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Why is he the best antagonist, to have graced animated television in recent years?
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>>89935404
Is it because he animates the dead?
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when the fog of life surrounds you
when you feel you've lost your way
come with me and join the forest
come with me and join the fray
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>>89935404
He's voiced by Ron Perlman.
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>>89935465
Goddamnit. I forgot this guy existed. Such a creepy villain, in such a relatively bright world.
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>>89935486
He is? I should watch this show. Ron does great villains.
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>>89935530
>Over The Garden Wall
>relatively bright world
Were we watching the same cartoon?
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>>89935404
His lack of emotion on his face and very minimal dialogue. It dehumanizes him and makes him more intimidating and awesome.
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>>89935676
He's not in many episodes (8?), and doesn't turn up until the season 2 finale. You should watch it anyway though.
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>>89935738
Hey, if you ignore the fact that the main characters are probably dead, children are turned into trees and chopped down for their oil in order to sustain an eldritch horror, and the whole setting quite likely being limbo or the afterlife, then it seems rather bright.. That, That all came out darker than I had thought.
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>>89935676
His speeches are the best part, really. They are completely badass, and just convey how alien, and completely evil he is, compared to the rest of the cast.
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>>89935404
>Why is he the best antagonist

What did he even do to earn that?

He hasn't amounted to much over the course of the show.
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>>89935404
He's just an inferior Aku in every respect. Love Ron Perlman, though.
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>>89936026
In his very few appearances, he has solidified his status as being a completely, and utterly remorseless big bad. He doesn't play around, nor has a massive idiot ball. He just gets right down to business. Listen to his speeches, they really convey just how dead set he is on his goal.
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>>89936055
Aku, however hasn't gone out of his way to try and mass genocide the multiverse. He also has several chances to kill Jack, but because of the fact that he can't even do anything without stabbing his 'allies' in the back, as well as himself, he always fails. Even when victory is a hairs breadth away. The Litch doesn't suffer from this 'fault'. This doesn't mean that I hate Aku, though. He's a great villain, and manages to be terrifying when he wants to be.
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>>89936289
The Lich's goal is similarly self-defeating; once he kills everything, there'll be nothing left to kill.
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>>89936369
Please, there's always more to kill, once you travel to one end of the universe life pops up in the next, eternal wackamole seems like a fun existence.
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>>89935941
heres a couple good scenes with the lich
>>>/wsg/1545207
>>>/wsg/1545210
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>>89936369
Life will inevitably rise up again, one day. It's kinda persistent that way. All the Lich has to do is wait.
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>>89936717
>>89936416
Azathoth dreams of life and all that.
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>>89935676
Oh yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A3fc5qo2aA
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>>89936416
>>89936369
Remember the speech from Gold Star? I think the Lich wants to return to the time of nothing. His inaction in Prismo's lair was a taste of what would happen. Having destroyed everything, the lich would simply go catatonic, knowing contentment in oblivion. He enjoys killing, but it's the same way a farmer enjoys harvesting. He's still glad when the job is done.
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>>89936999
>Jake wakes
>NOPE
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>>89937138
Shall we agree to disagree in our interpretations?

>>89936992
Related topic: Is the Lich Lovecraftian?
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>>89935404
Yeah but then they made him a baby
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>>89937389
He'll be back.
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>>89937389
But it worked because he's death and he got trapped in life. Don't you get

P O T T E R Y
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>>89935404
He was best because they didn't over-use him, and they played him straight. No jokes. Completely serious straight-up evil.
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>>89935404
Define recent years. Is AKU too far back.
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>>89937567
Aku is the best because he is literally everything you could want out of a villian
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>>89937504
The very first think written about hte character in the bible was "The Lich King is not funny." Penn had it right from the start.
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>>89936992
do you happen to have the source for the line? google gives me nothing and I find it kind of beautiful
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>>89937280
>Is the Lich Lovecraftian?
I don't know about that, perhaps in his relentlessness.
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>>89935404
No, EMH had great adaptations of comic villains
If you wanna go Original that's VV Argost from Secret Saturdays
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>>89939957
>If you wanna go Original that's VV Argost from Secret Saturdays
I can't believe someone else knows and understands.
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>>89936369
Reminds me of a choose your own adventure story where you can become a Lich. Has that as the final outcome.
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>>89935404
Because simple evil for evil sake villains just don't fly anymore. Either you get watered down villains or you get a villain with motivations that are fairly weak. PURE EVIL INCARNATE also can really only exist in a fantasy series like adventure time as a contrast to the GOOD Finn represents. The Lich's origins remain clouded in the bombs that fell that lead to the end of the world also helps his case quite a bit too. I really hope they never over explain the Lich he doesn't need it. Especially by this stage in the series.
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>>89937567
Who would win in a fight, Aku or the Lich?
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>>89936999
So throwing cum on lich brings them back to life?
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Does anyone have the Mega with all episodes?
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>>89942597

holy shit. this might be the greatest thing ever.
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>this looks and sounds interesting
>it's Adventure Time

Never mind.
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>>89943144
If you think it looks interesting just watch it.
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>>89935404

You're delusional
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>>89942681
For that amount you're better off with torrents.
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>>89937138
I never got the impression that the Lich has such human motivation or desires. He is the embodiment of genocide, born from atomic apocalypse. He doesn't choose to destroy in the same way that rain doesn't choose to fall. It's his nature. That's why he went catatonic in Prismo's dimension; the Lich is incapable of any though or action beyond genocide.

That's also why he's such a scary character. He cannot be reformed or reasoned with because his actions aren't the result of a decision in the first place. The lich simply acts according to his nature.
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>>89943144
>judges Adventure Time a bad cartoon
>uses a Homestuck reaction image
Sure, dude.
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>>89943306
Zaheer's plan was fatally flawed. Basically, he overestimated the common man and woman. When he told Ba Sing Sei to rule itself, it immediately exploded into a vortex of chaos, looting and destruction, and, if the show was allowed to be darker, probably rape and murder. Actually, most of the Earth kingdom did this, and it took a coordinated army to get things under control again, which is what the arc proceeding Zaheer's was about. Zaheer lived in a fantasy world of ideals and daydreams, not in reality.

I'm not saying he was a bad antagonist, he was quite interesting, but he wasn't the best.
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>>89943758
>Thinks sbahj only exists as part of Homestuck

Yeah okay dude
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>>89943832

Actually, I think that's what makes him interesting.

He's basically the deconstruction of an ideological edgelord
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>>89943832
Zaheer was retarded. The purpose of the Red Lotus was to transform the Avatar into one who would maintain the NWO of disorder. He corrupted the organization's purpose by assuming that humanity would stay disorganized. Zaheer was an opportunist little bitch who couldn't handle another generation of the Red Lotus carrying out the mission.
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>>89935404
Honestly, I think he's kind of boring really. Like, he was a credible and serious threat the first or second times he showed up. Every other time after those, my reaction was basically, "Oh, it's this guy again."
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>>89935404
>Why is he the best antagonist, to have graced animated television in recent years?
Because of Ronald Fucking Perlman
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>>89935465
Come wayward Souls,

Who wander through the darkness,

There is a light for the lost and the meek

Sorrow and fear,

Are easily forgotten,

When you submit to the soil of the earth
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