Top tier comics

>>89710109
Other Moore comics?

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Nexus

>>89710131
I've read thus far from Moore:
Swamp thing
From hell
League of extraordinary gentleman
Watchmen
V for vendetta
Collection on his D.C. Work (whatever happened to the man of tommorow etc.)
Have I bled him dry?
Also some other writers would be nice for the variety.

>>89710188
Thanks! Tell me more!

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>>89710109

>>89710241
Providence, Top 10, Tom Strong, and Supreme

>>89710241
>>89710414
And Promethea.

>>89710357
Whoah that helps, personal favorites?

>>89710275
Well, if you're interested in space operas, then this book should definitely be up your alley. The main character isn't treated like he's the center of the universe, the story is always moving, and pretty much everyone in the comic has their own agency. The comic is mostly drawn by Steve Rude, who is fantastic with his paneling, his composition, and you can really see that as the story goes on that he continues to get better, and coupled with the writing of Mike Baron, you'll find yourself reading a comic that is being made by two people who sincerely love what they're doing and show it by giving it their all.

>>89710536
Promethea?

>>89710517
>Cerebus
>Legion of Super-Heroes
>Unflattening
>Corto Maltese
>Madman

>>89710517
Well, it really depends what you like. Do you prefer stylish action? Fantasy? Historical fiction? Pulpy detective stories, perhaps?

>>89710649
I like pulpy detective stories, sci fi, y: the last man was a little lackluster for me if that says anything. I Really like high-concept cerebral stuff. If there's some real feels or potent romance mixed into a genre comic then I'm in heaven.

>>89710241
Read X-Men Archives: Captain Britain issues 1-7, also by Alan Moore and Alan Davis.

>>89710649
But I was originally asking if that description was in reference to promethea.

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Are there any Shazam (captain marvel) comics that are high-concept or aimed at a mature audience that I can read. I really like the character but all his comics are so basic.
I just asked on /b/ but I doubt they'll have any answers for me lol.

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>>89710649
Give me some pulpy detective stories. I read an issue of vigilante that Moore wrote and really liked it, should I delve deeper?

>>89710918

Sounds like you should really check out Hellblazer, if you haven't already. The character of John Constantine should be familiar to you from Swamp Thing, and this is his solo series. Part grimy detective fiction, part magic and demons, part British social realism.

>>89711103
Miracleman is a Captain Marvel comic aimed at adults.

Incal and Metabarons

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>>89711212
Yeah I'm reading hellblazer right now, loving it but it's kind of an in between comic for me because there's so much. Would it be okay if I skipped a couple books and read the run that Warren Ellis did for it? Or is it important that I read chronologically.

>>89711240
Yeah I know, but it was originally just captain marvel aimed at the U.K. And D.C. Has had plenty of one to make a captain marvel of substance.

>>89711103

Protip. High concept means simple pitch along the lines of "Shazam fights Godzilla". It doesn't mean "mature and complex", in fact it basically means the exact opposite.

>>89711334
Are there any comics where he fights Godzilla though?

>>89711182
Yes, read the whole thing.

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Gruenwalds Squadron Supreme

>>89711103
The Whiz era is the best stuff, though it's aimed at kids, though a mature audience can appreciate it.

>>89711297
Delano and Ennis are the "important" runs

>>89711282
Yeaaaaa that's on the listtt

>>89711397
Well one of his primary antagonists is the Monster Society of Evil so make of that what you will

>>89711410
Sweet, I'm really happy to get that confirmation because what I read felt so interesting

>>89711483
who caressss

>>89711334
Oh that's intersting, I work in film and we never use that term to describe something like alien vs predator haha. Like the sci-fi films that are in highest demand right now are "low-tech, high-concept". Like being John malkovich esque films.

>>89711583
Aw kitty, who hurt you?

>>89711715
wow rude

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>>89711182
Sin City is a classic in that genre. At its best, it's pure testosterone put to paper - hard men doing hard things in a nightmarish film noir setting. Miller's artwork is generally a love it or hate it kind of affair though. I happen to be in the former camp.

For a more classic approach, try Blacksad - a more lighthearted take on the genre, while still being very well-written and occasionally moving. Don't let the anthro characters put you off, and give it a chance.

There's The Spirit, of course. Definitely more to the comic side of the scale, and fantastically charming. Classic pulpy "two fisted tales" stuff.

That's just the essentials, though. You can also try things like
>Fatale
>Fell
>The Goon
>Torpedo
>Scalped
>100 Bullets

>>89711752
You'll survive big boy

>>89710109
Have you read Silver Surfer: Requiem? You should if not.

>>89711883
Anything With some real feels? But not like slice-of-life Blankets type shit. Superman: a man for all seasons makes me cry real tears.

>>89711972
Thanks I'll put that on the list, I used to read the essential as a kid but I don't know where to start now.

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>>89711975
>Anything With some real feels?

I've got the thing for you.

>>89711975
Sin City has a lot of tragedy

>>89712056
I've never heard of this either, looks right up my alley, anything else?

>>89712056
Goon itself or this one in specific?

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>>89712206
That particular one, but it'll be a lot more impactful if you preceding issues first.

>>89712133
Well, it depends what you mean by "real feels". If you mean "genre comics with a certain level of emotional impact and tragic characters", then things like The Goon and Sin City is what you want. If you mean "weaponized depression", then Chris Ware is your man.

>>89711182
Read Stray Bullets. It is the pinnacle of crime comics.

>>89712563
Thanks, you guys are filling my list right up

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You read any Grant Morrison, OP?

>>89713493
Only the mainstream D.C. Stuff. I've been meaning to read the invisibles but for some reason everywhere I go is sold out of the first book. I'm assuming it's worth the read?

>>89713669
It's pretty neato

I think they're reprinting his Doom Patrol right now if you want to give that a look

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>>89713669
Oh, sure. It's pretty fucking weird, though.

>>89710109
Its my all time fav, my other favs being Moores Swamp Thing, Lemires Descender which is ongoing, Hellblazer if you like Sandman and Swamp Thing, Simon Spurriors Down Legacy (terrified of the show) and most things by Brubaker and Philips are pretty great

>>89714436
You mean xmen legacy?

>>89714806
Lmao yea, auto corrected

>>89714436
Where should I start with the brubaker and philips? There's so much to choose from

>>89713669
just get the deluxe

>>89714855
Fatale is great occult shit that has some length. Fade out is a fun noir-ish story that's only 12 issues in length. Criminal is fucking GOAT but its a long, wild ride. Their ongoing kill or be killed is shaping up really well too. You really can't go wrong with any if them though

>>89714932
Word I'll start with fatale then, although long doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't start milking and get stagnant

>>89710109
>proto-SJWshit
>by a literal cuck
>top tier
I want /co/mblr to go away. Miracleman starts by building up a character with godlike powers and the ability to impose his Will on the world, but what does he do with it? Disgusting. Sad.

>>89714999
Criminal certainly doesnt get stagnant but theres some parts that shine much brighter than others. Lemires sweet tooth and moon knight (on going) are also great, as is trillium if you want a short but fun read. Two other short but fun comics that are Miracleman esque are Silver Surfer Requiem and In Thy Name

>>89715041
>Builds a Utopia that will inevitably fall

I think you're missing the points that are made

>>89715041
Aw Cutie

>>89715041
And I want /pol/ to go away. We are here to discuss if a comic is good, not about it's politics.

>>89710109
Just finished reading this last week and it was amazing.

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>>89710357
>No Animal Man

>>89715041
>what does he do with it?
Impose his will on the world?

>>89711685
That's pretty amusing because its exactly the opposite of the actual definition. High-concept means an easily pitched and succinctly stated premise. Something like John Wick "criminals kill guy's dog, guy gets revenge." Low-concept means something that is hard to summarize because its focus is on more subtle and complex ideas like character development, themes, symbols, etc. Kinda like...Being John Malkovich.

Just curious, have any of your pitches been picked up? You might be misunderstanding everyone's intention. "Low-tech, high-concept" sci-fi films are indeed in the highest demand. But that means things like Robocop not Being John Malkovich. Which makes sense considering that Being John Malkovich made about $30 million on a budget of about $13 million so...it barely made any money. Just to contrast Robocop had roughly the same budget and made over $50 million so...I think "low-tech, high-concept" is being used to describe something other than what you think its describing.

>>89711103
Fuck you, the name is Captain marvel

>>89711466
Will simpson is what carried ennis' fanfic. Like, two fucking years to see the king of vampires again? Constantine becoming a bum over that stupid irish cunt?

>>89710357
Is it just me or do I not see Red Son or Kingdom Come anywhere?

>>89715404
>>89721441
Read more comics.

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Mike Carey's Hellblazer run was pretty good as well. He is known for writing incredibly long story arcs.You have read Sandman, right? Pic related is probably the best spin off in the Sandman mythos. Carey wrote a 75 issue series, plus three issue mini, and one issue one-shot, that tells a complete story. It is 75 issues of continuous action and movie set-pieces. It recently got reprinted in five large softcover books.

If you want something more cerebral, Carey also wrote The Unwritten, a deconstruction of modern fantasy novels and literature

>>89721607
Animal Man and Red Son are both better than a lot on the list.

>>89710357
>only capeshit is Year One and Watchmen

Why are people so ashamed of super heroes?

I mean, nothing on that list doesn't belong that I noticed (although really I fucking hate Ghost World; I get that I'm the minority), but it's just ignoring such a huge part of the medium. And as great as Year One is, I wouldn't even say it's the best mainstream super hero book; it's just one of the most famous. DKR probably fits the list better, and I'd throw things like Marvels, Kingdom Come, All-Star Star Superman into contention.

It's also way biased to old stuff. There's more recent shit that definitely deserves recognition.

>>89710357
>>89724699

Oh nevermind, I just saw Digital Fortress in there. It's fucking bait after all.

>>89710109
Moore's best work was Swamp Thing, so that's where you go.

>>89721877
Lucifer > Sandman.

>>89723656
The fact that you don't recognize a comic doesn't mean that it's a bad comic.

>>89724699
Dark Knight Returns IS on there, you whiny whiner.

>>89710918
Check out The Incal. Way ouy-there sci-fi with beautiful art.

>>89724768
For pure action and pacing yes. There are only like 5 single issues in the entirety of Lucifer, and they serve to build the greater story being woven, I really, really liked the short stories in Sandman more than in Lucifer though. Lucifer also had a more consistent art style, even though artists drastically switched every other arc. OP, if you are seeing this, Lucifer is very similar to how something like Hellboy is plotted out: it is intelligent "capeshit"

>>89725013
Incal is so stupid.

>>89725019
I also very much prefer Lucifer as a protagonist to Dream. Less moping around about failed relationships and more fucking people over by telling the truth and being an Honest Joe.

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>>89725050

>>89725050
So what are your suggestions?

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>>89725090

I'd suggest Corto Maltese and Torpedo.
Torpedo was also storytimed recently.
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>>89713493
Flex Mentallo is amazing, especially if you're aware of the history of comics in America, as well as all of the popular criticisms of comics as a genre. Plus, dose muscles tho.

>>89725132
>muh references
Laugh out loud.

>>89725170
You're upset because I don't like your French shit. Don't be. It's not meant as a personal insult. It's just a difference in taste.

>>89715041
Above all, /pol/ has shit taste.

>>89725199
Right, right, if it's French then it's shit, I should have known.

>>89721441
well yeah, it's a list of good comics

>>89725282
You're desperate to find something to argue about. I don't understand you, but that's fine. You can keep replying if you want. Don't expect any (You)s though.

>>89725199
Jodo is Chilean, though

>>89725304
>You're desperate to find something to argue about.
Look in a mirror. The original post was yours, not mine.

>>89710918
>high concept
>cerebral
Except you're an idiot, high concept means easily explained to the masses

>>89711334
>>89725327
They probably confused high concept with highbrow.

>>89725327
we've already been over this, anon

>>89715404
>>89718268
>Why are these comics I've already read on this recomendation list?
>>89724716
>If there is a comic I don't like it's bait
But I agree that Digital Justice is fucking terrible.

>>89718268
I never understood why it had to be "King of the Vampires" anyway when he never does anything and dies like a bitch. Might as well have been any random vampire.

>>89721877
I havent read the Lucifer spinoff but I was actually contemplating the Thessaly spinoff because I liked her character so much. Is it worth it?

>>89716862
No haha, I don't make pitches, I do grunt work and pick up info like that from Dept. Head chatter. Thanks for the heads up though, Id hate to misuse the phrase. unfortunately, now I'm back on set and will have to hold my tongue next time I hear someone use it.

>>89726172
>If there is a comic I don't like it's bait
Did you read my post right above that? I fucking hate Ghost World, but I get why it's on there.

Digital Justice is objective garbage. It would be like putting Trouble or Ultimatum on that list.

whats some underrated Vertigo/Image

>>89728740
David Hine/Shaky Kane's work
The Humans
Enigma

>>89724747
Thanks anon I but read all the swamp thing.

>>89710109
I only read in 3 or 4 years ago and it's my fave too. And I've filled the intervening time with all sorts of euro & indie shit.

>>89721877
>The Unwritten
So how's this? Based on Lucifer and Hellblazer I'd say I'm going to love Carey's stuff but I'm still asking just to be sure.

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>>89715041
>a character with godlike powers and the ability to impose his Will on the world, but what does he do with it?
...He uses his godlike powers to impose his will on the world.
I don't see how that proto-SJW either, a WHITE MALE forces everyone to do things the way he says they should be done and it works.
Seriously, I would really appreciate some elaboration. You're expectations aren't obvious; the fact that he's an archetypal Ubermensch doesn't even warrant bringing up in your post so I presume you weren't expecting him to purge the darkies.

>>89731642
Miracleman takes away peoples weapons, therefore The Left. Don't bother with this guy.

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>>89710109
Honestly?
Sentry.

>>89731685
Well that an explanation at least.
I'm not 'murican, gun law shit NEVER comes to mind naturally to me. We've had shootings here too, the crime itself is the issue.
I was, however, thinking of how he took away everyone's nuclear wessls. Is that anti-amendment too? Not doing so when you're the only defense nations need would be the usual Superman SJWesque "can't somebody else do it" way, surely.