Prequel

good, the fanart booru was cancer

Wondering why I was still drawing porn.

That was like four years ago.

>>89576064

plague?

>>89575742
If he doesn't want to do it anymore can't he just wrap it up quick-like?
It all ends in blood & fire anyway, we've known this since the title page. Speed that shit up, gibbe sum closure.

>>89576093
>Plague
>porn
lel

>>89576405
>he doesn't know about 1800

>>89576405
He did it under a different name. It's very obvious anon.

>>89576412
>>89576424
...You're fucking with me, surely.

>>89577719
How new are you? Look up "34from1800"

>>89577719
I am not. And don't call me Shirley.

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>>89576412
>>89577719
>>89578995

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>>89575742
Waiting for it to update.

>>89578995
I'm not an entrenched Prequelfag and only recently got a good feel for Plague's style, don't judge me.
>>89580712
Was that the last update?

>>89580828
I don't think so, just something I saved from a previous "Prequel is dead" thread.

Nobody but furries cared about it anyways.

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>>89580712
Look at him, look at him and laugh.

>>89576412
>>89578995
OH SHIT THAT GUY
Love his stuff. Always wondered why there was so little.
Are you sure?

Everything on the site is breaking today! Can you guys tell me:

A) if you can get to the fanart page, and
B) if you see ads in the comment section?

Apparently disqus decided to become a pay service the same day something got weird on my fanart page.

>>89581915

A.) Yes.
B.) Can't tell, I use uBlock Origin. Afraid to turn it off to see.

>>89581915
Hey Kaz, what do you think about ESO going back to Morrowind
What would you do if Bethesda approached you to do a fancomic thing, like they did with Penny Arcade and Fallout?

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>>89582087
Huh, thanks.

>>89582154
Wasn't like 1/9th of ESO already set in Morrowind? This feels like making a Skyrim expansion called "Whiterun". I'm also a bit dubious about a trailer that exclusively shows off a dwarven ruin with the three dwarven enemies that have been showing up since Morrowind.

I am pretty sure Bethesda would not ask me to do a comic. Those are a marketing move and my assessment of their work is rarely positive.

Anyway, I've been fucking with site problems all day, I'm gonna get blasted. Anyone wanna come?

>>89582760
Nah, the dwemer buster isn't in any game, that's the first time we've ever actually seen guns in any elder scrolls game actually

>>89575742
How fucking hard is it to update a web comic like this? What is it 3k words and maybe a picture or two?

>>89582760
Just admit the webcomic is done you stupid cat-drawing psych undergrad

>>89582760
>getting blasted
>when we're still waiting for an update

Damn it Kaz. Although that sounds like a good idea...

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>>89582760
Fuck you pickle pooper, I've never actually seen an update.

>>89582760
so are you rebooting it or is it dead?

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Now even Lackadaisy has updated with more speed.

>>89582844
It's a centaurion. If you give a human a flamethrower, it doesn't make her a dragon.

>>89583026
I'm working on it! One of he challenges of these things is sometimes you'll realize midway through that the writing has a problem and you need to change the thing slightly. I'm in that phase now. Someone else is looking at my new draft, so right now it's booze o'clock

picarto.tv/Kazerad

>>89583120
>If you give a human a flamethrower, it doesn't make her a dragon.

What if you give them a dragon's soul

>>89583131
Dragonborn isn't a real dragon

Yeah come fight me tumblr

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>>89583120
Just wanted to say I still love you Kaz and am looking forward to the update!

Prequel remains the one of my favorite random internet discoveries to this day.

>>89583174
Skyrim dragons aren't dragons either, they're wyverns.

>>89583210
Wyverns are a subspecies also depends on the setting

>>89583174
If dwarves can be elves and lizards can be trees, the dragonborn can be a dragon.

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>>89583255
this

>>89583255
Cats and elves, there's a genocidally insane gay robot running around hitting stuff with a mace, spaceships are moths, penises are spears, the world is a clock.
Why can the dragonborn not be a dragon?

>>89582154
Oh god they're gonna rape it

>>89583120
Kaz, I love ya and your comic. But hopefully you're almost close to being done, cause we're dying for more. Also promise to make smaller updates to get back on a consistent schedule.

>>89583452
Screenshots and leaked data make it look alright

>>89583570
Can you regale me with positive tales because my experience with ESO is like going to an elder scrolls themed theme park made by venture capitalists.

>>89583678
Skyrim and Oblivion were TES theme parks too. The sins ESO commits are the same ones that exist in normal TES games.

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>>89583678

>>89583570
Gameplay, maybe

But they're going to fuck the lore. ESO is basically just a giant lore assfucking machine, because Elder Scrolls has gotten less subtle and complex over time and ESO is a culmination of that because they also have to appeal to the MMO crowd, IE a bunch of mouthbreathing chimps

>>89583722
>they're going to fuck the lore
People who say this never actually played ESO and just listened to what /v/ said. Even lore people like trainwiz say it's alright and even made good additions.

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What are Kaz's thoughts on Kirkbride's meme lore?

>>89583414
all dragons are dragonborn
a dragonborn is a mortal race with a dragon soul
dragons already have dragon souls

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>>89583722

>>89583853
Did she say that the only reason she survived for this long is because she is an Argonian?

>>89583883
the next dialogue after that she mentions that the poison itself wouldn't be a problem for her if it hadn't also been enchanted with cold

>>89583853
Argonians, even in the main series, were never fully immune to all poisons naturally, it was stated to be an acquired trait from living in Black Marsh (hence why argonians in Morrowind were immune but more cosmopolitan ones were only resistant, and the ones living in remote Skyrim didn't have it at all).
Sithis being openly worshipped isn't new. It's more accurate to say he's not openly known. Thinking Sithis is some edgy DB exclusive death god is actually being more inaccurate.

>>89583414

the king of the Ka Po Tun literally became a dragon.

but he was a tiger man, so he became the Tiger-Dragon-King of Akavir.

>>89582760
>my assessment of their work is rarely positive.
I feel like once you're a hardcore fan of something for a long time, you eventually start to hate the execs even if you love the work itself. Your mock review had some good ideas to improve the MMO even if some of them were far-fetched but how would you improve on the new TES? Skyrim and the eventual TES VI I mean

>>89576379
>If he doesn't want to do it anymore can't he just wrap it up quick-like?

No more sadcat = no more money and verbal bj's. It might not update anymore, but it's not going anywhere so long as people still sing Kaz's praises every time he shows up and give him money in exchange for promises of updates that he has no intention of keeping.

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>>89583941
Argonians are plot universal. They are a bunch of lizard trees that can be anything you want.
The design in the trailer are pretty radical! though.

>>89583941
Worshipping Sithis is stupid though, it's a physical force, not a god. It's like worshiping gravity.

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>>89584131
Is ESO canon anyway? The trailers they have are amazing

>>89584099
He said something about having different weapons than swords I think on his tumblr

>>89584271
It's canon.

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>>89584250
Redoran worships gravity.
>>89584271
I think it was canon but Todd later came out that it wasn't and I hope so.

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>>89583120
Hey Kaz, ever considered slightly extending the wait to toss out minor updates like some art requests or short 1-3 panel comics so the wait's more bearable?
I'm sure you could find some decent requests to upload to the site once it's in working order again, like the ones you sometimes do for these threads, or maybe a panel or two with side characters like Dodger for a gag or even to flesh them out a little.
I know it'd slow down your efforts at writing new stuff even more, but having some new stuff come out would make the time pass much more easily and maybe stop people rushing you so much.

>>89584250
we'll see who the foolish ones are when the time comes

the so called "rapture" shall be lord gravity releasing the heathens from his benevolent touch, do not believe their lies

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>>89575742

>>89583952
he is also most likely a dragonborn

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thread is gonna kill do smt desu

>>89581915
>>89582760
>>89583120
>>89583174
>>89583678
Eat a sack of baby dicks, Kaz. It's been over a year and you haven't done shit.

>>89586160
This. I'm tired of waiting, you keep doing these awful streams, and there is no reason for me to be around.

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>>89586160
>an entire fucking year

>>89586365
More than a year now. And he's still not sure what time it will be done.

>>89583120
>Midway through
> After well over a year
I fucking hate you you deplorable excuse for human trash. You make hussie look talented.

>>89586160
Yeah this is taking too long.

>>89583174
If the dragonborn is dragon enough to be recognized as the top dragon of nirn he/she is dragon enough

>>89583086
Several times, and art a millions times better!

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>>89586400
There's a long list of projects and stuff that can be accomplished in about 1 year. But apparently a prequel update is more daunting than anything on that entire list.

>>89583766
It's interesting. Kind of depressing towards but just before the end. Is there any truth to this?

>shitty copyright infringing webcomic gets taken down
>shitty fanbase dies for good
Good riddance.

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>>89587084
>tfw the world will literally end before prequel updates

>>89583766
What the fuck did I just read?

>>89583249
In actual mythology, wyverns are only ever referred to as "dragonlike" rather than as being dragons. But yes, it usually depends on the setting. Even D&D has them as dragons, though they're considered "lesser dragons".

>>89583766
Nerevar x Vivec OTP

>>89587741
The first half is the Creation story of TES, the latter half is a possible future where Numidium returns and wrecks the world.

>>89587236
> Get scared the world is ending
> Reassure myself I'm overreacting
> Come online to 4chan
> Find out scientists think were actually nearing the end of the world.

well fuck

>>89590917
That's not really how the doomsday clock works, though. It's more of a subjective statistic chance of nuclear war.

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>>89575742
>>89580712

Kazerad is a pathetic drunk at this point. Nobody cares about your opinions, just finish your stupid cat comic.

>>89591713
> greasy haired gnome streaming from a Denny's

Reminder that whatever Kaz comes up with for the next update, is not gonna be worth waiting a year and a half for.

>>89580712
>>89580828
This came from an art stream ages ago if anyone is still curious. He also made a Katia T-Rex and the Wendy's Mascot shooting a burger out of a bow. Good night.

>>89591713
I'm starting to think he has a legit drinking problem. It would explain the bar streaming and inability to put out a product.

>>89593445
It's like you've never drank before. He's said explicitly that he outsourced assets and those fellas fell through. His drinking is just a fun distraction that generates revenue. Kaz is too logical to ever be truly malevolent.

>>89594346
That was what he said last thread. Now he's changed to "needs re-writes" again: >>89583120

It will never update again. He will eventually just declare he has moved on to other projects that hold his interest better and didn't know how to announce his canceling of further Prequel updates.

>>89594384
Maybe he's rewriting the part he needs the missing resources for?

>>89594676
he'll never do it friendo

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Get back to the rice fields argonian

>>89595658
Get back to your crater, ashface.

>>89595715
Too soon.

>>89584271
It's canon but it's fine because as with Bethesda tradition, succeeding Elder Scrolls games aren't affected by previous ones, only mentioned and referenced to.

>>89595658
>>89595715
What do you guys think the setting of VI will be? Personally, I'm really hoping for Black Marsh.

>>89596329
Hammerfell if they go full Skyrim 2.0 or Valenwood because it fits the leaks and "we don't have the tech" from Todd.

Well it's official.

Valve time>Kaz time

And I'm talking about the comics.

>>prequel hasn't updated in over a year
>better make another thread so everyone knows nothing's happened since the last one

>>89596433
...there are leaks?

>>89580712
It's been like 15 months now

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>>89596753
pic related, this was before fallout 4 was announced i think, or at least the dlcs

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>>89596797
>Project Greenheart

Well, damn, how did I never see this?

>>89590842
>>89587741
>>89583766
I remember shit being MUCH weirder but this is a great summary

>Shit comic
>Stealing lore from a setting that is better written than you could ever possibly hope to match
>Furbait poll that ignored legitimate results
>Passive-aggressive author that doesn't care about you.

Prequel threads shouldn't even exist on /co/. The prequel """fanbase""" has to be the most spineless and pussy-whipped fandom I have ever seen.

>>89584111
This. A lot of webcomic creators go for the single flash-in-the-pan and try to wring every last drop out of it instead of making several small things and building a trust with their fans.

>>89596797
Yeah that was before Fallout 4 was announced, people were disregarding the whole list because Nuka World sounded so fucking stupid it couldn't be real.

>>89584340
Keep an eye on his picarto. He does drunk streams and art requests

>>89590917
>>89591222
Firstly, it's not just nuclear war anymore. It includes things like Global Warming

Secondly, Trump moved it 30 seconds closer. This is tiny compared to other things. It is in fact, the smallest change ever. In 2015 it moved 2 seconds closer because "concerns amid continued lack of global political action to address global climate change, the modernization of nuclear weapons in the United States and Russia, and the problem of nuclear waste"

TL;DR - don't be worried, it ain't shit

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>>89599889
WTF is this meme clock anyway? What else, Mayan calendar ends? Scary!

>Nuzlocke updated before Kaz
come on Kaz, I love you
finish the fight
or at least, continue the fight.

get it done before TES6 at least
(>implying Bethesda will ever be finished milking Skyrim)

>>89597336
>Stealing lore from a setting that is better written than you could ever possibly hope to match

Even that wouldn't be quite so damning if he weren't ripping off something so dull and generic- just about the only aspect of TES lore that's actually interesting are bookends with the gods and the giant magitech robot.

>>89597336
>>89600457
How the fuck is a fan comic stealing?

>>89599848
Not art requests, commissions. And usually the commissions of the same 5 people.

>>89600108
Fuck you TES VI Valenwood will be great

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>>89600862
>tfw I would write every single quest taking into consideration race, factions, skills, companions you brought along and even gender if it meant i could actually play them.
Being a TES fan is suffering.

>>89601319
You could still do that though. You obviously know what you want out of a game like that and you might even have a knack for writing game stories so why not take it upon yourself to make that game? You'll never have the funding to achieve TESV or VI's tech prowess but these days indie games look better than Oblivion at least. You can build the game of your dreams, just don't call it TES and you're gucci.

>>89602272
Too bad that I want this in the TES universe. This series has the most vast and complex bumble-fuck of lore of any videogame series.

>>89582760
Why do you put sugar on the rim if you drink it through a straw?

>>89602403
Aren't most of them reskins of other games' ideas though? Up until Morrowind the story feels like your run-of-the-mill DnD campaign. You don't really need Bethesda's permission to use Beastfolk or dark elves if you want nuanced history you can just do a Dwarf Fortress playthrough. Hell you could even be creative and attempt to not make a Tolkied derivative, those usually stand out.

>>89602512
I think that's salt anon. for symbolism

>>89599889
>In 2015 it moved 2 seconds closer because "concerns amid continued lack of global political action to address global climate change, the modernization of nuclear weapons in the United States and Russia, and the problem of nuclear waste"


Yeah, but that was over several years of inactivity. The trump administration moved it forward in literally a few days.

>>89602512
Kaz didn't make that margarita. If he makes anything food/beverage related he'll injure himself.

>>89602608
Well, obviously, I meant the question as aimed at more of a general "people who make/come up with those things"

>>89601319
>tfw I would write every single quest taking into consideration race, factions, skills, companions you brought along and even gender if it meant i could actually play them.

Previous entries in the series have done this, though. I recall being called the TES equivalent of a nigger a few times in my argonian playthrough of Skyrim.

Or you could actually try to get a job at Bethesda.

>>89602598
>The trump administration moved it forward in literally a few days.
That was in response to his entire attitude and promises, though

Unless he does something even more extreme than what he was promising there shouldn't be another step forward in a while

>>89602705
>Unless he does something even more extreme than what he was promising there shouldn't be another step forward in a while

So that's a yes?

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HAHA
TIME FOR BETS
Prequel will update
>next week
>some time february
>before summer for sure
>this year
>NEVER EVER

>>89602714
Probably, but considering the shit he was spouting that would be a bit of an effort.

Maybe if war is declared against China.

>>89602743
Well, at least we can all play Fallout 5 a bit sooner. This is a bethesda thread, right?

>>89602764
Pretty much
I always wanted to be a nameless mook raider

>>89600747
then get a commission yourself. fucking poorfags

>>89602676
>Or you could actually try to get a job at Bethesda.
That's like telling a star wars fan to work for lucasfilm after episode 1 came out are you crazy, he's gonna jump off the top floor of the office within a week if he does that..

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Holy shit, I can't believe I used to look up to this guy. Nothing says "failure" like shitting on your fans, riding on their dicksucking and delusions, without working at all.

Kinda makes Kazerad's DeviantArt posts he sent anonymously to Dobson hilarious, since he's no better than that piece of shit - Dobson, quite literally, at least still draws his shitty comic. While Kaz just does nothing at all.

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>>89602764
Yes

>>89602741
It is February anon. I'm quite sure the update will hit on early March, juding by Kazerad's revision process.

>>89602789
I wanted too but then I saw this
https://youtu.be/XcDfWj3Sek0

>>89602825
B O H E M I A N
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>>89602676
You were called a nigger but that never effected your quests.
When was the last time a Dunmer refused to give you a quest because you are a Khajiit or Argonian? When was the last time a Nord wanted to be a follower just because you are a Nord or would follow only a Nord? When was the last time a Khajiit agreed to fuck you after you offered her money? When was the last time you could skip part of a mission because you are a Argonian and could just waltz in the toxic fumes without instantly dying? When was the last time a shop keeper shat his pants and gave you a better deal because you are a 2.5 meter Orc? When was the last time Prequel updated?
TES games have never actually been real RPGs. They just had open worlds with character leveling.

>>89602741
>>this year
I'm willing to risk it

>>89602900
I wonder what it's like to be bethesda and realize that not only did Obsidian make a better fallout game than you in a quarter of the time, they would also make a better elder scrolls game than you've ever made in the same time if given the chance.

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>>89602953
Like pic related.

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>>89602953

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>>89602741
>some time february

>>89602953
>in a quarter of the time
To be fair they just used the F3 engine and made tweaks. Even then, NV had some terrible bugs early on. Mechanically speaking NV isn't really any better than F3.

The reason NV is so good is because of the options it gives and the story. The story builds up the whole game, before it becomes crunch time for the choices. If you just went exploring in F3 you'd never know what the main story was about.

This is the same reason F4 was kinda lame. The motive is shit (no one gives a shit about the child, you running around doing side quests instead of main story only enforces this). Choosing a side feels kinda bad when some of the sides might not fight at all (like would the Minutemen fight the Railroad?)

>>89600491

Stealing copyright.

>>89583120
Kaz, buddy, guy, my friendo. There comes a point that a writing problem stops being a good excuse for a single update after a certain amount of time and you have clearly long passed that point. You can't have a webcomic and expect people to stick around after more than a year of no updates whatsoever. Throw us a bone Kaz, there must be SOMETHING you can do in the interim. I get this is an experiment for you but it really shouldn't take you this long for a single update, even if it's supposed to be relatively big. The more you wait to release something, the angrier your fanbase will get. You're already at the point where nothing you can release will ever be satisfying for the amount of time it has taken. At the very least you should just say you're putting Prequel on hiatus rather than stringing everyone along by saying "don't worry guys, I'm totally working on it and I'll have it finished soon™" You either need to release something or just take a break, the more you try to stay in the middle, the more of your already dwindling fanbase will just get frustrated and give up.

>>89602900
The thing is, no video game RPG is truly an RPG in the sense that they have little to no room for creative improvisation. I always wondered why RPGs were called that until I played tabletop RPGs, then I realized what the RP in RPG should stand for. The closes to what you're describing is a few roguelikes like Dwarf Fortress but that's only possible because of how abstracted everything is. If you wan't the RPG expirience in a videogame that plays like Skyrim you'd need some hella smart AI to DM for you so it can improvise on the spot and have everything respond to what you're doing. It's simply not possible to prepare for everything/
One could program in racial biases, intimidation factors and non-linear questlines but that's like filling a pool a bucket at a time. What you're looking for is to make player stories feel impactful but with the tech we have games are either pre-written stories you can change minute details about or completely free-form.

>>89603191
nice meme

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>>89603191
Ever heard of fair use?

>>89576412
> this conversation

> every single time plague is mentioned

like fucking clockwork.

>>89603545
People want plague to draw lewd lewds again.

I'm one of them.

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>>89603278
I mean goddamn people seem to not get this. At best you can trademark a character's design but that's about it. Brand names, logos, music, assets and scenarios are off-limits but you can't trademark racism against cat people or evil pantheon with gods that are dicks. I can't sell Elder Scrolls t-shirts, I can't sell mugs with the Empire's logo but I can sell as many posters of Whiterun or Nazeem bodypillows as I damn please. I once got downvoted to oblivion on reddit because I suggested someone could sell their fanart that depicted prominent characters of a franchise. I could sell Katia arwork and Kazerad wouldn't be able to do shit about it, provided this was original artowrk and not a print of a thign they drew.

>>89603699
>I could sell Katia arwork
do it

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>>89603699
Technically Bethesda could claim things under fair use if they choose to but that is a very stupid move marketing wise. I don't know if Kaz can come after your drawings but I'm sure Bethesda can. Bethesda technically owns all mods without unique assets.

>>89584250
>not worshiping Gravity

Throw the unbeliever from the highest peak and let our God show his might!

>>89603745
There's a guy on redbuble selling prequel stuff as we speak
He's selling because these people the original creators can't be bothered to mobilise a legal chase on him. He's not in the legal but he's making money nonetheless. What I meant is that I coud sell prequel /legally/, provided it's transformative (e.g. fanart).
I could probalby draw and sell stuff if I could justify to myself devoting time to it but I'd just be one of many, there are lots of others who do it already.

>>89603904
I think you meant 'Bethesda could claim your things /don't/ fall under fair', fair use is what allows you to use other's IP without infringing on their copywright.

>>89604270
>Looked it up
>Its all crap you can make on arts-cow but more expensive

Who'd even buy this?

>>89603699
Pretty sure you're full of shit bud, fair use lets you use copyrighted materials for the purposes of criticism or education or if you're doing a news report on it, fanart doesn't fall under fair use, they just don't usually come after people for it unless they're asking for money. For a recent example of someone who thought they could charge for their fan work see the Star Trek fan film Anaxar

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>>89604466
Fanart is more to fair use than showing the original. Stop criticizing Kaz for some legal shit you don't even understand. If you want to bitch, bitch about no update or how shit his writing or how he cant draw or whatever.

>>89604762
I'm not criticizing kaz for anything, I'm criticizing that guy for being full of shit about fair use.

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>>89604466
>>89604966
Wikipidea 'Transformativeness'
"In United States copyright law, transformativeness is a characteristic of some derivative works that makes them transcend, or place in a new light, the underlying works on which they are based.[..] Such transformativeness weighs heavily in a fair use analysis and may excuse what seems a clear copyright infringement from liability."

I mean goddamn just do a google serach before calling someone full of shit.

>>89602741
YOU HAVE A FAT CAT ASS YOU FAT CAT
OH MY GOD I KNOW RIGHT UGH

>>89605049
The argument was still full of shit, he said " I can't sell mugs with the Empire's logo but I can sell as many posters of Whiterun or Nazeem bodypillows as I damn please"
and there is no inherent difference in transformativeness between those two things, so clearly transformativeness wasn't the basis of the argument.

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>>89605361
Transformativeness doesn't apply to brand names and logos. Same way you can't sell a McDonald's 'Golden Arches' t-shirt but you can sell Ronald McDonald fanart just fine.

>>89605529
https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirts/mcdonalds-parody

>>89602741
>This year
I'm a risk taker.

>>89584382
Underrated.

There are many webcomic artists who have posted over 200 pages since Kazerad last updated Prequel...

>>89605361
The two concepts that people always confuse are Trademark and Copyright.

Trademarks are symbols or words used to identify a brand. When you're talking about Elder Scrolls stuff, a trademark would be things like the Imperial insignia or maybe the daedric O used as Oblivion's icon, as well as words like "Skyrim" or "Elder Scrolls". Trademarks have to be specifically registered to apply, and a trademark violation entails using these things in a context where they could cause confusion. This is why Notch ran into legal problems when he tried to make a game called Scrolls.

Copyright has to do with specific portrayals. Like, it would be a copyright violation if you made a game that used Nazeem's character model from Skyrim, but not if you sold a Nazeem body pillow you drew yourself. It would be transformative if you made a collage from a cut up picture of Nazeem. As soon as you make anything, it is automatically copyrighted to you with no need to register. You can still transfer copyrights via contracts - this is what I did for things like Katia's green robe. Since I was selling prints with the actual sprite she drew, I needed to acquire the rights for it.

>>89602900
>When was the last time a Dunmer refused to give you a quest because you are a Khajiit or Argonian?

Oh, come on. That might sound cool in theory, but would be totally annoying if implemented. Imagine if one of the most interesting and lore-filled sidequests was canned because you chose the wrong race at the start?

>>89606141
It would be fucking amazing, because there would many quests that do this for different races or at least hinder you. It would be worth playing with different characters. Every playthrought would be different.

>>89606252
Yeah, but this isn't a Souls game we're talking about. The average amount of time I usually put into a ES/FO game is 300+ hours. That's not something I want to repeat.

And by the way, they did do this in FO4, and it was a pain in the ass. I accidentally advanced in the Minutemen questline and suddenly boom - can hardly interact with the other factions aside from some sidequests. Shit sucks, m8.

>>89606305
>The average amount of time I usually put into a ES/FO game is 300+ hours.

*meant playthrough

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>>89606097
>the actual sprite she drew
I assume you mean acerbicAves who drew it as a suggestion, right? It's neat that you contacted them for the copyrights though. Did they sell it or give it away?
But yeah, the rest of that is what I've been trying to tell people and I've gotten a lot of hate for, in multiple occassions. Guess people don't like hearing a franchise they like hasn't got such a tight grip on their IP.

>>89605942
Parody is also under fair use but a lot of those are of questinable legality.

>>89606305
No they didn't do it for FO4, they just locked you out of factions.
Every playthrough would have different outcomes.
>only 300
casual

>>89606517
I stand by my point. Locking content out of the game for players because of choices they have unconsciously made early on is dumb. It's fine to change content based on your actions, but to simply say "you can't do this" because of an early game decision (or just straight up character creation) is plainly annoying and crippling.

>>89606360
Yeah, it was her. I offered payment but she just gave it for free.

I don't think people are worried about franchises not having a tight grip on their intellectual property as much as they're worried about me getting in trouble. There's a reason, though, that everything I actually sell is scrubbed of trademarks. Even the Dodger sidestory avoids ever using any TES terms. Which led to some fun things, like "the skoom".

>>89602900
God, those are some smoldering elves. That bosmer is especially DTF.

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>>89606598
No its fucking not! You're a filthy casual who prefers to play one Mary Sue for 1000+ hours than to actually play a RPG where choices have consequence (yes even at the start of the game) where you play as realistic characters with actual weaknesses and downfalls.

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>>89606864
Look, not everybody an endless supply of free time like you, pal. Some of us like to be able to say we've fully completed a game in 1-2 playthroughs.

I can even give you an example of why what you're describing is inconvenient: in Dark Souls 3 there's an achievement you can get for acquiring all character gestures; it's pretty straightforward but in order to get it you need to fail a character's questline and miss out on some cool armor/items. Sure, you can try to get both by going into a new game cycle, but at that point you're just repeating the exact same game with one minor difference. I ask you, does that sound like a good way to design a game?

>>89607222
If you care so much about achievements then you should be willing to replay that shit a couple times.

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>>89607222
If you don't have the time why do you care so much about 100% a game. And with way the game is made it should be the same thing every time.

>>89607311
I do, but getting every achievement in DS3 is achievable in a single play through (granted, over a couple new game cycles), which is nowhere near 300+ hours.

>>89607321
>If you don't have the time why do you care so much about 100% a game.
I'm somewhat of a perfectionist. That being said, if there's a ton of dumb shit you need to do to get everything (see, Last Guardian), then I'll gladly opt out.

>And with way the game is made it should be the same thing every time.
Doesn't that completely go against your previous points?

>>89606684
Does your tiny manlet heart die a little every time you read something mean about yourself in the thread?

For what it's worth, I actually enjoy you - mainly your tumblr posts from back in the day. Wish you'd made more of them. I don't give too much of a shit about your sad cat comic, but you should probably pull yourself together before you drink yourself to death. Or don't, but write some more things first.

>>89607222
The idea isn't that there'd be one or two side quests you get fucked on because you're a dirty black marsh ligger, the idea is that the world around you would react logically to your race. Different dialogue, different quests available, different facial expressions on the dunmer you're talking to. Basically, fantasy realism.

>that will never happen
Duh.

>>89607548
>Different dialogue, different quests available, different facial expressions on the dunmer you're talking to. Basically, fantasy realism.

I'm perfectly fine with that, just not cut content for the sake of being "realistic". Also, are you implying all Dunmer are racist?

>>89607614
Every elder scrolls race is racist to each other. But at least they can all agree on "fuck the altmer" even other altmer.

>>89607692
So the Altmer are basically the TES version of slavs?

>>89607614
Just call it "alternative content" instead of "cut content".

>>89602764
Time to stack up on bottlecaps I guess.
Also Kazerad will update.

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>>89607405
>dumb shit
What dumb shit? Combat? The quests would be different or handle differently depending on your character. That's practically a different story. So it must be the gameplay. In this alternative universe where TES is actually an RPG the combat is good as well. If you don't like gameplay then you are a filthy casual.
Also: shouldn't*

>>89607548
Its not fucking cut content. You can start another character and play as you want to see what you want to see from this content.
>inb4 everything in one playthrougth
>>89607728
Thalmor are Jew tier. Normal Altmer are Japs. Argonians are more like slavs.

>>89607927
Its not fucking cut content. You can start another character and play as you want to see what you want to see from this content.
>inb4 everything in one playthrougth

I'm not sure you meant to quote me, because I ostensibly agree with you. If you did, and that was your response, kindly eat a bullet. If you survive you can't be any fucking dumber than you are now, and if you die - nothing of value was lost.

If not, disregard the above, but learn to read over your posts before posting.

>>89608128
>eat a bullet
Thats a lot of rage for a mistake was meant for>>89607614

>>89607927
>In this alternative universe where TES is actually an RPG the combat is good as well. If you don't like gameplay then you are a filthy casual.

I don't know, pal. It just seems like you don't like the elder scrolls.

>>89608402
>Dislike.
No.
>Think it could be 10000% better.
Yes.

>>89608630
I mean, if you don't like the mechanics and you don't like the gameplay, then what do you like? The story? Then just read the wikipedia page on it, dude.

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>>89608671
Well I haven't played any Elder Scrolls games in around 6 months. So I guess my main experience with the franchise is watching a guys talking about the lore and how the games could be better on Youtube, shitposting on rice field anonymous image boards, and reading the lore.

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>>89608816
So what you're saying is...

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>>89608888
The only one I haven't played is Arena and I haven't finished Daggerfall.
Stop trying to shitpost me because I criticize a game.
Nice get.

>>89608888
Liking a game or comic is different from liking a husband or wife. We look down on the abusive spouses who are like "I love you, in some ways. But I can make you way better". When you're talking about creative works, though, it's a healthy mindset. It leads to more creation, as we mod in the things we want, create fanwork that improves upon our favorite parts, or even carry inspiration into our own projects.

As much as we criticize TES, it deserves a degree of praise for having potential while being just sub-par enough that we are inspired to do these things. This guy can look at it and imagine an amazing RPG with lots of replay value. I can look at it and write a comic that gives character actual character. Trainwiz can look at it and make something that actually uses the cool lore. None of this would happen if it was perfect.

In short, it's healthy to hate creative works a little. You're not gonna hurt its feelings.

>>89607478
Nah, I think they're right to be upset, I am taking a long time. I am just hoping I can make it worth it.

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>>89607728

>>89575742
It's funny cause I literally checked the website, and when I didn't see anything I went to /co/
>There's probably a thread

>>89602741
After the next Kickstarter. Or the update where Kaz explains the Kickstarter, because bar anything else that shit should be out by now. What the fuck Kaz?

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So even though Prequel's never gonna update, what other webcomics have cute cat waifus? I already know about Beleth from Floraverse and someone recommended me Latchkey Kingdom on the /trash/ thread, but anyone else got suggestions?

>>89612691
Lackadaisy has some qts

>>89602741
before summer, for sure.
I'd be willing to bet 4. maybe 5

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>>89612691
Poppy Opossum.

This ones also a slut.

>>89612691
Twokinds has anime cat things. pretty good waifu material.

>>89613132
>Cute

>>89609523

I really dislike that way of thinking kaz, because most of the problems with the games were because they consciously neglected prooftesting or even fully developing the ideas they had. All they had to do was play their own game to see crafting was broken, dual wielding was broken, dragons were annoying, magic was unrewarding and absolutely unforgivable shit like the companions quest were awful.

They just didn't care, and someone who could have been making content for a good game they like(like fuckton of communities do), had to spend time fixing a mediocre one instead.

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>>89614892
>They just didn't care, and someone who could have been making content for a good game they like(like fuckton of communities do), had to spend time fixing a mediocre one instead.

It's not like the time someone spends making Skyrim mods is stealing away time they would've spent working on something they like more. A lot of people pursue mod work because they find fixing things to be enjoyable, or because they want to connect with a community who has similar genre interests to them, or even just because they want a testbed on which to experiment with game designs before investing tens of thousands of dollars in one. Game design isn't just having ideas - it takes experience and audience feedback, both of which modding, fanwork, and similar things can provide.

I don't think it's accurate to say "Skyrim is broken". It would be more accurate to say "Skyrim can be better". The problems with crafting, dragons, magic, etc. are more complicated than simple bug fixes, and there are many different directions the solutions could take. One person might think the answer is more spell variety, another person might think the answer is more powerful spells that consume more magicka, whereas someone else might endorse a rollback to vancian systems so people don't just rely on their one best spell. Flawed stuff inspires us to discuss its improvement and experiment with solutions, which lets us make better things in the future.

>>89615757
I'd reckon the larger problem is that every solution offers the same end. There's no reward for excelling at any one skill because the gameplay never changes despite your preferred means of engagement. The culmination of the civil war has little to no real effect, and assassinating the Emperor does nothing. It's a game of no consequence, good or bad. And that's BORING.

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What is quill weave had a hot sister?

>>89616581
Then this would still be a dead comic.

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What would happen if Katia passed out while the invisibilty cloak's hood was on?

>>89618299

It wears off in an hour or something, right?

>>89618899
You go blind for as long as you had it on afterwards, I think.

>>89618299
Do you mean pass out as in collapse in a pile of drunken unconsciousness, or just get drunk and not remember it afterwards?
In any case, exactly the same as what would happen normally, except she'd be invisible until the hood's timer expired/she took it off, after which she'd be blind for a period of time, which wouldn't affect her if she was sleeping.

>>89618935
Right, but if you pass out while the cloak is on, and you sleep for 9 hours, that basically means that you're always going to be offset for 9 hours unless you just do nothing for a whole day to get rid of the blindness. So it could really fuck her up if it happens.

>>89619082
The cloak won't work for 9 continuous hours, anon.
It runs out after like an hour, iirc

>>89619334
"A powerful one, too; last time she tested it, the spell lasted almost an hour. "
"No, you just lose your sight for as long as you were invisible, down to the second. The longer you stay invisible, the longer you can’t see afterwards, and by the time your sight comes back, the invisibility spell has recharged."

That's from the comic, so it sounds like it could be more than an hour.

>>89619343
She said it lasted almost an hour, so that could mean it ran out of juice at 58 minutes, or that she only kept it on for an hour.
Either way, all we know is that it can keep working for almost an hour. Whether it can work beyond that is anyone's guess.

>>89583210
"Wyverns" are a heraldic portrayal of dragons, you dumbfuck

>>89606598
People like you are why games are becoming more and more generic and bland.

When a game does come along that has neat mechanics that make the world feel a little more dynamic, you retards fucking cry about it because you can't farm every quest in the game.

>>89609523
>Nah, I think they're right to be upset, I am taking a long time. I am just hoping I can make it worth it.
Its pretty amazing how well versed yiu are in dealing with criticism. For what it's worth I believe in you.

>>89609523
You've said that you know the update won't be worth the wait already, Kaz.
That was in autumn of 2016

>>89621462
He's rewriting it so maybe it's getting better than he expected.

>>89615757
Will you stop writing essays and get to work, you layabout?

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>>89622021
>two small paragraphs
>essay

>>89620832

What world do you live in where deflecting and/or outright ignoring criticism counts as dealing with it?

>>89622119
what world do you live in where someone not blatantly arguing with you counts as passive aggressive?

>>89622056
He's written ten posts in the last day, probably more without his name.

I'd qualify that multiplied by the fucking year that he hasn't updated as "writing essays instead of working."

>>89622203
I don't think they come from such a world, considering they didn't say he was passive aggressive.

>>89622249
see
>>89597336

>>89622386
>The train of thought must be perserved through several anons and the entire conversation changing
wew lad

>>89622475
but he basically said the same thing

>>89622531
No? He said Kaz deflects and ignores criticism, which is comoletely different.

>>89603609
>again
>implying he ever stopped

Plague still draws the lewds, anon. There's no question. He just keeps them locked away now. Because "image", I guess.

>>89613132

that comic's also dead

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>tfw this is some mind game that kaz is playing that he will post about on tumblr

>>89623733
I'm convinced it is

Just go and look at the comments section of the last page if you don't believe it. Things have gotten strange, and pretty cancerous.

>>89609078
Let me save you the trouble, those were awful. Daggerfall is known as one of the buggiest, shittiest games ever released and unlike morrowind or oblivion, modders never fixed it.

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>>89623766
I think it's mostly because of having disqus as a forum rather than the waiting. Every forum with kids is equally cringy and disqus is basically a forum with only one thread so the autism is more concentrated.

It would be intresting to see Kazerad's take on making people wait for more than a year in a market that considers a couple months to be a long time, he does have a degree on these things after all

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>>89612691
Well, they aren't cats, but they're cute.

>>89582760

For a second I thought I was looking at a really elaborate doorknob.

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>>89612691
>Beleth
>caring about it when white Beleth doesn't exist anymore

>>89612691
>Floraverse

Why would you do that to yourself

>>89624195
I liked her things when she was PK, had some good porn IIRC. shame she purged everything

>>89615757

but kazerad, a lot of changes that improve the game in many mods ARE simple bug fixes and rebalances, the ideas are sound in many ways, but they half-ass it and just push the product out in a really poor state, they can't be excused for leaving their games as tech demos of sorts when they also aim to have a strong game direction and a deliberately crafted experience to the point of having those garbage cut scenes and written quest lines. These are not compatible visions in a game, they actively defeat eachother and modders have to battle it out to do it for them.

for example a common complaint is that the quest markers ruin the exploration aspect, and the game is designed around them so much that you can't turn them off without being left without a clue since NPCs no longer give you directions and you don't have a detailed journal anymore. In fact if you pick up the game after a while chances are you will have forgotten the context of a lot of the quests in your journal, and you won't know who or where gave them to you. They could literally just not have done this, it's superfluous when they even added a spell to guide players in, but instead of leaving it as a training wheel for the actual bad/less gifted players, they write their whole game around the lowest common denominator and it screws over everyone, that is straight up broken, and why no one even bothers with quests in the long run.

>>89625363
Even on that, I wouldn't feel confident in saying that it is an unambiguous improvement to describe the quests in a more detailed way. I can understand motivations for approaching the quest log in very stripped down and objective bullet points: it keeps everything very simple and quick to read, and it also doesn't impose any character that will conflict with the player's roleplaying (even Oblivion had some instances where your quest log sounded like justice-fetishizing Asotil dialogue). While it makes it impossible to play without quest markers, it is very possible that the simplified quest log had a net positive effect on people's ability to get into (and stay into) the game. Design things like that are subtle, but the fact is, a lot of people will just turn something off if they have to read too big of a text block.

You could make the argument that this is abandoning TES's core audience in favor of less hardcore console players, but it's within Bethesda's rights to do that if they want. I mean, I'm certainly not going to complain about them leaving behind a trail of disappointed TES fans looking to sate their nostalgia and loreboners! We can discuss our criticisms, field solutions (or even test them via mods!), and one day make a game that we view as better. Maybe it'll be a niche product that only appeals to people like us, or maybe we'll prove that Bethesda bet on the wrong pony with the console crowd. Whatever the case, it's more multi-faceted than simply fixing problems.

>>89626567

I'd take unambiguous wording in the journal over forced decisions like killing Paarthumax, or letting the companions get away with being murderous werewolves, or having quests your character would never accept like Lights out forced on you from talking to characters or becoming the leader of everything and everyone but still getting treated like a literally who, having to negotiate the civil war, etc.

I mean, i doubt anyone ever wanted to kill Paarthumax, but everyone -has to- because Delphine suddenly lords over you, even if it's not written how your character feels about it, at that point you still are practically powerful and famous enough to impose your will.

You dont get to roleplay in a game where these kinds of things happen, either.

>>89575742
a long long time ago,
I can still rememer when
web comics would make me smile
and I thought that I had a chance
If I read them I would laugh
and smile for the rest of my life
But 2016 made me shiver
The artists moved to patreon and I had to sell my liver
The comics were not free now
The artists thought that they were a cash cow
I deleted all my accounts,
Paid my schools bills
and moved back to my Parent's house
and it seems that we all lucked out
The day Kaz died.

>>89624052
What is it?

>>89626863
you do realize that you can specifically not kill paarthumax, and just get kicked out of the blades

>>89626567
I'm just throwing my hat into the ring here, but what about combat and enemy AI? Combat continues to feel Skyrimmy and the the AI can only be fixed so much and they seem like mutually exclusive changes. Or are you suggesting that, because of this, it will wave as a red flag to future devs?

By the way, what are your thoughts on Fallout 4? Did it suffer in comparison to Skyrim? Is it fair for it to be so hated?

>>89627104
OOPs, see >>89579301

>>89627378
AI is a complicated concept. We tend to assume a smart AI is better, but a lot of times we don't actually want intelligence - we want a narrative arc. We want something simple and predictable where we learn the pattern to defeating it, and can do it much easily in the future (e.g. swinging behind pillars when an enemy starts to shout, or learning that enemies forget us if we squat down for ten seconds after shooting them). To those of us who have played the game extensively, these things feel boring and we wish the AI provided us with new challenges to overcome. To a newer or more casual player, though, these things feel great. It's like they gamed the system and figured out the patterns. A smarter AI would just make the game feel chaotic and unfair to them.

Bethesda COULD'VE made a better AI for higher levels or difficulties, but I think it's a diminishing returns thing. They know most people will probably give up midway through (or worse, decide a review score), so most of their effort gets put into the front. It's probably why all the big reveals happen so early (e.g. werewolves), and why most of the questlines end with someone saying "congratulations! You are the hero, it's you" and it's never brought up again. I'd personally lean toward making a good ending so that you get more dedicated fans and log-lasting praise, but given Skyrim's success on both of those fronts, I can't say my tactics are truly the best.

As for FO4, I never got into the fallout series. The most I heard about FO4 after its release was when's Cider showed me a screenshot he took of his upgraded robot from some expansion (apparently it has expansions?). All I can say about it was that it was marketed very poorly, as I could not tell you anything that makes it different from FO3.

>>89626567
DO MORE PREQUEL YOU FUCK

>>89629597
I really appreciate your communication with your fans. You're super nice and interesting and I like your webcomic. Thanks for that.

>>89629597

Marketing can turn every wrong into a right i've noticed. Look at dark souls, it's a repetitive pseudo-rythm game where you just fail a lot until you figure out the combination of attacks and dodges, and all enemies follow that formula, but because it was sold as the "PREPARE TO DIE" hardcore gamer flagship, people felt compelled to go through the grinding and loved it.

A game that actually had a decent AI being the core of the gameplay was Alien: Isolation, and it was simply a matter of presentation. At the start, the alien patrols around while you hide behind obvious places as usual while it is none the wiser, being distracted by noise and items you can use and forgetting you were there, but as the game progresses it begins to improve in it's searching skills, if you spend too much time in a certain kind of hideout, for example lockers, it will begin searching them, look under desks or stay in rooms it noticed you were in a lot, if you abuse a distraction device it will begin to ignore them, if you use a weapon against it it will slowly become resistant and charge right through and so on, and that made people have to plan the moments in which they had to use those abilities and stay on their toes, always facing the same enemy but fearing when exactly it would wise up and increase the difficulty.

People love to hear they are playing a hard game, they love to be told they are good, all you need to do is engage them throughout the whole experience.

>>89575742
>Where were you when Prequel died?

Don't scare me like that, OP.

>>89629970
You're welcome, I'm glad you like it.

>>89629618
I'm working on it! Well, not right now, I'm probably going to stream again. But I have someone editing some drafts.

>>89630027
I feel the same way about Dark Souls. I saw a really nice article years and years ago that criticized like 90% of games for being DDR reskins. A lot of the things we describe as "skill" are very rote tests of reaction time and memorization, in my opinion.

>>89630975
Jesus fucking christ, just finish the damn comic you alcoholic hack.

>>89630975
>I'm working on it!

Famous last words hue hue hue. I kid though, pls hurry. pls.

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>>89630975
Just go and finish your update

I don't know how many times you all have to be told that the only thing left on this update are things out of his control. He allocated an important piece of work to someone else and they still havent finished it eight months later. That's not to say that Kaz isn't at least partially to blame for that, but I mean christ it's been explained every six hours for the past two months

>>89631230
IF YOU CANNOT RECLAIM A PART OF YOUR PROJECT AND COMPLETE IT YOURSELF IN TWO FUCKING MONTHS

YOU HAVE FUCKING FAILED AT PROJECT MANAGEMENT, SPECTACULARLY, AND DESERVE TO BE YELLED AT EVERY SIX HOURS FOR THE REST OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE

>>89624151
It's still a more interesting comic than most, at least with the weird scribbly parts. I enjoyed those.

>>89624195
I don't understand? People keep saying this like it's awful or something.

>>89631518
Floraverse is a clusterfuck, the author is literally insane

nyyeeeeeEeeerrghhh I ffffuckin suck dickssssSSSS

>>89631459
that's true, but it just baffles me how every single thread multiple times a thread people show up who just

have no clue what's been happening or that Kazerad even talks to people or has any kind of public voice

>>89631042
Just because I feel a bit more eager to share when I do drink doesn't mean I'm doing it all the time
>>89631459
It's true that I let this get out of hand, but it was more than just depending one someone else. Doing the merchandise project took out a lot of time as well

>>89631230
>only thing left on this update are things out of his control
Bullshit. If he can take the part that is missing and give it to someone else, he absolutely has control of the situation. Thats what making this delayed update so infuriating.

>>89631614
Guess I'm just crazy enough to understand it.

>>89631762
Reeeeeeeeeeee

>>89631756
Well most people know about only what shows up at their RSS.

Also Kazerad is streaming

Kaz if this update isn't out by the end of February I'm just fucking done

I've been patient and hopeful and optimistic for a very long time but this is just disgusting and disgraceful

>>89631872
god dammit how long has he been streaming for

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Look at this 'zard.

>>89631230
>I don't know how many times you all have to be told that the only thing left on this update are things out of his control

Didn't he write an entire wall of text about how virtually nothing is ever out of your control, and how anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong, lying, and/or has an ulterior motive for ensuring you remain powerless?

>>89631762
The merchandise should have taken a month tops, if you'd actually intended on doing it in any meaningful length of time it would have taken you a couple weeks. You let it take the better part of a year.

>>89634336
>le strawman

>>89634761
Not Kaz, but it does take several months sometimes to get big shit like that ordered and sorted out. The shipping part took way too long I'll agree there.

>>89634761
>>89635154
It's fairly common the first time, as there is a lot of shit you aren't aware of
After that though you got no excuse.

>>89607478
>mainly your tumblr posts from back in the day. Wish you'd made more of them.

This. I like the comic, but your essays (especially "Anonymous Together") are the thing I wind up showing people. Please write more, especially if you're not updating Prequel.

>>89587160
A lot of it is truth. A lot of it is speculative fiction. A great chunk of the latter bit is Kirkbride fanfiction.

Most of the fine detail up till the bit with the Dragonborn is debatable -- like Nirn being to help Lorkhan acheive CHIM -- but the general lore is sound.

So I get why kazerad isn't working on this update, but why not the one after? It's no secret that this thing is on rails at least 80% of the time, and not all of the update needs to be finished before this one launches.

Why are people so autistic about this comic. Webcomics die all the time. It's no big deal, move on.

>>89637490
Personally I care because it felt like the amount of thought put into the writing massively outweighed most other comics out there.
The jokes work because he doesn't just write it down, he makes sure it's exceuted as well as it can be.

Kazared, what have you been DOING the past year

>>89637490
Don't mean to jerk off Kaz, but its actually a great webcomic. And he actually talks to his fans/appears to take criticism well.

>>89637490
But I like this webcomic, it's well written and has excellent production value.

I don't care so much when middling webcomics die.

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>>89597336
this

>>89637490
>Why are people so autistic about this comic

Because it's tailor-made to attract autists?

>fanfic based on popular vidya
>Homestuck aesthetics/format
>waifubait: the protagonist
>games and contests, complete with prizes

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>>89637914
That's 400 scratched into the wall. It's been 461 days since the last update or 553 since the last real update. This was supposed to be humorous, how did this happen

>>89635564
I just spent the last few hours reading some of his essays

There's a lot of good shit in there

>>89638884
I remember when I binged through all of his tumblr I made a script to sort the entire thing in chronological order and improve formating. I can get it up on a pastebin if you want it.

>>89638451
life imitates art

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>>89638451
Yup

It just gets worse and worse

I'm sorry but you guys should always remember e golden rule of webcomics: most of them will never finish. The updates slow until the train runs out of steam. Sometimes they quickly rush out an ending to shut people up.

Sure this was a particularly fun and loose comic at times but it was still posted on the web. I'm so sorry.

Update when?

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>>89638884
>>89635564
>This. I like the comic, but your essays (especially "Anonymous Together") are the thing I wind up showing people. Please write more, especially if you're not updating Prequel.

I've drafted some more stuff but I don't want to post anything until the update is out. I broke this goal a few times (christmas, the election results), but not with anything particularly long.

>>89634336
Yeah, I don't think anyone is denying that it is a very, very bad idea to make anything so complex you cannot work on it solo. I have learned a valuable lesson about not doing that exact thing that I did.

Pic unrelated. I did a very long drunkstream while waiting on some stuff, and it descended into fanfiction reading. I illustrated an Elder Scrolls fanfic while someone read it.

This khajiit was very emotional about the sunrise.

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>>89645577
This khajiit was very emotional about some ruins.

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>>89645596
The khajiit were lovers.

>>89645577
>>89645588
>>89645596
This anon is getting very emotional about these emotional fanfic fanarts

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>>89645602

UPDATE WHEN KAZ?!!!

>>89645577
>I have learned a valuable lesson

Prove it.

Quit wasting time doodling in bars and shooting the breeze with every Anon who happens to mention you in passing and get to work on your comic, and don't show your lazy ass around here again until you've done the next three updates at least.

>>89646011
Oi fuck off, I want Kazerad in the threads once(if) the update arrives.

update when

>>89646011
I find it very useful and motivating to read anons comments in these threads. Nothing like having eyes on you to get you moving

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>>89647568

>>89647840
Man, I always miss Kazerad's streams, I was only ever there for like 1.5, even if I did play his patrician games.

>>89647909

just subscribe and picarto will send you emails if you're that interested.

>>89647944
Kazerad doesn't usually stream at euro-friendly times anyway, you see.
The one time I caught it was when he stayed up all night.

Wait
Kaz does streams?

>>89649010
yeah and he gets drunk

>>89639882
Doooo eeeett

>>89649919
http://pastebin.com/DquqXpqm enjoy.
It's not some marvel of software engineering but it gets the job done

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>>89649010
Yes, they involve him getting drunk at a bar and drawing with crayon at said bar, mostly.

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>>89651952

>>89651952
Wait does he just get a random bystander to hold the phone or what

>>89652441
He pays them in lewd catgirls

>>89652441
No, Katia is there to help him.

He uses a holder that clamps to the table

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Kaz, buddy. I know you probably aren't going to take me seriously in the least when I suggest this, but maybe you should just cut this update loose. It's been over a goddamn year. Throw it out and start fresh. Do something simple.Set a small goal like three panels and dialogue. At this point, the only way you're over going to put out anything new is to dump the dead weight that's been holding you back. People might be disappointed initially, but if you can come back and put out regular, smaller updates, people will forgive you and eventually, the year and a half without an update will become something that people laugh about.

>>89652680
No, he needs to get over this bullshit perfectionism and stop rewriting 5% of the update over and over and over, and actually RELEASE THE UPDATE

>>89652915
>"Keep finding new 5%s"

Update is never coming, Kaz is going to be trapped in that nightmare forever, I've given up hope

It's dead

It's dead

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>>89651952
What? Like, in public?

Has anyone ever looked over his shoulder or otherwise saw the lewd catgirls he was drawing?

>>89654242
Yes and yes.

Kaz gives no fucks.

>>89654242
It's happened on multiple occasions.

Some of them ask for napkin art

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If this dude spend as much time working on the comic as he does coming here to get his dick sucked, you'd be getting updates every day.

/co/ is in an abusive relationship with an idiot, and while some of the things he did were quite cool, there's a point where, years ago, 4ch was able to say "fuck off" to anyone. But seems like the new crowd just likes sucking dicks and will jump at any opportunity to greet someone at least a little "known". With /a/ going crazy over a guy from TRIGGER, and /co/ jumping on Kazerad's dick for two years now.

Maybe if you people stopped giving him attention, he'd fuck off somewhere else and really did spend the time working. You got shilled hard buying his merch, since he promised "with this money I can do constant updates for a year", just to get nothing out of it except a ton of excuses.

>>89654932
Don't be so melodramatic you fuck

/co/ gets pretty regular visits from webcomic authors.

I agree that Kaz needs to get all his shit together, but it's not like he's some evil mastermind.

>>89655085
No one is an evil mastermind, stop reading Marvel/DC. There are just people who fuck up more often than others.

And while some other authors came over, they never did so to get their dicks sucked. They still worked on their shit, they usually stayed anonymous here. Hirsch, Ronnie, Katie etc. - they all visited /co/, but they never really ran around wanting people to know its them just so everyone could praise them on their shit. 4ch was for anonymous opinions, so they had anonymous opinions about their comics with full honesty, since no one knew if the author was reading this shit..

Kaz instead wants anonymous praise, since everyone knows its him, so he comes here for some dick sucking or to /trash/ where he belongs with every other furry shit.

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Hey a Prequel thread. I saw it yesterday and kept meaning to pop in, but I was too drunk. I got free time right now though if you guys want some SKETCH REQUESTS of things. Go ahead and drop suggestions and I'll do a couple.

>>89655248
Draw me some trash panda!

>>89655248
Draw slavcat.