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/doag/ - Dumbing of Age Gremlins

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That's us. We're the gremlins. The only difference is that we demand to be fed the Patreon-exclusive sneak-peek strip after midnight ET.

Anyways, tonight we see Amber huffing and puffing like she's actively been trying to repress her feelings about Sal despite Willis implying before that the Amber/Amazi-Girl dichotomy is one that results from DID and not simply out of playing a character as Amazi-Girl.

But whatever. I'm sure we've got more lesbians down the road. Also, I just realized that this is a school day, yet apparently Leslie never left her house.
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>>89883603
She might not have any classes or office hours scheduled for that day.

Also, SalxAmazi-Girl superhero themed S&M sex when?
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>>89883603
why is she orgasming
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>>89883636
Fair, but I feel like they should have brought that up at some point, even as an aside comment. "I've had to take a sick day because of you. I haven't been sick since the 1930s" or some shit like that.

Also, the only porn you're getting is another Billie/Ruth pin-up.
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This is the best webcomic ever
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>>89883661
She always slips a toy inside before she goes out in costume. She usually is able to hold it off until she gets back to her room but Dorothy surprised her before she finished working out the easy O so she was already halfway there when she put it on for the night.

>>89883707
I didn't mean an official porn. Something like a Yoto lewd.

On a side note it bugs me how the outside of the building is always deserted. At my dorms there were always people hanging around the entrances.
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>>89883842
>I didn't mean an official porn. Something like a Yoto lewd.
Ah.
Personally, I'm still waiting for cuck porn where Sal gets DP'd by Danny and Ethan while Amber watches from the window.

>On a side note it bugs me how the outside of the building is always deserted. At my dorms there were always people hanging around the entrances.
If you aren't a main character in the DoA universe, you simply do not exist.
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In tonight's scintillating scenario....Danny actually stands up for himself? Nah, that can't be right, let me re-read this real quick....huh. Danny actually stands up for himself. Fuckin' A. Atta boy, Dano!

Hopefully his frail backbone can withstand Amber turning into the blubbering mess that I think she's about to become.
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>>89883899
DannyxEthanxSal is OT3, but is it really cuck porn when the cuck in question is no longer in a romantic or sexual relationship with the people having sex?

Sal can't be going back into the dorms, as she's smoking and walking in the opposite direction, and she doesn't have a backpack or anything with her, is "math assignments" code for "still fucking her TA?"
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>>89883993
Even Danny has no idea how the Amber/Amazi-Girl thing works. That's nice.

Also, I see that the doors have Braille painted on them. How progressive.

Also,
>We're not friends! I don't even like her!
>B-baka!

Also, I can't wait for Willis to pretend he's an authority on anxiety now.
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>>89883993
if this was any other comic I'd say that this would lead to character development

but this is DOA so
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>>89883993
Willis is backpedaling hard on the DID thing, isn't he?

Just punch her in the face, Danny. Go on and do it. Punch her and claim your supervillain destiny. They can call you the Red Hoodie.
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>>89884157
What do you expect? After the whole breakup with Danny and her whole stalking of Sal, people aren't really in favor of this superhero shit anymore.
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>>89883993
What are the betting odds that Danny is made to look like the bad guy in comic for being concerned about her after this?
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>>89884157
>Willis is backpedaling hard on the DID thing, isn't he?

Seems that way, but a certain someone can't seem to take the hint. Everything just HAS TO fit into a neat little SJW package.

I honestly wonder how mentally exhausting it is bending over backwards to jump through all those hoops.
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>>89884298
Wasn't it Amber who broke up with Danny? She wasn't in costume or anything.
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>>89884157
>>89884298

I wonder how Cerberus will react if Willis actually dares to prove one of her headcanons false, and her favorite "Amber Has Alters Like Me!" theory to boot. Will we actually see her admit she was wrong about something?
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>>89883993
Will anyone ever actually confront Amber and tell her she has a mental disorder and needs treatment? Or is it okay to allow the mentally ill to wallow in their delusions as long as they're useful like amazi-girl?
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>>89884298
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>>89884359
>Will we actually see her admit she was wrong about something?

Yes, but then she'll blame it on one of her alters.
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>>89884330
It was Amazi-Girl. Amber has those blush marks, AG does not. The mask is incidental, but he decided to have a different visual signifier so there can be absolutely no ambiguity on who is who, despite that being entirely against the point of a DID character.
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>>89884330
She's speaking about Amber AND Amazi-Girl in the third person here, so I'm not sure.

It seems more like she's just an unhinged girl desperately wanting to live in fantasy-land rather than any crazy DID thing.
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>>89884330
she was in "amazi-girl mode" or whatever. you can tell which she is by by her cheeks (amber has the blush)
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>>89884417
obviously the third personality
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>>89883993
>>89884417
Also, the break up stuff is entirely incongruous with the reconciliation of Amazi-Girl and Sal.

AG basically said that *she* was stalking Sal to protect her from Amber. Basically, Amber will do something rash to Sal, but Amazi-Girl won't because of her morals. (Don't ask me why not stalking Sal at all wasn't an option.) She admitted that she didn't like Sal, but it's made pretty clear that she doesn't have the same deep hate for her that Amber does.

Why, then, was *Amazi-Girl* so incredibly pissed off at Danny for talking to Sal? Wouldn't that make way more sense coming from Amber? Wouldn't Amazi-Girl's inherent upstanding nature cause her to level with Danny instead of just losing her shit entirely? Danny's totally right to be pissed, because it doesn't make any damn sense.

In a way the new strip is kinda lampshading how little sense the breakup made in the context of how well AG and Sal get along now. Willis could have written Amazi-Girl as continuing to hate Sal while hiding that hate, but instead they moved past begrudging respect into full on team-up way too fast.

Once again, I think much of this would've been avoided if Amazi-Girl had ended her grudge with Sal by dealing with her specific issues with her instead of feeling bad about generic racial guilt.
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>>89883661
That's not s NYEEAAAGH
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>>89884056
>braille on the top of the door
>only basketball American can reach
Fuck white people! We are progress!
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>>89884228
>>89884228
A gay man can't be the bad guy in this comic.
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>>89885266
But maybe a bi can!
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>>89884411
I will actually say that, as the girl with DID boyfriend, there are small things that key you off.

The other personalities have their own hormonal makeup and stuff, so things are different. One person (Alter) can be deathly allergic to something, while the other (Main) is not. If Main is allergic to carrots, Alter may not be.

I will also attest to that my boyfriend smells different when he's swapped out. It's like sleeping in the same bed with an acquaintance and is just as uncomfortable. His body language is also completely different.

I'd say that's a little harder to visually communicate in a comic (although in >>89884417, you can see a distinct visual difference in how she stands), so if he's going to go with DID (which I'll agree he seems to be backpedaling on), then he's not entirely wrong on this one.

>>89884784
To be blunt, Amber is full of crap. There are certain people who will pretend to have separate personalities in order to foist responsibility off one someone other than themselves.

Here's how you can tell the difference (especially with a significant other): if Alter upsets you, then Main will feel awful because they weren't able to stop it from happening. They will sincerely apologize.

People who are faking tend to shrug off things like that.
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>>89884228
no chance. danny hasnt been the bad guy in a long time; its been made pretty clear hes doing the right thing most of the time.

pretty good chance there wont be a bad guy in this situation at all though, because obviously amber cant be held responsible for her actions

or the bad guy is amazi-girl. i guess that would count
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>>89884434
>>89885441
>>89884784

It's almost like Amber is using Amazi-Girl as an excuse to assault and treat people like garbage. Again.

If only Willis actually learned how DID actual works, but that might require talking to an actual psychiatrist, which he loathes with a passion.
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>>89884417
>>89883993

It also puts the responsibility on Danny to figure out which Amber he's talking to at any given time. The new comic is jarring with this moment as it seems to attempt to dismiss Amber torpedoing their relationship to play heroine as just another funny Quirk.
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>>89883993
>I-i didn't hate Sal, Amzigurl...I mean I hate Sal and Amazigurl...
Fucking about time someone started to call Amber on her shit.
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>>89884359
People don't have Alters like this comic try to explain it as. Special Snowflakes say they have ulters as a way to remove themselves from their shitty actions. Fucking cray people
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>>89883993
This strip confuses me. It's like conceding that the whole Amber/Amazigirl thing is inconsistent, made-up bullshit, while simultaneously making it an important plot point.
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>>89886492
Maybe this is Amber's wake-up call to realize she's refusing to own up to her own actions and feelings.
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>>89886934
If only. Like as >>89884106 said
>but this is DOA so
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>>89883603
>>89883993
So, Danny is just going to ignore Amber completely freaking out in favor of "Why are you talking to that girl whom you broke up with me for talking to?" She's clearly unwell, you fool!
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>>89883661

She isn't. She's having a panic attack.

Things can happen for reasons other than sexual ones, you know. Seriously, think before you ask such idiotic questions.
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>>89887972
going on how flush she is and how quickly the "attack" subsided, i'm more inclined towards spontaneous sexual expression than panic attack.
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>>89888021

Your inclination would be wrong, then.
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>>89888029
your rebuttal ignores her orgasm face
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>>89888056
your orgasm ignores willis' complete ineptitude at accurately portraying facial expressions.
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>>89888309
>orgasm
why the fuck did I type that? I meant DENIAL

jesus christ, I didn't get a lot of sleep.
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>>89884380
Works for Batman
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>>89884784
He could have avoided all this by having Amber still hate/dislike Sal but setting it aside to focus on Rapin' Ryan or by having this as the story that actually began the process of forcing her to address her issues with Sal. It especially rings false in light of the fact that the breakup with Danny was less than a week ago.
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>>89883707

Wow, a Willy character expressing pleasure in a subdued, realistic fashion?

Did our Pornanon get banned?
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>>89884056
It's probably just the building number written above the door. But the background's out of focus, so you can't read it.

>>89883993
This is the best strip Willis has done in the last year. Unless he doesn't follow through with Amber getting called out for her shit, in which case fuck him
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>>89888309
Almost like his previous sexual experiences involve intense violence, pain, and/or crying, given the way his porn looks.

Also, dudes squealing like Japanese school girls with the slightest touch. Progressive.
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>>89887176
Weirdly enough, I kinda feel like Dorothy is the only person that would ask what was wrong instead of doing this.
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>>89887176
To be fair, trying to look out for Amber's well-being backfired on him.
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>>89892793
Yeah, poor Danny. He might be a turd, but no more so than anyone else in this comic.
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>>89892387
Well, Dorothy is nice/good to a fault. And that's in a literal sense, too, as it has become her major character fault.
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>>89891142
You know, thinking about it this way makes that stupid comic about rabbit vibrators sound more defensive than anything (outside of supreme smugness). Like, "I TOTALLY KNOW STUFF ABOUT SEX, GAIS. I TOTES KNOW WHAT SEX IS AND HOW IT WORKS."
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>>89891142

The fact that he's a father hasn't detracted from my assumption that he's never had sex
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>>89895445
Are you thinking turkey baster or a third party? I'm down with both thoughts.
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>>89896149

I think it doesn't matter.

He could've plowed his wife for a week straight, and he's still never had sex.
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>>89883720
Seek professional help
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>>89889109
It's distinctly possible with all the crackdowns lately.

Pornanon, if you are reading this, feel free to add the latest stuff to the Doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SNqEtHsg_a2zm0ryB0rG8CzTLEVitftj4kQZ_Kg-Hsg/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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>>89896186
I'm still betting on taser to the prostate and turkey baster.
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>>89883993
OK. So is Amazi-girl NOT a split personality? Because the comic seemed to be implying it was. Because if it's NOT a conscious alter ego she wouldn't have waffled and mixed them up. But she also got IRRATIONALLY mad for Danny kissing her as "Amber" as if Amazi-girl is a different entity.
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>>89899809
The only way it'd fit as presented is that Amber is having a slow-burning mental breakdown from compartmentalizing her feelings and impulses between Amber and Amazi-Girl. She doesn't have DID but she's starting to treat Amber and Amazi-Girl as two separate people she switches between while retaining enough overlap that they feed off each other.
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>>89899809
I interpreted that as her trying not to blow her cover. If Danny is dating Amazi-Girl, then what is he doing with Amber? Is he cheating on AG, or is Amber AG?

It was her own stupid choice to date him as AG and not Amber.
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>>89901013
It was also pretty stupid of Danny to not tell Amber to cut out the secret identity bullshit.
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>>89894811
>>89896186
I can see Willis knowing about the mechanics of sex, complete with enough plowing to establish that he has Been With a Woman, and Knows How They Work.

All the while, Mrs Willis sitting there with a book waiting for him to get done.
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>>89901596
Pic related. Danny was essentially a battered housewife for her.
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>>89901806
God damn. Willis is going through hoops toma ke Amber super unlikeable. I don't even understand her character. WHAT IS WILLIS' ENDGAME FOR THIS CHARACTER?
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>>89901806
>>89901884
After a certain point, the rest of the cast is going to get tired of trying to guess which Amber they're talking to at any given time and just leave her.

I guess I'm extra peeved because I kinda liked Amber before her makeover and just seeing her reworked to match Willis' real life Amber, and then warped further still is kinda painful to watch.
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Honestly, I think Amber would work better if she weren't a super-hero, and instead she just took out all her anger and frustration on people in the dead of night.

No outfit, no persona, no physics-breaking. Just her in a black-bloc outfit and a metal rod she stole from a Home Depot.
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>>89901806
>>89901884
Willis couldn't have possibly made Amber more of an abusive lover without having her beat Danny then burn him with a cigarette for not having dinner ready when she wanted it.
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>>89902379
Dark hoodie Amber beating the crap out of Chads putting the moves on ladies and internet creeps would be a bit too meta, even for Willis.

>>89902430
She's already at the "Why you make me do this, Danny??" stage.
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>>89902379
I think it'd work better if she started out as that style of vigilante but slowly added more superheroic elements to it that reflect the changes in her mental well-being.
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>>89902628
You could possibly keep everything the same as it happened with Amazi-Girl. You'd just have to replace Amazi-Girl with Amber in a black hoodie.
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>>89902379
But then he couldn't excuse and handwave her feats back during the char chase. He ass would be in a cell next to Toedad.
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>>89902893
True, but I'm going to steal what >>89902665 said. Maybe after almost-killing her dad in a parking lot, she could start wearing a gray hoodie to symbolize her attempt at becoming a better person and utilizing her violent tendencies in a means that helps the world and others around her, rather than for her own selfish gains.

DID YOU SEE THAT, WILLIS
THAT'S CALLED SUBTLETY
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>>89901806
wow, so Amber is just her dad now?
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>>89883603
"Danny is autistic" anon reporting in.

I just can't get over this shit. Did he just follow his janitor-suit clad ex around campus all fucking night? Isn't he supposed to be crushing on Ethan now anyway? He COULD be off getting some dick, but no
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>>89902989
Probably end up like Watchdogs 2. Tell us they are the good guys but be a violent psycho wearing a hoodie.
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>>89902989
Actually I was intending the opposite. The superhero elements reflect an an increasing mental instability. Delusions of grandeur, attention-seeking, self-righteousness, binary thinking, compartmentalization, and immaturity. Being a vigilante isn't a smart thing to do, but being one while wearing commonplace, obscuring clothing is a smart way to go about it rather than a bright yellow jumpsuit and cape.
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>>89901884
Willis wants to have his cake and eat it too. Amber being a mentally unstable person works for some characters and some plotlines. Amber being Batgirl works for others.

>>89903019
Shit flows downhill, man. Sins of the father and whatnot.

>>89903085
He just walked outside and saw her talking to Sal.
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>>89903085
If you read >>89883993 he brings up that he literally just stepped out to catch some fresh air.

So no.
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>>89903457
Oh, I get it now. My bad.
I was writing from a perspective where Amber got over her shit when she beat up her dad.

I still don't understand how Sal still gives her PTSD when it was obvious that it was her Dad that did that shit.
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>>89903019
Amber has always been her dad. Mike pointed it out during Parent's Day. Frankly I'm amazed that Amber didn't have the hots for Ruth, what with her textbook bullying and abusive behavior.
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>>89903559
It's not unreasonable. What triggers Amber with Sal is distinct from what triggers Amber with her dad. However, there is an overlap between the two due to the similarities in trauma and the direct link of Amber's handstabbin' rampage. Both trigger feelings of powerlessness and rage in Amber and both are connected in her mind.
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I hate this comic and I hate this board.
See you all tomorrow.
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>>89903700
That could work, but I still don't buy Amber going into a state of panic every time she sees Sal. At this point she should only be nervous, not outright ready to run away.

Except maybe at the thought of her boyfriend having jungle fever
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>>89903568

And of course Mike pointing that out is considered one of his most monstrous moments by many fans.

On the other hand, I've found that Amber is actually one of the more contentious characters by his fans.
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>>89903835
I hate you too, anon. Wanna go get dinner, maybe catch a late movie, and fall asleep cuddling on your couch? Hatefully, of course.
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>>89903889
Yes
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>>89903851
Going by my own history, I can see it happening. Maybe not quite as dramatic as what we see in the comic, but considering how hard she internalized that shit, and how she clearly hasn't had any treatment for it, I can see her still being that weak
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>>89903851
You have to consider it from Amber's perspective. Sal's this mostly blank slate that's existed in Amber's mind for five years that is distant and not something she has to think about often. She's had five years to build an idea of Sal in her head that features a lot of carryover for her issues with her dad. Meanwhile the trauma from her dad is relatively low-key and constant. She's had her entire life to develop coping strategies for her dad, but Sal was just a bogeyman until a month ago.
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>>89904038
>>89904188
I feel like her having beaten up her dad should have at least made SOME sort of development in her anger issues.
Like, hell, Sal should be less of a blank slate than she is to Amber. They've interacted more often than not. Amber can harbor anxiety, sure, but not outright blacking out and going full panic mode, y'know?

I dunno. Maybe it's just me. I'm bad at explaining things.
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>>89904331
Everyone's broken in their own way. Some things heal faster than others.

Anyways, point is that on the list of things that's wrong with Amber's sub-plot, it's pretty low priority
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>>89904381
Fair enough. Especially the second part; I doubt we'll ever see a proper resolution to whether or not Amber has DID or is just stupid.
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>>89903568
Ruth would fight back too much. Amber wants a wimp she can bully. Just look at her relationships with Ethan and Danny.

>>89904424
I hope that the next few strips show us that she's the latter.
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>>89904535
>implying you don't want Amber to crumble under Ruth's bullying
>implying you don't want Amber to submit and become Ruth's bitch
>implying you don't want Amber to Ruth's sexual punching bag

I guess that now you could swap Ruth with either Billie or Roz.

>>89903966
Hope you like hairy, bearded, overweight guys.
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>>89904424
Amber, like Dina, exists in a state of Schrodinger's Mental Health.
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who wants to bet Cerberus is going to side with Amber after all this is over?
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Knowing Willis, I have a feeling we're about to get a scene transition. Mostly because now would be a bad time for such a transition, meaning it's bound to happen.
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>>89907711
I laughed at that way more than I should have.

It's true.
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>>89907711
I have this saying whenever I used to watch this old show about Witches on the WB called Charmed

"if it sounds like a good idea, Charmed will find a way to ruin it"

I now realize I have been unconsciously thinking this about Willis products since mid Shortpacked!

So thanks for making me realize that "if it sounds like a good idea, Willis will somehow ruin it" is how I read DOA, I guess.
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>>89907549
Cerb has already absolved Amber of all wrong doing by blaming an alter.
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Willis apparently learned from his pokemon go comic that he can't draw amber doing this realistically.
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>>89910417
what the fuck did I just read

two melting muppets are trying to out melodrama each other?

Also shitty joke at the end, like always, no closure, like always
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>>89910417
>>89909460
So it looks like that, no, Danny isn't going to bring up how Amber blames things on her other persona when she does something hurtful or stupid, apparently.

I wonder what Willis thinks of Split, another story where have DID gives the person superpowers.
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>>89910417
Honestly I'm just glad Danny's standing up to her at this point.
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>>89910417
This still doesn't answer how the Amber/Amazi-Girl dichotomy works. And like every other story thread Willis follows, this one ends with him giving up and moving on.

Anyways, turns out last night's password was "pokestop". I can't figure out tonight's password again. I'm starting to suck at this.
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>>89910417
please admit alters aren't a thing

please admit alters aren't a thing

please admit alters aren't a thing
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>>89910696
Panel 3 doesn't make any sense with panel 5.

Trying to think of other works that have DID and superpowers. Doom Patrol and Moon Knight are the only ones off the top of my head.
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>>89910417
Cut her out of your life, Danny. No human being is worth this effort. Unless she's your daughter or some shit no one would blame you if you just never talk to this insane woman again.
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>>89911034
Especially considering how short they dated.
Having problems doesn't justify you being an asshole 99% of the time.
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>>89910759
the comic has never actually suggested amber has DID and has established plenty of times that she chooses to do this
it doesnt need to disprove a fan-idea
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>>89910417
This is stupid.
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>>89911034
The truth. When most of their life they tried to build around lies. Just time to stop.
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>>89910417
oh good, an anticlimax. i was afraid an actual conflict would happen.
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>>89911180
it's also suggested that she can't control when AG takes over while also suggesting Amber uses AG as a coping mechanism for stress

Willis just flip flops for whatever he thinks he's patreon users want
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>>89910417
>Amazigirl

>Goodness


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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>>89911128
None of the romance shit makes any goddamn sense considering the oldest relationships only started 4 weeks ago. Becky/Dina is about the only relationship approaching realistic in how they interact with each other.
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>>89910417
Boring conversation anyway.
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>>89911034
Don't you mean, "Danny, stop following Amber around."
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>>89911505
Can you name four things that make sense in willywallys work?
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>>89887972
Have you seen the way Willis draws a person having an orgasm? I can forgive the guy for being confused
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>>89893602
How is he a turd in any way?
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>>89911865
1.) If you're queer, you're right. In the event of conflict between non-heteros, the queerest party holds the moral high ground.
2.) The news media is incompetent. Nothing of journalistic note will be scrutinized beyond the moment of its occurance
3.) Becky gets what she wants, without effort or prolonged concerned. Consequences for her actions are temporary, transient, or displaced.
4.) Physics cease to function when events or circumstances become sufficiently dire or cartoonish.
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>>89910417
"blame" is the title of this one. Decent choice.

So, this basically confirms that the inconsistencies are real, but they're "on purpose."

For example, calling Danny stupid definitely seems like more of an Amber move. Although who knows if that's actually Amazi-Girl or Amber saying, she's doing voice, but it could be Amber putting it on.

The thing that really annoys me about this is that they managed to discuss the break-up without Amber showing any concern for Danny at all. It just became the "Amber's Issues" show, again. It's especially shitty because her leaving line plays on Danny's insecurities about feeling mediocre, but fuck Danny's feeling's right?
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>>89910417
>I'm the one who yelled at you. But...sometimes...I'm afraid that when I'm myself, my own thoughts bleed through

FTFY Willy
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>>89912114
grammar error!
>but fuck Danny's feelings, right?

Also, posting this image to feel better.
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>>89910417
Man, these needs to end with Amber getting shot by the cops. She doesn't deserve it, but she is unhinged and mentally unstable. The moment alter egos were introduced into Amber, this wasn't a Batman/secret identity thing. This is Amber out of her fucking mind. This shouldn't be treated as "Amber's a special snowflake and we should acknowledge she has alters." The chick needs to be locked up and have a real psychological evaluation.

But this is Willis so she'll probably catch Ryan the rapist in some bullshit way and be seen as a hero to all.
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>>89912410
at minimum, a real world amber would be tazed to shit and carted off to a state mental facility for her "activity."

but you're right, she'll probably become a sanctioned vigilante by local law enforcement. or if she is confronted by cops, she'll throw ds boxes or used tampons or some nonsense to knock their guns away before they can fire on her. then she'll do some stupid quip, cartwheel up a fourteen story skyscraper, handspring down the other side, stop for a pokestop, then have a hissy-fit because danny is walking by with a slurpee that reminds her of the time she stabbed someone.
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>>89911975
As soon as he appears in the story, he's shown to be pretty judgy. While in some contexts what he said to Dorothy would sound like him being a realist, he comes off as having no faith in Dorothy at all.

Everything else Danny's done has been the path of least resistance, doing whatever it takes to make himself look good. When he does that, he acts out of selfishness. When has he ever done anything nice for anyone?

This isn't to say he's a bad person or character or whatever. He's still better than nearly everyone in the cast, but he definitely has his turd moments.
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>>89912410
You know, when you have this many characters and so little time passes, you fill quotas pretty quickly. I don't think he can get away with another "mental institution" storyline for quite a while since Ruth's was so recent.

And out of all the characters to get psychological/pschyiatric help, why did it have to be Ruth?

Joyce, Becky, Amber, Ethan, even Roz would have benefited more from getting help. It's a shame.
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>>89888056

I didn't ignore your Mom's orgasm face.
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>>89901884
>WHAT IS WILLIS' ENDGAME FOR THIS CHARACTER?

Im starting to think he HAS no endgame for ANY of this comic. He just plans to keep it on an IV drip for as long as possible because if he ended it he would have to get a REAL job that involves actual WORK

In another six years it will onlt be late November
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>>89883993
>>89883603
what happened to the white of her eyes after taking off the mask
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>>89910417

He's actually right at the end, bad joke aside.
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>>89913874
How does him presenting the possibility of her having a change of heart equate to "having no faith in Dorothy at all"? We've actually seen Dorothy having a change of heart since then (and in a very short time frame for them), so he certainly wasn't wrong.

>path of least resistance
He literally called out the fact he was doing the exact opposite in this >>89884417 strip. If he's a "turd" in any way, it's that he hasn't called Amber or Dorothy out on their bullshit hard or soon enough.

Dealing with these two crazies is paving the way for him to embrace the D, so it's not ALL bad.
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>>89887972
why the fuck would she have a panic attack over nothing?
also, what superhero could function with such an issue. none.
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>>89914866
What are you talking about? Batman rips of his mask and makes orgasmic noises every time someone shoots a gun at him...

...doesn't he?
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>>89910417
There is so much bullshit in this comment chain, just read it for yourself.

Bottom line, Willis is a strong independent writer, and don't need no trans.
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>>89914866
>why the fuck would she have a panic attack over nothing?
because that's what panic attacks ARE, dumbsumb
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>>89914952
Her personalities abuse each other, and she works in mental health? Yeah, that's a great idea.
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>>89914952
I think that SaraSaur might have pissed Willis off.
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>>89913874
It's not so much 'path of least resistance' as it is 'keep moving in the same direction until something gets in his way'

If he was just following the path of least resistance, he would have abandoned Dorothy and Amber as lost causes long before he followed the former to college and shortly after he got fucking kidnapped.

>>89914866
>Bitch doesn't know about Sentry
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>>89914952
>I know how my characters think and act better than you!
>I don't care if I'm writing them differently, and I'm not taking criticism because I have a huge buffer!

christ, that buffer enables the laziest behaviour.
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>>89914483
>He's actually right at the end, bad joke aside.
Nah, the right response would be something like "*I'm* stupid? Fuck this bitch."

>>89914952
The idea Bagge raises here that Danny would be in the wrong to "make this about himself" (hint: he is an equal part of the relationship and has feelings, being broke up with is definitely at least equally about himself, especially since it related to him expressing care for Amber) is nonsense. In fact, I think it speaks to Danny's inability to take care of his own needs and stand up for himself at times.

I know we generally laud selflessness and vilify selfishness, but you've got to strike a balance to be healthy.
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>>89915399
Lots of people go into mental health to treat themselves.
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>>89917612
Problem is she views her actual personality as the bad one. She's gonna Durden herself if she's not careful, which she clearly isn't hence she engages in dangerous behavior.
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>>89887972
triggered
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>>89883603
>>89883993
When Amber started doing the Amazigirl thing she mostly kept to the shadows and would only be around people when she was helping/stopping them (aside from Danny).

Now she's always around someone or in lit areas. It's getting harder to believe her secret identity hasn't been made public yet.
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>>89915399
fucking Cerberus lies all the time, a few weeks ago she said she worked as the manager of an S&M club
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>>89919836
It was more like S&M dungeon moderator, or something like that. And I can see someone doing that on their off hours, same way that 4chan moderators don't do it for a living.

As far as I'm concerned, Cerberus never consciously lies about shit. That's not to say that she doesn't say things that are blatantly incorrect, but she does so because she has issues that color the way she sees shit. Which is at least slightly better than, say, 4chan trolls who lie about shit to get a rise out of people.

That said, if I worked in mental health or had a position advising students or something, I'd probably be giving Willis even more shit than I already do.
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>>89919836
Maybe that's the other Cerebus. Given her name, she might have a third head that works at a Wendy's.
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>>89920016
Granted the last time who actually had depression tried to criticize Willis' take on depression, he got brow beaten into the ground and had to grovel to stay in the club.

When you've built up a fandom like Willis has, going against it's grain is dangerous, even if follow roughly the same wavelength.
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>>89920057
Don't even joke. That implies that trying to take them down will only make another head pop up
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>>89910696
>So it looks like that, no, Danny isn't going to bring up how Amber blames things on her other persona when she does something hurtful or stupid, apparently.
He just did.
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>>89920378
that's the hydra, the dog will bleed to death if you cut off one of it's heads.
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>>89912410
>The chick needs to be locked up and have a real psychological evaluation.
>But this is Willis so she'll probably catch Ryan the rapist in some bullshit way and be seen as a hero to all.
You act as if the two are mutually exclusive. though I don't think she will get locked up, but will have to go through therapy.

Willis has made clear she ain't quite right. You are mistaken if you think he is trying to promote "alter" or whatever. Seh is featured has someone who has terrible anxiety issue and whose the way she has has found to deal with is only a band aid.
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>>89914866
Have you seen Iron Man 3? Tony Stark has PTSD and ends up having random panic attacks at horrible times.

Panic attacks sometimes have specific triggers, but many of them happen over literally nothing.

For Amber, being around Sal is extremely stressful and apparently triggering. I know I've had to stave off panic attacks for a couple of hours just to function like a normal person until later. I assume that's what she was doing.
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>>89914866
>why the fuck would she have a panic attack over nothing?
That's, that's the whole gist of panic attack. They happens over nothing, that's basically what define them.
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>>89921560
>that's the whole gist of panic attack. They happens over nothing

oh no, Willis, you need to stop. A panic attack is triggered by anything that reminds you of a stressful event in your life whether it be abuse or anguish, it could be a big event or a minute event something has to happen to make someone have a panic attack

Don't fucking talk about shit you know nothing about, Willy
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>>89914952
>S:i suspect that willis pays attention to comments when he does something new
>W:no fug you i know what i'm doing
In short his characters are bitter angry people because he is a bitter angry person.

>>89916708
>I think it speaks to Danny's inability to take care of his own needs and stand up for himself at times.
Yeah Danny's been shit on repeatedly in this comic. I hate calling anything "making it about x" as though standing up for yourself takes something away from someone else. "Don't make this about you" is the tool of an attention whore.
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>>89913874
It's weird to see these old strips with only four panels, and multiple camera perspectives and zooms. I think the open space is the most jarring. I'm used to seeing seven cramped panels of faces and speech bubbles, like >>89910417

Willis' style has really frozen into an easy routine over the years.
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>>89921612
>A panic attack is triggered by anything that reminds you of a stressful event
You mean, like being in close proximity of the girl who stabbed you in the hand?
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>>89925027
yeah, I agree with that

the person I was answering was stating that literally, nothing could be enough to start a panic attack

I might have misread honestly, I dunno, I'm dumb. If I did, my bad.
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>>89925080
As I understand it, Panic Disorder can lead panic attacks can seem to just come out of nowhere. Sometimes this can be triggered from something stressful, but not always.
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/anxiety-disorders/index.shtml
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>>89925289
If Amber had some form of anxiety or panic disorder she'd probably have more trouble than she does considering she's already under stress from college.
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>>89925027
>girl who stabbed you in the hand?
You have that the wrong way around, friend.
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>>89925289
from what I read on the website you provided, it seems like the attacks are "unexpected" but not necessarily "unexplainable"

And after the attack happens, where the attack happens might correlate with the stress of it happening again so the place is now a trigger for panic attacks or the memory of panic attacks can cause panic attacks or the fear of having a panic attack can cause a panic attack

Did I read that correctly? I think panic attacks always have a cause it's just not always clear what causes it, though I might not have read it clearly.
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>>89925392
That's what I got from it too, although reading about people's experiences of panic attacks some say they feel like they just happen sometimes. Therefore Amber's attack may have a reason but not one that she is consciously aware of. Or it's the easy option of her pushing down her Sal-fear for a couple of hours.
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>>89925518
as far as I know, every strip that shows Amber turning into AG has had something to do with Sal, Danny being around after the breakup, Toedad, or Rapin Ryan, or maybe her Dad

those are all pretty good indicators of stress but then again it's Willis so I highly doubt he thought that hard about it
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>>89925585
Amazi-Girl is a coping mechanism. At this point practically anything stressful enough to trigger a panic attack should bring out the cape and mask.
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>>89913319
i kek'd
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Happy Valentine's Day, /co/
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>>89929007

Good

Now post Joyce X Dina
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>>89929007
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>>89929007

I approve of this ship
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>>89929007
Nice!
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>>89929360
I can't quite remember why or when this happened. Cute, though.
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>>89933924
It's from when Billie was depressed and went missing overnight. Everyone was panicking, and they went to see Ruth who assured them she was okay. Billie then snuck out of Ruth's room to check in with them. Somehow the conversation got to the idea that Billie is in love, and that's why she's feeling better (without specifically mentioning who she's in love with). Joyce was so happy about that news that she gave Billie a big hug. Billie, annoyed by the physical contact, told her to make room for a fat Jesus.
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Willis has posted a follow-up
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>>89935232
>Becky trying to undress Pure Dina
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>>89929007
>>89935232
Weren't these Kickstarter backer exclusives or something?
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>>89935264
>Becky has very little knowledge of how sex, especially lesbian sex, works
>she knows there is something about getting naked but that's about it
>she's not really sure why Dina is grinding on her leg like that
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>>89935383
Don't she and Joyce know about anal?
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>>89935489
Only what their pastor taught them.
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>>89935489
They know just enough to insure a trip to the emergency room.
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Not that I expect to see it here, but does anyone have a link to the latest slipshine willis cash machine?
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Goddamn.

Who knew Willy had it in him.
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>>89935819
>2014
Yeah, I'm pretty sure these are Kickstarter pledge incentives.
Do they know that he's releasing them for free? I know it's been a few years, sure, but people paid money for what I assume they assumed would be exclusive.
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>>89935819
For the briefest of seconds I thought that was Marcie and then I realized the futility of my hope.
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new comic!
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>>89936232
Huh...okay. funny I guess.
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>>89936232
Jesus, how long ago was this subplot?

Also, note that Sarah got through the entire first two panels without realizing that her plan was completely moot.
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>>89936232
So Joyce's storyline has gone from "let's track down my rapist" to "lol weird Joyce shenanigans" in what, one strip? Guess that's Willis for you.
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>>89936232
>bookending the day
Not necessary, but not unusual. The only question here is when and where Joyce got these milk jugs, and why Sarah's feet look like they've been bound together since birth to fit in those shoes.

Also, why Joyce is half a foot taller in milk jugs. I mean, I know they're molded plastic, but they aren't stilts.

>>89936298
Willis is no stranger to tonal whiplash.
Hell, just look at how Joyce was like "Do it. Kill the rapist" to "Let's pray to God that Dorothy gets her job!".

Honestly, in terms of pacing and tone, this day of "DoA" has probably been the worst.
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>>89936298
Joyce hasn't been important to the "Joyce almost got raped" plotline for years. It's Amber and Dorothy's plot now.
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>>89936380

I dunno, it hasn't totally derailed the entire comic unlike El Dia De Toedad
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>>89936380
Somehow Joyce is able to stand on the empty space inside the milk jug.

And there is no God, only Amazi-Girl.
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Also, the password is "disposable". Much like this comic (Hey-o!)

>>89936392
I wonder why Willis wants to keep Joyce out of her own story. I wonder if in the last few pages he'll conveniently bring her on-site to punch Ryan in the jaw or something.

>>89936406
True, but there's a difference between derailing a story and not having much of a story at all. And the latter was the case throughout the past month and a half or whatever. Whenever this day started.

Just look at how many plotlines were wrapped up in this day alone. Walky's math problems, Leslie and Robin's relationship, Dorothy's issues with her image, Billie's issues with missing Ruth, the whole goddamn Rapin' Ryan scenario... It's just amazing how Willis felt the need to tie them all up without letting them progress naturally.
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>>89936502
Willis tends to do that. Joyce is being kept out of her own story. The Mary/Carla conflict is now entirely about Ruth and Billie.
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>>89935354
>>89935955
Patreon-exclusives, I think. If you give him a butt-ton every month, he'll draw you characters making out.
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>>89920135
I remember that, that was fucked up.

It also must burn Willis to no end that he can't just delete those comments either because it all happened on his Patreon.
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>>89936232

Sarah's the best roomate

I think I'd greatly prefer the shower shoes.i cannot imagine standing in milk cartoon shoes with my bare feet being anything but uncomfortable and hard to balance.

Also is it just one pair of disposable shower shoes because that seems like a waste of money. Why not just give her some swim shoes and then throw them in the laundry when she gets out?
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>>89884417
women are stupid
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>>89913874
She's a bad person for not breaking up with this idiot sooner.
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>>89913874
It's weird how much her character has changed in just two months.

Like, I don't think the Dorothy at the beginning of this comic would've helped Walky with his math at all.

At. All.

She would've seen him as something holding her down and dumped his ass. Hell, all the people telling her she was perfect would've been like fucking compliments for her.
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>>89937871
Yeah, she wouldn't have made time for helping him because he wasn't taking his academics seriously.

And she would have tried to be modest about the compliments, but she would have totally been thrilled.

I think a lot of Dorothy's new attitudes came from accidentally abandoning Joyce at the party.
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>>89936232
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>>89935232
My dick is confused
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>>89936380
>when and where Joyce got these milk jugs
The only thing I have to contribute here is that water jugs look just like milk jugs. You can get them for like 99 cents at Walmart.
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>>89936232
Those milk jug handles are weird.
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>>89937578
https://www.amazon.com/Individually-Wrapped-Non-Skid-Disposable-Slippers/dp/B00BE593G2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487150390&sr=8-1&keywords=disposable+shower+shoes
Box of 50.
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>>89929007
This does make the most sense... but I'm worried that it'd just push Mike even further into the designated villain role that Willis is shoving him down with this "break up Danny and Ethan" subplot that he seems to have forgotten about... for now.
>>89935232
>those closed "eyes"
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>>89940926
He really is shit at drawing eyes these days
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>>89883993
Danny is retarded

>getting mad because crazy dumped you

Why?
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>>89884359
>alters

Alternate personalities?

Cerberus is a transgender weirdo who claims to have alternate personalities? How does this person function?
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>>89942708
He's a faggot, anyway, so I really don't understand what he's pissed about.
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>>89942735
Assuming sincerity? Not very well.
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>>89939570
Maybe, but we still never even saw Joyce getting the jugs. Not even a one-panel background gag of her seeing a bunch of discarded jugs and stealing them.

>>89940926
>he seems to have forgotten about... for now.
They had one strip and that was it. We might as well assume that they skipped classes all day so that they could troll people online.

>>89942708
>>89943452
He's mad because he doesn't know if Amber has DID or is faking it.
Just like us.

>>89942735
I wish I had the screencap where they were like "As an asexual aromantic transsexual whatchamacallit, I approve" or however it went.
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>>89942708
Wouldn't it chafe you that Amber thinks she's better than you.

>>89943452
He doesn't want any faghag drama when he starts pounding Ethan's boipussy.
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>>89942735
>>89944292
>>89943478

While I'll rail against Cerb I feel like I should always maintain a degree of pity for them as well.

He was probably born with several screws loose already, worsened by what was in his account a traumatic childhood. Of course, even that should be taken lightly, since Cerb's the exact kind of person who'd consider being looked at funny "rape", and to whom being told to "grow a pair" by some gruff PE coach or something could be perceived as the single most awful, monstrous act committed against him.

In final review, Cerb's a broken, damaged individual mauled by life and circumstance into a mentally unhinged mess. They need fucking treatment. And to get off the web.
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>>89936232
I hope she's cutting holes in those or she'll have half-jugs full of gross water by the end of every shower.

For a moment I was like, "that Sarah in panel one is kinda cute," and then I actually looked at the elements and it didn't hold up at all. The pupils are particularly weird.

>Joyce, but as tall as Sarah
I like this, though. Wish she was still wearing the crop top. though.

>>89936502
>I wonder why Willis wants to keep Joyce out of her own story.
Maybe it's conveying the idea that if you don't report your attacker to the police, you are leaving it up to someone else to get attacked and try and stop them.
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>>89944607
Apparently page-long rants on a webcomic are something recommended by Cerb's therapist. Which leads me to believe that Cerb's therapist believes they're not being entirely forthcoming in therapy and is using Cerb's commentary as a source of insight.
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>>89945011

It's a possibility. My experience with people with mental issues makes me think Cerb's the kind of person who will bounce around doctors and therapists until they hear what they want, not what they need.

I have very little doubt Cerb has met someone before who legitimately tried to help them, only for Cerb to dismiss them as a transphobe for one reason or another and move on to someone else.
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>>89936232
I want to squeeze the milk out of Joyce's jugs.
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>>89946174
Joyce is not for non-pregnancy hormonal-induced lactation.
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>>89946339
>>89946174
But Carol is for lactation right? That lady's probably a milk factory now.
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>>89946405
She might supplement her income with a fetish site that's nichely popular in Japan.
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>>89946972
>"It's god's plan. We're taking money from the godless asians without compromising our good christian morals. After all, lactation is pure and is god's plan."
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>>89945011
I will say that writing is one of the most effective forms of therapy, regardless of whether you're doing a diary or writing a novel.

It even has its own page on Wikipedia. Not sure how good it is, but it's at least a place to start if anyone's interested in reading about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_therapy
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>>89948104
The shit works. Don't think I would have gotten through high school if I didn't start writing journals about everything

The thing is that writing therapy is generally better done when it's, you know, private. You don't put that shit on the internet for all and sundry to read. Negative reactions from assholes (which we're all innately familiar with) might undo any good feelings she gets out of it. And positive reactions might skew things.

It'd be interesting to see how posting her thoughts on a platform as heavily moderated as DoA's comments section affects her vs writing about her thoughts in a journal.
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>>89948447
I don't think it affects too much for Cerb in particular. She seems like an over-sharer that is writing about the same as she would privately.

I agree that the possibility of negative comments could outweigh the benefits of writing in the first place.
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>>89944292
Here.
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>>89920135
>>89937535
Screencap?
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>>89948733

Well I'm an agnostic homosapian superman and I'm more powerful than you.
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>>89949075
You underestimate the power of my pronouns.
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>>89949768
>my
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>>89949075
Amazi-Girl is stronger.
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>>89945004
>Maybe it's conveying the idea that if you don't report your attacker to the police, you are leaving it up to someone else to get attacked and try and stop them.
I really want to believe that.
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>>89935819
Wow, thats sooooo hot.
<---- WARNING: HAND STAB EDIT!
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>>89953362
Well done, but you don't need to put warnings here.
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>>89953362
Brutal.
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>>89953362
this is Dumbing Of Age general not Questionable Content general man
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>>89953698
While it seemed like the only response I could have to a picture of Sal and Amber kissing, I didn't really feel good about drawing it, honestly.

>Well done
Although I did really like how it turned out, so thanks!

>>89954297
Amber loves a good hand stab almost as much as Jeph.
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>>89953999

It's cringeworthy how blatant this strip was made for catharsis.

It's about as pathetic as if some /b/tard wrote some faggy story about beating up all the mean alphas and convincing the 10/10 girls that they don't need to date jerks using his boyish beta charm. "You have to eat these eggs" shit.
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>>89954297
>implying there's a difference

Honestly, it would be nice to just force the two generals together. Would save space.
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>>89954899
Sometimes I forget about qc, though. Those are happy times.
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>>89954899
>>89956241
Yeah, I love to mock them both, but Willy's writing is far more engaging, for better or worse.

Hand Stab is just a boring hack. I'll go two or three weeks forgetting about QC and then binge 15 strips in ten minutes without even a tinge of interest or emotion. There's a good why reason Jacques has like twice the patrons, yet there's no QC Patreanon.
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>>89953362
I don't know why but I legitimately find this sexier.
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>>89954899

Everything's fine the way they are.
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>>89957623
It's at least a bit more honest.
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>>89957623
Willis tries too hard, and I don't think any of his stuff looks particularly sexy on its own.
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>>89954751
why has no one written a story where Ethan saves Danny from Amber and forces him to eat a bowl of eggs?
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>>89961177
I'm afraid to ask about the eggs. But I kinda wanna know.
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>>89962670
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>>89962752
>Helping a lost soul get back on track is consider "creepy"
I'll never understand this place.
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>>89962752
whats the benefit to eating eggs specifically in this situation?
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>>89962933
I mean in theory, eggs are protein so it's a good way to have energy after a rough night I guess

making a whole bowl for a person you don't know and kidnapped, uh, trying to ease the tension?
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>>89962933
Fast-acting protein and nutrients, I would think. When I was a vegetarian and not eating much, I started getting really light-headed, and slowly nibbling on the yolk of a hard-boiled egg actually helped. It's that weird point where you're so hungry that food almost looks disgusting.
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>>89957623
Sex and violence are closely related. Plus if you're going to write AmberxSal smut why not go Jodorowsky/Lynch/Cronenberg with it?

>>89961177
I might my next day off from work.
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>>89962868
If you lost your job and I gave you a ride and $20 for dinner, that'd be help.

If I found you unconscious, took you back to my place (rather than the hospital or whatever area you'd be safe/familiar with) and then acted all familiar and gave me a "bowl of eggs"?

That's pure wizardry.
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>>89962868
picking up an unconscious person off the street, taking them back to your home, tucking them into a bed and then shoving a bowl of hardboiled eggs in their face when they wake up hungover and disoriented is not "helping a lost soul get back on track", it's just fucking autistic as shit
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>>89963094
Bingo.
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>>89963095
What would be the ethical thing to do if you found an unconscious person in the street late at night?
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>>89963225
call a damn ambulance and wait with the unconscious person til they arrive, fucktard
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>>89963225
Flag down a cop. If you're outside a bar or on a pedestrian mall chances are there's one within a block or two.

You don't fucking abduct an unconscious woman and take her back to your creepy one-bedroom efficiency apartment on the wrong side of the tracks, greet her in the morning with your heavy ass mouth breathing and offer her a bowl of already-peeled eggs.
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new comic!
apparently carla showers in the evening for obvious reasons.
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>>89937316
If you pay just a little more, he will shoop character hair above their genitalia and call it a pin up.
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>>89963421
That last panel looks like another Easily Manipulated Joyce.
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>>89963421
You'd think Carla's towel would be longer. Why does Joyce think wearing her "shower shoes" with her boots on will help? Is she just testing them?
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>>89963421
Every dorm I've been in had the bathrooms cleaned out once a week. I literally never felt uncomfortable going in barefoot. Is that not normal or something?
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>>89963421
>it's a Carla steals cut in half milk jugs with some twine to 'improve' them because Willis remembered she's an engineering student episode
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>>89963421
>Soaking wet carla
Hot. I don't even care.

>no get out of the way of your make shift jug shoes.
No one has ever phrased a sentence like that ever. You literally set her up for misinterpreting you because there's no way ANYONE would assume thats where you'd be going with the rest of that statement

>Help My Butt is Contaminated

That panel would be a lot funnier without that final word bubble. The jokes not funny and it adds nothing to the punchline.


Don't worry Willis. Maybe one day you'll make jokes as good as Jim Davis.
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>>89963589
it's usually advised that students wear sandals in communal showers just in cause there's athletes foot present

Willis is hyping up the greasiness because he needs to distance the heaviness of the rape storyline from the next heavy story line coming up after this with something light (or so he thinks he needs to do)
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>>89963421
>Help! My butt's been contaminated!
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>>89963421
How did carla get those shoes without exposing her dangly bits? That towel is pretty short and won't stay in place when bending or crouching or whatever.
Is this confirmation that she has a mangled vagina, despite mary recognizing him as male in just a single moving upskirt?
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>>89963800
bend at the knee, same as any woman who ever has to reach the ground in a short skirt?
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>>89963421
Please don't tell me Willis is going to focus more on Joyce's shower anxiety than he does on her role in the Rapin' Ryan story.

Also, the password is "waft". I need to start using the seemingly more obscure short words over the more obvious long words.
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>>89963827
Except that isn't a skirt and won't follow her lower body, exposing her.
Go grab a towel and try if you don't believe me.
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>>89963883
just did.

and keep in mind I'm 192cm(6'3) tall, and my towel barely covers my groin when it's around my broad chest in the same pose as carla.

It worked fine, and I'm assuming that carla wouldn't be kneeling with her groin pointed towards joyce anyway.
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>>89963937
Looks like I have a long way to go to learn how to use female dressing.
I also just realized that she could have simply lowered it a little exposing her boobs, getting a greater shame-coverage.

If mary knows, does everybody else know too?
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>>89963421
http://imgur.com/a/2HUoP
I'm not sorry.
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>>89964035
why would you be?

You do pornanons proud, yoto.
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>>89963800

someone make an edit where Carla's MAGNUM DONG is hanging out
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>>89964028
I don't think we're any closer to knowing just HOW Mary knows that Carla is trans, much less whether or not EVERYBODY knows. I think Ruth and Billie knew about it.

I honestly wonder if we need to re-read the entire comic just to see if there's any discussion from anybody else about Carla being trans.
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>>89964035
>dat ass and supple tits
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>>89964122
maybe she ran into Carla getting out of the shower one night or something?

I mean that took 1 second of thinking about it. I have a feeling we'll never know how Mary knew because 1) if Mary just knew looking at Carla than he'd get flack about making fun of non-passing trans people 2) he'd have to make up a story where Mary somehow saw Carla naked
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>>89964122
to be fair, most IRL trans people don't really....fully pass.

hell, one of my best friends is a trans woman. She's been on hormones for about 4 years now and while she has real tits and some hips, she's very clearly still a guy physically.
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>>89964122
There isn't up till mary's male dorm thing.
I didn't get that until I saw it mentioned here, but either mary saw carla's oversized love-lance when she jumped over her, or IRL carla isn't as feminine as she looks in comic.
I think Willis implies that not everybody knows about carla, ruth surely does tho.
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>>89964216
That's the thing, though: The context that Mary knows of and resents Carla's transsexuality is something that is never set up at all over the past six years of strips, yet is required of the reader to understand when it hits. There is only one actual strip of Carla and Mary interacting, and it's a Patreon-only bonus strip that few if any people would have seen, and doesn't give any new information about their relationship regardless.

Simply put, Mary knowing that Carla is trans is all but the purest definition of a plot hole.

>>89964231
True, but we as the reader aren't led to believe Carla is anything but female. I like to point to the subtlety presented by Jeph Jacques (back when he had subtlety) in Claire's character design. We were led to believe that she was female, but if you looked carefully you'd have seen that she lacked defined lips like other male characters.

It's a small example that few if any people picked up on at the time, but it's an example nonetheless.

>>89964233
For reference, here's the hopping strip. It doesn't look as if Mary could have gotten a clear view of what's up Carla's skirt.

I'll give you that it's implied that Ruth, Billie, Sal, and possibly others are aware that Carla is trans. However, it's still never outright revealed that Carla is trans and everybody knows it, a fact which is imperative for not only the Mary/Carla conflict, but also the part where Billie lets everybody know about Mary blackmailing Ruth as well as antagonizing Carla.

Because otherwise, Billie's outed Carla to the entire dorm wing.
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Anyways, here's a preview of May 15, 2017. Looks like Ruth's still not out of the hospital.
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>>89963589
Once a week? At my dorm they were quick cleaned once a day and fully cleaned on a rotating basis.

>>89963800
She didn't. However, Carla knew that Joyce's inherent godly shame would prevent her from looking at Carla's exposed genitals for long enough to grab the milk jugs.

>>89964035
Never be sorry, Yoto.
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>>89963589
Generally, there's a risk of meningitis if you don't get vaccinated beforehand.
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>>89963937
>broad chest
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>>89964358
Why is jizz coming out of her skates when she does the jump?
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>>89964545
stop that.
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>>89964358
I just realized that the framing of the first panel implies that the hallways are wide as fuck.

It makes hopping over Mary seem impractical as Carla could have simply skated around her.
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>>89964358
Some should add in a "That's a penis!" word balloon to panel five.

>>89964555
Are you telling me that your skates didn't have jizz nozzles? I had a skateboard that would leave a trail of snot after every ollie.
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>>89964035
Superb! Now how about one with Carla bullying a nervous Mary while both of them are naked in a communal prison-style shower.
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>>89964570
The heart wants what the heart wants
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>>89964122
Everybody definitely knows after Billy told everyone.
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>>89964717
I'm 6'3, 225. I'm a big guy, but not particularly muscular.
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>>89963225
Take them to their friends if you could find them, or better yet the police?
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>>89964785
I am ok with everything you just said
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>>89964817
stop.
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>>89964785
>big guy
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>>89964729
Well, re-reading this, the implication is that Billie only told everybody about Mary blackmailing her and Ruth, not about Carla being trans.

So either everybody already knows and we the reader were never told, or nobody other than Mary, Sal, Billie, and Ruth knows about it.
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>>89964823
make me sempai

with your big strong body and voice
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Whatever happened to Dewd?
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>>89963800
>How did carla get those shoes without exposing her dangly bits?
...Has it been established that Carla retains her dangly bits?

I mean yes, we like to greentext about her ravaging Mary with them, butthose aren't exactly canon.
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>>89883603
>>89883993

>QUI ANISOCYCLUM IGNIS URIS PENIS.
>Translation: The one who screws a fire burns his penis.

We've known this for hundreds of years man, this guy has no excuse.
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>>89964910
Carla's genitals are treated the same way as Claire's from QC

we will never know because if it was revealed the author would inevitably fuck up somehow and make a ton of people mad
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>>89964910
Willis was already wary about outright stating that Carla is trans. What makes you think he's going to say anything about her junk?

It's easier to assume she's got a massive dong that Mary loves.
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>>89964910
It's possible that she's had SRS, but considering her young age and the extensive nature of SRS it'd be more probably that she hasn't had genitoplasty. However, she's also probably been on hormones for three or four years and more than likely on puberty blockers before that, so any male genitalia would be underdeveloped and non-functional.
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>>89964944
The "You're beautiful" page would imply that Claire is pre-op, but there are enough things in the comic that could lead one to infer that she's post-op.

>>89964954
I prefer to believe that Mary is enamored with Carla's tiny and exquisitely feminine penis.
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>>89965397
It's funny because Marten is canonically opposed to anal sex. I wonder if Jeph even remembered that. I'm sure one of his followers has brought it up by now.
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>>89965432
That's one of the things that would indicate she's post-op.
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>>89965432
>well this is me
>no poopoo on the peepee
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>>89964375

Incredible! A flat, close-up shot of a character going from sad to mad. Willis is breaking all his own rules now!
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>>89963421
Went straight into a live fire test, eh?

>Carla steals the shoes
So much for not messing with others' personal property. Anyway, how preposterously awesome are those jug shoes going to come back.

>>89963481
>That last panel looks like another Easily Manipulated Joyce.
OK, I'll crop that out next. I usually only like to get fairly complete crops but it's alright. I might even try to finish her arm and foot.
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>>89964887
Hit by a train.
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>>89964231
I've known quite a few trans men, and it's actually pretty much impossible to tell with all of them once they're fully transitioned and have had enough testosterone to make up for lost time. They can grow facial hair and have deeper voices and everything.

One of the trans women I know was already effeminate in appearance, so she's pulling it off pretty well. Except for the sorta obvious falsetto. She has an amazing vocal range and can pull off nearly every part of passing.

I think it really depends on the person. There are plenty of trans people who don't pass, but I think there are just as many that do.

>>89964358
I know for a fact that Joyce doesn't know. When she's showing Becky the floor and introducing her to people, she doesn't know why Carla has her own room.

>>89964375
It's not entirely copy-pasta-d!! WHAAAT??

>>89964399
We had cleanings every weekday but not on weekends.

>>89964573
It was done entirely out of spite, on both sides.
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>>89964061
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>>89966907
I don't know why seeing this edited strip made me realize that Joyce referring to her hubris is so odd and out of character. It's just weird and doesn't make sense for her.
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>>89965261
>underdeveloped and non-functional
Preposterous.
Carla has a gigantic she-dong which will impregnate Mary and everyone will live happily ever after.
Except ruth and billie, fuck them. Ruth's gonna get hit by a truck while billie watches, and in turn she'll drink herself to death.
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>>89964887
He's still alive. He just uploaded something on his tumblr a while ago.

I guess he finally got bored with us? If so, thank god.
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>>89966607
>I know for a fact that Joyce doesn't know. When she's showing Becky the floor and introducing her to people, she doesn't know why Carla has her own room.
Then maybe what we're supposed to guess is that everybody knows, but it's an open secret that nobody really wants to talk about. An elephant in the room, if you will.

>It's not entirely copy-pasta-d!! WHAAAT??
Nah, there's still copying and pasting. I think Willis' art flow is that he draws character line-art first before doing backgrounds, and he sketches, inks, and colors flats into the line-art before copying/pasting, after which he goes in and changes minor details such as facial expressions or arm movements and adds shadows/highlights.

>It was done entirely out of spite, on both sides.
What is it with Willis and spite? I'd hate to see him at a high school reunion and he just tries to shove it in everybody else's face how he's a self-employed webcomic artist before realizing that either nobody cares and they all have better paying jobs than him, or everybody's happy for him regardless of their own place in life.

>>89967043
I feel the same way. It just comes off as forced, like the joke is in the dialogue and not in Joyce actually receiving a comeuppance for her makeshift shoes.
I think the joke is that we're supposed to be laughing at Joyce for being so silly about her bathroom shoes.

>>89967435
Nah, this is the DoA universe where everybody that isn't lesbianism gets reversed from the Walkyverse.
So Ruth's gonna be the one to hit somebody while driving.
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>>89963421
I want to contaminate Joyce's butt, if you know what I mean.
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>>89963481
Titled as such, despite there not being a butt in the image.

Seriously, the legs just kinda go to a connection that doesn't really become a body part.
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>>89966607
>When she's showing Becky the floor and introducing her to people, she doesn't know why Carla has her own room.

Carla has her own room because she's a second-year student. There's no mystery or 'but... why does she have one?' aspect to this.

Unless this university functions drastically different than the others I'm familiar with, second-years pretty much get single rooms on demand. You can have a roommate if you still want one, but most students go with the extra privacy and space of a single.

Wills would probably know this if he'd actually completed more than one year at university.
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>>89971391
Where I went to school, if you wanted a private room, you had to have a medical reason or pay double. You have to pay for both sides of the room since you're using the entire thing and not just half of it like normal. Not sure how other schools work, but that's what I know.
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>>89970866
A leg going into another leg

>>89971391
>>89971688
Non-freshmen usually get priority on single rooms, but it's completely possible to end up sharing a room (though situations like Sarah's, where she's sharing a room with another freshman, are pretty rare now that I think about it). The cost does go up for a single, but this is Carla, heir to the Rutter Barony we're talking about. Her parents would just have to sell a few extra super lasers to pay for it.

Also, is Carla a second-year? I thought the only sophomores were Ruth and Sarah.
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>>89971865
As far as I know, Carla is a sophomore. I assume her medical stuff would waive the fees for a full room anyway. I went through the disability department to get my own room because I have asthma, and I can't deal with the perfumes, hairsprays, etc. that most girls use. (I of course ended up with the worst roommate possible when the dorms were overbooked and they put someone with me anyway. It lasted less than two months.)
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>>89970866
I guess since Willis has had more experience with Transformers than real people, he thinks people can swivel like that.
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>>89965941
The shoes are going to be unrecognizable, and they'll be jet pack shoes. A throwaway panel shows the original shoes in the trash, as Carla kicked the trashcan behind a door.
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>>89975131
No and yes. I want it straight from the tap, Carol!
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>>89975131
Dare I ask whom wants to try her milk?
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>>89970649
Giving people herpes isn't nice.
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>>89967435
Carla would have had a gigantic dong if she hadn't have transitioned, as such the hormones have reduced it down to merely a huge she-dong.
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>>89977713
It went from an agressive, manly, monster cock to a seductive, feminine, thicc cock.
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>>89978511
That works.
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>>89964035
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, who is this again?
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>>89981007
Mary
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>>89981007
Carla.
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>>89981007
>>89981053
>>89981580
Ack, I thought it was Sal!

I need the real answer as to properly name the file.
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>>89982213
It's Carla. It's a direct response to the comic of Carla getting out of the shower.
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>>89977713
Do hormones break the penis in all the cases?
It's pretty sad that a feminine penis can't erupt in a girly orgasm desu.
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>>89984881
In most cases long term hormone usage prevents the penis from getting hard, but many transwomen report being able to achieve full or partial erections while on hormones. It doesn't stop them from ejaculating during orgasm.
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>>89984881
Not everything has to revolve around your fetish
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bump for patreanon
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patreanon has abandoned us, we are left here to rot
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>>89986663
>>89987034
It's been 15 minutes, settle down. Jesus.
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>>89985390
You take that back.
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I wonder if the psychotic alt-left really see themselves like this. Like superheroes patrolling campus to stop the patriarchy, manspreading and other made-up non-problems that distract them from their own perpetual worthlessness.
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>>89987151
Well, the alt-right seem to think that way, so maybe
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>>89987309
Yeah the alt-right is all about stopping manspreading, I can see you thought that over a long time before replying.
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>>89987151
>>89987309
>>89987343
political horseshoe theory, holmes
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>>89987034
RIP patreanon, the flirting and hero worship was too much for even his broad towel-covered chest to handle.
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>>89987343
I think anon was saying that the alt-right view the regressive left as seeing themselves as superheros stopping the patriarchy, manspreading, and other made-up non-problems to distract them from their own perpetual worthlessness.
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>>89987410
Who else will fight the war to protect Christmas if not the heroes of the alt-right?
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>>89987410
Nah, I meant that the alt-right sees itself as a bunch of superheroes protecting good and honest people from the horror of *gasp* minorities and the poor.
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I haven't followed these threads in forver, is this all happening in the same month still?
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>>89988001
Yes.
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>away to LP shadow dragon on /v/
>nobody has yet posted the new page
what happened to the others?

>>89988001
they're at around week 6 now I believe.
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>>89987731
>minorities and the poor
Those are actually real world problems, though.
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>>89988035
oh no, we ARE going to be focusing more on Joyce's bathroom shoes than Joyce's role in the Rapin' Ryan story.

I feel like we're setting up for a throwaway strip at Mary's expense, though. I dunno.

Either way, this is just another whole lotta nothing. Billis appears out of nowhere for no reason, too, other than to show how even from a distance Willis can't draw feet.

Anyways, the password is "tensile".
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>>89988035
I don't even know how to respond to this.

Is this quirkiness? Is it supposed to be endearing?
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>>89988035
>do you even Math?
>See what I can do and feel stupid for even trying
>stand in your shadow as a bug a terrible pitiful bug
>for trying to hide her body by showering at night she's walking down the hallway that has 2 other people

I feel like my head is about to explode from all the stupid
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>>89988035
Carla can take Billie in a fight, so she doesn't have to give a shit about that drunken bitch stomping around.
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>>89988035
>suck my dick physically and verbally and i'll overengineer a solution to a problem that somebody else already solved for you
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>>89988035
What the hell is wrong with her nose in that first panel?

That said, "it's a compound word" is actually kinda funny. Reminds me of the grammar jokes Phineas and Ferb used to do.

The rest of it is as bad as always. Carla's dialogue hurts to read.
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>>89988035
It really seems like

a) Willis has fantasies of acting like a confident, condescending know-it-all
b) Willis does not know enough about anything remotely useful/practical to actually BE a confident, condescending know-it-all
c) Willis uses Carla to live out his confident, condescending know-it-all fantasies without getting called out on it because transgirls have been dealt a shit hand in life and are therefore *entitled* to be obnoxious and insulting whenever they want, obviously

I wonder how much further Willis plans on pushing this. He's already in dangerous waters with his fanbase; I wonder what it would take for Carla to be declared out of line about ANYTHING.
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>>89988035
No one asked you, Carla. Just let Joyce go get the plastic baggies Sarah bought her.
Also is that supposed to be Billie angrily stalking past? Because she has a very 8I face that doesn't really look angry.
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>>89883603
How anyone can take this seriously as a drama escapes me.
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>>89988206
>a solution to a problem that somebody else already solved for you
Yeah, seriously, why doesn't she just go back and use the disposable shoes?
Why is this a legit storyline?
And what will the intense melodramatic payoff be at the end, since the more frivolous the hijinks are the more the comic has to whiplash into extreme seriousness.
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>>89988270
>He's already in dangerous waters with his fanbase

I just came back to these threads after a long break. What did he do?
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>>89988270
THIS is the freedom that Carla was talking about when she was telling Ruth that she is used to being everyone's losses.
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>>89988102
>oh no, we ARE going to be focusing more on Joyce's bathroom shoes than Joyce's role in the Rapin' Ryan story.
FML. I hope one of his actual fans brings this up.

>>89988145
Carla is not as smart as she thinks she is.

>>89988271
If you look really really really carefully at the box Sarah got, it has a shoe on the side. So she bought her one pair of disposable shoes. Hope it lasts her the rest of her college career.

Also, she could totally hang her shoes on a coat hook inside or outside the room.
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>>89987731
C'mon now. Let's not live up to the /co/umblr meme here.
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>>89988035
...
the failure point wasn't tensile, it was compressive. it buckled under weight, not pulled apart. and whatever fucking solution carla wants to cook up, it isn't going to be a cost effective one since joyce is set on throwing them away after a single use, because she'd have to either replace the cheap water jugs with something that can support more than 100 lbs, or she'll have to build in some sort of latticework to distribute the load.

meanwhile, sarah has a BOX of DISPOSABLE SHOES that are BULK MANUFACTURED AND SOLD for as much as one of whatever Carla can cook up would cost.

but hey, she made a pivoting arm to pie Mary and borrowed some projector lights that her parent's R&D made to spell out "I'M NOT INSECURE." i'm sure she can do a fifth grade craft project the same way.
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>>89964729
It still escapes me how this is supposed to be a villainous "WHY AM I ALONE?!" moment.

Yeah, Mary was a dick. Mary was also totally correct about this shit. The later half is just her being bullied for actually wanting to study.
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>>89988437
I just thought that was the product image--there's not like 'one pair' written on the box or anything. It looks like closed shoes though, I'd expect those cheap foam pedicure sandals.
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>>89988474
I have trouble hating a "villain" whose only weapon is the obvious misdeeds of their enemies.
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>>89988477
alt-right and rad-left are ridiculous for similar reasons, go find a different thread/board/site if you want to hash that out. we're talking about a crappy webcomic in this one
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>>89988522
Hey, I wasn't the one who brought in the rad-left. Blame the other guy.
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>>89988035
>So[,] Billie's pretty mad at you about Ruth, huh?
I wonder if this will segue into them bonding over Billie being a huge bitch, rather than any sort of examination of why Carla did what she did.
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>>89988522
>rad-left
This is the first time I've seen that term.
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>>89988611
it's a truncation of "radical left."
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>>89988661
Yes I got that, I've seen stuff like "radfem" before.
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>>89988577
Having difficulties with making it transparent, because I am lazy, but it seems like this would be a useful exploitable.
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>>89988853
I gotchu, famiglia, good eye.
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>>89988875
I knew I liked this place for a reason! Thanks!
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>post was deleted because it criticized leftism
This place really is /co/umblr.
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>>89989620
For one thing, Carla is already in the bathroom when Joyce shows up.

Another thing: Carla is a butthead. That doesn't mean all trans women are buttheads.
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>>89989620
As a girl, fuck off. You just don't want to mistake a trans woman, a girl you wouldn't fuck, for a cis woman, a girl you would fuck. We're all just objects to you.
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>>89989683
>man lays in wait in female bathroom to point on an unsuspecting student
Not any better.
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>>89989716
Get some help.
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>>89988035
Ok. Carla's full of herself and an asshole but she's still like my 3rd favorite cuz I like unapologetic assholes.

That said I don't at all understand her fascination with this baby level arts and crafts project. Like why would Joyce have applied any sort of math or engineering into "water jugs to keep her feet off the filthy bathroom floor"


Also is Carla just gonna walk through the halls in a towel. I mean I'm not gonna judge I'm enjoying the view (Or I'd say that if the art was better) but it seems a little odd.
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>>89989760
Help to crush the patriarchy?
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>>89988380
I love how Ruth comes to Carla's aid and Carla STILL finds a way to blame her for what happens. Despite WATCHING. WATCHING. Mary black mail Ruth. To her face. WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE RUTH'S BACK, CARLA? YOU JUST SAT THERE AND WATCHED THAT SHIT.

That is hands down the most infuriating thing about that arc.
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>>89989733
Carla was just taking a shower, like a normal human being. Not everyone is a predator, regardless of gender. Stop trying to make this about gender. Carla is just a terrible and annoying person.

As a girl, I would rather have 5 Carlas in the bathroom than put up with people who try to police other people's personal business.

When you're in the bathroom, you're generally hoping to keep to yourself and not make eye contact with anyone. Carla was taking a shower at night to avoid being around people.

Carla's superiority complex, however, deemed that Joyce's problem needed to be fixed so Carla could show off.

Keep your head out of our bathroom and stop trying to say that Carla is being predatory. Carla is annoying, not predatory, here.
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>>89989786
Because Dave Willis is a bad writer.

>>89989788
lol
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>>89989786
Carla literally has no plot lines since the Mary thing got solved and she has no more stake in the Ruth/Billie storyline so Willis had to make a new one for her no matter how stupid and clumsily
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>>89988474
I can get everyone not liking her because of this. What I don't get is the comment's sections ACTUAL INSISTENCE that Mary tried to have Ruth Kill herself and that she was technically performing attempted murder or some form of assisted suicide. The victim complex of the people who read this comic is so fucking off the charts.
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>>89989716
>Implying I wouldn't fuck anything that looks like a girl

I don't understand the hangup really. If I'm attracted to something I'm gonna fuck it. Who care's what it genetically is. If they look sexy to me and is of consenting age (and we're both humans) then why shouldn't I put my dick in them? I'd rather be called gay than not have sex.
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>>89989813
What does Carla care about Ruth trying to help her if she fails? If you can't show results, then you get the guilt trip!
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>>89989842
Yeah, it goes like this:
>Carla annoys Mary
>Mary fights back
>Mary is actually trying to bother Ruth

Freakin' nonsense.

>>89989883
I'm not trans, but I appreciate this sentiment.
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>>89989815
Personally I agree with you. That said I think the above anon is trolling and you're wasting your arguments on them.

And even if they're NOT you're wasting your arguments on them. You won't change their mind and they won't change your mind. It'll just keep going on until it makes this thread somehow WORSE.
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>>89988478
I bet he put no thought into it because they will never come out of that box.
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>>89988035
>engineering student has heightened sense of superiority
>carla is a cunt
Consistent with the rest of the comic and reality, really.
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>>89990334
Willis doesn't care about Chekhov's gun. It doesn't need to fire as long as it distracts from important issues.
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>>89990634
Like shower shoes?
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>>89988035

Carla manages to make himself look like an even BIGGER narcissist than ever before.

Maybe he represents Willis' narcissism.
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>>89988437

>Carla is not as smart as she thinks she is.

That seems to be a theme with Carla. Thinking they're something he's not
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>>89989683
>>89989716

>/co/mblr

Triggered
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>>89989842

Well since Willy has changed it to conform to that expectation I guess it's moot now.
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>>89989786
Half of the girls on my freshman hall went to and from the bathrooms in a towel. It was probably my 4th or 6th favorite thing about the dorm, after, you know, important stuff like proximity to classes and such.

>>89989911
Not her, but sometimes it's just satisfying to lay into someone with bad opinions. And people who conflate Carla's shittiness with her gender are always a good target
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>>89992651

It's not about Carla's gender

It's about the gender he is not
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>>89989842
Let's try to figure this out in a classic But/Therefore manner.

So Ruth and Billie are seeing each other.
BUT Mary learns about this.
THEREFORE... Nothing.

Later on, Carla is skating in the hallway and Mary asks her to stop.
BUT Carla refuses.
THEREFORE Mary ruins her skates.
BUT Carla continues causing a ruckus.
THEREFORE Mary makes a transphobic statement.
BUT Ruth enters the scene out of nowhere.
THEREFORE Mary reveals her ploy to blackmail Ruth in order to bring an actual sense of peace to the floor.
BUT nobody listens to Mary.
THEREFORE... Nothing.

Meanwhile, Ruth and Billie have to hide evidence of their tryst, and it leads to the two separating (despite living on the same goddamn floor).
BUT Ruth apparently can't handle being broken up due to some kind of crippling co-dependency issue, possibly an internal idea linking physical affection and validation.
THEREFORE Ruth succumbs to depression and considers suicide-by-sleeping.
BUT Carla, for some reason or other, realizes this is happening and that Ruth is "suicidal".
THEREFORE she tells Billie about this, who subsequently barges in to check on her.
BUT... Nothing.

I don't see how Mary is linked to Ruth's suicidal tendencies, save perhaps for her being at the door when Billie barges in.
I dunno. I guess Willis has the problem that Marvel Comics has and there aren't enough villains to go around, so he makes antagonists out of anybody.
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>>89988446
While there is not anything inherently wrong with tumbr's politics, you don't have to be /co/mblr to be opposed to nazis.
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>>89988496
Still doesn't excuse her use of slurs. Bigots are never in the right.
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>>89994421
She's a bitch, for sure. But not like...scheming evil monster. Bigots exist and it's best to just ignore them when they say retarded shit. Don't' let them know they get to ya. Mary's only power over people is strictly verbal and even then no one likes her so basically she has absolutely no leverage.
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>>89994421
Yeah, but it's pretty annoying that his fans think that Mary was going after Carla because of transphobia.

Mary was mad at Carla, because Carla was being a jerk. It doesn't excuse the slur, but Carla should have understood that when she acts like a terrible person, people are going to be terrible right back.
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>>89989842
She actually wanted to not have her kill herself, so that she could continue to blackmail her. She was suggesting that up until the very end.
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>>89999164
Yep, because you can't blackmail someone who's already dead.
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