Why is Bruce Tim not directing and writing the DCEU movies?

>>89544214
For what? To push his ship on the big screen. Fuck that.

>>89544214
He's not that good. Nostalgia fans over rate his work.

>>89544329
Fuck you, the DCAU is one fucking grant masterpiece.

Mind you, Bruce Timm is not sole responsible.

If they want to unfuck the DCCU, they'll need he conjined power of both Bruce Timm and Paul Dini.

>>89544214
better question, why isn't Paul Dini

>>89544344
I can see it now, Josh Hutcherson will be cast as Dick Grayson and will spend the entire movie with penis envy. Anna Kendrick will be cast as Batgirl and have 4 sex scenes and call Battfleck daddy. Perfection.

/sarcasm

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>>89544329
>baiting this hard

>>89544559
This is why we need Paul Dini to hold back Bruce Timm.

>>89544605
>Paul Dini is assertive
Paul Dini is a great writer but assertive he's not. From what I've heard he's quick to back down while that no talent hack Timm is stupidly stubborn. I can just imagine Timm throwing a temper tantrum every time someone suggested any arc other than his ship arc on Killing Joke.

>>89544605
>This is why we need Paul Dini to hold back Bruce Timm.

too bad mcdufie is dead. There is also the GL animated producers and YJ producers. I think it could be a good team to lead DCEU

It's funny to see how /co/ turned on Timm after the TKJ movie.

>>89544641
It's more like a good % of his fanboys defected when they saw the garbage that was TKJ. Timm is a good writer don't get me wrong but he's overrated as fuck and his stories get more and more shallow.

>>89544641
Many turned on him long ago since he shills Batman hard especially in JLU hard and had him cuck Dick by taking away Barbara

>>89544621
>From what I've heard he's quick to back down while that no talent hack Timm is stupidly stubborn. I can just imagine Timm throwing a temper tantrum every time someone suggested any arc other than his ship arc on Killing Joke.
We have the whole DCAU to prove you wrong.

Bruce timm is great, but everyone has his default. His work he did with Dini on DCAU is the the proof they can do great work together.
>>89544641
TKJ is what happens when a creator forget they have to kill their lady, ironically enough.

>>89544641
He rights a stupid(literal) Batman and a emasculated Nightwing. That's it.

>>89544641
I think people are always a bit wary of him but were willing to see past his flaws and appreciate what he had brought to the table especially considering how he hadn't done anything since most of us were young.

Once TKJ came out though, they realized "No he really is just like that what the fuck?"

>>89544641
Most were starting to turn. TKJ was just the last straw.
Its amazing how ge turned a simple concept into shit.

>>89544663
Dick is for Starfire anyway.

>>89544605
Paul Dini is good, but he's also volatile and goes with the flow. For example, he can sing the praises of Harley/Ivy, then say he loves Joker/Harley, and piss of a whole horde of fans.

Timm is more consistent, even if you don't like what he ships.

>>89544687
>he can sing the praises of Harley/Ivy, then say he loves Joker/Harley,
You have to be one kind of block to think appreciating the two is mutually exclusive.

>>89544673
>We have the whole DCAU to prove you wrong.
Declining sales, negative reviews and still peddling n52. Sure man.

>Bruce timm is great, but everyone has his default. His work he did with Dini on DCAU is the the proof they can do great work together.
We can go around and around all day so let's agree to disagree, my cocaine high is wearing off and I'ma shoot some H and go to sleep.

>>89544699
You misunderstood what I wrote. I agree with you on that point.

What I meant is that Dini goes with what's popular at the moment and he most likely likes everything anyway without thinking about it too much. He's viewed as some LGBLOL rights champion for some reason, though, when he just tries to please everyone.

>>89544704
>Declining sales, negative reviews and still peddling n52.
The fuck are you talking about?

I am talking about the The DC Animated Universe, aka the TimmVerse, aka, Batman The animated Series, Superman the animated Series, the mask of Phantasm animated movie, the Mister Freeze animated movie, Batman Beyond, the rEturn of the Joker Animated Movie, the Justice Leaugue Seris, the Justice Leaugue unlimted Series.

Those are fucking masterpiece that did great, a whole coherent universe building and all of them came before n52. I don't know what you are on, but it's clear you have no fucking idea what the DCAUverse is.

>>89544730
>I don't know what you are on, but it's clear you have no fucking idea what the DCAUverse is.
Alot. Thought you meant the animated movies, that shits been on a quality decline for years. Timm wasn't the only one working on those either give credit where it's due.

>>89544753
>. Thought you meant the animated movies, that shits been on a quality decline for years
Also, Dini wasn't on those (I think). Hence why I say they should go back together.

>>89544753
Not everything animated is part of the DCAU.
The more you know

Methinks that something bad happened between Dini & Timm, I haven't seen those two working together since the Harley & Ivy mini back at 2004. Dini isn't even writing the Harley animated movie that Timm is doing

>>89544815
>Dini isn't even writing the Harley animated movie that Timm is doing
What's gonna happen in that movie ships-wise, I wonder.

Timm is autistic, at a fanficy level, he pushes his ships and shit in everything

DCAU was great, but deeper parts of it were not, Etrigan not rhyming, the shitty Batship he keeps pushing, ect ect

>>89544838
Bats and Harley, it's obvious.

>>89544844
Etrigan not rhyming was working within their limitations. A lot of writers can't make good rhymes or are unable to do so in a way that doesn't come across as silly.

>>89544859
>silly
DCAU was hardly dark enough that rhyming couldnt be done, i mean the show did everything else at high expectations but not that?

>>89544687
>he can sing the praises of Harley/Ivy, then say he loves Joker/Harley,

These aren't mutually exclusive, you know.

>>89544641
Reminds me of how /co/ reacted to David Goyer and Gail Simone. /co/ is very flavor of the month.

>>89544847
Does he ship it? He obviously is a BatBabsfag, he drew Joker x Harley porn and some suggestive Harley x Ivy.

>>89544641
Timm was always weird and fanficy, TKJ really was the nail on the coffin

plus hes a good artist, but he relaies on doing the same body for male and females in everything he used to do better

>>89544869

He meant that writing dialog with rhyming in mind is hard as it is, but making it also sound good in spoken dialog with the limits animation has without it sounding completely ridiculous is even harder unless you're a talented lyricist.

>>89544885
I'm going to through with what we know, and I can see him putting Bats and Harley. Timm without a leash is a dangerous thing

>>89544899
i cant really see it desu, the universe just did things at high expecations, it just doesnt seem right

>>89544753
>Timm work on something good
He wasn't the only one working on those, give credit where it's due.
>Timm work on something bad
Why is Timm such a hack?

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Dialy reminder that wihout Timm we haven't got Green Lantern: The Animated Series

>>89544329
Even if you weren't full of shit, anything Timm could crap out would be miles better than the utter garbage bin that has been the New 52 DC animated film universe.

They started with a turd in War and never recovered.

in b4 Jay asking questions

>>89544344
They're both hacks that managed to make semi-decent shows due to executive meddling.

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>>89544641

I love Timm and the man deserves any paycheck he can get but I absolutely question how the man who devoted his life to animation and released quality on the level of Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Mask of the Phantasm, etc. can put his name on a complete slap in the face to quality like Killing Joke.

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>>89546090
A lot of the problems with Killing Joke was in the direction and that wasn't Timm.

People freak out over the intro story but it's a necessary introduction that parallels the main plot and gives a lot of context to the ideas thrown around in Killing Joke. Batgirl sex somehow ruining the movie is a terrible meme on par with "muh censorship" on /v/.

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>>89544641
was killing joke really that bad?

i never saw it but it had high reviews on imdb i think

>>89546149
Bad animation, Azzarello's additions were controversial, and the voice director told Hamill to do the "why aren't you laughing" speech as angry instead of sad, which felt wrong.

>>89544214
>why is Paul Dini not writing DCEU movies?

FTFY

>>89546149
Timm added Bruce/Barbara relationship as the first third of the movie that had nothing to do with the Killing Joke.

>>89546173
>>89546182
Also the musical bit.

>>89544214
He knows his own limitations and isn't the executives bitch that Johns is

Timm and dini are still better than what they have now.

>>89546194
The musical bit was there in the original, I don't know how you can not look at that scene and not realize he's singing.

>>89544214
He and Paul Dini should have been in charge of the whole thing not zack snyder and certainly not johns

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>>89546149
No, it wasn't really that bad. It wasn't great, but it's nowhere near the shitshow that is something like War or Atlantis.

People are especially butthurt over a few things:
-There's a prologue of Batgirl vs Paris Franz that explains why she quits being Batgirl and sets up the major themes of Killing Joke
-In said prologue there is a flamboyant gay man and Barbara fucks Bruce and that made people angry
-The VA direction ruins the most iconic lines of the book

That's about it, really. The rest is just what you'd expect from a Killing Joke adaptation.

>>89544641
mind you most of his work is 10x better than the shit /co/ overrates like Bbatb or young justice

Hell TKJ is bad but even it is several leagues better than the shitty animated movies DC is making with the new 52 garbage

>>89546267
>TKJ is bad but even it is several leagues better than animated DC new 52

couldn't agree more

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>>89546267
>young justice
shit, overrated
>batb
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

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I think that all the shitty things he did don't out weight the good shit. I think the problem is that he just a fanboy and some time can't help himself from being bias at times. Still it's doesn't effect my overall opinion on his work. He still help make some of the best Batman(and Superman because the TAS is very underrated.) related media last 2 decades. I'd take a stupid love subplot/Characters getting nerfed at times, if it means we could have Batman, Superman and JL live action similar to the DCAU.

>>89546352
>>young justice
>shit, overrated

Stop this meme

>>89544214

He should have been the Kevin Feige of DC

>>89544329
This
Dwayne and Dini was better in every way

Didn't Bruce Timm get Batman to cuck superman with Lois? If he is then no thanks, superman is beta enough as it is.

Alan Burnett was the reason the writing and stories got as good as they did instead of the after-school dribble Sean Catherine Derek was peddling, yet Dini got all the credit because he wrote Heart of Ice.

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>>89544641
I can't say I've turned on him personally as much as his batting average has dropped in my eyes, but its still damn respectable.

I'll ALWAYS be interested in his projects but after KJ I won't be as excited as I used to be.

As for OP's question? He is a 'cartoon guy' in the eyes of WB and he just doesn't blip on their radar.

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>>89544214

>>89547029
Kinda. Clark and Lois aren't really a thing in the series. It's more like he used Bruce to make Superman understand where his feelings are with Lois. You see Timm is bias but he was never sloppy in his fanboyism. He knew how to have his cake ad eat it too. Something that worked with the plot and his own personal gratification.

Or at least he did until recently with the Killing Joke.

>>89544590
It's not bait. Dini and several other writers are the primary reason the DCAU was well-written.

Timm's got a nice aesthetic but he's an artist first.

>>89546249
Is that pic a Jojo reference?

The last good DCAU with a compelling story was flashpoint. Everything since then has been meh. Discuss.

Red Romance the animation when?

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>>89544214
Because BT's more of an artist than a writer

>>89544676
>He rights a stupid(literal) Batman and a emasculated Nightwing. That's it.
>He rights a stupid(literal) Batman and a emasculated Nightwing.
>He rights a stupid(literal) Batman
>He rights a stupid(literal)
>He rights
>rights

>>89544214
>Why is Paul Dini not directing and writing the DCEU movies?

ftfy

>>89544641
He made Dickbabs happen in the comics as well as tried to push Brucebabs, they're both shit ships that need to die

>>89544641
How they managed to fuck up TKJ is beyond me.

>>89551162
>right
Haha last time I type high.

>>89544214
Rumor is the WB higher ups don't want to be shown up by an animation guy.