/DOAG/ Dumbing of Age General

>coalburner can't figure out why people don't like her
When will they learn?

>>89568334
Is Walky actually African American?

>>89568441
not as much as his sister

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This is definitely a healthy relationship

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>>89568247
I'm at least glad that we're on track to deal with this issue, I was wondering how long we'd be getting the run around.

It has been just over 2 years without much movement on the issue...

>>89568441
Biracial.

>>89568247
Also, I guess we know why she hadn't sobered up yet, so he could use the gag of being sobered up by shocking news. The boozles were getting smaller so I guess she was almost done being buzzed anyway.

>>89568441

He's a quarter black.

But like >>89568479 said, he's not as black as his identical twin sister.

That might seem confusing but don't worry, it's actually very simple: Walky is whiter because he's more naturally intelligent and well-behaved, while she's blacker because she's crass, unintelligent, inclined to criminal activity, etc.

What? You think that's RACIST? No, see, it can't be. Willis is a paragon of progressivism. You're probably just transphobic.

>>89568441
He's an octoroon.

>>89571289
Not quite. He is a quarter black. His mom is white, and his dad is half-black.

>>89570062
>not good at math
>hair becomes more black

you racist mother fucker

>>89570062
So when Walky fails the entire course is he going to have a big-ass afro?
Because I honestly couldn't tell he was black until somebody mentioned it in one of these threads.

>>89570062
>Becky's chin
>Becky's hair
Did Carol murder Becky and dye her hair so she could make sure Joyce was staying godly in college?

>>89572848
No, he just skips. He last pretended to have to go to the bathroom, then ran as far away from the building as possible before looping back around to catch the end of the class as everybody was leaving.

He did not go anywhere specific, mind you. He just ran blindly in one or more directions until he had to start running back the other way.

>>89572848
I just want a blackification arc.

>>89572895
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Willis would be pleased with himself for being SO clever.

>>89576437
Carla has friends?

>>89576753
isn't she friends with deaf lesbo and fat flip?

>>89570062
fuck i stared at the last couple panels too long and now i can't unsee the eyes as a pair of some sort of melting slime monstrosities

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>>89576813
Mute, not deaf.
Which one are you calling fat?

They don't seem to like her very much.

>>89568441
he's mixed race
that's why he told dorothy that he's not half the person she is

>>89576937
This comic always bothered me. Who the hell buys a six pack of shitty beer to split with four people? What's the point?

>>89577032
Poor college students?

I'm more concerned about Sal's eye.

>>89577032
Carla's the only one with a useable id, and it's not like she's a millionaire, or that they could pool their money together and give it to her to buy more.

perfectly logical

>>89577127
>it's not like she's a millionaire
Eh, she kinda is.

>>89578734
Pretty sure that post was entirely sarcastic.

My guess is that Willis didn't decide she was a millionaire until the Mary/Carla arc.

>>89578940
>>89577127
Oops, my bad. That's what I get for only half-paying attention.

It *is* really weird, especially since two fours aren't expensive with any sort of split.

>>89579175
Willis bends the laws of reality to whatever he needs. Those are the most expensive crappy beers, obviously.

>>89576937

Goddamn, Willy drew this, stepped back, took a cursory look and thought "Yeah, Sal doesn't look insanely retarded in the last panel"

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>>89568334
>mostly white
>coalburning

>>89570062
Just how black would Walky get if he actually failed the class?

>>89580938
He would rob a convenience store.

>>89580938
He'd turn into Shaft-Walky and DOA would finally stop sucking.

>>89568247
"math". Is he in grade school?

>>89581961
Not entirely sure what's wrong with the word "math."

I mean, I can think of better ways to word the sentence overall. "I'm probably flunking my math class" is one that stands out.

He is most likely in a generic math class that everyone has to take in order to get their gen eds out of the way. It's probably not a specific type of math, like algebra or calculus.

>>89582025
>He is most likely in a generic math class that everyone has to take in order to get their gen eds out of the way.
I really don't understand how American university works. You have to study general subjects other than your chosen field? Even at university level?

>>89582481
have them up here in canada too. You have to take elective courses unrelated to your program, and I think in Uni you also take general education courses like philosophy and shit, even if you're a comp sci major.

>>89582481
>You have to study general subjects other than your chosen field? Even at university level?

Yes. It makes more sense when you realize the entire industry is a scam.

>>89582481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_education

>>89582789
Mostly the textbook part.

>>89582724
>>89582789
>>89582853
Fuck me. I'd have never gone to University if it meant having to study shit I had no interest in or intention to pursue as a career. Especially not fucking maths. Today I am glad to be a Britbong.

>>89582955
I'm in Radio

Last semester, I had to take an entire course called 'interpersonal and group dynamics', the content of which was essentially a full term of 'don't be a dick and pay attention to what your teammates have to say'.

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>>89582025
You want him to say "I'm probably flunking *maths*, pip pip cheerio!" And then Dorothy's shock makes sense because she has just found out thatd Walky was british (english?) all along.

Also, Walky is taking tougher math than he has to because he's over confident.

>>89582481
When I went in America's hat, we had courses split in 3 areas, Science, Humanities (art n languages) and Social Sciences (basically non-physical science. To graduate you had to have one full credit of each at the freshman level as part of a breadth requirement. I think it's some small proportion making sure you have some sort of balanced education, and the other half of giving freshmen who change their major some sort of idea of what other courses are like.

>>89583238
>Also, Walky is taking tougher math than he has to because he's over confident.
Don't ask me how that's the same math Joyce, Billie, Sal and Mike need, though.

>>89583238
>I think it's some small proportion making sure you have some sort of balanced education
In the UK that's kinda the point of our GCSEs and A-levels which we do before uni. Even then, while you have to do certain subjects for GSCE (English, maths, a foreign language and science) you can still choose what A-levels to do so you don't have to waste your time with advanced mathematics the average person will never use. Uni courses here, to my knowledge, solely focus on whatever you've chosen to study. No extra-curricular shit required.

>>89582481
We have a thing called "general education." You're expected to study a variety of things in addition to your major and minor. Hence why it's a "major" and not a sole type of study.

Gen eds generally include history, math, science, writing, and miscellaneous other things like philosophy and sociology. You can (mostly) choose what kind you do in each category, so it's custom to your interests, to some extent.

So like, there are two primary gen ed history classes at the college I went to. One is world history prior to 1560 (I think), and the other is world history after that year.

You have to take two science classes, at least one of which has to have a lab portion. You can pick stuff like geology, astronomy, chemistry, and so on.

They basically want to give people a broader type of education that helps you to be less stupid and ignorant as a human being. Plus, if you're undeclared or are unhappy with your current major, then you might find a major that interests you when you're taking your gen eds.

Taking these classes should help broaden your horizons and things like that. The writing classes are easily the most useful ones, because they help you do your work for your other classes.

The problem with the system is that no one actually wants to take these classes, so they don't care and don't try. Most people phone it in. I personally liked my gen eds, but I'm a big old nerd.

Why are we wasting time with this Walky bullshit when we should be seeing Ethan putting Danny on all fours and ravaging his twink ass.

>>89583832
I have a feeling that Ethan is a bottom, unfortunately.

>>89582025
here;s uconns.
http://catalog.uconn.edu/MATH/#1131Q

essentially the department is Math.
No class is actually called that.
Actual classes are, statistics, precalc, calc, business eco, etc.

>>89583920
Danny's a cute subby boi. Ethan will be driven to top him.

I want Ethan to tie up and blindfold Danny, and then call Amber up and have her listen to him fucking her ex. And then she starts guiltily masturbating to it.

>>89584181
And then Amber kills herself because she's worthless sub-human garbage, and life goes on all the merrier.

>>89584000
Where I went, the base math class was literally "General Mathematics."

The slightly more difficult one was "College Algebra."

http://www.math.indiana.edu/undergraduate/courses.phtml

Here's the most likely option from IU.
The first one that actually counts as credit toward a degree:
>MATH-M 106 The Mathematics of Decision and Beauty (3 cr.) CASE MM, CASE N&M P: Two years of high school algebra or M014. Mathematics of art (symmetry and perspective), music (scales, tuning and rhythm), and decision-making (voting systems, game theory, graph theory). Emphasis on conceptual and geometric modes of mathematical reasoning, with group- and activity-based learning in a smaller class format.

Note that it says "a smaller class format," which is not the case.

Almost all of the other classes either (1.) don't count for any degree requirement or (2.) have prerequisites of other classes or (3.) are only for specific people (something called "Groups" for many of them).

If I had a class called "The Mathematics of Decision and Beauty," I'd just call it "math" too.


We also have Math-D 116/117:

MATH-D 116 Introduction to Finite Mathematics I (2 cr.) P: Two years of high school algebra or M014 or M018. D116-D117 is a two-course sequence that satisfies the College of Arts and Sciences Foundations Requirement in Mathematical Modeling and counts toward the College Natural and Mathematical Sciences Breadth of Inquiry requirement. Topics for the course are taken from M118. Credit for the Foundations requirement in Mathematical Modeling or the N&M Breadth of Inquiry requirement will be given only upon completion of both D116 and D117 with a passing grade. Credit given for only one of the following: the sequence D116-D117, M118, A118, V118, or S118.

More in next post to show how little research Willis did.

>>89585082
The 117 class description is a slightly shorter version of the one for 116.

>MATH-M 118 Finite Mathematics: Two years of high school algebra or M014 or M018. Sets, counting, basic probability, including random variables and expected values. Linear systems, matrices, linear programming, and applications. Credit given for only one of M118, V118, S118, the sequence D116-D117, or A118.

>MATH-S 118 Honors Finite Mathematics: Mastery of two years of high school algebra. Designed for students of outstanding ability in mathematics. Covers all material of M118 and additional topics from statistics and game theory. Computers may be used in this course, but no previous experience is assumed. I Sem.

>MATH-V 118 Finite Mathematics with Applications: Two years of high school algebra or M014. Sets, counting, basic probability, linear modelling, and other discrete topics. Applications to various areas depending on topic. Possibilities include social and biological sciences and consumer mathematics. Credit given for only one of A118, M118, S118, V118, or the sequence D116-D117.

>MATH-M 119 Brief Survey of Calculus I: Two years of high school algebra or M014. Introduction to calculus. Primarily for students from business and the social sciences. A student may receive credit for only one of the following: M119, V119, M211, S211, or J113. I Sem., II Sem., SS.

>MATH-V 119 Applied Brief Calculus I: Two years of high school algebra or M014. Introduction to calculus. Primarily for students from the life sciences. A student may receive credit for only one of the following: M119, V119, M211, S211, or J113.

These are the classes not intended for specific majors or groups.

I can't really pinpoint which class Walky would be in. If he and Sal are in the same class, we can assume he's not in the honors version. They most likely wouldn't put Sal in the honors class.

So my guess is either the 116/117 set or 118. They both seem relatively basic without being remedial.

>>89584181
Yeah, I gotta say that Danny is even more submissive and wimpy than Ethan is.

>>89586092
And Ethan is a bundle of sexual repression, so he can talk Danny into whatever he wants for a long time. Not like Danny will go anywhere. Ethan could convince him to keep a plug inside him all day and he'd go for it.

>>89583238

Still have no real idea what Billie is saying here.

>>89586975
She's comparing Sarah avoiding the harder math that she didn't need for her major to Sarah taking the easy route of getting rid of Dana by calling her parents because she didn't need her around. It's a huge reach to make the comparison.

It's like if someone was struggling to pay alimony to their ex-wife, and then later saw them on an IV drip in hospital and said, "I see you're slowly and steadily draining everything out of another bag of salt water until all that's left is shriveled husk, you bitch!"

God I can't wait for Amber to kill herself.

People like her are disgusting. Every one of them should just fucking die and stop burdening people with their existence.

If you relate to Amber in any capacity I hope you know that every horrible thing you tell yourself is true and that everyone is better off without you.

>>89586092
>>89586278
Danny isn't really submissive, he just attaches himself to others. Even if he was super submissive it wouldn't preclude him from topping, just from the stereotypical power dynamics of topping.

>>89587334
What does Billie even know about Sarah's history with Dana?

>>89587639
>What does Billie even know about Sarah's history with Dana?
She was there with Joyce and Dina when Sarah shared the story.

>>89587690
So wouldn't she have Sarah's version instead of Raidah's version where Sarah is the bad guy?

>>89570929
>>89568441
huh, i thought he was a pajeet

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>>89587729
Yeah, but since they don't get along, she chose to interpret it as Sarah just trying to get rid of people who inconvenience her.

>>89587878
Sarah needs to beat the shit out of Billie more often.

>>89587878
>>89583238
What a fucking bitch Billie is.

>>89587878
>>89588123
It gets particularly worse when you re--read the roofie bit, and find that Sarah was advocating just for going to the police, not specifically getting her parents involved. I'd assume that Joyce is probably 18 meaning that any parental contact would be somewhat at her discretion.

>>89587878
>thanks for having a sensible idea, you fucking bitch.
>how dare you try to help people you barely know by involving people that probably know them better, you heartless cunt.
>maybe next time you'll do the sensible thing and push them out of the backseat of a car rolling through the ER like a normal person, you heartless whore.

>>89589477
You'd think that, but Willis treats this college as if it treats their students as high-schoolers. Billie was flipping out because apparently Ruth losing her job meant that her grandfather would have to be informed. Or something like that.

I wonder if that's why Willis felt it was necessary to show that Billie's emergency contact was Walky. Maybe he thinks that it would be her parents by default.

Also, I got a DMCA warning for posting to /aco/. Looks like Slipshine may or may not be cracking down on reposting DoA porn.

>>89589785
Ruth losing her RA position would mean losing her room and stipend. It's not a stretch to think that Ruth would have to leave college, especially with the housing markets in college towns, but it'd be entirely possible for her to find other accommodations. Of course, when you consider that Ruth is a friendless drunk it's not hard to imagine that she'd have nowhere to go.

>>89589785
>Billie was flipping out because apparently Ruth losing her job meant that her grandfather would have to be informed.
Billie specifically says to Carla that Ruth's home is not safe. There have been a few other hints toward that, but they're few and far between.

Ruth's grandfather is horrible and mean or something. And if she loses her job, she can't afford school. And if she can't afford school, she goes home to live with Big Bad Grandpa.

>Willis's Parental Issues: Generation 0 Edition

>>89589893
That's true, but I doubt it would be as drastic as that. I'm sure universities have some kind of contingency where they'll help ousted RAs to a new place.

At the very worst, she'd be moving to a new dorm entirely.

>>89589910
It REALLY might have helped if we had more than two strips that explained how Ruth's home life is TURRBL and ABOOSIF. Like, the most I can say about Ruth's home situation is "Oh, no, she has to call her grandfather 'Sir'. No wonder she's suicidal."

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Meanwhile, this is the closest we have to a new preview panel.
I'm not sure if this means that we won't be seeing Robin leaving Leslie's house until, like, the end of April.

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>>89590086
Also on Twitter: Willis' high-school senior-year yearbook photo.

How dapper.

>>89590102
Wow. What happened to him?

>>89590130
Went to college, dropped out, wrote and drew a webcomic, and never let go of his staple cast of characters to the point that they eventually became representations of himself and his personality and psyche.

>>89589910
There haven't been any hints that Ruth's home isn't safe, just that she doesn't have a good relationship with her grandpa. And losing her job shouldn't mean that she wouldn't be able to afford school; they're a month into the semester, she should have already paid her tuition.

>>89590130
Weight gain. He carries weight in his face which distorts his features and gives him that weird babyfaced look. Going by this picture he'd look pretty good if he were thinner.

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I guess this is supposed to be touching? Cute?

I mean, maybe it is if you don't find Dorothy's character grating? I wouldn't know.

>>89590779
Christ, Dorothy, this isn't about you.

>>89590779
Nice moment, poor lead-in since Dorothy's current problem is that she's upset she's not perfect.

>>89590779
This is stupid.

Mostly because Walky blurting out that he was flunking math was as forced as a fiberless BM.

>>89583832
>>89584181
Danny's an actual retard who thinks appropriate socialization includes sneaking up behind your ex, saying "mmmmmmmM-MAGIKARP, YOU WANTED ONE, OVER THERE" and then running off like he has to shit or something. Ethan deserves better

>>89584563
Amber is precious and should be protected, go retroactively abort yourself

Turns out the password to last night's strip was "terribly", a word that isn't even IN the comic in question.

The hell is up with that?

>>89591059
It's okay, anon; I too like chunky, mentally unstable girls with severe daddy issues.

>>89591069
He's becoming self-aware.

Do we have quality writing and more than 4 respectable characters in our future?

>>89570929
She's his twin, but they aren't identical because they're male and female.

Yes I'm legitimately autistic.

>>89590904

To be fair it's something I might have done.

Sometimes it eats you up to keep something from someone you love. Hell, I've done relatively small things that I could have gotten away with forever without telling my SO, only to tell her because I didn't care to hold it in.

Not that the comic is better for that somewhat-realism.

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Hey honey, I'm drawing porn again instead of fucking you. Can you tell me what sex is like so I can draw Walky and Dorothy fucking?
>*getting fucked by a normal, well-adjusted adult that doesn't collect Transformers* It's a lot like, uhhhhhh
>WWE, yeah, just draw them like they're doing WWE moves and shut up

>>89577032

bear costs money shit for brains

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>>89591444
>bear costs money shit for brains
>bear
The last comic with bears that I read showed that you can just piledrive 'em and take 'em home

>>89577032
Not that anon, but it kinda irked me too. Not just the 6 beers/4 people deal, but how in the hell are they getting away with drinking in a Wally World parking lot? Do cops just avoid Wal Mart or something?

>>89591424
What if we've got it all wrong as Willis is just a sheltered, ignorant man who remained a virgin until his 30s and it's his wife who is this weirdo about sex who keeps forcing him into painful awkward positions for her own amusement, knowing that he doesn't know any better?

>>89591579
>50 Shades of Willis

>>89590904
>>89591352
This. You tell it to them in their moment of weakness. That way you look a lot less fucked than if they were fine. He played it the right way. If her reaction is supportive she forgets about her bullshit for awhile and he gets help. If she flips on him he just slaps her with a few 'what about what you were just talking about's' and sends her back to how he found her. Too easy lads.

>>89591559
Wal-Mart parking lots are usually big enough that if they're at the opposite end no one would really notice. Still doesn't explain how four people only managed to have less than $10 between them. Hell, they could have grabbed a small bottle of shitty vodka from a liquor store for roughly the same amount.

>>89590779
How could him not going to class be a secret? Aren't his sister and Joyce in the class? "I was there, you just didn't see me" only works like, once.

>>89590779
How many days have passed since the first time we saw him skip? I wasn't aware it was that frequent yet

>>89590779
She's not fucking perfect.
She's fucking Walky!

BA-ZING!

>>89591424
oh shit. DOTTY'S KILLING HIM. SHE'S GONNA SNAP HIS SPINE IN TWO

>>89591592

Only if they're all shades of brown

>>89591882
BAH GAWD! DOTTY'S GOT HIM IN THE REVERSE PENISBREAKER!

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New strip!

Trying out a new style, what do you guys think?

>>89592469
1st panel actually looks good.

The rest looks like trash as usual. Continue improving.

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>>89589974
>>89589893
>>89590532

>>89592562
Or she could just...get a job. Get a flat. Make something of her life and never turn back.

I mean that'd be pretty fucking hard but if her home is that abusive then fuck it.

Don't continue facilitating self destructive and dangerous behavior simply because the alternative is grim.

>>89589974
>At the very worst, she'd be moving to a new dorm entirely.
That's what usually happens. When an RA stops being an RA, they have to live in a dorm where they haven't worked. There's usually a dorm or two specifically for this purpose.

>>89590086
I could have drawn that in Paint.

>>89590102
Wonder what that mark on his forehead is.

>>89590779
For one thing, yelling at someone when they're scared to admit something is not how it works.

But the 4th panel resonated with me in a different way. My boyfriend is dyslexic, and I had to help him a lot with his writing for his schoolwork. "I'm stupid me, and you're perfect you" hit a sore spot because my boyfriend has said something similar. I try to be as loving and supportive of him as possible, and I immediately make sure anyone picking on him for his writing knows that it's not his freaking fault. His spelling isn't great, and he is still struggling with punctuation, but he tries. He's improved a lot just by being in proximity to me, because I'm a language nerd and can explain stuff to him.

But it hurts to think about. Because I know he has self-esteem issues and wish I could do more.

Also, Walky has monolithic teeth that do not break in the middle. I showed my sister, and she called them "horror teeth."

>>89591352
>Sometimes it eats you up to keep something from someone you love. Hell, I've done relatively small things that I could have gotten away with forever without telling my SO, only to tell her because I didn't care to hold it in.
Yeah, even when it's incredibly stupid, it feels better to tell them than to not.

>>89591678
True enough. Asked my boyfriend if he'd rather get awkward/uncomfortable/sad/bad news/information when he's in a good mood or a bad mood, and he said bad mood, because good moods only come around once in a while. Might as well enjoy them while they last.

>>89591753
I think it only happened once in-comic? I'm not sure if he's just not shown it or something. Maybe there was a time skip?

>>89591809
>How many days have passed since the first time we saw him skip? I wasn't aware it was that frequent yet
Same question I have.

>>89591852
>>89591444
Pfffft, okay, those made me smile for some reason.

>>89591991
No, they're all the same shade of brown.

>>89592637
Billie is not known for being smart.

>>89592889
How do you plan to identify those that are born after your initial purge. Your position has piqued my interest but I need to know your policies first. The only good idea is one with good execution.

>>89592889
>>89592935

No. What we need to do is PERFECT tranny technology. Then you'll be able to perfectly genderbend someone and they won't have any semblance of discrimination because no one will give a shit. "oh you used to be a boy? Who cares it takes like 5 hours to change. That's like bragging about getting a wisdom tooth removed"

>>89593161
When everyone is trans, no one will be.

>>89592469
Shading's nicer, the borderless word bubbles kinda blend in to the background.
Certain features are pretty unsettling, like her streaks of hair not following the contours of her hair, and her scissorhands

>>89592021
Setting him up for the dreaded Real Admiral!

>>89593161
That is an impossibility. The only way to do so would be to cease being human and generate some mutant with no genetic leaning to one or the other
>inb4 it's just genitals
>inb4 it's just hormones
>inb4 it's just brain structure
Men and women have differences at even a cellular level. Look into heart studies.

>>89593428
Implausible, yes. Impossible, no. We may be a way out but shit man. the stuff that we've achieved already with science is mind breaking. I can't even fathom what we'll be capable of in like...50 years.

>>89593498
>entire cellular rewrite
>keeping the integrity of the being intact
Literally impossible. You might as well just shoot them take a sample and make a gender swapped clone for all the good it does you. It would in effect be the same fucking thing.

>>89593518
Why would it even matter for them to be changed on a cellular level.
If it looked, sounded, and acted like a woman who really cares.

I don't think trans people are sad because they have masculine HEARTS or that their kidneys aren't feminine enough. As long as you made a way to aesthetically make them appear like the other gender no one'd really care.

>>89593563
Ah I see, you want to get to the core of the issue. Trans people AREN'T sad about saggy male hearts, no. They are sad because they have serious mental health disorder(s) that need to be addressed rather than enabled.
>no one'd really care
They still kill themselves at large rates, they seem to care and before you mention imperfect procedures to do gays. In places like America where even questioning the mental health of someone based on their sexual preference is taboo you'd imagine that if those figures were from external sources we'd have seen a drop or indeed an extinguishing of such behaviours. We do not.

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>>89593613
>before you mention imperfect procedures to do gays.

>>89593649
so do. As in, both trans and homosexual individuals display these symptoms. As in the procedures are not the source of the symptoms nor is their perfection the cure as homosexuals need no such procedure.
Hope that cleared things up. I wouldn't want a nitpick to get in the way for your legitimate response to my post.

>>89592469
Shit like always.

>>89593679
>In places like America where even questioning the mental health of someone based on their sexual preference is taboo
Onto this one, then. Not really sure where you're living if you think there are zero external pressures.

>>89582481
>I really don't understand how American university works

We get drunk and lose our virginities to the smell of pot and the sound of foghat

>>89593749
God Bless America

>>89593729
>zero
There's never such a thing as zero. It's negligable. Fat people aren't showing the same numbers, nor ugly people or blacks. It's not like certain people disliking an individual creates these results. How can you argue to that point?

>>89587376
>God I can't wait for Amber to kill herself.

DO colleges still give straight A's to the roommates of students who kill themselves

>>89593759

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCNcgoyG_0

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>>89593767
>certain people disliking an individual
>disliking
This usually goes down later in the night, why you up so early?

>>89593729
I don't mean to be that "guy" but I honestly have read this entire discussion and I can't follow anything your saying.

Is English your second language? Because your word choices and syntax is all over the place and at times indecipherable

I think you're arguing that fat people are fat due to genetics (?) and no outside factors contribute to being fat when it's pretty much all outside factors like personal responsibility and impulse control.

I'm not even OP but maybe...I dunno, run what you type through a program or something. I don't even know what you're arguing when it comes to trans stuff.

>>89593877
I don't know what you're on about. I don't post about this regularly.
Yes, dislike.
>oh boo hoo people hate me in a way that is SPECIAL
Yeah bro OKAY. Having massive support groups and media pouring out at you and people who risk being social pariahs if they dislike you is worse than the unilateral disengagement of someone who is legitimately ugly. Sure, and that also means that it isn't all a mental illness, yeah.
Care to refute with something that isn't a reaction image or do you have nothing left to say

>people who risk being social pariahs
Are you in like...the gayest part of San Fran? Because there's plenty enough people who say/do things against LGBT without social blowback. Or legal blowback, depending on where you are. In before 'THE CAKES"

>unilateral disengagement of someone who is legitimately ugly
You keep bringing this one up. Want to talk, sport?

>>89594215
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>>89594032

>>89594215
>personal attack someone how changes the logic of the argument
So that's a big old NO on actually refuting me then?
Fyi I am fat, not ugly but again, sure, pretend that ugly people or anyone else for that matter couldn't possible have it worse than you or your affiliates.

>>89568247
Wait wtf why isn't Walky with what's her face? Who the fuck is this slut?

>>89594383
anon that was 20 years ago
>>89594278
not the other guy, but both ugly people and trans people can both have legitimate troubles with their lives that don't invalidate each other.

Also I'm pretty sure the official treatment for being "trans" is reassignment surgery only if you live as the other sex for at least a year IE wearing the other sex's close and presenting yourself as the other sex to the outside world and IF you want the surgery

A lot of trans people don't ever get the surgery because of complications with sex drive or death from complication.

Also being ugly is pretty subjective while I'm pretty sure there's a set definition in science and psychology for "transgender" or whatever. Like, a person might find you hot FOR being fat while others find you ugly BECAUSE you're fat, I don't think that's a good comparison.

>>89594278
If you are arguing that LGBT are protected socially in a way that fat people/ugly people are not, my counterpoint is that this protection is not unilateral across (American) society, nor are legal protections unilateral. This ties into your argument that since social pressure is statistically negligible, the cause of suicide rates etc. stem primarily not from outside forces but via a co-morbidity of depression/suicidal impulses with homosexuality/transgenderedness. I counter that outside social/legal/economic pressures are still at a significant enough level that they cannot be discounted as a factor in suicide rates.

> pretend that ugly people or anyone else for that matter couldn't possible have it worse than you or your affiliates.
This, however, just seems like some standard fallacy of relative privation.

And the ugly thing is just because you've brought it up like three times now, for whatever reason.

>>89594436
So? What happened besides David becoming a worthless hack? (more so than he already was)

>>89594462
uh he rebooted and now all his characters go to the same college

>Walky has the same personality but he's dating Dorothy
>Joyce is still super christian and her plot line is a retread of IW
>Danny is bi
>Ethan is still gay and out but tried to go back in the closet because he didn't want to be known as the gay guy
>all of Ethan's plot lines revolve around him being gay ironically
>Amber still has daddy issues and dresses up like a superhero but now the superhero persona is treated like a separate personality ala Two Face
>Dina is alive and she's a lesbian and literally autistic
>if you remember Becky, she's a main character and now a lesbian
>Sal is the lesser liked of the Walkerton twins and she thinks it's because Walky is whiter than her
>Sal and Walky have the exact same skin tone
>Toedad got turned into a school shooter and Becky's dad
>UltraCar was now always a human but he's still "trans"
>There are no aliens
>Head Alien and Monkey Master are now just a cartoon treated as a background gag for the entire strip

Turn back now

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>>89594462
Alien drama is out; Lesbian drama is in!
Willis how dare you publish a chin that bad on your book's cover.

>>89594462
>Ruth is alive and an abusive lesbian who also is an alcoholic
>Billie never even met Danny, let alone marry him, now dates Ruth because she is also a lesbian

>>89594436
>not the other guy, but both ugly people and trans people can both have legitimate troubles with their lives that don't invalidate each other.
They do however, invalidate the idea that societal factors are causing the suicide rates as while both parties are subject to those pressures only one party displays the symptoms.

That is the currently perscribed treatment in some opinions. Please note however the the DSM plays to public opinions and by all rights homosexuality should still be in it (despite it having been removed) and as such it makes a poor frame of reference for legitimisation when you should instead be citing research or logic.

Quantifying trans and ugly is irrelevant. That arguement has literally no merit. Some people LIKE trannies and traps so you could argue it's not all that unlike ugliness in terms of expetions to the rule.

>>89594438
Well I wasn't but they are. Unilateral or otherwise they are given considerations that no other group is due to historical contexts and a modern victim complex. Further I've noticed that while we latch onto the ugly fat as analouges we shirk from mentioning another example I offered, blacks.
I don't imagine someone with your tone of opinions would argue that THEY weren't heavily beset with societal pressures, even now. As such why aren't their suicide rates the same as gays and trannies?
It IS NOT societal pressure. IT IS a result of mental illness. This is not a feel good discussion, I know, but it is the facts as they appear.

>>89594602
>That is the currently perscribed treatment in some opinions. Please note however the the DSM plays to public opinions and by all rights homosexuality should still be in it (despite it having been removed) and as such it makes a poor frame of reference for legitimisation when you should instead be citing research or logic.


So the DSM was right when they listed homosexuality as a mental illness but now that it's been revoked it's always been biased and easily swayed by public opinion? I mean if you consider homosexuality a mental illness, whatever more power to you but most doctor's don't and I hate to say it, but I'm gonna trust a doctor and a book that's peer reviewed every couple years over an opinion that's been discredited by most of the mental health world.

Also, you're arguing a point about homosexuality when we were talking about transgenderism which isn't the same thing

>>89594602
>>89594704
also, we don't know the suicide rate for ugly people because there is no study on how ugliness affects a person's mental health because (1) being ugly is subjective as what it encompasses and (2) being ugly is not a universal constant in a culture like being "gay" or "black" or "fat" is

but apparently being fat does up your likelihood of committing suicide
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090520064349.htm

Also, being a black kid ups your rate of suicide too
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2293169#poi150020r16

So yeah, thanks to some research, the things you cite as being unaffected by suicide rates actually are affected by outside factors and cultural pressure if you read the source cited

>>89594704
the definition of what should and shouldn't be a disorder is still ultimately unassailed. What does change is what the commitee votes for and argues. For example there was a big kerfuffle over OCD and surprise surprise the pervailing cause was someone on the council with OCD.
The reason for bringing up homosexuality is two fold. In this context it was to contextualise the use of the DSM (not unlike the example above). In other posts it has been the characterise sexual disorders and to highlight the similar symptoms and ideation between them. I am well aware of their distinctions.

>>89594773
>people comit suicide. It's a matter of degree. How about you compare those two rates with those we're discussing?

>>89594786
>>89594776
you're moving the goalpost, anon

you're not giving me any sources to read up on to see if you're right you're just spouting bullshit how my facts don't fit your narrative so you won't even argue with me

Again, I have to agree with the DSM over you because at least the DSM is peer reviewed and voted on by a board of medical professionals and you're just some anon on the internet.

You're not even providing me with any sources, you're just asking for me to take your word and that's not good enough

>>89594520
Do people still really think that Walky being "whiter" has anything to do with skintone? Has no one yet been able to piece together the simple fact that whiteness manifests in ways other than physically? Especially with how loud and blatant the comic's been about their differences (Sal's hair, for one thing, is a major sign of her "blackness" that Walky doesn't share) I just can't believe people still fall back on the "but they're the same skintone" argument. Smh

>>89594773
>Suicide is a leading cause of death among school-aged children younger than 12 years but little is known about the epidemiology of suicide in this age group.
Damn that's a dark study. I have a friend that was suicidal in grade school and this is still kind of surprising.

>>89594961
I was simplifying honestly

the hair thing Walky actually shares with Sal, when he gets stressed his hair frizzes like hers. For some reason that's canon

So through the writing, being "white" is getting good grades, not being a criminal, and being easier to raise according to Willis. That honestly is pretty awful, since being smart, a good citizen, and pleasant to be around being correlated with a person's skin color is pretty racist

And honestly, it could have been a swerve to build a story where Sal thinks her parents are more distant to her than Walky because of something petty like "being whiter" when she has deep seeded issues of feeling like a screw up over her criminal past and trouble learning. But Willis just came out and said that Walky and Sal's parents are ACTUALLY racist towards their daughter and the whole thing fell flat

>>89595031

If a Black / Asian man and a white woman can get married in the first place, It's extremely obvious that racism is NOT a problem they have. It would literally be impossible. They wouldn't be married in the FIRST PLACE if it were.

>>89595368
yeah, that's my main issue with it

But Willis is the literal word of god on this shitty story so they're racist even if it makes no sense

>>89592469

Your anatomy is horrific, your hands are god-awful, your linework is haphazard and inconsistent, your shading just looks like someone sharpied all over the characters' faces and clothes, your dialogue is stilted, laboured and unnatural, your premise is flawed, your comics aren't funny.

I think your comic is shit and that you're wasting your time shitting it out when you could be honing your craft. Go do some classes, like still life or something. Go and learn to actually draw real, solid objects and people, THEN use what you learn there to draw your cartoons. Learn to actually draw before you worry about and fuck around with "techniques". All I ever see is you trying new gimmicky touches with your work. It's cheap fucking short-cuts to try and make it look better. Go off and actually fucking improve.

Content-wise, what the fuck even is your comic anymore? You're just parroting DoA. There's no jokes about it, no points made about it. What's the point of this comic? What are you trying to achieve?

>>89595031
>the hair thing Walky actually shares with Sal, when he gets stressed his hair frizzes like hers. For some reason that's canon
This is because Willis is a bad writer who is racist. Even so, Sal's hair stayed kinky until she was able to get it straightened, Walky's hair reverted to straight right after because their hair is different, despite the shitty racist visual gag.

>>89590779
Walky's deal of being smart enough to blitz through school until you reach a level where studying is necessary and not having the tools to do that is fairly grounded and a lot of kids go through this at some point. Pairing this with Dorothy's shitty "everyone thinks I'm perfect and hates me because of it" is terrible.

I do like the last panel, though, because one of the things she likes about Walky is that he supports and believes in her but now that aspect could become a negative. I bet it won't though, Walky will give some speech about how ever since he saw her he knew she was perfect, and it'll make his opinion of her moot while making Dorothy lose her shit about how romantic he is.

>>89591059
She deserves to kill herself like all the worthless dogshit like her.

>>89592562

Man, "not safe" could mean anything to these people.

I'm happy imagining her grandfather as a stern but well-intentioned man who tries his best to push his grandkids to succeed despite one being a nerd and the other an alcoholic bitch and she doesn't like that he never let her drink.

Probably not. Still.

Addendum: I got a warning for posting pinups on /aco/. Hope I didn't make Willy sad

>>89593161

Nah, it'd still be enough to make my dick droop.

You can gussy it up pretty as anything but in the end when you pay for a diamond, you don't want a piece of glass.

>>89595031

>it could have been a swerve to build a story where Sal thinks her parents are more distant to her than Walky because of something petty like "being whiter" when she has deep seeded issues of feeling like a screw up over her criminal past and trouble learning.

He literally couldn't have done that.

I've argued with his fanbase before on the troubles with this whole aspect, and their reaction to such a plot would absolutely be as follows:

>If it turns out that Sal is wrong and assuming her parents are racist when it's just insecurity/misconception
>Then Willis is saying racism doesn't exist and isn't a real problem

Make no mistake: using this sensible and effective plotpoint would have resulted in the legendary, much-awaited catalyst for his fanbase to turn around and tear him to shreds.

>>89591753
He said he had to go to the bathroom and skipped out.

>>89591809
Only one, I believe. And if it's a MWF class, then the one class-skip is the only one we've actually seen.

>>89593518
>make a gender swapped clone
Perfect! Now neither of us will be virgins!

>>89596784
>Addendum: I got a warning for posting pinups on /aco/. Hope I didn't make Willy sad
Same here. I posted the latest pin-up.
I'm guessing somebody at Slipshine caught wind of the pin-ups being posted to /aco/ and sent DMCAs out.

>>89596958
>Make no mistake: using this sensible and effective plotpoint would have resulted in the legendary, much-awaited catalyst for his fanbase to turn around and tear him to shreds.

That would depend on a lot of other factors, but you'd think a storyline that says parents, one of which is biracial, are racists towards their daughter would raise a few hackles.

>>89598313
I would argue that this is an extremely hard storyline to do for characters that are around their parents constantly, as there is always a bias issue. Let alone some lilywhite asshole writing about characters set in a time after the effects that any parenting would have on them and away from home where they will never be seen.

I don't think the concept is unrealistic, I just think Willis has not done his work at all showing the discrimination. I don't even think he has shown the favouritism aspect, since a lot of people can point to her criminal history as being the reason her parents don't like her.

It really annoys me, because I think that kids fucking up like Sal is almost entirely on the parents, but I can't really point at where he has made that case successfully, or even partially.

>>89599739
Going around robbing convenience stores and taking hostages would point to a rather extreme level of neglect or emotional abuse or a very unstable personality on Sal's part. Everything we've seen about Sal's past indicates a somewhat strict, but not abnormal childhood. Even the audition thing doesn't really account for it as their mother picked the more outgoing and extroverted child to appear in the video, something the casting director would have done in the real world.

>>89599899

Yeah the audition wasn't really proof of anything.

Like, what, if she'd picked Sal instead would Walky have started robbing stores and shit?

>>89601300
>Walky is the "black twin"
>their personalities are still the same
>he robs the convenience store and takes Ethan hostage while wearing a homemade supervillain costume

It's funnier and explains why Amber's ongoing mental breakdown takes the form of a superhero persona.

>>89568247
Willis is guilty of kickstarter fraud. He set up some Transformers toy thing and never delivered, just took the money. Between him and Chris Onstad I think supporting nay project run by a webcomic artist suddenly became a bad idea, they're stealing money.

His best(rather, only) friend is also a /pol/ bigot. I think his SJW crap is fake, he wants to trick women into sleeping with him. He doesn't like banging his ugly fatass wife but she supports him.

>>89601938
also, he's a Hasbro fanboy, and Hasbro fans are basically the definition of mentally handicapped. These fuckers buy MLP solely because it has a Hasbro logo on the box. Watch them flip out over 3rd party unofficial Transformers which are better quality than the Hasbro versions.

>>89576937
a six pack in a box?

and you bring a sixer out for more than 1 person?

>>89602468
Bottom of the barrel vodka in my state runs eight dollars a liter. More than enough to get four people shitfaced.

>>89597083
>He said he had to go to the bathroom and skipped out.
Yeah, but like was said, using that excuse twice wouldn't work. His friends have eyes, and hour-long classes are long enough to glance at the room and see he isn't there.

>>89602579
Maybe they don't know enough about alcohol to realize there are better/cheaper/tastier options?

>>89592637
Speaking of which, why the HELL do only three of these blooters have jobs?
>Dorothy and Billie: School paper
>Becky: pizza place
All these shitters are unemployed time-wasters. How the hell can Sal afford gas, maintenance, and repairs for a motorcycle? (On top of that, how did she afford one in the first place while going to private school?)

>>89603656
sal got the motorcycle the same way she got a passing math grade: she's fucking the teacher

>>89603656

>How the hell can Sal afford gas, maintenance, and repairs for a motorcycle? (On top of that, how did she afford one in the first place while going to private school?)

Crime spree

>>89602641
We might have ended up with a time skip that wasn't clearly noted. Because we've only seen him do it once so far, but he's acting like it was more than once.

I wouldn't be surprised if he'd skipped before and that was just the first time we'd seen it in-comic. But you'd think people would be asking Walky what was up.

I think Willis treats characters like they don't exist when they're off-screen.

This feels especially true with whatever voodoo magic that Dorothy used to walk on campus, off campus, and back while drunk and not having any issues along the way.

>>89594462
Willis rebooted his characters, but became all about using them to push identity politics instead of actually humanizing them like before.

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>>89593729
yeah, it's okay to label someone crazy because of sexual preference, but believing in some ancient myth and a man in the clouds is considered mentally stable. Double standard, much? Considering the ones doing the labeling believe in the unproven bullshit.

>>89601938
>His best(rather, only) friend is also a /pol/ bigot.
Who's his friend?
not his lesbian swedish ex-gf, I assume

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>>89576937
Ah Christ! What's going on with her eye in the last panel!

Anyone else remember the Nightstar Zoo forums for It's Walky back in the day? Back then it felt like a real community.

>>89603656
They have just enough money from their parents to pay for everything and have never been forced to get a job

Why do you guys keep reading this comic? Just for the threads?

>>89606696
At this point, it's out of habit.

>>89606696
I'm unhealthily addicted to it.

Not in a "lol trainwreck" kind of way but that I literally cannot stop thinking about it and am sabotaging aspects of my life and wallowing in misery over it, and I can't grasp any control over myself anymore.

>>89595368
Racism isn't just wearing a white sheet, you know.

>>89606696
I legitimately liked Willy's old comics (from ~10 years ago) and still hold out hope that one day he'll hit himself on the head and become a decent writer again. That, plus the characters are nostalgic, but maybe that's not a good thing since Willy is pissing all over their old characterizations.

>>89594520
>>89594522
>>89594537
>>89605250
wow

why did he have to do this? What's his problem? I remember It's Walky being one of the first story driven web comics i read all the way though. Unpacked was a decent spinoff at the beginning but I hung it up after a few months after it got going.

>>89607262
Hard to say, really. He had a lot of unresolved issues with his fundamentalist upbringing and I guess he decided going full throttle on the politics and assholishness was the way to deal with them. It's really a shame, he used to be good at pacing and characterization but it all had to go out the window.