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>the samurai is trying to go back to the past again

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>the samurai is trying to go back to the past again
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>>89875320
JUMP GOOD
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NOTICE ME, SAMURAI
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>>89875400
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>>89875455
Checked
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>>89875455
Evil.
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>>89875320
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>>89875523

Unspeakable
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>>89875588
why the fuck does he start laughing while the phone is ringing
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GREAT FLAMING EYEBROWS
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>People still help him to delete their very existance
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>>89875614

Because minions.
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How do you think things would turn out if Jack actually accepted a ride from Aku?
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>>89875658
My best guess is the series finale will be something along the lines of:
>Jack defeats Aku
>Is given an ultimatum, either return to the past to prevent this all from happening or continue to live in the future and reverse the desolation caused by Aku

The only question is which he'll go with. After all, if he goes back to the past, there's no guarantee he'll beat Aku again, or that the world won't turn out as shit regardless. Sorta like right now.
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>>89875766
They would've gotten their quicker.
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>Aku will never tell you fairy tales
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>>89875766
It probably would've been an awkward ride, but they would've been there sooner.
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>>89875658
Wouldn't you? You get a sort of decent end to your current life with the knowledge that via the causality of your effect on Jack, your existence not only lives on but is the force that fucked up Aku.
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>>89875789
Given that the rest of the -verse (like PPG) happens in Jack's bad end you would imagine that he doesn't.
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>>89875879
I'd prefer the stay in the future ending, personally. It works on a lot of levels and would be a good way of finishing up Jack's character.
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>>89875789
Jack can beat Aku no problem. Even since the very beginning of the series. Dude only ever slips away through portal shenanigans.
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>>89875835
No. I would prefer existing while also not having my entire past retroactivly nullified
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>>89875320
to play the shitty games that suck ass?
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>>89875658
The laws of time travel Samurai Jack uses is unknown, but given the appearance of Old jack, some form of predestination may be in place. Certain events, certain individuals, may happen regardless in some way outside of dramatic shifts at key moments in the timeline. Even if Jack were to go back, him defeating Aku may simply move the universe to a new Worldline, where people's counterparts may still meet each other in similar matters, but without a galactic dictatorship in place.
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>>89875364
I hate how many times JUMP GOOD could come in handy, but Jack never uses it after that episode.
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>>89875658
Aku sort of made life a living hell, so maybe they'd prefer not to exist if it means a reality where this horribleness never came to be plus there's always the chance they could exist in the good future.
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>>89875966
Okay, we'll there's no guarntee that he doesn't do the exact same thing as last time and this loops forever.
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>>89876129
We have no idea how many times Aku can replicate his trick or how exactly he did it.
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>>89876009
>Worldline
Stiens gate has fucking retarded time travel. Stop that. This is coming from someone who went for lore retard over the semantics of it too.
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>>89876009
One person not having met their potential wife/husband and every offspring and its interactions with the world would not happen

>>89876036
There are still enough that should not want to be erased. Like the people who menaged to flee Earth or the monks who hide away
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>>89876154
>We have no idea how many times Aku can replicate his trick or how exactly he did it.

Autistically screech at your opponent when you're losing until they're sent flying hundreds of years into the future? Because that's exactly what he did.
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>>89875320
SHUT UP!
I'M TRYING TO SLEEP!
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What if this is not the first time Jack is in this timeline and everytime Jack comes close to defeating him, Aku resets time?
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>>89875666
satanic trips confirm
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>>89876239
I like to believe that Aku is not sending Jack into the past or future because it makes him inmortal, as we know that is a side-effect of time travel.

If Aku kept sending Jack back or foward he wouldn't have to worry about 1 jack, he would have to worry about many. I mean that's how it works, right?
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>>89876202
>jack defeats Aku
>goes back to the past now unhindered
>tries to defeat Aku
>reeed into the future again
>it's the same future
>Aku is still dead
>jack tries again
>Aku gloats and says he could keep sending him back as much as he wants
>turns out Aku had already had multiple fights with Jack and 'won'
>future could never change because it was always like that and Jack would always defeat Aku before heading back and getting sent forward
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>>89876030
He mainly uses it for the horse cut or whatever. It meshes poorly with the rest of his fighting style.
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>>89876009
Probably predestination.
Anything else causes a metanarrative paradox.
The series couldn't take place unless Jack didn't defeat Aku, at least not in the past. If he had, he wouldn't have been thrown into the future in the first place. That time loop would be closed.

It's more likely that he defeats Aku without going back into the past. Maybe he defeats the guardian and has access, but is all:

>No. We do not fight for our past; we fight for our future.

And resolves to defeat Aku in the here and now instead of trying to keep going back.
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>>89876009
I'm hoping that time travel in Samurai Jack is at least a bit like pic related.
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>>89876481
Doctor who is the only time travel more retarded than S;G. The only difference is, S;G is well written and entertaining in spite of that.
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>>89876481
Time travel done right
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>>89876559
Doctor Who also has fixed points in time (like Pompeii), which Aku sending Jack into the future (or Jack being sent period) might very well be.
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>>89876837
I know how it works. I said it was retarded.
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FOOLISH
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>>89876877
Scientifically? Absolutely.

Plotwise? It's brilliant - you have both change and predestination. "Why doesn't the Doctor stop WWII?" It's a fixed point. "But he saved so many others!" They weren't. "Why can't he go back and help himself against [enemy x] and stop its carnage?" Can't mess with your own timeline. "But he did just that in the 50th anniversary special!" Time war doesn't follow the usual rules.

And so on. You have both a seemingly cohesive system and unlimited opportunities for shenanigans.
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>>89876481
>bigass TV
>tons of DVDs laying about
>landline on your desk
This screencap is unintentionally super 00s.
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>>89875835
>no death
>just non-existence

I've dreamed of this so many times, I'd help Jack even if there were no Aku
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So are we gonna see the gate guardian again?
Will jack kick HIS ass this time?
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They could easily just say that all the characters he's met so far were already destined to exist, and that by changing the past he would be letting them be born into a better life than the one they've experienced. Everyone from the hoodrats in the first episode would still be born but not into a world of evil
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>>89876481
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>>89877908
Yeah but what about the versions of them already there? Do they just fade to nonexistence or do they go on?
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>>89875658
I mean, how many WWII soldiers would have been willing to sacrifice themselves to defeat the axis?

People are pretty willing to walk to their deaths if they can find personal meaning and necessity in it. We crave meaning and purpose.
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Was bored.
Traced OPs pic.
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The lack of Rare Akus is disturbing
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>>89878017
"already there" is a loaded term, and only makes sense from the perspective of the future. Jack isn't from the future, these people to him, were already going to lead happy lives if not for Aku. He's the thing that changed their lives into an unnatural state.
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>>89878208
thanks for the wallpaper m8
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>>89876450
>Aku could have killed Jack in his sleep the whole time
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>>89877999
I keep telling this to Doctor Who fans (and Homestuck fans, and other shitty sci-fi-fantasy fans) but they don't seem to understand.
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>>89878334
Quick vision to what the future holds.
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>Aku is shitposting in this thread as we speak
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I get that Jack beating Aku in the past is what makes most sense, but the future Aku is the one that had all the experiences with him, Jack is THAT Aku's worst enemy instead of some schmuk he threw into the future
So I want the final battle to be with him
Afterwards they could do something like when Trunks went back to beat Cell
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>>89877504
>Plotwise? It's brilliant

You say brilliant, I just say lazy. It's just an easy way for writers to have their cake and eat it too by making up arbitrary rules on the fly whenever something doesn't make sense.
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>>89878681
Please don't lump Dr Who in with Homestuck.
And yes the time travel often doesn't make sense (as much as a fictional science can anyways), but the explanations aren't THAT bad.
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>>89878910
>making up rules
>For a fantasy made up science
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>>89878946
>Please don't lump Dr Who in with Homestuck.
The Dr Who super fandom is only slightly less autistic than Homestuck's. Dr Who just has a lot more normies lumped in with them.
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>>89879032
My point is that it's an excuse to break its own rules. "Doesn't this completely ruin the whole plot?" "Eh fuck it, just say you can't change it because we said so." repeat x100.

It's lazy writing used by people who can't write themselves out of a corner.
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>>89879038
>slightly less autistic than Homestuck's
Haven't there been instances of Homestuck fans making out and dry humping in the middle of cons?
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>>89879108
Yup. I've got a buddy who goes to cons for the fighting game tournaments, and he saw adult Homestuck fans playing spin the bottle with middle schoolers.
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>>89879038
there is the classicWho fandom that's has a strong sperg vein the whole time, but its old school sci-fi fandom so there is a level of power level control that's expected.
nuWho fans are heavily drawn from the social media generation fandom where even suggesting self control is RAAAAAAAAPE!11
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>>89879096
>>89879286
homestuck fans shitlisted themselves with the con community just by refusing to seal their body paint and grappleraping other cosplayers
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>>89879458
>refusing to seal their body paint

explain
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In Jack Versus Mad Jack, Jack rid himself of hatred. For the rest of the show he seems to hate Aku. Does that mean the FOOLISH SAMURAI doesn't actually hate Aku, but is actually tsundere for him?
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>>89877504
>seemingly cohesive system
Nothing about that system seems cohesive.

Unless you got an actual solution to the grandfather paradox, it's all logically contradictory bullshit.
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>>89879546
I think he learns to control his anger. Getting your emotions under control doesn't get rid of them entirely.
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http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/2/9/14560830/samurai-jack-preview-season-5

Greg Baldwin confirmed as Aku
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>>89879511
That's probably a euphemism for spitting on other people
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>>89879619
Tell that to the Jedi
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>>89875320
>Ey yo, it's your Boy, Aku
>Since the day I've been living without umbilical cord
>I've been keeping the score
>I've been wanting it more
>Some might call me a whore
>But not any fucking more
>Samurai this relationship has really been one sided
>Samurai I am sorry but I think you've been misguided
>But now it's your turn to pay me back
>Samurai please bend over and suck my ass
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>>89879667
>George Lucas screenwriting
Speaking of revivals by the original creator decades after the original series...
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>>89879511
retards painting themselves gray and not using a seal product to keep their pain off of other people.
google "homestuck cosplay unsealed body paint" for accounts of their shitcockery
>>89879650
not that I've heard but lack of body fluid control wouldn't be suprising.
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>>89879719
No matter how hard I try, I cannot read this in his voice.
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>>89876559
There is absolutely no non retarded time travel. There is no way to make a good time travel plot. The nearest you can get is travelling back to the past to permanently change the future, said future being irreversibly destroyed by this process.

The CW shows are the most retarded time travel shows, however.
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>>89879801
I love some of the CW shows, but damn, they have the wackest timetravel rules, and don't even stick to THEM!
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>>89879801
>There is absolutely no non retarded time travel
What if you strictly go into the future?
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>>89879847
Hey man I only know they're retarded because I watch em. Well, Flash and occasionally LoT.
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>>89879801
>There is absolutely no non retarded time travel
Wrong. There is no correct theory of time travel, however there are more servicable, detailed and internally consistent theories in fiction that don't work entirely however an author wants so he can write whatever he likes like S;G and Doctor Who
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>>89879923
There are people in the future.
Your future is their past.
Functionally there is no difference between travelling forward or backward.
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>>89879923
Then that's not really time travel in the unconventional sense the term is used in sci fi to represent. By that logic every show is a time travel show because goddamn it they all show people travelling into the future.

Might as well just call my wardrobe a fucking time machine because time will have passed between going in and coming out of it. I'll sell it. Make millions.

>>89879971
No they're all flat retarded. The best you can get for logical consistency is the reliance on a multiverse, but that is still retarded.
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>>89879971
The important thing is that you stick to a set of rules. As much as I love the first two Terminator movies, it drives me up the wall that T2's rules on time travel directly contradict T1's.
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>>89880060
My preferred form of logical consistency is when attempts to change the past result in you participating in it instead.
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>>89880060
>No they're all flat retarded. The best you can get for logical consistency is the reliance on a multiverse, but that is still retarded.
If it's logically consistent and serves the plot well, then how is it more retarded than any other sci-fi concept?
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Why can't you faggots stick to one thread?
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>>89879801
You're wrong on two counts.
1) If you change the past in any way that affects the future, you create a grandfather paradox. In your example, you come from [FUTURE] and you then destroy [FUTURE] so it doesn't exist; where did you come from then?
2) The only way to write a logically consistent time-travel plot is through causal loops. See: 12 Monkeys, Dirk Gently. What happened has always happened, nothing ever changes. This is logically consistent and probably consistent with general relativity.
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>>89880188
See that isn't logically consistent at all, because the first domino that knocked the second domino is also the last domino. As entertainment, I enjoy them, but no from a logic standpoint they're actually the most retarded, unless they somehow, over a period of multiple loops stabilised it.
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>>89878681
I like Doctor Who because when it's done correctly it's the most hilariously semi-self aware camp available on television. Of course the newer series has been filled with shit writers and a show runner who's idea of story telling is throwing a million plot points at the wall, watching for what sticks, making that the finale and calling it a season.
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>>89880102
>>89880060
>>89879971
The rules don't matter if the rules are self-contradictory. Changing the past in a way that affects the future is self-contradictory, so any time travel plot that involves changing the past is self-contradictory (barring alternate timelines which is not really time-travel)

The only non-self-contradictory rules of time travel are when you can't change the past.
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>>89880244
>semi-self aware camp
IF this were the case, I could bare the show. But more often than not, it's not the case. And particularly in the eyes of the fandom, it's not the case.
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>>89880309
>all rules for time travel are stupid
>except for split timeline, multiple timelines, and causal loops, which don't count.
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>>89880238
>1) If you change the past in any way that affects the future, you create a grandfather paradox. In your example, you come from [FUTURE] and you then destroy [FUTURE] so it doesn't exist; where did you come from then?
Yes but if you consider that he travelled from the destroyed future, you could at least try and say that he escaped that destruction. He exists, therefore he exists, it's more of a perspective thing. Bear in mind that he still exists as he would exist in the time he travelled to as a seperate entity, thus he's a relic of a time that will never be. You can't make any argument for causal loops in logical terms because they rely on B causing A which causes B. It's a break glass using hammer to get hammer conundrum.
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>>89875320
> people here overthinking the Time Travel on Samurai Jack

Niggas, this won't be anything complex. The most likely, is that Jack won't go back to the past.

IF JACK GOES BACK TO THE PAST AND KILL AKU, the most likely is just that there will be some sort of wave energy in the future making everything look like it would if AKU had never conquered the world, with ALL THE characters that Jack faced intact.

I seriously doubt that Genndy would put complex discussion regarding changing the time line, it is not his style. If anything, it will just be like Ego Trip from Dexter's Laboratory, where everything was solved with a healing wave.

Samurai Jack is a GOOFY show, where this kind of thing would happen.
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>>89880376
What? That's not what the post says at all. If you want to >imply it:
>self-contradictory rules are stupid
>the only form of time travel that's not self-contradictory is causal loops
>multiple timelines are not really time travel
I hope that helps our friends who can't understand things that aren't written in green text.
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>>89880309
>The only non-self-contradictory rules of time travel are when you can't change the past.
Everything effects the future. This is where it always bugs me, affecting the past doesn't mean affecting a HUMAN'S past. On a cosmic scale, an atom matters as much as a human. By virtue of time travel, you have changed the past, there is no such thing as time travel to the past where you can't change the past.

>>89880417
Not overthinking the time travel in FOOLISH SAMURAI Jack, Samurai Jack never even tried to pretend to make sense so it's not even a question worth asking. Just talking about time travel.
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>>89880392
>thus he's a relic of a time that will never be
If that makes sense in your head, you need to think about it a little more.

>You can't make any argument for causal loops in logical terms
On the contrary, causal loops are the only logically self-consistent forms of time travel.
>It's a break glass using hammer to get hammer conundrum.
No, it's not. Clearly you haven't thought any of this through.
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>>89880488
>By virtue of time travel, you have changed the past
Unless it was that way all along, hence "causal loop"
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>>89880447
You don't consider split timeline to be real time travel? Because that doesn't contradict anything.
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>>89880541
Nope. Split timelines aren't time travel. Allow me to ASCII-illustrate:

Timeline A: ------------------------
Timelien B: -----------------------

Whatever you do to timeline A doesn't affect B and vice-versa. What you're calling time-travel is actually travelling to an alternate universe.
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>>89880503
>Clearly you haven't thought any of this through.
Again I didn't say it wasn't retarded, just the least retarded.

And no, you're the one not thinking your theory through. A loop can't just appear, it has to HAVE a cause. Logically, if B cannot happen unless A happens first, then B can never be the cause for A to happen, because A MUST have happened before it. I mean, if Brad Pitt never saw his future self, he never would have travelled back in time, at least not to that time. We can surmise that he never saw his future self the very first time he was there, thus we can surmise he never travelled back in time. Like I said it's an entertaining theory but it really doesn't make a lick of sense.

It doesn't make sense at all because the loop can't have just appeared out of nowhere. All things must have a cause, including the creation of that causal loop.
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>>89880619
What I'm saying is that by going into the past, you create a branch on the old timeline, with the 'old' branch being the one you came from. It solves the grandfather paradox by separating the causes that led to your travelling from any effects you may have.
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>>89880688
>it has to HAVE a cause
Nope; this illustrates that you haven't thought this through. All events have a cause, right? Then what was the first cause? Did the first cause have a cause? If you answered "there is no first cause" or "the first cause doesn't have a cause" then there you have it; either an infinitely-recurring set of causes (like a causal loop!) or an event without a cause (like a causal loop!) Congratulations, you have now thought things through.

And "relic of a time that will never be" is still self-contradictory. Want me to walk you through that one?
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>>89880769
Exactly, and it's not time-travel, it's creating an alternate universe. No matter what you do, you can't travel to the past and change the future; you create a new future, but the old future is still there. Want to save your love interest? Too bad, she still dies in your original universe; you just created an alternate universe where she doesn't die.

Alternate timelines turns tume-travel into "travelling into a different universe that looks like an earlier version of your universe"
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>>89879546
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>>89880848
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>>89875789
Option 3: Jack realized that by changing the timeline in the past, he would un-make all his friends and allies in the future and so instead, goes back in time and leads his people into the now Aku-free future. The timeline-altering problem is why the portal didn't allow him in the first time, and the leading-them-to-the-future solution is why he found his village abandoned with no signs of struggle.
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>>89880833
>Exactly, and it's not time-travel, it's creating an alternate universe. No matter what you do, you can't travel to the past and change the future; you create a new future, but the old future is still there. Want to save your love interest? Too bad, she still dies in your original universe; you just created an alternate universe where she doesn't die.

Now you're arguing two separate points. Just because you can't save *your* timeline, doesn't mean it's not time travel. Going back to the past to create a new timeline is still time travel.
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>>89880775
If you're asking me how or why or even if the universe was created, I don't know buddy. But there's a lot of things I don't know. One thing I do know is you're full of shit. If your theory relies on some omnipotent being laying out a set timeline that will always be or something, then any time travel is possible under a god, so all of them make equal sense because fuckit it's a god, it doesn't have to obey cause and effect. All known event have a cause. Eery single one. It would be illogical to assume an event existed without a cause.

And I know it's self contradictory, this is the third time I've called it retarded.
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>>89880915
>Going back to the past to create a new timeline is still time travel.
What's the difference between going to an alternate universe that looks like the 1930s and killing Hitler, and "time-travelling" to the 1930s and killing Hitler, but having it not affect your "original timeline" at all?

You see, "timeline" is a misnomer, and your "time machine" is a machine that takes you to alternate universes that look like earlier-time versions of your universe.
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>>89878946
>Dr. Who / L&S crossover.
I'm both slightly disgusted and intrigued.
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>>89880932
>If your theory relies on some omnipotent being laying out a set timeline that will always be
It doesn't
>it doesn't have to obey cause and effect
Causal loops obey cause and effect
>I don't know buddy
>All known event have a cause. Eery single one
Then why don't you answer the question: did the "first event" have a cause? Or alternatively, is there a "first event" at all, or just an infinite regression of causes?

If you actually think and answer those questions, you'll see that causal loops are no different from any other event.
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Causal loops make the LEAST sense of any timetravel shenanigans.
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>>89881089
>Then why don't you answer the question: did the "first event" have a cause? Or alternatively, is there a "first event" at all, or just an infinite regression of causes?
Again, you are asking me for knowledge I don't have the answer to. But that doesn't mean the answer doesn't exist. I know that I don't know everything, that doesn't mean everything I don't know didn't occur. Who even says there was a first event?
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>>89881200
>>89881089
Let me spell it out, so nobody's confused.
Either the universe always obeys cause and effect, or it doesn't.
1) If it doesn't, then things can "just happen" magically and this discussion is useless.
2) If it does, then:
Either we follow effects back to their causes until we reach the first cause (or a set of simultaneous first causes, which can be regarded as a single first cause if we want to), or there's an infinite regression of causes that never ends.
2.1) If there's a first cause (or causes), then something can be caused out of nothing
2.2) If there isn't a first cause but an infinite regression of causes, then something can have an infinite regression of causes.

These are all the options available. You can either choose 1 (magical universe), 2.1 (cause-and-effect universe with a first-cause) or 2.2 (cause-and-effect universe with an infinite regression of causes)

These are the ONLY options, logically speaking.

>Who even says there was a first event?
You have to choose, either a first-event (or first-group-of-events) or an infinite recursion of causes.

This is what is called "thinking things through".

Now that we have done that, you can see that causally looped events are no different, causally speaking, from any other event in 2.1 or 2.2

As an added bonus if you're religious then your universe is 1, and this discussion is useless.
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>>89880060
>reliance on a multiverse
Many worlds is bullshit, if that's what you meant.

>>89880102
This is true. Consistency is the most important thing, however there are some more sensible and approachable theories than others.

>>89880309
>the only non-selfcontradictory
This isn't true however, but the rest of your points are legit.
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>>89875658
I suspect there'll be a Dragon Ball Z situation.

Jack beats Aku in the future, earning tbe right to return to the past and absolutely decimate past Aku. So now there's a new timeline existing with the old one.
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>>89881311
>the only non-selfcontradictory
>This isn't true

Do you mean there are other non-self-contradictory options or that causal loops are self-contradictory? Either way I'm very interested in hearing about it.
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>>89881364
>I am very interested
Not sure if passive aggression. Well you have things like the every-time-you-travel-backwards-you-create-a-new-dimension
Theory.

You could also speculate that while time travel is the manipulation of space across the plane of 'time' that there might also be a continuity and causality to the alterations upon. A meta time or a time traveler's chronology if you will.
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>>89880619
That's not true. If something in A caused an agent to travel from A into (and thus create) B, then B is still a direct chronological and causal continuation of A
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>>89881455
>every-time-you-travel-backwards-you-create-a-new-dimension Theory.
That's travelling to an alternate dimension and not "really" time-travel. You're not travelling "your" spacetime, you're travelling to a spacetime where an alternate version of your spacetime.

>A meta time
Assuming this meta-time involves alternate dimensions, it's no different than the previous example.

If you just end up in a different dimension then it's not "really" time travel, it's like-time-travel-but-not.
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>>89881513
>B is still a direct chronological and causal continuation of A
Yes but what you do to B doesn't affect A.
Let's say we're in 2017A. You travel to 1939B and kill Hitler. 2017A still exists. Did you travel in time or did you travel to an alternate dimension?

Hence, alternate-universe-time-travel is not time travel, it only looks like time travel. It's indistinguishable from travelling to an alternate universe, but distinguished from time-travel because you can never be part of your "original" universe.
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>>89881455
>A meta time
Yeah that's what I was talking about earlier here >>89879801. If you perceive in your fictional universe, that the time that can be traveled in runs on another timeline, a timeline for time, that shows when people travel through time, you can make an argument for people not creating a paradox, because while the timeline they came from is now unreachable for them, it still happened, thus they can still exist.
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>>89881570
>your space time
Except that you are. The dimension is just imagery. Dimension is just one way to describe the state of that space time. In none of those dimensional theroies are you capable of reutrning. You substitute one formation of space time for another (which is refered to for simplicities sake as a dimension but is still made of the same mass as the prior visitation.

The meta time wouldn't have dimensions. Consider this. If I set up an experiment with a friend after discovering time machines. I have one and they have one. At 9am I have to travel to 10:59am and stop them from travelling. At 11:00am they have to travel to 8:59am and stop me from traveling. Which traveller is stopped and why.
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>>89881690
>Which traveller is stopped and why.
These travellers aren't strictly time-travellers, they've travelled to an alternate dimension/universe/"state-of-spacetime". There is no difference between "travelling to 8:59 in an alternate universe" and "travelling to 8:59 but anything you change cannot affect the universe you came from".

And, when two things are not different, they are the same. Hence this version of "time-travel" is alternate-universe-travel.
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>>89881784
>These travellers aren't strictly time-travellers
I am not using the dimension theory in this question. I merely asking, given your base line idea of time travel (everyone has one they click with most) what would occur?
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NERRRDS!
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>>89877999
this is part of why I prefer fantasy that doesn't actually take itself seriously like Discworld, HHGTTG etc
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>>89881831
>what would occur?
You already said what would occur, and I'm saying it's not time-travel. It looks like time-travel, but it's actually travelling to alternate dimensions.
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>>89881784
>the universe you came from
Now if we WERE talking about dimensional theory what I would say is you literally affect it in a massive way. The state of space time before you jump is disolved and reconsituted into whatever change your jump has caused. You have affected the original line through reconsititution just the same as a causal loop. The only difference is that your point of origin no longer exists, but similarly, without time travel the moment of my birth no longer exists in any practical sense, and yet here I am.
It's a matter of causality not chronology.
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>>89881866
I literally just asked you what would happen. I said nothing of what would occur. It is more than possible to entertain multiple theories of time travel in the same conversation. If you won't answer the question then fine, but do not pretend as though you (or I) have.
>here's a scenario
>in your prefered model of time travel what would occur
Not that hard.
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>>89881892
>your point of origin no longer exists
You haven't thought this through. I'd rather talk to the other guy who doesn't make these entry-level mistakes.
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>>89880885
>tfw you're able to perfectly fill in those blanks
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>>89881927
Hint?
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>>89881839
I miss Terry Pratchett
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>>89881918
>I said nothing of what would occur
Uh...
>At 9am I have to travel to 10:59am and stop them from travelling. At 11:00am they have to travel to 8:59am and stop me from traveling.
Did these events occur or didn't they?
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>tfw you'll never get back
>back to the past
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>>89881924
>you haven't thought this through
Says you who is hung up on the idea of dimensional travel as something other than the alteration of space time.
>y-you're wrong fuck you
Okay man. You're not brining anything to the table and now you won't even specify your points of issue.
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>>89882019
>You're not brining anything to the table
I literally explained everything to you from first principles and you keep repeating the same mistakes.
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>>89881969
>have to
>future tense
They are the intent of the experiement. If the instructions given to myself and the friend were to do those things, what would the outcome be?
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>>89882045
>instructions
Instructions are not actions. "I instruct you to fly to the moon" doesn't mean you'll actually fly to the moon. If you wanted to say "I have flown to the moon" then we'd have something to talk about, but you just outlined "instructions".
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>>89882041
>principles
>travelling to an alternate dimension and not "really" time-travel. You're not travelling "your" spacetime, you're travelling to a spacetime where an alternate version of your spacetime.
I acknowledged this and suggested that, given you cannot freely move between them that the terminology dimension was wrong and that it was a reconstitution of the original matter across time.
>it's just an alternate version
So is literally anything you 'alter' through temporal ALTERATION
>These travellers aren't strictly time-travellers, they've travelled to an alternate dimension/universe/"state-of-spacetime
Logically false. One is a concurrent but divergent causality and space time the other is LITERALLY the same space time.
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holy shit guys they leaked the new opening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V7jPzXg7eg
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>>89882098
Are you thick? The whole point is to ask you what you're understanding and preference is in regards to time travel theories.

If two people existed an hour apart and had the intent to stop the other from potentially time travelling by means of travelling to them and restraining them, which would be successful or take effect?
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>>89882117
>the other is LITERALLY the same space time.
Uh, no. I'm sorry but you just didn't think this through. Refer to the 2017A/1939B example. If what you do in the past does not affect the "original" present, then it's identical to travelling to an alternate dimension.
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>>89882160
>had the intent
>which would be successful or take effect?
Do you realize the difference between "had the intent" and "take effect"?

"I intend to go to the moon. What would happen?"
There is no answer because you just said "intend".
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>>89882186
>identical
Except a dimension is something that occurs concurrently and is quite literally composite of different mass and energy. In fact, in theory you would be capable of travel between any potential dimension or at the very least back and forth making it entirely different from the process that I am describing.
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>>89882138
This might be fake.
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>>89882234
So were you asked, who would win in a fight, your response would be: they aren't fighting?
Are you really going to be this much of a weasel when the objective is to induce speculation and better understand your perspective? You're either intentionally baiting, extremely tired or actually very stupid
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>>89882244
I refer you again to the 2017A/1939B example. If you go to a "concurrent dimension" and it has no effect on the "concurrent dimension" you came from, then it's travelling to an alternate dimension, not time travel.

For the love of God formulate the situation in your head and think it through. Or draw it on a piece of paper. It's easy. You'll see that there's no time-travel going on, only travelling to an alternate dimension.
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>>89882377
Okay so you lack reading comprehension and or intelligence. Naturally when I am talking about concurrent dimensions (what you think) and showing how differently that would work than what I am talking about, you instead latch onto your own idea, ignore the criticisms to it and continue to pretend like you've made a point.
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>>89882358
>induce speculation
The USSR and the USA want to get to the moon. Who gets there first?

Speculation answers nothing. You want to know what happens, you have to talk about what happens, not "speculate".

"USSR GOT THERE FIRST!"
"NO USA GOT THERE FIRST"
^answers nothing
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>>89882138
That game was weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajS94fJc2pg
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>>89882417
>showing how differently that would work
You didn't. You showed it works exactly like alternate dimensions.

Person from "concurrent dimension 2017A" travels to "concurrent dimension 1939B" and kills Hitler. Nothing changed in "concurrent dimension 2017A".
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>>89882498
If you were to ask someone that BEFORE someone got to the moon it would be a valid question that would allow them to compare and contrast the work ethic, technology, economics and company culture of those two programs. If you cannot see the value of that you are a fool.
Further, to conflate speculation on a ficticious concept to an event that has LITERALLY occured is spastic
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>>89882524
Because concurrent dimensions were what YOU were talking about. I was saying that states of space time changing are entirely different to that.
>A is like B
>Well A does this and B does this
>See I told you A did that
No fucking shit. I swear to God you might actually be autistic.
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>>89882537
Speculation is not an answer. You want to know what happens, you have to use logic, not "intentions" and "speculation".

Try phrasing your question in a way that has an answer, not "let's speculate if Goku can beat up Superman".

Hint: if you have a sequence of events, you have to specify the sequence of events.
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>>89882576
No, not "A is like B", "A is identical to B, hence A is B", also known as the law of identity.

Try phrasing your "concurrent dimensions" in a way that is not identical to alternate dimensions. As far as you've defined them, they're identical.
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So whats with Odin, Vishnu, and Ra not doing anything while Aku continues to throw the universe out of balance?
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>>89875614
Because he knows that pizza will be late.
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>>89882579
>logic
You're beyond the pale. You cannot use logic without warrants. They are tools of interelation.
If I asked you what would happen when I turned the keys in my car the logical answer would be ignition because warrants present you with the basic concept of the car's function.
In FICTICIOUS TIME TRAVEL, two individuals will have different ideas of what time is, so when asked what happens when person A does X there is no shared logic.
You're a complete fucking imbecile
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>>89882607
I am saying that alternate dimensions ARE concurent. And it is that property PRECISELY that makes them different to a shifting of space time to something that is superficially a new dimension.
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>>89882631
>questioning the gods
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>>89882677
>superficially
It's not superficially the same, it's the same in every respect. Try outlining the difference between "a new dimension" and "concurrent dimensions". I'm listening.
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>>89882655
>what would happen when I turned the keys in my car
It would explode because someone planted a bomb and connected it to the ignition.
These "what if" speculations answer nothing.

You want to know what happens in the case you described, then describe the sequence of events that happens. Don't speculate.
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>>89882734
It isn't because a dimension is concurrent to another dimension, hence the term alternate and travel between them would not be temporal but dimensional. In such a case you could go back and forth between them.
If time and space literally shift to a point before alteration was initiated in a similar fashion to what people seculate of 'dimension' jumping then it would still be a temporal manipulation and not a dimensional one.
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In "Jack and the Labyrinth", the man in the white suit mentioned that mooks have been doing the "super sneaky ninja" shtick for 4 thousand years.Is this to be taken seriously or no?
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>>89882765
>you want to know what happens in the case you described, then describe the sequence of events that happens. Don't speculate
Autistic lad on the internet says that thought experiements must not be conducted. Fuck all those other people who used them as tools for contemplation and speculation he knows better.
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>>89882688
Yeah but when they forged the sword I thought it was one of those cases where the gods where like "Oh we missed a piece of that evil incarnate? Just give the mortals a tool to snuff out the last bit, should be fine" and since that failed and Aku's been dominating the universe for a few thousand years, you would think one of them would get off their ass seeing how the problem has gotten worse
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Why didn't Aku just teleport Jack into the void of space? You're telling me that he can send someone through time but not teleport them? That's like Superman flying but not being able to hover.
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>>89882790
Sigh. You didn't even try. Let me do it for you.
Dudebro from 2017A "temporally manipulates" himself to 1939B, kills Hitler, but nothing changes in 2017A.
Brodude from 2017A "dimensionally manipulates" himself to 1939B, kills Hitler, but nothing changes in 2017A.

If there is no difference between these actions (if they are identical in every sense), then they are the same, you just give them a different name (like "positron "and "anti-electron" - different names for the same thing)

What is the difference between these actions?
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>>89882878
He was about to die and was grasping at straws. The first thought you come up with in a panic isn't always the best possible thought.
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>>89882828
>thought experiements must not be conducted
"Speculate what happens" is not a thought experiment. "Mathematically examine a theory under conditions A, B, C" is a thought experiment.

You're confusing "conditions A, B, C" with "intent to create conditions A, B, C".

Intent means nothing. Specify the conditions.
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>>89882881
Thanks for that. I have been sufficiently baited. I am ashamed you had me on the hook for so long.
If you weren't baiting, get checked.
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>>89882912
>Mathematically
Or logically, as it were, because surprisingly, this is simple enough to describe with fundamental logic.
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>>89882923
You know, you could simply describe the difference between those two situations. I'll save you the trouble: there isn't any.
"Time travel" to an alternate timeline is identical to travelling to a different dimension.
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>>89881970
>it seems bad at first, but then I find a way
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>>89882971
The distance from Dimension A to Dimension B is the x-axis.
The distance from 2017 to 1938 is the y-axis.
Traveling from 2017A to 1938B is traveling along both the x- and y-axes.
You would be dimensionally traveling AND time traveling.
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>>89882846
They see that Jack will eventually get back (back) to the past (past)

They seem to be the top dogs in their pantheons, so they probably don't see it as a big deal cosmically... it'll resolve itself. They set Aku's defeat in motion. They're already like... billions of years old after all.
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>>89876467
This. All things that have happened or "would happen" in the past have already been accounted for.
This leaves a few possibilities. Jack knows he can't defeat Aku in the past because the bad future already happened meaning he either failed or didn't go.
The second possibility is in which time travel to the past is straight up impossible. Only traveling to the future is possible. They said there were magic spells time portals to the past but we never saw anybody who actually use them and find out if they are legit. For all we know they only go forward and Jack has dodged a bullet every time he failed.
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>>89883076
Okay, now we're starting to get somewhere.

Is it possible to travel from 2017A to 1938A? Since the example with Hitler has a ton of factors, let's simplify it to the bare minimum, but first I have to know if it's possible to travel from present-A to past-A.
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>>89883116

According to the adult swim description of the season 5 trailer "all time portals to the past have been destroyed"
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>>89879286
wut
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>>89883116
>For all we know they only go forward and Jack has dodged a bullet every time he failed
If this is so, then Aku must believe the lie as well, or else he wouldn't have worked so hard to prevent the FOOOOOLISH SAMURAI from using them. Keeping in mind Aku is a known time manipulator.
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>>89883207
Now I want the "the professor, a known atheist" copypasta with Aku, a known time manipulator.
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>>89883165
According to the many worlds timetravel model, I don't think so. According to pretty much every other model ever, yes.
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>>89878681
>>89879801
Fuck you
I love Time Travel stories

>>89879555
>>89877504
Doctor Who, being 60 some years old, was going to and will continue to break its rules for twists and drama

>>89878910
>doesn't make sense.
PEOPLE don't make sense. The drama drives the story, no matter how much I like or you hate the technobabble, it's all fluff for the drama
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>>89883257
>PEOPLE don't make sense
Some people more than others *cough cough*
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how the fuck did this thread develop from an aku meme face to a fucking time travel conversation
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>>89875364
>Jack got all this motivation from helping the monkeys and learning to jump
>Goes back to the portal
>Even with his new found power, he obviously lost
>Never jumps again
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>>89883288
don't you throw Orwell memes at me
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>>89883442
Jack jumps some ridiculous heights in a lot of episodes after that, don't kno what you're talking about. Jack vs the Shinobi for one
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>>89883243
>According to pretty much every other model ever, yes.
Okay, let's go with that.

There is a time machine in 2017A. A particle, freely moving through space, enters the time machine in 2017A and exists in 1939A ("according to pretty much every other model ever").

1) The particle continues to travel from 1939 to 2017 (in the ordinary way, like we're travelling forward through time right now). In 2017, it hits itself, and never enters the time machine. It never enters the time machine. But we already said it did enter the time machine, so we contradicted ourselves.

This model of time travel, which allows for grandfather paradoxes, is logically contradictory. "Intra-dimensional" time travel of this kind, which results in a self-contradiction, doesn't exist (assuming the universe obeys logic). This leaves us with ONLY "inter-dimensional" time travel, which, like I said, is no different from just "regular old" alternate dimensions.

2) I'd elaborate the alternate scenario, but let's focus on 1 for now.

Do you see how there's no "time travel" going on in your alternate universe "time travel"?
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>>89883207
Maybe he knows they aren't legit and he likes toying with the FOOLISH SAMURAI who thinks they are real (and if he goes forward in time he has to wait again for his plaything to come back)
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>>89883486
The first time I saw him do a JUMP GOOD was in Jack and the Zombies, which was a full 16 episodes after he learned it.
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Knowing Genndy and time travel, Jack won't necessarily change the past by going through the portal and killing Aku. Similar to Stein's Gate, he will be stuck in a timeline that is doomed to Aku's future dystopia. However, there will be no other alternative timeline to save him. Aku's future will be inevitable.
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>>89883490
Why the assumption that the particle hits itself in 2017? It could just as easily be somewhere else.
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>>89883652
>anon claims to "know" time travel
>quotes a fucking anime
I really wish I had a laughing Aku image for this post
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>>89883682
That's 2 (and 3). I wanted to focus on 1 because that shows that grandfather paradoxes are self-contradictory.
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>>89883687
>2017
>not knowing stein's gate is an accurate depiction of our own timeline
>not knowing the prophecies of meme magic
>wanting to use Aku laughing to be dismissive when other anon is correct even though Ego Trip would have been a better example

/co/ is truly the bluest of all boards

Also mfw this fucking thread
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>>89883687
Knowing "Genndy and time travel", as one subject, meaning Genndy's previous work with time travel, specifically ego trip. Nobody really knows time travel.

Settle the fuck down, you insecure spaz.
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>>89883613
He beats the Scotsman in a high Jump competition at the end of The Scotsman Saves Jack part 2 and even says "jump good".
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>you will never be as happy as Jack when he learned to jump good
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>>89885340
>you will never be as happy
stopped reading there
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>>89876129
Due to the fact that Jack now wields guns, we can draw the conclusion that new Jack is comfortable with using technology, and knows how it works by now. So instead:

>Jack goes back to the past
>Faces down past Aku after defeating future Aku
>Future Aku obviously is stronger with the addition of technology
>Past Aku starts losing and tries the time portal trick again
>Jack obviously sees it coming, and uses technology to block the portal from opening, and defeats Aku

See that's the thing though, future Jack is going to be way stronger then past Jack was.
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>>89879546
That episode was so disappointing to me. I was really wanting them to delve deep into Jack's fears and regrets with Mad Jack. I was expecting him to spawn, and start saying shit like "you left your village to die, because you weren't good enough to stop Aku" and "you wish to go back to the past, and abandon the people here that need you. How heroic" Stuff like that, but its just a slugfest.
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>>89878656
It's obvious he wants to fuck him
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Were these guys just the biggest assholes to ever exist? It took all three of them to beat Aku while he was in space as a big blob, yet when they discovered that they fucked up, and a piece of him managed to survive and land on Earth, instead of dealing with it themselves, they just gave one guy the magic sword and were like "good luck suckers" and left. What a bunch of lazy fucks.
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>>89885828
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>>89885957
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>>89885828
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>>89885957
That's how most polytheistic and monotheistic gods work, anon. As long as it can't touch them, they don't give a shit about mortals' problems.
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>>89886037
>screencapping your own posts
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>>89886477
>getting dubs on a shitpost
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>>89881632
Except you can if your travel back before the splitting of the lines, if what you say its true there is no real time travel since every time you travel in time you create 2 separate "futures"
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SEDUCE HIM AND USE YOUR BABY AS AN ANCHOR

GUILT HIM FROM LEAVING YOU
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>>89878153
Source?
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>If Jack came from Africa, he'd be called Samurai Black.
>If Jack was a drug dealer, he be called Samurai Smack.
>If Jack used an axe instead of a katana, he'd be called Samurai Hack.
>If Jack was a robot, he'd be called Samurai Clack.
>If Jack was a Martian, he'd be called Samurai Aack.
>If Jack liked to bounce things on his feet, he'd be called Samurai Hacky-Sack.
>If Jack wrote a #1 hit rock song about his teenage girlfriend in 1979, he'd be called Samurai The Knack.
>If Jack was French, he'd be called Samurai Jacques.
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>>89886037
Post the unspeakable amount of cum one.
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>>89875320
Why didn't Jack just try to beat Aku in the future before going back to the past?

Doing it twice shouldn't be a problem.
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>EXTRA THICK

What did he mean by this?
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>>89876185
That's not a Steins Gate thing, Anon. Not exclusively, anyway.
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>>89887002
Fine, I'll do it.
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>>89880978
The difference is that in one scenario you time traveled, and in the other you traveled to a different dimension.
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>>89887160
He meant retarded.
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>>89876030
Of course he does, he jumps like a motherfucker.
In the last episode Scotsman appears in they directly reference it.
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>>89886665
Paranatural.
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Isn't time travel in Jack just the super simple version most 90's/early 2000's used? Where there is only one timeline, and if Jack goes back and kills Aku, that means the future/reality he was transported to disappears? No multiple universes, paradoxes or timelines.
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>>89887044
Some anon in another thread speculated that Jack would have to defeat Aku in the future before being deemed worthy by the Guardian to travel to the past.
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>>89875658
Pretty sure he was never going to go back to the past buddy
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>>89887760

But he's gotta get back. Back to the past.
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>>89886632
I'm pretty sure I read a fanfic like this once
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>>89888443
Brak
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>>89886615
>you can if your travel back before the splitting of the lines
You "split the lines" the instant you change the past, like appearing out of a time machine.
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>>89887361
>The difference is that in one scenario you time traveled, and in the other you traveled to a different dimension.
That's a difference in name, not a difference in effect. "The difference is that one is an anti-electron, and the other is a positron."

Seriously, it's explained in the very post you're replying to.
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>>89885957
We'll yeah they're gods they probably evolved past that universes problems anyways
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>>89887377
Oh shit, they sold him a bunch of retards
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>>89878682
what kind of sword is this
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>>89876481
If it's anything like this show I will be legitimately upset
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>>89887044
I guess aku became too powerful in the future for jack to be able to get to him
Let's be realistic, it's only one Samurai, what can he do against a castle
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>>89886063
Well shit.
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>>89889887
Whomst amongst themst survivest?
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>>89889909
the second one on the right.
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>>89883257
>fuck you
>I love time travel stories
Beautiful argument, 10/10
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>>89878656
Not only that, but Aku rescued Jack from quicksand when there was seemingly no other escape.
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>>89885828
watchy watchy watchy
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>>89889998
You know even if you ignore the time travel, there's still the bad writing and acting.
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>>89889447
It's cheaper to buy in bulk
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>>89879801
>There is absolutely no non retarded time travel
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Aku will travel into the past. He will arrive moments after his younger self sent Jack into the future. They will set a trap for future Jack. Jack's journey will end with him having to beat two Aku's at once.
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>>89891313
Aku will end up betraying himself doing that.
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>>89891383
Well, of course. The questions there are younger or older Aku betraying first? and will they have patience to fight Jack before the betrayal?
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>>89886937
>>If Jack came from Russia, he'd be called Samurai Genndy
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>>89891313
That'd be counter-productive, seeing as how Aku is capable of duplicating himself. He could theoretically be in multiple places at once
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>Lulu sweet thing
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>>89891383

What if it doesn't work the first time, so they team up and get a third Aku?

sorry for bad paint skills
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>>89886937
>>89891574
>If Jack was a white guy he'd be called Samurai Cuck
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>>89891733
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>>89891313
>>89883207
>Aku is a known time manipulator
Which makes me believe that if changing the past were actually possible, Aku would have done it and just killed Jack as a baby, or fucked with the past in any number of ways.
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>>89891733

>Aku Needs an evil partner for his upcoming battle with Jack, and uses a time travel device to recruit the perfect teammate: HIMSELF!
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>>89891868

>The scene cuts to four Aku's singing the song "Aku and the Akus."
>After the song, they decide the "original Aku" should be the leader of the band.
>Aku 1 then labels the other three Akus
>He states that Aku 2 is "the smart one"
>while Aku 3 is "the funny one"
>and Aku 4 is "the sensitive one"
>Aku 1 then brushes his hair up, and labels himself "the handsome one".
>Jack then proceeds to defeat them all, and the original fly's away.
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>>89891933
this is so bad and the way you described it makes it sound ooc as fuck but i'm laughing so hard
this has to be drawn
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>>89891976
I, too, was originally opposed to the idea but on further consideration found it agreeable. This is surely something that most people will eventually accept by themselves.
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>>89891976
>>89892059


Alright how about this one.

>Aku attempts to futher his mastery of the power of shapeshifting, but can only manage to shapeshift his fingers into tiny cat heads.

>By the time Aku reaches Jack, the cats have almost completely overtaken Aku's body. Jack, surprised by Aku's appearance, sprays him with a hose, which allows Aku's face to emerge as he begs Jack for help.
>Jack reaches towards Aku in an effort to destroy him, but one of the cat fingers bites him. Aku begins to contemplate the full extent of his condition, then realizes the only thing that can stop the cats is water.
>He tells Jack to spary him with the hose, but Jack insists that Aku is too dangerous.
>Jack finally relets, and heads into the car wash as the cats almost completely consume Aku's body.
>Aku struggles to crawl into the car wash, and is blasted by numerous jets of soap and water.

>The wash successfully clears the cats from Aku's body.
>Before Jack can strike the final blow, Aku tears open a portal in time, and flings him into the future.
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>>89891313
Two Aku's would be pretty funny.
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>>89882138
high quality rip
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>>89876559
>S;G
>better than Dr Who
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Is Aku the only villian smart enough to get rid of his enemy by flinging them into the future where they have taken over and have made preparations for the hero return

Its like when the PPG went so fast they went to the future and Him had taken over. Not the same but the concept works. Hero out of the timeline for a bit
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So I decided to rewatch the series (half way through right now), and it's been bugging me.

In the episode where he fights Evil Jack, isn't one of the bounty hunters, the car guy with the elephant thing, someone who appeared in that Dexter spinoff with Monkey?
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>>89880540
aku is the god of digits
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>>89875320
there was a scene in the episode where aku pretends to be a woman where a male belly dancer walks in and dances and aku seems embarressed and tries to hide it from jack. what does it mean?
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>>89894289
"she" was trying to keep in character
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Is anyone curious to see if Jack will kill an actual person this time around? He killed demons and robots in droves before, but it was always done in a clean and bloodless manner.

Will Jack end up with a bloodied sword?
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>>89894428
didn't one of the trailers have him literally covered in blood? Also it's on adult swim now so if they wanted they could get away with more since it isn't on a thing made for kids
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>>89876559
The only thing about time travel in S;G I found dumb was the whole sex changing thing and that seemed like a joke since they even acknowledged it made no sense.
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>>89876450
made me laugh more than it should have.

>>89878656
Maybe he was super confident that his dream would come true somehow... I mean, ghosts are a thing, and even his dream revealed that if jack was traveling alone he would've succeeded.
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>>89878682
Did aku corrupted the sword or made his own?
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>>89875320
rewatching the show in anticipation of the revival has reminded me how much of a GOAT villain Aku is

>super powerful, cunning, and evil as fuck, making him very threatening
>fucks with Jack out of spite
>reads kids fairy tails because he's butthurt they respect Jack instead of him

how can other villains compete
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>>89875320
I'm gonna miss that voice
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>>89894743

http://www.adultswim.com/videos/samurai-jack/samurai-jack-behind-the-scenes-music/

Dose anybody have this


New footage!!!!!
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>>89894801
Fuck yeah! Looks like they'll be keeping the silent atmospheric moments from the original show.
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>>89894743
I am gonna miss this show again when it is over.
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>>89894801
yoooo the animation looks so good
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>>89894946

But can somebody put this on Google drive?
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>>89875320
Won't Jack wear his old clothes?
I already miss his old clothes.
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>>89894801
Always wondered how the creative process of composing for movies, TV and animation happens.
Now I know.
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>>89875320
Why are people getting excited? You know CN is going to cancel it the moment it becomes too popular.
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>>89894289
filename related
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>>89894801
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST THING IM EVER GOING TO SEE JESUS CHRIST
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>>89895253
oh okay, got it
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>>89895211
It's 10 episodes and it's on Adult Swim. You're joking, right?
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>>89895211
Its literally the last season
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>>89895449
Please post that behind the scenes video on Google drive
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>>89895719
http://www.adultswim.com/videos/samurai-jack/

it's literally here famm
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>>89892282
>>89891933
>>89891868
>>89891733
Someone Screencap this
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>>89894801
>http://www.adultswim.com/videos/samurai-jack/samurai-jack-behind-the-scenes-music/

If this season of SJ ever gets a DVD release, I want an alternate music option sung entirely by gennedy.
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>>89895951
I want the recordings of the pitches he sent to Lazzo so fucking bad
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Genndy needs to cut back on this promos, or we'll end up seeing the entire season in trailer form by March 11th
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>>89876030
I think it was the whole "episodic cartoon" thing, but he was jumping pretty impressively as the series went on.

There were a few moments that I agree with you though.
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>>89878682
It's been done.
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>>89894289
>>89895253
Aku is only gay for Jack
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>>89895253
Gotta admit, bringing some male nudity for his female guest was pretty nice.
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>>89899294
but that's haram
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>>89899402
Just to show that aliens that copy Muslim culture are more tolerant than actual Muslims.
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>>89895969
I doubt we've seen anything that isn't in the first two, maybe three, episodes.
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>>89999999
>>90000000
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>>89901486
Did Aku tare open a portal and fling you into the future. Is his evil law there?
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>>89894801
THIS IS THE BEST
THE BEST
THE BEST THING I HAVE SEEN THIS DECADE
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>>89878656
Thing about Aku. He's evil. Pure evil. He wants to do the most evil thing all the time, even if it's dumb.

What's more evil, killing the samurai, ensuring your immortal rule (for as long as the Gods don''t come fuck your shit again) but granting the one mortal who could stop you eternal rest,

Or.

Mentally fucking with him to such a harsh degree that he probably will never be able to have a stable relationship again, keep him in your ruined future and possibly still be able to kill him later?
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>>89879801
What about 4 or 5th dimensional being who perceive what we think of as time as a physical, spatial, dimension?

As in they would literally 'walk across the room' into next week
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How many people has Jack fought that posed greated threats than Aku? Considering Jack consistently curbstomps his ass whenever they go at it. The Minions of Set and the Guardian come to mind.
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>>89881963
LONG AGO, IN A DISTANT LAND
>>
>Start watching the the show on adult swim
>get sick
>still not well a week later and if I marathon the show late into the night I'm probably not going to enjoy it and get more sick

just end it
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>>89879286
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>>89904311
The Guardian still couldn't harm Aku and it's likely he's either broken or dead as all of the time portals have been destroyed by the 5th season.

The Minions of Set are up in the air as Aku was shown able to be at least set back by other gods
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OH YEAH!
PORRIDGE!
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>>89875320
Can the show end with Jack going back to the past and getting a happy ending?

I'm gonna be tilted, Jack's been portal blocked too many times.
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>>89883687
Listen here nobody knows time travel, nobody.

Not even the few time travelers I have met.

Although to be honest they do all seem preoccupied with trying to kill me, rather then talking about the finer details about how timetravel works. Something about my new A.I. project "starting it all".
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>>89894801
>before watching this
Oh boy a new season of Jack, I can't wait!

>after watching this
Goddammit, after this new season of Jack, everything else will be shit in comparison and life will suck forever.
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>>89905489
This is the realest post ever made on 4chan
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>>89880848
>that episode where the hot Southern lady sat next to Jack
>he begins to spill his spaghetti all over the place
kek
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>>89886037
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>>89906074
Which episode was this?
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>>89882138
this guy's still going? I thought he died
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>>89906103
S3E4 - "The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful"
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>>89904925
SHUT UP!

I'M TRYING TO SLEEP!
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>>89906347
three bears jack is my spirit animal
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>>89894801
If anyone needs 1080p rip of this, here it is:
https://mega.nz/#!pF4nUIAT!926Qk_wdq37sUW3_DTLzsCPdZmIiWdAhduukRKI1keI
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Also, I'm glad they didn't forget about the pedo audience
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>>89876481
Fire Emblem had okay time travel but I'm a fanboy so what do I know.
>>
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If Aku is constantly getting his hands on the time portals before Jack, why hasn't he used them strengthen his past self?
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>>89906078
Best new reaction image
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>>89906996
The steel-toed boots are just off-putting after watching Jack's Sandals. I'm marathoning the show, and Jack's every triumph makes me think
>Soon, his smile and optimism will be gone.
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>>89907077
Why bother? His past self won.
>>
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>>89904829
Sorry, I meant a greater threat to Jack personally. Obviously Aku represents the greatest threat to everyone else.
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You-kashi-mashta!
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>>89907550
Aku isn't that much of a threat to jack on his own at all, to be honest. He usually beats him pretty handily because Aku is complacent with invulnerability.
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>>89876573

This
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>>89907552
I haven't cosplayed in years, but damn if that armor isn't tempting.
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>>89907077
Because you can't change the past.
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>>89906706
Is that the mom or the daughter?
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>>89906706
Nelvaan?
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>>89886937
>If Jack came from Japan, he'd be called Samurai Jap.
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>>89907700
Yes
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>>89890295
yeah but he needed jack to find the jewel
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I cant wait for Samurai John Wick
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>>89886937
>If Jack was a junkie, he'd be called Samurai Crack.
>If Jack was a small serving of junk food, he'd be called Samurai Snack.
>If Jack wasn't very skilled, he'd be called Samurai Lack.
>If Jack was a famous basketball player, he'd be called Samurai Shaq.
>If Jack used Apple computers, he'd be called Samurai Mac.
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>>89894801
>TFW watching this and this song just starts playing in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64
I think this song just fits this new Jack sad to say.
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>>89908666
CHECKED
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>>89878681
Homestuck did everything with time travel perfectly until the retcon though.
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>>89906653
Can u please post this on Google drive please?
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>>89906653
>Samurai Kek
fake and gay
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>>89885821
I'd agree with this if this was an episode in like late Season 2. I feel like we just gotten accustomed to Jack and his many run ins with oppressed societies in the future and it would be weird to deep into his subconscious so early in the show.
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>>89910576
>>89894967
What the fuck is this google drive meme?
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>>89911258

I meant post it on google drive it's hard to download from MEGA:)
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I'll be back samurai, you'll see!

ahahahahahahaha!
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>>89908666

Had you said that a week ago I would have been even more hyped

Sadly I think John Wick just works better as a singular thing.
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>>89875364
Not good
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>>89911466
Really good
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>>89878208
I appreciate this
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>>89894116
I don't remember the episode, but yes he was in Dexters Lab. He was a space bounty hunter in that one.
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>>89905350
Are you titor? Or flash?
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You have to go back.
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>>89886937

>If he was a duck, he'd be called Samurai Quack
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>>89886937
>If Jack had a tech job in California, he'd be Samurai Mac.
>If Jack was a video game character, he'd be Samurai Pac.
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>>89907810
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>>89879286
>I personally know people who do this
>They used to be cute girls
>Now ones hyper tumblr and the other frequent fur conventions
Please, get me off this gay earth
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>>89912906

https://mega.nz/#!pF4nUIAT!926Qk_wdq37sUW3_DTLzsCPdZmIiWdAhduukRKI1keI


Please somebody post this to Google drive

Don't like downloading from MEGA sometimes:)
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>>89894801
I MUST STAY ALIVE.
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>>89912931
Could you post this comment on Google Drive? I don't like reading from 4chan sometimes
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>>89894801
I'M GONNA CUM
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>>89875320
What's /co/'s opinion on sentient Aku and blob monster Aku? Which do you think is a bigger threat?

I personally believe that giving Aku a mind of his own was a net gain for the side of righteousness since, while cruel and ambitious, Aku can be tricked and sidetracked. Meanwhile, his primal form would have just gradually eaten the Earth at a steady rate, then the solar system, and so on and so forth.
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>>89879801
Back to the Future 1 is the perfect time travel story.
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>>89914163
>blob monster Aku

That was not Aku. That was something else and it gave birth to Aku.
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>>89911949
Back to the past.
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>>89906706
>>89906078
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>>89915207
Aku was the small piece of the one that the gods destroyed and crashed on Earth.
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>>89886937
>If Jack was a Martian, he'd be called Samurai Aack

Oh god my sides
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>>89917470
My apologies.
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>>89895806
>aku doing Steven Universe plots
>screencap worthy
Go fuck yourself
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>>89917470
>AACK ACK AAACK, aack ack ack, ACK AACK!
>subtitle: No matter what form you take Aku, you will never defeat the power of righteousness!
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If Jack was Jamaican, he'd be called Samurai Dank
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If Jack was Sicilian, he'd be called Samurai Whack
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If Jack was Egyptian, he'd be called Samurai Ankh
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>>89894801
I think the motorbike scene with the two paths is a reference to Jack and the Zombies
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>>89894801
>WATCHA at the end
Brilliant
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>>89916866
Sayin' home run, Jack!
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If Jack was Russian, he'd be called Samurai Vladk.
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If Jack was a pathetic nu-male faggot, he'd be called Samurai Cuck
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I hate the rain.
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>>89895968
I'd pitch in for that.
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>>89920115
My heart just broke.

Lulu. Sweet thing.
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>/pol/ ruins everything again
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HA HA HA
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>>89921169
Most of the women get beaten and killed by a man, and that's portrayed as a good thing. Doesn't sound like crazy social justice warring to me.
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>>89921169
genndy is definitely not a feminist or progressive guy from looking at his shows
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>>89921694
this, he's actually one of the few redpilled people left in hollywood, which might be why he doesn't use social media or anything...too busy making cool shit to shill
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>>89921694
he doesn't give off the vibe of a trumptard or anything
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>>89921694
Thank god he's a Ruskie, Americans are incapable of making cartoons in today's age.
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>>89881839
Death and Ricewind best characters.
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>>89923286
Maybe he just doesn't give a shit about politics and just wants to finish his cartoon.
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He will always be "Abu" to me.
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>>89875588
Something that's been bugging me a bit lately, what the FUCK did he mean by "I think I'm in the computer" mean?

Like, a customer database or did his hideout teleport inside a computer today or...?
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>>89921694
Explain. Thoroughly.

From what I've seen, he's in the "we're all people, how you act decides how I treat you" camp.
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>>89930177

Maybe the computer had some Aku inside of it. Sort of like how the Androids worked.
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>>89895951
>DVD
>480p max
>in 2017

Really nigger?
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>>89876877
How? It makes perfect sense to me. It seems that fixed points are only things relative to the knowledge of a time traveler. The Doctor can't consciously go back to kill Hitler since it's a fixed point. So if he were to kill Hitler, the idea to kill Hitler would have never come about and he would throw the world into a paradox. However, if he were to travel back in time and accidentally kill a random person who happens to be Hitler, the universe would be fine, because it would have happened either way.
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>>89930177
The Customer Database.
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>>89914806
It's full of plot holes. Like how in order for the ending to make sense there has to be two separate Marty McFlys.
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>>89912906
Please don't ruin char for me.
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>>89931376
Horribly encoded 480p too, DVDs do NOT look nice
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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