless of where he lives.

>>89978226

look at this fat fuck goddamn

>>89966811
I'd gladly pander to trannies for this amount of money.

>>89978488
But Canadian science can turn him into a beautiful thin redhead girl on the taxpayer dollar, so it all comes out even right

Was it ever actually even suggested Martin was bi beforehand or did he just start going out with a transwoman out of nowhere

>>89979121
One of Marten's earliest comics had him say to Faye, "No pee pee in the poo poo." Nothing reversed that.

>>89978488
He said Halifax, so probably Nova Scotia.

>>89967134
Mad nobody supports your patreon, poor baby

>>89966811
I actually sucessfully stopped reading this when faye got a job welding in the robot league.

They ever clarify who gives and who takes in that two weiner relationship?

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>>89966811
I like this comic

>>89975733
>>89976095
I thought the writers were working on a Season Two.

And yeah, here's hoping for a /pod/ one day. Even if it's more dead than /po/.

>>89979724
Ah, the days when QC was about music and being a hipster in Boston.

>>89966811
I still want to know what he saw

>>89979776
And not sticking his peepee in the poopoohole. It's clear the main faggot is a faggot since he's afraid of anal sex with a woman but is fine if "she" has a dick.

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>>89972993

>Then why aren't you making a poorly thought out, terrible art filled queerbaiting webcomic to suck in all that wonderful tumblrfag monies anon?

>You know the secret to success, not get to it.


Yeah but what if the paradigm changes and things swing the other way? All the rebbeca sugar wannabes could end up being hunt down. Sort of like the communist hunts back in the day.

I only know about this comic by the meme?
What is about?

>>89980098
Originally it was about a circle of lonely losers obsessed with indie rock.

Now it's bad sci-fi drama and transsexuals for tumblrbux.

>>89977079
he doesn't lose money going to cons

>>89979860
you assume he's giving and not receiving?

>>89980139
So the redhead girl is actually a guy?

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>>89980187

>>89980308
>Update
>Number 2323
2 thousand comic strips about the life of a trans?

>>89980351
No, redhead transwoman was only a fairly late addition. The first decade of the strip was just a crap soap opera with indie music shit and bad sex jokes. He only started pursuing those tumblrbux relatively recently.

Honestly as a tumblr libtard you guys make hating this comic really awkward.

It's fucking garbage. The recent arc about the robot bullshit was the greatest sin to ever be wrought onto the medium of sequential arc but you fuckwits are still mad that trans people exist.

We need a better breed of troll.

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>>89980351
It was only about them after that point, pretty much right up until he decided to make illegal underground robot fights a thing.

>>89980308
>>89980351
welp I read some pages and the comic is very cringe. I can't believe this guy make my wage in a year in one month

>>89978551

I'd gladly fuck trannies for that amount of money

>>89980398
>relatively recently
>6 years ago

>>89975386
So did he purposefully make her ugly to get people to stop asking about whether she was post or pre op?

>>89978226
Is Jeph a proud transwomyn now?

>>89980438
>We need a better breed of troll.
This.
As a pinko socialist communist I give literally no shits about trans-am crap.
QC is terrible for so many reasons and should be ridiculed into hilarity for more than LGBTPBBQ.

>>89977079
>4000 a month is below the national median

For a 4 person family it is below the national median. For a single man he's doing quite well for himself.

>>89977896
>this affects the entire world

So he's complaining about Trump right?

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>>89980438
>>89981182
Your dissatisfaction with our brand of humour brings me many keks

Stay mad

>>89981228
Every day since November, yeah.

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>>89981228
In regards to Trump affecting the whole world, I wish he'd just nuke the whole world so I don't need to deal with Tranny bullshit comics.

On an unrelated note, do you think the meme is responsible for how much money he's making?

>>89981406
How much does Buckley make off of the Loss meme?

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>>89981431
I suppose but you know how retarded people are. Like paying to send people hurtful messages on Twitch.

>>89981431
Buckley is making nearly 4000 dollars on patreon

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>>89981431
Not enough.

>>89967208

Holy shit you're a salty fuck. Why not focus more on your own life than get worked up over people spending/making money in a manner you don't approve of?

>>89975272
SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET?

>>89967134
>everything should be given to me for free
>anyone who contributes time and money to anything obviously must have been conned into doing in
Grow up, you cynical parasite.

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>>89967134
>I can't wait until the Patreon model comes crashing down.
jelly as fuck
maybe if you were productive you'd attract an audience that is willing to pay money for your stuff
patreon is just basic capitalism, you fucking commie

>>89967134
The Patreon model is still better than Kickstarter or anything of the likes. If you donate to a kickstarter, you're donating a large sum of money at once without knowing if you're about to be cucked or not. With Patreon, you give the creators a little bit of money a month and you can drop support anytime you're unsatisfied.

I do believe that lazy artists/creators shouldn't be making money but retards also deserve to waste their money on a shitty product.

>>89966811
Good for them.
I think the facial expressions are repulsive and I do not care to get into this at all, good on them for doing so well.

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>>89982010
No, Golden Magic Slingshot

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>>89980018
>Yeah but what if the paradigm changes and things swing the other way? All the rebbeca sugar wannabes could end up being hunt down. Sort of like the communist hunts back in the day.


Naah, we don't live in a perfect world unfortunately....

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>>89968947
>32k per month for that disgustingly fucking bland art

No wonder robots are going to take over every job on Earth, millennials don't ever want to leave home and just pay other people to stay home and entertain them. Humanity is doomed.

>>89984038
*upvotes*

>>89984038
capitalism was a mistake

>>89984242
Capitalism is fine, but lazy fucks and the most sheltered generation in existence don't help.

>>89966811
I can't stop pooping right now.

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>He makes 10k a month putting out garbage
>If I applied myself I could outdo him easy
>But I don't

Suppose I've only myself to blame.

It's been like a half hour and poo is still coming out.

>>89984446
>>89984492
wait whats this joke?

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>mfw ordered Nedroid book from amazon and got QC shit instead

I wanna burn the damn thing but I'm sure the company is gonna want me to send it back to get my Nedroid

>>89966811
>this page is what ten thousand dollarydoos looks like
I hate this.
>>89968211
Kek, only retards get gimmick tattoos, that's a scientific fact. Only his is 10x as retarded as the moustache finger.

>>89977896

Well, I can at least respect the fact he's the single liberal that followed though with the 'I'm moving to Canada' horseshit.

>>89972193
>Entertainment is degenerate
OK there chief.

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>>89966811
>There are people making six digits a year for doing nothing but drawing a no effect webcomic that has a tranny in it
You bet your sweet ass I'm jealous.

>>89968211
In an interview before patreon even existed he said he was making 6 figures from ad rev and products alone

Patreon only doubled what he was making off of QC before.

QC at its peak before the 3rd wave of webcomics with Homestuck and all of the ones that followed was THE webcomic.

And you have to bare in mind he's been making around that much for a long time. QC matched what he made at his job around the second year in; enough that he quit when he was fed up

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It feels kinda reverse dumbing of age, where willis is constantly swapping between characters for no reason QC DESPERATELY needs a breather from robots.

Marten going on another bland date with Claire, the lesbians, Marigold, anything.

>>89985664
>Patreon only doubled what he was making off of QC before.

You mean tripled.

>>89967134

Can you find the link to the patreon?

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>>89968169

>>89966811
TEN

TRAN

A

MONTH

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>>89968066

>>89981526
>Like paying to send people hurtful messages on Twitch.
But I'd do that for free

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>>89966811
This will never cease to upset me.

>>89979776
>in Boston
You misspelled 'Northampton,' it's about 2 hours to the west. SomethingPositive is in Boston.

>>89978226
yeah never realized that she has the same rings as the creator

dude might legit be projecting

also the nose ring is the worst part the rest is fine

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>>89980492
>those eyes
I don't think I've ever seen eyes this full of pain and anguish in my life. Did Jeff do this on purpose?

>>89977079

You're forgetting ad revenue (probably not spectacular) and merch sales (likely significant).

He sells t-shirts, and t-shirts sell.

>>89986450
Are you entirely unfamiliar with the I'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE meme

>>89985695
>was making 6 figures before
>is now making a second 6 figures to patreon

nani?

>>89979121
I don't think so, which made the whole thing so much more ridiculous.

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>>89986450

Right before the scene he had to take Drunk McGee to the ER after finding her passed out in a puddle of her own puke. It was a really BAD idea to draw him with those bags under his eyes, but they are there for a reason. He'd had a rough night.

The rest of his night was pretty rough too if you know what I'm saying

I'm referring to Claire putting her penis into his butt

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>>89982010
HAMMER AND MAGIC HELMET!

>>89986450

More like subconsciously.

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>>89968066

>>89975386
I RECOGNIZE THAT BULGE!

>>89987170
>her

>>89975386
>wait a minute...

>>89966811
Thats what happens when you make something popular.

He makes that much because people give him that much. Thats all there is to it

>>89967134
You think their being bilked?

People giving money to people before its being made, that could always be a bad idea. But for things that are already made?

Like, OOPS I ACCIDENTLY AM GIVING YOU MONEY.

Man, i sure wish i saved that 5 dollars, it destroyed my life giving that away...

>>89969410
PAYING FOR ENTERTAINMENT! HAHAHA FOOLISH MORTALS!

A SONG HAS LESS MATERIALS IN IT THEN THESE CHEETOHS. IT WEIGHS NOTHING, SURELY IT CANNOT COST A DOLLAR!

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>>89966811
Never read this comic. Is it any good?

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>>89988711
>Is it any good?

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>>89988711

>>89967177

wtf does their income have to do with you paying for their product?

ppl like you are still expecting shit for free. no one is obligated to disclose their monthly earnings unless it's their choice or absolutely necessary under particular circumstances under the law.

patreons model is perfectly reasonable and simple. pay whatever you want to help your content provider produce more content.

>>89974649
> views gif
Hah!

>>89968947
>1k for mspaint shit
Dayum, if Sarah can do that, then I can to!

>>89987170
For every pointless, boring story with wasted potential that jazzy nephew mchandstab spews out, I'll always love him for that page, it's unintended humour and the numerous, hilarious edits it spawned.
It's up there with "loss" and "I'm sad!"

>>89978488
>Canada
>states

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>literally leagues ahead of this guy
>no online presence
Do i really have to sell me soul to the SJW god to make cash out of these idiots or what?

>>89966811
>>89967061
>>89968211

I read in a Time magazine article the guy who makes "The Oatmeal" pulls in six figures. I love web comics and never even heard of it. Went there and it's just "eh". It's not bad at all, but six figures?!

That's when I dropped all plans to become a freelance graphic designer (now that desktop publishing is completely dead and actual design jobs are impossible to find) and work on making an interactive digital web comic with a heavy emphasis on design rather than illustration.

Research tells me to expect an unbelievable amount of competition and will take about 6yrs to be any good. I'm good with that.

>>89990074
It's more about putting in the work. Of course it can't be some niche thing you and ten people like. It has to appeal to a good number of folks.

>>89990142
I usually get like 1-4 likes of tumblr or instagram, but then again i post like one thing every 6-12 months

>>89990036

I have to imagine making it stressed him the fuck out. It wasn't even finished when he first uploaded it, he had to go back and finish coloring Claire's eyes and the bed.

>>89990269
Link?

>>89990384
himmel-butuer tumblr

>>89966811
I guess loading your shit comic with pandering nonsense while being a massive attention whore does have its advantages

>>89967293
It's just about people being mad that people they don't like are making money. So they blame the site.

It's senseless. It's not like Kickstarter where people are getting scammed. The artist only gets paid if they deliver a product. If people are paying for a product, and they are getting the exact product they paid for, and they can stop paying at any time, where's the problem? It's just sheer jealousy.

>>89966811
its filthy money, tainted by people with mental illness.

How popular was QC when it was just lame sex jokes and indie rock stuff?

>>89990452
>fat patch
Wow, these ppl are nitpicky as fuck, I hope those fatfags die from a heart attack

>>89968066
AKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>89968947
Surprised that Meredith is still gaining this much considering how shit her comics became.
Shame, really.

>>89967134
if breeding season crashing and burning didn't hurt pateron i don't think anything will kill it

>>89988029
mah man

>>89990074
His comic has been online for over ten years. The reality is that being 'leagues ahead' of someone is really sort of irrelivent because the important part is actually producing something. While you spent your time being leagues ahead and not putting anything out there, he was producing stuff. People will accept freaking sketches of stickpeople as long as there's something resembling a story to go along with the sketches of stickpeople. The artwork is only the descriptive medium used to convey the story. More technically proficient artwork is preferable, but not at the cost of production. The less you produce, the more you'll have to be just that much better you'll have to be from a technical level.

Also, consider that, for whatever reason, supporters support artists that they personally like regardless of their actual skill level. The people that supports, say, thunt (goblins), actually *LIKE* him as a person for the most part. They grew to like him over the years due to his producing a comic and interacting with his fans and followers.

Source: I used to work as a colorist on a webcomic that did pretty well but flamed out at a critical moment about ten years ago for a variety of reasons.

>>89967134
>Retards who don't realize they are being bilked for 5 bucks a month because they liked something one time.
They know, they just don't care. People are very loose with their disposable income. They will throw away their money and be entirely happy getting next to nothing for it. It's a very sophisticated panhandling system.

Honestly it just makes me think how many homeless could be benefiting instead. thousands of dollars to fund shitty webcomics and porn games the creators don't even need the money to make just seems like a horrible injustice

>>89968151
The thing is it's not actually about talent, it's about popularity. People have awful taste and nothing can ever be done to fix it. Improving your skill will earn you nothing, whoring yourself to the lowest common denominator however will make you rich.

>>89968151
Yup, like the saying goes "The customer is always right." You could make the next Mona Lisa and it'd probably only get 2 likes on Facebook and a spam comment unless you give them what they want

>>89992716
>people earning money because they put in effort to provide a content and service other people are willing to pay for is a horrible injustice, because the content creators aren't dirt poor so therefore they don't "need it"

Why aren't you donating all your extra money to the homeless, anon? You could easily cut going to the movies, only own 4 pairs of anything from the Goodwill or wal-mart, buy the cheapest kind of groceries, plan your spending, live frugally, and I'm sure you could donate a huge chunk of your paycheck to them. It's a horrible injustice if you don't, you know.

>>89993441
Homeless people should start patreons and sketch some pencil drawings to get back on their feet. Just sign up at their local library and get some easy tumblrbux

>>89990269
>then again i post like one thing every 6-12 months
So then you're not "leagues ahead" because they're miles ahead of you in terms of discipline, producing volume, steady update schedule, building reputation and brand value and reminding people they exist etc

It doesn't matter how good you supposedly are if you don't actually put in the time and effort to regularly produce and upload stuff. You're whining that it's unfair you're not getting money for literally fucking doing nothing just for "having talent".

>>89967177
If you like and consume the content they produce you can pay for it, regardless of how much they're earning. Paying for entertainment you consume and content you value isn't some welfare operation dependent on people's income levels, anon.

If they manage to create a very popular product, this naturally results in them making more money, as is right and just.

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>>89993485
They'd actually make shitloads of money. It'd be so cool to support a literal starving artist like that. Imagine, someone drawing lewds on commission while actually living on the street, you could feel like a good person for paying money for your porno.
>"Id' rather draw sex for money than have to have sex for money know what I'm saying pls commission me"

Of course they'd actually have to be somewhat good, but.
Or they could start a quirky-cute "I'm so depressed and adult life is hard" webcomic about actual problems one faces while being a hobo
I'd pay for that, if the humor was on point

>>89993441
But anon, I do. l've donated to childrens international, partnership for the homeless, a couple of artist patreons, I've had periods of unemployement that have taught me the best options for cheap food, I buy like 5 articles of clothing a year just to replace whatever's worn out, and who the fuck buys movie tickets when you can pirate.

Really im just upset QC of all things gets ten grand a month

>>89993518
Popular things have an awful tendency to suck though. Many times the amount of money funding it has an inverse impact on the quality. Its the strange paradox of consumerism

>Every comic is ensuring us the relationship is fine and perfect

Something smells

>>89994128
>who the fuck buys movie tickets when you can pirate
People who want to pay content creators for the entertainment they consume

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>who the fuck buys movie tickets when you can pirate
>Donates to Patreons

>>89994182
>I don't like this which means it doesn't deserve success
so what? A lot of people are a bit stupid, simple, and have simple taste. Such is life and the nature of mankind. If they choose to give money to mediocre stuff because it caters to them and they get enjoyment off it, they can do that.

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>>89966811
Did he find a way?

>>89994344
Well you cant actually pirate a fair amount of patreon exclusives. It is sound logic for a cheapskate

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>>89988711
>Is it any good?

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>>89967147

Woah, woah, woah.
QC is written by a dude?

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>>89995080
how dare you to assume that person gender!?

>>89995080
Did you just assume his gender???

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>>89983394

>Naah, we don't live in a perfect world unfortunately....

>>89995080
>QC is written by a dude?
>dude
if I had two bullets and got the chance to shoot hitler, stalin or you, I'll shoot you twice.

>>89993441
>Why aren't you donating all your extra money to the homeless, anon?
Not him but in the last week I've probably handed food to beggars 5 times. Who the fuck are you.

>>89994128
>and who the fuck buys movie tickets when you can pirate
people who don't like camrips and enjoy going to the movies because we aren't socially fucking retarded like you

>>89985442
>the 'I'm moving to Canada' horseshit
I never understood that. All I hear is "WAH WE LOST SO I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE!"

No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are lazy and lack conviction.

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>>89975386

>get introduced to a cute girl
>be told straight up that the girl is in fact a pre-op tranny
>get to know her as we hang out over the weeks
>find myself attracted to her
>we fool around one night after drinking too much
>pants come off
>penis
>nope

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>>89986443
>gauges better than nose ring

>>89985664
Why the hell is this so popular? This is your fault somehow /co/, I know it

>>89994383
Is """"her""""" AU self female that identifies as male?

>>89994383
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/KeitAi

>>89995625
Actually, /co/ completely ignored QC until Claire came out. It's weird, the thing is super popular by webcomic standards but none of the "main" sites (4chan, reddit, etc) ever had a huge following for it.

Super fast update rates and continuity of some sort no matter the content seem to be the winning formula for getting a popular webcomic.

>>89995693
I'm not surprised. When it comes to /co/, most anons only care if it's hot or horrible. Anything in-between is sort of 'meh.' There isn't really anything /co/ likes that gets as much attention as QC and the likes

>>89995598
gay

>>89968104
>85% of something is better than 100% of nothing

Goddamn communist.

>>89970122
"anything I don't like is destructive to society"
Fuck, /pol/ you've really let yourself go ever since Trump got in. Are you feeling alright?

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>>89979121

Yes, though I can't find the other strip that also supports this. Hard to tell if he's joking or not.

>>89979387

El Wrongo.

>>89995421
>Not him but in the last week I've probably handed food to beggars 5 times.

You must have good luck. All I get from them when offering food is threats of violence and accusations i'm with the GMO Illuminati.

>>89995333
>not giving hitler the gun and telling him to shoot both of you
Amateur hour.

>>89970195
as opposed to what, screwing in the same three screws for 40 years (AKA a nice wholesome manufacturing job)?