KSBD/K6BD/Kill Six Billion Demons Seeker of Thrones 4/30

>unlimitless
Typo?

>>89822736
>unlimitless

Is that a word?

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WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET TO MINDFUCKED ALLISON

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>>89822852

Mammon when? Gog-Agog when? Solomon David when? Jadis when? I just want to meet all of the seven.

>>89822736
>I will weaken "then"
I'm pretty sure that has to be a typo, that sentence seam to be talking about the other kings, it should be I will weaken "them",

>"I will weaken then"

>"unlimitless"

Whoops.

>Jagganoth standing up at full height
BOI

Asked this last thread with no success, but is there an archive of the original KSBD on MSPA forums? And to anyone that read it, is it any good?

Jagganoth is HUGE! That means he has HUGE guts!

>>89822815
>>89822736
>>89822816
Compact is also used incorrectly.

An accord/deal ect, is just pact.

it can be used as a VERB or adjective, for "to bind/join", but not a noun.

Pact is the origin. pactum, pacisci.

>>89823035
Allison domming Cio and/or younger Mottom when?

>>89822815
>>89823154
>>89823564
>>89823129

yikes. Is it Incubus, is he just really bad at speaking?
did he have errors on previous pages, we didn't notice?

>>89823615
>yfw Incubus constantly uses long words thinking they make him sound fancy but actually has no fucking idea what half of them mean

Abbadon, please make this canon and don't fix the errors.

Abby may have been drunk while writing this page

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>>89823266
There is no archive sadly and no it wasn't very good. Just interesting to see the comic's roots.

>>89822736
real incubus has a peculiar way of speaking

>barely already
>i will weaken then
>compact
>unlimitless

either he speaks strangely or abbadon was severely drunk when he typed this

>>89824054
technically, "she wields- she wields all the power of- the old king"
as well.

this could be intentional him saying it twice. but its not clear.

>>89824130
That was a stutter. He was nervous because Jagganoth is intimidating.

>>89824130
That's probably him stuttering on the account of the fifty foot tall monster standing over him.

>>89823266
I think it's on webarchive. can't remember.

>>89824130
eh that's more incubus being intimidated at jagg's massive dick

>>89823615
>is he just really bad at speaking?
She wields-
-she wields all the power of-
-the old king

So yes.

>>89823564
That usage is fine.

Abbadon confirmed on twitter that he fucked up

Do you think that Zaid will eventually be rescued and become an interesting character or that he'll remain the "kidnapped boyfriend" for the rest of the story?

>>89825002
Abbadon has said that he will become a part of the cast.

>>89825002
Is Allison still doing this to save Zaid? He didn't really seem like a good boyfriend in the beginning,

>>89822736
>blessed by YISUN’s angels to cut away weak and useless things from the world and forge it into a more pure form

An interesting take on a brute, Abbadon.

>>89822736
Incubus is a qt.

>>89823266
>>89823852
I just like how Nietzsche's description was "Slew God". That was fun. And the animated gif showing all the different Allisons.

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>>89825574
I wish I had saved Nietzsche.

>>89825437
It basically ascribes to him true Royalty.

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Seems to have been fixed.

>>89825288
Yeah, but he's still some guy who doesn't deserve being kidnapped by genocidal gods. She might think that that could have been her and that she might think that he'd do the same even if he's not that great a guy.

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Man I really wanna see shit get crazy with Jagganoth. I want to see him fuck things up.

>>89822736
So, does Incubus stumble on his words because he's intimidated by the size of the mighty murder-god before him?
Or because he got a good look under his loin cloth when he stood up?

>>89826032
Yes

>>89823496
Jagganoth went from thicc to /fit/ and so can you!

>>89823615
I could actually see Incubus being less suave in person than he is in dreams.

>>89825288
She's nominally in it to save Zaed, even if he's a dick, but she's almost using him as an excuse to continue on this path.

>>89826032
He's intimidated by the size of the mighty murder-god under the loin cloth

>>89825288
But he's HER debatable-quality boyfriend.

>>89825980
Him and Solomon David are the two Demiurges I'm most interested in. Solomon for maximum smug and Jagganoth for maximum MURDER.
Also I want to know what lead Jagganoth to what he is today. The image we see of him when he first received the Key made him look kind've like a portly monk, pretty far cry from what he is today.

>>89825980
>Allison moving to fight with Soloman David
>Get Hype
>Weeks of Getting Hype to kill the King Smug of Smugington
>Kicks down the door to his throne room
>He's getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of him by Jagganoth
>It's not even fair
>stop it Jags, let him stand up
>Soloman pleads with Allison to save him
>She can't
>Most brutal Mortal Kombat fatality death ever as Jagganoth power slams the smug out of Soloman

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>>89826283
I'm pretty curious about Jagganoth as well. He seemed incredibly broken before/during the making of his mask and nails. Plus I suppose I find it interesting that he's the only Demiurge to hide behind something like a mask.

in b4 he's a big guy

>>89822736
>unlimitless

What demiurge are you looking forward too the most? I'm actually pretty interested in Mammon, even though he is seemingly this book's focus. I mean, the guy literally BOUGHT his godhood. Gog-Agog also seems pretty interesting.

>>89826580
Besides Jagganoth, Gog seems like she'll be really interesting, given she's not human or servant, She's a pile of worms, yet could easily be the strongest or at least on par with Jagganoth if she got her shit together. So she has to be interesting and we haven't seen all of her yet.

>>89822736
>My friends, it has often been said that I like war.

>My friends, I like war...

>No, friends, I love war!

Considering his monk-like appearance beforehand, it could be possible that he's the most "godly" of all the Demiurges, and that the wielding the actual power of a god has driven him mad. That might explain the descriptor to him in the OP text, he views himself as a perversion, a heretic, and thus wants to wipe the slate clean?
That's all just postulating though.

>>89826291
I don't think anyone wants Solomon of all people to go in two pages with no buildup. Someone that smug needs to have a satisfying end.

>>89826580
Mammon for the pure greed, and Gog-Agog for what one anon pointed out as attempting to mimic others, with Allison, White Chain, and Cio that could be really fucked up.
Jadis though, that's who I'm waiting for. The only one to say "Oh fuck, it's Kill Six Billion Demons, we're all fucked" to everyone.

>>89826580
I'm pretty interested in Jag and Solomon, but I have to admit I want to know more about Jadis. We don't seem to know much about her.

>>89826580
I just want to know what his personality's actually like. He's the only one of whom we've literally seen nothing.

>>89826633
>Considering how Nadia described Jagganoth as not being able to be peaceful after the war and his background being a child soldier. Did/Does Jagganoth possibly have/had/has PTSD?

>On a colossal scale. But like Juggernaut Star, Jagganoth is also more aware of the true nature of the world than other characters.

It could be something like that but i'm not sure. Chances are it might be that he just has a fundamental nature to 'destroy' and was without purpose until he heard 'yisun'.

>>89826634
Didn't Mottom and WOG say that he's the only one of them that actually thinks he's righteous? Having him break down after realizing how much of a piece of shit he is might be satisfying.
>>89826461
Mottom says that "peace is not for him". Abbadon also said that he was the only one of demiurges that never felt love of any kind. Methinks something really fucked up happened in his childhood. Child soldier maybe?

>>89826686
>>89826621
Oh shit.
He's fucking Sundowner.

>>89826580
Solomon because his deal seems cool, and Gog-Agog because I want to see some more technology

>>89826726
Yeah, during the Council Mottom mocks him for still thinking he's a hero.

>>89826291
>the demiurge of pride
>ever calling out for help
If anything, he'll remain smug till the very end. He may lose the battle, he may lose his life, but he will never lose the smug.

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>>89826739
Not quite. Sundowner wants eternal war and for there to always be conflict as a means for business.

Jagganoth just wants to unmake and destroy everything.

>>89826777
So brutal, yet so entertaining.

>>89826679
I hope he doesn't turn out to act like some generic fantasy dragon. Abadon said in a WOG that he would have accepted a box full of skulls, as long as the proper paperwork was filed. Seems to me like the guy is greedy as fuck, but also an absolute economic genius. I mean he actually had to have enough money to buy his key, and something tells me he made that money himself, didn't just steal it.

>>89826768
So each of the Demiurges are at least slightly tied to one of the 7 Deadly Sins right?
Jagganoth Wrath
Solomon David Pride
Mammon Greed
Incubus probably Lust
Mottom Envy maybe?
Would that make Jadis Sloth, since she's literally frozen in a block of ice, and Gog-Agog Gluttony?

>>89826856
You got Mottom and Gog-Agog switched, the rest is correct.

>>89826844
He's a pariah and an outcast among his own people, so he's unlike the others. I basically figured him as a person not unlike the shadowbroker from Mass effect, just given godly powers.

>>89826856
Switch Mottom and Gog-Agog and you got it

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>>89826777
>Filename
Tip Top kek anon.

>>89826873
Well he's an outcast just because his people don't approve of him being an impossibly rich demiurge, not necessarily because of how he acts.

>>89826856
Mottom is gluttony. She eats constantly, both for pleasure and to remain young.
Gog is envy. During the meeting back in book one she immitates the characters that just finished talking. And considering she is a living mass of worm, she probably copies other people's faces all the time.
Jadis is sloth. Fat lazy slut that can't bother getting out of her bed and has her servants carry her everywhere.

>>89826871
I kind've thought Mottom would be Envy considering her being so envious of the youth of her subjects, but I guess Gluttony makes sense too.

>>89826910
Being a 'greedy bankster god' is unforgivable to them basically. The Kind People don't seem to be the type to take power, yet Mammon did.

>>89826945
She consumes worlds relentlessly leaving nothing behind. Also she's always fucking eating.

>>89826945
It more than makes sense. It's obvious

>>89826910
They disapprove of him being a master and not a servant, his people take servitude very seriously apparently.

>>89826844
That just gave me the impression that he was a boring bureaucrat. Or maybe that he doesn't understand social queues.

>>89826982
>yfw Mammon is literally autistic and bought his key because he didn't want to leave the house and fight for one

>>89826726
>how much of a piece of shit he is
How exactly is Solomon a piece of shit? He stays alive through martial arts instead of weird murder, keeps his worlds in relative stability and peace, and has a nice beard.

>>89826982
I think Mammon just understands that money is quite literally power. Not that you can buy power, but that the two are linked intrinsically.

>>89827009
All the Demiurges are pieces of shit, apart maybe from Jadis in her current state. Also, he's associated with pride, do you really think he's going to turn out to be a nice person?

>>89827009
We know Solomon is a tyrant who sees himself as a benevolent dictator despite taking away any sense of freedom from his worlds. He may be the least outright evil, but he's still a huge fucking monster even if he doesn't slit the throat of girls to feed his tree wife.

>>89827009
We don't really know exactly what Solomon David gets up to when he's not just sitting around being purple, but according to White Chain all the Demiurges are quite insane. It could be that his sin is deluding himself into believing that he can fix Heaven and bring about another Golden Age, when in reality he's just making it worse. During the council meeting he mentions that he doesn't respect "The King that abandoned his Kingdom", so when the true King returns he might oppose him to the detriment of all.

>>89827042
Sure, maybe. But even if someone isn't nice, that doesn't mean they're a piece of shit. Zoss certainly isn't nice. Based on how she's been acting lately, Alison isn't nice. Who knows, we may end up in a Lisa-the-Joyful type situation where it becomes apparent our protagonist is making the world worse by taking down all the authority figures, some of whom might not really be bad.

>>89827002
He and allison will bond over their shared interest in magical girl anime

>>89827092
>He may be the least outright evil

From what we know. Pride's seen as the worst of all sins and I'm sure Abby wanted to play with that, I doubt that's all there is to him.

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>>89826931
>Mottom is gluttony. She eats constantly, both for pleasure and to remain young.
It extends beyond that.

She lives in wasteful luxury. To appease her collection of kings and queens, and to comfort herself over her own fears of death and dethronement.

This reminds me of a Nedroid comic, actually. It's surprising how relevant it is.

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>>89827002
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>>89827148
All I mean is that so far he hasn't done any outright shitty things like keep a million junkies in his basement for his amusement or slit peoples throats to feed to a tree that gives him immortal fruits. But just because we haven't seen anything yet, doesn't mean there isn't anything.

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>>89827171
You could view her Husband's habit of collecting younger women as an extension of this gluttony, and his hunger for their lives even after his death as a part of that.
Also, speaking of Nedroid, here's Incubus.

>>89827180
Yeah, him, Gog-Agog and Jadis haven't really committed any onscreen evil, and Solomon of that bunch is the closest to normal so it's easy to view him as such.

>>89827171
oh gawd edit when

>>89827254
I actually have been thinking of Jadis as the least evil without even considering why. I guess it's just hard for me not to not feel sorry for her. Of course, she might turn out to be the worst of them all.

>>89827291
Was she imprisoned against her will? Because it's possible that she's just so lazy she keeps herself on ice.

>>89827291
We know her greatest wish right now is to die. She might put up the least resistance.

>>89827291
I mean the only thing that Jadis can seemingly do is write messages on the walls of her tomb. Though Abby did say the Jadis was the second weakest demiurge right after Mammon. So maybe there is other stuff she can do.

>>89827009
>>89827042
>>89827128
We've gotten some snippits about their methods of rule. Jadis' technocracy is pretty much the inquisition plus big brother.

And we got a version of that King Solomon story with the two women who were arguing over a child. The results were not very happy for those involved, really. In Solomon David's empire, everyone lives comfortably "enough". In exchange, they lack freedom.

>>89827314
Well, it's not like she CAN resist as it stands.
It actually seems possible that Jadis has little to no control over her own realm, it's all her weird blue-hooded cult and she's just a tool.

>>89827314
>too lazy to live but also too lazy to kill yourself
Abaddon is really playing it hard huh

>>89827307
No, she was placed inside it to save her life. She saw too much of the true shape of the universe and it almost killed her. That's what brought her from second-strongest demiurge down to second-weakest, IIRC.

>>89826726
>Mottom says that "peace is not for him". Abbadon also said that he was the only one of demiurges that never felt love of any kind. Methinks something really fucked up happened in his childhood. Child soldier maybe?
Yup. Member of the Corpse Legion, whose members are legally dead and thus infinitely disposable.

>>89828192
I feel like you could do this to every strip and it would be great.

>>89828192
I love this. This is amazing. This is great.

>>89822736
This is why large alliances are shit. The bigger they are, the more likely they are to get defectors.

So, I wonder what Incubus' deal with wine is. He mentioned that whoever he stole the key from is a drunk, but he seems kind of obsessed with the stuff.

>>89824130
>>89824158
>>89824169
I think it's also to tell us that Jagganoth is something quite new, and that the power of the Old King may not be enough in any case.

>>89825288
>Is Allison still doing this to save Zaid?
Yes.

>He didn't really seem like a good boyfriend in the beginning,
Her more tumblr "friends" didn't like him, he must be an alright guy.

>>89825669
Fish Allison is getting dangerously close to my fetishes.

>>89828529
Fucking fantastic

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>>89822736
Best powercouple!

>>89826580
Gog-Agog. I love her concept. A bunch of round worms that are collectively a demi-urge.

>>89826844
Post yfw Mammon is literally just Donald Trump as a wingless bug-dragon.

>>89826945
>I kind've thought Mottom would be Envy considering her being so envious of the youth of her subjects
She seems perfectly happy walking around as a shrivelled up corpse and resents having to be the pretty mother goddess queen all the time. I don't think she cared about youth/beauty, she just didn't want to die.

>>89827224
Abused becomes the abuser. Pretty classic trope and a stereotype with some truth to it.

>>89828812
top kek

>>89827329
I wonder what he means by "weakest". Mottom may have badass magic but her form of immortality was shit and psychologically she wasn't exactly a beacon of strength.

>>89828812
Mottom is so done with this shit.

>>89826461
I always forget that Jagganoth wears a helmet and doesn't just have a weird elephant-skull face

>>89828943
>having to be the pretty mother goddess queen all the time
Not that it was especially hard for her. The point is for her to posture and look terrifying, not to comfort and wait upon her subjects. She's tired of the effort, of having to look strong to make people fear, respect, and most importantly, obey her.

She only brought up the pretty part in relation to what's expected of women, when talking to Allison about her own life growing up. Of the reasons why Hastet Om picked her to be his wife.

For what she had and has to do for her subjects, all she had to do was guarantee them their continued prosperity and life of opulence.

>>89829015
I believe the context of the post was in relation to their personal combative ability.

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>>89828263
>Member of the Corpse Legion
>Made a dubious pact with an angel that gave him great power
>Now only wants to destroy everything he can get his hands on
Jagganoth is Wiegraf as Belias from Final Fantasy Tactics?

>>89829048
I'm guessing one of the reasons Mottom is considered "weak" is because she was so beholden to her subjects. She seemed convinced that if she didn't give them what they wanted she would be undone, when the odds are she could break them all with her Key on a whim.

>>89828704
>So, I wonder what Incubus' deal with wine is. He mentioned that whoever he stole the key from is a drunk,
It's pretty obviously Maya.

>>89829122
So wait, Maya's technically in charge but she's just so drunk that she doesn't bother ruling?
For some reason I thought the Queen would've been Metis.

>>89829112
Could she? She's kind of a lame usurper Demiurge. All the power she has she got from her husband. I'd be willing to bet Hastet was much more powerful than she is now from whatever she managed to glean from him. I mean look at how his death affected him.

>>89829154
Incubus seems to have taken her seat and key via a coup somehow.

>>89829155
Hard to tell, but it's still doubtful that most of her subjects could've posed a threat.
What I'm wondering is if the actual destruction of her husband might actually make her more powerful.

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>>89829200
Someone should do the Sword one.
Or this.

>>89829182
I think it will, if only because it removed a major crutch and could force her back on the path to royalty and all that.

>>89829112
Well, do remember that Cio was taken down by an army.

Fights aren't only one-on-one duels, after all. It can be legions against one. And Mottom rules over the populations of over hundreds of thousands of worlds. She hasn't gotten through all of them yet, but she's definitely gone through a lot considering that the Seven have been ruling long enough that people have only ever known their rule in Throne.

>>89829244
Could go full-blown hedonist with that Gluttony theme. Death is already a foregone conclusion for her in her eyes, so she's got nothing holding her back anymore.

>>89829200
Goddamn this is too fucking perfect holy shit

>>89829341
>Could go full-blown hedonist with that Gluttony theme. Death is already a foregone conclusion for her in her eyes, so she's got nothing holding her back anymore.
Last we saw her she'd resolved to find another way to live forever. She has her issues but she's still a demiurge.

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>>89828192
>>89828529
>>89828812
>>89829200

why is this so fucking good?

>>89829414
She seemed rather manic when she said that. I think her breaking down and crying are more truthful, her feelings of despair overcoming her.

>>89829241
I'm doing this with Solomon. Who should the challenger be?

Just how old do you think the 7 are?

There was YISUN and the gods the came into being from holy suicide/division.

Then there were servants, angels, and mortals made by the gods.

Then the gods made the 777,777 universes and turned to stone.

Then 30 kalpa roll by with only the angels in throne before Zoss shows up and wrecks their shit. Then other people showed up after who knows how long.

Presumably some point before or after this humans started masking the hot black flames in the void to make devils and pissed off the angels.

Hunger for dominion and war broke out among all the people who made it to Throne and Zoss fucked off to do ROYALTY things.

Then that war lasted for who knows how long until the seven were left because they apparently worked together at some point.

Then they sat on their thrones for another indeterminate amount of time before Zoss picked his successor to set the current events into motion.

>>89829476
Solomon as the Challenger
Zoss as King Karate

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>>89829544
I imagine most of the current demiurges are at least 3 thousand years old. Even that is probably a conservative estimate. Who knows how old Gog is and Mammom could be any age.

>>89829569
But Solomon never tried to fight Zoss and Solomon is known for his karate. It makes sense he's king karate.

>>89829476
In lieu of any other options, Allison is pretty much the only option, isn't she?

>>89829451
Last time she totally broke she killed her husband and stole his empire.

>>89829447
Nedroid works really well for things like this.

You should see all the One Piece ones

>>89828704
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suit_of_cups

>Seven of Cups: A young person sees seven cups among the clouds and visions therein. The card is a caution against over idealizing your situation and getting your head lost among the clouds. Your dreams need a firm foundation in order to take root. Do not build castles in the air and fantasize without taking responsibility for your actions.

I mean I doubt the in universe reason is "for tha symbolisms" but still

>>89829595
I think 30,000 years would still be a conservative guess.

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This was a lot more time consuming than I thought it would be. I think it's better to leave all the dialogue as it is.

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>>89830247

>>89829687
Where would one go about seeing these things?

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>>89830323
Did you try googling one piece nedroid?

>>89828726
The power of the Old King is always enough, anon. it's the Key of Kings, the limitless true name of god. Not to mention, compared to the old Demiurges, the current Seven are pussies, the old Demiurges wielded power and intellect beyond imagination. Zoss himself could suplex Jagganoth off the edge of Throne, according to Abaddon at least.

>>89830377
As far as we know, Zoss and Meti are the two most powerful figures we've seen. I think the current demiurges are the strongest though, they got their strength by absorbing the keys of fallen key bearers.

>>89830377
Especially considering that most of Jagganoth's incredible strength comes from a few feathers given to him by a prime angel. Zoss bitch slapped a ton of them two seconds after reaching heaven.

>>89826633
Seems like it would be too much overlap with Jadis.

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>>89830323

>>89827148
Pride isn't the worst sin it's the most dangerous.

And that is because its the only sin that can sometimes be a virtue. A man should take pride in his work or his country while greed is something that should always be avoided. For that reason you can never truly purge pride from your being like the others.

>>89830407
A beggar in the streets could absorb the keys of kings, that wouldn't make him mighty.

Let me ask you, do you consider the crows who flock to a battlefield to feast on the dead to be stronger then the soldiers that fell there?

>>89830414
Well as much as I know Zoss is stronger, Jagganoth's strength is honestly his own, he worked hard to be the most nightmarish of the Seven. The nails only aid him by making him unkillable.

>>89830407
They're not the strongest because they don't really know how to use the keys to their full potential. The original demiurges were fully actualized like Zoss was and broke into Throne on their own. The current demiurges got their power through backstabbing, chance, luck what have you. They may have as much potential as the old guard but they're not actualized like they were. Jadis was pretty strong though and she was able to witness the shape and come just short of death. If she hadn't tried that she'd probably be the current strongest.

>>89830431
What about lust? If you aint lusting after your lady there aint much success in that relationship.

>>89830476
Lust isn't just 'I wanna fuck that unicorn' Lust is 'I want to fuck that unicorn till death and fuck all my other obligations and duties to the world i need that unicorn pussy'.

>>89830468
The three most dangerous members of the Seven are Jagganoth, Jadis and Gog-Agog. Jagg, for obvious reasons. Jadis, if she were not a husk of body, would probably be on par, if not second only to Jagg, and Gog-Agog, if she wasn't absolutely batty, would probably be the most dangerous of all the Seven.

>>89830468
>>89830501
It was confirmed on tumblr that Jadis was strongest before her accident.

>>89830510
No no, Jagg's has always been the strongest. The only one of the Seven who could even come close to matching him 1v1 was Jadis.

>>89830531
Gog is the wild card since if she actually tried she could be the strongest of the seven.

>>89830414
>Especially considering that most of Jagganoth's incredible strength comes from a few feathers given to him by a prime angel.
We only have Mottom and Jagg's word that that's actually what happened.

>>89830438
The Crows are alive so yeah.

>>89830574
Jagg seems trustworthy.

>>89830588
Zoss isn't alive and he's still pretty strong.

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>I hope im not spoiling anything

>>89830602
Zoss isn't dead either though. He chooses not to care about his metabolic state.

>>89830651
I am of the opinion that Abbadon knew this would happen and that's why he put all those goblets in there.

>>89830597
He has a very honest face.

>>89830691
No, he's confirmed dead. We saw his head get cut of and everything.

Tell me, what would happen if I removed the nails?

>>89830711
We've seen him around afterwards a number of times, each time with his head on his body. Death isn't something he's concerned about.

>>89830731

It would be extremely painful.

>>89830711
Oh and just because his head was cut off he's supposed to lay down and die? Who says? Part of being a King is making your own rules.

>>89830743
Both of those things are true, but don't change the fact that he's dead.

I'm so jealous that this comic exists. It makes me feel like I'll never make anything so good as this.

>>89830743
>>89830748
Zoss is in fact dead, his head was cut off and he forsaw his death. However he chooses not to deal with the repercussions of dying. Doesn't change that he is dead though

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>>89830764
All you have to do is try.

Let's not have this "Zoss isn't actually dead" argument again because both sides know he got his head cut off and all you want to argue about is whether or not you can use the word "dead" to describe him. It's stupid.

>>89830772
If none of the effects of being dead apply in what sense can he be said to be dead?

People don't always die when they are killed.

>>89830747
He's got a sweet boipussi

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>>89830764
If you give up before you start, then you've already failed, anon. Life is short and you've only got one chance at it, don't let your feelings hold you back from trying something.

>>89830776
I will.
I'm turning jealousy and despair into action.

>>89830788
The fact is he's dead, but he's powerful enough to not actually die when dead.

>>89830804
>If you give up before you start, then you've already failed, anon.

>posts Diogenes of Sinope

>>89830795
Except he is dead. Abbadon mentions it. Zoss forsaw his own death, which is why he didn't even put up a fight against Juggernaut. He knew thats where he was going to die, so he just let it happen. Zoss just decided not to abide by the rules of "if you die you go away"

>>89830827
Whats that got to do with anything? Diognes never gave up, he strived all his life to not give a shit and he held fast.

>>89830859
did he? Or did he just give up on achieving anything despite his huge intellect?

>>89830764
I've got a webcomic going. Nowhere as popular as this, but it's starting to attract a substantial following.

I'm starting to really sympathize with the artists and why they get jaded. All the retarded comments, all the fan caused drama, all the cringey shit, all the fucking memes, jesus.

It's not too bad in K6D threads but Endtown and Poppy threads are starting to give me PTSD.

>>89830881
So far KSBD threads have been pretty alright. I think we'll keep some quality but man, I don't want these topics to become shitpost fests.

>>89830872
Nah, cause he still achieved shitting on other people's philosophies and being the biggest baller of his age. You don't have teach big classes, tutor emperors or build fancy shit to achieve anything with your intellect.

>>89830810
Good, do what I can't do. Not because I have no confidence in my ability, but because I know I will burn out on trying to keep up a webcomic schedule and either cancel it, or let it die, which I don't want to do.

>>89823777
Check'd. This needs to happen.

>>89830893
There have been a few really shitty threads earlier but we seem to have moved past it.

>>89830894
Like it's hard to piss off Plato.

>>89823777
>>89830916
>Incubus: I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.

>>89830431
Pride is the worst and most dangerous sin because it allows you to justify all the other sins. You can't eat/sleep/fuck/kill in wanton excess without on some level thinking you're great enough to deserve it.

>>89830881
Do you think that sort of thing is lessened by straighter, that is more realistic and serious, content?
I don't know the other webcomics you mentioned, but it seems like a lot of them are tumblr-esque steven universe type deals (I know that's an unfair and gross generalisation, but I use it for shorthand).
Do you think hard boiled crime dramas or historic tales of war, for example, would dodge that bullet?

>>89830907
>I know I will burn out on trying to keep up a webcomic schedule

Why is it a standard thing that webcomics update weekly or triweekly or whatever?
I hate the punchline at the end of the page format of most webcomics, it interrupts the flow nearly as badly as having to wait days between pages.
I've long advocated for a scene by scene update, as opposed to page by page. Each scene is completed and uploaded. This leads to less frequent updates and longer gaps, but I think a smoother, less convoluted flow of story.
This format is probably harder to monetize, but fuck that, the reason I can't update weekly is because I have a job, I'm not doing this to get rich or sell t-shirts.

>>89830881
Gimme the link. I don't care just give it to me.

>>89830651
Someone please explain the goblet thing. I am too dumb.

>>89830976
>I don't know the other webcomics you mentioned, but it seems like a lot of them are tumblr-esque steven universe type deals (I know that's an unfair and gross generalisation, but I use it for shorthand).
>Do you think hard boiled crime dramas or historic tales of war, for example, would dodge that bullet?
Probably, since it's a different audience. Not that there wouldn't be a different kind of bullshit to go with that, but maybe less obnoxious.

>>89830976

>Why is it a standard thing that webcomics update weekly or triweekly or whatever?

If you dont force yourself to comit to a schedule, youll give up on whatever it is your trying to do, or just take fucking weeks/months to get anything done.

You also get better and faster at whatever you are doing, when you have to do it 1-3 times a week.

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>>89831005

>>89831047
What the FUCK?

>>89831005

He goes through goblets like crazy in the comic because he only uses them once, then throws them into the big pile.

And he just recently made a pact with Jagganoth, the fucking huge dude that hes afraid of. And lent some of his power to Allison, whos about to go on a god killing spree.

And now in the nedroid comic hes talking about how he only needs a 24 pack of goblets because he forsees his poor choices ending his life very soon.

DERP.

>>89830976
>Do you think that sort of thing is lessened by straighter, that is more realistic and serious, content?

No

>Do you think hard boiled crime dramas or historic tales of war, for example, would dodge that bullet?

No.

>Why is it a standard thing that webcomics update weekly or triweekly or whatever?

Readers don't like to wait.

>>89831000
No, now that I'm in this meta discussion, linking it will only cause me more grief. Trust me, i speak from experience.

Also it's not a comic for /co/. For other reasons as well.

>>89831116
>Also it's not a comic for /co/.
That can only be a good thing.

>>89831116
It's for /aco/?

>>89827544
>She saw too much of the true shape of the universe and it almost killed her.
CHIM when?

>>89831160
Absolutely not.

>>89827171
>Incubus, what are you dealing?
>Self-confidence
>Does it quell the roaring weakness inside of you
>Briefly
>[bad decisions]

>>89831116
Did you not read? I said I don't care. Let's see it.

>>89830976
>Do you think hard boiled crime dramas or historic tales of war, for example, would dodge that bullet?
For one thing those wouldn't get a fourth the size a fanbase

>>89830976
>I've long advocated for a scene by scene update
Unsounded does that as needed. Not all the time just when it's necessary.

>>89831116
Pussy.

>45 posters in thread
>maybe 100 lurking

You will see literally no fallout from posting your comic on /co/. People won't even remember you were here in a few hours, much less long-term. If it ever comes up, you can deny everything, and it's plausible because you're anonymous.

tl;dr stop being a bitch and post your comic.

>>89831175
Zoss has attained CHIM and is moving further beyond but he's the only one. Jadis fucked herself by trying a bad method.

>>89831116
>Also it's not a comic for /co/. For other reasons as well.
Is it gay? Don't worry, I like the gays. They'e all fine by me.

>>89831116
Oh. It's furry, isn't it?

>>89831249
When does Jadis start giving people super-cancer and building a giant brass machine god?

>>89822736
So what do you think he was going to say before he stood up?

>>89831316
Those dashes don't indicate that he's being interrupted they just that they're all part of the same sentence.

>>89830827
Diogenes is the father of cynicism and the grandfather of Stoicism, both philosophies which heavily emphasise the virtue of being able to use personal willpower to deal with bullshit.

I fail to see why it's not releve-

>>89830872
Oh, you just don't understand cynicism as a philosophy, okay then

>>89831205
>For one thing those wouldn't get a fourth the size a fanbase
Totally ok with this, personally. I only care about making westerns, capeshit, cyberpunk etc. and all realistic, no lolrandumb CN shit in any of them. I'd stick to regular paper comics but I'm not that good yet.

>>89831336
He says "She wields" twice. I think he's a wee afraid of getting stepped on if he says the wrong thing.

>>89831288
what, /co/ hates furry again? I can't keep up with you fags anymore.

>>89831353
>Oh, you just don't understand cynicism as a philosophy, okay then
Tell me why being a hobo is a good idea

>>89831314
Never because she's now a fishtank goddess

>>89831387
/co/ isn't one person

>>89831396
When does Jadis get planted so she can handle a bigger bioload?

>>89831387

Most of us still don't give a fuck.

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>>89822736

Embiggened

>>89831416
>Dude, I can see your dick

>>89831406
She's not actually in a fishtank, they literally encased her entirely in magic glass.

>>89831541
>She's not actually in a fishtank
WAIT WHAT

>>89829595
>>89830177
Imagine being an angel who guarded Throne and everything was peachy for thirty fucking kalpa, and then humans show up and screw everything within just a few thousand years.

2 Michael is the most sympathetic dude in the entire universe.

>>89830407
I do hope we'll get to see some other original demiurges at some point. Presumably in a flashback or something.

>>89826291
Word of god is that Solomon is the one demiurge that would feel ok taking on jaggs head on. He would probably still lose on account of the invulnerability but I believe in the smug.

>>89831632
>Imagine being an angel who guarded Throne and everything was peachy for thirty fucking kalpa, and then humans show up and screw everything within just a few thousand years.
I imagine it was like this, but with angels instead of dragons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9x_koRZ2bA

>>89826580
Smug

>>89830476
>>89830501
Lust is a sin outside of marriage. Thinking of fucking whoever is probly not great for marriage, marriage was very important for communities, that's why it was a thing.

>>89831992
Also because Catholics hate feeling good. It makes them feel awful.

>>89832058
Genealogy of morals. The masters are more natural in pursuing pleasure. Christianity is a reactionary slave morality, of course its anti pleasure.

>>89832315
t. Zoss or Nietzsche? Or Stirner?

>>89831632
Is that why Juggernaut Star is so pissed?

So this essentially confirms Incubus and Jagganoth as final bosses, right?

>>89833599
Final boss is Zoss. There cannot be two Kings in heaven.

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GENTLEMEN
VE SHALL HAVE VAR!

>>89833639
I don't really think Zoss will put up much of a fight. On account of him being dead and all.

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>>89833719
>I don't really think Zoss will put up much of a fight. On account of him being dead and all.

>>89832058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mVOw3A7t8

>>89831072
>taxing goblets

>>89833599

Really? I think the last few comics have been dedicated to showing that Incubus is a pussy who talks a big game but is riven by insecurity and actually easily intimidated when the real deal shows up.

>>89833939
I don't know about that, this implies that the two will only work together until the other five are out of the game, whereafter those two will duke it out. Incubus seems fairly confident that he'll be able to beat Jagganoth

>>89834175
Correction; fairly confident of Allison being able to beat Jagganoth. His intention is to manipulate her, so for the time being, he should be fairly devoted towards getting her to improve.

>>89833719
>implying Zoss wouldn't be stronger in death than in life
>implying Zoss isn't strong enough to defy death and other universal constants

>>89833639
But Zoss isn't king, he's stepped down from his throne and chosen an heir and is raising her up to be the new king.

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Delicious demiurges shenanigans

>>89833939
He's also ahead of the curve and unlike any other antagonist, he (and now Jagganoth) has figured out the nature of the game and is moving accordingly. Those are pretty much the hallmarks of the final villain right there.

>>89835502
I feel like Zoss's not-giving-a-shit-about-death is somewhat overstated. He's still around, kinda, but he doesn't actually do anything. He's just a force ghost for Allison to talk to when something dramatic is happening. I'm not convinced he has any power left to affect the world anymore.

>>89837337

I've mentioned this before, but I've had Incubus pegged as the main baddie since early on. It may be a silly reason, but the fact that when the demiruges were first shown, he was the most prominent, featured in the center of the panel, seems to indicate importance. Also, that one's apparently retconned by now with the redrawn first chapter, but his battle outfit looks strikingly similar to the original design for Juggs as he beheaded Zoss.

>>89826291
Solomon knows "the most dangerous martial art in the universe". He's been stated as being the best at fighting save Jagganoth and Jadis at her prime.

>>89831651
I'm hoping that Ki Rata has some Secret Forbidden Technique that can completely ignore Jaggs' gift of iron nails for weird spiritual bullshit reasons. That's why he's so smug. He had a secret weapon this whole time.

That, or he can design an inescapable trap for Jagganoth. He'll have it built by his superb loyal labor force of devils which Solomon David *must* have otherwise I'm dropping the comic.

>>89831992
>>89832058
I read somewhere that lust was initially just a counterpart to greed. Where greed was excessive desire for material things, lust was excessive desire for abstract things.

Catholics only hate feeling good and having ambition when it gets in the way of being worshipful.

>>89831353
I used to love Diogenes, but I now have a hard time not seeing him as a burnout who got all sour grapesy about success in conventional society. His idea of virtues is neat, but his quip about how rolling his barrel up and down the street is equivalent to soldiers and other people working at fortifications just feels bitter to me now.

I still like him as a contrarian, though. It's like he deliberately set out to mock and undermine others as a way of testing and refining them.

>>89837483
>Catholics only hate feeling good and having ambition when it gets in the way of being worshipful.
Which is all the time because they worship through suffering and guilt.

>>89832058
Lust isn't exactly a good thing even if you're areligious. Excessively acting on lust can lead to things like venereal disease, ruined relationships, and an empty wallet. The thing about the deadly sins that any of them done in excess can lead to quite a shitty situation for yourself.

>>89831632
I have a hard time finding most angels sympathetic because a lot of them seem to be assholes. The ones who are just trying to uphold the law and don't go crazy with it are cool though.

Do you guys think there's any particular meaning to the number 6 Billion, or did Zoss just pick a big number arbitrarily?

>>89830893
There was that one short period where K6BD threads were nothing but shitposts recently but I'm just glad that shit ended. Now we're back to funny edits and actual discussion.

>>89839249
(((Zoss)))

Requesting Solomon David as a smug Pepe.

>>89827112
Solomon probably believes he already HAS brought a golden age in his territory. He is that smug,

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So is Solomon going to be KSBDs Perfect Cell?

>super smug asshole that wont even fight you head on, but holds a tournament to see if you can even make it to the finals to be worthy of fighting him

>>89839249
Abbadon thought it sounded cool.

Also Zoss didn't pick the name, I think it's basically Allison's "true name"

>>89837483
>His idea of virtues is neat, but his quip about how rolling his barrel up and down the street is equivalent to soldiers and other people working at fortifications just feels bitter to me now.
It always struck me as him taking the piss.

>>89830588
y u a nazi anon

>>89840600
It's a joke about the terrible angel RP names in the comic's comment section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVYgK9EvHBo

You wanted power and you begged for fame
you wanted everything the easy way
You wanted gain - without pain
now your bill is in the mail
You got stronger but your mind got weak
you made a promise you couldn't keep
You had it all - you lost more
it's all there in the fee

anyone have that cropped image of Vigilent Gaze looking super pissy

>>89841146
Oh I never really minded the names. their terrible loreposting deserves an infinite beating though.

Mottom: Grass/Fairy
Mammon: Bug/Dragon
Jagganoth: Dark/Fire
Incubus: Dark/Psychic
Jadis: Psychic/Ghost
Gog-Agog: Bug
Solomon David: Fighting

>>89841756
So that`s why they allied: They`re Dark-type buddies.

>>89841756
Reasonable.

>>89841756
I'd say Jagg is Steel/Fire, not Dark.

Each of the demiurges seem to fit into a fantasy villain archetype.
Mottom is a witch, Mammon is a dragon, Gog-agog is basically an eldritch abomination, Incubus is a devil (soul buyer), and jagganoth is a a demon/ horde warmonger.
Jadis could represent the undead, she`s basically a lich.
And out of the 7, Solomon gives the biggest generic "evil emperor" vibe. Or maybe an evil kung fu master.

>>89837337
Zoss definitely still has power but he's done with the mortal world. He's flying through spacetime and figuring out how to reach true godhood so he doesn't care too much about what's going on in Throne, he just wants Allison to fulfill her part of his plan.

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>>89844143
>evil
We don't know much about him, but compared to the rest he looks okay for now.

>>89839249
Holdover from the original adventure where Allison was actually supposed to kill 6 billion demons.

>>89845805
REACH HEAVEN THROUGH VIOLENCE BABY

>>89826461

The interpretation I've had for a while is that the only thing he has ever been able to enjoy is battle, and that he *hates* that fact, because he knows how fundamentally broken as a person that makes him.

Juggernaut Star learned all there is to know about tea out of a fascination with the fragility of humans. I would wager that Jagganoth not only knows just as much about tea, but about any number of other refined, peaceful, creative pursuits--art, poetry, flower arrangement, etc.--because he knows the joy that brings to other people that follow that hobby. He's hoping that maybe *this* will be the thing that finally brings him peace. But every time he's left feeling hollow and empty inside.

From his point of view, he's an ugly monster, the universe is constantly reminding him that he's an ugly monster, and that he is entirely incapable of being anything *but* that ugly monster. Eventually, thanks in part to the angelic visit (but he probably would have reached this point on his own anyways) he just decides "well FUCK EVERYTHING, then" and sets out to destroy all of creation as revenge for it bringing forth a creature as terrible as himself. Take Allison's self-loathing times roughly infinity and you get Jagganoth.

>>89826461
>>89826726
>>89828263
>>89826580
>bloodthirsty warrior-poet with a fucked up psyche
Jagganoth reminds me of this dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxLFdJLSho8

>>89846510
Anon, I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Is it just me or is the comment section on the page not showing for anyone else?

>>89846510
It was said at some point by Abbadon that Jagganoth has done a fair amount of poetry.

>>89846510
I like this idea
It's reasonable, isn't out on too far of a limb

He genuinely seemed kinda depressed in that one picture.