What is the best iteration of the Joker and why is it pic related?

>>89752326

I haven't watched Gotham since the end of S2.

What the fuck have I missed?

Jerome was dead. They brought him back to life. He got his face cut off and he stapled it back on.

>>89752392

What the fuck?

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>>89752326
kys.

THIS is the best Joker, bar fucking none.

>>89752414

You think I am kidding. Look closely at the pic.

>>89752326

>literally the only good scene in the entire S3 so far
>it's about Batman

It's almost like focusing on Batman is more compelling then literally the least interesting version of James Gordon in all of media history.

But Gotham fans will complain that it's all NOT MUH fanboys instead of this version of Gordon being unwatchably boring.

You can't compare Jokers because they are designed for vastly different genres. 60s Joker was a comedy villain. 90s Joker was a grimdark comic book villain. Heath Ledger Joker was a Hollywood blockbuster villain.

It's like saying, "Who's a better character? Bart Simpson or Dracula?" They're from completely different periods, mediums, and genres.

>>89752452

I'm not doubting what you said. It's clearly evident in the image.

I'm just in utter disbelief in that it actually happened.

>>89752875
The insane retard Harvey almost killed from The Dark Knight was obsessed with Jerome and bringing him back to life, so when he failed he cut off Jerome's face and put it on his own in order to try and appease his followers, but actually Jerome did come back to life....in the end he wasn't happy about having his face cut off

>>89752367
To say "a lot" would be a massive understatement.

Better question, if we combined every cinematic joker along with ceasar's joker and jerome, would we finally get a result most could call an agreeable live action joker?

cutest also he channels every iterations ever
he's a masterclass in acting
the kid will be a star one day

>>89752326

So holy shit... I've only seen 2 episodes of Gotham so far, and it's a little cheesy for my tastes, but after looking this up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28avlidGi4

It seems pretty great. Can I expect this level of quality soon?

>>89752326
>not Snickers Commercial Joker

>>89753347
No, Gotham takes a while to start getting good and certain early storylines are boring but honestly it's worth the watch for once it starts getting good

>>89753347
The first season played it more straight.
It wasn't even until season two that you had any real supervillainy.
They really eased into the full Gotham madness experience.

So is Gotham like Gotham Central at all?

Or did they completely miss the opportunity to do that?

>>89753482
Season one came closest to that. Then things began to focus more on Penguin's world.

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>>89752367
Jimbo punches faces off now.

>>89753651
holy fuck, that's creepy and hilarous at the same time!

>>89753829
Brucie boy gave him worse. No webms of it floating around though.

If Joker is assraped in the forest and no one's there to hear it. Does he make a sound?

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>>89753651
>>89753829

Reaction is priceless

>when people said Gotham was ashamed of being a comicbook show

>>89753651
Gotham is the weirdest thing. It is absurdly gore, but so cheesy that downplay the effect.

I remember seeing in one episode a family of freaks decorating their house using a half-rotten decapitated human head.

>>89754083

Gotham manages to handle the cheesiness of Batman and Robin well with the dark tones of Nolan's trilogy. I'm honestly surprised about this.

>>89754126
its way more fun than I'm having watching any other super hero show

>>89754051
At the very start it was ashamed of being what it is, but from what I've seen from promos and such it just stopped caring

>>89754218
I don't think it was ashamed at all. I think they were just adapting the Year One-style progression from organised crime to costumed crime.

>>89752326
that's not Frank Miller's Joker.

>>89752761
This is why you need to put Joker into one of three categories.

Malevolent trickster - Like The 60s Joker

Clown prince of crime - The 90s animated series and Suicide Squad

Agent of chaos - Dark Knight Joker and Jerome

Every iteration of Joker can fit one or two of these. Hell I would debate the animated series from the 90s floats back and forth from the Clown prince of crime and the malevolent trickster.

>>89754292
yeah, if they were ashamed they wouldn't have had something like fucking Balloon Man as the zeroth supervillain

Gotham's surprisingly good.
Wish there was an episode of Bruce freaking out about bats. Or learning how to throw ninja stars.

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>>89755002
I'm frankly sick of 'bruce freaking out about bats' scenes in adaptions of late. it's time to go back to a single bat appearing at the pivotal moment and Buce recognizing it as an omen

>>89752326
Joker from The New Adventures of Batman is the best and most hilarious.

>>89754039
That ain't the face of someone who got used to the shit he has seen

>>89752326
Is that Ian? that's amazing. But this show sucks.

>>89752326
God, literally the worst Joker of all times.

Why does he try to ape Ledger so much with the voice? The only times he doesnt imitate Ledger is when he tries to pull a shitty Hamill impression. And fails. Miserably.

Literally the worst thing of S3

>>89754773
What is this Joker?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etst4t3ES8Y
Yeah, I know it's the same Joker as BTAS, but it represents a different kind of characterization than just "clown prince of crime".

>>89757944
>Hell I would debate the animated series from the 90s floats back and forth from the Clown prince of crime and the malevolent trickster.

I said in the last line he does have moments where he goes back and forth.

You could argue that Leto's Joke goes back and forth from agent of chaos and Clown prince of crime.

>>89753375
Bizarro Joker and Zibarro should be friends.

>>89752392
Glad they decided to explain why Joker never dies.

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>"come on hero fight me"
>Bruce tackles him from behind
>"what kind of hero attacks from behind?"
He may just be doing a heath ledger impression but I cant hate a fun live action Joker.

>>89760977
I find him more Nicholson

>>89752326
Jack Nicholson Joker followed by Hamill Joker.
>>89753651
This would be cool if the face mask effect didn't look like shit.

>>89759985
Leto's joker didnt make any jokes

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Patrician Joker coming through.

>>89753375
poor guy

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>>89760977
one who understands what has to be done

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Not as creepy as when his detached face in the comics, but a solid effort.

Is this show still worth getting into?

The first season has been hard to watch at times (although I did hear ahead of time that the first season just kinda has to be chugged through), especially anything involving Mooney. I'm probably a little over halfway through.

>>89752875
Kek, Gotham is on LSD. It's the most insane show on air.

>>89761761
The writers have been keeping Fish's presence on the series minimal. Feels like they even abandoned a plot they had prepped at the end of S2 and substituted it with a similar freak making trigger just to get her out of there at the start of S3.

>>89755002
>>89755071
Season 2 finale: Bat crashes through Bruce's window

Season 3 premiere: Bruce leaves to travel the world

Season 3 finale: Returns ripped and ready to kick ass.

Do you think Gotham will go the three Joker route Rebirth is doing? I could see them having three different Jokers in the show.

Geromeker
Red Hood/Killing Joke Joker

Who would the third one be?

>>89763180
Nah.
Just stick with Jerome and slowly skew the show to have Bruce and Jerome mirror each other in their journeys.

I'm so glad people are finally seeing this shit show for what it really is.

Smallville syndrome all over again

>>89763277
There's really been no change in perception over this show since early season 2

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>>89761371
>>89754741
Absolute patrician taste.

>>89763326
Bullshit.
I saw a shift in the opinion of the show by posters here the second Jerome cut off his face.

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>>89752326
I agree.

>>89763377
Not really.

Vastly more posts about how shit the show is.
Most of the threads outside the talkbacks are about how shit it is.

And I'm saying this as someone who thinks the show is pretty good.
We don't get a lot of traction here.

>>89763428
not your replyee but I've hated that show since ep1. and to this day it's still the only episode I've ever seen, trash show.

>>89763456
That's a given.
The pilot fucking sucks.

But by episode four we were in the amazing madness of the Balloonman, the Spirit of the Goat, and Venom...I was in for the long haul.

And it really hasn't let me down since.

I take it Gotham's actual Joker will mimic Jerome's behaviour and mannerisms to use to frighten people considering how famous he was.

>>89763518
Jerome's alive, in Arkham, and the showrunners seem to like the idea of introducing Harley.

I say let's face it...he might be it.

>>89763492
all of that sounds just awful. just because you wasted 4 hours of your life doesn't mean you need to waste even more. drop it now.

>>89763550
Well, it wasn't awful.

Balloonman himself was really great.

>>89753829
>holy fuck, that's creepy and hilarous at the same time!
that's basically a nice summation of the entire series.

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My personal favorite.

Has there been a villain more than Hush who has had his origins fucked over in this?

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Best Joker coming through, bitches!!!

>>89761692

Gotta admit that I love Snyder's Joker too.

>>89763090
> he's 14 by this point

>>89764038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBQetJqAwk

>>89753651
kekd and saved

>>89754039
>mfw the face is off the face

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I, GO LOONEY

>>89752326
>tfw I just marathoned six seasons of Shameless and didn't figure out Jerome was Ian until just now
Holy fuck

>>89763332
>tfw we will probably never see him again
just die in my fucking sleep already

>>89752326
>>89761692
I remember when /co/ thought this was edgy garbage. What the fuck happened?

>>89767173
/co/ saw how terrible the current Gotham episodes are and felt it's not worth making fun of anymore.

>>89767216
So it's become so bad it's good?

>>89767235
Actually, it's had a pretty standard fanbase since early season 2.

How many season have gotham?

It actually worth it to watch?

>>89767265
Pilot is complete shit.
Season 1 has a good Penguin plot, mediocre Gordon, shit Fish.

Season 2 goes full on Adam West meets dark aesthetic crazyiness.

Season 3 was a step down, but the Jerome episodes were pretty fun

>>89767301
Season 3 is more interesting with for the 2-3 episode villain arc episodes.
Fish was boring as usual
Tetch was fun
Judge Thing was okay
Mario was stupid
Jerome was great

Riddleman is gonna be great

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>>89752326

Is Ian off his meds again?

>>89766468
i'm honestly offended by how bad this was

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>>89763840
also an underrated Batman

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>>89752326
and now his face is cut off and sewn back on.

The fuck is up with this shit series.

>>89765205
That wasn't even a scripted line. Jack just randomly said it and everyone was too scared to do anything about it.

>>89767173
there's a new writer on Batman so now the Snyder hate meme is dying

>>89753999
Wait, is the person assraping Joker deaf? Does Joker not hear it either?

>>89772892
Do you know what earplugs are, Anon?

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>>89773092
>Raping the Joker
>Listening to Nirvana while doing it
>Joker knows you're doing this

So how did the Joker go from "My face is barely held on with tape" to Now I've perfectly blended into society enough to hold a job & pretend to be friends with Batman?

>>89773750
where?

>>89752681
Seconded. Morrison Joker is GOAT Joker

>>89752761
Bart Simpson is better than Dracula. Dracula is old hat. Bart is also old hat. One of the two is still watchable. It isn't Dracula.

>>89753651
Did he deglove the face with his punch or did he already have stitches and it tore them?

How the fuck could you deglove it with a punch?

>>89774518
he un-stapled the staples with his fist, somehow.

>>89771023
What if I told you there's a dub of a Killing Joke floating around on YouTube that does that song a 1000x better?

>>89753651
Never liked the face-off Joker from the few comics I read with it, but that webm is acceptable.

>>89775273
you can't just say something like that and then not provide a link, anon.

>>89753347

That is really over the top ham acting. Is the show tongue in cheek about itself?

>>89752326
You have shit opinions

>>89775712
Starts at 28:25
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dO0hNziyAs0

>>89752326
>A whole thread built on this bait

>>89752326
Isn't that the edgy gayfaggot who fucks men on that Shameless show

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>>89776506
You might want to stop watching capeshit if you're worried that an actor might have played a gay character once.

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>>89764038
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>>89752326
>What is the best iteration of the Joker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lLF_PkurO8

>>89752326
>Gotham is Batman without Batman!
>OK, so we're following the origins of a few major players in Batman and early Gordon, ok
>Penguin is cool
>Nygma is up there
>Get annoyed that they will pull out Joker this early in the show and with Bruce
>Gets killed so it was a fake out but ok with it
>Bring him back and make him 1:1 Joker even with the sliced off face
>It actually isn't bad for a tv show Joker and liked the circus ring outfit for proto Joker
>They're going to have to kill him off again or just make him into Joker in the future

>>89773750
Because there's two other Jokers.

>>89752326
I thought he was dead

>>89773750
he died and got resurrected by some stuff, like it happened to Batman

Batman lost his memories and had a new brain, Joker was healed and was just a normal guy

they are not friends, they met once

>>89777692
Eric was showing up relatively often is what I mean. Dare I even ask how he managed to resurrect himself?

>>89777768
wait you meant when he was undercover and posing like that guy, I thought you meant after Endgame

>>89777843
Naw, I mean when he fell off a cliff in Death in the Family, then showed up suddenly with his face perfectly fine enough to blend in.

>>89752326
He's honestly way better than he should be but I wouldn't say best.

>>89777870
yes, that's when he was "undercover"
he still had his fucked up face he just was taking drugs to relax his muscles so his smile wasn't there and other stuff to look normal
it's explained in Endgame

he fell from the cliff, almost died or died, fell in the river and the currents brought him a cave with this dionysum stuff that is pretty much a better version of the lazaru's pit so he got cured and got his face back

>>89777967

I feel like Death in the Family was SUCH a waste of time. All it meant was "Oh! The Joker's back! No he isn't" & all he did was Punk out Batman & leave, leaving nothing but a mild emotional tension between them, which disappears.

>>89769293
Bruce just needs to rape the Joker

>>89778015
Well, Alfred lost a hand. Just, you know, not for very long. Or did that happen in Endgame? All of Snyder's Joker stuff just kinda runs together for me.

>>89778015
it was just a "game changer" that didn't change anything

>>89767173

It's still garbage in the comics, because it was played straight.

The show treated it as being as silly and dumb as it is.

>>89778015

It was also supposed to estrange Bats from his proteges, which ultimately also meant nothing, since no real change occurred from how they always acted.

>>89753347
Just wait for the beauty which is Balloon man

>>89752326
>What is the best iteration of the Joker
None because The Joker is a shit character.

>>89756748
You can see some shit and still get icked out when you literally punch someone's face off.

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Does family count?

>>89778340
Yeah, but it didn't & frankly, I'd think like "You think I had a CHOICE?! I mean FUCK! It's THE JOKER!":

>>89774518
Jerome died
Misguided follower tried to revive him
Failed, so he cut off Jerome's face instead and wore it to guide the other followers
Jerome woke up on a slab
Jerome got his face back, stapled it on
Gordon punched it back off

>>89752326
This board will obviously shit on it but I agree.

Because Crazy Gotham is the best Comic related show on Tv.

>>89776856
Oh man I remember you from the last thread and I still miss good Kamen Rider existing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBWRHUVH3Z4

>>89753999
Jim get out of here

>>89780365
What's with the foreskin crown?

>>89763550
>Stop it, stop doing what you enjoy right now!
Usually shitting on this show is all you'll see but posts like that are always hilarious

>>89763518
I know Dwight was nothing but a poser but he is still solid proof that imitations get nowhere. He would have to be a normal maniac who just happens to to wear clown makeup or else no one, not cops, whoever names him, or the general public will accept him as his own guy no matter how much destruction he caused.

>>89780721
I believe it was a whoopee cushion.

>>89777151
Or just have him/a follower break him out after a while and after one or two big disasters he caused fights Batman for the first time that ends with him falling and assumed dead. The bleached skin makes him giddy because he has a new role to play and his own costume to match Batman's.

>>89779433
Bruce did it first. Jerome took the time to staple it back on before going after him again. I'm not sure if this sounds any battier out of context than in it.

>>89752367

Same. Lol did they bring him back? I thought it was incessantly dumb to kill off such a talented actor from the show so early.

>>89780980
Now this is full comic stuff, and by that I mean no one dies, walking experiments and evil clones fucking everywhere.

>>89767372
You forgot

>Poison Ivy was sexy

>>89783223
With a child brain
I laughed at the 1000 dollar line

Too bad she mostly fucked off, just like how they always treated Ivy