How's Your Webcomic? #345

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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Well, if i can, i'll repost what i posted on previous thread

"I just stopped a hiatus on mine: month and half without updates.

At least i came back with two pages and with the determination and practice to start doing this weekly.

http://quinmael.tumblr.com/post/156678830344/come-here-to-read-the-new-pages-come-here-to

That link leads you to a post that give you the first page or the last update.

I hope one day it gets enough attention to earn at least enough to pay my colorist.

Also, if you could, give me some critic and vote on what will happen on the next pages, please."

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Reposting from last thread. Here's a weight loss comic i'm working on. It makes a lot of jabs at fat activists and has sort of an inspirational vibe to it.

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>>89585924
That's no fattie. That's a person of size, baby!

delete this

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Here's the next epilouge!

Next page is when the chapter starts

Let's see how many shit-eaters you recognize!

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>>89585508

still messing around with trope dykes

page 2: http://jesse-the-art-maker.deviantart.com/art/TROPE-DYKES-page-2-wip-2-660922068

>>89586848
i just told you how to spell epilogue last thread. you spelled embarrassing properly, though. that's a lot harder.
those are some kooky cameos, but who's the bigheaded guy in the wheelchair?
I'm still happy you got a readable font, but what are you using now to make the word balloons? it has weird ragged edges

>>89586848
You really aren't in the place to be calling those other artists shit eaters considering your own artistic track record, y'know.

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>>89586962

i also finally unveiled 2 cartoons i made up but never banked on last year

starting with the oldest one i came up with last M-geez

part 1/2

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>>89587043

2/2

this could of been a great animated cartoon or webcomic but i have to many other projects to work on to give this project any attention right now, what can you do?

>>89586967
I'm just using the same tool I use for my lines to make the word balloons
Also yeah, I'll remember spelling epilogue right, I'm pretty bad with that.
The red head in the wheel chair is supposed to be Aaron Diaz, He has a big forehead.

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>>89587062

and the second one i finally removed from the shadows of secrecy is my METEOR RANDOM project i came up with it last year but got distracted by making the best webcomic script ever made called FATES CHAOS and was super distracted by a handful of other project, and playing games, and marathoning new and old anime... yeah... i will give this project some love this year because it has a shitload of potential!

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I'm finally back and trying to consistently update now, I stopped being active on sites and stuff for a while because of other responsibilities but now the story can continue!

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>>89587159

part 2/2

>>89587142
Ohh I didn't notice your other lines have a ragged edge too. I guess it's supposed to look like crayon or some kind of airbrush. It works for the lines I guess, but it really doesn't for the word balloons. Maybe if you gave them outlines (Even light gray outlines would help) or if you can switch brushes on the fly

>>89587172
I'm always so happy when a comic that went on hiatus comes back
and like I said on your site, it looks like your art improved a tad too. Something about the anatomy seems nicer.

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I came up with this idea a couple months ago. What do u guys think? Would you read it unironicly?

>>89587062
that's a cute dog

>>89587172
Nice to see you return. I'm wondering though, why do you draw with aliased lines?

>>89587364
unironically is asking a lot for a comic like this
Lemme ask you somethin, Cochise. did you draw those sprite-a-pixels at the end? If so, yes.

>>89587238
Eh, I tried once before with black lines but it was even messier and the little bit of scratchiness to the word bubbles is so minor that I don't see it as a real problem.

>>89587441
yeah maybe
howbout making the shapes more regular instead then? that would probably alleviate it. They're already better-shaped than they have been lately

>>89587172
I'm digging the animated banner on your website, it's been a while since I visited

>>89586848
I want to see bird girls face

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I hope I don't come across for posting this twice, but how are these colors? I can tell theres something wrong but I can't put my finger on it

>>89587422
Unfortunately the pixels are not mine. This is a rough sketch i drew in like 10 minutes with a mouse on paint. so the art will get better if i decide to make this a thing

>>89587595
I think the odd thing about your colors is how some panels are very saturated while others are very dull and washed out. Individually all of these panels are pretty solid, but the stark color differences between them makes them look strange when right next to each other.

>>89587595
You didn't ask, last time, you just said you were trying to get 'em right.
I think there are some subtly 'off' choices here. Bowie's pink skin, brown girl's skin saturation, whoever decided it was a good idea to splatter that poor toad in tomato juice....

>>89587550
Maybe some day.

At least you get to see the bottom half.

>>89587263
yeah I've been practicing anatomy while I've been gone, still got a long way but its nice to hear its getting somewhere

>>89587407
Oh its just I really like the aliased line appearance I'm fond of pixel art and all that jazz so it reminds me of that, just mainly a personal preference .

>>89587503
thanks! I'm wanting to integrate some animation into the actual story at some point possibly for a certain training montage scene I had in mind, but I don't know if animated scenes ever go over well in webcomics.

I will literally never learn to draw well, so the answer is nonexistent.

The truth is, not everyone makes it.

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>>89588512
>tfw spent hundreds on a drawing tablet and still draw like shit

>>89588060
Hey dewd if we have a legitimate vote that you leave,
Will you except the outcome?

>>89588629
I will except it but I won't accept it.

>>89588464
i like aliased art too. Though it doesn't come off much like pixel-art (not at this size), more like prequel, homestuck, etc. there's a simple elegance to that look.
Speaking of those,
>I don't know if animated scenes ever go over well in webcomics.
They do! You just want to make sure they actually add something that adding another panel or two wouldn't (for example, it's annoying sitting and waiting for animation to finish up while you read multiple text balloons)

>>89588751
>having your spelling burned by dewd
shit that's a punch in the balls.

>>89589104
yeah i mean i can't personally draw pixel art well but yeah prequels kind of art style is more similar to what I try and do.

Oh I meant more like a short animation rather than a page for one update or something like that, just depends on whether I can physically do it. But animated panels could be good to use some point too.

>>89589516
animations-instead-of-pages run a risk of not going over well, yeah. I think your trepidations are valid there. But give it a shot anyway. I can tell you right now if I felt any confidence about making them, I would have made a dozen animations just for fun and shitgiggles.

>>89589568
thanks man, I'll definitely try it at some point and if it doesn't go over well I just know not to do it the next time

>>89589871
especially if Trash is involved. I would love to see an animation starring Trash

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Just a few little tweaks then I should be fine for uploading. Getting tired and want to hit the gym in the morning before work.

>>89590087
god damn, that lighting.

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I've been reading a lot of Archie lately.

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Page I just finished.
Shit is fucked.

>>89590238
You have a very ugly art style

>>89590238
not even dick sucking here
this is a major style improvement. faces have more shape and everything's more appealing. if you were on the fence about whether to roll with it, motherfucking roll with it
I also appreciate the lines on angel's hair actually following the shapes of her hair.

>>89590264
Wow, I dig your coloring. Really help enhance the experience.

>>89590371
Well alright, I'll do that.

I always wanted West Tree to have more of a retro look anyhow.

>>89590238
Have you started the comic yet? I'd say some designs could use tweaks but I've always thought the best way to figure that shit out is to just start the comic (if you haven't already).

>>89590519
I have completed over five hundered and fifty pages of this comic anon...

>>89590519
>>89590605
and just in case you were wondering what it looked like before: think Tartakovsky ran a train on Butch Hartman while John K watched

>>89590646
Sexy.

>>89590238
kill yourself

>>89590238
Thought you hated coming here.

>>89590264
This is a seriously cozy color palette you've got going on, I like the lady's design too. The action's a bit unclear though, is there a wall of water coming at them? A high tide? Why are they falling?

>>89590962
yeah I'm a little confused too
I guess it would help if I read page 38 so I knew what they were looking at
>>89590962
have you ever posted here before, guy? I don't think I remember you

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>>89591014
>>89590962
This is the prior page. Don't want to give everything away but something's created such an enormous displacement of water that the island their on is being sucked into a whirlpool.

>>89591158
Oh, you were that guy?

You have a link to your other pages? I wanna check it out.

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>>89591158
What I have from the next page so far
(BTW realistic physics don't apply here, the island they're on is floating)

>>89591201
Haven't uploaded it online yet, still deciding how I want to do it.

>>89591014
I'I'm not new, I made the thread. I've been posting pretty often for the past few weeks, but I usually didn't post with a name. I'm using a name now because I don't want to deal with the anonymous confusion in last thread.

>>89591158
Alright, now it's making more sense to me. Again, lovely colors, the way you drew that wave just looks spectacular.

>>89591201
>Oh, you were that guy?
ditto, but this explains a lot. water in this comic does WEIRD things. I actually feel bad for getting on your case about it page after page.

>>89591237
I was worried you'd get confused by that, that's why I quoted another post midway through that post.
...
and now that I look at it, no I didn't. I MEANT to link to >>89590264 for that second quote
YOU I know. I like your comic.

I just remembered that one comic about a pink-haired girl fighting sharkmen but completely forgot the name.
Anyone remembers it?

>>89588618
>downloaded all the meme books to learn how to draw and beyond
>bought books about narrative and semiotics
>bought books about sequential art and storyboards
>2 years ago
>eco's apocalipticos e integrados gathering dust literally at hand's reach
I sometimes legit think I should quit everything comics, get a real job, and dedicate my free time to gunpla.

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>>89585508

>>89591158
>>89591202
>>89590264
Imma post one more thing then bail, this is a bit prior to the whirlpool/splash
Also, good places to dump your webcomics? Wanted a backlog to fall on in order to keep up a decent schedule, but I'm about ready to start uploading stuff.

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>>89591445
I'm bad at images

>>89588512
>I will literally never learn to draw well, so the answer is nonexistent.
Fuck you faggot. Even the most retarded faggots can learn to draw. Your only excuse is being a lazy faggot.

>>89591421

Dude this is so true.

>>89591473
I'll pay you to color my pages haha.... if I had the money......

>>89591309
Lol, whoops, I thought that might've been the case but wasn't sure.

>>89591445
Tapastic, Webtoons, and Smackjeeves are all decent sites to put your comic on. They all have their own pros/cons but I'd recommend just dumping your comic everywhere just to get a feel for which site you like best.

>>89591415
Chaos in the Tropics. HYW's personal Thundercats/Korra, in the sense of being incredibly high quality and abnormally good at the too-neglected action genre, but getting unreasonably shit on anyway

>>89591718
>Korra
oh no
I'll still give it a try now that I'm giving up on life.

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>>89585508
What to get started on making a webcomic.

Thinking about hosting on Wordpress. Any advice

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>when u draw a cute char and keep having to fap
how do good artists do this

>>89591683
Thanks! Gonna aim for having it up this month.
>>89591659
Give me your lunchmoney, nerd.

>>89591857
Having two hands helps...

>>89591784
i mean, korra-prior-to-the-last-minute-of-the-last-episode
when everyone was bitching about every little thing the show did, as if it could do no right

>>89591861
If I may just provide a dissenting opinion: tapastic and webtoons are so crummy and locked-down. Sites like smackjeeves, drunkduck, comicgenesis, comicfury, these at least give you freedom. At least take them under consideration before picking up the golden tanuki leaf and easymoding website setup. Think of the stars on your save file!

>>89591825
>Wordpress
I hear good things. That and Amazon seem to be the most highly-reccommended
>Any advice
stop posting feels good man frog. I know it's fun, but we have a lot of shitposters in here (see the post immediately below yours) and it's gonna be hard to keep your head above water

>>89591918
>feels good man frog
kill yourself coldfusion

So there was a little discussion last thread, I just wanted to ask, those of you who have actually kept up on Kiwi Day N, is the current 'let's split up, gang' thing really hurting pacing badly and/or making it hard to follow the three storylines?
I know it definitely would for anyone trying to jump on at this point (not a good idea in general), but I wanted to know how more longterm readers are handling it.
in b4 aren't any hahaha i know
and if it is a problem, is it more the juggling or is it the stupidly long time in between updates lately?
There's nowt I can do about it at this point and it's almost over, but this would be the time to get feedback on the experiment. I've never had them split up quite this long before, not since they went inside that book.

>>89592311
this anon brings up a good point.

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>>89592129
>those of you who have actually kept up on Kiwi Day N

>>89591877
idunno
I was doubtful about the first season from the start and the rest was a shitfest. To me, Korra never dropped the ball because they never tried picking it up from the start.

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I posted the test cover page a week or two ago for my comic's first actual chapter, and you guys mentioned that it was just a bunch of people standing around doing nothing

Now that I'm ready to upload the first update, I wanted to finally finalize this cover page. Are there any other noticeable problems with this cover?

>>89592129
I don't really follow your comic, not really interested in reading the 900+ pages, but I have to ask, does it have a plot? Is it going anywhere?

If you have a story in mind you want to tell, then you know what characters to follow and what characters to forget. If you are just making this shit for fun, just playing with different characters in different scenarios for your pleasure, just keep doing what you want to do.

>>89592129
Your comic is hard to get into, I actually tried once. From what I can tell from that experience and the pages you post here, there's no real plot, just random stuff happening randomly - whatever you feel like drawing at the time.

How about starting something new, this time with a clear plan for the beginning and the end of the story at the very least? I honestly don't think Kiwi Day N is salvageable at this point if you care about having any readers.

>>89587688
Yes, that makes sense, these are panels that have nothing to do with each other and exist just so I can try out different things

>>89587802
is that a bad thing? or does it add a certain.. je ne sais quoi?

>>89591825
Wordpress is a popular choice and has plenty of Themes suited for webcomics, such as Comic Easel (which is what I use).

>>89591825
Wordpress with a webcomic-based plugin is a decent choice.
Comic Easel is popular, but there is also one called Webcomic.

>>89591718
>high quality
kekkkkkk

>>89592610
It's super dark and that title is muddled in with your background. Change everything,srsly

>>89592129
I don't read your comic but I have respect for you for trying hard. You keep going despite everyone shitting on your face. You allow yourself to make mistakes, unlike most people.

I'll be honest: I have zero interest in reading your comic, but I like to see your posts. I even check some pages when you post them, even though the genre isn't my thing and the writing is all over the place. Sorry. That's how I see it. I don't see a central plot or hook that I should care about.

A lot of people have told you to work on your art. I agree, but on the other hand I feel like you could be an ok webcomic artist even with your current level of illustration skills.
You should study storytelling a little more, polish the basics, and most of all: focus. Simplistic art can work too if you don't try too hard.
I think you could benefit from studying Pendelton Ward's way of combining his artstyle with his unique writing voice. They are both simple yet effective. And no, I don't mean imitating him, just used him as an example of focusing the tone, technique and the thematic goals of the story into one cohesive package.
If you want to make a fun, silly story for an example, make your artstyle fun and silly as well. I mean something along those lines, if you get my point. You already have some grasp of that but right now I can't tell what kind of story I'm looking at. Is it supposed to be funny, silly, chidlike, serious, sexy, escapist fantasy, sad, dramatic, happy -- what? It doesn't help that many of the character designs remind me of known characters from other comics, such as dragon ball and adventure time. It is a turnoff to see stealing made obvious, always. Hide your influences, but by all means have them.

Sorry for shitting on your face as well.
I'm glad you just keep going.

I believe you can improve, because you work hard, and that's what matters.

You do you, ColdFusion. You do you.

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>>89590087
White guy using light magic to fight some black guy. Is this subtle racism?
White power, my brother!

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>>89597400
Not so subtle

>>89597307
>I have respect for you for trying hard
You're a fucking idiot. ColdFusion DOESN'T try, that's why we shit on him. He's at the exact same level he was 10 years ago with absolutely zero desire to improve. He's a dumb fucking belligerent retard who drags the thread down with his bullshit, his Dewd cocksucking, and his shitty comic. Kill yourself.

>you work hard
He doesn't. You're a fool if you believe this.

>>89586848
So lazy/incompetent that you write "Dan Slott" and "Bendis" on the caricatures.
>You can't even be assed to format it well.
>While talking mad shit about people who draw better, put in more effort, and have more fans as a desperate cry for attention.

I'm done. Responding again is just fulfilling your needs. I have enough contempt that I refuse to ever acknowledge you again.

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>>89585508
Things are going okay. I got a lot faster, and then figured out how to get things waaay cleaner, which of course, slowed me right the fuck down.
Still working on the reboot. i have about 30 pages total now, but there are gaps to fill and I want a large buffer going in this time.

>>89597990
You'll be replying to him again in no time. The Dewd is like a drug. You've gotta have your fix.

>>89590087
Personal opinion, but a closed-mouth grimace conveys the emotion you're going for better than a neutral open-mouth in the last panel.

Also his pupils could use highlights, it looks weird for them to be completely black when he's bathed in glow.

>>89598105
nah

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Not a webcomic but here's a comic for a children's novel

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>>89598499
When you're going for visual comedy (which is part of pretty much any joke in comics, even if it's conveyed through dialogue), the key elements to focus on are tone, [inter]action, contrast and preciseness of detail. They don't all have to be used at once, but they're all great fundamentals to keep in mind.

I'd focus on Precision and Contrast in your case, since you're only working with two panels. Think harder about what you're trying to accomplish in each panel and how to enhance the absurdity in a natural way. Consider your composition and level of focus and how that affects what you draw and why. Should a group shot introducing characters be just as zoomed up as a shot of a character thinking about something by themselves? Should both panels be viewed from the same angle? What helps sell your idea, instead of just reaching adequacy?

>>89597804
I understand that he hasn't improved enough in ovet 10 years. But you don't. It's you who is stopping him from improving. What he needs is support and advice just like the rest of us. Learn to give constructive criticism instead of bullying people into giving up if they fail to impress you with their free comic.

>>89599060
Not that anon, but he's demonstrated before that he's perfectly capable of drawing better than he does for his comic but chooses to not do so because A) it would involve effort and B) it would be an acknowledgement that his former work was garbage.

He can draw fully realized, non-chibi figures. He can totally fucking do it. And when given positive reinforcement by several posters and urged to either adopt that style or at least apply SOME of the benefits of what he clearly knows how to do to his existing art, he just rambled about how he wants to look like a sprite comic and refused to actually apply himself.

Constructive Criticism does NOTHING for him because he refuses to actually acknowledge it. He was given constructive coloring advice just last thread and twisted it to mean something completely different and then told the anon that he "already knew" those things they didn't even advise him on. There is no right way to help this guy, because he doesn't actually desire improvement.

>>89599060
>It's you who is stopping him from improving
Wow, who knew I was shitting on coldfusion from 2003-2015 before I ever entered these threads or even knew he existed?

>>89599247
It's the Mandella Effect, anon.

You went back in time and bullied him, creating this alternate timeline where he sucks and Garfeld is now "Garfield." The other anon is sensitive to temporal ripples and discovered that you are responsible.

>>89596899
It's supposed to be super dark, but I do feel like the many large black spots could be filled with something, so I'll work on that

Question for y'all.

What kind of villain do you prefer?
The strong, take charge kind or the subtle, manipulative kind?

Facing a bit of a dilemma.

I have all these ideas for stories, but almost none of them are exclusive to each other in terms of genre. So I keep flip-flopping on whether all these stories should take place on one single world, or if I should make up multiple settings.

If you'll indulge a bit of background, I have always despised the idea of the "planet of hats", as it's pretty fucking lazy to act as if planets were just towns for the protagonists to visit. Planets are big and have a lot of shit on them(just look at our own in real life for proof). So I keep thinking, why not have all my stories take place on the same planet? But then I think some of it might seem out of place with other things. Again, the issue is more aesthetic than genre, and I just can't make up my damn mind here.

Anyone else have this kind of problem?

>>89600280
How far apart Genre wise are the stories?
Same goes for tech levels.

>>89600030
>not having both kinds be rivals to each other while still being antatonists

>>89600280
Things don't have to go planet hopping unless you want them to.

Pretty much every setting in fiction is based on Earth, and anything too far out can be explained via magic/science/conspiracy.

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Heres a chunk update for my comic. God this takes forever.

>>89600442
Really liking the backgrounds soo far.

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>>89600442

>>89600323
It's all on the lower end of sci-fi. Like Stargate tech levels, mode or less, with most of the common devices being gritty and functional, with the crazy shit limited to ancient mysterious artifacts and such.

>>89600352
Well, I did want to try multiple species, but I guess they could just be on the same planet together. Makes the mechs a bit difficult since they have to be able to accompany different creatures, but I could probably figure something out.

>>89593753
>>89593884
Hmm, this is some good insight. I didn't realize people really cared about overarching stories rather than just a series of arcs (just to clarify, this post was asking about the latest arc, coming after the Hell arc), but I have noticed people lately making a lot of threads like "what is the beginning-to-end plot of Adventure Time?" so that is an expectation even in random goofy fantasy, I guess. when AT came out, my immediate thought was that this was a lot like my shit, just hanging around, doing whatever, waiting for important stories to happen or old characters to reappear, with no plan.
>>89597307
So.. interesting that you bring AT up specifically, maybe I SHOULD study what Pen's doing right that I haven't figured out yet.
>I can't tell what kind of story I'm looking at
Pretty much everything you said except serious, sad, and dramatic.
The idea IS for it to remind you of dragon ball, earthbound, etc, so you get the feel of a long, drawn-out adventure with lots of humor but also sexy times (like Toriyama or shit like Doraemon used to do before being neutered) and occasional mindfucks (but not nearly as deep as Itoi, I can't pull that off yet). The characters started out as really obvious and acknowledged ripoffs back in '02, with shit like Fighter/DBZ guy, Ness guy, Link guy, etc, but at this point they shouldn't give you that impression much anymore. Can I ask which current ones are doing that? Vague descriptions are fine.
also you're not shitting on me at all, this is really useful feedback. I'm often embarrassed to call direct attention to myself, but this time it really worked out. Thanks!

>>89599146
Oh sorry if you misunderstood, what I meant was that SINCE I made that comic, I learned some useful things in these threads about that, and was already trying to utilize that in pages I've made since. Not that I already knew it when I made that one, obviously.
Like it was a page from 3 months ago, and I'd gotten that tip already a few weeks ago.

>>89600280
I can tell you what has worked well in the past: a series of stories that it turns out take place in the same setting
What doesn't work as well is one comic that skips around to a bunch of unrelated stories that just happen to share a setting. Y'dig? It's easier for people to digest a story from beginning to end, then read the next one and go "oh another in this same setting, cool." Asimov did stuff like that.

>>89599146
also I am very slowly, gradually de-chibifying I'm noticing. Early on I just said 'fuckit, proportions don't have to be consistent as long as they're consistent within a panel, they can just change to whatever looks good and funny at a time', but it's way more locked-down now, more consistent, and over time yeah they're becoming more heads-tall, with more detail and less simplification. but I value consistency in a long-term project like this, so I would never just up and change it and suddenly look like every other poorly-drawn weeb comic. the simplified designs make it faster and let me practice a lot more new poses without becoming overwhelmed. I'm really enjoying the construction process lately, for the first time in my life it's not an annoyance but actually fun for constructing new poses out of spheres and tubes.

>>89601440
I must admit that thought did cross my mind at times. Some of the big names have been highly successful by just sticking to a single setting for most if not all their careers. Asimov, Tolkein, Rowling, Pratchett... But then I immediately feel guilty for such an arrogant thought, like I'm anywhere near the same league.

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>>89601078

>arms not blue

>>89601571
Even God asks you to imitate him. Not because you can, but because it's good for you to try.
Wouldn't it be even more arrogant to say "I'm going to succeed doing something DIFFERENT from what all those successful guys did"? Only we call that kind of arrogance 'ambition'

>>89601667
Point taken. But then again, I keep having trouble trying to come up with other settings anyway. They always end up being kinda gimmicky and boring, when they'd work a lot better as a country to give the world I have more variety.

So maybe it's more like some people only have one good setting in them to begin with.

>>89601814
And of course nothing is stopping you from doing a "Sandland" later if you're sick of your "place dragon ball and dr. slump take place in"

>>89601828
True, plus my fake planet is fairly broad, and I have no plans to do any straight fantasy stories, so again, genre isn't an issue.

Seriously, I can't make up a decent magic system for crap, so fuck it.

>>89602091
iunno man, for me magic is about style, not systemry. the depiction should be what teaches you how it works. Like whatever they do before casting, that indicates they must need to.

>>89602091
Check out /tg/ they have world building and sometimes magic discussion threads it's all very inspiring

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Sketch https://youtu.be/dgsf84heH4g

Sorry if this question seems dumb as fuck, but when people say you just need to pick up the pencil and start, what do they mean start on? I get a blank page and I'm just lost on where to begin again. I hate that I have this problem now, I had no problems just drawing from imagination, or something in real life that I just wanted to sketch really quick. Now I just read the w/ic/i and pdfs a lot and leave it at that.

>>89602502
I don't think that advice is meant to be taken 100% literally. You know what I did? I sat and brainstormed some fun characters. Then from there I imagined what kind of things they would get up to, how it would go, how they would interact, and it all blossomed from there.
what's your comic gonna be about? How much do you have so far?

You're all never gonna make it. Just give up now.

>>89602583
I've got a bunch of different ones, from different periods in my life. I usually stop at settings, rules, and character ideas but can't think of much in the ways of plots. I'd be a shitty writer since I'm pretty sure I'd just infodump and place "lore" everywhere instead of making something happen at that moment.

It's all still in my head and I still tweak them around, but it seems like some time right after high school, I just stopped drawing and I'm not exactly sure why. It's been about 3 years since I've drawn consistently. I just do it from time to time while trying to apply what I'm studying, but give up in frustration.

>>89602723

Are these the words of a person who didn't make it?

>>89602760
well you're busy working, right? work killed my creativity for sure.
Find a little something something you can do in the time you have that's just for you. maybe some fanart you've been sitting on with some clever idea you came up with. No pressure. Once you're back in the groove of drawing, physically, it'll be less of this thing looming over you

>>89601353
>I'm often embarrassed to call direct attention to myself

No you're not. You post with a name. You post longwinded posts every time often multiple posts in a row. You are not ashamed. You are pretending to be humble.

Take some time off to do actual hard work and improve if you want to come to a thread where people are trying to get better. Prove it through action.

The only reason you would suck for so long is you're literally retarded or you are not trying at all.

>>89603125
>You post with a name.
Only like once per thread when I'm posting my comic.
What I was saying is I very rarely make posts like >>89592129 Sorry if that was confusing and you thought I meant something else

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>>89599060
>It's you who is stopping him from improving
This is some coldfusion tier mental gymnastics.

>it's everyone's fault but his! you didn't coddle him enough!
Christ if you aren't the retard himself then this just goes to show how cancerous his presence actually is.

>>89603958
if it helps, I don't think you're stopping me from improving

but you are shitting up the threads and generally making me feel like I shouldn't ask for help when I need it

>>89604052
didn't read, don't give a shit. stop replying to me

>>89599040
I will take your words into consideration next time I do a comic

bump for ants

>>89602770
They're the words of a person who gave up before even trying to make it; a person who has given up on life.

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New Wilfreda the Wanna-Be Witch strip is up. Starting up a new story arc.

Read more at http://wilfredacomic.tumblr.com/

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>writing a webcomic for an artist
>the artist enrolls in a creative writing class

>>89607896
this will be interesting, it seems like valentine's day traditions vary a lot by era and location. In my day it was extremely egalitarian, everyone got a card from everyone else, exactly the right number (maybe one-fifth) of the class included candy, and cards were storebought, the idea being that they expressed your taste in cartoons or whatnot.
if a girl had a crush on you, she didn't wait for valentine's day

>>89608316
enroll in an art class

Do you consider it a major issue if a comic is moving too fast? I know some webcomics meander like motherfuckers, with several entire pages with nothing happening (like say, the Bomango reboot), which drives me insane, so I've been making it my goal to have each page (e.g. each update) have something worth reading - something that exposits on the setting, characterizes a character, or drives the plot. But how much is too much?

What's the difference between an issue and a volume?

>>89609386
usually an issue is like a 22-ish page comic, while a volume is like a whole chapter, like 6-12 of those.

>>89609412
Thanks m8. Currently doing logistics for comic making, story arcs, how many of this and how many of that, etc etc.

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So I'm trying to build my webpage with wordpress.org
I got the hosting and it's all set up. I'm not sure which plugin is better to use, Comic Easle or Webcomic

The catch is, I want to be able to display my pages side by side in a two page format. Kind of like a flipbook app or a page viewer. Is this possible with either plug in?

For example, check out Carciphona and how she has he pages displayed side by side
>http://carciphona.com/view.php#volume=6&chapter=15&page=19

I've been searching around youtube and forums, but can't seem to find any useful info to what I'm shooting for.

Any thoughts?

>>89601601
Christine Weston Chandler doesn't agree with you.

>>89609974
There are people who know how to do that, one of them used to post in here... but it's a bad idea unless every two pages are meant to be read together. I believe that person ended up changing it to a normal format. I'll try to remember who it was, and see if I can get ahold of them

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>>89610142
>Christine

>>89610475
Oh that would be great! Thanks!

Yeah the webcomic I'm drawing now- the format I'm developing it under is that it read like a book, so every two pages are specifically paired and suspense reveals are on page turns.

It's early enough that this doesnt have to be a feature, but I like how the early pages have been reading with this feature

>>89610550
Ah, well that would work fine then.
If anyone else remembers who it was, please help out.

>>89609301
As long as you don't feel like you're rushing yourself, it's fine. A good rule of thumb is that every panel should have a purpose, even if that purpose is to be purposeless.

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https://tapastic.com/episode/588285

I began publication of the comic i mentioned here >>89585924

I'm gonna be uploading a page per day for now

>>89610494
Respect her right to choose you shitlord.

>>89612649
I wish you had put a bit more time into your inks and character designs before starting. Maybe studied panel composition.

Oh well, maybe the next comic, right?

>>89612649
The way you've painted this, the shadows of your figures are picking up the skylight, which is not entirely incorrect, but you've painted them to such a degree that they appear as rimlighting. Basically, it's making them look like they're running over a pool or something.

My suggestion would be to take that blue you've painted, remove it from the shadow side, put it on the light side as rim light. paint their shadows with blue, but make it subtle, barely noticeable really.

For what it's worth, I'm digging this cover, it could use more clouds that are much more dense to make it more interesting

>>89613168
I knew there was something off about this lighting, but I didn't know how to phrase it. Good eye, guy.
>>89612649
the background looks really good at least. I'm looking forward to seeing more pages

>>89613168
Thanks for the criticism! I'm aware that the reflection from below is unrealistic, but i wanted to have the figures pop, and the blue creates a nice contrast to the orange of the bodies. It's an artistic license i'm willing to take for now, though i might update the cover in the future with some of this in mind.
Also agreed on the clouds suggestion.

>>89612984
I'll update the inking of the first couple of pages as they're a bit rough. I'm a bit tight on time so i don't have the margin to be working on a page for days.

>>89613439
it does make them pop
it actually reminds me of a slick, shiny logo

>>89613439
Like I said, maybe next time. I get how this works, you don't have time to overhaul it all this deep in.

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>tfw dream of fans excitedly discussing my content but am too retarded to create something good

buhmp

>>89615369
bhump

>>89613597
people like retarded stuff all the time.

Look at... All media.

>>89616980
the relatability of that post notwithstanding, that is feelsposter guy. he isn't real
he is, however, extremely persistent. It was impressive for a while, then it became sad.

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Part 1 of my valentines special this year!

there will be three parts, next is the boys and then the "Special" category.

Which West Tree girl would you date /hyw/?

>>89617201
Sora*
references*
thighs*
superiority*
BJs* no apostrophe.
i snickered at rocosho's entry, and also seeing her in a frilly dress
Uhh probably Sora. Poor thing didn't even get her name spelled right in this. Least she can get is picked for a date. though cmon, that annabeth. cmawwn

>>89617325
Writing Sora and Sarah's names together always confuses me. Also this was a last minute idea I had before bed, I didn't wanna forget.

>>89617064
how do you know he's not for real?

>>89617424
because it's this guy posting this shit for over a year now

>>89617485
has it really been a year already?

jfc

>>89617485
how is that any indication of whether or not he actually has a comic?

>>89618029
the feelsposting frequently involves not having a comic, not having started one yet, i mean it doesn't portray a consistent narrative..
but the important thing is if this person does have a comic then they also have a very sad shitposting hobby on the side, and I wouldn't want to read one written by someone with this crummy a sense of humor, would you?

>>89618109
>I wouldn't want to read one written by someone with this crummy a sense of humor, would you?
you really have it out for this guy, are the feels getting to you?

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Practicing poses with the nearly finished model for Dupe made completely out of an ARRAY of body parts I've been drawing over the past few days. Pretty happy with the results so far.

>>89618109
The feelposts are his webcomic. That's the joke.

>>89609974
Webcomic plug-in user here.
I can't comment on Comic Easel, as I've never used it, but the main reason I use Webcomic is that it makes it easy to run several different strips or sub-sections under one site.

If you have only one story, like most webcomics, then Easel would probably be fine, but if you plan to have something like, for example, Dumm Comics, then Webcomic might be better.

(You could probably do it under Easel, too, but I don't know how or what the management would be like.)

(Also, I can't advise on the side-by-side layout thing.)

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"scribbling next few pages"

>>89617064
Just because someone shitposts doesn't make them not real.

>>89618109
>hobby shaming
In certain cultures the only way one can express oneself is to feelpost. You'd better respect feelposter's unique culture and interests. You're awfully problematic, shitlord.

>>89585873
Bumping for some opinions and votes on what will happen next

How long does it usually take to plan out your comic?

>>89624336
I brainstorm while doing my dayjob, create a story outline, then do scripts, revise, thumbnails, revise, layouts, and revise again.

Once I've got that all down I do a once over of each issue/chapter and continue revising. Then I edit the final layouts as I get to each page.

So more than a month.

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Alright, finished my Valentines day stuff!

Which West Tree boy would you date?

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>>89624495
And here's the last one.

Which West Tree special would you date?

I want to make a comic about space warriors, but I fear no one will take it seriously because they'll think I'm copying from Sailor Moon, or trying to do Sailor Moon "better." What do?

>>89624512
Dewd, buddy, I've been out to fuck Annabeth since day one man

>>89624336
For my comic, it's just coming up with jokes, so not that long actually. It's all about how the characters will interact.

>>89619468
going the paper doll route eh? I feel like i'm watching a high quality newgrounds flash.
>>89621009
I love this foxyfluff

>>89623590
I voted, dude. Aint much more to say til it gets really goin' again. I like the hair on blonde guy.

>>89624897
Do what you have in mind anyway. There are a bunch of "sailor moon" like webcomics running and no one is saying anything.

And if they say, WHO CARES?! Do what you want, pal!

>>89624495
As far as I know from talking to the ladies, girth matters more, so I think two sixes DO equal a twelve.
also
hygiene*
easily*
genitalia*
neither*

>>89625100
wait, there are? Can I have a link to one?
yeah I agree with this advice. go for it.

>>89587364
Why is Azathoth in this

>>89624980
Good luck.
>>89625148
Thanks my dewd.

>>89624406

Oh man...

I've been planning mine for years now...

Though, I think I understand why. I usually plan my comic in periodical bursts, between those times I just let the ideas simmer while I do other things, like research and just normal life. Probably because I was unsatisfied with the concepts I had and my lack of experience. Once I get back to actively planning, I try to improve upon it by applying any knowledge or experience I gained by then.

I think I'm at to that point were I have a concept I am happy with and I feel confident in my knowledge to tackle the subject I want to work with. So hopefully now I can continuously work to put together some documents of my comic.

>>89625095
Thanks! I'll always tell about it here when i update (probably wednesday/tuesday)

>>89625148
http://www.sleeplessdomain.com/
http://www.shatteredstarlight.com/
These two are pretty much the "magical girl/sailor moon" theme. One of them even goes with stars names... I know there are more, but these are the only ones i follow

>>89621009
>>89621050
This looks interesting. Link?

>>89625350
wow one of those really does not appeal, kinda missed the point of mahou shoujo being CUTE but..
wow, mary cagle does one of these? how am I not aware of that?

>>89624336
I used to just make it up on the fly, then it would just be me writing a whole chapter ahead, but now I'm outlining the whole next part of West Tree. Well, the outline at least.

>>89624336
i planned out the whole plot months before I started but I update and change it when i take days off to think about it and sketch out future scenes

>>89624336
I have some notepad stuff with several story categories, including
>a plot twist i'd like to have
>a reaction to an event that would be funny
>a character development as a result of an action
as well as some general descriptions of how a plot would go ("they come across a (thing), struggle with (aspect of it that relates to how they would normally do things), eventually such and such happens") that can be just a few sentences, or it can get pretty lengthy sometimes. Then I go through my files for little ideas and funny dialogues and think of ways those could fit in ("oh that's perfect for a (thing), because it would ask them (question that results in witty comeback)") and that fleshes it out. Also stuff like if I've always wanted to draw a particular weird landscape, I'll ask if that would be a good setting.. and see if I can work it into the plot (one's coming up, I'm fascinated by cenotes. you'll see how it works in)
The current plotline, I wanted to get as much in as possible before I wrap up the series, and for once, get the pacing somewhat right, so I even made a separate flowchart bulletpoint document to try to itemize all the events
But for the most part, and in the old days this is almost all I did, I just run through the event in my head and think of what they'd do and say, and they just do it.

>>89626108
>I even made a separate flowchart bulletpoint document to try to itemize all the events
That seems a bit extreme.

>>89626353
Normally would be, this is the first time I've needed to. I grappled really hard with the whole thing with Gyomudo, what his backstory was involving the catgirl and the Queen, how his curse was keeping him in Hell, what it had to do with the Queen's imprisonment, why he was making a sacrifice, how they would convince him it wasn't worth it, what his logic would be in resisting but then giving in, how the prison worked.. and before that, what his reputation was, what damage he was doing to the place, what Ryou has to do with it.. it all made sense the first time I thought of it (while asleep) but when I finally got to the plot it was a big giant mess and I had to untangle it like christmas lights.

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This week expectedly turned to shit so I didn't get a chance to do that much art, but I did figure out my third idea for my IG short series.

>>89624336
I'm never not planning a comic or three. So... "forever."

A lot of ideas are subject to change on the fly as I'm drawing them. Like if I realize something doesn't quite work or is beyond my skill level then I may have to rethink the whole thing.

Part of my problem is I get stuck in a permanent development cycle and never actually get to the art part.

>>89627555
haha, that's how we did portable phones in the 80s!

>>89625405
Not him, but he's one of the vary few comics I follow here.
http://www.kemonoart.com

Does anyone else write by challenging themselves? Example, I challenged myself to make a character who is literally unable to abuse his powers.

>>89629253
how'd you manage that?

>>89627555
Nice art, I want to take a moment to commend some of the better artists here.

You show great paneling and consistent construction. Proportions and perspective are excellent. The beetlejuice comic was well done, last panel had great composition.

Pipsqk is another one of the better artists here. Very diligent and eager to learn, his construction, composition, and perspective are also great. It'll be interesting to see how far he goes, he's clearly quite young still.

There's this one person who's drawing this little masked dude going through a forest, great perspective and clean style.

Carrion girls creator has an amazing painterly style that I'm afraid is pretty underrated because its not a style familiar to comic readers. The environment and details are gorgeous though.

The something reality comic, with the glasses girl with the big nose and the husky guy and their creation. Fun style that compliments the writing and really brings the characters to life, consistent art, whole thing is very clean and easy to read.

There may be one or two that I'm forgetting, I apologize this is off the top of my head. Keep it up guys, you guys make these threads actually worthwhile and not a cesspool of retard scribbles.

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After sitting down and practicing more stuff for a couple of weeks now, I can finally post this little teaser update for the next chapter.
I can finally work directly on the comic again to get this garbage completed.

http://vidyadeparted.tumblr.com/post/156751086063/vidya-departed-chapter-1-part-1-the-special-day

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>>89585508
This is my most recent update

archive here: so that I'm not spamming image limit
http://kingdwarfcomics.tumblr.com/

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how well does the last panel read?

>>89632630
Back to making dota comics, eh?
Good

Also if you are talking about the "KTS"s, then I feel like they are a little too hidden from far away.
Everything else is fine though.

>>89625078
Yeah, unfortunately since this still is a review series and I want to update it regularly I can't really afford to spend several months on each episode doing loads of frame by frames. I feel like this route still looks good visually since I spent so much time on the resources but is far more efficient for what I'm doing. The technique was inspired by "ZTV News" which has a pretty similar technical approach and i feel like looks pretty good.

>>89630552
I got inspiration from Thor, basically the guy gets his powers from "the spirits" and as long as they deem him worthy, they'll grant him strength and wisdom. If he intends to use his powers for ill, they're immediately revoked until he gets on the right path again

>>89632071
>filename
my god..

>>89632785
ZTV is exactly what came to mind! If that was your inspiration then you got it
>>89633637
ooh, gotta love inteligent magic sources. Nice.

>>89620797
Oh that's good to know.
I'll only be doing one story though. What are the main differences between easel and Webcomic?

>>89632630
Easy to read, not crazy about the amount of dot-tones you have though

>>89632630
it looks like devil guy is just stabbing the shit out of porcupine guy and that is inexplicably making his quills shoot out in a hemisphere facing his right

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>>89585508

>>89635082
This is so completely true
Girl's cute, but this is some really loose art, friend. You workin' on tightening it up? I'm sure you are.

>>89635127
oh ok, ill work on it more next time. its one page a day

>>89635220
is that something you're imposing on yourself or is it an activity in some group?

>>89635357
no, just because. I need practice

>>89636100
I see, and you're practicing speed? I would submit that you have mastered speed, and now it's time to practice things like feature proportion

>>89636177
okay, gotcha anon. I'll definitely keep it in mind

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>tfw 3 years since starting your comic and updating 3 days a week you only get 3 views on update days
>2 are you
>1 is your mom

>>89632749
on the side, only when ideas come to me though. haven't been playing much lately so it's rare

>>89634615
i will experiment with it some more

>>89634974
that is a solid description of what's happening

>>89636742
Share it then...

>>89627969
Right?!

>>89631077
Thanks man.

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>tfw your mom asks you how your comic is doing and you reply with "it's getting better" when in reality your average views are declining with each update but the fact that your mother cares inspires a surge of motivation to turn things around so you ask her how she likes it so far and she tells you that she hasn't been keeping up then changes the topic right away, completely dashing the previous motivation since you realize her interest was for politeness's sake and the loneliness of being the only person who believes in your work instills a nihilism in you that dulls your enjoyment of making comics and leaves you constantly procrastinating and making excuses

>>89636742

>Makes Art
>Doesn't do it for the sake of making art.

I think I found your problem.

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Finished first page.

What do you guys think?

Quality wise, I don't immediately love it, but I don't hate it either.

>>89640058
i like it. I feel like the original sketch felt a bit more loose and playful, which kind of suited the IG style and played nicely off of the subversive ending. for example, while you got the nose and moustache perfect, it's hard to think of quimby as quimby without his close-set eyes and protruding forehead (indicating receding hairline). at least to me. it's what made him so distinct.

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Alright, got a bit of a dump today! Felt extra inspired today, lots of good songs were on! Here's the first one.

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>>89641469
Green Eyes Annabeth is now here!

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>>89641489
And lastly the remake page for today.

Origionaly I was gonna say that Wristia was a goddess, but I decided that it would be more fitting to say she's a dimensional entity to bring things full circle after these pages today.

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>>89641469
>>89641489
>>89641539

>>89641469
wait, where were we last time? i don't remember mouth biting.. and I would, because that is a thing .. a thing for me. and also that'd be a really creative use of the old spy cliche of a poison tooth
posess*
moreso* one word
posessed*
>>89641489
criminy, anna has more eye colors than lupin has jackets.
>it came with glasses
why did that make me laugh
without*
thee*
>>89641539
those are some skintight watches and some horrifying anatomy on that notgoddess, but at least more good shenAnnagans, which is always welcome

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>>89641667
Here's the last page that we last left off on.

>>89641764
oh okay, missed that one somehow
>man I wore this long-snouted hat SPECIFICALLY to avoid kissing anyone!

>>89640399
Well. All sketches lose something when you go to ink. If there's a way to avoid it I've yet to discover it.

I know what you mean about the hairline. That was more of a design oversight. Though if you look up pictures depending on the angle you can't tell.

>>89642754
>All sketches lose something when you go to ink
true that. I'm convinced most of it's in our heads, and we just THINK sketches are livelier, even if sometimes it really is the case.
the important thing here is the gag is fantastic.

>>89642876
It has something to do with the expressiveness of the lines. Even if you 100% copy every line (which you can't) you still lose out on things like the original texture and weight. It's slight but it's there. The best you can do is have a very expressive ink style that matches with your sketching so even if things are lost, some things are gained.

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>tfw you might have the comic script to define your generation but you're such a procrastinating, lazy fuck that it might only be read the next generation

>>89643425
what is it about?

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>>89600442
>>89601078

This guy here, I'm trying to get a little loose with expressions and movement, what do you think? Please excuse the roughness, I haven't inked a lot of it and I have to scan everything, I'm a butterfingers with my tablet. More to come if anyone is interested.

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>>89644027

reworked first page, much better flow

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Made a short comic traditionally, I was given a strict deadline so I wasn't able to put as much time into as I wanted to.

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>>89646770

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>>89646795

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>>89643425
>have character with prosthetics
>most issues might be outdated by the time i start
JUST

>>89646820

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>>89646884
Sorry, image didn't post

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>>89646902

>>89640058
The last panel is the best.

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>>89643246
Personally, I feel totally the opposite.
Everything I do looks ever so much shittier before inking.

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My wrists almost healed up and I've been drawing the next page again today (and I probably will in the evening).
Meanwhile I was thinking about making an art style shift once I wrap this story up, assuming I stay consistent with the current one until then. That's because some characters are clearly much more cartoony that others and I don't want too much dissonance.

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>>89647431
Elf face and some supporting cast, most of which hasn't appeared yet.
The guy in the turban in particular made me lean towards cartooning everyone.

>>89646770
Looks pretty nice. As with any story only 5 pages long, it does feel like the pacing is off.
Is this gonna be continued or is this a one off thing?

>>89647431
I like this a lot.

>>89631898
You will be better off doing flat/cel shading instead of this deviant tier "realistic" shading on cartoon proportions

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>>89644149

R8 my next chapter's antoagonist

>>89649574
I love everything from his upper half but that... Shadow? On his lower half looks really strange

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>>89649774

I'm trying to get into color, so I've spaced things out to do digitally, but it's going to be a high contrast shot with the front half lit by a campfire. Since I do most of my stiff by hand in ink, I give myself material to photoshop with.

here's an updated working page. The comic is www.napapiiricomic.com ; If you've seen it before, its formatted into long tapestry-ish images that you scroll down, it was for a school project about optimizing for mobile, so you could load the page/images and not have to click next over and over again.

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Okay, I need to rest my arms for a bit. But a heads up that the hiatus is in fact ending.
Especially if I'm to join Caturday tonight

I also fixed a problem with the latest page, I forgot to put a bag on the elf guy.

Link here http://agrestthethief.tumblr.com/

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>>89649774
Here's the bear with my feeble attempts at photoshopping the thing for color maybeatsomepoint.

>>89644149
that is better flow, but remember you raise arms and legs on alternating sides, not the same sides.
>>89646912
this is a hell of a great story, with an unexpectedly silly climax.. though he seems a little happy at the end considering his wife's still dead. I would think it'd be a little more bittersweet and calm a feel
>>89649574
whoa, infected bear. cordyceps?
his right elbow seems a bit low.
>>89649185
it really does make the characters look like real-life flat pieces of paper walking around doesn't it? but I think he's going for that

>>89647431
>>89647504
>>89650176
I like this new direction you're going in, and I'm happy your wrist pain is less than permanent. That shit gets too many good artists

>>89651073
Think cordyceps combined with rabies that targets predators and is transmitted through saliva

>>89643826
Fight Club meets Escaflowne but MGTOW-free.

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Added more pages. It will be colored when I'm finished. Which may be months away seeing what I have in mind.

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pacing here is weird. Pg1 is actually pg3. This page was drawn after pg 3. I story boarded out about 10 pages, but then I find a way to smooth the flow out. So its like having some pages as keyframes, then I add in some inbetween.

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I also need a better onomatopoeia for rocket thrusters. >_>

>>89651694
awesome. i had a boar creature with symbiotic glowing fungi, but I think this is cooler

>>89654365
"SHOOOOOOOM" works pretty well.

>>89654429
I may go for "swhoom" when he's taking off. "Rumble" for when he's landing.

Not sure about the "vrr" sound coming from the distance though.

>>89649185
I like how I shade my stuff, but I do see what you are saying. I need to possibly find a nice even ground between the two, because that's what I want the style to look like.

>>89651073
I am going for a flat paper style, with Paper Mario's aesthetic being a big inspiration.
One of the problems though is that you can tell that they aren't flat from how I shaded them, so it makes it an unbalanced mix between the two shading styles.
Shading is still one of the things I need to work on, and I am slowly learning how to do it better.

>>89643425
>>89637987
>>89636742
>>89613597
>>89608316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1vYtmk2410

>>89647609
It's just a one off. Any tips for improving the pacing next time around?

>>89651073
Totally agree with you anon, but the comic was done as a final project for a class and I decided to do a pure happy ending rather than bittersweet for reasons that gave me a better grade.

>>89658432
shows what i know, if i had to guess i'd assume art schools would give you extra points for not going with a happy ending

>>89590087
looks good, but the last panel looks like you put about 1/100th of the time into it that you did the rest of the page...

>>89659487
man speaking of glowy effects, they can be really hard and timeconsuming but they're SO fun

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>tfw you want to work on your comic but you have a 200 word essay due tomorrow

>>89661273
Ganbatte, anon-kun. The sooner you finish your essay the sooner you can focus on your comic again!

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>>89661273
>tfw you want to make a comic, but you have no story

>>89661849
what if that birb wants to be a dancer?

>>89661860
But birb dancers are unheard of or ridiculed for their birb legs.

>>89661987
there you go. we have a desire and an antagonism

>>89661860
>what if that birb wants to be a dancer?
I don't know the first thing about dancing, but that's actually not a bad idea. Since that would improve my technical skills as an artist.

>>89661987
Especially legs like this, which appear to have no femur whatsoever, all tibia and foot. How would you sit? Extreme squat I suppose, with your heels up in your armpits or sticking out behind you

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>>89659487
Was going for the hard glowing effect. Like Marte Gracia since he's my favorite colorist. Like how he does the color effects off of the characters in the bottom panel. Trying to figure out valus of light and shadows for yellow are hard.

>>89661987
>>89662200
>>89662245
Well I might change it for story telling purposes, that way I'm not having to design animal specific gear. And I could spend more time humanizing the characters, which I feel is more important.

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>>89662245
Don't mean to spam the thread, but I guess I could man up and just make things up to accommodate these things. Like have short stools that turn into a perch rather than a seat.

>>89662438
oh that is top notch coloring.

>>89662580
Well I was sort of suggesting you alter them a bit so they're more like actual bird legs which have a femur, even if it's short. then the seats are easy
this is a cute alien girl to the max.

>>89662667
Yeah, Immonen, Von Grawbadger, & Gracia is my all-time favorite art team.

Does anyone else have a problem with being overwhelmed by inspiration? I feel like I'm constantly searching for references instead of actually working on my comic. And most of those references I don't get a chance to look back on because all of my files are unorganized. I really don't feel like sorting through tens of thousands of refs eithers.

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>>89662580

>>89662697
oh I see what you mean. I'll play around with her legs some more then.

>>89661273
>tfw all you have to work with is a mouse so everything you draw comes out like shit so you just keep obsessively redrawing pages in different ways hoping one wont make you want to delete it

>>89662875
I miss that
why does your inspiration need so many references?
>>89662935
now see much nicer that would look if you slid the entire leg as you've drawn it forward, and then connected the knee to the hip with a nice thigh bone?

>>89663038
tablet time, guy. you can get them for under a hundo if you buy chinese slave labor

>>89663131
Being a worthless NEET kind of puts a damper on that whole process, luckily that might be changing soon

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>>89663106
more like this?

>>89663312
yeah that's much better. but now the tibia's too short again, so by all means increase it. in that perch position, if the heels are right under the butt, you're good to go
looking up some dinosaurs is always a good way to go too

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The glowy glowy took a while, but it was worth it I think. Even let it cast light on Sasha. It was a bit more spectacular in my head since the diablovellus is so metallic and I wanted to really show that for once, but the bits on the skin look good I think.
i've had the punchline in mind for a solid long time. it just seems like something I'd do

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>>89663626
this will be last update on this image. But here's small change for making her legs longer, as well as me playing around with her leg design.

>>89664057
awesome. lovin it

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>>89663312
desu really want "realistic" anatomy you should consider giving your bird girl here a long pelvis like birds instead of a human shaped one.

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>>89664327
If you were to shift a bird to standing upright you really wouldn't see much of those thighs at all because they'd be lost in a mess of feathers with the rump. The first leg iteration was a fine stylization.

>>89664327
huh, I never noticed how far forward a bird's legs are. that explains why my bird drawings always look wrong.. but look great standing up

>>89664327
>>89664454
I'll just redraw her with more human like legs. If only to simplify things, I don't really want to zootopia it and draw a world that has to accommodate every creature I decide to throw into it. And that's not including how they would have to interact with one another. She can still have trouble dancing, as that's a problem that people can face.

>>89665624
fuck human legs. the cute stylized birbness is what made her cute in the first place. i hate it when cartoon birds just have human legs with bird toes jutting right out of the ankle with no foot at all.
I think you had it perfect >>89664057 here, particularly the 2nd and 3rd of the ones at the top, and the side view is perfect as long as you draw em longer (because longlegginess is what made this birb so dance-tastic)

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>>89665662
Yea I know what you mean. I don't really want to default to giving the characters gloves and shoes. I'll think about it more. Mainly because I do plan on adding things like cats and dogs, and I don't want to be giving them animal legs.