Uh well then. Fathom is changing it up.

>>89798470
T O P I C A L

>>89798470
>goes after Milo AND Anita
madman

>>89798630
And PJW and The Young Turks

>>89798630
>Paul Joeseph Watson
>Young Turks
>Anita
>Chris Ray Gun
>Shoe on head
>Milo
>It's NOT super pro-SJW

This is going to be a hot topic this week

>>89798722
>a Top Cow comic is going to be a hot topic this week
oh it is to laugh

>>89798766
Chris/Shoe/Milo will not doubt mention it in some way, combined that's pretty respectable publicity.

>>89798787
I sincerely doubt it

>>89798814
Why?

>>89798722

Is that shoe? It doesn't look much like her compared to the others. I feel like it should be someone else. How much notoriety does she even have compared to the others?

>>89798662
>The Young Turks

A R M E N I A N G E N O C I D E

>>89798843
She's got 600k subs which is only about 100k less than Paul Watson and 3x as many as Chris Ray, so she's pretty much in their area of popularity

>>89798836
I don't know much about Chris and Shoe, but I doubt Milo cares about comics much at all, much less a self-published literally who comic

>>89798470
what book is this?

>>89798891
Well as someone who actually follows Milo I know he will mention it.
He's had conservative comic creators come on his podcast.

>>89798927
all two of them?

>>89798891
>Constantly talking about furry comics because they buy ad-space
>Had Chuck Dixon on for an episode

Oh he'll bring it up.

>>89798927
>>89798959
well I guess that shows what I know

but still

self-published literally who

>>89798981
It's a published (self or not) comic with MILO on it.
Do you know how hard he gets off this sorta shit?

>>89798886

Hmm. I still don't think it looks anything like her. The hair is different, her skin is brown when shoe is as white as the driven snow, and if I was going to parody shoe I'd probably do more with the eyeliner. All she's really got going for her is girl in front of her computer in her bedroom and there have to be 1000 other girls that do that. Although I guess they did make Cenk Obama so maybe I'm just being to critical.

So what DOES the chick they're talking about look like, anyways?

>>89799020
None of them are all that accurate, Paul looks nothing like the guy in that comic

HAHAAH! COMICS!

>>89799009

If Berkeley hadn't happened I might agree with you but Milo's swimming in celebrity right now at a national level. He might be getting too big for this.

>>89798470
>I'm [Bleep]ing Better Than You!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwpvzc8pAE

Subtle

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>>89799035
BEHOLD

>>89799081
He's high off his own farts. "People protest against what I have to say because they're scared of how funny and convincing I am" is his position right now.

>>89799106
That's goddamn modest. When they say "half-naked" I expect SOME form of nudity.

>>89799123
so like any other day, then

>>89799057

Paul has the stubble and the hair. Anita's face is all fucked up but the flannel makes it obvious. Anna looks okay but mainly it's the set that sells the Turks. I don't know Chris guy. so I can't really comment but for all the others Shoe is least shoeish. The others are kind of "If I squint i can see the resemblence" Shoe is a different person entirely. I'd be more inclined to believe it was Lacey Green or someone than shoe.

>>89799184
>Looks closer to Laci Green than Shoe
Literally blind.

>>89799123

Well he's not wrong. Milo is undeniably up his own ass and unquestionably narcissistic but all the protesters do is drive more people to listen to him and he's nothing if not entertaining.

>>89799123
Milo is a narcissist and a faggot but he's a narcissistic faggot with a point. The fact that people keep trying to shut him up with protests and violence shows he at least serves some purpose.

>>89798470
I thought this was Marvel for a second

>>89799123
>>89799184
>He's high off his own farts. "People protest against what I have to say because they're scared of how funny and convincing I am" is his position right now.
Wow tumblr really is a presence here. Just kidding. But seriously. No matter what you think of Milo (and I happen to think he's right about quite a few things, or at least errs on the right side of things) you cannot deny that Milo isn't just protested against. The issue is that protestor do not target his opinions but rather his right to speak them. For example if the goal of protestors at a Milo event was to debate and confront his supporters with opposing views fine with me that's good in a healthy democratic society. However the goals of Milo's detractors is to do just the opposite by no-platforming him, assaulting his attendees, threatening and harassing people at events, and straight up heckling and disrupting his talks. I don't see how anyone could pretend that his position is anything other than that of sheer terror at the fact that the left is willing to use political violence to shut down opponents. If this keeps don't think for a second that the right won't follow suit, and quite frankly they're actually good at it. If this keeps up "working for the clampdown" will become a viable occupation.

>>89800614
meant for
>>89799245
>>89800039

>>89800614
>The issue is that protestor do not target his opinions but rather his right to speak them.
That feels like a weird distinction since it's pretty clear they hate him BECAUSE of his opinions.

>>89800039
>Milo is a narcissist and a faggot but he's a narcissistic faggot with a point.
"i spout radical alt right bullshit but ALSO i'm gay so that validates them somehow"

>>89800677

His opponents aren't exactly doing themselves any favours with their tactics right now.

What made them think "fight like nazis" is a good way to "fight nazis"?

>>89798470
Is that chris raygun? what an obscure reference there

>>89798470
I want to FUCK comic Anita

>>89800708
Because liberal "respect everyone's opinion" is literally how the Nazis gained momentum in the first place?

>>89800641

Many of them don't really seem to know his opinions though. They mostly hate him by reputation. I hear a lot of people call him a Nazi when the guy is ethnically Jewish and avowedly pro-Israel. They call him a racist when he says on just about any occasion that he feels racism is pointless, wrongheaded and doesn't address real issues. I guess you can bash him on talking shit about feminism but he's said that he agrees with second wave but he thinks that the third wave is misguided and ignorant, so he does make a distinction. People hate Milo for what they think he believes and then use violence to prevent him from telling people what he actually believes.

>>89800708
>What made them think "fight like nazis" is a good way to "fight nazis"?
So fighting at all is "fighting like Nazis"?

>>89800722
This, I didn't think he was that well-known.

>>89800765

Using violence against nonviolent speakers is yes.

>>89800741
That was more about the European nations not wanting another war since the blood from WWI was still relatively fresh.

>>89799106
Absolutely problematic

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>>89798470
Holy shit, they fucking said it.

>>89800765

I mean "brownshirt" bullshit. Which is what Antifa's doing.

>>89800741

HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU. Your lot didn't do that. You no platformed every single person that didn't agree with you, and that greatly increased resentment towards you. That's what got us this mess.

>>89798470
>I'm better than you.

Love that jab. Who's the blonde in the glasses suppose to be?

>>89800835
Chris Ray Gun. They got his hair color completely wrong, he's not blond at all.

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>>89800835
Chris Ray gun, the chap next to the pornstar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmeSGwVBoao

>>89800741
>Because liberal "respect everyone's opinion" is literally how the Nazis gained momentum in the first place?
What kind of bullshit history are they fucking teaching in school now?

The Nazi's gained momentum and sympathy because the Weimar government kept trying to stamp them out violently while totally bungling their economy so they just had more and more pissed off unemployed people in the middle of the Great Depression.

>>89798722

It's not explicitly anti-SJW either though, it's just an all-around spoof of various internet talking heads.

Either way, it got my attention. Is Fathom worth reading? Certainly looks to be easy on the eyes. Also, what else does Top Cow have that's worth checking out? Doesn't have to be amazing, just looking for an easy, pleasant, fun read.

>>89800926

>the Weimar government kept trying to stamp them out violently

Close, but it was mostly opposing grassroots-level leftists who were using violence. Hitler's success came from the fact that the Weimar government didn't directly stamp them out. Had they tried to dismantle the SA early on, Hitler would have been in a much tougher spot.

Holy shit, is that Chris Ray Gun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdpRmrvim_E

OH BOY, GET THE B L E A C H

>>89800926
I think I know what the anon is trying to say, solely because of Bob Chipman's Twitter shilling the idea. Apparently some people want to shut down opposing opinions solely because "We didn't stop Hitler's hate speech, now look what happened".

>>89800997

I just saw someone saying that Moviebob is an boring SJW version of Nick Land and I can't think of a better description.

>>89798470
>"Is this the world we live in, now? Where half naked people can just swim up from the ocean floor and start a battle on a public beach?"
Wait, what happened? Did Namor started dicking around again?

>>89800997
Like, people didn't listen to Hitler because he was racist, they listened because they were unemployed and he promised them jobs.

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>>89800997
Yep, and thanks to the great efforts of many fighting tooth and nail to stop hate speech we live in a world where Trump is president, Britain is leaving the EU, the whole world becoming focused on identity politics and America is at a brink of a race war.

>>89801099

What a time to be alive!

>>89800791
Fucking hell, he's just a guy who talks and makes jokes about not being idubbbz. It's not like he's skeptic and has a million followers.

>>89800942
>Is Fathom worth reading
no
>what else does Top Cow have that's worth checking out
nothing

>>89801082

To be fair, the racism was also kind of a thing, like a lot of Germans were pretty mad at how somehow the Jews seemed to be getting by just fine in the economic death spiral. Also, Jews did push a lot of attempted Bolshevist revolutions that the average German was getting fed up with, and back then pretty much everyone in Western Europe hated slavs, like even more than they do now.

>>89801215

This is why I hate history. The more you peel back at it, the less black and white it becomes. IT doesn't excuse the atrocities of the Nazis, but it is FAR from a simple black and white explanation.

>>89801249
>the less black and white it becomes
yeah, it just becomes black

>>89798722
>This is going to show up in LOL threads on /v/ this week
Fixed.

>>89800895
This is a thing of flawless beauty.

>>89799106
Wait, is that supposed to be a wetsuit? Zip that shit up yo, your cleavage will fuck with your ability to swim. And you should never wear jewelry like that choker when diving, barracuda are pretty awful.

>>89801249

Basically it all comes down to this shitty idea called the "whig view of history" which is the theory that liberal progressive democracy is the natural ideal that all civilizations are moving towards, and that all of history is a slow, gradual evolution towards that ideal.

Because of this nonsensical, borderline-religious paradigm, we teach our history from a morality-based perspective. For example: Rather than a clash between two very different cultures over the nature of the United States, the Civil War is reduced to the slavery argument to justify the North's idea of a unilateral liberal hegemony. Rather than an ongoing struggle to defend the international status quo and keep a stable world order, WWII becomes about the struggle to stop Hitler from taking over the world and killing all the Jews (like we gave two shits about that while the war was going on).

You don't need to be a Nazi sympathizer to really see how the way we teach history is silly. You just have to not see everything through the perspective of morality.

>>89801249
The whole guilt over the Holocaust and why it's so intense in modern Germany even after 70 years is because it was deliberately pushed by the US and UK to ensure that the German spirit remained broken so as to not start another World War.

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>>89800741
As much of a liberal faggot as I am, I've always been big on supporting the idea that someone should always have the right to speak their mind no matter what they have to say or how hurtful it may be. We should have no right or grounds to interfere because we expect the same privilege. That's probably why I loved TNG's ethics episodes so much.

>>89801375
I think the morality point of view makes some sense though because history has many lessons to teach us. I do not think people force the "evil nazis" thing so much because of Hitler's expansion across Europe, but more than we should focus on the situations and factors that led to things escalating in such a manner to give context to our own lives and avoid repeating them.

Same when you hear about old anecdotes and fables that have some vague overarching moral. I agree with you that history should also be viewed with a wider lens so you can see the larger picture and realize the context behind the actions of various world powers or individuals, but morality should still have a part in it.

>>89801249

Why would you hate history for not being black and white? That's what makes it interesting. I find the fact that people were scrawling dirty jokes in the bathroom thousands of years ago oddly inspiring. People are people and they always have been. We're no more or less moral than anyone else was our society just has different realities due to our level of technology.

>>89801448
Politics is like a pendulum, it'll swing from left and right.

If you try to push it in one direction or stop it from swinging back it'll come back to the other side even harder.

>>89801375
>reduced to the slavery argument
every state that seceded as well as the Constitution of the Confederacy listed slavery as the primary reason for secession

>>89801393
That actually sounds kinda awesome.

>a country shits on you so hard that your national spirit is broken forever to prevent the creation of the next demon lord

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>>89801503
Different anon, but the argument isn't "slavery had no bearing" but this wasn't about slavery for slavery's sake.

The Southern states didn't want slaves JUST because they hated black people; the North was no less racist in many ways. The issue was that the South's agrarian economy was entirely built upon a foundation of slave labor, which they feared was going to be upended. Given the North's burgeoning industrial economy and a not-unfounded fear that this economic shift would leave the South forever disadvantaged economically and politically. If the North has all the people and the money, it's going to have all the power.

They wanted slaves, but we can't understand the factors that drove us to it if we can't at least try to understand the South's grievances. Painting them as cartoon bigots is unhelpful.

>>89801503
>"the tariff was only a pretext, and disunion and southern confederacy the real object. The next pretext will be the negro, or slavery question."
t. Andrew Jackson

>>89801503

Yes, and that Constitution was written by rich planters who lead the Confederate states. What about the men who actually fought in the trenches? Did they believe they were fighting for slavery?

For the people in charge of the war, the planters of the south and the abolitionists of the north, the war was about slavery. But none of the actual common people wanted to fight a war over slavery. That's why they sold the war to their people as something else which was just as valid. The planters told the poor white southerners that rural urbanite religious nutjobs from the north wanted to conquer them and impose their values and their way of life on them. The abolitionist republicans told the poor, urban whites of the North that the purpose of the war was explictly to prevent secession, and that America would always be one nation, no matter what.

Look at the NYC draft riots: the common man of the North could not give two shits about slavery and had no interest in dying horribly just because a bunch of religious elites had an obsessive interest in dismantling it.

Likewise, guess what happened when the southern soldiers figured out that they were just throwing their lives away so the planters could keep making metric ass-loads of money using the plantation system? They up and deserted en masse.

>>89801393
>>89801543
You also have to remember this isn't the first time.
Biggest reason why they ended up creating WW 2 was the massive debt and blame they had for WW 1.

The entire 20th century has basically been all the countries telling Germany he's an asshole, and the one time Germany says "fuck you I do what I want" six million people die and several countries get run over.

>>89800641
>That feels like a weird distinction since it's pretty clear they hate him BECAUSE of his opinions.
You don't honestly believe that here is no difference from me saying that I disagree with a communist, as opposed to me saying that people shouldn't be allowed to talk about being communist at all?!! Man I take it back, this really is /co/mblr.

>>89801688

Hilariously enough, Jackson's push for Manifest Destiny actually in part was intended to undermine the plantation system, by giving poor white southerners a chance to take their business west and thus slowly erode the planters's voting base that they needed for political power.

>>89801498

You misunderstood me. I don't mean "hate" as in "wanting to shut off all viewpoints that discomfort me", but it's more like "hate being reminded that I was right in that history is not good vs evil, but winners vs losers."

>>89801499

In a way, shouldn't superheroes be considered a bad thing by this mentality? Then again, it depends on what they do. "crush evil" vs "help the ones who need it the most".

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>>89801375

>not mentioning the lingering effects of WW1 that caused WW2

>>89801748

Why do people use that quote to justify random street fighting? Hitler was referring to the state and actual organized crackdowns, not random communist street goons. Hell, random communist street goons is what let him organize the SA. The direct result of the "punch a nazi" mentality is that the Nazis invariably form a paramilitary organization that is much, MUCH better at carrying out violence than the left could ever hope for.

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>>89801700
4th Reich soon.

>>89801737
>superheroes be considered a bad thing by this mentality?
Superheroes are fiction. They're meant for entertainment and fantasy, which is why almost all attempts at bringing in real world politics into comics comes off as incredibly retarded

A universe in which flying criminal punchers exists doesn't directly mesh or fit into real world situations.

>>89801700
So basically, it's America's fault.

>>89801823
>4th Reich soon.
It's called European Union, anon.

>>89801823
Also to add on, trying to fit in fictional superhero logic or just using fictional characters to justify stuff like 'punch a nazi' is goddamn retarded.

It's fiction, not reality.

>>89801838
More like Britain and France. The partitions they drew up for the Ottoman Empires is the reason why the middle east is such a clusterfuck it is today.

>>89801823
>>89801883

You know, some could make a satirical cartoon where a Dr Doofensmitz-esque villain defeats his archenemy by subjecting him to real world politics like it were Kryptonite.

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>>89801883
>More like Britain and France.
Most of the world fuck ups can just be traced back to Britain, can't they? Even America's fuck ups are, in a way, indirect result of Britain fucking up.

>>89800926
>>89800741
>>89800976
The grass roots leftists that started a revolution that resulted in 5,000 deaths, radical destabilization, and the strengthening of radical right wing movements? I know you're not supporting them but it's worth mentioning that anon's point remains the use of political violence by the left was the reason for the rise of the NDSAP and I doubt further extremism from the left will incur a different result.

>>89801953
Sun never sets, motherfucker.

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>>89801953

Read Unqualified Reservations, anon.

>>89801958
>>89801737

To add when I said I hate history is that the people who know the most about history are most of the time are NOT the ones influencing what's going on in the world. Hell, we don't matter. Antifa and Trump are going to do their own things and nothing we do can change their minds.

>>89801850
You know it's funny, if you look at a lot of the concept art of old EU promotional materials, there's a lot of swastikas.

>>89801484
No. Morality has no part in this kind of discussion. Simply because all morality does is add a faith based blinder to someone's lenses, preventing them from viewing the world in all its meaningless glory. As Nietzsche pointed out, morality is not obsolete, however, it needs a new axiom. As opposed to simply being good as Plato would have proposed, we must realize that it is good because it works. History should be taught as pragmatically as possible. At best one could demonstrate systems that don't work and why they don't work and furthermore point out why they are not ideal, and then point out a superior ideal based on collective pragmatism and not because something is good and just. I'm sure this sounds pedantic. Especially when many might still say that Republican-Democracy is still the best system of government that effectively serves the most people and as an individual it is the most beneficial to my person. However, that is an infinitely more honest, workable, and realistic premise than democracy is good in and of itself because people DESERVE representation in their government and that is just the fair way to do things. Such a bizarre and selfless assumption is much more destructive as it calls for the universal acceptance of a system and its supposed principle as being a part of some "good" as opposed to being a system created anthropologically to uphold some form of common interest based around what was most generally convenient.

>>89798871
Never happend. Muh 1.2 million

>>89801351
Have you watched some of the "/v/ the musical" videos?

Don't Shitpost I'm Scared is utter and total perfection

>>89801099
>the race war meme
This again?

>>89801718
>shouldn't be allowed to talk about being communist at all
They didn't want their school to be used as a platform for that speech. That's very different from being allowed to talk "at all".

>>89802011
The knights who fought in the Crusades were not actually very religiously motivated and were mostly shipped out there because they had nothing to do back in Britain and kept making a ruckus as a result.

>>89802213

This is also why the "you can't debate a nazi" line is bullshit: It's easy to convince Nazis that Nazism is a nihlist cult rooted in nonsensical romanticism. You just have to abandon your progressive self-righteousness and apprach the issue from an alternate system of morality. Pax Dickinson is really good at doing this, he converted me pretty much.

>>89801803
>Nazis invariably form a paramilitary organization that is much, MUCH better at carrying out violence than the left could ever hope for.
This is what the left doesn't understand. I don't see any communists fighting for the second amendment. I wonder if they ever will manage to kick the hornet's nest, I wonder how hard the right will come down. Fuck me, it's really annoying to think about.

>>89802271

Well look at America right now. Do you honestly think race relations are in any good shape at the moment. America's fucked and it's just any moment now, they'll have their own version of Malaysia's May 13th incident back in the 60s, where the Malays, Indians and Chinese were slaughtering each other.

>>89802268
Oh, wow.

You weren't kidding.

>>89800895
>>89800867
Isnt he actually a spic?

>>89802271
>Nothing to do in Britain
There was plenty of raping and fighting, anon. Don't be crazy.

>>89802298

I'm guessing they think it'll be a repeat of the 70's where armed leftist groups ran rampant and got away with it for the most part. The difference is that we've come a LONG way since then, and the state is going to be much less lenient against violent leftists, especially with Trump and Sessions.

>>89802268
>Don't Shitpost I'm Scared
That shit is amazing.

>>89802298
These fucking rioters are just so... unaware. Like they're so goddamn caught up in themselves and know like this cheap abridged version of history that they don't see how bad they're going to make things.

>>89802336
He's like half Puerto Rican or something.

>>89802271
>The knights who fought in the Crusades were not actually very religiously motivated and were mostly shipped out there because they had nothing to do back in Britain and kept making a ruckus as a result.
Yes, and I never implied that the Crusaders were anything but chavs and hooligans in fancy armor.
REMEMBER CONSTANTINOPLE.

>>89802295
>This is also why the "you can't debate a nazi" line is bullshit: It's easy to convince Nazis that Nazism is a nihlist cult rooted in nonsensical romanticism.
Oh sure it's easy, just explain it to them and they'll see.

It's not like they already got a bunch of talk from the people who convinced them to become Nazis that anyone who'll try to tell them that are just spiteful SJWs trying to be condescending, or mean parents who just want to hold you down, or whatever boogeyman those people use to motivate adolescents these days.

Like fuck man, that's why most people stay in most cults. You don't just talk them out of it, you have to hope they already have an open mind about leaving and somehow indirectly show them an alternative point of view is available which isn't nearly as easy as you're suggesting. After all I'm pretty sure Pax Dickinson didn't personally walk up to you and go, "Hey! Stop being a Nazi! Listen to my reasoned arguments!"

Also,

>Pax Dickinson
You know what, maybe I'm just too old.

>>89802306
>Well look at America right now. Do you honestly think race relations are in any good shape at the moment.
They're not perfect but it is absurd to compare them to how they were a few decades ago. Significantly fewer eviscerations of pregnant black women, for one.

>>89800867
I think they are trying to go with the "it's not technically them but it's obvious that it's totally them" kinda look.

>>89802342
I'd say that'd qualify as quite the ruckus. At least up north.

Knight rapes a few women and everyone shakes their heads going, "What a dreadful inconvenience."

>>89802378

It's more "hey, there are other right-wing ideologies that aren't utterly self-defeating and rooted in petty romanticism." Most Nazis are only Nazis because they don't really know the alternatives. Introduce them to different far-right ideas an almost invariably they'll change their stance. (Of course, this is dependant on their IQ. /pol/acks are generally a lot smarter and more capable of understanding complex ideas than skinheads.)

>>89802376
I think it's just weirdly reflective of the internet people who like to pretend to be highly religious online but really just want an excuse to shitpost or argue incessantly about identity politics or whatever.

>>89802475
>/pol/acks are generally a lot smarter and more capable of understanding complex ideas than skinheads
I'm not sure that's saying much.

>>89802486
Cuz it's funny.

Same reason why Kek and meme magic is a thing. If it isn't real then oh well, it's harmless. If it is, then holy shit /pol/ memed a god into existence.

>>89802517
I'm thinking it's a bit of both.

Joking around is one thing. Dedicating yourself to the joke, though, usually there's another element involved there.

>>89802503

Try getting a skinhead to read something by Hoppe or Moldbug. It's pretty much impossible.

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>>89801748
What did Marvel mean by this?

>>89798470
>guy with glasses yammering on about bleach
idubbbz?

>>89802271
>They didn't want their school to be used as a platform for that speech. That's very different from being allowed to talk "at all".
Except that is not their argument at all and they've made it very clear that they want all manner of right leaning thought expunged and that these "Nazis" must be absolutely censored and their "hate speech" treated as violence and made illegal.

>>89802295
I'm glad you agree with me. I am personally an existentialist and I don't see the value in our modern approach to history. We've had centuries worth of great thinkers and realists, generals and Princes (the Prince himself), who have outlined very consistent principles of societal interaction and realpolitik in which we can work from a framework that realistically considers the self-interested nature imbued within all human beings. Personally I believe that it is demonstrably true that when a civilization views advancement as a means towards the improvement of the self-interested populace, the civilization will see more stable and sustainable progress. In other words progress should not be viewed as taking a single path, and certainly should not be viewed as good for its own sake.

>>89798871
Ya mean when the Armenians genocided the Turkish army at Van?
The Turks kinda dropped the ball on the whole "genocide" thing.

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>>89798891
I'm sure he and Bendis would have a lot to talk about

>>89802541
>Try getting a skinhead to read something. It's pretty much impossible.
FTFY.
Skinheads are mostly braindead idiot thugs.
>inb4 antifa
Antifa is the same kind of ass that just shits in a different way.

>>89800942
The only thing I've read from Top Cow that I enjoyed was Postal, which is about an autist that lives in a town populated entirely by criminals. It was pretty cool.

>>89802641
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Van_(1915)
>55,000 civilians killed
u wot

>>89801838
Actually, no. America suffered much less than the European states during WWI, and mostly wanted Germany back on it's feet so they could become a strong trading partner again.

>>89802559
This cartoon is giving Antifa way too much credit. Most of their members are skinny betas who aren't anywhere near as fit as that guy.

>>89798470
be honest OP

you're just the guy who writes Fathom aren't you

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>>89798470

Author seems pretty based...

>In addition to being an author, Blake Northcott is a writer for "Fathom" at Aspen Comics, and co writer for "Agents of PACT" with ChapterHouse Comics. She was an editor at Millarworld, the comic book company responsible for 'Kick-Ass', 'Wanted', and 'Kingsman: The Secret Service'. She’s also a regular contributor at CBS Man Cave Daily, Comic Book Resources and Verily Magazine.

>Northcott’s ‘Arena Mode Saga’ is Kickstarter’s most-funded science-fiction series of all time, and the first book in the series was nominated for Britain’s prestigious BSFA (Best Novel of 2013). Because of their graphic novel influenced-style, the books have received praise and personal endorsements from some of the biggest names in the comic book industry, including Mark Millar (Marvel’s ‘Civil War’), Mark Waid (DC Comics ‘Kingdom Come’), and 2015 Hugo Award Nominee John Upchurch (Image Comics ‘Rat Queens’).

>>89802879
>She
Dropped before I even picked it.

>>89802879
>shilling yourself
>on /co/ of all places
I feel like this is a new low but it probably isn't

>>89802895
Why does /co/ and /tv/ have such shitty grip? Pay /fit/ a visit.

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>>89800942
It's in the same universe as Tomb Raider apparently, Aspen is a marine biologist who met Lara on an expedition once.

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>>89801953

>>89802939
Porn when?

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>>89802879

>>89802879
Blake is a boys name though

>>89803466
The cheek of it...

>>89801953
Mongols ended the Islamic golden age. A sultan killed the envoys Genghis sent him and so:

>Genghis Khan's revenge was considered brutal, even by Mongol standards. His campaign resulted in the complete annihilation of Khwarezm cities, destruction of countless historical artifacts and records, and arguably the bloodiest massacre the world saw until the 20th century.

The middle east never recovered completely.

>>89802797
>armed turks outnumbering armed armenians
>massacres 55,000 civilian armenians
>still loses
HOW?

>>89803696
That's what they get for shooting the messenger.

>>89803696
Genghis Khan didn't just fuck them
He fucked them so hard it broke them utterly

He diverted a fucking river just to destroy the home place of one of the guys who pissed him off

Never, ever touch one of GK's diplomats.

>sultan
It was just the governor of a city IIRC. The actual leaders wanted peace with the Khanate. The governor ruined it for everyone forever.

>>89803420
Cue the Mongoltage

>>89803696
>decimate the Middle East
>something like a 1/4 of all mainland Asians are descendants of his
>Based fucking Genghis Khan

>>89798470
>>Maybe a snowsuit with one of those fuzzy hoods
That's also a parka.

>>89803832
Genghis Khan best Khan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bvPzvFlP8

>>89798470
I want to put my penis in not-anita sarkesian.

What's even happening in Fathom these days?
I stopped following it after Michael Turner passed away ;_;

>>89798470
>I'm fucking better than you!

The truly funny thing is she's actually said that

fuck The Young Genocide Deniers

>>89802939
It's also in the same universe as Witchblade, right?
Any word on being a shared world with Spawn or was the medieval thing just its own thing?

>>89803937
Okay, I am not up to speed in e-celebs so I am gonna ask: who the fuck are the Young Turks? Are they real roaches?

>>89803975
They are except for the token Armenian, and yes they really do think that naming themselves after the group that necesitated the coining of the term "genocide" is a good idea

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>>89804025
Voivod Dracula didn't die for this.

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>>89798470
MAYNE STREEM METEOR!?

>>89802879
How can there be an award named after a wife beater?

>>89803975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oii1v2rUHJA
muh dick

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>>89801883
>The partitions they drew up for the Ottoman Empires is the reason why the middle east is such a clusterfuck it is today.
Well that's real cute, but it's wrong. The Brits didn't add anything that wasn't already created by the Ottomans.

>>89800895
>MARK MARK MARK and Carl the Cuck in one video.

Fucking aces

>people here actually like Chris Ray Gun
Good

>>89799106
>half naked
A one piece shows more skin.

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>>89802879
>Millar & Waid Shill for Her
I'll take another x-gate with fries please.

But seriously this is nothing to feel good about and she knows it.

>>89804913
strange times indeed

>>89804342
>The Brits didn't add anything that wasn't already created by the Ottomans.

Except for that big; mostly Sunni, chunk in the southwest to the mostly Shiite and Kurdish province.

>>89798662
>>89798722

who's paul joeseph watson?

>>89809559
Some British toolbag who makes angry political videos in which he usually rants about the lies put forth by DA MANE STREEM MEDIER

>>89803466

Merely a coincidence, everyone.

>>89802517
And you don't consider that kind of thinking to be WHY people don't want to debate Nazis? There's no fucking point because it's just a joke to them and a reason to hurt people.

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Nice to see the artists sticking with that 90s Michael Turner's cheesecake style at least.

>>89800895

fucking amazing

>>89801543

"awesome" just like how the shitting on Germany after WW1 led to WW2

>>89804179
He really should reevaluate how his videos are presented, look at how calm Stefan Molyneux makes his videos compared to yelling "MAN STREAM METEOR"

>>89802271
>They didn't want their school to be used as a platform for that speech. That's very different from being allowed to talk "at all".

Doesn't matter its not up to them.

And yes, it is the same as 'not being allowed to talk at all' because they literally rioted and fired missiles at buildings because someone was saying something vaguely near them.

>>89801953
>Never invaded America

What, the War of 1812 doesn't count or some shit?

>>89803832
>>89803867


[mongols externally]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c

>>89802306
>Well look at America right now. Do you honestly think race relations are in any good shape at the moment.
They've been better, I'll grant. But our countries survived just fine back when they were a hell of a lot worse.

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>>89798470
I never expected to see ChrisRayGun or Sho0e in a comic. Who's next, Styx?

>>89813494
>Doesn't matter its not up to them.
As opposed to protesting when it IS up to them? Don't be retarded.

>And yes, it is the same as 'not being allowed to talk at all'
Not it's not.

>>89813897
They were literally protesting his right to speak in public anon, don't be retarded.

They have absolutely no right to stop him, and neither should they.

>>89802879
>>89803466
haha nice.

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This thread

>Literal tremendous faggot goes to campus to talk about the importance of freedom of speech (and also to make people butthurt) after being invited by the school's Republican student group (who paid extra for security).
>Other students put a protest together to shut him down.
>Turns violent when Antifa gets going.
>Milo forced to leave without speaking.
>Instead of speaking to a crowd of like 100 students, he got to speak to an audience of millions on prime time Fox News.

I think something went wrong somewhere.

The prevailing sentiment seems to be that Milo would be easily blown the fuck out by any talented debator, so why is it that these schools don't produce one and make such a mockery of the guy that people are embarrassed to listen to him?

>>89803942
Witchblade does not share a continuity with spawn

I think

You see Witchblade and the darkness had these crossovers with Batman, Superman, Avengers, Justice League and so on that where somehow canon to the Witchblade and darkness but almost never mentioned after said crossover. For example there was this one story where Witchblade and the darkness had a crossover with Hulk, Dr Strange and Ghostrider. It ended with the beginning for a big arc in both comics but the crosover itself was never mentioned.

>>89801641
>>89801692

This is true though. While the Civil War WAS about slavery, it was about the institution of slavery, and the institution of agriculture, and how both in the long run wound up crippling the South. Racism was only a tool to help that come about faster.

>>89814115
Because he'd whine that his message wouldn't be getting transmitted properly, and cue shitstorm.

Milo's strategy is:

>be literal raving faggot
>bait violent groups to riot
>rake in money from altright babies too young to realize how much of a mess Milo is

If nazis win whether you stop them from talking or let them talk, then at least you can take a few off them down before they inevitably win because their victory is preordained by the universe.

Debating them doesn't work because appealing to the bottom 50 % of subhumans is a lot easier than getting intelligent people to stick together.

>>89814115
Because its not the schools (as in the organisation, I'm sure some of the staff are dipshits as well) that are the problem. Its Antifa and pals.

Milo is also a dipshit, but he's found a niche where he can make himself look big and intelligent by provoking even bigger dipshits to act stupidly so every reasonable person has to side with him by default.

The banning him from Twitter for breaking the terms and conditions was legitimate. Retromanding him for singling out and publicly bullying a student unprovoked would be legitimate.

Rioting in the streets for him for speaking at a university event however is completely illegitame. And hilariously counter productive.

>>89814302
Let him whine. In fact is that not anon's point.

And if he debates the babies will watch it and might see. Don't and they'll just watch him by himself.

>>89814115
>The prevailing sentiment seems to be that Milo would be easily blown the fuck out by any talented debator

He would not because people are unintelligent and he knows how to appeal to the lowest and most subhuman traits in people, like their biases, prejudices, need for weak scapegoats and inability to think in abstract.

Do you know how many Trump voters think The Bowling Green Massacre is a thing all of a sudden? They are animals. People like you and me can't help them or work our way into their brains. Vermin like Milo can.

>>89814572
>Do you know how many Trump voters think The Bowling Green Massacre is a thing all of a sudden
Do we want to know how many people thinks that?

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>>89814302
Cool stuff, tell me more

>>89814547
>And if he debates the babies will watch it and might see. Don't and they'll just watch him by himself.

It's pretty irrelevant whether Milo debates or not because at least one of his points is "I don't want Muslim immigration because Muslims factually want to kill gays and Jews and as a gay Jew I'd be pretty fucked in a Muslim country". Which is pretty much a non-debatable point.

>>89814547
>The banning him from Twitter for breaking the terms and conditions was legitimate.
Making fun of people isn't harassment though.

>>89814572
>>89814610
It's unnerving when you can't figure out of the political shitposting thread is actually just political shitposting or people are actually this retarded.

>>89814115
He literally says he's a "career Provacateur" which means he just tries to piss people off so they give him exposure. And they always take the bait.

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>>89798470
Milo's the only reference I get and I've only known about him for a month or after some Youtube philosopher namedropped him.
It's nonetheless apprecaited. Topkek.
>>89800677
I actually watched some of his sitdown interviews before kneejerking. He does have one.
Granted he's more about the implosion of the system that the movement symbolically represents and /pol/ hates the fuck out of him for making their stance look soft (on top of the predictable reasons). It's quite public that he'd rather fuck blacks literally than figuratively.

>>89814433

>We superior people cant help it if these mobs of unenlightened lumpen go against our ways but we must fight them to mantain our eternal supremacy as the universe itself knows we're righteous

Thats a very nazi thing to say

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>>89814302

That isn't my point at all though. Which of these two seems like the better approach?

>Milo complains that campuses have a problem with stifling free speech.
>Gets run out by violent rioters.
>Audience grows because people now think he has a point.

or

>Milo complains that campuses have a problem with stifling free speech.
>Gets blown the fuck out when students and/or faculty exercise their free speech to weaken or disprove his arguments using reasoning and facts.
>Milo is reduced to a whiny mess.
>Audience does not grow, and perhaps even shrinks as people think less of him.

>>89801375
>which is the theory that liberal progressive democracy is the natural ideal that all civilizations are moving towards, and that all of history is a slow, gradual evolution towards that ideal.
Isn't that Marxism?

>>89803832
>>89813629
>>89803867
>>89803696
>/co/
>not having pleb taste in mongol music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8

Also that was the Shah of Khwarazm. While the Mongols did royally fuck the middle east the thing you have to remember is that Central Asia is a backwater of endless steppe today. That was the real region Genghis depopulated, which was the site of the Khwarezmian Empire, a Persian dynasty in the eastern territories of the old Sassanid Empire.

Later on the Mongols of course did storm into the Mideast proper. The last Caliph of the Abbasid dynasty was trampled to death by the Mongol horde while they piled mountains of skulls of the slaughtered inhabitants of Baghdad- once the greatest city in the Middle East and possibly the world. The river Tigris first ran black as the Mongols tossed the thousands of priceless works contained in the city libraries into the current, then ran red with the blood of hundreds of thousands of murdered civilians.

From that point onwards Iraq ceased to be the heart of the Middle East as power moved northwards to mountain cities like Tabriz, westwards to the realms of the Mamluks and Rum Turks and eastwards towards the city of Samarkand.

>>89815149
>disprove his arguments using reasoning and facts.
Who the hell does that these days?

>>89815149
>Audience grows because people now think he has a point.

But if his freedom of speech got silenced he literally has a point, whether you like him or not.

You cant disagree with reality until it bends over to what you think, you have to accept he was right on this one. The fictional version you presented wouldn't even take place because Milo wouldn't have chosen this battleground for that exact reason.

>>89815167
Socialist theory builds on liberal theory. There's a reason why most Socialists and even marxist socialists envisioned a democratic society as the final form of socialism after wealth had been distributed equally through society.

>>89815281

Then why are Marxists so anti-liberal? I used to think Marxism was an extension of liberalism but any more the two seem completely incompatible. Collectivism is antithetical to individuality and individual rights.

>>89815375

Because liberalism is essentially mechanicist, it inherently leads to an equal distribution of rights and powers, that is, freedoms, for each individual, whereas marxism is organicist and does not envision rights and powers being capable of separation into multiple parts, the people must always be a whole.

>>89801803
Because people are stupid. News at 11.

>>89798959
>>Constantly talking about furry comics because they buy ad-space
Madman.
Context pls? Pics, even?

>>89800741
>"respect everyone's opinion"
I dropped History ASAP. Please elaborate on this in For Dummies terms. Given certain actions I'm a lil skeptical.

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>>89814115
If the axis were flipped /pol/ would be insisting it's a conspiracy set up by opposition plants.

Point remains. Milo dangled bait, and Antifa and pals took it like the suckers they are.

At this point, if Nazism DOES rise, then I have no sympathy for America, especially their opposition because they willingly shot themselves in the foot.

>>89816421

People have been doing exactly that.

>>89816934

It does really seem like there's a lot of crying wolf these days.

>>89817165
heh

>>89800614
My whole thing with Milo is that I hate him. Not because he is right wing, but because he is a goddamn troll. Not the good kind too. Not the one where it's so obvious that they are being an ironic shitposter that it's a bit fun.

No, he just aggravates people, claiming he isn't racist because he like Big Black Men and is the most 'dangerous faggot'. This is after he insults various religions that aren't Christian and then acts surprised when they get angry. He's basically like Alex Jones and the rest of those dumbass Right Wingers.

That being said, I think he should speak and not be silenced. I think he should be heard by all and then afterwards let people draw their own conclusions.

>>89817740

i will NOT have you badmouth Alex Jones, the anime protag of our reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF_6fYlfVo0

>>89817740

Not defending him, but when his targets are the kind of people who target Christianity only and give all the other religions a free pass, and also subscribes to the kind of braindead theory where dismantling one race's agency is the only way to have world peace, what did you expect was going to happen? He's an obnoxious troll who targets other obnoxious assholes.

At least Richard Dawkins hates all religion.

>>89817740
>Alex Jones
>Dumb Ass Right Winger
Come now anon. Alex Jones isn't some dumbass right winger.
He's a goddamn LUNATIC right winger. Milo's a dumbass smarmy prick. Alex Jones is like a walking A-Bomb of anti-globalist rhetoric. He's like an Republican Elemental. It's amazing.
For christ sake, the last time Infowars got invited to a White House Press Conference they asked if Sandy Hook was a false flag operation.

>>89814572
haha you're everything thats wrong with the human race

>>89798470
So I recognized, Paul Joseph Watson, the young Turks, Milo, and Anita. Who is the blonde guy and the chick? Also what comic is this from?

>>89798722
>Chris Ray Gun
>Shoe on head
Thank you, anon.
Do you happen to know what comic this is from?

>>89798470
>Shoeonhead
needs the wage gap button

>>89821332
Fathom from Top Cow.

>>89809559
Right wing YouTube show host. Pretty cute and funny. He also browses /pol/ and introduces it to normies. I personally prefer Stefan Molyneux, but Paul is better choice to show to friends and family.

>>89818386
>Alex Jones
>republican

choose one you vampire pedophile globalist

>>89798843
Should have used Steven Crowder, instead. He was on C-span last week. Ben Shapiro could have also worked.

>>89821769
The writer is a fan of shoe though, she had to give a shout-out to her girl.

>>89821393
Thanks!

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>>89798843
it's literally her backdrop just mirrored