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How do you make horror elements in comics work?

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How do you make horror elements in comics work?
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>>89762239
Swamp thing
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>>89762239
im super fucking scared right now of that thing on the left
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>>89762266
Pretty sure it's SCP fanart.
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-093
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>>89762239
Japan knows
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>>89762239
Read Black Hole.
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DRR...DRR...DRR...
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Read junji Ito.

He uses realistic anatomy and then digfigures some of the character in a way that makes your skin crawl because of the realism.

The other would be to build tension, and then scare the audience with aome really horrorfying images
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>>89762239
Good art is a must. It annoys the shit out of me when I read a horror comic and the art is complete trash (see Avatar comics).
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>>89762623
That shit just kept getting deeper.
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>>89762239
By doing whatever Junji Ito does...?
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>>89762623
This was super cool.
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>>89762239
atmosphere and mood certainly are major elements.
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>>89765260
>>89767834
>>89768726
Kill yourselves, weaboo trash
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>>89769098
But without the weebs the board wouldn't be real anymore
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>horror comic
>generic artstyle you use for superhero comics
>boring story with no real hook, just generically spooky
>lots of really bland uses of gore that aren't effective at all and ruin the moment
>zero sense of dread whatsoever, zero suspense, things just happen from moment to moment
>shitty twist ending
>bonus points: it's a pun
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>>89769098
I'm sorry you get mad at people who enjoy media from foreign countries. You'll learn to deal with it when you're older I'm certain.
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I tried a Horror thread on here a few days ago asking what the top tier of the genre was and no one answered. Do all horror comics (other than Moore's Swamp Thing) suck?
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>>89769312
Yeah, pretty much.
Most writers only have a sense of horror within the grasp of film, so they don't really know what works in comics.
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You have Bendis write it
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You can't have jump scares in comics, so that takes out 90% of the average horror writer's arsenal

Horror novels work because your imagination fills in the imagery, comic book art doesn't have the same effect
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>>89769440
Hue
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>>89769312
I really like Harrow County by Cullen Bunn and Tyler Crook from Dark Horse
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>>89762239
Tension and atmosphere is pretty fucking hard to do in comics.
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>>89762239
Make all of them like this
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>>89769824
Is this loss?
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>>89769824
Idk, this isn't really that scary
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>>89769483
>comic book art doesn't have the same effect

unless the art explicitly tries to convey disorientation and intensity. That way the viewer cant quite tell what they're looking at, and that creates aprehension and with the right story, fear and big frightens.

Pic related is an absolutely shitty edgy movie but the visuals are phenomenal in this regard.

The thing is that horror comics dont embrace surrealism as much as they probably should.
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I don't think comics can be scary
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>>89762239
Very strong art that can help make very uncomfortable or tense imagery.

Comics are not a good medium for horror honestly, in fact I'd argue horror is just about the worst genre for a comic book because of how difficult it is to make a format like that scary. Imagery is everything, absolutely fucking everything, in a horror comic.
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>words can be scary
>pictures can be scary
>words and pictures cant be scary
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can someone post that comic about the lady searching for her kid or something?
the one that moves when you move
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>>89769098
Can I bash in your skull? I'm willing to bet that isn't where you keep your brain.
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>>89770027
That really depends on your definition of scary.

If you mean heart racing looking over your shoulder scary I agree, but you can make a comic fairly unsettling.
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>>89769880
It's more of an existential dread.
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>>89770139
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>>89769880
Still better than most I've seen.
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>>89769312
I like Wytches for it's take on witches. Primarily the fact that they have nothing to do with magic.
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West is really bad at picturing impassive, flaccid or simply disturbing, understated imagery (with accent on simplicity). Junji Ito for example thrives when presenting relatively crude images in masterful succession.

Actually Corben isn't that far away even though his tone is a bit more diluted due to his amazing drawing talent.
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>>89770149
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>>89770139
>>89770149
Grossout =/= scary
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>>89770195
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>>89770202
Then what is scary?
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>>89762623
093 is probably my favorite SCP. Reading everything until the end, that last Agent report. What came to Earth that was so great and terrible to do that? And if there are more of the 093 disks, will it come to ours?
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>>89770149
I mean, if I were a younger me I'd be scared. Present me just thinks this is funny.
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>>89770226
Real life.
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>>89770177
>his tone is a bit more diluted
Corben's sense of horror is really rooted in looming dread like Poe or Lovecraft. Like Rat God is never scary, it's just horrifying
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>>89769312
Harrow County is pretty good and House of Penance was an enjoyable read. Dunno about any other ongoings.

Has Chilling Adventures of Sabrina started back up? I was really entertained by that series.
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I'm working on and off on a horror comic that I'd like to get done by Halloween. Just something in between my other projects.

This was just a rough sketch of a throwaway monster I was thinking of adding. So I gotta ask, would this sorta art be scary in a horror comic?
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>>89770087
Written horror is often scary because of lack of imagery. As soon as you see the monster, it's not as scary as what ever your own mind made up.
Images are often scary because of lack of context. What exactly am I seeing in the picture? Why was it taken? As soon as you hear the story, it's not as scary as what ever your own mind made up.
Comics gives images to the words, and context to the images, in turn ruining both.
While I do think you can make a good horror comic(It's just extremely hard), this is why those two things often work on the own, but rarely together.
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>>89770149
>Thats true, he was a racist

I lost it.
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>>89770226
Stuff that pokes the snake recognizer in a way that the pattern finder can't parse.
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>>89770226
Atmosphere and execution
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>>89770226
yo mama
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>>89769483
Anon, if you need a jump scare in the first place it's not good horror.
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>>89770210
This is the guy that did the Furry Trap, isn't it?
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>>89770326
Check your dimensional privilage.
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>>89770335
That's cute though. Death is funny once humanized.
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>>89770348
I need an adult.
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>>89770451
I am an adult.
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>>89770328
This.
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>>89770316
Maybe if i could tell what it is
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>>89762239
Ha. I remember using pics by that artist on the left and that photo on the right in a prank on a friend.

I got a buncha photos from /x/ and that artist. I loaded them on an SD card with some creepy music, like the creepy music from Eyes Wide Shut played backwards.

Then I snuck it into a digital frame with sound a friend had in his work space. I had the music quietly playing on it. He got home from work one night and was spooked when he went in the room. Only when it got to an altered pic of a dog figurine we keep sneaking into each others' apartments did he realize I was pranking him.
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>>89770316
>>89770500
Imagery horror is fickle. You need to find a sweet spot where what you're showing isn't too ridiculous (so people just find it funny/goofy), isn't too abstract (so people just get confused as to what they're seeing, puzzling over what they're seeing instead of being scared), or too bland (so people doesn't really give a fuck about what is being shown).
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>>89770316
no.
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>>89762239
body horror
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>>89762239
use the page turn to its full effect
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>>89770419
How dare you. Kenn's art is as terrifying as it comes and should be taken at the utmost sincerity
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>>89770139

Isn't this pretty much the plot of Dead Space?
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>>89769824
I donr get whats happening did he look into a mirror?
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>>89769721

It's not really scary or spooky, though.
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>>89771116
The artist is known for drawing shit from his dreams
It's not meant to make sense
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>>89771030
Yes, now that I think about it.
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>>89762623
It is, here's the page it's on on the artist's behance

https://www.behance.net/gallery/32658881/Art-for-SCP-Foundation-calendar-2016
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>>89769312
Idk about top tier, but I like The Coffin.
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>>89769824
Is that some Chuck Burns? Keep meaning to check his shit out.
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>>89769312
Can't go wrong with Eerie and Creepy Magazine. Hope you like Anthologies because that's most of what Horror is in comics.
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For years I've been meaning to make a tragic romance meets cosmic horror story about a cultish church (that is totally not based on any actual real one) fighting a group of anonymous internet hacktivists. Oddly, I had that loose idea before that shit actually happened on a certain Laotian hand puppet forum.

I wanted to use a King In Yellow type of character as an ancient fear elder god taking over. I had even found an old copy of the book. This even was before the whole True Detective craze that popularized it.
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That comic where a guy is turned in an insect monster is pretty good ans was drawn in Paint.
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>>89774130
This one?
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I'm sorry /co/
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>>89774195
Yes. I love it. Simple and unsettling.
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>>89774119
>cosmic horror
I'll never understand why so many peopl jerk off to cosmic horror. I just refuse to find them at all terrifying.
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>>89774227
Son of a bitch. It's like the stupid Candlejack meme but with murder.

Don't blame me,
he made me write this post.
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>>89774111
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>>89774329
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>>89769891
Like D.O.G.S. of Mars
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>>89774227
I'm still not dead!
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>>89774227
I remember actually turning around because of how little i was expecting the ending
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>>89774227
That's really neat but you could see it coming the second they start telling the story because they just said it's always preceded by the story.
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>>89770389
No, Furry Trap is Josh Simmons. This strip is Johnny Ryan.
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>>89774227
If they know he's going to kill them anyways, why bother helping in spreading the story?
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>>89774329
>>89774364
I like this kind of body horror
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>>89762239
Focus on visuals that are best achieved in a medium that doesn't require high skilled actors or high cost special effects.

Also I feel like horror and comic fans have a big enough overlap that you can go nuts with the writing.
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>>89774195

I fucking hate this fucking comic.
Jesus Christ anything with bugs just freaks me out.

But aside from my fear of bugs, this is actually an interesting and good comic.
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>>89774437
I had Mignola sign the actual book that graphic is from. He just did the cover and I think some small little doodles inside, but I thought it would be neat.
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>>89762266
It's just a girl, anon, calm down. You can't even see her face!
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>>89774574
Artist is Simon Stalenhag

here's his website

http://www.simonstalenhag.se
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We posting spooky inspiration, now?
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>>89774227
Around Abimor, never relax.
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>>89774573
But he doesn't? The scribe, the tour guide, and the T.V. announcer weren't murdered because they helped him.
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>>89774646
I know, I'm the same anon as >>89774329
but eitherway stuff like this and the stuff in Akira is top tier imo
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>>89762239
>How do you make horror elements in comics work?
The abnormal has to intrude into the everyday normality in a shocking, haunting or creepy way. Setting has to be rock solid believable to support the unlikely.
Poorly shown setting means fake people have a fake problem, no friction.
The Japanese are the best i've seen at this, the Chinese can do it too: saw a story about a feudal man who had an affair, murdered his wife and ran off with the new woman. It was basically that story until they are travelling through the forest and someone is under a bridge, a woman looking up through the bridge slats with her face covered. He asks who she is and she's silent. It's one of the most ghastly creepy moments in a movie i've ever seen, because a normal story suddenly turns into a haunting, you can feel your nerves being stretched with fear.
Whether it's his guilt or an actual supernatural threat is never resolved, but that moment is where the audience is lifted away from the everyday world into a realm of horror without anyone needing to be sawed to pieces.
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>>89774678
more from that artist in the left of op's pic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zdzis%C5%82aw_Beksi%C5%84ski

>>89774696
ooo. bad timing
> Beksiński was stabbed to death at his Warsaw apartment in February 2005 by a 19-year-old acquaintance from Wołomin, reportedly because he refused to lend the teenager any money and threatened him further.
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>>89774703
They know from the previous victims that he murdered them after they helped him spread the story.
If spreading the story summons him, then why would they help spread it?
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>>89773097
I wanna fuck that tree.
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>>89774749
Ah. Yeah I like it too. I just discovered Stalenhag's art recently and I love it
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>>89774795
talk about getting a woody
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>>89774764
The Japanese never know how to finish, and it really sours the experience.
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>>89774812
We Epic Mickey concept art time?
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>>89774029
Just did a quick google search, is it all Vampirella?
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>>89774773
Here's where horror illustration fails to do anything but puzzle or arouse interest.
Beksinski himself does his paintings as a joke you know.
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>>89774847
Does anyone do good endings to horror?
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>>89774847
All Japanese story telling is pauses broken up by action, westerners who try to copy that make boring versions of.
The expectation of a neat ending with everything revealed is cultural and kind of primitive. It has nothing to do with real life and situates the story/artwork as exactly that: apart from reality so not as scary.
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>>89774774
Spreading the story doesn't summon him. He just prefers to do his murdering after giving his victims info about himself. He's the one who approached these people to create each new biography, not the other way around. And like I said earlier, no one who actually helped create any of the works became a victim: we don't see him murdering the scribe, or the tour guide, or the T.V. announcer.
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>>89774972
Blade Runner was a good job of that.
Probably why so many nerds say nothing happens in it.
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>>89774972
I don't need a neat ending, I just find that I'm disappointed by Japanese endings most of the time. And it's not even a problem with horror, most anime/manga have lame endings as well.
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>>89774898
Vampirella is just one host of her own set of comics, I think from the same company.
Hers is the one with more hot chicks than usual. Eerie and Creepy have their own hosts that are decided less sexy, unless you're into that sort of thing.
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>>89774979
Oh I thought the guy reading the paper was the scribe. Still though, quit helping murderers selfish ass people.
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What is scarier? The unknown or the distortion of the familiar?
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>>89775251
Both at the same time.
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>>89775251
Depends on the person, I guess. The distortion of the familiar works wonders on me.
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>>89770139
>>89770149
>>89770195
>>89770210
Lovecraftian type horror. Every fucking time.

What is the idea behind such imagery? It has always stood out to me.
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>>89775251

Depends on your type.

But IMO I'd say distortion of the familiar. The unknown can be cool and creepy, but I rarely find it scary.
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>>89774764
what's the name of the movie?
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>>89774300
We'll because dealing with beings completely and utterly beyond your realm of thought so much that you can barley perceive them without going insane can be pretty terrifying
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>>89775843
Johnny Ryan, says so on the first page.

That's one of the few horror themed ones he has, though.
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>>89775251
distortion of the familiar for me. The unknown is just fascinating, I've never been scared of Lovecraft as much as I am just intrigued.

But the familiar can be distorted, or warped. Like supermarket but the meat section is just casually human meat and body parts yet no one bats and eye. That is scary to me because it is plausible.
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>>89774300
You have to be into it, and the concept is typically something so incomprehensible and horrible that it just breaks you, and if it's really bad it just starts breaking reality. It's all in your head to try to devise what that is and then it tells you "no worse". You're doing all the leg work they're just moving the finish line.
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>>89776203
>>89776291
I guess I just have to side with >>89776259. It just doesn't do it for me. For whatever reason, vengeful spirits seem more realistic and threatening than a random space alien showing up to eat the Earth.
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>>89775843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWFDHynfl1E
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Atmospheric art.
Ben Templesmith and Mignola are pretty good examples of what I mean.
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>>89776235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRRhRlKW3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5o8oe-vzIE
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>>89774300
That's how I feel about body horror.

I'm terrified of all kinds of real-life illnesses and yet body horror is absolutely hilarious to me most of the time when I see it in fiction.
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>>89774227
>indistinct figure with big smile
fucking STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>89776470
Well, it's more than just an alien. Just think of it as a extremely powerful vengeful spirit with a reach and ability you can barely comprehend. There's a reason some of them are called elder gods. They're more powerful than what we historically think of as traditional demons.
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You best start believing in cosmic horror stories.
You're in one.
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>>89777979
Did those asshole kids think their cancer-ridden conductor was a skeleton
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>>89778147
They thought that fruit who taught gym was a vampire, why the fuck not?
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B.P.R.D.'s the best long-form horror comic I've read so far, and I think it really benefits from its creators putting the effort into making a world that's believable first and foremost, with the horrific subversion coming secondary.
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I have no idea where this came from but it's pretty spooky.
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I may get some flak for this, but certain issues of Hellblazer were pretty good and creepy. The murder room, issue 140, was pretty creepy.
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ever find an image on your phone and you have no idea how it got there?
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>>89769312
horror was actually one of the primary--at least, the most explicit-- targets of 1950's censorship
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>>89776470
It really depends on how it's done. Good cosmic horror is less about how bizarre the alien is and more about the absolute dread of something that not only can't be understood but works on such a large scale that you have no way of doing anything about it. It's like thinking about what it's like to be a beetle that one day looked up and noticed a kid with a magnifying glass.

The problem with cosmic horror is that it's ridiculously easy to do wrong though, because too often people focus on the YOU GO INSANE JUST BY LOOKING AT IT LOOK HOW MANY MOUTHS AND TENTACLES IT HAS aspect which misses the point.
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Well I guess it depends on what type of horror you like. For me, the best horror I believe should be merely brief and suggestive, the more cryptic and confounding the scarier.
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I keep finding these odd pics. Maybe I was browsing /x/ while drunk.
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>>89770027
scary is such an ignorantly non-encompassing synonym of horror its sad

as common as jump scare media is, im glad im actually seeing better, more discomforting horror stuff coming out than just "Boo, so scary"
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>>89778598
>LOOK HOW MANY MOUTHS AND TENTACLES IT HAS
This is the part that annoys me. Some people think that just having some weird mess of parts is scary, and it's not. Look at >>89777868 for example, the eldritch abomination on the right isn't in and of itself scary. The fish people there are scarier to me just based on the visual impression.

If a story about this image was well written the monster could be ten times scarier than its worshipers, but just based on the image alone "giant tentacled thing with a giant mouth and a bunch of eyes" isn't really scary.
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This needs a comic
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>>89769440
He wants horror, not horrible
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>>89769824
The last image throws me off.
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I think horror works best when you view it as the opposite of a joke, the set up works to establish the tone and the world, and the punchline subverts it into a twist that makes sense, but instead of a good joke making you laugh, good horror leaves you with an uncomfortable and confusing mix of emotions
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>>89762239
Skeletons.
Lots of em
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>>89774227
Wait, so does this mean he simultaneously murdered everyone who was watching or just the one pree-drinking guy?
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>>89778855
Those are past murders
The person currently being murdered is (You)
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>>89778855
The comic is basically just a really long setup for a LOOK BEHIND YOU moment, so I don't think the writer actually thought it through.
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>>89778877
No, I get that those were past murders, but the current "storyteller" is doing so by television. So that means that more than one person can be watching this guy tell the story.
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>>89778912
Oh, just the guy in the comic.
In fact, it looks like the guys television automatically changed itself. So the murder probably set it so only this guy saw it.
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>>89778912
Maybe it's pre-recorded and the Abimor rigged his DVR to trick him into thinking it was a live broadcast.

Which is kind of a ridiculous amount of work for this one kill but I guess that's just how he rolls? Apparently he waited over a century and decided his next victim should be some shirtless drunk.
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finally a thread on co that isn't tumblr fandom trash.

you want horror read the following:
From Hell
Black Hole
Adamtine
The Sandman (the fact that this hasn't been mentioned yet is a sin)
Hellblazer
Wytches (if snyder would get off his ass and write something)

Also Preacher is a godlike one but more a mix of action/horror than anything else
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>>89779117
>Preacher
I struggle to remember any horror from Preacher. I think The Boys had more horror moments as far as Ennis stuff goes.
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>>89779142
meat factory guy is creepy enough for the whole series
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I remember seeing a comic posted on here that goes into horror territory. The premise was like an interpol version of SCP or something. It was called the Network or something like that. I believe Takeshi Kitano might have been a character in one issue.
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I really shouldn't be clicking on all these images right before I fall asleep...
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Some parts of Courtney Crumrin weren't too bad, though probably more for younger audiences.
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>>89774227
Thanks, now I got an awesome free knife!
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>>89778748
I dunno, I feel like Bloodborne's a lot better as a game, since a lot of it is figuring out on your own what happened in Yharnam by yourself as you dig around
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>>89769926
rEMINDS ME OF THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZfmPREbTd8
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>>89779288
Is that... Blartscape?
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>>89779179
Why? They're really comfy.
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>>89770139
>>89770149
>>89770195
>>89770210
>when you get over 40 Insight
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crapped myself tbqh
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>>89778733
Scary is an adjective to describe things that induce fear. If discomforting horror horrifies you, then it's scary to you. Literally the film, movie, kino bullshit from /tv/.
Quit being so autistic
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>>89770941
Kenn is a great gift to humanity, and so are these edits
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>>89774227
Isn't this just the plot of The Bye-Bye Man?
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>>89779741
Candyman, bloody mary, etc
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>>89779741
>implying the bye bye man didnt rip off the thousands of memetic killer creepypastas
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>>89776235
:^(
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>tfw nothing in this thread is remotely scary.
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>>89779741
Don't say it.
Don't think it.
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>>89779765
>>89779767
Sure, I just don't get why it's supposed to be particularly scary. I can reason out why, it just seems silly to me.

Maybe it's just because I read the BLIT stories and those are just sci-fi extrapolations of it.
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>>89779741
No the plot of bye bye man was you'll kill yourself for watching such a shitty movie.
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>>89778733
>better, more discomforting horror stuff coming out
Where? Horror is pure garbage these days. The only "discomfort" it brings is realization that you wasted hours of your life you could've spent doing or watching something much better.
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Would you be scared, if you see that TV company logo as a kid?
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Say what you want but VR is probably the most effective way of delivering horror. Can't wait for affordable headsets and horror games that aren't just jumpscares.
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>>89769824
This one comes closest for me. It's short and contextless enough to trigger the goddamn fight-or-flight response without being intriguing.

Comics are a difficult medium for conveying horror, they lack the timing and sound of movies and fill-in-the-blanks imaginative power of literature.
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>>89779982
Russian here.
No. I always thought it's Yeltsin in an old woman's wig.
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>>89769163
locke and key?

if it is I actually liked it. it wasn't scary but I thought it was a cool adventure
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>>89779997
Videogames are capable of doing only the most boring kind of horror.
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>>89780042
>it's Yeltsin
Same desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT22uXUI-vg
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>>89780058
Vidya is capable of anything
Whether people will buy good horror is the real question
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>>89780114
I have never seen a horror game that is actually scary and not the same "boring dark places and ugly houses, laughable-looking monsters, lots of suspenseless walking, jumpscares, cheesy "scary" music" formula of Silent Hill shit. Good horror creators don't flock to videogames.
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Y'know what scares me? Tiny red glowing eyes.
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Slow build suspense.
Gotham by Midnight got me into horror comics that way with issue 1.
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>>89762239
From the left side of the thumbnail I thought it was Wojak "the feels guy" descending upon the populace
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I'll just leave this here.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-835
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>>89780140
You've never played Silent Hill I see
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>>89776203
>>89776291
Why is this even scary? Because humans aren't the center of the universe? An ant doesn't give a shit that it can't 'comprehend' say, accounting.
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>>89780183
The new canon should rename him Taek D'Nott
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>>89778733
Here's your mistake, you think jumpscares is what people mean when they want something scary.
Horror movies we get these days make the mistake of "no jumpscares = instant tension" which results in very boring horror movies because most filmmakers kinda suck at creating suspense.

Session 9 is what I think a really scary movie is and nothing made in the last years comes close to being as good as that. If anything, the genre is stagnating creating a turd after turd after turd.
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>>89770177
>>89768726
>>89767834
While not a horror mangaka, I'm always perplexed as to why no one ever brings up Shintaro Kago.
I've always found his works to be far more disturbing, both visually and thematically, than Junji Ito's.
Even his fetish work is just so impressively strange.

Super Conductive Brain Parataxis unnerved me far more than anything I read from Ito. And it certainly had a more satisfying ending than anything I've read of Ito's as well.
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>>89780473
Nice rebuttal.
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>>89770139
>>89770149
>>89770195
>>89770210

this is good stuff
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>>89780531
Ah, I should mention to those unfamiliar that Shintaro Kago's works are largely surrealist comedy.
I don't think a single one of his stories are straight horror.
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>>89762239
It depends. See, as quite a few people have pointed out on this thread, Cinema and Comics are ultimately two different mediums. However, there are a few similarities which can be used.

The first is build up. In order for something to be truly horrifying, you must show why it's scary or get the audience in suspense. The first way of building terror is quite easy. The 'monster' (The thing that inspires terror) must have its powers shown without giving too much away, but letting the audience know it is strong. These powers can be practically anything so long as it shows the audience to be afraid. The second way of building suspense is actually through in my opinion a vastly underrated aspect of the medium. Paneling. How panels are laid out on the page help to pace the story and can help the audience anticipate what happens. From that you can manipulate their expectations.

The second thing that both mediums rely on is story telling. The reason that a lot of horror films fall apart now a days is that they ultimately have no real story to them. It just feels like an excuse to introduce the monster. However in horror the story matters. It needs to build up the world which the monster inhabits. From there you can truly understand the monster for what they are and their place in the universe. Now, this is where you can use the difference between comics and movies to your advantage. Artwork can really set the tone of the story and help with the atmosphere.

The biggest medium difference though is style. Movies, although they have progressed far are still limited by budgets and ease of production. Comics are not limited in that way. In art, one can create all manner of twisted abominations and abnormal shapes that could never be placed on the big screen.

In fact, apart from story the art is ultimately the most important part of a comic. For artwork is what molds the expectation of the audience when they read comics allowing authors the power to play with them.
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>>89780547
So you haven't.
Can't really call yourself an authority on horror games then.
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>>89780714
>still no rebuttal
>"y-you just didn't play"
Pathetic but expected of /v/ermin.
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>>89777868
I'd fuck the girl in the back
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>>89769926
Looks like it could be sunless sea concept art
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>>89780797
I'm sorry, women can never be scary. They're the least scary things in the universe right there with cats and rabbits.
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>>89780807
Wrong!
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>>89780531
That guy is a strange man.
Strange man.
Love his work though.
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>>89780875
Oh you guys will love this one.
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>>89780531
>Super Conductive Brain Parataxis
Now that's a title I haven't heard in a while. I'd run a storytime if it wasn't for the awful hassle of captcha.
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>>89780531
>>89780875
What do you think this guy faps to?
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>>89780885
CEASE AND DESIST
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>>89780920
I don't think he faps.
Rather he has a portal which allows him to travel to all of the worlds from which he takes inspiration from. It is there where he fucks everything in sight.
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>>89780875
>>89780531
I read an interview with this guy; he works for adult magazines that HAVE to be graphic, but allow him full creative freedom. So he just has fun being as fucking crazy as he can.
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>>89780920
The rotting and bloated bodies of schoolgirls that he's exhumed and keeps in the dankness of his basement.

>>89780947
That's really cool. Never knew that, but it certainly explains the absurdity.
Also explains why sex permeates like 95% of his work.
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>>89780971
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>>89780947
He certainly has a sense of humor.

From a VICE interview from 2008
>What were you like as an elementary school kid?

That’s the next question? Wow, I didn’t see that coming [laughs]. Well, my parents died when I was one, and the first time I stole I was five years old. I lost my virginity at six and was briefly into bestiality but got over it when I was around seven. Horses were the toughest, man. They’re so damn big.
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Stranger Things is pretty much what I would expect a show about SCPs to be like
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>>89778855
>>89778892
The news reporter mentions it's a tape
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Really into this storytime, thanks anon
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>>89781053
I can relate to this guy too much

I'm not enjoying myself anymore
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>>89781062
Can't blame ya
It's a shitty comic
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>>89781079
That it?
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>>89781062
I too want to rape women and children, while simultaneously eating them alive.
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>>89781079
Da fuck was that?

It was creepy, but only because "person sees his family and loved ones being horribly ruined" is a creepy concept in of itself, not because the story itself did it well.
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>>89781079
>page 134

What the fuck is this
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Mystery.

As generic and uninspired as it sounds, we fear what we do not understand. The more mysterious and unnatural something is, the more terrifying it has the potential to be.

You use that xenophobia to build up suspense and build up a sense of dread and finally, when you unveil your creation (if you unveil your creation) you do it in a way that perfectly cashes in on all the suspense you've built up to make the whole experience truly terrifying.
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>>89762623
Ultimately very disappointing. That little blurb of exposition at the very end didn't explain anything remotely interesting. The atmosphere is good and the world building was decent but the payoff just gave me more questions than chills.
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>>89770316
Looks like a very ugly dick
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>>89780727
It's funny because they showed an example of a good horror game and you went full "no u". Fucking idiot.
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>>89781079

This started off alright, then got kind of dumb, though I guess the ending was okay.

Where's it from, anyway?
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>>89781079

I got the impression that he just went crazy and went all John List on his family himself.
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>>89769256
>enjoy
more like obsesion if you ask me
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>>89782114
>>89782144
We can all see what you posted first. Also, how is enjoying the works of one artist the same as being obsessed?
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>>89782189
>media from foreign countries=/=one artist
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>>89782239
Works by one artist from a foreign country = media from a foreign country.
I fucking despise most shit that comes from the states, but there's also plenty of shit from there that I do like, which means that I enjoy media from that country, just not all of it.
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>>89778748
Being a video is a much better medium for bloodborne.
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>>89782278
assuming that all media comes from us or japan
damn you're ignorant
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>>89782352
How the fuck did I ever say that? Are you retarded?
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>>89780885
This is my fetish
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>>89779721
What is this?
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You don't. There are no spooky scary comics.

Which is why I find it funny reading Alan Moore's comments on horror comics.
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>>89762239
Sell the rights to Hollywood. Well, not that Hollywood makes good horror.
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>>89782499
Link me bitch. Pretty please.
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The Void
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6QiQqiMK6E

The Offering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuuugEg2K0E

The Force of Will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjSnFPKAEA4

Metachaos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj0Q3VXIac

Scorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvBo_rKleNw

A Shadow out of Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7jp1CT1h6c

Thresher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNdbHHWtBc

AM1200
https://vimeo.com/102372269

Pig Pen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfcAwc0UTVY

The Bunyip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrYO-Mog60
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This ain't really /co/ but since we are having a scary thread i might as well share these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_HKzo9Ync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0I-iA5lJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdyknT4uchM
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>>89780506
I think the idea is that ants understand as much about accounting as we humans do about life and existence.
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>>89780828
Tentacles /Weird limbs comming form a portal in the sky will be always my favourite horror imagery.
It works so well in a level I can't explain. Plus points If ou never see the whole fucker trying to go thru.
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>>89762239
Obscurity
Oppression
Inevitability

Horror Comics are the still frames of something terrible
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>>89781215
Understandable, although I enjoyed it. SCPs do have a tendency to rely on "we just don't knooow" punchlines.
The SCP concept originated on /x/ and there are a metric fuckton of articles of varying quality (though nothing too creepypasta-tier, as the site does have some form of quality control). Some are just straight up sci-fi withough any horror elements. Very easy to lose a couple hours there.
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>>89782546
Yes, I remember these but forgot the name

Thanks, I've been looking for these
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Anyone who has ever claimed to be scared from reading a novel or anything from Stephen King should be euthanised on the spot
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>>89782604
This is only creepy because it looks like someone's weird fetish.
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This is my Milwaukee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXnPT1qH8qE
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>>89782364
if it is so give me an example of horror comic that are not from this 2 countries
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>>89782497
A manga called "The Promised Neverland"

It's very good. It has some horror elements but it's mostly about the suspence.
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>>89781267
There is no good horror game, you fucking idiot.
I swear, /v/ermin are the worst kind of human trash.
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>>89782706
What does that have to do with anything? I never specified horror comics, I said media.
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>>89782732
because this is a horror comic thread
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>>89782604
Did he eat the entire universe except the space inside jon's house?
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>>89781267
Oh and
>M-MUH SHITTY GAMES R GUD U DIN PLAY IF U DISAGREE
>showed an example
Kek. Keep crying.
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>>89782773
So? That is unrelated to the discussion on wether consuming some media from a country is the same as being obsessed with all media from that country.
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>>89782655
Anyone who enjoys Stephen King in any capacity should be euthanized on the spot.
Him praising Hunger Games bitch as an example of a good writer only shows how low his literary standards are. Or him praising Hush yet shittalking Kubrick's Shining shows that he has no understanding what makes horror good.
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>>89782872
The movie with the killer car was pretty fun though
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>>89781267
Don't give idiot trolls the attention they seek.
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>>89770239

You are the cancer that killed SCP.

SCPs are supposed to be mysterious and spooky, not 500 page fanfictions about boring horseshit in other dimensions.
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>>89782889
That's the thing. I ended up enjoying movies based on his works far more than his actual works and I'm generally an autistic "adaptations of books always suck" nitpicker.
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>>89782900
>anyone I disagree with is le troll
God forbid someone doesn't find your shitty game scary. No, all people should have low standards.
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>>89782796
>consuming some media from a country is the same as being obsessed with all media from that country

that because you really want out of your way to discuss a topic that is not related for this board they are 5-6 japanese boards both cartoons and comic related
but you insist to post on a non-japanese related media board that the move of a guy obses with that type media if he can't stop talking over that subject went isn't necessary
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>>89782872
My only problem with the Kubrick Shining is that Jack Nicholson is crazy looking to start, so him snapping isn't a shock. Admittedly the guy from Wings they got to be Jack in the miniseries wasn't the best choice either.
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>>89782991
I'm not the guy who's been talking about Ito, I'm just saying that consuming some media from a country is not the same as being obsessed with the country and everything it shits out. Liking Ito does not make you a weaboo, and talking about his work, in a thread about how horror works in comics is on topic because people are discussion wether or not you can make it work in that art form, origin of country is unrelated.
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>>89782995
Well, that much I agree, but it's Jack Nicholson. He can't really help it.
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>>89782624

>''We just don't knooow''

Except its kind of an inside joke that they do know the true function of most of the SCP but only the OS-5 can access these info so it ain't like the average SCP worker will ever get an hint that thing ain't as they seem. There a tons of SCP that are pretty much a coverup for the SCP itself so others within the org don't go an mess with it (or one of those other organization that work like them in-universe) like that end of time fatso sitting on pillars or that one SCP you can't ever remember, well I remember that its implied somewhere else to be the result of a SCP containment procedure, just like how SCP-093 is implied to be the inter-dimensional gatehub by which our true ancestor/proto-SCP escaped their original universe that got fucked up by being strangely similar to those present within SCP-093, implying they actually comes from a pseudo-meta-realit/meta-limbo that that exist on certain frequency of radiowave that the Proto-SCP tried to tap into for divine powers as to rule/contain/protect the world, SCP-2998 if I remember well, and that basically our reality is a safeboat from the pandora box we opened as whatever the fuck was in these radiowave is spilling out into the multiverse
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I remember a shot comics of a guy collecting small houses and then eventually getting his own house snatched by somebody. If only I could find it... It wasn't really scary, but the art style was both a bit creepy and amazing.
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>>89783086
>origin of country is unrelated.
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>>89783191
What a bunch of pseudoscience garbage. Way to kill off any sense of dread.
The best SCPs are standalone and don't require muh lore.
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>>89783261
In this case it is. I'm not saying that people should start threads specifically to discuss his work, but in a thread specifically discussing of horror works in a medium like comics, his work is related to the discussion, since he makes horror comics.
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>>89783284

Actually I just wrote what I think I could figure out of the text, the way its written its far more clever than how I wrote it, at least the reveal. Its far more between the lines and implied, like if you don't know what scp-093 is prior to reading that SCP you just won't realize that you're probably speaking of the same thing.
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>>89782542
>Scorn

I want to play that NAW
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>>89783311
>anime horror comic not west one

is not related to this board

if you really want to discuss his work or similar to his work go to /a/
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>>89783386
It is not related to the board no, but it is related to the discussion, which is related to the board.
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>>89783444
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>>89783488
Thanks.
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>>89783497
you're welcome anime fag
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>>89769483
>comic book art doesn't have the same effect
maybe not the art itself, but I disagree

The Crooked Man story in Hellboy did do a number on me
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>>89783586
Kek, I don't even go to /a/. Why don't you yell at the people discussing movies, or books in the thread too? They are equally unrelated to board topic, but related to the thread topic.
You should stop obsessing over the weaboogieman, it's not healthy.
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>>89783650
kek why you're bitching about i just say welcome
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>>89780885

Want to learn of a real life parasite that do something worse than that, like a fly that put down his eggs inside the sinuses of Caribou or another that on the flank of these same guys so the larva lodge itself under the skin, afterward starting to travel slowly to the back of the animal. or Flatworm the size of 1$ coin that eat stripes off your liver as they eat the surface or make kist grow inside the muscles so it end up looking like a grapefruit of flesh was growing from it

Parasitism is probably the weirdest and most specialized kind of lifeforms I've seen to date. Couldn't even survive if it wasn't from the predation of their host species, it boggle my mind trying to figure out how such a thing can even happens in nature, like how the fuck do you pass from a more-or-less sovereign organism to one that is entirely dependent on a host to survive or simply pass from the larval stage to the adult state, with even a juvenile state inbetween for certain species.
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>>89769163
>horror comic
>it's cthulu shit
>le one million spooky tentacles of d00m xD *glomps*
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>>89783763
>anime fag
Sure did my friend.
But lets stop bitching at each other, I'd rather discuss the actual topic of the thread, than debate board rules, and meta topics. Also the guy who brought up Ito either isn't in the thread any more, or stopped talking about him, so this is really a pointless debate.
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>>89783813
>horror comic
>it's cthulu shit
>Actually embraces and tries to find a way of conveying a descent into madness through coloring, framing, and timing.

That's why Providence is a gift from god.
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>>89769163
Is gore ever effective?
It always ruins everything unless it's implied and lets your imagination play scary visuals on itself.
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>>89769098
Bu what's so bad about Junji Ito's work? You have to judge a comic book story for what happens inside of it and how it looks, not for the country it came from.
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>>89783870
>Is gore ever effective?
New 52 Animal Man.
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>>89774227

>ancient egypt
>only 2000 years ago

murrican education
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>>89783870
Characters stumbling across a scene of carnage with gore strewn about can be effective in its own way. What caused the carnage? Is the destruction in some form of significant pattern? Stuff like that can ratchet up tension in ways that a few drops of blood can't, though that's not to say smears and drops of blood can't be terrifying on their own. Especially when said trails terminate in a wall.
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>>89778748

Be careful what you wish for, the Dark Souls comic is dreadful.
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>>89783813
I really love Lovecraft's works, but it never really holds up if you try to put pictures to it.

>>89783870
I would say it sort of depends on how it's done. Showing only small bits of it, with most of the gore being off panel, or in the shadows can work pretty well. But full blown gore is often more fascinating, than horrifying, to look at in a comic.

>>89783925
Besides his stories often having weird, or outright bad endings, he's pretty okay. Nice art, and great at unnerving you through the absurd.
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>>89783870

Gore for the sake of gore ain't effective at all

But gore that happens within a context or as a consequence of a logical cause are acceptable, especially as if to give some kind of contrast to some predefined idea of the thing, like it would be hard to take seriously the threat that some creature can tear you apart like a ragdoll when it is never shown to actually put anyone in genuine danger (if it wasn't from the complete mental retardation that badly written horror movie characters tend to suffer from), alas the line between it being entertaining or downright grotesque is quite thin.

Its an ingredient of movie making just the same pepper and salt are to cooking, even if it taste good at times you can't put it on everything nor make some food entirely from it else it just won't even be edible.
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>>89783824
if you hadn't noticed everyone here says the word fag :newfag ,oldfag ,animefag ,furfag, normal fag etc. and is not always meant to be an insult you fag (that was an insult)
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>>89783870

Small moments are more effective than large amounts.

See for example, the eyeball and nose in Blair Witch Project being infinitely "scarier" than the piles of blood and guts in other movies.
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>>89779741
Not enough train whistles or dogs made out of meat.
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>>89762239
>How do you make horror elements in comics work?
Have you ever read anything by Junji Ito? He does a great job of using tension more than anything to create a pretty effective horror atmosphere in his comics.

I'm personally a fan of his shorter stories, but Uzumaki is his most famous work. You can find most of his stuff online for free too.
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>>89784057
In the context I took it more as an insult. Sorry is it wasn't meant as such.
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>>89783191
t. Warren Ellis
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>>89784300
That reminds me of that one scene in the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre where the view of the protagonist goes first person and you "feel" that Leatherface is swinging a chainsaw at your legs. Not really scary, but pretty uncomfortable, especially considering how surprisingly great the cinematography for that movie was.
More stuff like that, please.
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>>89769891
>Pic related is an absolutely shitty edgy movie but the visuals are phenomenal in this regard.
well that's the point of it
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>>89769891
That was like a Residents video with none of the cool music.
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>>89774227
>cliche: the comic book
nah, not scary. this dude >>89776899 gets it.
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>>89774898
They cover a wide range from traditional scifi, fantasy & adventure on up through dark humor to pure holy shit horror. Some of the best stuff is by Bernie Wrightson.
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>>89774764
The Koreans have been upping their game too.
Some good stuff on Tapastic and Webtoons, like Tales Of The Unusual. (Along with some good westy comics on the former)
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>>89775251
Both at the same time.
I actually had a nightmate once where my mother was cutting off a chicken's head. Then, when I started talking to her, she insisted that everything was normal, and I had a feeling that it wasn't her. For some reason I pulled her nose and it started to stretch like a piece of clay. This looked eerie as hell.
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>>89782872
>Or him praising Hush yet shittalking Kubrick's Shining shows that he has no understanding what makes horror good.
Shining is considered good not because it's actually terrifying, but because many people only saw the movie.
Saw the movie after reading the book. It was nice, but nearly not as psychological. A lot of things from the book are reduced to a single "cameo" in the movie. The book is a story of a man descending into madness, the movie is a story of Jack Nicholson fooling around in a haunted house.
I suppose it does work better when you're a 9-year old normie who thinks all the movies are like Disney and Star Wars and accidentally stumbles upon it.
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>>89784738
It's still thousand times better than trash like Hush.
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>>89784112
I've read two or three of his short stories. He's a great artist but seems like a pretty mediocre writer.
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>>89770202
Correction, grossout by itself =/= scary. Like the other anon said, juxtaposition between the normal and abnormal in a way that disturbs is scary.
The comic in question losses a lot of it's power for being too cartoony, even to the way the parents react. Imagine if instead this had been played straight and drawn by the guy who does Providence.
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Who are some /co/ villains who are only human but are far scarier than any superpowered characters or monsters?

No fucking Joker, please. In my opinion he's not scary. He's never been scary and he never will be.
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What is /co/'s opinion of Stranger Things? I only just finished it yesterday

I kind of thought it was overrated.
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>>89784923
Ventriloquist isn't scary in the sense that you view him as a threat, but he's genunely creepy and disturbing when done right
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>>89783870
It depends. The ending of Watchmen is effective in large part because of the excessive gore involved, same with Miracleman. The issue is that creators think that gore is inherently scary, which it isn't.

"Le Nothing is so scary" fags need to off themselves though.
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http://broodhollow.chainsawsuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2014-02-24-it-has-to.jpg
Nobody posted broodhollow yet?
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>>89784972
It's good, but like anything that gets too popular, it gets overhyped.
Considering how poor the horror genre has been treated for the last few years, it's a nice I hope stepping stone for more entries that improve on it.
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>>89784974
I like the compromise between having implied and actual gore. Something along the lines of
>kid walks into a room
>sounds of struggle are heard, maybe a couple of genuinely bloodcurling screams (not stock shit people use in horror movies which neither sounds scary nor realistic)
>blood leaks through the door
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>>89785041
I thought the acting was good but one thing that did not stick well with me is El. The story tries hard to set her up as the figure of innocence in a fucked up world but Lucas was right: she was a monster in her own right. By the end of the story Eleven had, at least, twice as big a body count as the fucking demigorgan did.
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>>89785188
To be fair, the people she killed were assholes that regularly killed people themselves or at the very least were complacent in the killings.
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>>89785188
Eleven is more of corrupted innocence. You're supposed to feel bad for the little girl that had her childhood stolen so she could be a psi-spy. She's obviously was turned into this monster, but her kills were justified. The demigorgon is just a xenomorph from alien. It's bestial and "natural" instead of the scientific monster of El.
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>>89784972
I'm a sucker for parallel universe stuff and the setup with the flickering lights and sounds instead of outright showing the monster were really cool. The human interactions were also pretty good.
Poor glasses girl though
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>>89778704
>>89774812
>>89774195
>>89774111
>>89769824
These are the only good pictures in the thread. Everything else is not scary nor instills any sense of terror.
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>>89785360
>>89785373
Besides the woman who killed Benny I would hardly call any of her killings 'justified'. They were guys working their -5 job to make a living, possibly to feed families waiting at home for them, likely soldiers or on government salary. Most of whom probably had no idea of all the goings on and whom never actually killed anyone (with the sole exception of Benny by that one chick) and had no intent to kill Eleven least of all due to her value as an asset if nothing else.

It's just a trope I get tired of is the down-play of wanton slaughter of people because it's convenient to mow down background characters and suffer no consequences for it, which Eleven likely wouldn't have if she'd been lived through the final act. I mean imagine how awful E.T. would have been if he killed every faceless government goon that chased him and the kid?
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>>89780960
>>89780965
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>>89781079
Does anybody have a source? I'm bored enough to read the other hundred pages
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>>89785499
Something about this one unsettles me.
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>>89785534
Already falling back on the Nuremberg Defense? That was fast.
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>>89785680
I feel you.
You know, I would really love to read a horror comic or watch a cartoon (which is even less likely) drawn by someone with a similar style to Zdislav Beksinski. I just find his art to be absolutely unnerving.


Oh, and since we're talking shows, I really miss Hannibal.
I don't even care about the gay shit, because more often than not the show hit all the right notes for me in terms of horror, first two seasons did at least.
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>>89785534
Like I said, they were complacent in the killings. While only the woman killed Benny, the other mooks were quite aware of it and cleaning up the mess with no qualms and I doubt Benny was the only one.
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The art is what was a deal-breaker for me when I read Through the Woods.
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>>89780873
2nd one honestly looks like a nice babushka. not scary at all.
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>>89784972
>>89785041
>>89785188
>>89785373
I didn't like the El subplot because I think "evil human experimentation plots" are cheap and lazy and comes up every fucking time we have a meta-human.
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>>89785447
Glasses girl actually has a career now because so many people got attached to her since she died before she could become an actual character. Now she's on Riverdale and may actually be in contention to be Squirrel Girl. Meanwhile nobody gives enough of a shit about her friend to bother to cast her in anything else. So don't feel too bad

Agreed.
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>>89776480
I understood the head reference, but I meant the imagery of the monsters, like >>89774195 .

Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWczh2fxPk

It is just such a unique horrific appearance. You could reason most monsters or aliens as an evolutionary product or even a scientific experiment.

But the unnatural appearance, or the supernatural, that which cannot be explained, is so much more fear inducing.

So my question pretty much amounts to: How do people come up with this shit?!
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>>89785839
>I think "evil human experimentation plots" are cheap and lazy and comes up every fucking time we have a meta-human.
This. I don't mind if a government are containing meta-human, because they see them as a threat, or don't really know what else to do with them. But this whole "lel we implanted a child with super powers" or doing inhumane experiments on subjects, instead of mutually beneficial experiments, is fucking dumb. Why the fuck you you make a child into a weapon? And if you had to, why not make them love you instead of hate you?
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>>89762239
Anyone remember that heart-attack inducing Korean horror comic that was suddenly animated near the end?
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>>89779336

this is unsettlng
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>>89777979
ONE PUNCH!!!!
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>>89783942
Foreman did some real good work with the Rot and Buddy traveling between dimension.
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You know what I love? The guys who consider themselves horror experts and diss jumpscares
>ew jumpscares cannot POSSIBLY BE USED EVER because they're shit and primitive and "not horror" and they are just cheap manipulations of viewer/reader's primal instrincs and emotions
Let me remind you...
>gross out is a manipulation of viewer/reader's primal instrincs and emotions
>surprising plot twists are manipulations of viewer/reader's primal instrincs and emotions
>bringing in the unknown is a manipulations of viewer/reader's primal instrincs and emotions

Is there anything in horror that ISN'T a manipulation of viewer/reader's primal instincts and emotions?
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>>89786056
I 'membah!

http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue
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>>89786257
Those are all shit though.
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>>89786257
But two of those things require a lot of talent to pull off halfway-decently
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>>89786257
There are good jumpscares and then there are terrible ones that are extremely predictable and are more annoying than they are scary.
Guess which ones make into movies more often?

The Descent and Nightmare on Elm Street remake are some of the biggest offenders in the recent memory.
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Hey, /co/.
Are you food or are you sex?
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>>89786257
Jumpscares, like every other horror technique, can work, it all just comes down to execution.
Lake Mungo's only scene worth a damn
https://youtu.be/HNUfmV-ExTQ
And then there's that one from The VVitch with Black Philip that I can't find a link for.

Shitty directors just use them poorly because there's a quick payoff.
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>>89782655
Gerald's game was pretty scary though in an unsettling way
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>>89782542
The way shadow out of time is put together completely erases any horror value the original text may have held. Fun though
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>>89786317
>>89786418
>>89786504
Seconded. Jumpscares have their place, it's just that some movies/games are completely over-reliant on them.
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>there is an SCP Group of Interest now that are basically AWCY? but millenials trying to do something right
>they are using memes

Seriously, what is this.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1168
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How has no one mentioned this yet?

"His Face All Red"

http://emcarroll.com/comics/faceallred/01.html
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What are some comics that are like David Lynch's Rabbits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxKPBLjHAEA
Something mundane but very suspenseful.
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>>89762239
90% sure the one on the left is a fan art of an SCP with beksa influences

>>89762623
aw yiss. this kind of stuff is what sold me on the foundation

>>89780875
>>89780531
What I've seen from Kago is mainly visual. one of the big sells on Ito's horror is how he tells the story and how people act on his comics - not in the sense that they are very realistic, but they have a certain catch that makes it very fun to read.

People also forget a good chunk of Ito's comics aren't horror, just horror themed.

>>89783803
about what the fungi that evolved parasitically to the point they have specific chemical reactions that mind control ants to die attached to the back of leaves so it can spreads it's spores.

>>89783870
it's only effective if it makes you imagine yourself in the situation. it must give you time to immerse yourself it in

gore for the sake of gore a la Avatar's comics is just eye candy for the edgy.
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>>89787089
Nope. Still doesn't work. Gore is shit.
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>>89786257
My personal 'problem' with jumpscares it yeah, they make me jump I'm not going to lie but there's nothing more to them than that. Nothing about them keeps me up at night and I forget about them pretty easily. I much prefer unnerving stuff but this is all a matter of personal preference, enough people must love them to be used so much.
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>>89787043
One of my favorites
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>that feel when the last thing to keep you up at night was fucking DHMIS
Seriously, though. Fuck that clock. I didn't want to imagine myself getting weaker and rotting away with age when I'm trying to sleep.
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>>89787043
Good, but not very effective in a sense that his red face is already shown a couple pages before the big reveal
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>>89787346
First one got me a bit because it was unexpected and discordant audio triggers the caveman brain.
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>>89787346
The fifth one. Waking up from your reality to see yourself getting eaten alive by your friend? Jeez
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>>89787089
You should try reading Kago's works sometime then.
You say visual, but you don't know how RIGHT you are.
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>>89787043
I don't get it
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>>89787123
if my hdd with all my comics didn't die i'd storytime some pages that made excellent use of gore

>>89774195
lego robot did this right? always loved it. wonder where he got the idea because it really nice fantasy / surrealism

>>89785971
goddamn, i really need to read devilman. so much bizarre creative stuff

>>89774907
beksa would glass you if you called his artwork horror.

>>89780802
probably one of the first pics i ever saved from /x/

>>89782542
nice. thanks for trhe links mate.

when is the Void coming out?

>>89785499
there's a polish facebook blog that post rare beksas from time to time. stuff that hasn't been scanned before
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>>89780802
>So never stop wishing Flapjack, and all your dreams will come true.
>Even the scary ones?
>Ah hahahahuh YES!
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>>89769937
I loved that comic, didn't scare me though, but left me with a weird feeling.
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>>89784972
10/10 it's okay. What it lacks in originality it makes up for with good pacing
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>>89780531
Kago is extremely raw, not as friendly as Junji Ito's art which can be even cartoon'ish at times.

also, back before everything went to shit, we used to have junji ito story times in /v/, so a lot of people who don't give a shit about manga know about him thanks to that.

good times
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>>89774111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzUWKSYjpgQ
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>>89762239
Sub-Mariner The Depths is possibly the spookiest comic I've read. Very atmospheric.
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>>89762623
http://www.scp-wiki.net/unfinished-business-ii
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>>89783803
Dogs get worms that live in their hearts and eventually cause congestive heart failure.
There are species of parasitic worm carried by raccoons that eat your brain, it usually starts with the visual cortex.
Tertiary syphilis is your own immune system killing you and causing dementia, cardiovascular failure and destroying your bones. The bacteria in tertiary syphilis is usually not even present in your body anymore at that stage.
Anthrax can lie dormant for hundreds of years in the ground waiting for a host.
Rabies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZbrNN9KeUI
Sorry, no cure.
DNAviruses and Retroviruses can become incorporated into the DNA of your gametes and be passed to your descendants.
There are viruses that are parasites to viruses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_virophage
Plants have viroids as parasites. Viroids are even simpler than viruses. They are just a hunk of RNA and they don't produce proteins, or anything really. They are the most basic form of "life".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viroid
There is a plant that is a parasite to fungi that are parasites to trees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotropa_uniflora
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There was a 2000AD strip in which people were being killed in an abandoned building by window curtains. Actually the worst thing I've ever read, I don't think comics can be scary.
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>>89776235
Cavern horror is the best horror.
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>>89789602
Don't forget prions, which are basically proteins that fuck you up.
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>>89770195
>>89770149
>>89770149
Honestly this type of stuff terrifies me. It's some reverberating fear that yourself or someone you love could just...change like that. And you'd have no explanation of what they were doing and no way to change them back. Like, that mom was probably so scared and confused and worried for her children, and her family just becomes twisted and destructive and kills her. And she dies not knowing what happened that made her little girl into a monster and her last memory of her family is scary and disgusting.

Fuck me, how do you guys recover from a severe spooking?
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>>89789602
parasites a just nasty in general
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>>89790129
learn to differentiate between reality and fiction
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>>89783870
The Hellraiser comics had a few moments that were both gory and particularly unnerving.

The one that really gets me is the one where the blind pianist creates his magnum opus by embedding nails, glass, and blades into a board, and places music sheets around the board. He throws himself on the board to tear his body apart, then gets up and begins thrashing and dancing madly, so that his blood may hit the pages, thus "writing" his greatest work of music.
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>>89790263
Good horror makes the difference moot. I know that what happened didn't happen, but the emotions that horrifying stuff taps in me are hard to ignore or dismiss.
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>>89786056
>>89786297
That was the middle.
It's ok, I didn't have the heart to finish either. The sound and the fact that it kept scrolling with your frantic attempt to get away is what got me.
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>>89785966
That's cool.
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>>89762239
Just try and accurately reflect reality, without the comforting illusions. Every single thing that is loved will be lost, inevitably, and no one cares and nothing can be done.
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>>89785733
Well if you're content with videogames, the game Scorn seems to be a visual mixture between Giger and Beksinski.
>>89782542
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>>89785966
> may actually be in contention to be Squirrel Girl
In what? Are they trying to make a MCU TV show, or will it be in the X-Men movies/shows like that Legion show?
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>>89790388
Spoilers so I'm not derailing the thread. But there's apparently a New Warriors show on the table for the MCU on ABC (can't leave the flagship network out of the loop and all). Word is that Squirrel Girl is gonna be the focus. Though other rumors have suggested Kamala Khan will be in the mix because she doesn't have enough material to anchor a movie or show by herself
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>>89790554
Neat
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>>89774195
You know, I've always wondered. At the end, did he go back in time and steal his own cat back? Or is that someone else's house and he's just repeating the cycle?
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>>89782995

That was also one of King's problems. He said that Jack looked like and came off as a crazy asshole from the start.
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>>89773097
>>89762623

so what's the deal with 093?

bizarre alien technology? what's with the torso dudes? trapped souls or some shit? what about the gun? and the possessed technician who came back and went apeshit? or the agent from 1973?
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>>89769879
Reverse loss because she's shoving the kid into her vagina
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>>89762239
Moore's Swamp Thing is good.
And some of Delano's Hellblazer is fucking creepy. Especially "The Family Man" and "The Fear Machine".

Usagi Yojimbo also has some chapters that gives you that lovable chill down your spine.

I think the key to horror in comics lies in how abstract the medium can be. How you can create impossible lighting to set the mood, build the image in a way that just slightly doesn't make sense, take a characters expressions and features and give them a slight twist. It can be extremely uncanny.
In a way I think that's what Lynch tries to do in his films, but in comics shit like that almost comes for free. Sometimes you can see it in comics made by complete beginners, how their lack of skill can accidentally makes a page pretty fucking freaky.
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>>89762623
>http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-093
Would be nice if Touhou is classified as an SCP.
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>>89781079
>>89781069
>>89781063
>>89781053
>>89781042
>>89781035
>>89781027
>>89781018
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>>89781015
>>89781006
>>89780998
>>89780990
>>89780977
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>>89780965
>>89780960
I can't tell if this meant to be multilayered and enjoyed for some sublte ironic reason or not. Because on the surface it's pretty goddamned hokey. I would assume that during one of the many hours which make up the creation process the artist might say "Wait a minute, a weird little goblin child pulling a giant stick from nowhere and saying he loves to rape will just seem absurd and hilarious." And either give up or rationalize something different. Also, why did he stay at the excavation site for hours if he could get his truck started anyway? He just tried once and gave up. Why, because he's Depressed McSadboy?
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>>89773973
Uno Moralez. A lot of simple stuff like this so not a lot of narrative, but truly an artist.
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>>89791136

Like someone else in the thread, I took it as the guy just going crazy and slaughtering his own family because of financial ruin, the crappy truck failing to start on the first go just being the straw that broke the camel's back.
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>>89770966
I like this one, big cosmic horrors are the best.
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>>89785971
I think that animation is actually kinda funny with it evolves from a fantasia short to a animated heavy metal album cover with dbz attacks
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I remember an anon on /x/ was developing a game inspired by the works of Junji Ito. Can't remember for the life of me what the name was though. Anyone here know what I'm talking about?
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>Someone shows something they think it's scary
>"Nu huh it doesn't scare me" the thread
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>>89783951
That's a french comic, dude.
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>>89791534
Different things scare and bother different people or fill them with a sense of dread, and what that is always depends on their life experiences, how good or bad their nerves are and what they relate to.

Like the Lovecraft story "The Colour out of Space" was creepy to me but nothing bad, it however disturbed my brother and his wife a lot when they read it since they both live in a rural area and have two sons. So what happens in that story bothered them, and while they knows it's not real, the thought of it happening to them or the fact that they related to that family is what made that story disturbing and awful to them.
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>>89791534
>people having different opinions!?!? How DARE they!!
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>>89791846
Providing a different opinion is different from saying "HEY! My opinion is different and you're dumb for having an opinion that's not mine!"
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>>89791873
Where do you think you are?
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>>89791110
I guess Gensokyo or the Moon people could be classified as one, if they where able to detect it/them. Other than that Yukari could be one if she revealed herself, or Maribel if her ability was found out. It is actually theorized that some unknown group knows of her abilities from when she was hospitalized after being attacked by the chimera on TORIFUNE. She was moved to a remote facility in the mountains under the guise that she was suffering from an unknown virus.
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>>89791952
You're right anon. It's just exhausting sometimes
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>>89791952
Lol you just proved them right, can't even answer without memeing.
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>>89769312
Read Severed senpai.
Short sweet and spoopy
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>>89791973
You won't have decent conversations in 4chan, ever, unless you can somehow tune out the shit comments and that's a lot of tuning out.

In my experience the closest you can get here at /co/ is during midnight pacific time on a weekday but it's slow.
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>>89783951
>>89791788
Ancient is never said in the comic, but the demotic era which is named, was about 2500 to 1500 years ago, so 2000 years is a pretty good estimate.
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Pic related was incredibly unsettling and i took it for kind of horror. Kind of a lord of the flies story but much darker
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>>89791983
>Lol
>says other people can't answer without memeing
That wasn't even his argument to begin with, you fucking retard
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>>89774300
some people are scared of the unknown, others are not. I'm with you though, cosmic horror is basicly just as bad steam punk at this point.

slap some gears on Victorian clothing and boom, instant steam-punk.

slap some tentacles on that same Victorian clothing and boom, instant "cosmic horror"

its pretty lazy overall
>its eldritch, I don't have to explain shit
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>>89785661
The Furry Trap by Josh Simmons

it's a collection of his short comics. he does tend to enjoy a bit of gore porn here and there. Generally he uses minimal storytelling techniques and prefers creating a sense of foreboding over actual scares.
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>>89769926
This looks terrible nothing invoking the dread or despair just a screaming I guess screaming pillar.
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Proper Horror is conceptual, not visual. Unless if you're John Carpenter and have absolute mastery over your craft and the effects that go into your craft, and even then his most effective horror movies always have an unsettling twist to their monsters
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>>89767834
Ito has no idea how to finish a story. Everything is going well and suddenly everyone is flying around the planet because a giant hatestar licked it
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>>89762239
is that first image a red sea disk illustration?
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>>89793145
sorry I should have read the thread instead of ctrl+f
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>>89793170
That's ok, anon. You already apologized. You don't ever need to do anything more
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>>89793144
>it doesn't make sense for a predator to play with its food
>not even the last chapter anyway
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>>89791341
desert-game?
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>>89770087
I feel like if you want to make a good horror comic, there should be as less writing as possible
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>>89774972
>japs can't fucking end a story for shit

>"Your primitive Western culture simply can't understand the depth of Japanese storytelling"

neck yourself
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c'mon you guys, don't leave me

I'm scared
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>>89793812
Don't worry anon, there never where anyone else in this thread besides you.
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>>89793482
I never said it was the last chapter, just the point where it lost the horror and went nowhere.
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>>89793895
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>>89783981
If you want good dark souls comics you go on the fan art ones. I found a site that has basically god tier comics about dark souls.
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>>89784972
Well I hope they keep things fucked up
The second season seems to take ideas straight out from Bloodborne.
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>>89783981
Nah dude, Berserk is amazing
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>>89774329
>>89774364
>us nineties kids, huh?
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>>89780912
>storytime
Yes please. Please do one. Or at least spoonfeed me on a place I can read that manga for free.
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>>89787043
Holy FUCK
I knew I read this once but never remembered its name since, thank you so much
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Shit like Bloodborne is what scares me. Things we can't even begin to understand, things that aren't even evil, just so different from us, yet similar as well.
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Does anyone have good examples of works that have conflicting artstyles?
Pic is the only one I've seen
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The less information you have on something,the scarier it gets,thats a principle that works in any medium
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>>89780140
If anything, videogames have the MOST potential to be terrifying out of any medium. I was more spooked playing Fatal Frame 1-3 than I have with watching most horror movies. It, as an interactive audio-visual medium means that they're far more capable pulling you into them than a simple comic book, not to mention there's potentially far more ways to scare you.
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>tfw no game will ever present you with the truest of fears
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>>89794985
And scare you in different ways than you would be normally. I'm a man with a ballsack and everything and I still remember playing Haunting Ground for the first time and being terrified because some blank faced psycho robot bitch was coming for my fucking womb.
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>>89774300
These. Also it's my favorite of horror for these reasons
>>89776203
>>89776291
Keep in mind as well that part of the eppeal is that the whole eldritch being breaking you thing, especially when done really well comes down it it barely, if at all, actually doing anything. You "can't comprehend the true form" precisely beacuse it does...nothing at all It's just plain something you'll never understand being in it's presence of even just hearing a faint mention of it is all it'll take to drive you mad. When it does do something to break you, it's something that for it, is just normal. It doesn't actively want to make you insane that's just what happens. Imagine if you brushed your teeth or washed your hands and someone couldn't understand it and it drove them crazy. The abomination deosn't actively want anything bad to happen to you or really even care about you at all. It just happened to be doing something and it's presence, the very act, or both is something you couldn't handle so badly you just happened to go mad. Theres no real reason for it, it's just something that happened. No more unreasonable or different than the earth moving around the sun or you being able to breathe air or anything else in the universe that is/merely occurs
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm
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>>89795565
My problem is that it needs to take the extra leap of suspension of disbelief.
When I see Leatherface, I know he's scary. Just by looking at him, I know it immediately, and then the horrifying things he's doing reinforces that.
So many things just have to be accepted for that horror. I'm not actually going to mindbreak if I see it because it isn't real. So when a comic or a film shows it, it's kind of scary, sure, but it isn't anything that would actually drive me insane.
The stories just never convince me that it is actually as bad as it seems.
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what is the best SCP and why is it SCP 507
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>>89795565

at that point i just get like nihilistic/existentialist about it.

then again shit like the deep sea terrifies me so who fucking knows
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>>89795565
I think one of the stories that did Cosmic Horror the best in a visual medium is In The Mouth of Madness, exactly becasue it didn't show that much of the eldritch monstrosities, the protagonist wasn't even driven mad by the entities themselves but by the situation he had found himself in at the end.
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>>89778775
the monster on the sign is too cute, no way anyone could predict they are hostile from that, someone should sue

but not that guy
he's dead
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>>89795862
>then again shit like the deep sea terrifies me so who fucking knows
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>>89796049
I saw it
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>>89795895

>we will never get del Toro's adaptation

true horror
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>>89795895
>the protagonist wasn't even driven mad by the entities themselves but by the situation he had found himself in at the end.

That's usually the best kind.
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>>89770210
>>89770195
>>89770149
>>89770139
>Thread about spoopy
>posts a comedy
Well ok then
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>>89778748
Read up on TH Laurence and his theories on 'blood consciousness' if you really wanna frenzy.
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>>89794049
>I found a site that has basically god tier comics about dark souls.
Post it
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>>89789602
Nurgle's gifts come in many forms...
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>>89790808
From what I'm able to gather:
>Torso dudes: Former humans that reacted negatively to the substance brought to "Earth" by some unknown entity.
>The gun: Made from technology given by that same entity to fight a war over who would inherit the "Earth" in his name.
>Possessed agent: Some reaction to being exposed to the substance.
>Agent: Just an agent who used it in the past, but no idea why he knew of it with its proper clarification before it was supposedly discovered. Explained by the idea of multiple Foundation universes.
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>>89762239
So that's where all those legs in Lost Izalith came from.
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>>89796116
Yeah sorry; meant to spoiler it
>>89796100
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>>89774227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIofVFrHmX8
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>>89794985
>>89795190
>muh potential
And yet videogame horror is the single worst kind of horror out there, so that is unproven.
>there's potentially far more ways to scare you.
Nope. Videogame arsenal is extremely limited.
Good luck finding a game as scary as a Lynch's movie.

>Fatal Frame
>Haunting Ground
HAHAHHAHA. Opinion fucking discarded.
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>>89797618

is anything as scary as the story about Winkie's diner
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>>89770451
Then you've come to the wrong place.
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>>89767834
>>89780531
Anyone else like Fuan no Tane,Fuan no Tane Plus and Kouishou Rajio?
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>>89783855
I can't get into it. What am I doing wrong?
I hate Lovecraft, but I was told it's enjoyable even if I don't like his writing.
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>>89798201
...who told you that?

It's a perfect reconstruction of Lovecraftian tropes and genre conventions.
If you hate Lovecraft...leave.
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>>89798235
>>89798201
And I mean, leave because you won't enjoy it.
Not because there's "something to get".

It's Lovecraft.
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>>89797618
Video games are hard because it's so easy to push back on the limits of a system, and then they lose any sort of scary appeal they might have had.
I remember a video of this one game where this guy kept running over triggers for events, and they kept on firing, and the streamer was just cracking up. They might have been scary at first, but the whole system became a joke because you knew it was a game and death didn't matter.
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>>89774625
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>>89774329
>>89774364
If that's up your alley....
https://youtu.be/462KBuAhncU
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>>89778775
These guys would legit make good enemies in STALKER. Shame the sequel is never happening.
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>>89782542
Mind if I add this one to the list?

Sleep Walker (Short Film)
https://youtu.be/PQPo4s2OOzg
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