What was Brian's absolute lowest moment?

>>89695445

I'm going to need some context behind this

Also, that herpes episode would probably be his lowest moment. It was just awful all round.

>>89695445
Is that the down syndrome girl Chris dated?

Bump. Just because I never seen family Guy that much recently and wanna see how bad it's gotten.

>>89695623
I think this ep was from when he was trying to fuck one of megs underage friends

Birth

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>>89695669
Yep, Brian went into the girls changing room looking for Meg and saw her friend dressing

Dinner with Quagmire

>>89695669
>>89695734

To be fair, he's only like 11 so it technically isn't illegal.

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>>89695778

>>89695778
He's getting drunk nearly every night so he's still an adult in dog years.

>>89695778
He's a dog.

It's illegal anywhere but Canada.

>>89696184
not illegal for the dog

That time he fucked a marine's wife and then pretended to be their new pet dog just so they coud keep fucking behind the husband's back.

Seriously what the fuck happened to Brian? He used to be one of the better characters why did the writers took away all of his interesting qualities just to make him a douchebag that only cares about scoring with any woman he finds?.
At least Quagmire knows what I'm talking about.

>>89695445
It's gotta be the one where he dates the blind chick right?

Takes advantage of her blindness in every way imaginable. Pretends to defend her in arguments by doing other voices, putting on the stereo and pretending they're at a concert.

She mentions she hates dogs so he does everything he can to not let her know he's a dog.

When she finds out, he just puts on another voice and begins trying to sleep with her again. Roll credits.

>>89695445

This, and the herpes one, and the one where he sold Quagmire a flat.

>>89699374
>at least the rapist knows what I'm talking about
I don't want to hear any moral speeches from the meme molester man.

>>89699398

Oh fuck that one was bad too.

>>89699374
He became the voice of generic liberal opinions for the sake of introducing those topics into the show easily for the writers. Eventually people grew to hate him for that like people do preachy self righteous people, or at least by association (ie: this episode features Brian, he's definitely going to be a scumbag or explore a current hot button issue.)

>making Megs background friend into an actual character

>>89699374
Brian never had any interesting qualities, he's better now than when he was just a liberal mouthpiece for the writers.

He dated some chick who ran a daycare and abused Stewie and everyone else, ignored it until he found out she had a boyfriend and got her arrested.

He saved some chick from drowning until she said she had a husband and let her drown.

>>89695445
Remember that time that they killed him off and everyone freaked out even though the episode titles had already been released weeks before that and Brian's name was in an episode title no less than a month after the episode in which he was run over?

Fucking Quagmire's dad was actually one of the less awful things he did, even though he rubbed it in his face.

>>89699474
You're just echoing what everyone says. He had more of a distinct personality when he was just a mouth piece as opposed to now where it's worse and way more predictable. Not to mention his standpoints have slowly gotten less reflective of his own personality and more in line with the typical opinion of someone liberal who is informed on the matter.

Brian did literally nothign wrong with this episode
Meg said her friend was 18 in the episode
She was of age

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>>89699458
they did an episode about anti-vaccination moms and Stewie straight up says at the end 'this whole thing was a lecture from liberal hollywood'.

They don't even try anymore.

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>>89696281
Thus Brian was not in the wrong in this.

I think it's when he ripped quagmire off in that real estate deal after quagmire paid for his dental surgery and saved him.

>>89699374
Gave myself whiplash watching first season episodes where he goes to therapy, finds out his mom is dead (and stuffed), fighting for his civil liberties to drink from a fountain, realizes he's in love with his best friends wife and feels horrible about it.

He used to be a deadpan intellectual, the straightman to Peters buffoonery. Now he really is juts liberal mouthpiece and insufferable douche who let's a woman drown when he finds out she's married.

>>89699654
>Quagmire gets Brian's teeth fixed
>Brian ruins quagmire financially
>Brian laughs at him while he does it.

He's SO awful.

>>89699671
On that note, what the fuck were they thinking of making Quagmire call out Brian on his bullshit. Quagmire is literally the worst character in the show bar none, a literal rapist who has no respect for boundaries, but anytime he's dealing with Brian they suddenly try to make Quagmire to be decent.
They both love Lois, they both lie to women to try to fuck them, they're both really boring. The main difference? Brian's had one child he didn't know about and when he found out he made an effort until his son chose to leave to improve his mom's life and Quagmire drugs women, fucks them unprotected then never acknowledges all his offspring.

>>89695669
18 isn't underage

>>89699705
Cleveland show didn't dance around it, in the first season Quagmire asked if he can get a spinoff, and Peter outright says "you're a rapist" as the reason that ain't happening

>>89696281
>Ain't against the law fer you to fuck him
>Just fer him ta fuck you

>>89699555

That because Quagmire deserves it.

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>>89699705
Brian accepts that Lois will never love him and doesn't make moves anymore but does enjoy the occasional peek.

Quagmire jumps at any chance he gets to sleep with Lois. The time her and Peter take a break her runs over to 'comfort' her. Spies on her in the toilet.

>>89699705
They use Quagmire both because he knows what he's talking about in terms of how rotten this all is and because Brian is on the same level as Quagmire but won't admit it.
If they had used a character that had the moral high-ground, and I don't know what one that would be, then that character wouldn't have the personal experience to know what he's talking about. It's like a virgin telling you it's best to save yourself for marriage, how would they know? And Quagmire's trying to get Brian to be a better person than himself, he's living the cautionary tale.
Plus Brian not listening and still being a self-righteous hypocrite continues the feud between Quagmire and Brian,

>>89699834
>Quagmire and Brian
>On the same level
>A rapist on the same level as a douche.
No dude, Quagmire is by far the worst character on the show.

>>89699705
Quagmire is a sexual predator, but he's also had a history on the show of otherwise being a compassionate and understanding guy. That's how he gets away with it. He's like Bill Cosby.

We know quagmire is still a shitty person, but that doesn't mean what he said about Brian isn't true.

>>89699752
Was he a rapist in the early seasons?

>>89699872
Yeah, in the episode where Peter and Lois were on a trial separation they mention Quagmire's typical drink is the Roofie Colada

>>89695734
With any other cartoon, this is where I would go PORN OF PATTY WHEN? until a drawfag gets here, but since 98% of Family Guy porn is boner-shriveling awful, I won't.

>>89699872
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYqpi2tNAC0

>>89699449
This. That anyone thinks Quagmire has any sort of moral high ground is insane

>>89699872
Brian has taken over being a rapist

>>89700918
How?

>>89695504
under all that crap one of Meg's friends Patty has a hot body so Brian tries to bang her. The joke being Brian is to old for her even tho he's only 8 years old.

>>89695445
He is a dog. He is going to live 7 years.

Morality and age of consent mean nothing when your lifespan is 1/12th that of those around you.

>>89700918

just about everyone in the family is a potential or outright rapist.

meg tried to roofie chris so a gay dude that she had a crush on could unknowningly molest him, under the guise that chris would tell her how sex with him was

brian has had sex with at least one underage girl, and tried to bribe her with a starbucks gift card

chris sent dick pics to a girl and got put on a registry

stewie made threats at brians son to take his pants off, which didnt work,

and lois tried to have sex with megs boyfriend because he made her feel attractive, as well as the justin beiber thing

that whole damn family is fucked up oddly enough outside of peter

Brian is just plain unlikable now
Kinda like how Stewie went from world dominating evil genus to quirky closet gay with random plans

>>89701218
>I forgot the "I" in genius
Pls no bully

>>89699850
Brian is also a rapist. He's lied several times to sleep with women, even pretending to be someone else to a blind woman to do so. He's douche on top of being a rapist.

>>89701203
Peter also did some fairly inappropriate things with the underage Connie D'Amico.

>>89699462
That's actually the funny part of it. She's frumpy (or at least dresses like it), boring and nothing more than a side character. Until she takes off her sweater, Brian wouldn't have noticed her to begin with. At some point Meg even says something to the effect of being grateful that her friend is a side character, and that if she realized how hot she was, she wouldn't be friends with Meg.

>>89695953
>teens never drink underage

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>Brian has been out of town attending a seminar on creating a web series and is unaware of what has transpired. On his way home, Brian stops at the Marriott, meets Ida, and starts having drinks with her. Quickly bonding, they retire to Ida's room for sex, with Ida leaving first, then Brian after telling the barman to bill the drinks to her room.
> Ida tells Quagmire that she met someone, and when she says it was Brian, whom Quagmire despises, he becomes furious. When Brian hears Quagmire come inside the house, he tries to hide under Peter and Lois' bed, but Quagmire finds him easily, because Brian's feet were sticking out from under the bed, and brutally beats him, thus threatening to blow his head off if he goes near Quagmire's house. Brian gets the final word — "Hey, I fucked your dad." — and angrily slams the door shut.

>>89701411
Brian achieved consent
That's not rape

>>89699374
>what the fuck happened to Brian

Family Guy isn't about being an edgy parody of classic sitcoms anymore, it's about being an even edgier parody of modern sitcoms like Seinfeld and It's Always Sunny where none of the characters are particularly likeable, only ramped up to 11 so everyone is literally a sociopath

>>89701566
I actually thought the worst part of this episode is how it starts off with Lois going off on a long tangent about how Brian's existence is ultimately meaningless to the family and how he will be immediately forgotten and replaced when he dies
like seriously where the fuck did that come from where's the joke

>>89701203
>outside of peter

There's a running joke in later season episodes where Peter has an enormous collection of child pornography

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>>89703950
What's worse is that she lied.

Brian should've stayed dead.

>>89695615
I think it's one of Meg's friends

>>89704025
This

The herpes one is probably one of the top but the ep where he purposely leaves Stewie and a bunch of other children in terrible conditions to hook up with the person who was supposed to be taking care of them only to call the cops at the very end after he discovers she is already with someone really pisses me off

>>89704025
I at least wanted Vinny to stay. Maybe have Joe or Cleveland adopt him

>>89703950
How many times has Brain caught Lois tripping on something and hasn't taken a shot.

>thinking at least two

>>89699595
It looks ok (The nose is a bit iffy) but why have this piece of shit in your skin?

I hate family guy with every fiber of my being.

It's pure shit

>>89699374
I really think All Dogs Don't Go To Heaven was the turning point for Brian

All of the previous episodes IIRC had him throw out a personal opinion for like a a millisecond. All Dogs Don't Go To Heaven was the first one I can remember where he was preachy as hell about his opinion, and I don't think it's ever changed

>>89704194
He basically became Seth's mouthpiece

>Hey this video from the 80's was gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRBsJmLveKQ
That's it, that the entire jokes they wasted over 10 percent of the episode on this single joke. They didn't have the decency to fucking animate it or properly set it up.

>>89701566
>"Hey, I fucked your dad"
Savage as fuck

The time he willingly gave a baby herpes was low.

>>89704025
>Family Guy should've stayed cancelled

>>89699449
This.

He has a fucking rape dungeon. He's just mad that, even after all the shit Brian has done, he still has the moral high ground between them

>>89703663
Consent under false pretenses, so rape. Also, even if he wasn't a rapist, he is a murderer who's killed because his victim wouldn't sleep with him.

>>89699374
>just to make him a douchebag that only cares about scoring with any woman he finds?

Same happened to Grandad in Boondocks 4th Season. All he cared about was pretending to be a young man and dating/fucking as many willing pussies as possible. Obviously not caring for the little kids in his care.

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IT SEEMS TODAY

The real problem is the writers think they're being pretty funny with this shit

>>89699705
It's almost like a bad person can still call someone out on being a bad person . Sure its makes that person a giant hypocrite but it doesn't make what they said any less correct.

>>89703950

lois loves throwing shots at brian and he never calls her on her shit. when she blasted him for dating jillian, he could have easily come back with any mention of peter. it almost seems like lois is fucking with his self esteem to keep him in her pocket

>>89704217
It's also a metajoke in the sense that they wanted to waste Fox's budget on the show, so they asked Fox Standards & Practices what's the single most expensive thing to show on Family Guy that can be allowed. Apparently Conway Twitty has a high royalty charge, so shitty music video gags became a thing since then.

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>>89699374
>That time he fucked a marine's wife and then pretended to be their new pet dog just so they coud keep fucking behind the husband's back.
I'm sorry, what?

>>89695669
>>89695734
Is this supposed to be a problem?

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>>89695734
Fuck this episode made me so angry/horny.

>>89704713
Do you... do you think Brian and Lois did it off camera?

>>89699705
The joke is that it's Quagmire calling him out. It would be like Hitler or Satan showing up and very calmly and concisely pointing out all of a character's flaws.
Modern Family Guy is a shitshow, though. Don't waste your time analyzing trash.

It is sad, though. Once upon a time, Brian was a funny, likable character.
>If I could just find a midget with some gin, I'd be in business.

>>89704893
This fucking literal DOG
Gets more pussy than you and me and anyone that's been alive.

>>89695445
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lIQL3YJzChY

BTFO
And everything Quagmire said is true.

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Either the time he lied to the blind girl or the time he put children(including Stewie) in danger just so he could fuck their criminally negligent daycarer.

>>89695445

they character should have just stayed sarcastic and joke oriented instead of all this stupid crap to give brian "personality"

every time i see a brian episode i just skip it

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>>89699703
Why doesn't Quagmire just kill Brian?

>>89699705
>>89699860
>>89699872
I thought the episode where he raped Marge Simpson offscreen was funny as hell. Not even baiting.

>>89701076

>Morality and age of consent mean nothing when you need your balls cut and shit on the front lawn

FTFY

>>89699705

quagmire had a daughter he took care of

>>89701218
>>89701226
tfw to genus to spell

>>89704025
The dog is dead. Bury it. Consider this mercy.

>>89699780

Same rule for prostitues in this shit hole IIRC. Women can sell their pussy all they want but it's illegal for men to buy.

>>89705117

Because he wants to bang Lois which isn't going to happen if he kills her dog.

>>89695445
The one when he fucks a veterans wife while he pretends to be his dog

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>>89699860
>He's like Bill Cosby.
Why are there people who still believe Cosby is a rapist based only on allegations and when when he was never convicted. Until there's evidence saying he did it beyond a reasonable doubt and a conviction; it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I'd say Quagmire's worse than Cosby if you're even doing a comparision, if not for just the fact that he's an actual proven rapist/sexual assaulter in show

>>89705606
The trial are still pending last I checked, I wouldn't be too hasty on saying that he was never convicted. However I do agree with innocent until guilty, that shit's important in preventing things like the Rolling Stone debacle.

>>89703663
Rape by deception is still criminal.

>>89706449
It actually isn't, at least not in most US jurisdictions.

In law school we study an (in)famous case about this:

http://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/criminal-law/criminal-law-keyed-to-dressler/rape/boro-v-superior-court/

>
Synopsis of Rule of Law. Fraud in the inducement of sexual intercourse does not vitiate consent.

>Facts. The victim received a telephone call from a person identifying himself as Dr. Stevens. Dr. Stevens told the victim that she had contracted a disease that was treatable only by a painful and expensive surgical procedure or by having sexual intercourse with a donor injected with a serum that would cure the disease. The victim consented to the sexual intercourse with the Defendant, whom she believed to be a “donor,” as it was the only choice she believed she had. The Defendant made arrangements for the victim to check into a hotel and he arrived shortly thereafter and had sexual intercourse with her.

>Issue. Is the victim “unconscious to the nature of the act” of sexual intercourse if the person consented to the act, but the consent was procured by fraud?

>Held. No. Even though the victim was deceived into having sex with the Defendant, she still consented. While this is certainly a cruel scheme, it cannot be rape.

>Discussion. Fraud in the inducement should be distinguished from fraud in the factum. Where a deception causes a misunderstanding as to the fact itself, no consent can be given, since the consent given is not for the act performed. For example, a doctor who “treats” his patients by inserting his penis in the victim’s vagina is guilty of rape since the patients consented to treatment, not intercourse. However, where, as here, the victim is simply tricked into doing something she knows to be sexual intercourse, whatever the reason, it cannot be rape.

>>89706714
The tl;dr of the reasoning is that "Ms. R." knew she was asked to have sex and consented to the sex, so there was consent for the sexual act even if the purpose of the sex was misleading.

If she didn't know she was going to have sex but Boro had had sex with her anyway, that would have been rape because she hadn't consented to the sexual act.

Here's the full opinion if you want to read it:

http://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/3d/163/1224.html

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>>89706795
Honestly that's pretty fucked up.

>>89706840
Well, consider the implications if it were otherwise. If even misleading someone into consenting to sex was rape, where would the line be drawn?

Any time anyone is not 100% honest about any aspect of trying to get someone to sleep with them, it would be rape. Lie about your job/income/status/background/taste in music or movies? Potentially rape because the resulting sex was obtained through deception.

>>89699374
New writers were hyperlibs who wrote him to reflect their "fuck religion, dude weed lmao" mindset. Nobody liked that so they had Quagmire call out Brian. People liked the smug dickhead getting called out so they went full on opposite the other direction and have made him a hypocritical scumbag.

>>89706967
That's fair. The law has to has its limits or else it'll be used so willy nilly that no actual work can get done.

That doesn't mean that it isn't incredibly shitty though. Just means that punishment would have to come from outside the legal system. It happens.

>>89706967
>Lie about your job/income/status/background/taste in music or movies? Potentially rape because the resulting sex was obtained through deception.
Doesn't Sweden actually have laws like that?

>>89695445
every moment is his lowest moment

>>89707123
No idea, I went to law school in the US. I can only speak to American jurisdictions generally and New York (where I practice) or Texas (where I went to school) specifically.

I'd be curious how that works in Sweden, though. Like if a girl was a huge Run The Jewels fan so I lied and said I was too to get her to sleep with me, is that rape in Sweden?

>>89707191
IIRC Sweden doesn't actually have super liberal rape laws, it just has a far greater number of people reporting the rape so the statistics are skewed.

It isn't rape to look at a woman in Sweden, no matter what /pol/ would tell you.

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>>89695445
Her forehead is a swiss roll

>>89695445

Illegally voting for Hillary.

How about the episode where he found out his son, whom he'd abandoned to an abusive alcoholic mother, made it as a sitcom star and tried to take full advantage of it?

Or the time he got stewie purposely infected with herpes?

Or the time he ruined stewie's playwright career because he was jealous?

Or the time he was given a massive opportunity by quagmire, had him effectively save his life, then completely ripped him off?

to be honest, him hitting on patty was pretty negligible. He treated her well and just gave her some positive attention.

>>89701460
That reminds me, wasn't there a fourth friend Meg had? A blonde who is/was pretty qt?

>>89696184
And Ohio.

>>89699834
There's a Family Guy character who has a moral high-ground?

>>89704887
>horny
Murder your living escence slowly and painfully.

>>89696281
even the dog gets in trouble

>>89704713
>he could have easily come back with any mention of peter
I'd say the difference is Lois genuinely loved Peter (I have no idea if that's even canon anymore) whereas Brian had no intention of getting serious with Jilian.

>>89711724
what about the owner?

>>89695778
Wasn't the girl 18? It's still weird, but if she's 18 there's nothing I can legitimately say against it

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>>89699374
>That time he fucked a marine's wife and then pretended to be their new pet dog just so they coud keep fucking behind the husband's back.
You got an episode name or something?

>>89705606

What a dumb, dumb motherfucker. There were other ways to go about this to protect both kids while the police investigated.

>>89711859
even the owner gets in trouble

>>89696184
Texas for the time being. And canada he can only get oral.

>>89699860
Doesn't help that post season 4, and I'm being generous with that, everyone became horrible people for shock value comedy.

>>89708932
>How about the episode where he found out his son, whom he'd abandoned to an abusive alcoholic mother, made it as a sitcom star and tried to take full advantage of it?

That one was baaaaaad. I wanted to throw something at the tv.

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>>89711686
go back to the steven universe threads cuck

>>89705606
I hope that Dad kills themselves. What a fucking piece of shit parent. Easily as bad as a parent who defends their actual proven rapist offspring.

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>>89705606
>ratting out your son
>worse not trusting your own goddamn flesh and blood over a stepchild

>>89696184
Hi Adam

>>89699872
There was an entire episode based around it because a woman found him holding himself up above the women's toilets.

>>89695445
>What was Brian's absolute lowest moment?

Existing.

>>89703663
>achieved consent

lmao

>>89711555

At this point, I think... the Chicken? Maybe?

Has anyone else noticed that Bonnie is increasingly becoming more hateful toward Joe?

>>89713598
They were the last happy marriage so of course it had to go

>>89703950
Be a use he's just a fucking dog.
That's the point. No matter how much people pretend that they're these amazing perfect things, once they die, you replace them. In fact, people who refuse to get another pet after one dies are considered weird, because pets aren't humans; they're just animals.

>>89714033
Tbh I'm really weirded out by people that replace their dogs with the same breed, or even worse buy the same breed and give it the same fucking name. Why even have a pet if you're going to treat it as disposable?

>>89706967
I'd say it should be case by case. Someone having sex with you because you lied to make yourself appealing wouldn't be rape. Someone deceiving you in a way that directly got sex, like the "donor," seems like it should be considered rape.

>>89714033
That doesn't really work when Brian acts like a human and is almost always treated as such except for when there's a joke about him acting like an actual dog

>>89699716
adulthood starts at 25, havent to ever been to tumblr?

Is there an ongoing plot in Family Guy or is it just one of those shows that throws in a new character or new relationship between characters every 4 episodes to keep the slop moving?

>>89699374
>Early Brian
Smartest most well read member of the family
No true political standpoint, but still leans Liberal not Religous inclination what so ever
Has a crush on Lois but also goes out and tries to find love so he doesn't ruin his best friend's marriage
>New Brian
Surface smart knows a little about everything but has absolutely no knowledge beyond very basic facts
Complete Liberal Mouthpiece all conservatives are bad
Complete Atheist mouthpiece if you belive in god you are retarded
Complete Herpes riddled scumbag who sleeps with other peoples wives Including his neighbor and manipulates people into having sex with him
closest friend is a gay baby who somehow is more put together than he is.

>>89713328
Not after them restarting their fight over which one of them would pay for dinner, but originally, yes.

The Chicken was fighting Peter because Peter tried to kill him over an expired coupon, but Peter git away with it.

>>89695445
When he cheated with Bonnie on Joe and left town with her
Or
When he fucked a marines wife and acted as their dog
Or
When he Took Quagmire's Class and fought over Jillian and Cheryl Teigs with him
Or
When he gave Herpes to Stewie

>>89714819
pisses me off that Peter literally kill a giant chicken, but can't handle an aging Liam Neelson and a drunk football player

Surely it was that time he dated Quagmire's transexual father, right?

>>89705606
>Believing your wife's child over your own flesh and blood

Some one shoot this man

>>89714491
That's a problem on the writers really. Brian, like his prototype Steve, is just suppose to be a smart dog who just so happens to talk. His original purpose was suppose to be the straight man to Peter's wacky antics, because Peters so stupid that even his dog's smarter than him.

>>89715009
George Carlin was right all along

>>89715159
What bit are you talking about? I love George carlin and can't remember.

>>89715554
The bit about rats and squealers that came from the canceled and shelved special that had to be put away because it had a joke about exploding planes right before 9/11 happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJXSq-UFlto

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>>89705606
I fucking hate it when people fuck up royally then get upset when they realized that they weren't getting away with it.

He started this thinking staunchly that he he had the moral high without considering his son at all, if his son had actually done something he wouldn't have thought twice about his about being 'good guy'.

It's like saying you're sorry but only after getting caught, you aren't actually sorry, just sad that it backfired.

>>89701566
The best part of that episode is when Brain shows Peter and Lois a picture of Ida and they just start laughing their asses off because they realize Brian fucked a post-op tranny and they don't tell him

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>>89705292

A shitty lock open to any key, but a master key can unlock any door.

>>89704713
Jillian was like the only legit nice character on the show. I'm hoping they never brought her back just to ruin or kill her.

>>89712008
Brokeback Swanson season 14 ep 8

>>89716199
well they had her husband killed so she's probably already ruined

>>89716165
Yeah, but a key that opens every lock it can find gets put away by the police.

>>89716165
every time you use a key it gets worn down. A key reserved for use exclusively in one lock will be in better condition that a battered, filthy thing that's been jammed into any greased hole that even looks like a lock

>>89716487

Then it mean it isn't a master key.

>>89716641

A master key fit every lock, nothing is said of the quality of the lock itself. And nothing prevent oneself from misusing their key for questionable intentions.

>>89716165
>i hate sexually active women
>why won't anyone have sex with me??

>>89703901
>sociopath
Can you only achieve an erection when combining that word with "Family Guy" in a sentence, it seems to have passed shitpost a long time ago

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>>89705606
>>89715818
Seriously, fuck that guy. The shitheel doesn't deserve sympathy in the slightest. If anything, I feel sorry for the kid and how fucked his entire situation is.

>>89703901
I don't know why something about It's Always Sunny works while something about Family Guy just doesn't.

>>89704113
> I am angry that cartoon characters are never punished for doing terrible things

I remember when your older brother was posting the same autism about Mandy from Mandy & Billy

Tell us, how's he doing these days, still panhandling smokes at turnpike exits?

>>89711805

she didnt know that though. he was secretly with her for an unknown amount of time. the only difference between her and brians situations is that jillian is actually attractive. honestly i think the only reason brian didnt go in is the fact that brian is friends with peter.

Can someone (pls) explain the baby herpes thing to me?
What happened?

>>89719429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pN3r2WlK3E

>>89695445
Brian is, overall a shitty character. His lowest moment came when he was conceived.

>>89712085
You're cuffing yourself

>>89719929
Even the cop gets in trouble.

>>89717415
I've had this theory in back pocket for a long time.

Family Guy asks you to care about it's reprehensible characters whereas Sunny embraces their characters shamelessness to full comedic effect.

Just about every episode of FG has a moment near the end where one character apologises to another
>I'm so sorry [blank]
>I just got so caught up in [blank] I forgot what was really important

They're asking us to care about these characters who week after week, usually in the same episode, have done horrible things to one another. These apologies are especially unsatisfying because you know the characters will be their same selfish selves next week. There's no point to them.

Scenes like the one where Quagmire shames Brian or Meg shames her family are just begging us to take them seriously. And let's not forget the Brian and Stewie locked in the bank episode. The show desperately wants to be taken seriously but can’t escape itself.

The analogy someone used was imagine if at the end of the Three Stooges, Moe realised how badly he’d been treating Larry and Curly, apologised and told them they were his best pals and he wouldn’t give them up for anything. It would not only stop the comedy dead in it’s tracks but would feel incongruous with the abuse he’s been dishing out earlier.

It’s Always Sunny never does this. If a character apologises to another, they’re faking it for their own hidden motives. The show never asks us to forgive the characters who are basically unforgivable. They never ask us to take these characters seriously, they ask us to laugh at their schemes because it's a comedy.

TLDR; Family Guys pathetic attempts as sincerity undercut the comedy.

>>89720994
That's the thing with McFarlane sitcoms. He's dedicated to this parody of classic family entertainment where a family man learns a hokey moral and the studio audience "Awwws." Assuming it isn't in earnest. It is possible that they just don't know any other way of structuring an episode.

>>89699595
At this point, that guy must be in a swirling tornado of regret

>>89721709
I hope he still has it, and wears it like a badge of shame.

>>89721334
Most sitcoms are about flawed but ultimately decent people. You know the characters are going to keep being themselves next week but you like them so you don't mind seeing a little moment of tenderness.

The Simpsons can get away with this because the characters aren't bad people. Family Guy is populated with characters who do irredeemably bad things to each other and then expect us to like them because they give the same old tired apology at the end.

>>89721823
Therein lies the flaw.

>>89721823
>>89721867

It wasn't always that way, though. Early FG tried to emulate some of the Simpsons' sincere moments

>>89722219
When they upped the shock value, they destroyed the characters.

>>89720994
That's pretty much how I feel as well. The characters are never shown to RIGHT. Like in the episode where they get stranded in the woods, Danny Devito says that he doesn't give a shit about Animal Preservation, he just gave money to the charity so he could go to the gala they were hosting and mock them. Even when the characters do good things it's always for self-serving reasons. Once you establish that the characters are all bastards, and moreover we're not supposed to think they're anything other than bastards, it's easy to just laugh at their antics and watch everything fall apart on them. You never want them to succeed, and you also don't really care if they fail, because it's divorced enough from reality that it's just funny.

>>89695445
When he actually let Quagmire talk shit to him.

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>>89722479
>Even when the characters do good things it's always for self-serving reasons.

>That episode where the gang tried to cheer Charlie up, not because they cared that he was upset, but because they were worried he would go crazy and kill all of them

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>>89722768
>Charlie writes a musical
>"What's the angle?"
>"What? it's a musical?"
>"Yeah, but what's the angle?"
>"Who's the target?"
>"Who are we doing the musical to?"

>>89696184
Nah, it's actually legal in about half the US, California included.

That means the man can't come banging down my door for jerking it to videos of horse pussy

>>89716165

A lock that opens to any key is called a privacy lock, it's just meant to keep people from accidentally walking in on you while you're changing like in your japanese animes, but not let a toddler accidentally lock themselves in the bathroom.

A master key opens any of a given SET of locks, usually locks in the same building.

>>89724529
More importantly, people aren't locks or keys just because of the hole/stick comparison. Women aren't locks that open with the right key(s) and guys aren't keys that unlock women. So if a sloppy lock that "opens" for anyone is bad, anyone can be considered a lock. Same for keys.

>>89724669
yo girlfriends a ho

>all this mention of the herpes episode

The thing that really ruins that episode is that it's all focused on oral herpes. The kind of shit that's only mildly annoying and frequently talked about in Abreva commercials. Something far more innocuously contractible then genital herpes.

And yet for the duration of the episode a bunch of cold sores are consistently treated like genital herpes, despite cold sores not hearing any of the stigma of the genital herpes have and no one giving a shit about cold sores beyond them being mildly unpleasant.

And as far as Stewie knows he could've gotten the sores from Lois last week when she had a cold sore, momentarily forgot she had a cold sore, and kissed her infant son like mothers are wont to do.

This all just makes that episode even more of a fucking failure

>>89714169
Because they kind of are. They're dogs, you can just get another.

>>89714585
Latter

>>89699374
I can't believe I forgot he did that.

>>89699478
So basically Brian is Elliot Rodger now?

>>89721823
Well, 'bad people doing antisocial things' works for some other sitcoms, like Seinfeld. I don't think it's a universal rule. Family Guy just doesn't have good jokes.

>>89725006
Yeah but in Seinfeld they never try to go schmaltzy either.

>>89725006
>>89725351
It also helped that Seinfeld made a point so that that the world had this heightened reality that focused everything through the lens of the leads' POVs so we could even sympathize with them being such fucking awful people.

The characters they ran into were probably way more toned down and reasonable than what we actually saw. We just get them from the perspective of folks who are irritated by the fact that they even have to deal with society at all.

>>89720994
Based post.

Sometimes they do an attempted sincere ending, only to have some joke line afterwards that completely ruins it, as a sort of parody of ending morals. They did this so much and in such an unfunny way that it's actually hurting my enjoyment of other shows that make jokes in this vain.

>>89712211

the boy's adopted too

>>89695445
>>89695734
.. so are you guys saying that if you had the chance.. You would not want to do her?
She is like a decent 6.5/10 AND a redhead. And that body is at least a 8/10.
Brian is doing what all men would do.

With that have been said.. How old is this friend supposed to be?

>>89695445
Probably when after being dumped by the blind woman he simply put on a different voice to get with her again.
Quagmire's all kinds of fucked up but I don't think we've ever seen him do anything quite as low as Brian has.

>>89725488
>The characters they ran into were probably way more toned down and reasonable than what we actually saw.

Oh they most certainly were. You know the soup nazi? The person he's based on did have a bunch of rules for his soup shop, but that's because he wanted people to get in and out quickly so they weren't standing out in the cold for longer than he thought they should have to.

>>89699834
Quagmire is kinda starting to turn into Brian though. They got him whining a lot about non-liberal now. In fact he's really become a big whiner on the show now. He's a totally different character now. It was around the time of him telling off Brian is when he started to change.

>>89695445
Definitely the herpes episode since he did it for no fucking reason. Way worse than lying for gain, he just gave his friends and family herpes just because.

>>89699901
I like crocs shit but he's more Simpsons.

>>89713598
Best part of the modern seasons

>>89705170
And like 6 other son who doesn't care(one of theme a retarded one)

>>89695445
His life.

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>tfw Brian used to be hot when he was just the mature straight man of the family before he got flanderized into an obnoxious liberal

Same with Lisa Simpson; why can't there be any intelligent straightman characters that don't have to be latched onto by libtard writers for validation?

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>>89728278
>Lisa Simpson was hot

>>89728269
haha lmao epic bro +1

>>89728278
And then they changed his character again so he was constantly the butt of jokes for being a liberal who acts like he knows shit when he doesn't.

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>>89720994
>>89721334

McFarlane actually nailed it with American Dad once they dropped the political angle. The Smiths are far, far more reprehensible people than the Griffins but because they are well written and rounded characters. They can pull of sympathy, even if what they do to each other is insanely fucked up at times (Or even the ending is a really fucked up character moment). Roger is probably one of the most sadistic characters on TV but you never get tired watching him because he has some redemptive aspects in a fucked up way.

>>89728527
I think American Dad strikes a better balance than Family Guy but those schmatlzy moments still kill my boner.

>>89728334
It's like they don't know how to write a character and only go by what the fans like. Fans like that Brian speaks up about things that fall under liberal causes now and then so they write to always be like that to the extreme. Fans hate that he's like that so they keep him the way he is but shit all over him as a way to "balance" that out.

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>>89695445
I would be pretty ashamed of being a dog and seeing this piece of turd representing my species on premium tv.

>>89720994
Meh, to me those "serious" moments don't really register and I still dislike it
I really think it's just bad jokes and over the top shock humor that drags it down

>>89729039
It's all one big mess. You got characters that are assholes to each other all the time that get involved in stupid plots that always end with a "heart warming" moment

>>89703999
Did she?
They replaced him in 2 episodes and moved on. Only Stewie missed him.

>>89728527
Why is American Dad so based?

>>89695445
Don't know about Brian, but didn't Peter try to fuck Chris?

>>89704779
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Swanson

The B-plot to Joe becoming full paraplegic and Bonnie abandoning him. The gang can't keep up with Joe and leave him in a state home.

>>89728527
>The Smiths are far, far more reprehensible people than the Griffins
The smiths are angels compared to the Griffins. Far as I know, Roger's the only one who's ever tried to rape anyone.

>>89728527
Roger once murdered a kid in cold blood onscreen and he's still more likable than anyone in FG

>>89731243
To be fair, he was blind and he didn't know he was in Chris's room at the time...unless you're talking about that episode where Peter marries Chris in order to get at his inheritance once Carter names Chris his rightful heir...why is Peter in these situations with Chris?

>>89731640
Which kid was this again?

Again, I don't doubt you at all.

>>89732662

Let's see... there was the Russian boy that Greg and Terry were adopting that he killed to take the kid's place in Greg and Terry's "sophisticated" lives. I mean, that wasn't really in cold blood. Not like the time he blew up that plane by crashing into it with his limo, then while he was parachuting down he released an innocent flight attendant from her parachute. That's the only one I can think of that was in cold blood rather than for a (usual petty) reason or revenge.

>>89695445
>>89695734

>banging a 16-year-old is wrong
America needs to be nuked from coast to coast.

>>89733148
You're such a better person, calling for genocide.

>>89704382
Uh, Grandad was literally ALWAYS pretending to be a young man and dating/fucking as many willing pussies as possible with great regards to his grandsons. It's literally a running gag. Guess Ho's coming to dinner? Killer Kung fu wolf bitch? The Return of Stinkmeaner?

If anything that's one of the few antics Season 4 properly preserved. They just did a shitty job at being comprehensive, like introducing the idea of them being broke but he has the money for a fucking iphone or becoming a reality star.

>>89733483
I meant to say with great disregard. lol

>>89705170
Who he gave up because she was getting in the way of his sex life.

>>89733148
I think his methods were more disturbing than his actual goal. Buying her Build-A-Bears was almost an acknowledgement of the fact that she was basically a child compared to him. If not legally dubious, it was at the very least morally dubious.

>>89708213
Go back to /pol/