yfw

>>89898981
Has it ever been brought up again since that Jason and Hush know each other?

>>89898981
thats actually a good costume for him if he never decided to go the Red Hood route, but I do like his current repurposed nightwing suit he starts with in the New52

>>89899144
This isn't even still in continuity, is it?

Hush should have been Jason Todd.

>>89899144
I think Hush should have died during that storyline, Simply because any other appearance cant live up to the Hush Storyline

>>89899183
I felt that he was a good Antithesis to Bruce Wayne/Batman as a whole package

>>89898981
I remember how people went crazy after this page was revealed.

>>89899209

This is a dumb post considering Hush is garbage and Heart of Hush is fantastic

>>89899176
Probably not.
Jason Todd's continuity is a mess, the poor guy.

>>89899254
Tell me more.

>>89899258
Taking a walking continuity bomb hostage probably doesn't help.

>>89899258
It's not any worse than literally most of comic characters and Lobdell is actually doing a good job fixing it.

>>89899283
This was around the height of resurrecting characters when this comic came out the saying was "The only characters who stay dead are Bucky Barnes, Jason Todd and Uncle Ben"

>>89899311
To my knowledge, it's one of the most changed and retconned characters, even inside relatively stable timelines and with the same writers.

But I'm not an expert in DC stuff, not ven the Batfamily. So I may be wrong.

>>89898981
What a shitty story this was. Thinking about it now, everything involving Hush is garbage.

>>89899362
The issue comes with them not deciding "What" Jason Todd is. I think when he returned, writers wanted him to be a villain, today they want him to be either an anti-hero or nightwing with guns.

>>89899362
Nigga you don't know donna troy, NOW THAT IS ANOTHER STORY

>>89899410
It was a story of its time, thinking back Justice League Tower of Babel was a terrible story

>>89899314
You forgot the waynes, its also funny that bucky came after hush

>>89899283
Many fans were pretty sure that Hush was Jason Todd and there's was retailer who talked about how this issue was sold so fast. I even know some marvel who never read DC and picked up this issue because JASON FREAKING TODD IS BACK. It was really a crazy time.

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>>89899362
>To my knowledge, it's one of the most changed and retconned characters
You'd be right, even now Lobdell's method of fixing his and other writers "mistakes" where the character is concerned is just to ignore what people don't like.

>>89899414
Yes, yes, I know her. You're right.
Forget what I said.
>>89899411
I vote for self aware, stubborn, short tempered, fucked up anti hero with a sense of black humour, if it counts. That may not be original, but it could be fun to read without being exasperating.

>>89899484
If each of the Batbrats get one aspect of Batman, I want him to have Bat's meticulous planning, with no self-limits.

>>89899435
Jason appearing was one of the reasons that made Hush very popular story and probably also the reason that made DC decide to bring him back to raise Batman sales.

>>89899537
You mean crazy prepared? Not a bad aspect, given that he's cannot compete with the other robins in other aspects.
But then, that could also be Damian's gimmick, couldn't it?

>>89899570
This story also included the hint that he wasn't still dead, didn't it? They were keeping their options open.

>>89899619
If I'm remembering right his coffin was empty when Bruce investigated.

>>89899665
That was Under the Hood I think.

>>89899591
Damian's more of a manipulator, consciously or otherwise, combined with his hand to hand combat skills. I also think he makes better use of basic gadgets.

>>89899440

There was nothing wrong with him having red hair. He actually looked different from the others.

>>89899701
The movie had a fake in the coffin, switched before the viewing.

>>89899435
>>89899570
>He was a controversialas Robin
>His death is one of the most important moments in DC
>His return boosted sales
>He was a character that hardly anyone besides hardcore comic fans
>Now he's insanely popular

I'm seeing Jason Todd in different way today.

>>89899770
What do you means?

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>>89899735
Yeah, and it was empty in the comic version.

>>89899727
Red hair was fine, Morrison using it to make him the literal red haired psychotic step child was not.

>>89899727
That could give more foil to the JaySon fags.

Jocking.

>>89899805
Let's just say that I have underestimated him, but I realized my mistake.

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>>89899311

My only real beef with the Dark Trinity arc is that it means Under the Hood almost certainly didn't happen, since there is no way Black Mask would work with Jason after that.

>>89899411

I liked Jason as a Gotham crimelord, controlling crime in his turf because eradicating is too difficult and let's face it, it's Gotham. At the very least they should have him fighting the mob in Gotham instead of that weird mystical warrior shit they had him doing during nu52. The less said about Morrison's Jason the better.

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>>89898981
i remember reading this back in the day and i though writers would forget about it in a year, how wrong i was

>>89899701
In the end of Hush, Batman find out that someone messed up his grave.

In UTRH, it was revealed that Batman has made two graves for him to protect his body.

>>89899987
>In UTRH, it was revealed that Batman has made two graves for him to protect his body
It always amaze me how much love Batman has for him.

>>89899987
>In UTRH, it was revealed that Batman has made two graves for him to protect his body.
He also put alarms on the coffin lid that were only triggered if you opened to open it from the outside, not the in. UtRH was lucky the movie was a lot better

>>89899987
Thanks, it's been a while.

>>89899987
He made two graves after someone messed it up or from the beginning?

>>89899428
Tower of Babel is shit because the Batman + preptime = instant win meme really stuck after that.

But a lot of stories that were loked/discussed to death when they were coming out are looked back on poorly. Identity Crisis instantly comes to mind as an example.

>>89900256
The latter. He made a one that was publicly known and another in secret where Jason's body was actually buried.

>>89900130
His love for him is one of the things stayed consist after all these years.

Has anything worth a shit come out of Jason being alive again? Morrison's stuff was ok and there's about 50 million WHY DID YOU LET ME DIE DADDY I HATE YOU AND USE GUNS NOW stories but that's it.

>>89902337
>50 million
UTRH worth 50 million? Man.

>Morrison's stuff was ok
Awful taste confirmed.

Why was the Harold asspull necessary for Hush to work?

>>89898981
Jason Todd hasn't been good since the Detective Comics 50th anniversary arc.

>>89899144

At the end of Red Hood Lost Year, after Jason fucks Talia she sets him up with a meeting with Hush.

>>89905098
I remember the story. Jason had been in some really good stories as Robin.

>>89905201
Oh yeah, I was suprised how much I liked him as Robin when I read his run.

I also really like a lot as Red Hood.

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>>89905201
but everybody hated him as robin.

>>89905356

Yea but he was supposed to be rebellious and a pain in the ass. He was an obnoxious character but not a bad one, the readers just got worked.

>>89905286
Me too.

He was interesting as Robin and very interesting as Red Hood.

>>89905356
There were 5000 people who voted for him to live. Not "everyone" hated him.

>>89905400
>He was an obnoxious character
I don't think you even know what obnoxious means.

>>89899727
I preferred the white streak for that. Or make him a blond like he actually was pre-Crisis.

>>89905471
The everyone hated him was a meme DC created to cover their assess after the backlash they got for doing the voting .

>>89905471
Jim Starlin wanted to kill Jason. He even proposed killing him in a PSA about AIDS.