Legion

>>89781024
I liked it a lot. Other than the lastest film I have always been a fan of Fox's X franchise.

The flashing red seens were perhaps a bit much and the story meandered but over all it was great. By the end of the episode I definately wanted to know more about things.

>>89781024
Absolute rubbish.

it's a 10/10 faggots

Its a lot smarter than the other super shows on tv. Hell its smarter than even the netflix shows ide say

>>89781024
hey that guy in the OP pic, bottom middle person, he was on The Mighty Boosh wasnt he

>>89782298
Pretty sure he's the midget from that dragon show.

>>89782515
no that aint dinklage, he was already Trask in the fox-men movies, besides you can tell hes all normal in that pic bc of his head size v body size

Excellent stuff, only /co/ntrarians like >>89781915 (You) dislike it

>>89781024
where can i watch this?

>>89782033
thats why it will get canceled

>>89781024
KINO

I greatly enjoyed it. I hope the future episodes focus a little more on David. I enjoyed his perspective and interactions. I'm not too fond of the "it's a government agency trying to control things" idea but we'll see. Maybe they'll do something interesting later on.

>>89781024
Really good episode. But I'm curious if they'll manage to go though a season without the aesthetics of the show growing tiresome.

And should I read any particular comic before watching this?

>>89790722
>And should I read any particular comic before watching this?
No, not really. The show has already diverged from the comics pretty hard (unless there's a big reveal) so I don't think you need any hard background.

>>89790722
If you haven't read Si Spurrier's X-Men Legacy then read Si Spurrier's X-Men Legacy. Not because the show necessitates a knowledge of that particular comic, but because it's just a damn good comic that everyone should give a look.

Plus the cover art is pretty boss.

>>89790890
>>89781024
I can't believe I'm only just hearing about this. Is Spurrier's X-Men Legacy the run with Ruth, Blindfold? I really enjoyed that.

>>89790890
I just love most of Spurrier's work. I wish we could get him as the line writer for the X-Men. Better than Bunn and Guggenheim.

so...so far there is
>not-rogue
>Not-magneto
>not-psylocke

who's the black guy?

Comic recommendations for legion?

>>89782298
he's the flight of the concords guy

>>89791223
Spurrier's X-Men Legacy run.

>>89791318
yeah, I saw from previous anons. Anymore though?

>>89791261
OH SHIT yes ok it is!

>>89791318
Any chance there's a download/mega link for it?

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Pretty gud

who was the fat guy that shows up when david was unstable?

>>89791633
Xavier

>>89791420
Hey that's Zod's buddy from MoS.

>>89790969
>Implying they're not all the same person.

>>89791633
3 major theories at the moment are

Just another part of David's mind

Mojo

Shadow King

>>89791356
It was storytimed a month ago or so.
I don't know if OP included a DL link tho.

>>89792471
It has feet, it's not Mojo

also someone said something about yellow eyes... did the fat guy have yellow eyes? i didnt look close enough.

>>89793317
Yeah he had yellow eyes.

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Look at the mirror, bottom-left corner
Someone found this in the last thread.

>>89792831
Different universe fampai, it'd hardly be the most bullshit thing Fox has done with X-men

>>89791633
\uhhh shadow king

>>89790969
Anyone else here think that they're all part of him and the only person who escaped was him, himself and that even the girl he loves is fake as well?

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>>89781024
>what did /co/ think of Legion ?
https://de.reddit.com/r/television/comments/5t0bwk/aubrey_plaza_says_legion_is_just_going_to_get/

>>89781024
It's the same empty, flashy, playing at having depth shit as Fargo. But people aren't capable of thinking for themselves anymore so who cares.

>>89791668
>>89792471
I kept thinking about the yellow Xavier in David's mind from that chunk of Spurrier's Run. Maybe they'll change it from Xavier being his father but some other villain like shadow king is father?

>>89794391

It's not playing at having depth. It's not layered. It's VERY transparent. Just because you think its pretentious doesn't mean its playing at it from an angle. You can't even accurately describe it and you say

>But people aren't capable of thinking for themselves anymore so who cares.

you can't even think...... let alone for yourself.

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So is it just a coincidence or what?

just watched it (in my country subtitled)

pretty good. never watched a "superhero" tv show before unless you mean 60s batman.

new mutants Legion were some of claremonts best stories.

>>89791223
New Mutants Classic Vol 2-3 should cover Legion's introductory stuff, which should be viewed cause the art is fuckin dynamite

Eh, it's ok, I guess.

What really grinds my gears is that I keep seeing reviews like "so smart, such departure from superhero".

Did I watch the same thing? Aside from very obviously doing it's own thing, it doesn't hold a candle to the crazier visuals that Bill Sienkewicz has provided, and it should be obvious because I don't think his shit can be adapted faithfully on screen. But let's even forget about that, let's look at the last five minutes of the show with that fucking TEAM OF MUTANTS IS FIGHTING THEIR WAY OUT OF SOME MILITARY FACILITY.

It's as generically capeshit end as you can get.

>>89795821

The gag works two-fold, implying as one of many sight-gags that David's reality is biased and both him and Syd might be reflections of people he met in the mental hospital.

And that Lenny is a clingy weirdo looking for anyone to tolerate her, even the incorrect doppelgangers of her actual "friends."

It was bad, just kooky aesthetics wrapped around a boring plot. "Is this all just in the main character's head?" is the question that every moron asks about a film or tv show when they want to sound clever, it's way too cliche to build a plot around at this point.

I enjoyed. Will see where it goes. I hope it keeps us guessing to some degree.

>>89794218
And people are trying to claim that Riverdale is the Twin Peaks Comic Book Show of the season.

/r/ webm of Aubrey Plaza on the tricycle

>marvel show
lmao no

>>89798306
You probably one of those people who think Netflix does fucking anything in production of Netflix shows, aside from distribution.

Jeph Loeb and Joe Quesada are executive producers and it has Marvel logo. It's a show based on Marvel comics. It's a Marvel show, it has Marvel all over it.

>>89798084
>"Is this all just in the main character's head?"
>way too cliche to build a plot around at this point.

The big breakaway from the episode seemed to specifically be David realizing that not everything was in his head.

I know there's room to double-back, but the showrunner seems smart enough to make the theme about David's illusions being removed.

>>89789684

to be fair, on FX the viewership numbers don't matter too much (to the network), not sure how Fox/Marvel will feel about it though.

They weren't playing up the X-Men connection as much as they could in the ads.

and considering how critically acclaimed FX's other programs recently have been (Fargo, Atlanta, Taboo, Always Sunny), as long as this is generally enjoyed, it should be good for as long as tehy want to run it.

>>89798433
It doesn't matter what the eventual resolution is, it's still gonna walk the line for 7 and a half episodes probably.

>>89791223

his origin (New Mutants 25 is his first appearance)
Zeb Wells New Mutants
Mike Carey's X-Men Legacy (specifically the AGE OF X storyline)
Si Spurrier's X-Men Legacy

>>89798510

The more obvious twists are gonna be David realizing he barely knows anything about Syd as a person.

Syd's power seems to be the mind-body-switcheroo. Not sure who has the explosive abilities in the pool, or who put Syd in David's memory so they could talk.

Her friends have "ulterior motives" practically plastered on their foreheads.

There seems to be a twist with Lenny set up as more than a figment in David's mind.

And the demon with yellow eyes is another third party mucking with David.

>>89798717
Girl with pyrokinesis was one of the first identities featured in New Mutants.

So, it's obviously David who fried them.

>>89786245
looks like episode 1 is free on itunes right now

While watching this I had forgotten legion was able to time travel

>>89798776
>So, it's obviously David who fried them.

Syd seems to have the bodyswap power, the telekinesis guy was doing stuff in the rescue, I can't see why the black guy or the dark haired girl he was paired with might not also have a power.

I get that everyone else is reading that the show takes place entirely in David's head but at least a few of these other characters have to be real or there's no narrative tension.

>>89798924
The black guy and the other girl seem really out of place during the rescue.

>>89798978

I just checked the internet and it seems the black guy, Ptonomy, has the mutant power to affect memories. So he's the inception guy who put Syd in David's memory which is why he used a gun during David's rescue.

First episode was fine, but then I watched the promo for the next episode and I'll probably lose interest.

I do not understand why people have such a hard on for large cast ensemble shows, I watch Arrow for Oliver, not Oliver and his 15 sidekick buddies, Flash for Flash, not Flash and the other 8 Flashes. So I don't wanna watch a show called Legion that is gonna involve several other fucking mutants and some discount x-men.

Stop naming shows after people and then devoting 55% of the show to supporting characters...

>>89798306
You should watch Powerless, it's probably more your speed.

>>89798717
Jemaine Clement is in an upcoming episode as Mrs. Bird's husband, who was stuck on the astral plane for a few years

Take that however you will but he might be who threw Syd in there if she isn't...well...you know.

>>89799484
The fuck are you on about? The show has predominately focused on David thus far and that doesn't look like it's going to be changing anytime soon. The supporting cast look nothing more than just that: supporting cast.

>>89790969
not-Emma Frost
the colored guy with the gun could be not-forge or not-cable for what its worth. Im gonna go with >>89794246 comment, I mean what is the point of changing the names but clearly make them use specific X-men powers. I could go with them being knockoffs because of the coming X-men tv series, but with the current plot, it seems there is more than the obvious going on.

>>89781024
I liked it but was a bit disappointed in the complete lack of connection to the comic

>>89782033
You're saying like any of that is an accomplishment in any way.

>>89781024
Fucking weird

>>89782033
What's smart about it? Nothing has even happened yet.

I like the show but people need to stop acting like it's some high brow work of art just because it has some trippy scenes in it.

>>89794246

I think it's pretty obvious we're going to get some kind of "No David, you are the demons" twist with some of the supporting characters. Lenny sticking around is just there to be a red herring for people to think she's the only one.

>>89799484
>I do not understand why people have such a hard on for large cast ensemble shows

Because at certain point the main character can't really grow anymore and becomes boring when he's the same, you need supporting characters to spice the show up and add alternative subplots to pace the episode and have shit happen.

This show is like obviously playing up the mental illness but I kind of enjoy it; I don't think that there has been a good live action portrayal of an omega mutant yet. Like - the scope of the power is just too nuts for a popular audience so going through the multiple personality disorder angel seems pretty clever.

>>89802627
It has great cinematography and general production value, but it's still capeshit at the end of the day.

>>89782033
>incomprehensible
>quirky
>well-shot

= smart

how are you not a certified rotten tomatoes critic already

>>89803090
He didn't say it's smart, just smarter than the rest of the cape garbage on television.

>>89790722
>And should I read any particular comic before watching this?

Read the comics after watching the show, will let you enjoy the show a lot better with knowing little about it

>>89791420

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wfYIMyS_dI

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>>89781024
Fox is allowed to create X-men related TV shows!?

>>89795821

I want to fug not-syd

>>89798877

That kinda explains the weird retro aesthetics and sometimes modern tech showing up

>>89802627

Its high brow work for capeshit

>>89804436

They collaborated it with Marvel, if things go well there may be more collaborations in the future even in the movies

Just watched it. Big fan of the character, so was cautiously optimistic.

Really enjoyed most of it, awesome kitschy style and music, felt like 12 Monkeys.

Last few minutes were awful though, what the fuck happened there? Suddenly surrounded by shitty acting and terrible CGI?

>>89804479
>even in the movies

I highly doubt that considering neither Marvel or Fox's shows want to acknowledge the movie universe exists.

>>89804996

I am not talking about now. Just a couple of years ago it seemed impossible that Fox & Marvel could collaborate on anything.

But this show proves that even they see opportunity in partnering for projects like this. If there is $$$ can be made by further collaborations then they will surely take their collaboration on further levels.

Initially the show was planned to be set in the X men universe which means they are willing to go there. Heck I wouldnt be surprised if they did a 180 and connect the show to The X men movies in the near future like they did with X men First class & original trilogy

>generic haircut
DROPPED

Did anyone else feel like the score was at times very similar to Stranger things

>>89805128
I mean

how would you even do Legion's haircut in real life
His hair is like a superpower on its own

>>89781024
The cinematography is better than most movies, really. Dana Gonzales deserves muh big cummies

>>89797936
>Bill Sienkewicz

Why are you comparing a comic artist's visuals to a TV cinematographer's visuals like you'd expect them to be one and the same?

Also, the ending was ridiculously over the top because that was the point, but I guess that won't stop people from pulling a "not muh" contrarian act

>>89805483
Should have gone with undercut but I think teh show may not be based on present era

>>89805483
>how would you even do Legion's haircut in real life

Long hair and an obscene amount of hairgel. Also probably some eggs, I remember that guys with Liberty Spikes tend to use eggs.

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>>89805128
Yeah, they clearly cast the wrong guy

>>89806494

they can style his hair lie that later on

>>89795545
So you're argument is that it is extremely transparent but has depth. And that all of the very apparent layers of the story don't exist.

>>89805637
I just expressed that I prefer Bill Sienkewicz's visuals much more and I in fact pointed out that his shit can't be faithfully adapted, but it doesn't mean that I just simply can't prefer how David's origin looked as drawn by Sienkewicz.

Let's be honest, you even green texted mention of Bill because you think I am being pretentious by comparing this show to the source material. I can see your point of view, but don't be pretentious by being hipster to hipsters such as myself :^).

Also, I literally don't get what you mean by "ending was ridiculously over the top because that was the point", well then, explain this point to me since I am so dimwitted, since you obviously got the objective point that director put in this ending that everyone should be able to understand.

>>89802566
It's smart because it's marketed that way. Just slap a coat of "prestige television" on to anything and people will fall all over themselves to analyze it while glomming onto the praise. Same exact thing happened with Hawley's other show Fargo.

>>89805128
It's coming, the creator said it'll come.

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>I didn't understand it
>it's a slow burn, it gets better 247 episodes in
>that's why I enjoyed it, it's for intellectuals like me
You can't possibly like it because it was completely incoherent and made no sense. Seth Myers as Legion was a terrible cast and the only worthwhile character was Aubrey Plaza. Every other character was complete, irredeemable garbage.

I saw you marketing shills post the same comments on /co/ and /tv/ as you did on Kikebook/IG/Twitter. You're not fooling anyone.

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>>89808237
>An eight episode show that clearly telegraphs when certain moments in the show are either grossly dramaticized/figments of Haller's imagination or the reality of Haller being interrogated
>Being completely incapable of paying attention to the drab lighting and awful CGI to determine what is and what isn't happening in the story

Niggas like you could probably never read something as easy as like, A Game of You without whining on /co/ about something being incoherent.

>>89808365
Not him but the show never established a baseline for anything that was happening. It was just a series of surreal sequences that meant nothing.

>Being completely incapable of paying attention to the drab lighting and awful CGI to determine what is and what isn't happening in the story

You seem to be directly undermining yourself

>>89808493
What? Yes the show does, from beginning to end it tells you the exact passages of how the events of the first episode actually went.

The surreal shit with like, Haller being home with his mom are lived through Syd directly. Things like the dance sequence, Haller 'killing' the short haired girl, the flashing red room or whatever were huge signals stating that this shit was going on inside of his head.

Sure, maybe the psych ward stuff was a bit hard to peer through because a lot of shit that happened in Haller' reality / Haller's mind kind of mesh together. I'll give you that, but to say that nothing that went on in the first episode meant 'nothing' is proof that people either didn't pay attention or just didn't care.

>>89808759
My point was that the show is set up so that literally any scene/character could have either happened or not happened in reality. Your post corroborates this. It's lazy, empty storytelling.

>>89782298
>>89782515
Both wrong. It's Jemaine Clement from Flight of the Conchords.

>>89790968
>Guggenheim
Wonder how long before Felicity shows up in X-Men

>>89798239
The only people unironically claiming this are Aguirre and the cast. That said Riverdale is actually pretty decent.

>>89806494

Wayne Static died a few years ago

>>89782298
>>89782515
>>89782532
Thought it was Jemaine Clement, sorta looks like him.

Better than Powerless.

>>89781024
Jesus I loved it. So surreal, and they did a great job with color and sound playing well together.

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>>89791420
>When the Jane's Addiction song kicks in

>>89781024
What's the premise of this show again?

>>89803090
>incomprehensible
You genuinely have to be a mental midget to find this show incomprehensible, it's easy high concept mass media
>man has incredible supernatual gifts, as well as a mental illness which prevents him from sepaprating his gifts from his delusions

>>89812542

Crazy guy has mutant powers who could be the key to world changing mystery

>>89805128
That's just one of those things that don't translate well to live action, unless you want him looking like the Slim Jim guy from those commercials of course.

10/10 pilot episode.

meaning it has nowhere to go but down...

>>89811877
This.

All of my THIS.

>>89809059
Even if it didn't happen in reality, due to the nature of the protag's powers it doesn't really matter. Shit that happens both in real life and in his mind are both relevant to the plot and characters.

It might be too deep for you.

>>89794218
Of course, you didn't belive his sister and mother just happen to look like housewifes in a 50's sitcom, right?

I just watched it. It was pretty good, I think it could've benefited from a shorter run time.

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>>89813656
What an odd criticism.

I'm not saying it's bad or wrong, only that I don't get what could be trimmed or what would be gained by doing so.

>>89813468
There is no plot so far, but props for using too deep for you unironically.

>>89781024
Ok. Better than Marvel's netflix shit.

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NOICE

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Anyone getting vibes of Audrey Plaza being like an adult Ed from Cowboy Bebop.

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>>89781024
>webms
just made some in >>79268339

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>>89817564
just me... ok

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>>89817774
i mean in >>>/tv/79268339

Where can I watch this? I heard it's pretty kino.

>>89817774
>>89817946

No watermark? Wait a second, this show airs on FX...

So if I watched it on City, would it be censored? Am I missing out?

>>89817986
First ep free on iTunes.

>>89818046
Does City censor stuff after the watershed?

I mean, we're talking about a channel that aired softcore porn for decades on the weekend.

>>89781024
It was pretty interesting, I'm looking forward to seeing more. Curious if other mutants will show up later on

>>89817253
>Not Chris Claremont

>>89799576

Reading that, I can't help thinking Shadow King will be involved at some point.

>>89799576
Wait when was Syd thrown in the astral plane?

>>89813922
I think the pacing was slow, so maybe that's what anon meant by runtime

if it was shorter, and covered the same ground, pacing would be faster

So can we talk about how the romance play out? Like I usually hate that sort of thing in cape shows but this one seems charming for some reason. that's of course the reason it will end in flames

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>Doctor Poole

>>89813922

Less trippy scenes and more plot scenes?

>>89801452
>not not-bishop

>>89794246
or maybe they are separate people he absorbed into himself

>>89823090
Chris Claremont and Bill Sienkiewicz got creator credits in the opening

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>>89817774

Was it all in his head or were they all taking dance lessons in the mental hospital or were those people even real or just hallucination or did he actually not even see this but it's just shown for some kind of symbolism or is that just left open to interpretation or

>>89791420

Why is that actor in everything?

Are they keeping the thing that every personality has different power, or does he just have some kind of vaguely defined but single power?

>>89830241

Yes

>>89813656
Pilot was 2 episodes...

>>89781024
man split feels like a rip off of legion

>>89782033
more smarter than your brain is

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>>89831499
>more smarter

>people think it's smart
>people think it's "not like your usual comic book stuff"
It's not usual from comics, because comics about David were fucking smarter.