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Six episodes in, the writing isn't very good.

But damn, the animators are outstanding.

Overall, I think I'll stick with it for the plot.
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>>89681644
>for the plot

Yeah, sure.
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>>89681644
It gets better

Around the 11th/14th episode mark depending on who you ask, but trust me it gets better
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Watch the Dofus show and the Dofus movie if you haven't already.
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>>89681644
Stick until the boufbowl arc (ep 10, I think).
Sadly, a lot of good ideas in wakfu aren't used up to their full potential.
I like it for what it is, but it could be so grand with only a few minor tweaks ;_;

Let's hope that season 3 being a netflix exclusive will change that.
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>>89681644
If you think the writing is bad now, you haven't seen anything yet. Assuming you're in for the long haul, that is.
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>>89683652
Season 3 isn't a Netflix exclusive, though.
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>>89683652
It'll be more young adult/grown-up than previous seasons (Tot's words, not mine), but not an exclusive. They're gonna try showing the first episode some time soon.
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>>89683126

Maybe let him finish wakfu first.
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>>89684966
>Adamai x Lady Echo

Can this meme die?
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>>89684966
Why did they give him obongo lips?
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>>89684966
Really makes you think.
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>>89687291
How is it possible to do nothing wrong, yet be such an unsufferable little shit?
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>>89684966
>Someone bought/commissioned Adamai porn
Just when you think you've seen everything
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>>89687552
It's with S3 Adamai?
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Guys I just finished the OVAs and now I think I know why everyone hates them... They made no freakin sense! I mean, they were fun, the fighting was cool, the characters are cool but the plot was horrible. Suddenly there's 12 Dofuses? And dragons that were never once mentioned before? And why did ogrest eat them? Adamai was always a dick, but I feel he was acting a bit OOC. They nerfed the hell out of Joris, and Pinpin and Eva were acting weird. IDK I liked them because I love the series but in the end they were thoroughly meh/10
I hope S3 can redeem the series and there's still two more Dofus movies to look forward to right?
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>>89690029
>Suddenly there's 12 Dofuses? And dragons that were never once mentioned before? And why did ogrest eat them?
Transmedia!
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>>89690029
The dragons and their Dofus is from the games and the older media, it's not out of the blue.
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>>89691286
It might as well be...
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wakfu is thoroughly mediocre/below average but the art and animation kind of makes up for it.

>>89690029
>>89691042
>>89691286
they blindly cross reference shit which is one of their biggest flaws.
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>>89690029
>And why did ogrest eat them?

For the love of one of Sadida's Divine dolls. They do strange things to you, man.
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>>89683652
considering the fanservice of bringing nox back I'm not real sure its gonna be great
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>>89691712
99% sure that's just a flash back type deal...
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>>89683982
Being funded by Netflix though and they own most of the English speaking territory rights
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>>89691333
I totally respect that opinion, and lovely trips.
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>>89681644
The writing is quiant as fuck. Get rekt mate.
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>>89683126
The movie is good but the writing in dofus weaker and too soft, especially after coming off wakfu
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>>89690029
>uddenly there's 12 Dofuses? And dragons that were never once mentioned before?
TOP KEK. You fucking secondary. It was awesome as a lore fag. If you didn't already know what Dofuses were by then you deserve this. There are WAY more than 12. It's just that some or more special than others. Dragon dofus>others. Primordial dragons>dragons. Cosmic Eliatope>primordial. Too easy. I bet you dont' even know that the council of 12 are literally the decendants of the cosmic dragon, creator of the Krozmos and all know existence.
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>>89691333
(you)
Secondaries shouldn't have to be spoonfed. Accept new things when the story introduces them or actually learn the lore, your choice.
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>>89684966

>They're gonna try showing the first episode some time soon.

How soon is 'soon', anon? You're killing me here.
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>>89684966
Source on that?

Where are you getting the info from?
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I swear the only time I've ever heard someone call someone a secondary is on /jaypee/
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>going on /jp/
My condolences.
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Tot has these newsletters and there's the new Gamakna online magazine. One of those should have it. They're struggling to get it shown because both France4 and Netflix want to put the boot down. Even though it's what they promised the KS backers way back in 2013 or so. I guess they see the show as lucrative enough to deny Ankama the satisfaction, then.
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Finished Adventures of Kerub.
Comfy as fuck, though I wish there were more episodes focused on present time rather than another story about Kerub and Lou being shitty to each other.

Would've allowed more fun Joris shit and maybe introduce Atcham better.
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>>89687291
Why is Omega Shenron in my Gaulish animays.
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>>89687358
He's insufferable because no one gives a fuck if they're doing the wrong thing, and rather than leaving them or killing them outright he tried time after time to make them see reason.

Now that he's made new friends who understand him he'll hopefully be much better.
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>>89692663
They already did, actually. One anon dropped spoilers several threads ago. Didn't read them, before you ask.

>>89693285
I wouldn't say no to more Atcham. Fucker can be pretty badass when he wants to.
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>>89692575
>Having to scavenger hunt material across multiple different platforms just to understand a TV show when animation already makes a superior medium to convey a story.
I mean, whatever you gotta tell yourself.
If they could consolidate the lore and backstory into a more cohesive movie or something that would be great. I read the manga whenever its available and that's enjoyable as well. Too bad it's A) slow as fuck to be produced B) hard as fuck to find online and C) in french...
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>>89692978
Where else do I funpost too who?
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>>89694236
>he doesn't try and teach himself to speak French
Regardez le paysan.
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>>89692575
It'd be one thing if Wakfu/Dofus was this huge, popular thing that had all of its information readily available but it's not and your fans have to go on what's basically a scavenger hunt to understand each new entry, you did something wrong. That was one of the most prominent criticisms about the Dofus movie: they had no fucking idea what was going on.
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>Binge watch the Dofus series in five nights, getting to love all the characters and how comfy it is
>Finally reach the final episode, feel kinda bummed out because it's over
>Go immediately to the movie to cheer myself up
>Kerub going legendary warrior mode one last time and dying
FUCK
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>>89694603
>>Go immediately to the movie to cheer myself up
You poor sod.
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>>89694643
A-at least Lilotte was absolutely fucking adorable and Kerub's last fight was really well animated.

Also, why is she so perfect?
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>>89681644
Is there a viewing order guide for Wakfu, Dofus, the movies, shorts, etc.?
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>>89694806
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>>89694822
Thanks!
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>>89687918
Even more disgusting
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>Try out the Wakfu game to fill more of that Wakfu/Dofus itch, start with Huppermage because Bakara is best girl
>Boring as fuck
>Try out different classes to see if just the Huppermage is shit
>Same results, boring as fuck
>Decide to check out some Dofus gameplay with the Huppermage
>Everything looks so much better, big extravagant animations for all the movies, constantly juggling status effects
Why, why is it fucking subscription based?
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>>89696210
Wakfu is not boring if you're playing with friends
MMOs are all about socializing
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>>89687291
>Hail Qilby
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>>89684966

>commisioning fucking adamai
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>>89693650
>They already did, actually. One anon dropped spoilers several threads ago.

Here's the thread: https://archive.is/qGLRJ
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>>89696253
I don't have any friends
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>>89696894
Even if you did, you don't get to bring friends
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>>89693650
Anyone got the webm of the fight between Atcham and Joris?
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>>89696910
They work for the watch maker man...
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>>89696957
IF I PULL IT OFF, WOULD HE DIE
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>>89697098
>>89696910
please fuck off with your pathetic underage/manchild newfag meme spewing shit you autistic fuck, that shit doesn't fly in Wakfu.Dofus threads.
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>>89697158
Alright fine you fuck.
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>>89697098
It would be extremely depressing
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>>89697231
>when you're nothing but dust held to together by sheer will and determination
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>>89694822
Updated, and I tried to streamline the watching order and remove some of the older, less relevant info. Suggestions for improvement always welcome.
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Elely holds the fucking universe in her eyes.
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>>89697231
pour vous
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>>89697231
For Yugo
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What in god's dick is this?
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>>89697662
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>>89698205
Enutrofs can fuse with their mole pets to form the Drhellzerker.
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>>89681644
Yeah, Wakfu is honestly fucking terrible. 20 minutes and Nox's backstory are about all it has going for it outside of fap fuel.
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>>89694598
>>89694236
Boohooo muh scavenger hunt.
It's really not that hard. The fact that you don't know it by default makes me definate you're a new 'addition' to these threads too. Again, look or ask around and enjoy the universe or go 'ahh' and just deal with it when there happens to be one or two things you don't know.
It. is not. that. hard.
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>>89681644
The ending to S1, followed by the Nox movie, is what really hits home.
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>>89687552
That's Kennoarkkan art.

Dude just draws whatever for the most part, and finds people to get behind the paywall.
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>>89698205
>>89698338
Basically its just a move some get in the MMO being shown in the show.

Its not even the strangest thing Enutrofs can do, let alone everyone else.
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>>89693650
There needs to be an OVA surrounding Joris raising Atcham and Kerub.
I want to see them young and on adventures.

I also want to see an old Indie react to baby Kerub
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>>89699664
As a guy who follows everything Wakfu since 2010, helped a bit with the subs and was responsible for working direct download links in these threads for almost two years... Fuck you.

Ankama is retarded for not even trying to explain basic rules of how the world and races work in their animated shows. An explanation would take under a minute and make it all smooth sailing from there, but instead we get things like Nox looking Xelors (he was super unique till that moment) out of nowhere in ep. 11 and we have no idea what is going on. I can talk lore all day now, but I was confused when I started watching and had to dig to learn the details. This should never happen in any medium. Again, take 10 seconds to explain things, especially if you have a kid in your show who can ask those questions for the viewers so it won't feel grating. Yes, you risk slight repetition from time to time in dufferent shows or media, but you gain coherency and you do not alienate new viewers. Not to mention your world becomes even richer in the process.

You shouldn't have to follow the glacial speed moving mangas to know why Phaeris wasn't in the OVA's or why Ogrest is big and bad now. Just take a fucking minute and tell us, Tot you stupid fuck.
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I'm starting to think Adamai will have a personal vendetta against Pinpin. Ad abandoned Yugo because of Pinpin's decision in the OVA to go after Ogrest.
From what Napoleon said in the previous threads Pinpin and his family will get fucked by Adamai. Maybe Ad tries to get to Elely and Flopin since they are Pinpin's weak point.
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>>89700087
Oh no, we pissed off an important namefag.

Oh, wait.
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who here /yugo/
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>>89700943
>we
You and... Who else, exactly..?
>pissed
Rather earned pity, but whatever.
>important and/or namefag
Hahaha, nope. Project harder.

The only reason I mentioned anything is to prove that even the older fans hate Ankama's policy on not repeating a story or explanation ever, even if it is buried in comic most people watching the show never read. Telling people to dig for MORE info is fine, telling them they HAVE to dig for BASIC info about things which constantly appear in the show but are never explained there is a sign that something is not right.

Hell, this is the reason why good people here made all those infographics about races and stuff. As much as I love their animation, Ankama is a mess of a company.
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>>89699664
>It. is not. that. hard.
See, that'd be true if this wasn't a niche. little known cartoon meant for children in France with next to no English sources up until recently. Even then it's just the 2 seasons + OVAs with a few comics sprinkled in.
I've consumed as much material for the series as I could find/was posted over the years, and I'm sure there's still some shit I won't know because I didn't read some one-off book based off a random side character from one episode that never got translated or do a quest in the game that 40 people still play.
>>89701037
>Ankama is a mess of a company.
Been around for 6ish years myself, and I agree. I feel like they're trying to be bigger than they are, and maybe have been for some time. Them realizing this shit was popular anywhere other than Breadland probably threw them through a loop 2-3 years ago. Now, though, it's a bit late to capitalize.
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>>89701037
Oh wow, "older fans". I jacked it to Amalia back in 2007 when we only had promo posters, so what? I don't think being around long gives you any street cred on 4chan. Sure Ankama make dumb decisions, I just don't see intermedia references being one of them.
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>>89701469
In s2, Rushu mentions using Eliatrope magic to enter the Wo12 before and Adamai or Joris mentions a dragon totalling Bonta centuries before. You'd have to buy the Dofus ongoing comic to know the details, but this doesn't detract from the story in the tv show.
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>>89700943
>we
My shit posting and gate keeping is my own. That said
>I w-was on the subs team
Sure he was.

>>89700087
The lore isn't that hard. Scav huntfags make it sound so difficult. They are secondaries. All of the most basic stuff has been done to death in threads and even info graphics. Admittedly there's more obscure lore but it hasn't come up in any of the shows I've seen.

>I helped the sub team
Does that give you some authority. While subbing is based sub teams can have some serious fucking autism, or they used to when they still existed in any real way.
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>>89701094
>just the 2 seasons + OVAs
And the two MMOs. The 2 spin off eliatope games. The 5 or so comics of varying eras. The other one off OVAs. The Manga. The official comic. The two series based on the MMO. The websites. The threads which used to be really lore heavy AND the infographics for lazy faggots.

There are loads of sources for loads of info.
>b-but they don't repeat lore
The games sure do and so do the shows. The show explained what dofus were, just because you didn't know there were primordial ones shouldn't be an issue. It was already shown there were non-eliatrope ones with the wawabit episode.
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>>89697158
go back to sa
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>>89681644
I don't recall the writing six episodes in being anything in particular, neither good nor bad, it just kinda was. Though the settings terms was a bit confusing and unclear at times, there was that, but even so I felt it was minor. At least the things that came up so far.
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>>89701575
>authority
Hahaha. You're funny. Please refer to >>89701037

>>89701469
>>89701493
>imtermedia references aren't bad!
Ok. Time for a thought experiment. You just discovered the show on Netflix. You kinda like it. You do not browse 4chan, you have no idea about Kerub existing or that there are any comics (or you think they are only in French).

Why isn't there Phaeris in OVA's? Who is Ogrest and why is he bad? What's the difference between a Iop and a Sacrier? Please base your answers only on what the show provides.

This is a show made by a medium sized French company. Even Marvel does not tell you to watch Luke Cage to know who that one guy in the movies is, it's the other way round. Small things reference bigger things. The series should not rely on comics or webisodes to tell it's backstory, it's those comics and shorts which should take shortcuts from your knowledge of the show. Intermedia is not bad. The way Ankama does intermedia is. They almost act like they make cartoons mostly for the fans of their games and not a show for everyone to capitalize on the games' rich lore and catch new fans with a colorful world they'd love to play in.
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>>89702387
I went into Wakfu blind and enjoyed it. Episode one a special boy and his special tofu motherfucker. I liked the sensation of being dropped in a completely alien world and learning about it slowly and organically. Exposition is gay.
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>>89702469
There is a difference between jumping into a world blind and a giant plot point who is also a dragon disappearing with nobody mentioning him ever again.
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>>89682931

I think that's what anon meant by "plot".
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>>89702387
>the only reason I mentioned it was to prove something and assert some authority as an older fan
If you didn't think being older made your position more valid you wouldn't have mentioned it. I was here pretty early too bud. Not super early, admittedly but I'm not fresh. Your opinion is your own and being an 'oldfag' doesn't help your argument. Especially when you're not arguing with new people.
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>>89701613
>The 2 spin off eliatope games.
Islands and that shitty non-canon thing?

Anyway, my point with that was, outside of the big, "main" stuff, some lore/story junk that ends up being important can be a bit difficult to find. The websites are bare-bones and I'd hardly want to play an MMO just to figure something out in my cartoon. The comics/manga could go unnoticed too unless you sorta knew what you were looking for in advance.

It's a bit of a jumbled mess, especially for common, casual consumers who don't go on 4chan. The cross-media type stuff could be great, it's just not as well linked together as it could/should be.

>>89702585
That's a good point actually, as those who stopped with S2 going into the OVAs might end up being pretty lost as to where the super powerful dragon they rode off on went.
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>>89703066
The show literally works fine without extra material. It just leaves some things vague as many stories do. Most stories don't lore you to hell and back, instead you just follow your hero and learn enough to keep up.
That there is more lore is perfectly fine. Did, at any point, not knowing that children can be born a certain race because they declare themselves for a God in Incarnum really hinder your wakfu experience? Did knowing that non-disciple humans or already devoted races get one last chance to back out or change to a different God in a ceremony at 12 hurt it?
Fucking hell. It's fun stuff but it's background stuff. You don't need to know the tenants of Xelor to know that his followers are powerful and OCD.
Until you watch Dofus you don't NEED to know how the God can decide what features to bestow on their followers and how many races changed over time.
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>>89697308
>when you're just a Xelor and can't live for hundreds of years unless you have a super powered Eliacube to supply you Wakfu but then you lose it.
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>>89703039
Think what you want, dude. I don't believe in fan cred or anything. I just wanted to point that even someone who is here almost from the start, not just new watchers who are "too lazy to search up info", can dislike how some parts of lore and story are presented.

>>89703066
The show also never dwelled on Ogrest. And even if you saw his film, you still have no idea why he went bad, where's Dathura and what are those other dragons since the show fails to clearly differentiate between various kinds of Dofuses (Dofi?) which exist.

Seriously, remember how many people in these very threads (which were THE place online to get your info and to talk about the show in other language than French) though Kris La Krass is a Iop like Tristepin? It does not require much effort or skill to dedicate literally a minute of screentime to explain how races and gods work.

The point is, some unanswered questions are ok, making the lore a bit deeper in different side stories is great, but never explaining the basics or important plot points of a show because "viewers can look it up online" is a dumb idea.
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Its funny, after watching some Ankama videos (trailers for projects, etc) I now get ads in French on Youtube more often then not.
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>>89703133
Sure there's shit you don't need to know, tiny shit like the Xelor thing, but there's plenty that you do, too.

Say I'm a casual viewer and I've only watched the Wakfu series and am going straight into the OVAs, some evil dude in a mask shows up as does some cat that Joris acts really friendly with. Eva had twins? What's up with this Ush dude? Who are some of these people who seem kinda important? Where's the dragon from the end of S2? Why are there more dragons, but without Eliatropes to go with them? Who's the bird guy who's interacting with a now baby sized Ogrest and why can he do that?

Does it hinder it that badly? Maybe not, but it does reach a point where I feel like I'm missing something that a simple Google search might not be able answer. Not to mention that some of that, even if unnecessary or small, helps add weight to the events on screen.
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>>89703133
>the show works fine without extra material
We just proved that there are MAJOR plot points and characters whose disappearance/presence you cannot comprehend unless you read side material. It's like if Amalia suddenly left the story completly and nobody mentioned her ever again.
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>>89703311
>It's like if Amalia suddenly left the story completly and nobody mentioned her ever again.

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>89703262
I fully get what you're saying, they're doing it similarly to the MCU, but backwards and not really linking it all up well for anyone who's either just getting into it, or looking to figure more out.

Hell, some people might not know Nox really is dead, and that's just because it was cut out, imagine trying to figure out a character who appeared in a one-off book or something a few years ago.

I don't think I would have known what certain characters were/what their abilities were without these threads, let alone that shit like the Nox OVA or the manga existed. I'd say that kinda stuff is pretty important
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>>89703404
Hey, hey
Fuck you, buddy.
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so when is S 3?
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>>89703311
>major plot point
>side character not present
You're joshing me.
>gee I wonder what happened, he's not around
>maybe they'll we'll find out later
>huh, we didn't
>what there's a conjoining story?
>I wonder if I should read it
Too easy.
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>>89703464
I feel like one of the 6 immortal dragons who had a large role in the finale of S2 should be a bit more than a throwaway like that. A line or two about what happens to him surely wouldn't hurt.

Also, a casual first thought would more likely be
>Oh, they just dropped something again, like those water people from S2.

Again, not a huge hindrance to the overall show or whatever, but odd enough to notice.
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>>89702108
was it in the movie? i don't rememer this...
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>>89703578
>like those water people from S2
Now THAT was masterful writing. What ever DID happen with that. They just sort of went- here are your froggers, they're in the game now. Have fun- and left them disappear.

I am half-half on Eliotropes. On one hand I never want to see or hear about them and pretend they never existed (like their lore ,':^) but on the other hand, if you're going to do such an outlandish thing and raise Yugo to a God, follow through.
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>>89703464
Amalia was a major character only in season 1. Since season 2 she became supporting cast to the Yugo and Tristepin Show (even more apparent in the OVA's, where even Eva, who got some cool episodes in season 2, got almost completly sidelined).

If it was Bonta being flooded by Ogrest, there would be literally zero reason for her to appear in OVA's, since her entire role was to induce drama in ep. 1 and then have a funny scene or two.

So yeah, her lack would make even less impact than the lach of Phaeris, a POWERFUL ELIATROPE DRAGON, strong enough to stop the entire Sufokian army, who could help out A LOT durong those episodes.
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>>89703578
>>89703626
New Sufokia is really frustrating but kind of consistent with s2's writing.

>Boom here's this army out of nowhere. Foreshadowing? What's that?
>What's that? The prince says they could take over the world.
>oh it's totes okay guys they're a peaceful or something
>Season 2 ends
>No mention beyond that point
>not even Amalia saying, "Hey maybe we should watch the beaches some more. Just saying."

I really want to hear behind the scenes stories about season 2 because holy shit guys.
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>>89703658
Amalia was always a useless, basically only there for waifu fags and shippers. If you don't like her, or the idea of her with Yugo I doubt you'd really care about her. She's an Adamai tier character without adamai tier relevance. The only change was that she wasn't a plot device in S2.
Eva lowered in prominence sorta but only in full on combat which had effectively become Yugo and Grovy's thing by the end of S1. She still has good scenes though.
Ruel was always basically a supporting character so no changes there either.

Phaeris is litterally a side character, not a supporting character. It's more of a why didn't they take the eagles sort of thing than a, where's Amalia.
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>>89703585
Yes it was, remember when the Ivory Dragon gives everyone a vision of their greatest desires. Atcham gets the fur he always wanted, while Khan gets his narcissistic boufbowl fetish.
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>>89703280

I know that wasn't the point of your post but my autism compelled me to answer these questions

>some evil dude in a mask shows up
Check the Maskemane comics

>as does some cat that Joris acts really friendly with.
See "Aux trésors de Kerubim"

>Eva had twins?
Heavily hinted that she was pregnant at the end of S2, come on man, I thought you watched the main series

>What's up with this Ush dude?
Check the Remington comics

>Where's the dragon from the end of S2?
Killed by Jiva, check the mangas

>Why are there more dragons, but without Eliatropes to go with them?
Original dragons from the Dofus era

>Who's the bird guy who's interacting with a now baby sized Ogrest and why can he do that?
Special episode about Ogrest's youth, watch it
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>>89703730
Whatever your opinion on the characters is, dropping Phaeris is at least comparable to dropping the Eliacube. He wasn't there for long, but he was important to the finalnstpry arc, he acknowledged Yugo as the king and himself as his faithful subject AND the heroes flew on his back at the end.
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>>89683126
>Dofus
This isn't on Netflix. How do I watch it?
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>>89704013
http://pastebin.com/pnixYFQ4
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So who else is backing Wakfu for more episodes by buying Krosmaster minis?

http://www.wakfu.com/en/wakfunding

I won't lie. I just want the minis.
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>>89704674
Does that come in English? I can't get the Ankama shop to translate to it.
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>>89704674
Really tempted in buying the 199.99 pack.
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>>89704013

You wait until Netflix has it.
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Hasn't Wakfunding ended already?
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>>89681644
episodes 2-5 were early tests turned into filler episodes. They aren't that great. It gets much better.
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>>89704828
Ah sweet, if you have an account the price goes down by 30 euros.
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Adamai's humanoid form looked so much cooler than his shitty dragon form
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>>89705154
He took some Super Male Vitality
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>>89705154
To be honest the only thing wrong with the dragon form is the DSL
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>>89704332
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrTnWDTdwI
Going to check this out now
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>>89702469
No you see, I agree. S1 was great! Confusing at times but I learned the terminology slowly.
>wtf is an Enutrof? Iop? Tofu? KAMA!?
But the problem arises 40+ episodes 4 mangas, 52 Dofus and an OVA, orgrest ova and Nox's ova later... Where there's is STILL shit that I'm having to guess at. Still shit that is just kinda there and never touched on and then suddenly HOLY CRAP THESE DOFUS AND THOSE DOFUS CAN DESTROY THE WORLD!
Wait what. Why? Since when? It's poor story telling on Ankamas part. This series has such great lore and the potential to actually use it all in a cohesive way is just utterly lost.
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>>89703133
The shit you listed isn't important. But they also omit some pretty important shit too...
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>>89681644

Yeah but the way they draw feet is pretty top tier
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>>89703280
I still have no idea who tf Ush is...
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>>89706911
One of Keke's bros, a demigod child of Ecaflip and one of the most skilled swordsmen in the world of 12.
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>>89706898
die pls
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>>89703801
Half of these are in French and the English is basically unobtainable to people who don't have experience in 4chan or other /co/ related forums.
Hell! I still can't find Shak Shaka book one in English...
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>>89707075
Il est temps d'apprendre le français, mon pote :^)
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>>89704868
Normally, it was only during November, but the packs are still on Ankama Shop. The MMO items aren't around anymore and they've already posted figures for the crowdfunding totals in Gamakna (seriously, why isn't it translated yet?). I don't know if buying those packs at this time still contributes (directly) to season 3 or not.
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>>89707075
Argument aside (I'm another lorefag who agrees this shit is all over the place and things should be more independent), I can help with that:
https://www.comixology.com/Wakfu/comics-series/59043
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>>89707408
>Gamakna

What was that supposed to be again?
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>>89692521
>it was awesome as a lore fag
Most lorefags lost all faith in Ankama because of the OVAd though.
They blatantly destroyed Harebourg's character and messed up the lore with the eliotropes (although Toy keeps claiming he'll explain how they make sense. That was 3 years ago).
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>>89707502
A replacement for the letter to the community.
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Oh shit! Any Spanish fags around? Tangomango 2 is getting an official release in your language:
http://tangomangobd.tumblr.com/post/156896795875/tangomango-tomo-2-pronto-en-espa%C3%B1ol

Can't believe it took so long.
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>>89707870
Nice
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>>89707075
>unobtainable to people who don't have experience in 4chan or other /co/ related forums
So was Wakfu. It is a niche show that they are TRYING to make western accessible AFTER /co/ and /pco/ made it happen.
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>>89704674
>wanted to get into Krosmaster
>even bought Krosquest
>boardgame friends didn't wanna play
>no longer hanging with boardgame friends when quest finally got delivered
Just kill me, thanks
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>>89707565
>messed up the lore with the eliotropes
How exactly. Elio were a new addition like Froggers. Just there to be explained.
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>>89694822
Updated part 3.
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>>89707870
hmmm spanish you say?
Maybe a fellow third world in south america could help....
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>>89710167
Help with what?

Also, strangely, I can't find any mention of the first book existing in Spanish.
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>>89710259
i speak spanish , i could traduct it
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>>89697603
>>89697662
good/10
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I wish the focus on Eva and (mostly) Tristepin would end.
It's supposed to be a group effort, with Yugo being the main character, yet this fucker overshadows everyone in the series.
Bringing him back in season two was a mistake. He had the perfect ending for his character

>>89697662
>thematically perfect
First time I'm impressed by baneposting. Not bad.
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>>89681644
Honestly, the writing is not perfect, and it gets worse in S2, especially outside of a few protagonists, but their villains are always great.

Even Dofus movie 1, despite being nothing but a prologue, as far as protagonists are concerned, had a good villain.

OVAs are cardboard though
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>>89710501
>Bringing him back in season two was a mistake
I disagree
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So... did this kill a ton of the shushus? It was strong enough to destroy the entire Wo12, I'm sure it did some damage to the world of the shushus...
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>>89710758
They are shushus though, so they are kinda endless.
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Anyone plays Krosmaga?
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>this funny guy bit off Tristepin's arm
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>tfw the show's doing so well on Netflix that I heard kids discussing the show
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>>89710897
Eh, gods reincarnate and their power passes on to others.

At least Groovy is smarter than his previous self, that had Goultard, left him with his mother and went to make another kid with a Sadida doll. Who killed him after.
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>>89710897
>hey kid, do you know what 'vore' is?
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>>89710897
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>>89704712
if you mean the english card profiles, they will be made aviable in english eventually by the US distributor (CoolMiniOrNot), but those ordered directly from Ankama's shop are french-only (except for the pirate pack which is multilingual)

>>89710046
sorry to hear that, the game is really good, especially with the latest developments :
>V2.0 base set with tweaks in rules and demonic rewards that make things much much more balanced
>Season 4 with overall very good profiles (no garbage like season 3 and no super Op stuff like season 1)
>Boss/ban lists are effective at fixing the few remaining problematic profiles
>Season 1 being removed from the most competitive part of the game (Season format) while simultaneously getting a whole new set of rebalanced profiles to be played in small local tournaments (Eternal format)
>They're back on track with the regular new releases schedule, so no more waiting eons for new material (season 5 planned for mid 2017 and season 6 for late 2017/early 2018)
>New standalone expansion (but with compatible models, lique Quest or Junior) based on Boufbowl

I know this may require a lot of time and effort, but try and see if there's a friendly game store or boardgame club nearby, and try to kickstart a small community, even if this means being the one who brings all the material for people to try/play at first.
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>>89710657
Reasons:
It makes his sacrifice at the end of season 1 meaningless
It teaches an awful lesson to kids, the primary audience of the show (you lost a loved one? what's that, mouning and getting closure? Pfeh, you should go on a quest to bring them back instead)
Character growth since this death: near 0 (compare him to Yugo in that regard, or even Ruel, despite having less screen time). Chances to have a better death now: 0

I enjoy his character despite the naruto-like power creep and the omnipresence, but the series would have been improved by killing him and focusing on how it affected the others and their relationships. Of course, it's only my opinion, and they could also have killed him and completely failed to exploit it.
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>>89710897
They were the same? lol i couldn't tell. i was thinking more along the lines of something something primordial dragons something something not primordial dragons...
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I've been meaning to ask, if there are Dofus players around, do they have one of these for Huppermages yet? I'm also missing the Eliotrope one.
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>>89712420
This. That's a pretty good question
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>>89710046
Sounds like me.
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>>89711198
Damn. I'll have to wait then.
Thanks!
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>>89712420
But those don't have gods.
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>>89712420
The Eltiotrope one is on 1d4chan. Google 1d4 Wakfu.
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>>89713975
I know Eliotropes have one for sure. They treat Yugo like their god. Not sure if Huppermages have one though, since as far as I know those books are found in temples and I don't know if whatever they have for Huppermages in the game qualifies as a temple.

>>89714014
Thanks!
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>>89714014
Oh that's the French one, though.
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>>89714070

The text isn't translated in the image, but it is in the description.

"The God-King, The Mysterious Monarch, The Spiritual Father, The Benevolent, The Emerald Guardian. His virtues: Courage, Loyalty, Altruism, Sense of duty. His magic: The current of life, Wakfu, eternal and cyclical. His divine attributes and accessories: The sword and shield of Wakfu, The royal Hat. Symbol of his followers: The Portal. Praise the God-King, the protector of Eliotropes!"
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>>89714044
Eliatropes don't, their rulers reached what they are through wakfu science.
Huppers are mages that survived the flood in their flying school, so their power comes from ancient knowledge they kept.
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>>89714014
>Google 1d4 Wakfu

Eternal thanks.
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>>89714113
We're not talking about Eliatropes, and Huppermages may still have to adhere to certain precepts to remain in the order.
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>>89714440
I think they do have a code.

I also wish that movie showed Huppers more.

Bakara is okay character, but she's not a her, or a proper Hupper yet, she's just a normal girl that barely started character development.
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>>89703626
>>89703717
I don't even like them myself, really, and I feel like Mofette(?) is the only reason they're even remembered today.

The fact that they're not even mentioned, though, after the subtle hints at them being a major power/villainous nation in those last few eps of S2 and sorta being a big player in the finale in general is downright shameful. Even Bendis could have written it better.
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>>89714898
Well, between Julith, Bakara and the Grimalkin sisters, we saw more Huppermage action in one movie than Fecas or Srams throughout all of their animation so far.
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>>89715028
There's action and there's showing how Huppers live,
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Adale's Sufokia will be a major antagonist in S3.
Mark my fucking pixels.
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>>89715180
>Adale
They already have Dark Vlad and all those Nox and Qilby ghosts, as well as a Sram villain, I think. And the show'll be 12 eps
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>>89707502
Why does Joris wear a diaper in the Dofus series? I'm pretty sure he can use the toilet at that point.
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>>89715771
Is that what that thing is?
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>>89715771
>>89715900
They're puffy shorts, you cave dwellers. Basically the same thing Simone wears.
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So... Where the fuck did Lilotte come from?

I mean, she was shown to be to Indie what Joris was to Kerub in the show for that one episode, but then in the movie she just ends up as another one of Kerubs adoptive grandchildren for seemingly no reason.

The fuck happened? Did Indie just kick her out because she dragged her ass on the new rug or something?
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>>89715976
I presume Indie died and she ended up in the streets. If he had adopted her, it means she's lost her family twice by then, which helps explain her fear of getting attached to other people.
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>>89715959
>feet references
I knew France was degenerate but fucking hell
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>>89715180
With like, half a typical order, I doubt the season is nearly long enough to accommodate
>Various bits of OVA fallout
>Adamai's heel turn and possible redemption arc
>Lady Echo and whatever her whole plan is
>Eva's second pregnancy
>Tristeshit's kids in general
>The two/three new villains on the poster
>Flame Iop guy
>Qilby/Nox resurgence/fear toxin shit
>Whatever the hell is happening with the Sadida Kingdom
>At least 1-2 filler/Boufball eps
And some fish dudes who fucked off 3-4 years ago coming back.
Adale and Frida are basically dead.
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>>89716379
To be fair they were squeezed into a mere two episodes as a very unimportant subplot in the first place. So they can easily share the spotlight on a single episode.
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>>89716379
>Adamai's heel turn and possible redemption arc
Adamai is in the right. There could be a reconciliation but not a redepmtion.
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>>89716379
>Tristeshit's kids in general
>tristleshit
>shit
How can one man be so retarded
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>>89716448
This.
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>>89715372
>>89716379
I heard that these 13 episodes are just a first half of the season 3.
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Which is the best fight in all the shows/movies and why is it Kerub vs. Julith?
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>>89716788
I'd say it was Ruel VS the amnesiac guy.
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>>89716788
Because of that sick bass drop when Grougal gets nuked.
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>>89716409
A wrap up episode for them wold be nice, actually. But it might be a little late at this point.
>>89716448
Is it because I used Tristepin as a basis over another name, or that I don't feel like there's a lot left you can really do with him/them after the whole "Iop god" and Iop power-up shit. Flopin could use some more attention, but eh. Plus, Eva being pregnant yet again means she's likely to be sidelined.
>>89716650
Any place for that? It'd be kinda cool if we got an S3A and S3B, but I wouldn't hold my breath
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>>89681644
After they get to the island it picks up, the first half of S1 is a bit shit at times.
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Ok, look little shit. From his 15 seconds screen time we can see that he is a spoiled brat. Pinpin's children are 1 or 2 years younger than him but they seem to behave way more mature than him. He was supposed to keep an eye on Grougaloragran but when Alibert scolded him, he turned 'bawww meanie', turned the guilt onto Alibert to receive something as a 'Please forgive me' then cried when his 'reward' was stolen. What the fuck dude.
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>>89717564
JUST LOOK AT THOSE APPLES, GOD DAMN

I DON'T EVEN LIKE GREEN APPLES
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>>89717640
France and Japan are masters of making food look really good in their cartoons.
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Here. Archives.

January 16 2017 https://archive.is/xuTIY
January 18 2017 https://archive.is/qGLRJ
January 23 2017 https://archive.is/BL5nd
January 26 2017 https://archive.is/D0tIv
January 28 2017 https://archive.is/G0kSF
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>>89717564
Yugo was literally a fucking amazingly mature child. Alibert is just getting a second kid as bad as his first one was good.
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>>89717054
>But it might be a little late at this point.
Well, they did need time to build a new city first.
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>>89702387
>Why isn't there Phaeris in OVA's
In all seriousness I don't know the answer to this, why isn't he there?
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>>89718162
It's in the Wakfu manga.

He was killed.
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>>89715959
>no posting the larger version
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>>89718620
Why is her nose red anyway? Is she a tumblrite or an alcoholic?
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>>89718698
probably to differentiate her nose from the rest of her face
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>>89718620
I'm glad they de-lewded her design a bit.

>>89718698
>Having blood in your face is tumblr
I wish this meme would die
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>>89718698
Its subtle enough to not be an issue.
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>tfw not a furfag and viciously against furfaggotry
>tfw they have to draw Ecaflips dangerous between furry and not furry, and give them the skimpiest clothing of all the races
Ankama, pls, cease and desist
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>>89718803
How did such an adorable little kid turn into such an edgelord?
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>>89718845
You already know Ankama's answer to that.
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>>89718907
Living a long life and seeing the world go to shit as you lived through it all.
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>>89718916
Never skimp on the skimpy outfits.
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>>89718907
What >>89718944 said
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>We will never see any of the gods other than Ecaflip as characters in the shows
>We will never see a fully animated, fully voiced Cra
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>>89718698
She's defs a daytime drunk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLl661GZzo
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>>89694822
They have a new online card game called Krosmaga that's fun and free to play. You play as the Gods in battles against each other, only 8 Gods are available as of yet but they plan to add the rest. The highest rarity cards in the game are guaranteed pulls too if you get the gold packs.

It's not tower defense like some summaries of the game suggest though I see how some people are confused.
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>>89681644

You're watching it in French right?
The English dub is terribad, not the writing necessarily, but the voice-work.
French dub is pretty good.
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>>89710889
I do

SummonKnight is my in-game name.

Link for people that want to play since it's free, you get quite a few free packs when you're starting out if you read all the quests and also you get a chance at a free packs every day just for logging in and doing the roulette, I've gotten a lot of packs from that. Also all the starter decks for the Gods are free now if you played the old version that made you buy them.

http://www.krosmaga.com/en
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>>89721034
Thanks fampai
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>>89721028
I've heard about the English dub but never actually heard it.

I-it can't be as bad as people say it is, right?
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>>89724086
The voice acting is bad. The sound mixing is awful. And the translation itself has issues.

Pic related: "old beast" (dragon) was translated as "old idiot". Sometimes they use the wrong character names.
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>>89715180
But they are a peaceful people with happy thoughts, all of the time.
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>>89696916
SILKY SMOOTH
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>>89725180
Fuck this scene is great.
Joris having no idea what he's doing is really apparent, but also shows that the force that he's rushing with is pretty serious.
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>>89725180
>>89725271
It also shows how Atcham fights with a lot more brute strength then you'd think he would.
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>>89703280
Never read the Maskemane comics, but as for everything else.

>some cat that Joris acts really friendly with
His one time adoptive father and uncle who are in fact sons of Ecaflip. They die protecting Joris as a child and are reborn, then raised by him.

>Eva had twins?
Hinted at the end of S2 with her pregnancy all out confirmed in the Jiva comic. But this isn't really an issue. A few years of living with the man she loves have passed -- it's not exactly a suspension of disbelief to say that Tristepin knocked her up.

>What's up with this Ush dude?
A son of if Ecaflip as well, but from a different litter than Kerub and Atcham. He was killed and reborn very recently, thus the fact he's in such better shape than his "little brothers". You can infer a little bit about his relationship with Remington from the OVAs, but it's honestly not that important.

>Where's the dragon from the end of S2?
He allows himself to be killed by Jiva in order to protect his dragon/eliatrope siblings in the very first issue of the comic.

>Why are there more dragons, but without Eliatropes to go with them?
This is basic knowledge. There are two types of Dofus - Primordial and Eliatrope. Primordial Dofus are native to the world of twelve and contain the souls of dragons. They each also have their own guardians. Eliatrope Dofus are the dofus through which Eliatrope and their Dragon siblings are born, and are alien to the World of Twelve.

>Who's the bird guy who's interacting with a now baby sized Ogrest and why can he do that?
Old Dofus knowledge, but also covered in the Oghrest special. He was something of an alchemist who created Ogrest from an Ogrine on accident. He also helped to restore Dathura's heart. Ogrest was always baby sized -- he just swelled when he swallowed all the Primordial Dofus.
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>>89718845
how the fuck does that side skirt thing even stay on
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>>89725390
>This is basic knowledge
That's the point anon was trying to make. A lot of this is pretty central to the story and is never explained in the story itself. That we know it because we've been here a long time and asked around doesn't change the fact that Ankama could do a lot more to help casual viewers follow along. A casual viewer probably doesn't even know these things are explained elsewhere, doesn't know where exactly if he suspects it, and is more likely than not to be confronted with untranslated materials if he goes looking for a source.

Sticking to this bullshit transmedia philosophy is doubly retarded when so much stuff is out of print, discontinued or not localized.
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Will I be missing out on plot skipping the last half of the Dofus series before watching the movie?

It seems like it'll keep on being just a bunch of one-shot stories, tell me if I'm wrong.
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>>89725536
I'd say either it has claws like the tunic or it just wraps around like a garter. The fact that their clothes are clawed on is what's more disturbing to me.

>>89725635
Watch 51 and 52 to learn about Atcham and better transition to their new living arrangements in the movie.

And, well, they're not necessary for the movie but you should watch 27 to 29 if you haven't already.
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>>89725271
>>89725300
It also helps that they manage to convey weight so well, you can practically feel the hits.
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>>89725390
I think the point was more that some/most of that isn't explained well or at all in the plot while still being fairly important. The Dofus (Dofi?) being the most major one, I'd say, since a straight up Wakfu viewer probably won't know what the hell that's about. The Ogrest special, along with those other two, aren't really anywhere nowadays. Anywhere not totally shady, that is, they should plop those one Netflix if they haven't already.
Also, wasn't there one kid at the end of S2, in the credits? But it was like, only Eley or whatever, instead of a second one.
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>>89718698
she's french, so definitely alcoholic.
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>>89718845
problem?
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>>89725778
I don't recall either of the kids being in the credits. There's Pinpin watching Goultard VS Rushu with Rubilax in the magic mirror Shushu while Eva facepalms, still pregnant.

The next Wakfu manga should tell us whether they were twins, but I don't think they are.
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>>89725835
Ah, that's right. I guess I either misremembered them as Rubi, or was just remembering someone's artwork.
Cheers.
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>>89725877
Probably this, yeah, it also came to mind.
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>>89725635
Just beware that the first movie is a prologue. The party are not heroes yet, just normal people with some skeletons in their closets to get rid of.
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>>89694727
she's a drunken slut anon
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>>89726369
I'm okay with that, she's cute and has alright-ish maternal instincts.
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>>89726393
>maternal
She's barely out of schoolgirl phase. With all that hate fueled fighting, drinking and falling for the nearest smooth talking Iop. She's older sister tops,

To be fair, the hate might've been created by other Huppers blaming Julith and her trying extra hard to fit into Jurgen's boots, so its harder to blame somebody who's shown to be just normal, instead of hero material from the get go.
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>>89726452
>She's barely out of schoolgirl phase
And already she's pushing Joris's face into her tits the moment any danger arises, could you imagine the kind of sweet /ss/ she'd get into when she was finally mom age?
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>>89715372
No there's only the Brotherhood that wants to stop the gods. And he wants to kill the gods, very similar goals.
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>>89726473
Thats going a little far, she doesn't view Joris like that at all. She knows how important he is, but doesn't treat him as such.
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>>89726650
>she doesn't view Joris like that at all
Surely she'd feel different after giving him a bath and discovering that boy is packing a massive knotted dragon cock
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>>89726452
All she wants is to let loose. Be freed from the expectations of her perceived reputation and all of that shit. Getting a little shallow, meaningless dicking from an idiot-Adonis is just part of that. She'll get it out of her system and settle down eventually.
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>>89725536
My guess is that the little paws act like velcro patches, so only work if you have fur
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>>89726682
She is too distracted with Khan's sculpted body to think about Joris.
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>>89727713
Only before he proved too much of an ass, and that one time when she thought they were all going to die.

But his body sure was mesmerizing.
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>>89728474
She agrees
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>>89681644
anyone playing Krosmaga ?

any tipps how to win 5 times in a row ?

im stuck at 4 wins with Xelor
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>>89730325
Have a good balanced deck that allows you to place down summons as you need them. As well as having complimentary spells and infinites/krosmic cards that synergies with each other.

Did 7 wins in a row just recently. A lot of luck and playing Iop. Getting the right cards at the right time helps tremendously.

Thing with Xelor is that you need tanks to allow your Sinistro to do their job. Just be certain the enemy doesn't have curse cards to deactivate them.
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>>89730471
>Just be certain the enemy doesn't have curse cards to deactivate them.
thx for the tips, i always forget this
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>>89730325
Playing either Cra or Iop is a good start. I think I nailed 7 as Eniripsa early on, all in all I would say being able to play off board is important i.e. removals/cards that bounce minions into the hand.

As with all card games a good portion of luck helps, maybe more in krosmaga cause it sure is a wonderful time when you bang down 2 fake dofuses first and the opponent is going for real ones.
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>>89731572
Iop is very easy to understand and play, while Cra just has op spells.
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>>89731784
Iop also has crazy built in movement boost that coupled with the neutral ones just makes minions threaten your dofuses very quickly. But yeah Cra removal is insane in its volume as well as quality per mana that coupled with the many good range minions are a pain.

Granted turnaround removals like making an enemy minion into a friendly mummy/coney is REALLY strong but they just compete with Cra's arsenal when you consider the whole picture.
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>>89732142
>making an enemy minion into a friendly mummy/coney

I hate it when that happens to me. Be it an Ecaflip turning a summon into a bow meow. Or someone gets marline and uses him.
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>>89731784
>Cra spells
Every deck has op combos. And what is op in Cra is not removal, its ancestral bilibili and homing arrow.
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>>89732316
Plus the Storm Arrow.
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>>89732316
Not every deck has ranged minions that get a free attack lol.
Both Iop and Cra are brain dead because as soon as they get a single minion halfway up the map it's VERY easy to get fucked.

Cra removal is OP because she doesn't need to kill, she just needs to get it to the point where every minion you drop to stop dofus damage gets instantly taken out.
Your best case scenario is trading, for Christ sake. There is next to nothing that you can drop - especially early - that can tank Cra removal spell and her minion damage. 4 mana bomb arrow autoremoval not even included.

>>89730471
But that's fine.
Sinistro/Diod is 4/5 mana. If you place it on an empty row, you get a free direct hit or 3 mana worth of a curse card.
Then your opponent spends 3 mana curse removing it, and if you placed it on a fake dofus potentially another 3 mana if they want to curse down a real one.

With such low mana cards it'd be really rare if your enemy didn't have his first curse cards up anyway.
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>>89732316
>Every deck has op combos
Sure every god has somne strong stuff, Cra and Iop just has more and stronger ones. Ranged minions by themselves can generally trade up easily, provided they don't get played first and are paired against another 3 move one, and even then one of her many removal spells will turn it around and set the minion up for strong value.

Ancestral Bilibili is stron in and off itself for obvious reason, but coupled with the nature of Cra's ranged minion it just goes balistic.
>>89732209
Marline still makes your minion yours and doesn't instantly give him a minion right up your dofus, as strong as it is.
>Get Marline'd
>Adamai my new Marline back
>Marline back
Sometimes there is justice.
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>>89733301
Use your own removal, or charge.
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>>89733409
>tfw I don't have Adamai
I have used Lou (card 2) in a clutch move to get two curse cards and finish off a Dofus. It was my only move to make and I won. While they had 4-5 summons on the field.

It was glorious.
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>>89733494
I only have card 1 Adamai so far but it is strong enough. And the eniripsa card (name?) which bounces any 4AT minion into my own hand does the same thing only better, granted the cost is higher but 3/8 for 7 mana is more than fine when coupled with removal along with giving me his minion is one of the power moves of the class so I can't complain about "only" having Adamai 1.
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>>89733467
Oh shit nigger use cards I never thought of that?!
lol fuck off Cra. You're the reason I have to play Iop just to trash them every time And Iop is boring and broken as fuck.
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>Gods are real, semi-physical beings that interact with their followers on a daily basis
Be honest, would you choose which god you followed based on what you wanted to be or which god was best waifu?
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>>89735172
>that interact with their followers on a daily basis
Nah that doesn't happen, and probably not, since I -probably- wouldn't know for sure what they looked like.

I like the outdoor and plants so Sadida wouldn't be wrong I guess.
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>>89735172
>interacting
Not personally. Only the Iop god is all about living as a mortal.
Also, followers of a God are their own race, so its not voluntary.
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>>89735240
>>89735317
Nigga, did ya'll miss the episodes of Ecaflip full on hanging out with Kerub?
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>>89735317
>its not voluntary
Wrong, anyone can choose which god they wish to follow and thus change their race so long as it's before puberty, after puberty is when it stops being a choice.
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>>89735366
Did you miss why? And not even then daily. He was a special case.
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>>89735366
Yeah Ecaflip and Iop are so far the most hands on, besides Eliatrope literally nuking the mechasms.

Also reminder that Feka is a huge shit and the universe would be better off if she didn't exist.
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>>89735317
>Also, followers of a God are their own race, so its not voluntary.
Wrong, and wrong.

http://krosmoz.wikia.com/God
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>>89735403
>Also reminder that Feka is a huge shit and the universe would be better off if she didn't exist.
Well that is mor than I know, not that I know much about her. I guess I will find out sooner or later.
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>>89735404
He's a true enutrof after all.
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>>89735448
eh, she made the mechasims and Otomai made Ogrest.
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>>89735562
She made mechasms? That can destroy a planet each? Even as advanced as Eliotrope's?
Why
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>>89735602
Slow day presumably, or maybe they weren't as dangerous when she made them and they went full on replicator, and Quilby started swinging a stick at the hornets' nest.

Other than that, to the gods things we consider big aren't very significant.
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>>89735693
Gods created the Mechasms to turn the Wakfu in the Krosmoz into Stasis to reduce the power and influence of the Eliatrope goddess, something like that
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>>89735949
I was not aware wakfu was exclusively eliatrope positive. Who knows, they haven't got their shit together with the lore that much is certain.
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>>89735949
The speed at which some people pull shit out of their hats is astounding.
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>>89736146
It reminds me of the "Pandawa was some chick that just partied too hard and became a god" that survived for who knows how long.
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>>89736177
Well it's a fun story I guess.
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>>89718698
Isn't she a cow lady?
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>>89736203
Admittingly yes, but also very untrue regarding the nature of the gods.
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>>89730325
I tried playing this but it seems like everyone playing has some cheap bullshit that just lets them win which made it incredibly difficult to get into
the few times I won I only got like 5 fucking gold for it to
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>>89736346
You can play unranked for dailies. Also, neutral cards are pretty good until you get enough class cards
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>>89736390
that doesnt save me from xelors who can just instantly destroy a dofus because fuck you
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>>89736307
As far as Osamodas are cow people I guess.
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>>89736346
Yeah, they do that so you buy gold to buy the gold packs and purchase xp for your infinite cards.

They had a starter pack for $8 last month that gave you a lot of cards.

What I like about the game is that you don't really need to invest a whole lot into it. A game will last about 10 minutes tops. So you can play this while doing some cooking or whatever. Easy to play and you can quit without losing out to much of anything if you have an emergency.
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>>89736403
There should be enough beginners as well. At least enough not to meet full infinite and krosmic card decks
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>>89736403
>Timekeeper being the main problem
As dick as it may be I guess you have other problems. Cra has a decent basic deck and cards right of the bat that are nice. But sure you are at a disadvantage.
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>>89736444
Nice trips

Just wait for them to start releasing the other Gods.
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>>89736444
I just think its kind of horse shit that there are so many cards that can just win or give you a mass advantage and almost none of them are starting cards
I've seen people with 6 dice as ecaflip making it near impossible to even put a fucking card down
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>>89736534
Usually they are krosmics though.
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>>89736609
pretty sure dice are fairly cheap
60 of that energy at most
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>>89730325
My tip is simply, Don't play it.
Its some RNG P2W shit
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>>89736635
Yea h, but they can roll 1s too
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>>89736666
>rng
They removed quite a bit of rng outide of eca
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>>89736684
>if roll less then 4 then it returns to your hand

I don't think its a bad game by any means I just think its horseshit that its already gotten to the point where they want you to buy decks
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>>89736534
Fair enough, I can agree with that coming back from a problem can be hard, especially when you don't have a lot of cards and when an enemy minion gets to your dofus it is practically gone.
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>>89736722
Well, they said that they'll release pve this months and arena next. And rework dust/crafting system, because the current is too expensive.
So, they try to improve it.
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>>89690029
Dofus are dragon eggs. The plural for them is dofus as well, I think.
The dragons appear because, er, it's their eggs.

Ogrest collected all of them either to make her Sadida doll girlfriend alive, or because she screwed him over and just wanted the power for herself - this is not clear, it is a legend. But in the end, Ogrest with the power of the 6 dofus fought the Gods on top of mount Zinith to a standstill. His girlfriend then died, supposedly leapt off the cliff. Ogrest has been crying in sorrow ever since, flooding the world with his tears.
This is pre-Wakfu lore, from their older game, also titled Dofus. Wakfu is set ~1000 years after Dofus, with the world broken up to small islands due to Ogrest's Chaos.

The 6 dofus Ogrest collected are from the World of Twelve. The 6 other ones are the Eliatrope councils, of which the 6 reincarnating Eliatropes and their dragon twins are eternally reborn from.
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>>89736886
>the plural for them is dofus as well

nu-uh, its dofeeses
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>>89736886
>Wakfu is set ~1000 years after Dofus
Dofus MMO: 634
Ogrest's Chaos: 789
Wakfu MMO: 969
Wakfu series: 981
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>>89681644
became this
>>89682931

Fucking shorthairfags, long hair is always better, far more elegant and feminine.
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>>89737042
>my wakfu character is 12 years older in the series
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>Stuns, charge and first strike out the fucking ass
Yep, Iop is balanced alright.
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>>89737579
While the other designs look nice in and off themselves I think they ended up with the best one for the character.
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>>89719105
Ecaflip was in the show?
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>>89737716
In the Dofus show he was.
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>>89737716
Yes in Dofus.
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>>89737667
I like how it appears someone said "let's give her a big ass" and they just went along with it
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>>89737827
I mean with how hard Kabrok got whipped he needed something to salvage his character
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>>89737827
Maybe, but I think it is the dress itself, like those old dresses with a bumpad.
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>>89719105
hips goddess
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>>89737443
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>>89739298
those fucking lips and the shark teeth
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>>89735602
They only attacked the eliatropes because qilby's a shit
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>>89716194
;-;
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>>89716854
Am I the only one who thought these mummies were incredibly powerful, then they just kinda got shat on by razortime?
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>>89742250
it's possible their strength was proportional to how much wakfu Nox gave them
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>>89694806
Best order is release order.
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Pls thread, don't die yet
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>>89748114
Too late.

Rest in ravioli.
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Ta! Lou Ferrigno tear! Poly Sci sinclair!
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>>89718882
I really shouldn't want to.
And yet I do anyway...
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>>89750642
To be fair she is kinda asking for it, I mean just look at her.
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>>89682931
Why would I want that when I can just straight up look at porn. I don't mind fan service, at all, but it's not something i'm going to fucking watch a show for. Jesus fucking christ.
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>Bought the art of wakfu except for the first one so far
>Can't find the bluray anywhere
>netflix about to expire and don't want to throw more money at it to catch up
Physical copies where?
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>>89752193
Blu-rays were Kickstarter exclusives, so unless you can find them second hand you'll have to settle for the Australian DVDs.
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>>89697662
8/10
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>>89752193
Ebay or get the Australian DVDs
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Anyone feeling cautious optimism for season 3?
Because I feel cautious optimism for season 3.
>inb4 Tot continues his crazy ride
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>>89737068
Actually having long hair sucks though. Takes ages to wash and maintain
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>>89754537
But it is so beautiful.
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>>89754537
>being this lazy
Give me your hair if you're not going to use it
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Link to Tome 4?
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>>89735172
>semi-physical
Physical. They just exist on a higher plane and operate by different rules. They're not 'abstractions' at the very least
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>>89736343
>>89736203
What are and aren't the facts here. I've been out of the loop for years. Last I heard Qilby pissed off the mechasms who were an unknown in terms of backstory. Elia nuked them. People got the fuck out. Council of 12 founded the world of 12 and built the whole thing up. Mechasm comes. Elia's either flee to the pocket world or fight. Mechasm is killed and the WoT is sent back into being a barren shit hole like anywhere else in the early Krozmos. Later some of the pantheon turn up specifically Osu and Xelor iirc and start investing their time in the WoT. The rest of the pantheon eventually forms and the WoT is coincidentally reborn. Later Yugo wakes up and ascends to God-hood making him a cosmic-demiGod and a regular God.
Where does the new Mechasm info come from?
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>>89736886
>Ogrest collected all of them
The primordial ones. There are other than Osa's primordial set and Elia's children.
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>>89755614
Latest gist is the planet was around when the (then) 10 got to it, which was after the derpatropes derped all over it for the mega-mechasm orgonax to bite the dust. They then fixed it up and eventually Sacrier and Pandawa went from smaller spirits and became gods and they were the 12.
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>>89755676
No yeah I get that but what is all this about the Mechasm being made by a known God and all that. I don't recall any of that and those other anon's were saying it was just a 'story' people believed.
see:
>>89735403
>>89735448
>>89735562
>>89735602
>>89735693
>>89735949

Where is all that coming from and what is headcanon shit posting versus legit sourcable lore
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>>89755727
Ye I dont know about that, I have may have heard about feca making them. But for that purpose is new and I havent seen anything solid on it
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First look at the new dog class
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>>89755727
>>89755811
A drawing in an old AnkaMag had Orgonax with Feca's symbol on his body, which started the whole "Feca made them" theory.
It's unconfirmed and could have been retconned
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>>89755952
Interesting but suspicous. I don't recall feca being any sort of pantheon powerhouse. To be making some thing like those would put them beyond WoT planetary pantheon tier into Elia/Xelor tier of strong and reckless.
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>>89755815
>ouig's have a God now
I thought they were just sapient humanoids like the Koala's.
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>>89681644
I'm late. Where are you guys watching this?
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>>89756003
Maybe she asked Osamondas?
>>89756024
I think only people who were a part of crowdfunding got to see the first episodes. Proper release in June, I think.
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>>89756003
I remember reading a theory that it was the 10's first try at creating a species, or at least Feca's first try. Hopefully we'll know someday
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>>89756091
>Eliatrope's first race is Eliatropes and Qilby
>Feca's are mechasms
>Sadida's are dolls one of which caused the flood and another that killed Iop god
Eniripsa is best. No harm from them yet.
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>>89756043
Osa's big dick wave is the primordial dofus. Even Xelor relies on them. Surely he'd let everyone know if he'd also made the mechasm. It's sort of a big deal. Further, what were the 10 even up to before that point? How powerful were they? The timeline has mechasms back quite a way. Unless the pantheon grows in power in the future and Feca makes them then it's a bit questionable.
>feca makes cool new creatures
>xelor and or the tick/tock shushu whisk them off to the past
I'd be sort of happy with that has an explanation if it let the time shitters get some more spot light.

>>89756091
First 10 weren't doing anything like that in that time period iirc. Remember WoT was barren when they arrived and that's after Elias found, aggrevated, nuked, escaped, founded a new planet, got chased and finally finished off their persuer PLUS the intermidiate time between the fight leaving WoT barren and the 10 coming to found it.
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>>89755727
The creation of Mechasms was explained in a Dofus Mag so I think it may be official
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>>89756144
Do you know the details and or have the source at hand?
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So, whats next for Ogrest?
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>>89717564
But Chibi is cute! I wanna cuddle him and Yugo.
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>>89756907
>I was hoping that season 3 of wakfu would've had the children of the old cast as teens, and ogrest would've fit in that crew just right.
Chibi and his dragon
Grovy's two kids
Ogrest
Ruel because they need an old man taking care of them

obviously this did not happen, but ogrest could still appear there.
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>>89757395
>Ruel because they need an old man taking care of them
How old is he?
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>>89758621
As balls.
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>>89757320
No hugs for Chibi
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>>89758621
He and Alibert are around 200 years old, I don't remember the exact number.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWjf3tokWM
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>>89759163
Every class ages differently here?
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>>89755363
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fa816sq5vs2cq52/WAKFU+Manga+04+EN+-+L%27Errance+des+Eliatropes.cbz

>>89755727
>>89755952
>>89756003
Here is said image. It's easy to make assumptions based on it, but you'd have to at least take into account that he used at least 5 different gods' imagery as reference. Based on that you could at least suggest that the Mechasms were fabricated by a certain number of gods rather than Feca specifically, but it's still just a wild guess. If you think about it, Osamodas worshippers for instance look like him, but he didn't *create* them all the same. It's not entirely impossible that Mechasms worshipped one or many of the gods regardless of how they came into contact with them. They travelled the universe extensively, as did the gods.

>>89756022
I look forward to seeing whether it's another facet of an existing god or someone new.
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>>89759277
Enus get old quickly (depending on how in tune they are with their god, hence why Ruel looks a lot older than Alibert) then stop aging for about 200 or so years.

Xelor live a long time but their bodies turn to dust held together by wakfu. Count Harebourgh is 300+ years old.

Don't know about other races.
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>>89759277
I remember reading that not all classes live equally long lives, but I'm not sure if it was a theory or canon.
It said Xelors and Enutrofs were the ones with longest lifespans (200+ years) while other classes lived for about ~100 years.
Alibert though isn't good enough of a believer to not age after 200 years but that's probably Ankama not thinking much about it.
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>>89756136
>Further, what were the 10 even up to before that point? How powerful were they?
According to the artbooks, the World of Ten was far from the first planet they took under their wing (they were running out of names for their worlds, hence the choice of referring to their number). There's one not-so-subtle reference to Iop letting the dinosaurs go extinct on Earth, which was under his care, by not preventing a meteor shower.

As for power, it's hard to say. Since they gain power from worship, we'd have to assume they were already worshipped in other worlds, but we don't know anything explicit about that. All I can tell you is that while they were resetting the World of Ten there were countless small spirits watching but shying away because of the difference in power between them and the Ten.

>>89758621
>>89759163
Roughly 220 in season 3.

>>89759513
Count Harebourg is a demigod, so not a reference. Life spans are definitely longer than in real life, but with every other character turning out to be a demigod it's hard to put a number on it.
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>>89759313
Ouginak is an old hidden facet of Ecaflip. It seems he was a dog with a flaming jaw for a while when he was young. They said ir was not an alter ego though, but it's confirmed it was him.
The young Ouginak found a bone during one of his travels, the very own bone that Mongrelamus accidentaly ripped a hole between the Demon's and God's realms to hide. He then bit it with his flaming jaw and from the burnt pieces of that Bone the Ouginak class was born
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>>89759753
What was the point of Harebourg freezing himself in the OVA?
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>>89759990
It looked to me like Echo was doing it since it originated from her fingers and the spikes were going away from her. Either way, they said he needed time to reflect on his mistakes.

>>89759795
So the Ouginaks were created at a time when there was no life on the WoT? Where did they appear and how did they get to the WoT?
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>>89760470
No, they were created after they created life in the WoT. In fact, I just now realize when the character says "quand il explorait le monde encore jeune" he meant "when he explored the still young world" and not "when he explored the world, still young". I must have been drunk when I first read that.
The literal translation from what the character says is:
"When he explored the world still young, the Ouginak god found the bone. He broke it in his flaming jaws to savour the substantific marrow. The first Ouginaks were born from the burnt bits of that bone, which is said to come from the carcass of a dead god from before the dawn of time."

As for Ecaflip and Ouginak's relationship, I found a site that summarizes what they say in the game instead of the vague stuff I had found until now.
The Ouginaks say Ecaflip is but a pale reflection of the Ouginak god, and that Ecaflips are just Ouginak worshippers that are afraid to admit it.
Ouginak and Ecaflip are two faces of the same coin, creating a paradox that causes a lot of trouble in Inglorium. Nonetheless the devs said that Ouginak is not an alter ego of Ecaflip, which is probably what makes this such a mess.
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>>89762026
Considering Ougnaks aren't around in the Wakfu era I'd say Ougnak was a lesser spirit whohad the potential to be a god, but got his but whooped by Ogrest or lost most of his worshippers and was severly downgraded by Ogrests' Chaos killing most of his followers.
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>>89762026
Source? I can read French.

>>89762295
Ouginaks will be in Wakfu.
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>>89716788
>Kerub vs. Julith

Anyone got the webms for this fight?
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>>89762399
>Ouginaks will be in Wakfu.

Oh, I thought they were only gonna be in Dofus. Maybe there was a period between the eras he had to build up followers to matter again?
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>>89696253
Nigger watching paint dry can be fun with the right friends, that is in no way a legit defense of the game. Wakfu has major issues when it comes to the cohesion of its ideas and it leads to a boring messy game.
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>>89762399
Here you go https://rpdofus.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/ouginak-informations-du-background/
The rest of the info I got is from the last twitch video in the official account, but what they say there (except the "it's not an alter ego") is also in this link.

>>89762637
We still don't know what happened to the Ouginaks, most likely got secluded in some island they'll unlock when they put them in the game (which will be second half of 2017).
Although I hope it's something different since that's pretty much what happened with Huppermages already.

On the other hand, the reason why they appeared now in Dofus is because they're being called for an important Ouginak reunion and actually trying to convert people, but there were always small tribes like the ones that can be fought in Sidimote
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>>89759513

>Harebourg

Cutest Xelor
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>>89763752
Source on that image?
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>>89763946
It's from the Ogrest comics
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>>89763984
Thanks.
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>people talking about the lore of the gods
>It's never about your favorite god.
Sacrier is suffering
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>>89764226
Yes, that's what sacriers do
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>>89764226
>Sacrier is suffering
Isn't that their whole ideology?
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>Amalia is becoming less curvy, more clothed and her tits are shrinking as she gets older.
This cannot be allowed to continue. How do we stop this?
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>>89764226
At least she's not Feca.
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>>89764226
Well, it's been a while since they did anything with her, but at least she's still one of the few gods with actual developped background.
It could be worse, she could be Feca, or Cra, or hell, I don't think there's even one legend about Eniripsa.
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>>89730325
>Omelet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vtNZqzbXkk
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>>89764362
>they are getting old
>soon they will be gone
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>>89762908
Thanks. Between them saying that it's not a split personality, that they're both sides of a same coin, that their followers deny each other's god's existence and that there will still be only 12 gods, I feel like we didn't really learn anything conclusive here. I could even believe the recent comment by a dev suggesting that their god doesn't even exist.

That aside, something about Ouginaks doesn't sit right with me. They're a lot more bestial-looking than even the other "not quite furry" classes if you look at their facial features, they're very tribal and cut off from the rest of the world, and they seem very primitive in how they live and spend their time fighting other clans and monsters. They seem to be on the same level as Kanigers, for instance, or hell even Bworks. I find it hard to accept that they're supposed to be on a level with other classes as humans.
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>>89737579
>>89737667
So, were there any resolution to picrelated? Was the kid ever shown or mentioned?
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>>89767088
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>>89767200
>We'll probably never see their daughter all grown up and becoming the new Black Raven.
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>>89767200
>even after childbirth she still has DEM HIPS
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>>89767517
>as if DEM HIPS supposed to get smaller after birth...
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>>89767566
Well with the way Ankama are making their designs less curvier you can never be too careful.
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>>89759313
Thank you very much for this.
>5 different God's
Well that spices things up doesn't it. You don't get many multiclassers and certainly not any more than two. It's interesting but even more confusing.

>facet
The blurb seems to be angling at a new God but I'd rather another facet than a lower spirit. Further, unless their getting added to Wakfu they'd also need to explain what happened to the spirit or facet of the God.

>>89759753
That would make sense. You'd need to be worshiped elsewhere to get powerful enough to found the planet, dominate time and form enternal Dofus.
It begs the question of who exactly started the whole creation process though given that at the very begining of the Krozmos it would just have been lesser spirits kicking around. I suppose a group effort and then competition for followers from there.

>>89762026
That's some cool exposition
>not an alter ego
>yet their doing the duality thing
Oh boy

>>89762399
>Ouginaks will be in Wakfu.
Did Humpermages?
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>>89764226
Just reread the comic about her chosen champ or whatever that was.
Maskemane is the best comic in their selection

>>89765567
>I could even believe the recent comment by a dev suggesting that their god doesn't even exist
So then it WILL be a case of dual personality, or rather, another God taking advantage of an empty worship role whether it fucks Eca or not.

>>89767605
The shrinking curves truly are unsettling
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Found some interesting info in the game files (not localized yet) that would confirm that Ouginak is a separate entity. Coming from Kerub Crepin:
>718745: Imaguni n'est pas qu'une magicienne particulièrement douée : elle possède certains dons de voyance... et elle est aussi la fille du dieu Ouginak. Il fut un temps où nous parvenions à nous entendre, elle et moi. Les Ecaflips et les Ouginaks ne sont pas toujours à couteaux tirés... *pousse un profond soupir en pensant à une certaine Lou*

>Imaguni is not only a very talented magician: she has a certain gift of foresight... and she is a daughter of the god Ouginak.

Apparently Imaguni is rallying Ouginaks but also driving them to abandon worship, since she works for the Brotherhood of the Forgotten. Presumably that's why the Ouginak leader asks for Kerub's help despite the animosity between Ouginaks and Ecaflips.
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>>89768284
>driving them to abandon worship
What a legitimately awful daughter. You still say they'll be in Wakfu though? Because this looks like the perfect set up to have them stay in Dofus given her success will mean the diminishment of a God and the exstinguishing of a following.
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>>89768284
Thry could be parts of dual god. I mean god of luck can govern both luck and lack of it,
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>>89768127
As far as I can tell, the first ten gods were kind of above the rest from the start, kind of like the first six Eliatropes and like the first ten demons (of which only Rushu remains, except for whatever's left of Mongrelamus). Maybe some life appeared spontaneously as well, or was created by dragons. We don't really know how many dragons were born directly from the Great Dragon without being related to the Eliatropes, but there's at least the three that hang out with Osamodas, and at least one of those had another relative. Maybe they used the same trick for other planets before they found the WoT.

>>89768350
Yeah they've already announced that Ouginaks will be coming to Wakfu MMO as well, they just want to finish their current work on class balance before they get to Ouginaks IIRC.
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>>89768469
I suppose it would make sense in Krozmos lore that certain chunks of energy would coalesce into larger beings even before worship. As you say, it's the same thing with the shushu.
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>>89768208
>The shrinking curves truly are unsettling
A good thing they kept hers as big as ever then.

Possibly even bigger!
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>>89762509
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>>89768127
Huppermages are in Wakfu, pretty much all their skills are just copied from other races though (doesn't even hide that, skill descriptions outright read "a skill borrowed from the _______ class")
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>>89769671
Are they more unique in Dofus? Iirc they aren't a divine class. They're just abusing knowledge yes? It would then make sense that they're capable of emulating other abilities in Wakfu. Though I did hear people mention a HumperGod so I am getting mixed signals.
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>>89769710
No idea, never played Dofus

They look a lot funner though bouncing around the map with their light swords and shit though, fuck mang, Wakfu is so boring with tiny animations for every move.
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>>89769710
No god, just a set of principles of neutrality and some mystic force they call the Krosmic Balance.
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I Want to see a series where we see joris life and all the people he likes dies , like , he tells storys to someone about how this X person die
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Those swords look sufficiently badass.
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