What went wrong?

What didn't?

YouTube.

>>89633955
This. There's a whole documentary about it too.

>>89633986
is it on YouTube?

>>89633805
We stopped being 12 and edgelords

>>89634131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9QYpofBmPs&

>>89634442
oh shiiiit it's Jazza

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Tom Fulp took too long to adapt Newgrounds in time for it to successfully compete with YouTube
YouTube, at the time, made it possible for independent animators to live off their animations through monetization where Newgrounds didn't, so animators had few reasons to stay on NG anymore and even then they'd still link their YouTube videos whenever they uploaded to Newgrounds, effectively making Newgrounds a backup site to gain a bigger fanbase

Now Tom Fulp has to beg for donations to keep the site running and if you take off ad block you'll notice that Newgrounds has the same ads you'd find on 4chan

Newgrounds used to be "The Site" to go too but now when you mention it most people just go "that's still around?!"
Newgrounds is no longer relevant, fell from grace and can't sustain off donations for too much longer

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>>89635690
>Tom Fulp took too long to adapt Newgrounds in time for it to successfully compete with YouTube

Maybe it's better that way. I would rather it kept its old ways rather than become like modern Youtube. When Newgrounds dies off, at least it will be fondly remembered.

FACT: NEWGROUNDS WAS FUNNY WHEN WE WERE ALL 12 LIVING IN THE SUBURBS LISTENING TO LINKIN PARK WATCHING DRAGONBALL Z DRINKING PEPSI WHILE PLAYING HALO CO-OP ON THE EASIEST SETTING DURING WHICH WE CONSUMED DORITOS AND LOOKED AT PAINTBALL GUNS ON EBAY IN INTERNET EXPLORER CONNECTED THROUGH AOL ON A 56K MODEM BEFORE HOPPING INTO OUR BALDING FATHERS' LATEST MIDLIFE-CRISIS-IMPULSE-SPONSORED JAPANESE-BUILT SUV TO HEAD TO THE MALL AND GET MORE SKATEBOARDING SHOES AND THIRD-RATE IRREGULAR LEVIS AND MOUNTAIN BIKE PARTS BEFORE HEADING HOME, VOTING DEMOCRAT AND MASTURBATING TO THE LATEST SEARS CATALOG WHILE HUFFING PAINT IN YOUR GARAGE BEFORE TALKING TO PEDOPHILES ON AIM PRETENDING TO BE WHATEVER CAMWHORE THEY'RE RANTING ABOUT ON MYSPACE WITH A MATRIX QUOTE/ANIME CHARACTER NAME/TRIPLE SIX-ASTERISK-PARENTHESES-SURROUNDED SCREENNAME BEFORE HEADING TO YOUR SUPPOSED "GOOD SCHOOL" IN THE MORNING TO BUY MORE POT TO SMOKE DURING YOUR COUNTER-STRIKE LAN PARTY WITH JIMMY AND THE REST OF HIS FRIENDS TAKING RITALIN AND ADDERALL AND PROZAC EIGHT TIMES A DAY BEFORE TAKING A CASUAL PASS AT LOCAL, STATE OR NATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL FIGURES, LEGISLATURE, OR STRUCTURE TO APPEAR EDGY AND INTELLIGENT IN FRONT OF YOUR BUDWEISER-SNEAKING, LIMP-WRISTED, NEAR-TO-COLUMBINE SOCIOPATHIC "DEEP" FRIENDS WHO PLAY THE VICTIM WHEN THEY START LOSING ARGUMENTS SIX DAYS BEFORE THEIR BOTCHED SUICIDE ATTEMPT SIMPLY BECAUSE SCHOOL TRAMP NUMBER TWELVE WOULDN'T GO UNDER THE BLEACHERS WITH THEM TO LET THEM GET TO SECOND BASE BEFORE THEIR THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY.

>>89635856
It's not like he has to really change that much

I think all he really needed to do was set monetization and then Newgrounds would be set.

I mean, there's a bigger reason why people left for YouTube besides "new website new horizon"

>>89636932
And even then it wasn't funny.

>>89636932
When did Pan say that one?

>>89636999
You can monetize on Newgrounds.

I rewatched the Madness cartoons, and while the animation is still really fun to watch, it can't escape the feeling that it was made in the mid-2000s (Matrix references everywhere, OH TEH NOEZ being used, etc).

>>89636932
man you couldve made that two thirds less wall o text to get your point across and it wouldve been funny and not just a booty busted nostalgica rant by an underage b& or super oldfag

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>>89633805

>no new Meet N Fuck games
>no new Maple Syrup VNs

that's what went wrong

>>89636932

>This entry has been rejected due to incompleteness or lack of notability.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/newgrounds-was-funny-when

didn't newgrounds always have problems making money in the first place?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpGlw6GQUY

Truly the highlight of our times.

>>89637361
yeah, but that took a while to implement

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>>89637562
I always found ROTMK quite overdramatic, still it was pretty enjoyable.
>tfw you realized at the end it was all downhill from there for VGDC

>tfw you kept the homepage open in another window cause you liked the music

>>89637562
o shit
I remember watching that as a kid. I fucken cried when Mario died.

What about the flash animation games?

I can't think of another site that offers what newgrounds has in the game flash department.

>>89637642
Steam

YouTube, DA, Tumblr, Soundcloud, Steam all have what Newgrounds already has but they all had a hand in killing the website

I stopped going there in 2008 when I realized 8-bit theater was never getting another episode

>>89636932
Ah man, those were the days. I miss that shit; ignorance really is bliss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8

Things end

>>89637723
>8-bit theater
wew now thats a trip down memory lane

>>89637723
I wish instead of adapting the comic they just did original stuff. There was no way they were ever going to do the whole thing and the credits gags were usually the best part

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>>89633805
>watch brawl taunts in middle school
>funniest shit ever, me and my friends quote it all the time

>mfw remember it one day last year and watch it again

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I've heard that with the 2012 algorithm change, Tom is trying to pull animators back to his site with more ad revenue as a bargaining chip. Are there any updates on that?

>>89637836
Why the fuck did you remind me?

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>>89633805

>Play a game on Newground
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZz1N65YOjY
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg

The golden days of newgrounds are long gone

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The old Internet truly was something else. It really was something special back then. If only we knew just what we had.

>>89638103
Which was the last good year of the Internet?

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>>89638174
2006. If you really, really want to stretch it, 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdwze-Wj6_4
My all time favorite Newgrounds video. I used to sing this everyday when I was a kid.

Only fairly recently did I find out Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish was the guy who wrote this song, which is fucking awesome

>>89638188
Dammit, we didn't get Internet connection in my house until 2008. And even then, I didn't know shit of English, so yeah, I missed out most of the content.

>>89637309
Pan copypastas are the best I also love the one of the goth girl with the madcatz controller

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>mfw some of the first exposure to anime was from newgrounds
>it was of clips from a hentai show where girls shit themselves

>>89637836
Ohhh maaan brawl taunts and egoraptor were some of the main reasons why I started learning English. Good times indeed

>>89637536
I went on KnowYourMeme when I was the age of the kid in the copypasta.

>>89637847
>update on 2012
>still no one takes newgrounds seriously
>no porn animation still absent
What do you think?

>>89635856
>>89635690

I would think Flash itself was a factor.

There are so many better options for your animation and games these days than flash, even as an in browser app there is html5.

Aw shit nigga
https://youtu.be/FvRptLmapw0

>>89638188
speaking of old youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iFXyLah2oQ

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hokay
so here's the earth

>>89637847
>algorithm change

That's a trip.

https://youtu.be/H_slT5YpBok

>>89638447
New phones don't even support Flash

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>>89638443
>>89638485
Well, that certainly sucks. I was hoping I could get back to animating because it's the thing I truly prefer to do. I'm sure other animators want to as well instead of making talk shows and let's plays.

>>89638626

That's just fishing for excuses.

I bet you use toon boom.

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>>89638103

A decade from now we'll be fondly looking back on the current Internet.

The Internet is like the Wild West, and it's quickly being industrialized and domesticated. If you think it can't get any worse, you're wrong.

>>89638626
Why not just do it for the art? Is the money that important?

>>89638188
its 2008

>>89638684
I don't but it seems like a good program.
>>89638741
I do make some stuff for myself but I was an idiot and decided to make art my source of full-time income.

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>>89638803

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>>89638736
Oh, I know it can, and will, get worse.

>You thought the 2010s were bad? You think the Internet sucks now? You haven't seen anything yet.

At least I'll be killing myself before age 35, so I'll only have to watch the Internet's degeneration for about another 8 years or so.

>>89638819
>Princess and the Frog was made in Toon Boom.
And people still hate it?

>>89638857
You saw something wrong with the animation quality? Seemed fine to me.

>>89639019
No, no. My point was I find it hard to believe that people can hate Toon Boom if it brought us one of Disney's best-looking 2-D movies.

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>>89639068
Yeah, toonboom seems like a more solid version of Flash but instead of it's purpose being for online interactive advertisement banners, you actually have tools useful for animation of all styles.

To be fair, Princess and the Frog was hand drawn on paper and scanned because the animators hating working on the Wacom tablets so much. So Toonboom acted as a fancy compiling program.

>>89634442
This was a lovely video. Thank you so much for posting

>>89633805
fart jokes and the like infected everything

>>89638790
I'd say 2006 because 2007 is when the iPhone came out and Tumblr was founded

>>89638684
toonboom is amazing to use, flash is complete garbage.

>>89633805
It stopped appealing to ensuring animators. Now it's just a circle jerk of Shadman porn

>>89638841
>being 27

Why not save yourself your time and kill yourself when you turn 30

Here's an inspirational song to encourage you to do so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WF4FF8QrQE

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>>89633805
>making Mature harder to get to

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>>89633805
Did the Madness series ever end?

>>89640856

Neither of which had much impact until a couple years later, to be fair.

Youtube was the end of a lot of places like Newgrounds.

>>89633805
this:
>>89633955
well more specifically higher bandwidth and processing power.
NG was over invested in a technology that existed to cover a technical limitation.
today if you want to make an animation, you generate a video with a wide choice of tools, if you want to make a browser game you can make it with much more flexible and stable engines.

tl;dr:
it was a child of a time and place, that time is over.

>>89640856
I think everything hit critical mass around 2010/11 when the influx of normies became extreme.

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>>89638447
>have classic flash game I like to play time to time
>ran fine on 5 year old crap box 10 years ago
>most recent version of flash lets game bloat to most of modern PC's memory
every flash player update is worse, it's almost like they are trying to kill it off .

>>89633955
came here to post this.
all the good talent went away to jewtube.
which doubly hurt as google has a vandetta against them and banned them from googles ad service as well as toying with search results to put newgrounds behind.
soundcloud and the like took many of the best musicians away as well.
a few diehard fans stuck with it like harry partridge and sexual lobster.
they've recently had a surge of talent however, likely due to a successful donation/vip setup and adding cash prizes.
It's actually getting better unlike this place.
>TFW your account is a decade old.

>>89643075
Last one was years ago, guy's been working on a 3D game based on it

Do people still make flash games? Or did mobile games destroy that?

There's lots of good users on Newgrounds: supergandhi64, Doctorstrongbad, the mods, etc.

>>89638188

Most of those videos back then were either actual content or people doing irl sketches. Now, it's mostly politics and video game LP's.

>>89638803
I still do some animation even though I don't have any fans on newgrounds

>>89637847
>>89638443
porn has been getting frontpaged actually.
the art community has been exploding as well though I can't say much for games as most of them are shitty mobile turds being dumped for early testing and feedback..

>>89638365
remember the dating sims?
love hina and dna2 plus simgirl

>>89638803
You got a site?

>>89638174
the year myspace took off.
singular internet towns were merged into one cancer pool and normies were finally interested in the net because they could be vapid and narcissistic while trying to be popular.
with content feeds people didn't need to view a websites ad space either.

>>89638447
Which is nicer for web games anyway, js and canvases or js and svgs?

>>89638485
Half-way through the vid, I'm more interested in the ostriches than this pretentious guy complain about youtube changing their algorithm.

>>89643696
Destroyed.

https://youtu.be/EIyixC9NsLI

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>Retarded Animal Babies is dead.

>>89635690
Even knowing why it happened it still hurts. Its like putting down your retarded dog with rabies. You loved him even if he was retarded and then got rabies.

I spent so much time on Newgrounds 2001 to 2004 ish. Was in HS at the time. Really was the first "internet place" I went regularly. Sad to see what its become.

>>89643609
OG sexual lobster here. I been watching and loving it since the original episodes.

Any nuclear powered friends, my after school go to program was new grounds, nuclear powered and home star. Remember before skype when you had to make massive group calls to play vidya together?

>I weep for what ways
>seconds like sand lost
>youth wasted on pleasant wastes

>>89643696
Why make shitty games for free when you can make shitty games and have idiots pay 2.99 for it?

Yo so if newgrounds isn't a thing anymore then what do kids do in IT lessons

>>89643539
no one supports Flash any more. html5 is where its at

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You know what sucks the most about the wild west days of the 90s/early 2000s internet? The fact it will be completely forgotten. Its pop culture on top of pop culture and all the fond memories over the years can't be enjoyed by anyone in the future. All those sites are dead and what made them special isn't around anymore. Its not like some cartoon from the 1930s that was recorded to be replayed at a future point in time, it was an experience that when described sounds awful

"I waited 30 minutes to watch some 144p video for 30s seconds" Wow that sounds terrible, but at the time it was amazing. Its like riding your bike in a windy hailstorm to get to the store to buy some shitty candy with whatever pocket change you could scrounge up. Telling people it was an amazing experience you'll remember forever won't make any sense to them. Anyone can buy much better candy and being out in a hailstorm sucks.

Now the things kids these days enjoy will be hot garbage in a few months, they don't have to wait a decade like we did.

>>89644876
>Writing games in HTML5
Yeah, nobody does that.

>>89644889
Really depressing when you put it like that.

>>89644009
I remember Hot Goomba Sex

Mostly because I revisited it yesterday

>>89644889
It was just a placeholder until eMule, Kazaa and DC++ let you download actual shit to watch.

>>89636932
how'd you play ps3/pc games in your dad's suv while voting as a democrat and talking to pedophiles on a 56k aol modem?

>>89634442
oh the irony

>>89638470
Edgy and fake

>>89640856
iPhone, Tumblr Reddit, Hell, even Facebook didn't take off until around 2009

>>89644541
I think the last one came out in like 2011