If aliens use magic, is it magic, or alien tech?

Magic unless they need to use devices

>>89681230

Alien technology except for the stuff they can do naturally, like holograms and fusion and shit.

>>89681409
Is that magic, or is it just a natural capability, like a spider making webs?
What if gems ARE technology? What if they're magic?

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Its heresy is what it is

>>89681230
I though Gem Tech was based on Dildos?

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it depends if both magic and science exist in the alien's culture and if they aknowledge it as magic.

>>89681230
>if aliens use magic
It's magic. You already said it was magic.

when humans use magic it's magic
when humans use technology it's technology
when aliens use technology it's alien technology
so if aliens use magic it's alien magic

>>89681230
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

It's only magic if the people using it can't fully understand it.

None of it is magic. That's just what they call it around primitives.

Do they consider it magic?

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke

>>89682462
So is it magic or not?

What if you place a bunch of wizards on different planets and they teach aliens?

Can a robot learn magic?

>>89681230

Pretty much this >>89681873

In a lot of magic based stories, the high level users often admit this, that magic is basically science working through the medium of something with a personality, like a demon or spirits, in order to get things done. Dr Strange is a good example of this, where everything is just physics, energy manipulation, and fighting over a good old power source.

Stuff from other mediums just straight out admits it, like Gravity Falls or Fullmetal Alchemist.

>>89681230
Magic if they consider it so.
Also technology can be magic as well.

Magic isn't real so it's solely based on whatever arbitrary details you believe make something magic.

>>89682509
Probably depends on the kind of magic.

>>89682462
It ceases to be magic if the user treats it like science and completely understands it. That's why none of Thor's powers are magic.

>>89682663
Does that mean none of Strange's powers are magic too?

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>>89681536
Technically if the aliens are doing it themselves its foul Xenos Witchcraft and/or Technomancy, not heresy. Aliens they are always going to be outside of the divine race of man, which means that by default they can never have been part of the Imperial Cult. If they were never part of the faith they can't have broken with it enough or perverted its doctrines for it to be heresy.

S'the whole point of having three Ordos, man. Enemy Within, Enemy Without, Enemy Beyond and all that.

>>89681873
>>89682462
>technology can do the same things magic does if i spout enough technobabble
sci fi wirting 101

>>89683151
Once you can manipulate shit on a quantum level you can do almost anything

>>89682733
Psst, what about the Ordo Chronos?

>>89682701
Yep

>>89682701
all magic is called technology in marvel, otherwise iron man would get sad

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>>89682509
magic is magic. Regardless of what race/species uses it.

>>89683474
until they find shit that's even smaller that needs another set of rules
rinse and repeat

>A mistaken association of similar ideas produces homoeopathic or imitative magic: a mistaken association of contiguous ideas produces contagious magic. The principles of association are excellent in themselves, and indeed absolutely essential to the working of the human mind. Legitimately applied they yield science; illegitimately applied they yield magic, the bastard sister of science. It is therefore a truism, almost a tautology, to say that all magic is necessarily false and barren; for were it ever to become true and fruitful, it would no longer be magic but science. From the earliest times man has been engaged in a search for general rules whereby to turn the order of natural phenomena to his own advantage, and in the long search he has scraped together a great hoard of such maxims, some of them golden and some of them mere dross. The true or golden rules constitute the body of applied science which we call the arts; the false are magic.

>>89683848
This. It is like you niggas never heard of Magic the Gathering. Throughout the multiverse, there are many magic users and plainswalkers. So while Dr.Strange is a big deal in the MU, other plainswalkers will tell you that others like him are a dime a dozen, and that their are magical beings and users that shit on them.

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>>89683690
I see.

>>89681873
Not really. There comes a point

Magic is just using super science to hack the source code of the universe anyway.

>>89682509
I don't think the statement is supposed to apply to magic. I think it applies to technology that is strictly technology but beyond the our understanding.

So if you go back in time with a lighter and aerosol and start shooting fireballs, people will think it's magic despite it being tech. If you go back in time and just throwing magical fireballs, people with think it's magic and it will be magic.

>>89681554
In Trials in Tainted Space there are hardlight dildoes.

What's will all this retardation.

Magic is a mystical resource, technology is an application of a resource.

They're not mutually exclusive and they're not the same because they're two entirely different categories of things altogether.