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/co/ Whos the best member of the Batfamily and why is it Nightwing?
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>>89858490
Wrong. Damian is best.
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Dick > Alfred > Damian

everyone else is shit
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>>89858490
>A character that has no point besides being sexy
>best member

>>89859246
>insufferable brat who always angery
>best member

>>89858490
Alfred of course.
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>>89858490
Cass was probably the most interesting for awhile, until they fucked her up then buried her.

It was nice having a specialized Bat character with a serious weakness who had a reason to rely on others for help.
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Alfred
Dick
Jason
Carrie Kelley
Tim
Cassandra
Damian
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>>89859625
How was she interesting? What does she have besides "le she is strongest fighter that can even match Batman"?
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>>89859746
>Jason and Tim that high

wew
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>>89860109

I'm biased about Jason but I wasn't really sure where to put Tim because I forgot most of what happened in the comics he was in. So I just stuck him there because a lot of people seem to think he's the best Robin.
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>>89860263
Tim is terrible. His dumb fans just spew propaganda. He's literally self insert: the character.
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>>89860109
Why he shouldn't be that high? He has a bigger impact on the bat mythos than most of the batfamily and has been important member of the family since the reboot.
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>>89861087
And I mean Jason by that.
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>>89860424
not really, Dick and Damian are just as guilty of that at least

>ladies man that everyone loves
>edgy kid ninja that's totally heir to the best hero ever you guys
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>>89859832
>even match
Bitch shut up she can take Batman and two of his clones at the same time. She's better than Bronze Tiger, Deathstroke and even Shiva.
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>>89861126
you're not making a compelling case that she has anything else going for her
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>>89858490
I like Dick when he isn't a piece of meat, and functions as a big brother/support role for the rest of the family (including Bruce and Alfred).

I'm the eldest son in a generally non-communicative family, so it was up to me to help emotionally support my mother, father and baby brother, whenever they fought amongst themselves and whatever. So, I can really relate when Dick is in Brother-mode. Makes me feel less alone.
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>>89859746

I'm a huge Dickfag and even I have to admit that Alfred is the best Batfamily member
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>>89859746
>Steph nowhere
Pottery
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The problem with Dick is they aren't letting him grow up. Him being Batman was the best time for the character, but there's no reason he can't be that professional all the time.
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>>89861204
Lmao based Didio.
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>>89861191
That's the thing
if you asked the actual bat family, the order would go
Alfred
Dick
Babs
Damien
Tim
Cassy
Jason

Carrie Kelley and Terry are honorable mentions, but they never got to participate in the bat family per se, cause that takes 3 min.
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Excluding Alfred, Dick is easily the best when written correctly.
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Huntress
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>>89861475
I don't believe anyone would put Damian above Tim.
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>>89861715
Dick would, and Alfred would
Remember that in current bat family, Tim wasn't as close as he was previously.
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>>89861724
I haven't really kept up with New 52 that much. The Batfam I know definitely liked Tim more.
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>>89861724
Also remember that everything wrote by Lobdell about Tim is being utterly ignored, as it should.
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>>89861703

Is she still part of the family?>>89861715
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Nightwing fans sure do make a lot of threads patting themselves on the back.
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>>89862824
Well NeoNuHuntress appeared as a recurring character only in batbooks ie Grayson and Batgirl's Birds of Pray.
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>>89862845
What did you expect? They are the most insecure after all.
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>>89862869
You know, I did notice that they are the ones who usually hate on the other robins and their fans. So, I guess you are right that they are insecure.
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Nightwing is the best bat family character and Tim is the best Robin. These are facts.
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>>89862955
No, this is your opinion.
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>>89861724
>Dick would
debatable
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>>89862955
those digits don't lie
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>>89862955
Of course you would think that. After all, they are the most easy to self-insert.
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>>89863109
Savage.
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>>89863109
so which of the other edgefags do you prefer to self-insert as? Because that's all Robin's ever been and all their post-Robin personas are as well.
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>>89858490
Dick, Alfred, Cassandra, Jason, Damain. Tim and Babs are too stagnant and buried in regression or because too many other characters currently (Harper\Duke) have his qualities making him not needed.
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Nightwing is the best batfam member but Damian is my favorite robin because he reminds me if myself as a kid minus all the ninja and killing shit i was an angry brat whose father wasnt around and then mother eventually abandoned me and had to find father who is a cold distant cunt. Now i live by myself and Damian reminds me of that time and it makes the shit he does make sense to me
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>>89863235
Serious question, what makes Nightwing the best? Because he has no depth besides being "nice" and "sexy".
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>>89863257
That's just his fanboys, anon.

I do like him, but there's no way he is the best and there are many who are more interesting than him.
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>>89863257
more depth than the rest of the batfam desu

I eagerly await your treatises on Jason and Damian though
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>>89863257
For me, his relationships with other heroes like superman, the whole arc of the first robin becoming his own hero, batman didnt fuck him up too bad like the others, joker hasnt broken him and hates him for it, nightwing isnt dark and broody and keeps his distance from what makes bruce wayne batman, hes more caring and is seen as more human and relatable because he gets close to people and even falls in love and is a romantic
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>>89863293
>I eagerly await your treatises on Jason and Damian though
What do they have to do with anything? And if you want my "treatises" on them, let me just summed up and say that Jason definitely has more depth than him and even Damian when they don't reset his development every arc.
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>>89863342
if they have more depth than "nice" and "sexy" it shouldn't be so hard for you to describe it, yet here you are dodging
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>>89863327
Since when Mr. Perfect is more human and relatable?
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>>89863360
>Since when Mr. Perfect is more human and relatable?
You don't relate as him, anon.
You SELF INSERT as him.

>tfw fucking every girl left and right while being sexy as fuck
Don't wake me up from this dream please.
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samefagging ITT getting pretty out of hand
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>>89859584

Dick is the nicest and mist emotionally stable member of the family. Thats his point.
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>>89862863
I woner if they will ever formally introduce her to the family. She deserves it over Duke and Harper
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>>89863484
Not him but I relate to Dick more than any other hero
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>>89863360
Dick aint perfect. He's got comitment issues, he's flaky, and he has anger issues.
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>>89863109
>much self insert
When will this meme fucking die? God forbid anyone enjoys a competent, serious character that doesn't have some stupid overly tragic back story.
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>>89861715
Even if you don't like Damian, I dont see how you can argue that he has less depth and relevance than Tim
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>>89858490
Alfred
Jason
Cass
Everyone else
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>>89858490

Alfred>Bruce>Tim=Damian>Steph>CassBabs>Duke>Harper> Jason and Dick
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>>89863557
Of course anon, being considered a success in your family is a great thing, and I'm happy for you.
I'm in the failure department so seeing dick made me jealous as fuck.
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>>89863589
>>89863609

Thats some shit taste anons
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>>89863609

Da fuck
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>>89863609
>>89863626

I dont like Dick and Jason
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>>89863651

But less that harper and Duke???????
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>>89863615
I don't relate to his success but to other stuff. I'm the hot one of the family, I'm the nice and easygoing one, look a lot like Dick, don't need to do much to pick up girls, my step-dad adopted me as his true son, and am a mentor figure to the younger family members. Also know martial arts and I have the same flaws that an anon posted just a bit earlier
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I'm all about the Dick
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>>89863349
I'm not dodging anything, bitter Dick fanboy(girl). But I decided to humor you because I'm in the mood.

Let’s talk about Jason, a complex character who has more to him than first meet the eye. Absolute jerk and can be extermly ruthless, but can also be really compassionate like we saw him with Sasha, JD, Bizarro and even to his mother when he still tried to protect her after what she done to him. Really confident and can appear sometimes as arrogant, but still pretty insecure. His philosophy was born from the harsh place he was raised in and firmly believe that he's right, but still doesn't see himself as a good guy. He's really a smartass and never miss a chance to make a joke, but he's still a very serious guy. He's a mental and has some serious anger issues, but he's still a pretty chill dude. I seriously can go on about how complex he is, but I don't like making a long post.
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Why does Bruce only bring in kids that look eerily similar to himself in various stages of his life?
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>>89864002
Thumbs up anon. Thats why I like Jason so much too.
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>>89861126
You sound like a complet retard
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>>89859832
Her relationship with Bruce was interesting, and was the best part of the character. Bruce didn't need to be protective or push her to be better, he didn't need to be a hardass to make sure she would survive. He had to actually be a dad and not only a father. That is a nice change, Bruce usually only open up by watching movies or when his kids are in real danger, with Cass he had to actually act like a dad. Baby telling him to act like a normal person or he telling superman that his good for nothing clone should stay away from his little ninja princess. It was fun.


Also the best member of the bat family is Alfred, and then batcow
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>>89864078
when did bruce ever have a shock of white hair?
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>>89864398
It was actually forced, not fun.

Batman's relationship with Carrie is what I call fun.
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>>89864078
they remind him of himself when he was a kid and takes pity on them because he was so alone and lost and he doesnt want them to feel the same way so by helping them hes helping himself. he always sees a lot of himself in each of them, physically and mentally, just different aspects.
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>>89864398
>He had to actually be a dad and not only a father.
wut
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>>89858490
Is Jean Paul member of the Batfamily?
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>>89864516
>Batman's relationship with Carrie is what I call fun
Such underrated relationship. It's definitely better than his relationship with Cass.
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>>89864545
Yes.
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>>89864516
literally using the most forced in character
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>>89859832
All that fighting strength came at the cost of major psychological damage and being retarded mentally and socially. The appeal was her trying her identity outside of being a living weapon
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>>89858490
Shittiest are obviously Tim and Jason
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>>89864570
I think Alfred is the most important, but I like Azrael best.
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>>89864619
>Shittiest
>Jason
Awful taste should be illegal.
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>>89864619
>Jason is the shittiest

Thats not how you spell Dick
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>>89859246

First post, best post.
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>>89864731
>there are people who unironically like DC's own Shadow the Hedgehog

Are you 11?
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>>89864963
I'm pretty sure that if actually know anything about Jason and Shadow, you wouldn't have compared them.

So, begone child.
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>>89865017
To be fair, if hawaiian shirt shadow is real then it sure would be a great comparison. you will never see them chilling out together
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>>89864848

Lmao good joke. Dick is far from shitty. He's kind and handsome, but full of flaws with a complex relationship with Bruce. He cares about his brothers, but is relatable in that he makes big brother type of mistakes.
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>>89863609
>liking Bruce

kys
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>>89865410
>but full of flaws with a complex relationship with Bruce
When you trying so hard to say something interesting about bland character, but you don't succeed~
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>>89865689
How is he any blander than the rest?
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>>89864470
The white hair is a Lazarus pit effect desu

At least the shitty ginger hair that Morrison gave him has been retconned I'm pretty sure.
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>>89865723
Stuck in reverse~
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>>89865410
>Kind
> Good brother

Tell that to Jason and Tim
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>>89865723

He's worst that Jason but better than Tim and Daimian
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nightwings ass
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>>89864078
People usually adopt kids that look like them, only Cucks and homosexuals are into adopting people that looks differently.
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>>89863695
Neither of them are part of the bat family, they are allies.
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>>89865785
You Jasonfags really need to get over this Dick is a shit brother meme
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>>89866210
Not even jasonfag mate, but didn't he dismissed jason when jason was robin?
Don't know about tim tho
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>>89866210
Why they should get over it when it's true? Can't handle the truth?
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>>89866245

Id say it was more like he was dismissing Bruce and even then he approved Jason later on. Dick was just so busy being with the Titans that they never got close.
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>>89866278
So he isn't wrong when he said Dick is a shit brother, then?
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>>89866245
I agree that he did Tim dirty with the Damian Robin situation, but Dick didnt/doesnt owe Jason anything

>>89866258

But its not True. Its just complaints from Jasonfags who don't like Dick beating Jason up for being a criminal and then shouting ooc when they get along like in Robinwar/Eternal/Batman 16. Some are already shitting themselves about Nightwing 15 saying Jason shouldnt hang with Dick after Dick treated him poorly. They are retarded.
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>>89863699
>look a lot like Dick

Pics or you are talking out of your ass.
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>>89866210
>Dick is flawed believe it!
>indeed he is a bad brother
>noooo he is prefect believe it!
Why you do this yourself? It's OK to admit that you like a bland character like dick, but it's truly pathetic when you try to prove otherwise and fail.
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>>89866341
>and then shouting ooc when they get along like in Robinwar/Eternal/Batman 16. Some are already shitting themselves about Nightwing 15 saying Jason shouldnt hang with Dick after Dick treated him poorly.
Jasonfag here, and why the fuck would I say any of that?
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>>89866308
I think he could've been better, but not shit, since it wasnt out of malice. Bruce drove that wedge in to start with and Dick was still a young idiot who just didnt handle the situation as well as he could have. He tried to improve and I dont think he should be condemn for that like Jason shoud'nt be condemned for trying to kill Tim at first when he came back.
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>>89866350
Black hair and blue eyes aint some rare trait
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>>89866341
They haven't really had many interactions between just the two of them in the New 52, have they? Curious as to how it'll play out.
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>>89866341
You don't need to be a Jasonfan to how bad Dick was to him. He never was there for him and literally wished him death.
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>>89866371

But I didnt say he was flawed, although I do agree that he has flaws. I just think being a shit brother isnt one of them. I would never say he isnt bland, since my fave character is Tim, who is def bland, but I love him anyway.
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>>89866341
>Some are already shitting themselves about Nightwing 15 saying Jason shouldnt hang with Dick after Dick treated him poorly. They are retarded
I literally only Dickfans having a pathetic melt down because Jason is going to appear in Nightwing, while Jasonfans simply didn't care.
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>>89866382

Not all of them obviously. But man some on tumblr/reddit have been super pissy about it. I dont get it, cause I like the batfam being friendly. If Tim was there instead of Duke it would be perfect.
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>>89866477
*only saw
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>>89866477

Both groups are acting dumb. Only Dickbab haters and Tim fans should be upset. Wally fans should be happy that Booth isn't drawing him Dick and Jason fans should be glad that they are hanging out.
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Why do people get so heated talking about Robins?
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>>89866504
Reddit don't like Jason and tumblr love any interaction with Jason and Dick. Stop lying.
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>>89866422
Nope. It was always Dick and Damian and Tim and Jason. Sometimes Dick and Tim or Tim and Damian or Damian and Jason. I cant think of a single panel with Just Dick and Jason. I hope for some brotherly ribbing. The Wally panels look good, so I got faith.
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>>89866504
It's the worst kind of fan where he doesn't like the character to be weak and want him to be sue under every writer and make the new52 as his bible.

Though I still prefer Duke on that scene since he's makes a lot more sense at that time.
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>>89866533
Show me a proof of Jason fans being upest that he's going to appear in Nightwing. Come on, I wait.
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>>89866559
Oh rly? https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/5tcunp/batfamily_meeting_by_david_finch/.


Also that's not true about tumblr. There are many Jason fans who act like those on CBR and think he should be a cool calm loner and not jokey younger brother.
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>>89866552
Because accusation.
Like I'm a jasonfag and liking all the attention he's got on other book and how chill he is when interact with bat senpai.
Yet somehow all of the dickhate and everything are my fault.
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>>89866610

Wrong anon man. I was just saying that any fan hating on that, Dickfan or Jasonfan would be dumb. I never said I saw them actually hating.
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>>89866610
I wonder about this too. Because some of them are excited for his appearance in NW and the rest couldn't care less. I haven't seen anyone being angry about it.
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>>89866477

You aint been on CBR then. Aahz has been such a bitch about Batman 16 and Darkfaggot hates King and Seeley writing Jason.
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>>89866645
And you assumed this person is a Jasonfan because?
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>>89866742
Becuase it goes back to the Dick was a shit brother argument. Thats who use that line. Damian fans typically like Dick and Tim fans don't exsit or dont say anything.
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> This thread tells me that Jason and Dick are interacting in Nightwing 15, which isn't a crossover

Holy shit I'm excited! Those are both my favorite DC characters.
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>>89866552

Because there can only be one!!!!! Do Green lanterns have this problem?
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>>89866790
Are you an absolute idiot? Just because they think Dick is a bad brother doesn't means that they are Jasonfan. They don't even know anything about him and think Dick has trained him when he was a robin.

That guy Smfu is actually a Jasonfan.
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>>89863500
Prove it's a samefag
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>>89866834
No cause we all agree that Kyle is the best one
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>>89866708
>Batman 16
You still didn't show me any proof that are angery about him appearing in NW.
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>>89866790
> Tim Fans don't exist

That hurts anon.
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>>89866891
I'm a Kyle fan and I know you're full of shit.
Alan Scott is the one everyone agrees on.
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>>89866811

Hey, Jason looks cute in that style. More his age too, even though I really like Soy.
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>>89866923

Dammit I know. I just want Kyle to have more :(
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>>89866891

Fucking lol

>>89866923

It should be Guy dammit
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>>89866790
>people who aren't fans of the robins don't exist
Stop embarrassing yourself, anon.
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>>89866811
If this doesnt end with him and Dick making out in front of Babs and Wally then I dont care
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>>89866964

I'm sorry that Mary-Sue Lantern doesnt have more fans, but thems the breaks. Are you by chance also a Tim Drake fan?
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>>89867022
Imagine if Seeley read that thread about Jason being tsundere for Dick. That was a fun thread.
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>>89867103
Holy shit that fucking thread was gold
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>>89867022
Thats uh something to strive for anon.
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>>89867103
That's was an embarrssing thread and would make him feel ashamed that he's a dick fanboy.
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>>89867103
>>89867131

Okay, I gotta know what thread
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>>89866860
>>89866901
>>89867021

I'm not trying to put together a presentation, just saying what i saw over the web. If you dont believe me thats fine, but I'm waiting for complaints to pop up after it comes out.
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>>89867022
>Making out with Jason, not Wally

Anon pls
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>>89867152
Don't worry, anon. King and Seeley don't take him seriously.

>"What do you think of the sexy Grayson?" -- they kind of phrased it timidly -- and Tim and I were like, "Yeah we'll lean into the sexy Dick, of course. Like what's the point of the character if not that?"
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>>89867212
You literally saw nothing and throw accusation without a proof.

Now, go away.
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>>89867159
This is the thread if I'm not mistaken:
http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/89136885
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>>89867235

Lets just agree that Babs is the worst choice.
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>>89867241
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>>89867241

They are right
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>>89867241
This a pure gold.
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>>89867241
FREAKING LMAO.
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>>89867300

Holy shit. I cant even tell whats serious and whats trolling. But is hilarious, Thanks
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>>89859255
Even Jaybird?
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>>89867241
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>>89866811

Who's the artist?
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>>89866790

Real talk, Im a Damian fan who doesnt like Dick. Anybody else with me?
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>>89858490

Cassandra Cain was the best one. Hottest, most interesting, most fun to root for.

Too bad DC has been shitting on her nonstop since like 2006.
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>>89868106
Minkyu Jung.
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>>89868128
Thats really unusual I think
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>>89867103
It made me want to read Jaydick fanfic, so it was quite the successful thread
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>>89868128
Dick and Damian are my favourite Robins, with Dick being slightly higher, their relationship is the best
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>>89868217

I went back and read Batman and Robin Eternal 7 , where Jason said that punching Dick was his dream date, and asking Tim how satisfying it was. I love hate sex so Jaydick is amazing for me.
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>>89868258
I mean I get why people lick Dick, but Im just not a fan of him or their relationship. Damian and Bruce do it more for me. Very comfy and sometimes tragic
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>>89868140
Thanks. Found their instagram and really like the art
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>>89863530
Aww shit nigga lets do this.
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>>89868427
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>>89868427
Is Dick using the force to give Donna an orgasm????
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>>89868542
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>>89868542
> Lock my door when you leave

Damn son
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>>89868578
I don't have the scan but this scene ends with Dick calling Roy a washed up junky.
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>>89868578
>>89868618

He isnt wrong either. Man fuck Roy.
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>>89868578
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>>89868655
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>>89868578

lmao remember when they were pushing Roy super hard on Justice League? Those were strange times.
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>>89868578

This is why Roy and Jason are a better friendship
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>>89868677
So how does this work? Does he do all the work?
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>>89868689
Man, I really miss seeing them together. They were the best bros in n52.
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>>89868677
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>>89868689
>>89868725

C'mon now. That was a bad moment, but Dick and Roy had many good moments too, especially with Lian. Manchild Roy who hung with Jason and his stupid hat suck.
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>>89868729
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>>89868755
Jason and Roy have a lot of good moments and they were really a good friends.
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>>89868761

Did Babs become a supervillan after this. Cause this was a super villian origin story if Ive ever seen one.
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>>89858490
Whats going on with his crotch??
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>>89868761
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>>89868782
Indeed. Jason can be quite jerk, but he still stayed with Roy whebln he got hurt and refused to leave him until he got better.
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>>89868795
I dunno, but that guy>>89863530 sure got rekt hard.
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>>89868840
Saying Dick doesn't have flaws is basically the calling card of the casual.
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>>89868840
>>89868868

The fuck. Didnt Mirage rape him?
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>>89868880
nananana racism nananana
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>>89868849
And here's the page.
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>>89868782
Man, there was some Nice moments but Roy and Dick is my heart and Im glad DC is going back to them
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I could post more stuff like him telling Superman to fuck off or throwing Jason in jail after Bruce had been turning a blind eye to what Jason had been doing but the point is that Dick is plenty flawed. Only a casual believes otherwise.
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>>89868921
What happened
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>>89868948
Kori went crazy and burnd him.
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>>89866834
It's just as bad really
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>>89868942
I agree with everything you said except the Jason part. Jason deserved to be in Jail.

But to add to Dick being a dick dont forget: Faking his death and all of Robin war. Plus visiting Tims parents in Eternal.
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>>89868942
How is it a flaw that he put a criminal in jail regardless of personal feelings towards said criminal though?
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>>89868932
They haven't bring it back, though. They get along, but they aren't close.
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>>89868977

Whats up with her attacking her boyfriends. I think she attacked Dick in a flashback too
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>>89869012

I mean there hasnt been time in Titans aka Wally and fiends, but Nightwing shows them talking and Jason aint been mentioned once.
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>>89868942
Jason is my favorite and I don't think he made a mistake to throw him in jail.

What truly bad was when he wished him death.
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>>89868377
>>89868427
>>89868448
>>89868484
>>89868507
>>89868542
>>89868578
>>89868655
>>89868677
>>89868729
>>89868761
>>89868840
>>89868868
>>89868880
>>89868942

Reminder that this is all just garbage writing, and isn't pertinent to the characterization of Dick at all.
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>>89868880

Whats the problem here?
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>>89868999
>>89869000
>Throwing a family member in jail is okay.
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>>89869077

When did he wish he was dead. I've heard this thrown around,but never seen the panel
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>>89868880
>tfw you just realized how much you want racist Batman to be a thing.
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>>89869097

Jason was murdering people and attacked Dick and Damian. If a family member attacked me and was attcaking crazy then hell yeah they would be in jail
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>>89869097
If your family member killed someone then throwing them in jail would be the right thing to do, besides they weren't particularly close to begin with
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Why do people bring this up when they talk about why Dick is an asshole? He's being honest what more do you want.
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>>89869061
Just because Jason isn't mentioned doesn't mean that he and Dick are suddenly close.

And let's not forget that Jason and Roy have parted on bad terms so I'm not expecting them to mention each other any time soon and Lobdell did say in his twitter that there's chance that Roy will appear someday in RHATO.
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>>89869086
>That doesn't count RHHHEEEE!
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>>89869116
In pre-n52 Nightwing. I think it was in blood brothers.
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>>89869300

It just seems to me that writers really want to ignore the first RHATO when dealing with Roy and Kori. I dont blame them and if we get Dick and Roy bromance then its a bonus for me, even if I didnt mind the Jason bromance.
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>>89869351
Lobdell in general is ignored regardless of series.
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>>89869400

I actually hope the new RHATO stays good so people pay attention
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>>89869351
Writers ignore anything that doesn't fit them. Like how Starfire solo series and Damian's development were ignored.

And about Roy, we still literally don't know what canon and what's not in his history. They might ignore his time in n52 or they might not. We don't know yet.
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>>89869338
Dick needs to date more dark skinned cuties like Kori and this chick and less Babs.
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>>89869293
Theres honest and there harsh, which Batman and Dick can be
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>>89869477
I think he's supposed to be in Green Arrow soon? Might clarify things a little.
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>>89869540
Starting with issue #18, so next month.
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>>89869293
>Orange hair
>Black eyebrows
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>>89862884
Really I feel like Jason and Tim fans really hate on the others
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>>89869888
Timfans does, it's Dickfans who hate on Tim. Jasonfans actually like him because of his relationship with Jason and are actually the ones who used to defend him.
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>>89863609
Does anyone actually like Harper?
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>>89869888
They're the ones with more reason to since Tim's been treated really badly since nu-52 started and Jason has a history of not being written very well (his current book is great though) meanwhile Dick and Damian are both in two books each
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>>89870016
Tumblr does, but then again, nobody from tumblr buys the comics anyway
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>>89863735
This new run is getting pretty good
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>>89870016
Tynion
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>>89869992
Can confirm. I used to defend Tim, but not anymore because some of his fans really hate Jason and anyone who like him.

I don't hate Tim though, but I wil not defined again.
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>>89869992
Damianfags are the ones that don't like Tim, I've seen more Dickfags who hate Jason
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>>89864002
Bad boy with a secret heart of gold very original
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>>89870107
*defend him
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>>89870113
Jason is pretty much hated by every Robin fan for some reason.
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>>89870121
What a great answer. I hope you feel better about yourself now.
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>>89869293
>Those sloping windows

Is this that JAV pool?
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>>89870168
Jason's problem is that he reads too clearly like an edgy OC character.
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>>89870168
Damianfans and Jasonfans seems to get along lately tho. Even damifan here stopped hating Jason.
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>>89858490
Alfred
Dick
Tim
Babs (Pre Flashpoint)
Damian
Cassandra
Steph
Jason
Luke
Kate
Jean Paul
Batcow
Duke
Babs (Post Flashpoint)
>>
Bat-Mite
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>>89870246
So does Damian when written badly to be honest, it's all a matter of writing with how these characters are perceived
>>
>>89870269
Huh? What happened?
>>
>>89870301
Batman #16 happened.
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>>89870301
Batman 16 was purty good at mending some fences
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>>89858490
>Alfred
>Dick
>Jason
>Damian
>Cass
>Kate
>Tim
>Bat-Mite
>Batcow
>Steph
>Babs
>Duke
>Harper
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>>89870331
Does this means that if Jason and Dick get along in NW upcoming issue, their fans will too?
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>>89870269
Everyone got along in that last Batman storytime because there were no Timfags to start shit
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>>89870414
There were Timfags, because Duke was there instead of Tim and it literally felt like they'd just turned nu-52 Tim black because of Duke's lack of personality
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>>89870389
I hope so and not just because I want fanfics
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>>89870389
One could hope because it's ridiculous to see them hating on each other.
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>>89858490
Clayface
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>>89870269
I always wondered why Robin fans don't stick together instead of fighting.
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>>89870711
Because the Robins are often pitted against each other in the comics
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>>89870711
They have get better recently.

Robin threads used to be freaking cringy before.
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>>89869440
I was surprised about how nice to read the book is after catching up with it this week.
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>>89870711
I think it depends where you go, Tumblr for example wants a Robinpile orgy, CBR... Well it's full of characterfags, but they tend to bitch about who's superior in individual fan threads.
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>>89870711

Why would they? Unless there is a bigger threat to fight.
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>>89870711
Maybe now with DC pushing "Robins are brothers!" thing, they hopefully will.
>>
Jason
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>>89870958
Because it's pathetic to see them fight.

Their favorite characters are all under the same brand and they all doing well. So, why they feel threatened by the others presence?
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>>89870777
That's cause DC is finally pushing them as brothers and not who's stronger or who's Daddy's favorite
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>>89871113
To be fair atom fans had good reason to feel threatened by Damian and now Duke. DC has not been kind to Tim. If u don't like Jason then his friendship with Tim was annoying
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>>89871113
>they all doing well
>Tim

It's going downhill with Tim since Damian appeared.
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>>89871182
>>89871188
Maybe we should exclude Tim fans then until he get better.
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>>89871273
I vote for this.
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>>89871188
His Red Robin series was alright, problem was when they just used him to shore up Titan's sales under a book with a mediocre writer governed by editorial mandate. They should probably have tried doing what they are with Damian now and seen if he could support 2 on goings.
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>>89871273
Have my vote too.
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>>89870194
I like Jason Iv bought every issue of RHAOL since new 52 even the really bad ones but I don't think he is any more original than Dick. They both have cliché to their character.
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>>89871443
He didn't say Jason is original, he just said that he's complex and has more depth.
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>>89870986
I just wish we had more build up for it
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>>89858490
The guy's likeable and the first. It's funny that the writers picked up on how it was important for him to give the first seal of approval for any Batfam member they want to last (Tim, Batwoman, Damian). Tynion and Snyder missed the memo though. Harper blowing up at the most easygoing member was probably supposed to make her look badass and independent but she just looked like a jerk.
>>
I'm surprised they never made a Robin team book, excluding We Are Robin.
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>>89871834
Agreed. I hate that Jason in the Batfam makes no sense unless we throw away all past canon.
>>
>>89871955
Yep. A digital monthly would do well.
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>>89872044
Think it would be to similar to TMNT?
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>>89871955

Because. It would delude them in their other comics or some stupid reason. Personally them and the Batgirls have all one comic should be a thing. Yet it isn't because of probably the most ridiculous of reasons.
>>
>>89863735
what a qt
>>
>>89873387
Yes,
We know.
We all agree.
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>>89868217
>>89868266

Yesss. Love me some Jaydick. Cant wait for Nightwing 15 either.
>>
>>89868578

Rpy shouldve beat his ass for this crap
>>
>>89874284
For telling the truth??????
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>>89867300
See this was good but made me want unrequited angst rather than actual shipping.
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>>89874424
What do you mean?
>>
>>89874363

For being a dickhead just cause hes upset
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>>89874437
I want Jason to cut himself at night because Dick will never return his affections
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>>89874791

I like the way you think anon.
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>>89874424
>>89868217
>>89868266
>>89874223

Do you guys not see Batfamily shipping as incest?
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Daily reminder that Dick only gets fucked by manly men. Edgy crybabies need not apply.
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>>89875276
Owlman and Batman are crybabies and slightly edgy
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>>89875276
Batman is a big edgy crybaby
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>>89875807
Batman is not edgy or a crybaby. Only someone that never read anything Batman would think otherwise.
>>
>>89874901

No. Thats how people get away with BruceDick and how Winick got away with implying BruceJason
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>>89860263
>puts Jason high for personal tastes
>puts Tim high because others like him
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>>89866552
These threads are so shit people are acting like we should recognize CBR usernames and what they think about this shit

I fucking hate you people
>>
>>89875908

Jaydick isnt really incest though. They dont see each other as brothers like the rest
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>>89861126

Cassfags are pathetic. She doesn't even have any interesting stories besides random chunks of Detective comics.
>>
>>89874901
They aren't related

Hell writers can't decide whether Bruce and Dick are father/son, brothers, or just friends
>>
>>89877430
Cassie had an entire good run as Batgirl, you fuck.
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>>89877438

We are clearly back to father/son territory and Jason never left it, so the shipping is gross
>>
>>89877621
I don't ship them, but I thought the referenced thread was funny.
>>
>>89877621
>Bruce/any are gross
>Jaydick is hot

Thats kinda hypocritical no?
>>
>>89877544
But Steph was the better batgirl
>>
>>89877621
Please go back to tumblr, none of these characters are related except Bruce and Damian
>>
>>89877854

Do adopted kids not count to you? Does everything have to be about blood. You can treat or feel like someone is family without blood you know.
>>
>>89859255
Eh, I'd put it as Dick > Alfred > Tim > Damian
>>
>>89874791
>>89874881
Dickfags why are you projecting with another character?
>>
>>89863109
I'd like to insert myself into dick
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>>89875276
Those guys are all pretty edgy. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though.
>>
The best part of the Batfamily is clearly Bat-Mite, desu. Deep lore.
>>
>>89877854
Tumblr is super pro Incest though
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>>89859255
This guy's "with it."
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>>89858490
Nightwing and Mute Batgirl should totally fuck.
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>>89880121

They both do a lot of body stuff. Did Dick and Cass interact much?
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>>89880094
No it's not, current tumblr has witchunts and doxxing on users who post it because they view incest as abusive
>>
>>89880189
Ehh fuck me right not following Tumblr trends
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>>89877207
To be fair, if you even graze CBR you can recognize who's who just by their writing style. I think they flame each other here because if they pulled this nonsense on their form they would be banned
>>
>>89858490
Steph forever and always!

Probably Alfred too.
>>
>>89877800
Steph and Cass appealed to different people. Cass appealed to two separate groups, I think - 1) the proto-SJWs who were like "muh representation of non-white and non-abled people," and 2) the people who wanted someone who could literally pwn all you noobz.

Steph appeals to people who like the spunky underdog.

I'm the latter. :)
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>>89870986
Because then you get me complaining about "muh Steph and Carrie and Helena Robins" ;)
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>>89874901

Not really since Steph/Cass/Harper just works currently for me.
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>>89864602

That and her "way of detective skills was amusing. It was basically so she's a great fighter, but everything else? Yeah... seeing the various writers work with that made it fun.
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>>89880746

But why? Carrie and Helena is elseworlds, Steph was Robin like a week or not at all in the 52.
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>>89880697

Cass only appealed to me being the outsider, who was totally devoted to one side, and when it came to all other things. She was a noobz. The other side of the coin was she was raised to be something she didn't want to be. She rejected that.
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>>89880985
The problem is why did they choose to retcon the n52 the way they did - why did they remove Steph and Cass entirely, but keep all four Robins? (I prefer Steph as Batgirl, but her time as Robin was pretty fun until the very end).
>>
>>89881065
Cass was an outsider to "normal" society, but she was the ultimate insider to the Batfamily - given her own freaking Batcave immediately, and always emotionally close to Bruce.
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>>89863609
Nice bait.
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>>89881328

She wasn't given her own Batcave immediately. She got her own cave because she only cared about the life of a vigilante, not anything outside of that. The form was more a harsh reality check for her. The moment she went gallivanting without a mask in front of some government spooks, Batman took her away from Barbara and stuck her in a cave. Then it took Barbara having to fix Cassandra's mess and with the two of them working back to get Cass a secret identity again.

Also when she got her own cave was fourteen issues into her own ongoing. Also being the "insider" was the point. Of all the people in the Bat Family, Cassandra is the most committed to the Bat symbol. She wants to be Batman's heir. She doesn't want a life beyond this like Stephanie, Barbara, Dick, or Tim. She thinks only of the mission.

The only other person as committed to that is Bruce. Why Babs was her anchor in trying to steer her away from that at times. But she couldn't. Cass wants this life. She wants to use her skills and to atone for what she did.
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>>89874901
Only ones that are incest to me are Bruce+Dick, Jason, Cass, or Damian and Dick+Damian. I dislike several other combinations as well but I don't see the incest vibe when most of them have never even lived together.
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>>89881605

Bruce, Alfred,Tim, and Barbara all realized this. Why even Tim had a freaking fantasy of his ideal world that Cassandra was the Batman in it. Of all the people in the Family at that time (prior to Damian) she could have been it.

She actually was even doing it in Hong Kong. That's another aspect one could appreciate. She truly is a chip off of Bruce.
>>
>>89881605
Not saying it's wrong, just saying that people who say, "oooh, Cass was such an outsider" miss the freaking narrative structural point.
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>>89880296
>Not waging stealth wars against CBR poster on /co.
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