Captain America: Sam Wilson #19 storytime

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>>89952293
Thanks for the recap Twitter

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>>89952330
Sam, we just got a recap page, why are you still recapping?

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>>89952371
STOP RECAPPING

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>>89952410

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>>89952454
>Public defender
Even if he doesn't want Avengers money, surely SOMEBODY would do such a high-profile case pro bono. Would he refuse that too?

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>>89952488

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>>89952529
Come to think of it, isn't Matt Murdock in the D.A.'s office now? Why didn't Sam talk to him?

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>>89952561
>A nearly all-white jury in a majority-minority city
Is this that common in real life?

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>>89952596

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>>89952639
Is anybody reading?

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>>89952668
>We
Sam, you were not an Avenger at any point during Rage's tenure

I haven't been keeping up. Why do the Americops have any jurisdiction?

Aren't they vigilantes?

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>>89952702
>Inadmissible
I knew this would happen. Let's face it, the footage literally comes from a bird's brain.

>>89952733
The are now privatized security with special police powers contracted by the city.

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>>89952739
>Boomerang snitches on Speed Demon
kek

>>89952733
The Americops are now a sanctioned private police force. The original vigilante Americop died years ago.

>>89952668
Is it wrong that "big bald black guy in a yellow shirt" just makes me think he's Luke

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>>89952769

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>>89952805
How strong are these pigeons if they can lift up an adult man?

>>89952739
In a world were incredibly high quality holograms, LMD's, Shapeshifters and various other tricks exist, courts not entirely trusting video evidence around supers actually makes sense.

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>>89952834

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>>89952877

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>>89952914
>Panel 4
WHAT THE FUCK?

>>89952956
this shit gets drawn months before it's released, doesn't it?

>>89952857
also it's psychic bird vision routed through Sam's brain and then converted to video

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>>89952956
>>89952978
They should have kept him in shadow then

>>89952834
gamma pigeons?

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>>89952996

>>89952996
he is

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>>89953029
IT BEGINS

>>89953029
jeez Nick

>>89952877
>guess what they all had in common

someone connected to them was betrayed Boomerang?

>>89953066
BOOM!!!

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>>89953066
And that's that, hope you enjoyed
Next time: RIOTS

>>89953029
No, not Bank. NOT BANK

>>89953030
No he isn't, that's clearly Obama, you can see his face, no shadow >>89952956

>>89953128
It was a race joke

>>89952488
That's the point. The fact that he's famous is the only reason it's a high-profile case. All the non-famous innocent people don't get super-lawyers. They get this guy.

>>89952769
>Calling favors from Frank
Honestly I know he respects Wilson but no way in hell is he going to do jack and shit for him, even against cops who may/may not be corrupt in his eyes.

Also I can't wait for Frank to flip out once the world learns Steve is Hydra.

>>89952596
As common as anything else. It would all depend on how good a lawyer you have, during Jury Selection.

He has a public defender.

Who are often brave and noble people, worked too hard and underfunded.

Because they aren't underfunded and overworked, a decent prosecutor could run rings around them, and stack the jury to their own advantage.

Which is, again, part of Rage's point that he's making.

Thanks, OP.

>>89953244
I dunno, I think even Frank wouldn't want an innocent man jailed.

Then again, it would mean he could just find the guy who walked free and Frank him himself.

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>>89952914

>>89952639
So are the Cobra Cops actual people? They look mind controlled at best and like robots at worst.

>>89953414
This incarnation of Americops are a private security force, so they're probably real people. A lot of them seem to be assholes though.

>>89952978
The presence of Obama is due to Marvel ordering rewrites to the arc because it started around the time BLM started murdering cops, causing the end part of the story being delayed until the media shitstorm regarding the BLM murders died down.

Also would not be shocked if Rages martyr act was part of the rewrite in terms of downplaying him being arrested

>>89953068
Too poor to hire a decent lawyer.

>>89952561
So. Tights aren't allowed. But "uniforms" that completely cover faces are a-ok? I hate this shit, and I have no dog in the race race.

>>89952956
This story started months ago.

What's with all these people that think comic stories run in real time?

>>89953459
>due to Marvel ordering rewrites to the arc
Source: your ass

>>89953459
>>89953498
>BLM murdering cops
He's already demonstrated that, yes.

>>89953492
because their precious god emperor can rewrite spacetime through memes

>>89952996
>>89953029
>>89953066
How does attacking a bank help at all
How does attacking anything help at all

>>89953688
It doesn't, that's the whole point. Just like BLM protesters wrecking shit doesn't help at all even though they do have a point about police brutality.

>>89952371
Last panel is him getting the brain implant for bird NSA, yeah?

>>89953688
A police station would've made more sense, but people do dumb shit when they're pissed off.

>>89953688
Burning down buildings in your own neighborhood is a proud protesting tradition. Why John Adams once crafted an immaculate log cabin only for George Washington to set torch to it in the face of a British dignitary.

>>89953688
the jews

>>89953800
If nobody in your neighborhood owns those buildings or businesses, if they're just profiting from them while contributing nothing, then why should you care if they get burnt down?

>>89952739
See this is why Spider-Man just webs guys to lamp-posts and leaves. He doesn't want to get into the legal quandary of whether or not Spider-Sense can be used for probable cause,

>>89953482
That's not at all what this page is saying. He's just telling Sam not to interrupt the trial.

>>89952803
That's good distinctive look, so not really.

>>89952769
Who are the folks in the bar? I recognize none of them.

>>89954053
>his distinctive look

>>89952805
>>89952834
>Hey guys remember Superior Foes?

The writing is shit, but does the art have to be so god damn inconsistent?

>>89952330

>They only mention Speed Demon entering and leaving the shop

Did he carry Marko?

>>89952330

Aw, damn, it's the Poser artist from the Misty issue.

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>>89953244
Sam allowed Frank to kidnap a corrupt politician at the end of Robinson run of the punisher, the one that took place in L.A, Spencer is referencing that.

>>89952293
I can't think of the Americops without thinking of the Jerkops.

>>89954134

Yeah, me neither.

Could just be OC filler bad guys.

>>89952293
I'm sorry but that cover legit looks like the movie poster for Hancock.

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>>89954622
>>89952293

>Write monthly issues for comics
>Have an opportunity to comment on social issues in a timely way
>Rather than putting in the effort to both tell a good story and do justice for the social issue, instead resort to limp metaphors like >>89952529

This will never not annoy me. I don't mind SJW in my comics, but I hate poorly written SJW in my comics.

Maybe it's just me, but this comic seems to be repeating itself over and over again. I could pick any number and it will show the same thematic and almost no development.

Also, thanks op for your time posting this.

>>89952769
>So yeah. This guy.

>>89954670
Hold up

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Never 4get

>>89953353
First thing that came to my mind. Bless you anon.

>>89954671
They don't see the other side anon. They just see themselves as right and the other guys as wrong. No one seems to be willing to understand the opposing viewpoint anymore.

>>89953688

He's chimping out. If he attacked a police station, he'd be shot.

Also, this whole arc establishes Sam as arguably the worst Captain America so far.

>>89952596
>Is this that common in real life?
No. Maybe if you count hispanics and asians as white people.

Black people are very underrepresented in jury pools though. Much of this is because many of them don't trust the state and refuse to serve.

>>89952733
Private security guards with a city contract, and a massive dose of comic book magic so they don't have to go after real police in the storyline..

In real life, the NYPD union would have gone full Serpico mode before this happened.

>>89953244
>>89952769
>Also I can't wait for Frank to flip out once the world learns Steve is Hydra.
Whut?

>>89952980
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>89953256
Public defenders are like the EMTs of the legal profession, dealing with all sorts of fucked up trainwrecks. But prosecutors are funded by the state, and some states really skimp on their funding too. This, of course is NYC, so none of that here.

But more realisitcally a bunch of public defender work is on a volunteer basis. You would have some serious legal firepower jumping at the chance for this case.

>>89955333
>I can't tell if you're joking or not.
It is 100% true.

>You would have some serious legal firepower jumping at the chance for this case.
Yeah, but Rage doesn't want any of that. He wants to get a crappy Public Defender, just like any poor black kid would get. He wants to make a point.

>>89955316
What should he have done, then?

>>89955333
If Rage wasn't famous, if he didn't know Sam Wilson, the case would never have made the news as big as it has. The video wouldn't exist. He'd just be an innocent black youth arrested by the police for a crime he didn't commit...while said crime, and the case against him, would get no attention.

Nobody would be lining up to represent him.

Again, part of Rage's point.

>>89953414
The writer wants to tell a story about police oppression.

Of course, this being comics, they might actually be mind controled or robots or whatever.

Does anyone not an asshole or evil use a load of law enforcment robots in comics? At least Judge Dredd or better? Repaint those big purple robots that are always fucking up the mutants and stick them on a shitty streetcorner in New Jersey or

>>89953688
This part is actually very grounded in reality. Rioters fuck up shit just because it's there.


>>89954459
What did he ever do to the guy? I remember reading it, and then frank and falcon were fighting, and then... it just sort of puttered out.

>>89955408
>>89955451
That's the thing. He doesn't get to choose a public defender. It's not like he can refuse volunteer court appointed public defenders until he got one crappy enough for whatever retarded political statement he's trying to make.

>>89952877

>Dude I don't even vote

>He thinks Sam's about to beat his ass about not!Trump becoming President.

>>89955634
>That's the thing. He doesn't get to choose a public defender. It's not like he can refuse volunteer court appointed public defenders until he got one crappy enough for whatever retarded political statement he's trying to make.

Exactly his point. He didn't pick that guy. That's who he got. That's who a non-famous him might have gotten. He didn't have to do anything abnormally self-destructive...aside from insist he was innocent, not take a plea bargain (because he's innocent), and let the system play out.

>>89953752
>>89952980
>>89955408

How much video footage of bird porn is there in his head? I want to know...for science.

>>89954671
Spencer isn't an SJW, he's just a liberal.

>>89954671
Have you considered the possibility that this is literally what happens in RL? It's not a metaphor. If there is a metaphor here it is rage since his power makes him practically a walking personification of exactly this dude is talking about.
Black children are automatically interpreted as several years older than they actually are so they get treated as such by law enforcement. If he looked his actual age he would get the exact same argument being used against him. Then it moves onto the character assassination where everyone ignores that even if everything was true that does not make the treatment of him any less illegal and unjustified by the letter of the law.

>>89952769

The funny thing is, had he started from the get to with the 'let's find the real baddies' this woulda ended a lot differently. Why did he wait until the trial was literally starting to go find them?

>>89953688
Breaking news!
Angry people break stuff!
You act like it wasn't just publicly blatantly proven that expecting the legal system do do anything was complete bullshit. Law, justice, and civilization only work because of the expectation that we will be civilized to each other and rage just proved his point that one "side" isn't holding up that end of the bargain.

>>89955921
Depending on the season and the city's pigeon population mating habits, anywhere between 30-60% bird snuff, all mainlined into his cerebral cortex and then recorded for posterity

>>89956220

I agree that if you're in a consistently unfair system, at some point the only thing that makes sense is civil disobedience as doing thing "by the book" won't bear any fruit. That said...I hope these same angry people that are shafted by the system actually show up to vote in order to change the system.

>>89956220
But why a bank, why not like a court or something? A bank just seems like more of a dick move to the average citizen than the government.

>>89956390
He's a kid who's angry and confused and decided in a moment of passion to smash up what he considers the first place of authority he saw, he's not exactly acting logically.

>>89956390
Banks are absolutely an institution of The System, they're part of The Man. Plus, most banks are pretty much empty by early evening ("Banking Hours" being such a thing that it's part of the vernacular), so it was a safer target (in terms of not wanting to hurt people) than a police station or a courthouse (which both have a lot of people working well into the night) or whatever.

Or he could just live a lot closer to a bank than a cop/judge institution.

>>89952596
"I aints gots times to serve on no jurrry!"

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>>89955953
>he's just a liberal.

>>89957304
America's strange belief that the word equates with "communist child-eater" continues to baffle the rest of the world.

>>89957304
Just because all SJWs are liberals doesn't mean all liberals are SJWs. It's like saying that anyone whose a conservative is alt-right or a christian fundamentalist.

>>89956390
It's just a random place he stopped at. BUT if you want me to do a thought experiment I can do so.

In my country one branch of segregation was tied to economic enforcement. So the wealthy business owners and banks would get literally together to conspire about how best to take down any uppity negroes with the banks in particular being the enforcement arm holding a nuclear option. They were known colloquially as The Forty Thieves.
As in the US, land ownership was tied to voting rights and general stability for the black population. Everyone had a mortgage in an attempt to get said voting rights and general stability. This meant that the bank could call in the mortgage at any time and yoink everything you worked for from you for your whole life if you or members of your family(extended) got uppity. This was also true in the US but far more effective where I'm from since I'm in a small island nation while in the US you could at least skip town. This was so effective that the initial protests/boycotts of the civil rights movement were all organized anonymously like they being hunted by the gestapo.It was so effective that one of the prominent civil rights leaders was a wealthy immigrant doctor specifically because he was one of the only people that couldn't get fucked over by the current system for rebelling. He could just leave anytime he wanted and be done since he had no family for them to go after.
Now in the US their solution was to make their own banks/towns which worked out nicely until whites got mad at negros being successful and traditionally riot/genocide the entire town into dust. Banks still unfairly treat black people when it comes to loans/etc. So a bank doesn't mean the same thing to a black person as to a white person. To a black person, a bank is one of many things that have legitimately been out to get them for centuries. So it makes a nice target not as full of people that will shoot him to death for existing.

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>>89952596
Here is what really happens.
You go to a courtroom and the two lawyers pick people like they're picking a softball team.
Everyone not picked gets to go home.
Pretty much what happens is the defense attorney picks young white people because the black defendant is also young while the prosecuting attorney picks old white people who are likely to still use the word "negro".
Ironically all the old ladies can't bare the thought of convicting anyone to a jail sentence and have the memory of a goldfish.
While the young people say
>Here is the weapon found on his person.
>Here are the stolen goods also found on his person.
>Here is his interview with the police.
>He is a violent criminal, open fucking shut case.

>>89952488
No joke, public defenders are crazy overworked and underfunded, it's a travesty of justice. I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>89952561
Seriously, judges needing to be 'tough on crime' and giving out much higher sentences during election years is another huge problem with the American Justice system. Who's writing this issue, is it a different guy? He's batting like a 600.

>>89952834
Maybe they are African pigeons .

>>89958252
It's extra fun when said judges keep getting caught taking bribes from the prisons to keep them filled and nothing is done to reexamine the thousands of cases fucked over by that.
Nope . Nothing suspicious with your judge turning out to have been getting massive bribes from prison to keep you locked in juvie and pound me in the ass prison since you were 12 despite him favoring the prosecution.

>>89958433
This movie has some pretty good advice
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lbOtyWTRZ_g

>>89953098
>The Fallout
More like, The Chimpout.

>>89959249
That is some pretty good advice. Now if only the judges doing that would listen to it. Or we you actually outraged at the children who were being sent to jail by a corrupt judge instead?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
I believe this is a different case, but It's still relevant.

>>89954670
Man, the first half of Hancock was great.

Shame it crapped the bed in the second half with the whole "soul mates" thing.

>>89954366
Unzueta's a better artist on the book than Acuna. And this comes from someone who is a big fan of Acuna...

More importantly Unzueta actually fucking draws Americop right in terms of the mask only covering the face. Acuna gets it completely wrong and draws it as a hood.

Anyone wishing Spencer would have said fuck it and done a lengthy trial arc that abandons ALL pretense of seriousness for the sake of providing SOME levity before we start the grim dark Secret Empire story?

They could have done the follow:

1. The Americops turn out to be Jamie Maddrox: the businessman who owns the Americops kidnapped Jamie before Death of X and brainwashed him/roided him and his dupes up to serve as the Americops.

2. The prosecutor turns out to be Speedball (Rage's former BFF)'s dad and is actively trying to throw the case because he secretly has cancer and wants to win back his son Speedball's love before dying by getting his friend off.

3. The original Americop turns out to be alive and shows up with She-Hulk in toe to sue the guy who stole his gimmick and reveal Jamie has been brainwashed into becoming the new Americops.

4. We get a "Oh no.... We Drew Judge Synder" moment with the Judge, who is blatently racist and doesn't even try and hide the fact that he hates Sam Wilson.

5. Firestar and Justice doing the whole "Mecha-Sheeva" bit from Venture Brothers, complete with Rage yelling at them just like Monarch did Hank and Dean ("I held my tongue when Vance said he could read Sumarian but Mecha-Shiva? LIARS!!!!")

6. Rich Rider revealing himself to the world being upstaged by the reveal that Americop and Jamie Maddrox are alive.

7. Rage finding himself driven to madness by SJW/BLM types protesting for him at his trial, causing to snap and scream "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!" and other shock statements, simply because he desperately wants to go to jail to make his point and ends up getting convicted, not because he's black but because he said Hitler did nothing wrong.

God this is terrible.

>>89952639
Can someone explain why the Americops are testifying while masked?

Most of the times, if there are situations where cops have to testify and there are fears regarding their safety and shit, they simply empty the court room gallery so no one can see their faces.

>>89954671
>but I hate poorly written SJW in my comics.
Leftists exist in their own alternate reality where they still believe the blacks and gays are routinely oppressed by evil right-wing governments and institutions. It's the only way they can function. It's why Spencer routinely blocks anyone on twitter who throws a fact in his face about why his entire belief system is wrong.

>>89952561
Matt can't help because he's already helping keep Sam's illegal immigrant sidekick from being deported.

>>89953414
Ironically, there could have been a better take on the story had they made the Americops robots and not faceless Chads in leathmen outfits.

Robot cops being used by private security in poor neighborhoods where flesh and blood police are being shot at and being killed/spit upon. Sold to the public as a way to bring justice to the city while giving the blacks what they want in the worse possible way in term of non-white cops. Except the robots are super powered and slaves to the law, in that they mercilessly carry out their job with no compassion or understanding. Broken windows policy on steroids.

Falcon would be against them but there would be the notion that they are getting shit done and also, the luddite anti-tech angle as there would be people who are terrified for the moment that the Ameribots go rogue and start killing humans or real cops who try and stop the Ameribots for fear that they will take their jobs

>>89963576
And /co/ will defend it.

>>89952371
this art is awful. why does the bottom panel look so bad?

>>89952769
So Punisher knows a bar full of criminals and doesn't just bomb the place? Civilians work there or something?

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>>89963656

This. Even comics have become this SJW shit show how innocent black people with superpowers fight against evil nazi white people.

>>89964062
Last time he tried to massacre a bar full of costumed villains, he failed miserably and the only thing he pulled off was to blind Princess Python and horribly burn the Gibbon

>>89964425
What if he called himself the All-New, All-Different Scourge of the Underworld?

>>89964471
Hood already did that and Fran was forced to burn his family (that the Hood resurrected) alive out of spite.

>>89963656
Congress literally started proposing discrimnatory laws against gay people. Were you living under a rock? Sure there is no lynching or anything of the like happening but people are getting fucked by the homophobic establishment.

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>>89953646
Spencer's precog powers are fine.

>>89952330
>black guy named rage
And they wonder why theyre treated like shit

>>89966347
Such as?

>>89953256
Wait what? The jury is picked by the defense, and not just randomly?

>>89953029
>>89953066
>stupid kid with a legitimate grievance decides to chimp out and attacks something completely unrelated to the thing that made him mad
Huh. Surprisingly accurate

>>89967937
Google 'Jury selection'.

>>89953826
Damn right

>>89956446
That is correct

>>89953029
That scrunched up face makes him more niggerdly

>>89967811
Rage is an actual superhero though. Well, WAS, until Cap forced him to quit since he's actually 12.

>>89968477

Cap has a real hang up about kid superheroes after that whole Bucky thing.

>>89953029

Oh God, he's put on yellowface. He's going to blame it on the Chinese.

THIS IS A HATE CRIME.

>>89952488
>I want them to see how this system railroads us
By intentionally fucking up your own trial?

>>89952454
Why is he wearing the mask in court?

>>89969829
Who knows. At least it's off during the actual trial >>89952561

>>89969366
Exactly. He is going to get tried like a non-superhero. Martyr complex.

>>89953098
>Comics tab is selected
>Not Politics

>>89957966

What country are you from?

>>89972758
Bermuda.

It's bizarre how different this book is to the Steve Rogers one
In that the Rogers one has quality writing while this is just ideologue spewing bullshit

>>89953842
Even if your neighbours don't own the building they still work there and burning down the places they work at and looting just puts them out of work while the owners do an insurance claim.

>Be Falcon
>Try to use illegally obtained footage of an event that may be of the case (masks mean it could be actors) as evidence
>blame racism when it's ruled inadmissable

I hate everything about this comic.

>>89952668
>>89952702
>Parade of character witnesses
No Judge would allow that, when only one or two is enough to get the point across.
Even more, no competent attorney would allow that unless it was absolutely ALL they had, because the prosecution would cross-examine them and bring up ANY bad action, making them look worse.
>Oh, you say he's honest, but did you know he once lied on a job application?