Favorite /co/ films?

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>>89761862
OP's pic related, The Hobbit from 1977, The Iron Giant, Asterix Versus Caesar, Tintin and the Lake of Sharks, Dunderklumpen.

>>89761964
Forgot The Journey to Melonia, that one's a must-see.

American Tail 2

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Beavis and Butthead Do America
Heavy Traffic
Mary & Max
American Pop
Triplets of Belleville

Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Tokyo Godfathers and Grave of the Fireflies sort of count i guess

>>89762034
Such a great li-
>Asterix and the Vikings

Why would you choose the by far worst Asterix film? Genuinely curious.

>>89762034
>Time Masters

do people really like this film?

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NIMH of the Secret.

Don made this reaction image btw.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2_oyGwdX14

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>>89762034

>>89762397
I've been meaning to watch this for a long time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgDpesd428

For a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is that most other batman movies feel like "Action Movie featuring Batman" whereas Mask of the Phantasm is actually about Batman directly. It's not some crime plot that the world's greatest detective finds himself embroiled in.

>>89763194
The movie is weird with its choice of themes, so expect the unexpected. Also, it's a little bit 2deep4u, mostly intentionally on the part of the creative team.

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Never had so much fun in an animated movie as this one.
It saved me from the bitter taste of that Muppets movie, and I loved how it sort of acted as a spiritual successor to Spielberg's Indy movies.

>>89764983
Will it make me feel 'funny' about a rat?

>>89765085
She's a mouse, but no, not really.

Here's my top 10:

1. Watership Down
2. The Wrong Trousers
3. The Secret of Kells
4. Wall-E
5. Spirited Away
6. Mary & Max
7. Metropolis
8. The Lego Movie
9. Ruka (The Hand)
10. Street of Crocodiles

Rate my taste please.

How come nopony mentioned The Good Dinosaur?

>>89765112
You don't want to cum on that mouse?

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>>89762644
Well, since this has already been posted, here are my top Disneys.

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>>89762359
I consider it an easier watch than Fantastic Planet and prefer it miles more over Gandahar.

>>89767527
Actually a pretty solid list. Throw Atlantis, Treasure Planet, and Frozen in there and its pretty much perfect

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>>89766645
10/10, great tastes anon!

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>>89765071
my nigga! i was gonna post tintin too!
i remember watching the show when i was a wee lad but my grandparents weren't to fond of all the drugging and shooting

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>>89761862

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Hot off the press bois! Currently binge-watching /co/ movies to fill in any gaps I may have missed.

>>89769776
Very good list.

>>89761862
Land Before Time.

Ignore all sequels yes even Chomper. It absolutely is not the same.

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In no particular order:

Brave Little Toaster
Rango
Thief & the Cobbler
The Hunchback of Notredame
Princess & the Frog
Iron Giant
And to be completely honest I'll lap up anything Don Bluth has a hand in.

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Just ordered Inner Sanctums. A collection on all the currently released shorts from the Quay Brothers. I'm so excited. It comes with plenty of special features too.

>>89769776
Maybe vuk the little fox?

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>>89769776

>>89762359
It's Moebius + Laloux, what's not to love?

>>89770998
It just feels rushed and incomplete. The characters are very forgettable, the pacing is uneven and the movie constantly loses focus trying to do too many things. The psychic guys are the only part part of the movie that seems thought through.

>It's Moebius + Laloux, what's not to love?
Fantastic Planet exists and is a much better realized movie desu

>>89771114
I'll admit, I have nostalgia goggles. We used to watch it on vhs when I was a kid.

Fantastic Planet is indeed brilliant, harder to approach though.

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>>89769776
>Sausage party high
>Rango only decent
Other than that good list

>>89769776
>Mean Girls but with horse humans
Careful you might summon him

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Shaun the Sheep: The Movie is my favourite.

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>>89769776

I'm not seeing The Tragedy of Man on here.

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>>89762397
Secret of NIMH will always be my number 1, but I got a nice hankering to rewatch >>89765071 right now

>>89769776
Congratulations on the list. It's very extensive. I really recommend you add Allegro non Troppo and The Tragedy of Man.

I also wanted to ask if you'd considered and decided against adding
Little Nemo's Adventures in Slumberland
The Point
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad
The Rescuers
Leafy a Hen Into the Wild
Fears of the Dark
The Painting
The Snow Queen (50's soviet version)
Sita Sings the Blues
Kirikou and the Sorceress
The Painting
Gay Purree
and The Phantom Tollbooth

>>89773998
Oh, and Tangled

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>>89769776
sjyst lista, n00b.

>>89770035
Thanks!

>>89770565
>>89772022
Never heard of these. I'll check them out ASAP.

>>89770664
Only missing a couple of these. I think. My elvish is a bit rusty so I don't know which all of these are.

>>89771200
Can't please them all.

>>89771349
The powerpuff villain or some anon?

>>89773998
>Little Nemo, Leafy
They have MAL entries so I put them on the /a/ equivalent. Leafy at least.
>Rescuers, Gay Purree, Tangled
Average. Rescuers Down Under is in there though.
>Ichabod and Mr Toad
Only seen the Ichabod segment.
>The Point, Fears of the Dark, Snow Queen, Sita, Kirikou, Phantom Tollbooth
Haven't seen these yet. I struggled to find torrents or streams for half of them last time I checked.
>The Painting
>The Painting
That good huh? I'll watch it ASAP then.

>>89774375
Va fan gör du uppe så här sent? Gå och lägg dig Ree!

>>89774916
No he who is triggered by purple dinosaurs.

>>89774916
Ah, damn, I didn't mean to put The Painting in twice. Don't get overhyped for it. I mean I happen to like it quite a bit, but it's not god tier.

>>89774916
Sita Sings the Blues is public domain so it should be easy to find. It's on youtube, at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QkYOqI3jSM

>>89761964
Was it done by the same people who did Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol? The designs looks similar to the designs during the Future segment.

>>89778449
So does Fred

>>89762466
https://youtu.be/bPq8VT7fx1E

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Is there a reason no one talks about this movie? Cause I thought it was really good.

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>>89762644
>kubo
still no rule34 of him

>>89779162
everyone loves mother 3

>>89774916
>the /a/ equivalent
Could you post it?

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Status report: Sita, The Painting and the Phantom Tollbooth were all good enough to make it to the high tier in the next edition. Nice work guys!

>>89781336
Ask and ye shall receive.

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>>89781541
There are some things I disagree with (Ergo Proxy, Gungrave, .hack//sign...) but overally it's good.

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>>89778449
>>89761862
>sexy.animated.horses

>>89761862
Who was responsible for the backgrounds of the last unicorn? It's always one of the things I loved the most about this movie since I was a child. I always like it when series or movies have some special kind of background style, I like this about SU as well.

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>>89781643
Dude, what you have posted is a outdated list, heres the up to date version of that list.

>>89782503
The animation was made by Topcraft which is the predecessor of Ghibli.

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>>89761964
>Dunderklumpen
Enöga did nothing wrong.

>>89782560
Very few people at Topcraft ended up at Ghibli (really just Toru Hara) almost all their staff ended up finding Pacific Animation Corporation when the rest left with Anno when he and others found Gainax.

And of course Pacific Animation Corporation later became Disney Japan/Spectrum when Disney bought out the company and added in a bunch of ex-Sanrio (Shigeru Yamamoto) & ex-TMS (Saburo Hashimoto) staff.

https://mega.nz/#!hopRzSpR!29Ax4JiFJT2K5nRWCReozv0E0T-YmH7AwLPHgYH3pro

>>89779162
It wasn't very popular on release, so most of /co/ doesn't know it exists. I liked it, even the extended ending which seemed to get a lot of criticism

>>89765071
Watching the trailers I was so put off by the uncanny valley mocap I immediately wrote it off as shit. But then I was gonna go to the cinema with some friends, but they weren't showing that much, so in the end I said 'fuck it' and we went to see this.

Holy shit what a ride. It really was an Indiana Jones movie but with all the charm of Tintin intact. The chase scene in Caraboudjan or whatever it was called is a fucking marvel to behold. I was even surprised the mocap actually looked better than I was expecting.

>>89766645
>Street of Crocodiles
I recognize the Quay brothers as artists, but man their short films really aren't my cup of tea. If we're talking stop motion art films I prefer Jan Svankmajer much more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zed9kIud5Y

>>89779162
There's not much talk because not a lot of people have seen it, and those that have liked it, so there's not that much to talk about.

All the Little Prince scenes were fucking perfection, the story about the girl and the old man was surprisingly poignant and fit the message of the original book. The controversial ending I thought was really weird at first, but I actually liked it once I realized none of it is real and the entire thing is pretty much her trying to fix everything by going the cliche "defeat bad guy and save the little prince", but in the end she learns that there's no changing the fact the old man and the flower are dying and that death is a part of life. It sounds really bad but is executed much better than I would've expected. Only bad thing was the little prince suddenly being an awkward stumbling loser played by Paul Rudd.

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>>89761862
az ember tragédiája since everyone is posting obscure shit

probably star wars with owls otherwise

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>>89761862
Don't lose your way
With each passing day

>>89781541
>The Phantom Tollbooth
>high tier
No offense to Chuck Jones but that movie is mediocre as fuck. Awful adaptation of the source material

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Absolute favorite film of all time right here.

What about short films?

>>89769776
>The Illusionist
>Only decent
I'm fucking triggered right now

>>89784189
Watched this recently and it was much better than expected. Using children as the VAs makes all the difference.

>>89784189
DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY

>>89769776
>Song of the Sea high
>The Secret of Kells decent
Well fuck you too.

>Mulan, Tarzan (!), Treasure Planet (!!) high
>Sleeping Beauty decent

>Anastasia, fucking Pocahontas
Seriously?

>Zootopia high
>Rango decent

>Le Grimdark Rabbits meme
>Fucking overrated Rene Laloux again

Holy fuck I'm fucking triggered.

>>89787046
>Tarzan (!), Treasure Planet (!!)
Sorry, meant to be "Treasure Planet (!), Tarzan (!!)" Not that it changes much though.

>>89787046
You forgot
>Cars decent
>Tangled doesn't even make the list

I disagree with you about Watership Down though, that's a good movie.

>>89787046
Song of the Sea got more of an emotional reaction out of me than Kells did which would put it higher up, but that's just my opinion.

>>89781541
>legend of the galactic heroes is not in high tier

your list is shit desu

One of my personal faves is Night on the Galactic Railroad, I even have a DVD from Japan.

>>89769776
Metropolis?

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>>89790974
>Five years of modern dance, six years of tap

>>89784810
What did the source material do better?

>>89785465
>>89787046
My charts has an uncanny ability to trigger people for some reason, and they're not even bait. At least you're taking it better than /a/, they went ballistic last time.

>>89788591
Sorry anon, only works better than Shitcom are included in the chart for now. If I'm feeling generous I could include it in an eventual decent tier though.

>>89792039
Metropolis is anime. Are you thinking of Metropia? That one was awfully dry without having good enough technicalities to make up for it.

>>89761862
The Iron Giant, Destroy-It Dan, Disney's Hunkules, Land Before Time, Watership Down, and You Are Umasou (it's not a fuckin anime, fight me)

Bakshit's Wizards

>>89792409
That's because /a/ is filled with elitists that have their heads stuck up their asses. /co/ might passingly call your taste shit but they won't completely sperg out like /a/. The problem with ranking lists is that everyone has their own tastes and if you rank a title they particularly hold deal much lower than they think it is then they'll feel a bit miffed. The Illusionist deserves to be higher than "decent" though.

>>89781541
>Clannad
Everytime I searched for the Irish band on youtube I got results for some anime.

>>89771349
Did you call me?

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>>89781541
By chance, have you considered the Sanrio films? They're actually Pretty good. The Fantastic Adventures of Unico, Sea Prince and the Fire Child, A Journey Through Fairyland, and Chirin Ringing Bell.

>>89794466
Unico was just okay. I considered Chirin no Suzu but decided against it in favor of Arashi no Yoru ni which I consider marginally better. Fairyland I'm very unsure if I've seen, I could be confusing it for some other movie I saw way back, either way I'd need to rewatch it. Sea Prince/Fire Child I'll give a try.

>>89792578
>You Are Umasou (it's not a fuckin anime, fight me)

>made in Japan
>by a Japanese studio
>with Japanese staff
>and Japanese cast
>based on a Japanese picture book

Whatever you say bro.

>>89794466
I looked up Chirin ringing Bell and it says it's Japanese/American production, so did some American studio fund it? Or help on some animation or something?

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>>89761862
Oh, she'll kill me one day or another. But she will remember forever that I caught her; that I held her prisoner. So there's my immortality, eh?

>>89795748
I think that's a great line. Definitely one of the more memorable in the film.

>>89769776
>EqG
What the fuck? I would never recomend that, not even as a joke. The FiM series sure maybe but those movies are _awful_ and only sell because of the brand and Daniel Ingram's music.

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>>89795233
Did you watch Fantastic Adventures of Unico or Unico and the Islands of Magic? Because they're pretty different but get confused often and Islands of Adventure isn't nearly as good imo.

>>89795868
I really like how the overall theme of the movie and the book is immortality and how the characters view it and experience it. Schmendrick being immortal until he learns how to master his method of using magic, Unicorn experiencing mortality and being the only immortal being to know mortal emotions, Mommy Fortuna's twisted idea of immorality. Pretty heady topic for kids, actually.

>>89761862
American Pop is flat my favorite movie. Now it isn't the best, it has serious structural issues and a few scenes really suffer from the rotoscope, but it is one of the finest pieces of americana out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSr7xNkL7D4

>>89792409
>What did the source material do better?
It would be hard to adapt the Phantom Tollbooth to begin with because wordplay is so important to the book. But even disregarding that, Jones's style does not work for a feature film.

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>>89781541
>no LoGH

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>>89782548

>>89780516
Not the Japs but their reasons are fair.

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>>89781822
Oh hi.

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>>89762034
>Felix The Cat

>>89782548
Didnt expect to see Rudolph on there, also had no idea it had Japanese helping to make it.

>>89769776
>Rock & Rule on decent
fuck you

>>89784189

YOUVE COME SO FAR!!

>>89761862
Only the fucking undisputed best on my list
>The Thief and the Cobbler my own personal edit lol
>Rock & Rule [Canadian Version aka Paul Le Mat a shit]
>Wizards
>American Pop
>Secret of NIMH
>Fantasia

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not just my favorite animated movie, but it's also my favorite movie period

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>>89797896
This should not have happened.

This shouldn't be a thing

neither should my boner

I. Did people like A Town Called Panic? I thought it was so absurd it was comical.
II. I don't want to watch "The Illusionist" because Chomet stole a bunch of money when he was going to make The Tale of Despereux & fucked off to use it on his own movie. Should I give it a chance despite this?

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>>89795748
Your immortality is shit! Shit!

>>89795868
I won't deny that the film has a great script with many great lines and VAs, my only beef with it is the Rankin-Bass animation/VA direction, it's just terrible.

I hope they do make that Live-Action remake of this and hire Ridley Scott or whatever to direct it.

>>89779162
Because the US release got pulled for some reason

>>89800890
Of course, it's great.

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>>89771349
You made me look
>(1-4)
Since when the hell did they make more?
Last time I was around the block the second one was about to come out

>>89801759
About yearly, they've improved markedly but I can't say I'm fond of 4.

>>89769776
>Sausage Party

>>89801882
>can't say I'm fond of 4
The first one is so shamelessly bad it makes me want to kill someone. I find it hard to believe they managed to do worse.

>>89802083
I wouldn't say worse...

>>89795748
>Not alone! You never could have freed yourselves alone!
>I HELD YOU!
>Celaeno descends and brutally tears the old witch apart

Shame they don't make heavy shit like that for kids anymore. Barely old enough to read and I absolutely loved it. It held me in rapt attention. The tap water Barney shit they peddle nowadays does not compare.

>>89802193
>Celaeno descends and brutally tears the old witch apart
You mean fades to black and flickers red while the corpses just lay there, or when Prince Jeff Bridges gets trampled by the Red Bull off-screen, because this is a film for babies.

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>>89802083
>>89802109
It was alright for the green that we got, but those two movies I saw were still pretty cringy
I can't stand that anthro look, even if it is just for a couple minutes

>>89802224
It was heavily implied that's what was happening, considering the noises and how long Celaeno lay on her, thrashing about with her back to the camera, her entire body flashing a sickly red hue. Obviously they can't show blood splatter and viscera flying everywhere, but they made it clear that Celaeno was incredibly strong and her talons were sharp, and they emphasized the violence of that death as much as they could get away with. That's the impression I got as a kid watching that scene.

Gotta read between the lines just a tiny bit I agree, but that's still a hell of a lot more than you'd see in a kids film today or in the past many years I think.

>>89802224
He did present the head of a dragon to the unicorn as a human.

>>89802293
It's not anthro though.

>>89802319
what do you call that wing and horn crap then?

>>89802300
I was going to disagree with you but nowadays everyone that ''dies'' in an animated film nowadays is revealed to be alive like we weren't expecting, or dies off-screen by falling or exploding in a non-gruesome manner.

Maybe it's difficult to animate blood and violence in a CGI film

>>89802359
I'm sure there's a word for winged people, horns too.

>>89802410
To be fair, a drawn out and violent death scene like Fortuna's wasn't exactly common even back in the old Rankin Bass days iirc. They really laid it on thick with how long they lingered on that Harpy working that old woman over, back to the camera or not.

Looking back I can't think of a lot of other deaths that were focused on the same way. So I may not be entirely justified in my nostalgiafagging.

>>89802580
You mean it wasn't common for Rankin-Bass to show that kind of stuff.

Even their Tolkien films all the deaths are toned down, even when there is no need for them to be, and the way they got around most of them is ridiculous, I get that Ralph Bakshi and Don Bluth or Nelvana were busy doing something else, but geez, Rankin-Bass?

>>89792578
You Are Umasou is great, but of fucking course it's anime, what did you think?

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>>89800527
excellent taste mon cheri

>>89783612
my favourite thing about the whole movie is it fucking *earns* a pg rating. PG films these days have no edge to them, they might as well be G, but tintin has always had elements that give it that sense of real danger
i hope if they make anymore films they'll incorporate the blue lotus somehow. if anything just to see tintin drugged up and wearing glasses

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im still emotionally reeling from paranorman.
i love laika's animation and style and the slight darkness they have in their movies

>>89804528
There's three films planned. The next one is supposed to be temple of the sun, I'm hyped for that. Not sure if they said anything about what the third one is gonna be about.

My top 5(non-anime) are:
Lion King
Secret of NIMH
Sword in the Stone
Robin Hood
Zootopia

>>89804537
The amazing twist and third act in Paranorman alone is already worth the price of admission. Absolute fucking genius.
>tfw they're never gonna release the music that plays during the finale

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>>89804698
as much as i wanna believe its still in the works it was meant to be out by december last year. its been almost 6 years
granted, jackson's been busy with the hobbit movies, but when was the last time either speilberg or jackson said anything about it?
luckily it seems to be getting revived a little with the soviet's colour release
i just want some fuckin answers man

>>89804778
Spielberg said sometime last year that Peter Jackson's working on a project at Amblin, and after that's finished he's gonna start on Tintin. The screenplay's apparently already done.

>>89804777
the twist of aggie?
i dont know why but i expected that for some reason
still broke my heart though

>>89761862
same here

>>89805104
screenplay leak when

>>89804528
>>89802410
>>89802300
>>89802224
What the hell, are you all measuring films by how "dark" and "edgy" they are? When did /co/ become so childish?

>>89805439
maybe because it adds consequence and thrill

>>89805439
its a comics and cartoons board it's childish by principal

>>89763194

First and only things you need to know before watching this is that the Blu ray/Netflix version is totally faithful to the actual masters and therefore the film looks REALLY messy and dirty at times, and, more importantly, you must get ready to pick a side when you finish the movie, because the ending polarises audiences harder than anything else I've ever seen.

Other than that, strap yourself in for a surprisingly hardcore talking animal story and enjoy.

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>>89761862

Might as well share a story about this movie.

So I recently made a friend and he's into movies as much as I am. After introducing him to a couple of pretty great movies, we did Zootopia and Song Of The Sea back to back, with SOTS second as a slow-down movie.

So he liked Zootopia a lot and my setup's pretty deluxe, so I put SOTS on and we both sat down in the dark with the surround sound going hard. Fucker went completely silent during the whole thing from start to finish, not a damn whisper until the film ended and I turned the lights on to see that for the last half hour or so of the movie he'd been crying like a bitch.

This guy's seen a lot of movies, but seeing him react so strongly to Song Of the Sea really put it into perspective for me just how amazing the film is. He gushed about the whole thing for like twenty minutes after, it was beautiful.

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Thought I'd put this here too, because god damn if this hasn't stuck with me.

Sure, it's by no means the best Disney film, but I love this film for its fucking weird tone and appearance. There's no other Disney movie I can think of that's as consistently gloomy and depressing throughout as this, neither can I think of a villain as simple and believable as Madame Medusa. There's no magic or bigness there, just a crazy bitch with a big gun who just abducted a kid.

From the opening sequence to the closing shot, the whole movie feels uniquely lethargic and sad with even a surprisingly sparse soundtrack and possibly the most scratchy and grimy animation I've seen from Disney.

It's not perfect; it gets positively maudlin at one point and the climax feels somewhat out of place to me, but in spite of that, The Rescuers thoroughly burrowed into my heart and it just won't shift.

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>>89761862
This gem right here. Probably the most underrated Pixar film.

>>89783890
HAHAHA FOOLISH SAMURAI

>>89761964
Did anybody outside of sweden see this? Hell it's hard to find people in sweden who knows about this movie, unless you're in Jämtland where we've all seen it.

>>89806305
Aku!

>>89805663
I definitely like it more than Kells, but I can't recall the film being that emotional, but maybe I should rewatch it, it's been a while. I'm happy your friend was so touched by it.

>>89761862
My Top Fifteen:

1) Fantastic Mr. Fox
2) Anomalisa
3) Princess Mononoke
4) Waltz With Bashir
5) Persepolis
6) The Lion King
7) Mary and Max
8) Kung Fu Panda 2
9) The Incredibles
10) It's Such a Beautiful Day
11) Spirited Away
12) Sita Sings the Blues
13) Toy Story 2
14) The Lego Movie
15) Song of the Sea

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The Kung Fu Panda franchise is the definition of "don't judge a book by it's cover".

Too bad you can barely discuss it here without the thread being overrun by furries god fucking damn it.

>>89807198
>Too bad you can barely discuss it here without the thread being overrun by furries god fucking damn it.
hopefully sometime in the future you can talk about it without the thread getting ruined, and you know what they say: better late than never

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>>89807220
There was a decent thread two days ago. First decent one in ages. That was fun.
Yes, I'm color theory anon

>>89800081
Yes, it was made by Mom Pro who did all of Rankin/Bass' stop motion projects.

>>89761862
Heavy Traffic, It's Such a Beautiful Day, The Lego Movie

>>89807377
>Yes, I'm color theory anon
Wasn't in the thread what was the theory?

>>89807198
2 is fucking brilliant, one of my favourite animated films. But yeah the name of the franchise doesn't work in its favor as far as people giving the films a fair shot.

>>89762359
Fuck you
T. Mœbius fanboy

>>89769776
>Heavy Metal
>Rock and Rule
>not in high tier

Oh fuck off

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>>89762359
Yes and no.

Yes, because it's awesome to see an animated Moebius movie and it's fun, pop sci-fi.

No, because it makes me realize how much the world fucked up by not making piles of Moebius films while he was alive. And the one that did get made clearly had a very low budget.

The comic relief twins are great, thoooooo

>>89807000
>I definitely like it more than Kells
Why?

>>89805830
But what about the sequel?

>>89761862
I want to fuck that unicorn.

>>89805848
Sorry but you are delusional, that movie was hyped as fuck and shilled even more after release, even at the Academy Awards. To say that it is underrated is just plain wrong.

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>>89808227
>Wasn't in the thread what was the theory?
You almost made me drop my soup.

>>89808227
Basically, every color used in the films has a specific meaning and every shot in the film can be analyzed by looking at which colors are used.
The thread is still archived I think
>>89723051

>>89808851
Well I'm a bit biased since I already love the selkie myth, but also I thought the animation was better, the visual style seemed more refined and the music was also better. They're both very good films, but I think Song of the Sea takes it for me.

>>89805254
Apparentaly Mouffat wrote the screenplay, though I am expecting Cornish and Wright to rewrite again

>>89808874

I don't like it quite as much for a variety of fairly small or nebulous reasons.

I think the most objective thing Down Under gets wrong is that certain elements of Bernard and Bianca's characters aren't developed quite right. For example, at the end of the first one, we see the pair going on another mission and Bernard - while still scared - goes along with it all because he and Bianca have gone through a whole lot together, but he seems to mysteriously reset a little to being the nervy guy at the start of the first movie, sans the superstition. Similarly, Bianca seems to neglect him just a little and while that works for the whole love triangle thing, it paints her as being a bit oblivious to Bernard's actions, in spite of the implied years spent together.

Beyond that there's a few more subjective points, such as the art. While the second movie definitely looks more impressive, CAPS and the artstyle they adopted for the sequel really did a number on the fur, making it seem like Bernard and Bianca are fuzzy balls of fine fluff, rather than having particularly weighty fur like in the first. Moreover the much more cheerful colour palette and artstyle strip the sequel of the original's more grungy and threatening look.
MacLeach is also a sticking point for me, in that while he's a fine successor to Madame Medusa, his plan and motivations don't quite seem different enough to Medusa's to make him much more than Medusa 2.0 and similarly he never quite manages to come across as quite as threatening, being more of a typical larger-than-life Disney villain.

There's also the general tone to consider as well, in that while the original was much moodier and relaxed, the sequel has a whole lot more energy and a fairly upbeat style all over, from the music to the voice acting. Again, super subjective here, but I really liked the original for just how much it wasn't that, how comfortable it seemed to be, to just be gloomy.

>>89810312

well shit, I maxed out the comment field, oh well, wrapping it up now.

The final point I have is that there's a couple of story points in it as well that I didn't like all that much.

While Bernard trying to propose and turning into a ball of nerves is perfectly cute and the whole love triangle bit is executed fairly well, I think it's just a little bit extraneous. I would perhaps have preferred to see the two of them working together closely and as a couple, without the proposal bit. Marriage isn't something I'm particularly against in movies or anything, but I think I'd just have preferred that they left them just as a couple or had them married beforehand because there's already a really nice relationship between them.

And the last bit I guess is that John Candy really didn't do a lot for me. Orville in the first one worked well enough; he's a bird, but he'd also an airline and the pilot at the same time, that's fine as it is. While John Candy did a really good job at voicing Wilbur, it feels like he's played up for laughs just a bit too much, with the dancing and such.

And that's it. sorry for going full autism on this, it's really just a whole heap of little things that hold Down Under back for me, rather than one big thing.

>>89781541
>Mobile Suit Gundam (Movie Trilogy)
>Movie Trilogy

Opinion invalidated. The Movie Trilogy is inferior to the series, decisively.

>>89802193
Keep in mind, The Last Unicorn was made around the time Care Bears and Horse Show Gen 1 were coming out. No matter what decade it is, you still have a few gems but mostly watered down shit to sift through in kids' entertainment.

>>89809147
Shit, that thread was a genuinely good one it seems. Really informative. (Nice to know that there are people that love that film as much as I do).

>>89810312
>>89810590
To me it seems like you dislike many of these things simply for being different from the first one. Then there is stuff like McLeach not being threatening enough which is just wrong and completely missing the point of the "love triangle": there wasn't a triangle at all, Jake never stood a chance with Bianca and she made it clear. He was just there to make Bernard feel more insecure about himself and take even longer to propose.

>>89807198

See, I like everything about kung fu panda, EXCEPT the panda. Po always comes off as just Jack Black being Jack Black, not an actual character. I watched all three movies and liked them, but I can never get around that problem.

>>89808851

Not the guy you're talking to, but I think Song Of The Sea has the edvantage for me because it ends more conclusively.

Secret of Kells was a great movie, but it just seems to stop at the end after being faced with two distinct climaxes. Brendan gets the Eye of Krum and the vikings invade and proceed to viking all over the place, but seeing as the movie had led up to that for basically the whole runtime, it's really weird that the film just continues and we get a whole catharsis arc.

By comparison, Song of the Sea ends way cleaner: Bronagh appears, Ben's relationship with Saoirse and his dad improves, Connor accepts Bronagh and Saoirse for what they are and finally moves on, as does Ben, and Saoirse sings. All of this comes together in the finale clearly and concisely.

Definitely not knocking Kells, but Song Of The Sea just has a little edge for me on the grounds that it ends that bit better.

>>89811016
It's all reposts. How long have you been on /co/?

>>89811422
>Po always comes off as just Jack Black being Jack Black, not an actual character. I watched all three movies and liked them, but I can never get around that problem.
Sounds to me like you're one of those persons who can't get over their irrational dislike for a certain actor no matter what they do, like many did with Robin Williams.

Top Ten from my gut:

Kiki's Delivery Service
Beauty and the Beast
The Secret of NIMH
Wall-E
Lady and the Tramp
Spirited Away
Tokyo Godfathers
Fantasia
The Incredibles
The Secret of Kells

>>89779266
do NOT lewd Kubo

>>89811418

I suppose you're right on that. I could have worded the "love triangle" bit better, but I couldn't think of a better way to put it.

Don't get to thinking I don't like Down Under though. It's still pretty great, but as you say,it probably just seems the lesser to me because it doesn't feel like the first one.

>>89811526

I've seen Jack Black in other stuff and not minded it too much. It's just in KFP that it seems a bit too much for me.

"Autistic-ly elaborate charts"-guy here. I never gave my very top favorites. They are Wall-E, Fantasia, South Park, When the Wind Blows, The Congress, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Waking Life, Terkel in Trouble and Fantastic Planet.

>>89795886
The movies being obvious cash-ins bothered me too but otherwise they're fine for more or less the same reasons the show is. Depending on how good the proper Barney-movie ends up being I may replace them for that one.

>>89795971
I've seen both.

>>89808564
Classical is the only acceptable /mu/ though.

>>89810892
>Being this wrong.

I truly hope you come to your senses one day anon.

>>89813514
>The movies being obvious cash-ins bothered me too but otherwise they're fine for more or less the same reasons the show is. Depending on how good the proper Barney-movie ends up being I may replace them for that one.
Just drop them already. If my 10 year-old sister thinks those are shit compared to FiM, you have no excuse.

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>>89814560
Do you count independent works?

>>89814809
Of course.

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>>89814560

>>89814560

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4RBmU-PIo

Oldie, but a goodie.

>>89769776
Mah nigga

>>89814560
https://vimeo.com/76129556
https://www.nfb.ca/film/neighbours_voisins/
https://vimeo.com/11551079

>>89805663
did you fuck?

>>89762034
Watership Down is a blight on animation save for the opening sequence and I do not understand /co/'s reverence for it. Martin Rosen honest to god had no experience in animation before making the film and damn if it doesn't show. There's no original thought put into the film and instead, opts to transliterate the novel's words in the most unimaginative way possible. The biggest shame of is that all of John Hubley's expertise and skill has been stripped from it.

I'm filled with disgust everytime I look at this list. It's obviously made by someone who values faux-maturity instead good craftsmanship.

>>89800527
Not a bad choice at all.

>>89802193
And thus does the truth finally come put. Barneyfag's crusade against ponies is because it shits all over his childhood love of The Last Unicorn and destroys the pristine edginess of unicorns forever.

>>89816583
I think he meant Barney as in "typical mind-numbing show for babies".

>>89816752

Man, nobody mentions that show except for the giant autist who will never leave. You don't use that show to describe anything because people will mistake you for him, and that's like being mistaken for a smelly hobo. Why would you ever want that?

>>89816931
We used to say "Barney" like that all the time and ther is no better replacement unless you can think of another show like that is just as well known and disliked.

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>>89816204
Nah, I've just always had a nostalgic soft spot for Watership Down because it was my favorite childhood film growing up. And seeing so many other people like it usually reinforces my positive feelings for it. I actually don't consider it all that "mature" and have more always thought of it as an appropriate kids' film that can be enjoyed by adults as well.

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>>89816752
>"typical mind-numbing show for babies"
Isn't that the type of language he prefers, though? Not to drag this off topic any further, I just think it's delicious irony if one man's incredibly ridiculous crusade against cartoon unicorns was because he feels they are a personal insult to another cartoon unicorn he loves.

But enough about Unicorns, let's talk about Unicrons instead. Certainly not the best movie ever, still for its nostalgia buck it is a /co/ staple.

>>89817375
But his personal crusade is against Barney, he just associates MLP:FiM with it for some retarded reason.

>>89817852

Are you sure it can't be both? Like that show is a case of Barney seeping into his precious unicorns?

>>89817375
>>89816583
I have never seen My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, so it's not my place to judge whether or not that's what I meant. And as another anon so aptly pointed out in response to me, shows like Carebears were airing around that time so it's not some bold new thing. Hell there were shows like that that I did like. It just seems like there's a lot more of that and a lot less films like The Last Unicorn, Secret of Nimh, or even things like Neverending Story or the Dark Crystal.

So you might want to stop jumping at every shadow. I don't know who hurt you, but sometimes a Barney is just a Barney. Are all you ponyfriends this defensive? And it's sad that one old lady getting gutted by a giant bird with tits is all it takes to get people to scream edgy like it's a bad thing. That's what airs mean, animated film is so padded and soft now. I just want balance.

Not that you don't have good taste, considering you posted Orson Welles' signature final role.

>>89818185
The idea is interesting but you really have no evidence for it, you shouldn't treat it as a fact.

>>89818325
>That's what airs mean
That's what I mean.

Friggin' autocorrect

>>89818325
>Are all you ponyfriends this defensive?
They are just memesters that ironically love Barneyfag, pay them no mind.

>>89818325

It's just a case of this one sperg spamming /co/ with that shit all the time. I haven't even been to /co/ in like a year, and he's still spamming and ban evading, in this very thread. I don't think that's "jumping at shadows."

>>89818185
>>89817852
I think it's probably wisest not to look too deeply into the yawning abyss of madness that is his years long quest to spam every thread he even loosely associates with ponies.

>>89762466
Ah man. While I much more prefer the books, I still like them both. They've very little in actual common but the movie had some damn fine visuals that have stuck with me since I was a child. Sure the whole magic amulet crap is a bit ridiculous, not even sure why they felt that necessary. No sense even trying to defend that.

>>89818417
Yeah I have no idea who that is, I am ashamed to admit. But judging by the reaction, not entirely unhappy. I only just started coming to /co/ again on a regular basis after a long hiatus.

>>89818487
>not even sure why they felt that necessary
It was just Don Bluth's idea of a mormon message (as he was recently converted then): science fails, miracles work. So it's shit, yeah.

>>89818496
You'd have to not be on /v/, /co/ and numerous other boards for years to not know who barneyfag is.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Barneyfag

>>89762644
I did not like How to Train your Dragon. What is the appeal of it? Hiccup is so damn annoying.

>>89818783
iirc that movie was new hotness around the time those images started being made. And the guy who made it bought into the hype

>>89818448
It helps that barneyfag was just active around an hour ago when someone set him off. Thankfully the entire thread got nuked.

>>89818606
Makes sense. It's definitely one of the worst cases of creative meddling I can think of given it was something completely outside of the source material that became the climax of the story and, as you pointed out, the message to the viewers.

>>89769776
Why Sausage party? Its really gross and not funny

>>89818840
Agreed. I couldn't finish it. It really wasn't for me.

>>89818783
>Hiccup is so damn annoying.
For my money, Hiccup doesn't feel like a character that belongs in the world he lives in. He feels like a modern day neurotic that's been dumped into a Viking village and has no idea how to adapt.

But supposedly this has been his whole life, right? Well I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that a guy can be that out of touch with the only culture he's ever known. And it's not like modern day shut-ins who have the Internet, he'd have to have been out there, interacting with everyone, doing all the same things because fucking dragons are attacking!

It's one thing to be inept at fighting, to have different ideas about things, but he acted completely clueless the whole time.

And supposedly he grew up believing his mother was killed by dragons. Wouldn't that give him some kind of motivation?

All in all, his personality is just too much at odds with the film's setting. I know they were going for anachronistic humor but I don't think it worked in this case.

>>89818819
It wasn't the new hotness, it was a sleeper hit. People just found it impressive for a Dreamworks movie.

>>89818783
The DRAGON is the main appeal, obviously. It's basically Stitch as a dragon.

>>89818325
>No, actually it's about edginess in children's cartoons
Clearly your lurking skills are so advanced you've somehow never encountered the man of legend himself in a thread or you'd have probably gotten the humor in the situation instead of taking it personally. This isn't the topic of the thread, though, so if you'd like to delve into the dribbling madness then enjoy:

http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/89813357

For myself, I wouldn't recommend it and hopefully the thread can drop the matter.

>>89818783
I've seen a good deal of hatred aimed at Hiccup just for Jay Baruchel, that he basically just portrays himself and that's it. This seems to become especially egregious when Hiccup has grown up and out of his more awkward phase. I don't know how widespread the view is, but I've seen more than once people wishing they'd recast him because Jay just cannot do any voice other than his own, so while Hiccup has grown up physically he won't as long as he's stuck with the same VA.

>>89820112
But Stitch was never the main appeal pf Lilo and Stitch.

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>>89820739
How can you be this disconnected from reality?

Why are horses so fuckable?

>>89815318
>https://www.nfb.ca/film/neighbours_voisins/
My nigga. The NFB has some real gems

https://www.nfb.ca/film/here_and_the_great_elsewhere/

>>89820473
I just don't think a little edginess, for lack of a better word, is necessarily a bad thing. But we treat it like it is. I loved Transformers the Movie as a kid, and by today's standards that would be super edgy. That may not be the best example though, as I believe that wasn't made with kids my age in mind when it was released. Same might be said for Last Unicorn come to think of it.

But why not? I still think there are kids out there that would love that sort of thing. But we act like there aren't any. I don't think it out of line to lament that.

>>89766764
>nopony

>>89820986
Clearly it was Lani.

>>89821134
To be "edgy" or -on the edge- means to step on boundaries, or that's what it would mean if it hadn't become synonymous with "tryhard" due to all the works that were mindlessly edgy in a poor attempt to be considered mature. It's not inherently bad, it's just been associated with certain bad practices.

Ironically, a very immature thing people do now is dismiss anything that looks "edgy" as immature without considering if it's truly edgy.

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>>89821134
For what it is worth, my use of "edginess" was just another joke. You know the whole bit about, "Actually it's about ethics in game journalism?" Not actually mocking you.

As for Transformers, some people of course thing the deaths were edgy then and now. Peter Cullen has sworn he'd never do that again which is probably why on those few occasions since when an Optimus he voices dies it is reversed in the same movie or episode. Others find it as horrible today as they did then, like the unceremonious revelation about Windcharger and Wheeljack's deaths. Personally I always found it amusing just from the perspective that for two seasons their guns barely did shit against each other and we've even seen Optimus ripped apart once and rebuilt into a robot alligator among other things, then suddenly in the movie the guns actually work to clear out the old toy characters to make room for the new toy characters, and then in season 3 they all set their guns back to tickle mode.

>>89821740
I feel the same way, but while I'm amused by it now I was pumped as all Hell back then. I loved the shift in tone, especially because the characters were familiar and suddenly there was a feeling of consequence, of finality that I hadn't experienced much before. I was more disappointed with Magnus getting tinker toyed back together than Optimus or Starscream dying.

But I get it. In general kids don't want to deal with that sort of thing. Most would probably feel robbed but there are those that feel enriched.

And I don't even think stuff like Land Before Time, the Last Unicorn, etc. is all *that* heavy, but I've even seen people complain that Brave Little Toaster was too mature at times for its audience. It's nuts.

>>89822105
>Brave Little Toaster was too mature at times for its audience
It deals heavily with existence failure and horrifying deaths (if the characters didn't just get better every time). Then there's that literal nightmare clown. Older kids and adults can shrug it off but it's easy to see how it can be a bit traumatizing to young ones who still have trouble realizing it's just a cartoon.

>>89762034
>rock & rule
nice, very nice

>>89784189
Do we have any confirmation this didn't slowly become a money-laundering scheme?

>>89787429
Song of the Sea is more emotional and has a more tightly-knit story than Kells, but Kells is much better if you understand the mythology/spirituality of it and can read between the lines.

>>89811422
You're reading Kells the wrong way and treating it like a standard fantasy movie. It isn't about the Vikings, it's about the creation of the book, which represents Christianity existing not as a sheltered and defensive community but as hope and knowledge to be spread throughout the world. When Brendan is in the forest both during the middle of the movie and in the epilogue the trees have a symbol of the Trinity etched into them.

I wrote a paper about this last semester and it got nominated for an award.

>>89800253
Don't throw it away.

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>>89822105
>Brave Little Toaster was too mature

>>89823401
Damn I loved that movie. People cite that scene and my favorite song, Worthless, a lot when they suggest it wasn't kid friendly enough. But when I was a kid I just found the whole ride fascinating, and I don't think it would have stuck with me as much without those elements.

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>>89823445
and come to think of it the Flower scene, too.

God, I get it, some kids aren't going to be able to enjoy that but damn it some can. Make a few movies for those kids too.

>>89823445
>I don't think it would have stuck with me as much
The part with the narcisist flower too. Unless you're a kid who's really into something as obscure as flower species, you'll never get the reference.
You just think "Damn that's one lonely flower"

>>89766764
Because it's a bad movie
Seriously, what the fuck was up with that ending? Some mongoloid randos show up out of nowhere, and Spot decides to go with them instead of Arlo and his family? After all the shit they went through?

>>89823516
Wow, I didn't realize that flower was a Narcissus. That makes a lot of sense. Huh. Yeah, I just thought the flower was sort of an analogy for how the appliances felt abandoned by the master and were going to look for him, but since the flower was rooted in place it was doomed to remain alone. Likewise with Air Conditioner.

I learned something I didn't know before and for that I thank you

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>>89805830
this nigga gets it

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>>89762644
The Tragedy of Man is a fucking Masterpiece of film.

Don Bluth is overrated, most of his films have shit story telling.

>>89828057
Anon is overrated, most of his posts have shit opinions.

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>>89828234

Second, I've seen this anonymous feller post shitty opinions all over this here board.

>>89828234
>>89828261
American Tail and Land Before Time are extremely disjointed towards the ends of both films.

Don't get me wrong I loved them when I was a kid and they are still eye candy, but story has trouble holding up.

...How would you guys feel if we had dedicated threads once a month where we all watch a standalone /co/ movie on Youtube and discuss it in one thread? Like, one month we do Adventures in Slumberland, another month Sita Sings the Blues, hell, even some semi-obscure stuff like Flatland. It would break up the monotony of shitposting and waifu threads if just for once a month.

>>89817040

Teletubbies?

>>89829238
I guess. Barney is always the first that comes to mind for me. I associate Teletubbies more with being bizarre, and that weird Tinky Winky controversy.

The Beatles' Yellow Submarine
Why haven't anyone mentioned this masterpiece.

>>89829075

I'd be down for that.

>>89829075
We used to do that all the time but for some reason mods when full-retard on it because posting links to streams is technically advertising.

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I never understood metamorphism behind this

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My pleby top 5:

1. Wallace & Gromit: The curse of the were-rabbit
2. The Hunchback of Notre-Dame
3. Wrinkles
4. Toy Story 1-3
5. The Iron Giant

>>89833883

>Wallace and Gromit: COTWR

that alone puts you in high tier for me.

>>89814560
>Genre and Wisdom Teeth
>Not Meaning of Life
Nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMsyOowMaEY

>>89829075
I'm a NEET so I'll do it if I knew how to.
Also, is there a lot of feathure films of good quality on Youtube? The only ones I know are
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL18B0CA620B61D076
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4564F110FF986371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lriMUwVluZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QkYOqI3jSM

>>89816204
read the book as a kid and saw the film in college. I think they did pretty good getting all the important elements into the movie. The animation isn't great sure, but it's still a damn fine story.

>>89762290
>Tokyo Godfathers
muh nigga

>>89805552
>polarizes audiences

it does? how exactly is that? something to do with Jenner's actions, or Brisby's?

>>89835186
Not hum, but I think he's talking about the magical amulet.>>89835186

>>89763495
"... my GOD"

>>89817375
I honestly don't think I've ever seen space animated in more beautiful, more sumptuous way.

>>89829075
I'd like that. Livestreams would be better, but unfortunately are banned.

>>89837640
Shut the fuck up, Lee.