Did this movie do ANYTHING right?

>>89665084
Failure.

>>89665084
Diversity.

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Of course it did. It ended

>>89665084
Pants aside, Thing looked alright. Thats all I got

I don't love the Fantastic Four, but this movie seemed like it was actively trying to make me hate them

>>89665084
Concept of Reed and Ben being freinds since Childhood could work. But nuking Ben being a Test Pilot/Astronaut was a bad move.

Also trying to hard to add diversity by making Sue the adopted one and then the stupid Spec Ops bit.

Flat out Reed needs to be the older Established Scientific Genius.

Having them be interdimensional explorers and scientists instead of the generic superheroes the 2000's movies went with.

Despite looking nothing like the character, Michael B. Jordan did a pretty good job. Everyone else was terrible.

>>89665084
Failure; making Fox more of a laughing stock than any previous film could (yes, even the Chipmunks films); ruining any future attempt at a FF film; Killing Trank's career, the list goes on.

And, unpopular opinion time, The Thing's CGI wasn't as bad as the rest of the film.

>>89665084
I actually liked Reed in it.

>>89665649
Trank killed his own career when he tried shifting blame on his higher-ups on Twitter.

>>89665120
>inb4 all those tweets.

>>89665186
>Pants aside, Thing looked alright

>>89665649
>The Thing's CGI

Pretty much just THIS.

Weren't some people on /co/ unironically looking forward to this?

>>89669830

People thought it was going to be as good as The Dark Knight. I remember one guy on /co/ even swore that this would be the first superhero movie to get the Oscar for Best Picture

>>89665975
Tweets?

>>89665649
>And, unpopular opinion time, The Thing's CGI wasn't as bad as the rest of the film.
How is that an unpopular opinion?

IT'S CLOBBERIN TIME

The Denny's food.

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>>89665084
It didn't get a sequel after the end heavily implied it.

>>89665649
Trank wasn't ready for Prime Time.

Hollywood has been without a Spielberg for almost two decades now and its showing.

>>89665084
it strongly (and correctly) suggested that kate mara should not be seen

>>89665179
nice

>>89665084
Remember how crazy things got?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1502712/board/thread/247119192

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>>89671469
>Without a Spielberg

Hollywood really does have a problem with thrusting young directors into projects way above them, then blaming them when things turn to shit.

>>89665197
It was just a worse version of Ultimate Fantastic Four, anon.

If they were going to chide FF fans for being racist for thinking a black Human Torch was weird, why didn't they also make Sue Storm black too? Or why didn't just cast Michael B Jordan as Reed instead? He fit the role more than Miles fucking Teller did.

>>89665084

The answer is 'no'. It's actually amazing: NOTHING about it was right.

>>89674214

Did anyone actually use the term 'blackwashing'?

>>89665084

I actually liked it.
But that was mostly before they actually became superheroes and I wasn't associating it with the comics (or cartoon or other movies) at all.

It felt like an interesting short movie by itself that got sloppy at the end.

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>>89670882
This I guess

>>89665084
It's fantastic.

>>89674409
It's four

It accurately portrayed Reed as a bit of an asshole.

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>>89665084
Ben's transformation.
Their aim to be more of a sci-fi thriller than a comic book movie really confused the production, but one thing it 100% worked for was the way The Thing was created.
He didn't just wake up to find all his body parts were made of rock, no he was SOLID rock. Something went wrong and all he could do was yell for help since he couldn't move or even open what he thought were his eyes to see what he'd become.
DAYS later we see he's just been struggling to slowly crack and break his mass into a vaguely human shape and he's still not even half way there, and he's STILL panicking, pleading for someone, anyone, to help him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haT62y-p6uU

The thing desigh is very cool

>>89674919

>Made of solid rock
>Can barely move
>But somehow not only retains the ability to speak, but even has the same voice

>>89674955

Would you say it was cooler than the comic book design, or the first or second movie designs? And if so, in what way?

>>89674991
It's weird yes but realistically without his ability to talk he would have never been distinguishable from the rest of the rubble and would have just been disposed of in the cleanup and presumed dead, removing him from the rest of the movie.
But yes, I do thing thematically it would have been better to have his mouth and throat just be the first thing he developed on his new body, due to his constant attempts to scream.

>>89665084
The soundtrack was pretty good, I guess.

Still don't know how they convinced Phillip fucking Glass to compose for this thing, though.

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>>89665084
YFW you will never see the original cut of this film.

I refuse to watch it until its leaked.

>>89665792
Be to honest, it was a rare time where the film's failure were both the fault of the director and the higher ups.

>>89674046
At least Shyamalan is making a comeback, a small one but a comeback nonetheless.

>>89675071

The movie should never have been made this way. Fantastic Four is not horror. Period.

>>89675389

That is a wise decision.

>>89665084
The chemistry between the group was nice - everything went well up until they breached the dimensional barrier. Then everything went tits up.
Blame the sony execs.

>>89675389
There is no "original cut". Trank fell spectacularly behind schedule and didn't even have a complete movie when Fox decided to take over.

>>89675409
Come on, there are a ton of movies where the faults lie both on the director and the higher ups.

See: DCEU

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Jamie Bell and Kate Mara are married now, so I guess at least it benefitted someone.

It succeeded in being depressing.

>>89677869
Wait, really? Thought he was with the chick from "West World"?

>>89677869
Now this is making me think Miles Teller should play The Maker in the MCU

>>89675611
Sony didn't make the film.

>>89681690
I could defo see it (not that he'd go back to the role.) how would that work, though?

>>89665084
Autistic Reed

>>89675587
>Fantastic Four is not horror. Period.

No, it sort of was at the start. The first issue seemed more like another Marvel Monster comic where the protagonists happened to be superpowered.

I mean, I'd rather it be science exploration than horror or even superhero than horror, but a horror take is still fair game.

>>89665084

I got the rights back to Disney.

>>89680728
They separated years back.

>>89681721
I doubt it'd happen because Fox would still technically own Fant4stic, but ideally if Marvel, Sony, and Fox work together they could acknowledge a Marvel multiverse more overtly. I mean allegedly Sony was thinking of doing a crossover between the Toby Maguire Spider-Man and the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man.

>>89681764
Nope. That deal was purely for Spider-Man.

In 9 years or so we'll see another copyright extender.

>>89665179
>it ended

>"it's just fantastic"
>"say that again"
>"fantastic?"
>"OK I got it!"

>>89665084
Kept the FF rights from Disney/Marvel for another few years.

>>89674214
Black Reed is the obvious way to go, but Fox clearly didn't want to try anything. Black guy is supposed to be the cool one, so that means he has to be Johnny.

>>89675423

>has to hide his name up until people get into the theatre to watch the movie

i guess.

>>89674046
The problem is that executives like control. They can control a young inexperienced director far more easier then an older one. Unfortunately, part of being a good director is knowing when to tell the executives to shut up. As a result the movies don't come out right and the director gets the blame.

>>89665084

It flopped. Hard. Thats about the only thing FF movies can do right. Which is good, because the FF is one of the most boring, shitty super teams, and they really need to just be retired.

>>89681840
Ah. She's his babymama, though, right?

>>89681940
Idk, Fox let the rights for DD and Ghostrider revert back to Marvel.

>>89684412
Yeah, she is.

>>89684525
Fox didn't have Ghost Rider.

>>89685016
Sony, right?

>>89685016
My B. Still, Fox let DD revert even when Marvel offered to extend the rights in exchange for Galactus and Silver Surfer. So Fox is clearly willing to let go of these franchises when they don't have a clue as to what to do with them.

>>89685118
Disney got the rights back, didn't they?

>>89685957
Yes. That's why GR showed up in AoS.

How is this different from any other capeshit movie?

>>89681729
Reed is autistic tho

Trank was slated to direct a fucking Star Wars movie until this shit happened. How do you manage to fuck up your career so bad?

>>89665120
>making the woman hunting rebel black
>keeping his sister white because they don't trust a black woman to bring in the same number of people

>>89686239
He said he chose to drop out but you can tell he got fired due to his spoiled brat personality he achieved due to the surprise success of Chronicle.

>>89665084
well, it did end

imagine how much worse it would be if this were a show FOX were determined to push just to stick it to Marvel

>>89686322
Man Michael B Jordan dodged the bullet thanks to Creed saving his career from going down the tube, as well as Kate Mara.

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>>89677869
well shit

>>89686359
The movie was made just so that they can keep the rights, they didn't even care if it bombed. It was made just to spite Marvel.

>>89677869
>They ARE engaged.

Well shit, it's shaping up to be another Green Lantern Ryan Reynolds/Blake Lively situation.

>>89686331
That and cause Simon Kinberg was also producing that Star Wars spinoff, and Fant4stic.

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>>89671361
I remember that shit

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>>89686520
Hes gonna be the new Goyer/Orrci/Kurtzman/Lindelof if he isn't already

>>89686456
>>89677869
So it's a reverse-Gigli.

>>89686331
Yeah there's not a chance in hell that he made that choice on his own.

>>89686415
Well, that's shitty and its damaged the IP.

>>89686239
What happened with Trank anyway? Seems like he dropped off the face of the planet since Fant4stick came out.

>>89686541

Holy fuck, why is the invisible girl stuff not slimming or healthy? Is that not the joke?

>>89688337
>What happened with Trank anyway?

Perhaps blacklisted by Hollywood? I almost feel bad for him, almost.

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>>89688337
>>89688452

It seems he is directing an Al Capone movie starring Tom Hardy, he is alright.

http://www.avclub.com/article/josh-trank-back-making-al-capone-movie-tom-hardy-245069

>>89665084
Short Answer: NO

Long Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...times infinite.

>>89665084
It had the most natural naming of a team I've seen in a superhero movie. That whole scene just felt so right.

>>89686456
>Bad superhero movies bring happy couples together

The silver lining.

>>89681940
>In 9 years or so we'll see another copyright extender.

Problem is Fox had a really bad track record with the F4 films. And wouldn't they rather spend money on the properties they own outright (like doing another Alien or Predator film) or even a property they don't own that does reasonably well for them (Apocalypse was bad but Deadpool did really well) over a property that barely made money back at best, and a money sinkhole at worst?

This isn't like Hellraiser where the box office performance of the previous films did well enough to make it a viable property, so doing shitty direct-to-dvd films to keep its rights was a risk work taking (especially when you could make money with Hellraiser merchandise).

>>89686415
>they didn't even care if it bombed.

If they didn't care they wouldn't have ordered the reshoots and just let Trank's film go as is without the finished ending.

They did likely pick Trank because not only did people think he'd be the next Spielberg or whatever, he also did Chronicle low-budget and got far more than its budget back.

>>89688163
It's also not true. They did rush into development without a clear concept in mind, but no studio pours so much money into a high-profile project just out of "spite".

>>89685118
Yeah, Sony did the two Ghost Rider films.

>>89688968
They picked Trank because he was already an in-house director with a succesful movie under his belt, but still not big enough he would clash with them over production.

In theory, of course.

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Pic related was a genuinely cool shot...

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Doom's design was poor, that said I genuinely like the neon green cracks on him.

>>89681940
>That deal was purely for Spider-Man.

Spidey is still with Sony's, the whole MCU thing is some sort of special collaboration that who knows how long it's going to last, once it's over Sony can still shit out Spider-man reboots forever to retain the rights.

Avi Arad is also still pushing for the Sony's Spider-movie-verse this time without Peter Parker, there is an upcoming solo Venom movie and that Miles Morales Animated movie that are both independent from the MCU, unless Kevin Feige convinces him of how stupid that idea is.

>>89688968
>Chronicle low-budget and got far more than its budget back.

Allegedly the original Josh Trank version was supposed to be set in the same universe as Chronicle, the crystals that gave the FF their powers are suppose to be the same ones that gave the teenagers in Chronicle their powers and there was going to be more references to that movie.

>>89689097
It could have worked if he wore a mask over that, making it the 'scar what Richards did' he hides

>>89689813
That's a lie and has always been.