Lads?

>>89508640
He's right. That's why we're all here.

>>89508640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR2Lq5Na3SM

>>89508640
Fake

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>>89508640
no, it's true. I have zero respect for myself.

>>89508640
God, I've never been more happy that I don't respect myself.

Respect, self or otherwise, died the day the Internet was born.

>>89508640
Sounds about right yeah.

>>89508640
Am i supposed to be mad?

>>89508640

>Self-respecting
>Adult

I have no horse in this race.

>>89508640
>watch superhero movies
Gotta agree, they're pretty cringe and are usually just circlejerking cock orgies for actors and producers alike.

>>89508640
The joke's on you! I haven't bought comics in years!

>>89508665
What "thing" is he referring to?

What pains me is that the writer seems to be implying that all comics are capeshit.

>>89508640
A self-respecting adult wouldn't be on that site, so I don't really care.

What should a self-respecting adult be doing in his/her free time, anyway?

>>89508640
For those who want a tl'dr of this, this paragraph basically sums it all up.

>My parents deserve some of the blame for this. Dad was not a fan of comic books. His view was that the second you hit puberty, you put them behind you and started reading John Updike – and you damn well stuck at it until you liked it. And you know what? He was right. The travails of Rabbit Angstrom are better than any comic.

>>89508640
As long as they aren't hurting anyone, who cares what other people do with their time and money?

>>89508640
I remember this.

>>89508911
Talking about football, hunting, and fixing some shit.

>>89508640
no self respecting adult would take life advice from a buzzfeed knockoff article

>>89508935
That really did save me time and more importantly, deprives this sadsack of more ad-click-bux. Thanks.

>>89508640

They probably shouldn't watch sports, fantasy/science fiction or adventure films, musicals, animation, comedies, or westerns either since those are also things children have enjoyed at some part in our nation's history.

>>89508984
Sounds boring.

>>89508837
They must be a /co/mrade.

>>89508911
Drink, listen to old music, pretend to be good with women, watch sports but, get bored and talk bad about people during the game, drink more, repeat.

>>89508935
The shit taste of the father is to be laid upon the children.

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>>89508935
>John Updike

>>89508640
WHEW! Thank god I stopped respecting myself years ago.

>>89508935
Shut up, Updike.

>>89508935

>Read good literature children
>Like John Updike

I just kind of feel sorry for this guy. Obviously his father had to remove the stick from his ass somehow, and the only way he could do that was by transplating all his tastebuds there.

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>>89508640
>self respecting

Breaking news. Another pretentious fucktard who is bitter that people like superheroes.

No self-respecting adult should tell other people what they should and shouldn't like

>>89508911
Making money so he can bang the most expensive women.

>>89508984
But football is soooo boring. Especially since it just boils down either the Patriots, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, or 49ers going up against some poor shlub team that manages to weasel their way in.

>>89508911
Reading John Updike apparently.

>>89508911
Ask Quentin.

>self respect
>it's actually just some judgemental fuck refusing to respect you
yaw.

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>>89508935
>don't like it
>stick with it until you like it

I'm all for trying every thing at least once, or 'giving something a chance', but this guy seems to think like reading something you have no interest in (and does not serve a purpose, like a job or schooling) is being an adult.

Isn't being an adult about pursuing your own interests?


also

>self respecting
>implying

and /tv/ do it again.

Don't you know
/co/ is dumb, dumb, dumb
They give (You) to anything that triggers (beginners!)

Who cares about self-respect were al going to die anyways

>>89508640
>26 march 2016
>The article is about how BvS looks terrible.
But he's not wrong...

>>89508640
wew

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>>89508640
>Self respecting adult
I've seen some self respecting adults do some asinine and childish shit. Forgive me if the word "Adult" doesn't mean anything like it used to, if there ever was any meaning to it in the first place.

I'm fairly mature, understand that my actions have consequences and aim to make myself a better person as well as make the world a better place for my children to live in once I'm gone.

Is that not enough, or do I have to be a boring person and follow the leader when it comes to adult entertainment too?

>John Updike
How about I read Jack London, he's a much better writer.

>>89508640
>people enjoying things I don't like
what an edgy faggot

>>89508640
Oh five fuck's sake. We're being baited, very, very hard. This is the article.

>Another month, another superhero movie staggers to the silver screen, lurching under the weight of its own self-importance, groaning with the expectations of fans, and burdened with a nine-figure marketing budget. I am, of course, talking about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, to give it its full, clunkingly portentous title.

>Can we all please grow up? Can we acknowledge that Marvel and DC have scraped right though the bottom of the barrel? Can we call time on superhero films? Films which are too dark for kids the comics were originally written for, yet too dumb for any thinking adult.

>Way back in 1989, I quite liked the first modern Batman film – and yet now I curse it. When it was released, it was genuinely interesting and different. A superhero film with highbrow-ish director, a dark feel and adult themes. It was a huge success and I don’t begrudge it that. The trouble is it spawned the superhero-filled-multiplex-hell we currently live in.

>So now, a quarter of a century later, having strip-mined the comic world down to the bedrock, we have the inevitable franchise crossovers. I’m sure the thinking that went into Bruce Wayne and Clarke Kent’s upcoming get-together was every bit as deep as “These are two really successful brands we’ve been milking for years and the audience is starting to notice that they’re a bit long in the tooth ... and, hey, it worked for Alien vs Predator”.

>Of course most of the superhero films aren’t actually crap in the way that The Last Airbender or Gigli were crap. Many of them are nicely shot and use A-list actors. They often have talented directors. They even get decent reviews (although the same cannot be said for Batman V Superman). And yet, an hour after watching the latest iteration of Superman/Batman/Iron Man/The Flash/The Green Lantern, I can barely remember anything about it.

>>89509471

I've re-read books a few times that I didn't get, and wanted to get, and then I did after a few reads.

but that was more because I wanted to understand it, not force myself to like it. hell I know at least two of those books were fucking masturbatory crap at this point. but you know, at the time I wanted to get it.

improving your reading skills is all well and good, but this opinion is shit anyway, my dad is one of the most hyper-masculine guys around, and yeah he hates cartoons as "childish crap" but he made me read comics, he collected comics, and got me into all kinds of obscure nerd culture shit when I was a kid. also he's collected toys since the 60s.

you aren't some nerdy wimp shit because you have interests. I mean, what purpose is there in building cars as a hobby? sure people see it as masculine, but it's a fandom like any other when you get into it, same goes for pro-sports, or even 'movie-buff" type guys.

>>89508640
Are they even intended for kids currently? I thought parents were turned off by all the violence and sex. I mean if this stuff actually is for kids, then great, but then why can't we also get that content in our cartoons?

>>89508640
>thinking man
Why should I listen to a cuck?

>>89509690
>The trouble is the source material. In the case of Batman and Superman, this was originally written for ten-year-old boys. A man who can fly with lasers in his eyes. A man who dresses as a bat dispensing justice to bad guys. It’s fun but it’s fundamentally very silly stuff; it has pre-teen built into its DNA.

>I know that the stock response to this is that there’s no reason you can’t use superheroes to examine dark, adult themes. No there is isn’t, but just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

>Let’s use a food analogy. It’s like making hamburger out of Wagu beef mixed with foie gras and then serving it in a toasted brioche bun and topping it with artisan cheddar, oak-cured bacon and hand-brined pickles. Sure, the end result will be good but it will be kind of “stupid-good,” the ultimate expression of something quite dumb. A cassoulet made with far cheaper ingredients would be a better, more sophisticated and more satisfying dish by almost any yardstick.

>In the 80s and 90s, people used to worry about “dumbing down”, where complex ideas in spheres like politics and literature were simplified in order to make them accessible to people who were unwilling or unable to deal with sophisticated thought (tellingly, the term originated in the film industry). These days, I’m more worried about dumbing up, where you take something that’s pretty stupid to begin with and then throw money and talent at it until it has a semblance of intelligence and sophistication.

>Does this really matter? The answer is that it doesn’t if your dumbed-up burger is just another dish on the menu. But it does matter if your local French and Italian joints have been shut down and replaced by an entire street of huge dumbed-up burger restaurants. It matters if you live in a town where the only dish on the menu is dumbed-up burgers. Now, ask yourself how many superhero films your local cinema is currently playing.

>>89509690
He is completely right

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>>89508640
>this year I'm leaving USA
>won't have time for comics or cartoons
>will be a self-respecting adult

>>89509729
>Of course, I know there’s a business case for it. I understand that big franchise films come with built in branding. I get that, if you went to see Iron Man, you may well go and see Iron Man 2 all the way through to Iron Man 47. I know these films do well in increasingly important markets like China because they're easy to dub (a total lack of nuance helps). I recognise that big explosions and stunning, yet somehow entirely predictable, CGI are a kind of lingua franca for cinema audiences the world over who don’t want to think very hard.

>In a way though, the cynical business case is the least of my gripes. Far more troubling is the widespread notion that somehow these films have something important to say. The thing is, like our dumbed up hamburger, they are limited, even crippled, by their form. God knows how many articles I’ve read saying, “Actually, Batman v Superman and Captain America: Civil War are about fascism and America’s love of authoritarianism.”

>Well, maybe they are. But I can think of dozens of better ways to examine the slow erosion of democratic institutions than two guys in tights prattling on about the kind of hero America needs.

>The obvious way is just better films. Films like Sicario and A Most Wanted Man which manage to say something interesting and thoughtful about the world in which which we live without recourse to bang-you-over-the-head expository dialogue set to music that tells you exactly how to feel – and all for a tenth of the budget.

>I’d also include South Park in this. Its 2015 skewering of Caitlyn Jenner was a thousand times more insightful than anything I’ve ever seen in a comic based film.

>>89509752
>I know that suggesting that comic characters might be stupid upsets plenty of people. Well, sod it, in for a penny, in for a pound ... I used to read 2000AD as a kid and I quite liked its epic, six-month-long storylines. But then I turned 14. And comics stopped doing it for me. Yes, even graphic novels. Even The Dark Knight Returns. I put them all in a big trunk and it went up in the loft and there it stayed.

>My parents deserve some of the blame for this. Dad was not a fan of comic books. His view was that the second you hit puberty, you put them behind you and started reading John Updike – and you damn well stuck at it until you liked it. And you know what? He was right. The travails of Rabbit Angstrom are better than any comic. They were better when I was 15 and they were a hell of a lot better by the time I was 25 – which is the median age of people who went to see The Avengers.

>And yes, I know Persepolis started as a graphic novel – and very good it is too. But it’s an exception to the general rule that if you need to shave, you should be reading books where you have to make the pictures in your own head. You can say this intellectual snobbery if you like, but you only have to go a little way down this road before you find yourself arguing that V for Vendetta is the equal of Lolita – and I’m afraid my artistic relativism doesn’t stretch that far, even if yours does.

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>>89509729
>>89509690
>capes are shit, folks!

>>89509771
>Of course, I can’t be reading all the time, so thank God for TV. While Hollywood seems content to feed us an endless conveyor belt of dumbed-up dirty burgers for the mind, TV outfits ranging from Netflix to Channel 4 have recognised that there’s a market for drama that doesn’t involve men in capes. Series like The Wire, Breaking Bad, Narcos and Deutschland 83 are the real heirs to all those great films from the 1970s like Taxi Driver and Apocalypse Now. They’re the popular culture people will remember in 30 years time, not some crossover film that started life as an Excel spreadsheet at a LA branding consultancy.

>As for Superman v Batman, I’m sure I’ll watch it on a plane sometime in the next 12 months. Probably one of those really long flights to Asia.

>>89508640
If I have a job and pay my bills and taxes, who gives a fuck what I do with my leftover cash and time?

>>89508640
What should I care about what anyone thinks of what I have an interest in?

It's the same with movies and TV shows, people say I should kill myself or be ashamed for having poor taste at liking certain ones, especially on 4chan. It's never bothered me before, it doesn't bother me now.

I know taste is a thing that a lot of anons are insecure about, but you can like anything. It doesn't hurt anyone else.

>>89508911
Things the last generation did because they didnt have anything else to occupy themselves with.

>>89509782
>They’re the popular culture people will remember in 30 years time
They said the same about Hill Street Blues...

>>89509782
>>89509771
>>89509752
>>89509729
>>89509690

Is that the whole thing?

'cause, i really want a hamburger made with all those things he talked about now. Far more than a whatever that thing is he talks about as being more satisfying...

>>89508640
"buy?"

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>>89508640
I do enjoy comic books from time to time. Not capeshit, but just your regular Euros, Disney's, occasional graphic novel. And I know why I like them, because they're basic, and geared towards kids, some are more ambitious, true, but they have nothing on a proper book, I mean capeshit, especially the main lines, is just a soap opera in spandex. I like to put away a book sometimes and read me some Asterix, Tintin or Donald. Having said that... I agree with the sentiment of that article - obsessing with comic books in adulthood is like being in a metal/punk/skinhead subculture - it just means your socialisation failed miserably and you haven't managed to mature properly. Maturing should mean broadening your intellectual horizons which could mean marginalising or even leaving behind your childhood pursuits. I think the author takes his stance a bit too far but he is not wrong - there are far too many emotionally underdeveloped manchildren wanking to 2D.

>>89509729
The fuck is a cassoulet

>>89509824
>>89509729
>hamburger out of Wagu beef mixed with foie gras and then serving it in a toasted brioche bun and topping it with artisan cheddar, oak-cured bacon and hand-brined pickles

Holy fuck that would be amazing.

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>>89508640
It's true. stop indulging in glorified children movies.

>>89509773
I'm personally more offended by all that ME ME ME

>>89509729
>>Let’s use a food analogy.
Who wrote this?

Because whoever wrote this would love to read /v/ for /v/endetta?

>>89509856
French dish. It's a mixture of white beans, meat and pork skin, mixed in a sauce. It's good.

>>89509856
Quick glance at google's telling me it's a pot of meat and beans. Maybe it's something that guy's mum made for him, but that burger sounds way better.

>>89508665
>AIDSMOBY ruining everything like usual

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>>89509739
Where are you going? Because I'd make sure you'd have time for that shit. Everyone needs time for comics and cartoons

>>89509856
It's a french dish with meat and white beans. It's delicious but it's very rich.

I hate to sound like le Lewis Carol meme, but it took me to getting old and wretched to realize it doesn't matter what you like, most people won't care, just don't make an ass of yourself or hurt people, and try to support yourself and these interests in the process.

Seriously. Life is way too short to not do the things that bring you actual, genuine joy. I don't get this guy or guys like him. You don't get your cookie for being "an adult". Obviously I mean you still have to take care of your health and do something to support yourself, but nit picking interests is stupid

>>89509690
>>89509729
>>89509752
>>89509771
>>89509782
man this guy is a grade A douche

>>89510141
agreed

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>>89509729
>cassoulet
>more sophiticated
It's literally "put everything in a pot and let it cook for hours" kind of dish. Even fucking spaghetti bolognese are more sophisticated than a cassoulet.

Joke's on you, I haven't had Self Respect for so long, I've even forgotten the term a few times.

>>89509815
What is that about? I think I may have just proved your point.

>>89508640
Agreed. Just look at /co/ and /tv/ and tell me we're respectable adults.

>>89508640
>Normalfag opinions
Into the trash it goes

>>89509771
>You can say this intellectual snobbery if you like
I will

>>89509383
So...what happens if you've done both, and then some? Se this is why these articles on what is manly are all so dumb; their myopia suggests a man can only have, reasonably, two uses of leisure time.

It's true though. I have yet to see capeshit that wasn't pure distilled retardation. I don't understand how other people can genuinely enjoy that shit, unless they are developmentally stunted.

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>>89508665

Fuck you, Mike

>>89509782
>Of course, I can’t be reading all the time, so thank God for TV.

>Dismisses a medium as 'not real art'
>Admits to watching and liking TV

You can't make this shit up.

>>89508911
Listening to jazz and doing taxes.

>>89508665
I will never watch even a second of any of these videos.

>>89508935
Updike is good, but I wouldn't hold him as some paragon is western literature. At best, his craft is worth investigating.

What does a self respecting adult buy and watch? Is it harry potter and game of thrones?

>>89510425
>dismiss
>medium
>art
you don't even know the meanings of any of these words, you retarded manbaby

>>89510458
Nothing.

>>89510466
In what way did I use any of those words incorrectly? Or are you just butthurt that I knocked TV?

>>89508652
fpbp

Can anyone here truly say they are completely without some level of self-loathing.

>>89510466
Captialsation and punchuation.

>>89508911
Regretting

>>89510500
No. TV is quite possibly the worst invention, second only to the internet.

>>89510458
Art movie

>>89509856
Stew, but it has a French name so he thinks it's fancy.

>>89508911
Bitching on Twitter about politics.

>>89508911
Drinking yourself into the sweet embrace of death.

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>>89508984
>Real men shouldn't be playing games
>Real men talk about other men playing games
Also, never fucking got the fixing shit part. You are degenerate if you can't follow instructions and build an Ikea table, but if fridge broke down you are more likely to worsen situation by not calling people whose livelihoods directly depend on your fridge malfunctioning. You should be able to make money to get your shit fixed for you.

But hey, at least hunting is a hobby.

>>89510506
f u nerd

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>>89510502
I don't think anyone anywhere, regardless of gender, class, or ethnicity, can say with complete honesty they don't even have a tiny grain of or have not had a moment of self loathing in their adulthood.

>>89509699
>'movie-buff" type guys
That's just an opaque way of saying "Martin Scorsese is my life, man."

>stop liking what I dont like: the article
these articles are retarded. and I say this as a capefag hating son of a bitch.

>>89510410
Mike and Rich are usually the best parts but it was Jay this time around that made it gold.

>>89510587
YOU MUST STOOOP NOOOOOOW
i'm not baiting why does everyone think im baiting im DEAD . SEROUUSOUIOISIUSSS

>>89508911
Reading "War and peace" while listening to classical music.

>>89509897
Varg is a fun meme, but he burned ancient churches down due to "muh paganism" and murdered a guy as part of his cosplayer initiation ceremony. Dude was cuck as fuck.

>>89510625
But... I genuinely enjoy doing those things.

t. /lit/

Why do "they" not want people to read comics? Most of the industry was taken over by liberals. Why do the have a problem with it?

>>89508941
in fairness, look how many posts on this board are people frothing with rage at the very idea of people liking a series or character they don't also like.

>>89508640
i agree
as long as they dont actually try to make a quality movie then i consider it on pair with the bottom of the barrel of children movies
the only thing bad with superheroes is the people writting them

>>89510625
Harumph, reading? How is that based in reality? If you've got time to read and live in a world of make believe, you've got time to do something productive like get a second job.
-A true adult

>>89508640
>Lads?
True.

Not that it matters, no one in /co/ buys comics.

>>89510647
Well, do you not respect yourself?

>>89508640
Gamers are dead too, right? The only untainted entertainment for these mature, sophisticated, "thinking men" is cuck porn.

>>89508837
There's literally no reason to read a comic if it doesn't involve superheroes.

>>89510647
So stop doing it, self-repecting adult shouldn't have fun

>>89510364
Counterpoint: Hellboy.

>>89510694
>The only untainted entertainment for these mature, sophisticated, "thinking men" is cuck porn.
Exactly what moot said.

>>89510364
>all comics are capeshit
How can you call anything else besdies yourself retarded?

>>89510141
Hedonism is pretty pathetic. And actually you get a cookie for being an responsible adult who knows he must grow as person. Many great thing come from things rather tedious and unpleasant.

I don't actually LIKE learning new languages. It doesn't really give me that much of joy, it's a mean to an end. Same things with drawing, I need it as a skill to be a better designer. I take joy from a finished product or illustration and I'll gladly take a pat on the back, sure, but the process is annoying and tedious. So I should shit on learning and read comic books all day? That may be nice, but in the long run it's meaningless and boring.

>>89508911
going to work
creating other humans
spending time outside with other people
being an example for their kids
thing is tho there is no job security nor estability and the economy sucks nd there is areal state bubble
so nobody can

>>89508911
>>89510429
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ttwNDOT2rkw

>>89510141
>just don't make an ass of yourself
Let's not ask for impossibles.

It's true. Fiction is for the weak minded.

>>89510764
The whole "Live and let live" meme about consent is some hollow construct made by liberals to justify their actions, present and future. That kind of utilitarian, hedonistic school of thought is what result in the sheltered slackers known as SJWs

>>89509771
So no matter what kind of story a comic is trying to convey it's immediately for children because it has pictures?

>>89509782
>Series like The Wire, Breaking Bad, Narcos and Deutschland 83
Already forgotten. This guy's taste is terrible and I'm glad nobody will ever listen to him.

>>89509211
>not shut Updike

>>89510764
You get a cookie by making a tray of cookies and eating one. You can do that through what you consider self improvement. Some people do by reading an engrossing book, comic or prose. Others might do some woodworking. My father enjoyed making candles to give out as gifts.

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>>89508640
>No self-respecting adult should buy or watch several grown men sweating profoundly as they play against each other.

>>89508665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLoDsYm8YIQ
mike is such a gift

>>89510431

I'm finally proud of you, son

>>89509824

See, that's what I was thinking.

>>89511012
How do you grow by reading comic books? There's even a clear line between how higher forms of literature affect your brain and how avarage books do it. Comic books are far below that as a very basic art form. If you don't partake in the creative process you'll just have a nice time. That's all. You can't compare that to manual work or actual book reading.

>>89511012
I'm convinced that "self-improvement" and maturity in general is a genetic thing and you either have them or don't. A quick view of /r9k/ -- and any other 4chan board in general -- is enough to realize that some people simply won't ever amount to anything.

The people that got started "making a tray of cookies" in the first place probably didn't have to will themselves into self-improving or even give a thought about it in the first place. They just did it because it came from their inside. 4channers meanwhile couldn't be assed to get out of the house more than once a week.

>>89510870

Really? Because from what I know about SJWs, "Live and Let Live" is NOT something they like to preach or uphold.

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>>89509782
>hur dur comics suck make the pictures in your head
>Breaking Bad is some good shit
nigga what?

>>89511119
>There's even a clear line between how higher forms of literature affect your brain and how avarage books do it.
is there a study on this?

>>89511236
They do preach it, they just don't practice it around white, cis-straight men.

>>89511208
People should be encouraged to be better. Not stay the same, not brought down to the lowest common denominator.

>>89511274
People should be what they need to be. As long as they manage that they can spend the rest of their time and potential however they want.

>>89508640
100% true.

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>>89508640
they are right but they're also wrong. The truth is that capeshit is the manifestation of a relativist, nihilist society. Individuals don't know their root, don't have culture, they don't believe in God anymore. They don't know what is right or wrong, therefore the subconscious full of insecurity brings them to retire into the infantile world of the comicbooks they read while they were still innocent and young, in which good and evil are easy to spot, good always wins. In which evil is abominable instead of alluring and addictive as it is in their daily lives, that are so empty and far away from how human life should be that they prefer to pretend it doesn't exist, that genre is only a social construct, that life is one big sesame street episode, etc. etc.
It is no accident that tumblrfags and all sorts of plebs and normalfags chug this abhorrent shit down like it was coca-cola in 1886.
You faggots go on and on about "muh capeshit is better", "no mine is better", and don't realise you are slave to the inhabitable world you help nourish by refusing to see it in all its despicable reality.

>>89511119
>You can't compare that to manual work or actual book reading.
How do you grow by doing manual labor? It's literally the plebbest way to spend your time

>>89511268
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/342/6156/377

https://benjamins.com/#catalog/journals/ssol.3.1.06dji/details

There was also one with neuroscience and brain-mapping involved but I can't find it unfortunately.

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>>89508640
>writer is bald
>writer is named Rhymer Rigby

Of course this guy is assblasted, he looks & sounds like a third tier comic book villain and people have probably been telling him that his whole life...

>>89511324
This individualist bullshit again. No, people should strive to be better and should be encouraged to get better. Your thinking produces roving bands of morons and promotes mediocrity (at best).

>>89508640
>self-respecting
guess I'm in the clear

>>89511490
You can spend your whole life "improving yourself" by learning languages, reading novels because you were told they were influential, and avoiding vast swaths of culture that you've decided aren't worth your time. In the end all you'll have accomplished with that is to have occupied the empty spaces of life between workdays. No different from someone who chooses to do it by renting some blockbuster to watch with a bowl of popcorn and a cold beer. True improvement comes from pursuing what you want out of life for its own sake, not because you think it makes you better than others.

>>89510141
Pretty much, I know a nerd whose office is full of He-Man, GI Joe, Transformers,other toys plus comics and shit, and who works for a video game company is married, father of two and one of the most adult and responsible guys that I know.

He's also pretty social and in no way a shut-in so I guess that helps.

But people know he's a major comic geek and they don't give a shit, especially since he's not someone who is obnoxious about it.

>>89508640
Jokes on them, I have no self-respect!

>self-respecting

Okay, I'm good then.

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>>89510561
Clearly you've never heard of America's 45th President.

>>89512294
I mean if the leaks from the White House are true, he's just one big ball of insecurity

>>89511679
I don't "think" reading books makes someone better than people who don't. I KNOW it does. We all die the same, sure, another worthless argument of a hedonist, but it's better to expand your knowledge, expand your vocabulary, keep your mind sharp. It does make people better, smarter, more able, whatever you want to call it. Popular culture is low culture that doesn't really engage your mind and it's a distraction, someting nice to indulge yourself, even frequently if you like, but making it your main point of interest is just sad. Making it a field of study... whole another matter.

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>>89508665
>>89509843
What counts as obsessing or taking things seriously?

>>89512343
why is one art form lesser than another, though?

Why is visual art and the written word high art, but put them together and they're suddenly low art?

>>89512343

dude if you sit in a room and read all day it doesn't matter if it's comics or shakesphere.

>>89508935
Nice way Downfag

>>89508935
No way Downfag

>>89512417
That's a completely absurd statement. The use of language matters, the skill of the writer matters, the subject of the book matters. And that's only when taking literature into account. And there are, you know, actual scientific books that you actually learn shit from. How does that equate to some cape garbage that has 5 words per page half of which are onomatopoeias? Comics were more wordy back in the day, but now?

>>89512380
Are you going to ask next why is a kid's pop-up book worse than literature or a scientific book? Comic books are not literature and mostly, especially in the big two, they're not exactly high visual art. They have competent "manufacturers of pictures" and that's it. And even if they're actual artists time constraints rarely allow for a robust form.

>>89512644
>comic books are only capes
typical

>Thinking I respect myself

>>89508640
Only in Trump's America could he get away with this.

>>89512728
This is my post, ya mong: >>89509843
Also, other comics, while better than your regular capeshit, do not have that much staying power and are mostly a niche in the US. Other comics are better, especially in Europe, but still can't hold a candle to actual books.

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>>89508640
Just like they shouldn't keep their place clean?

>>89508640

Alan Moore?

>>89512883
>but still can't hold a candle to actual books.
why?

>>89512883
>there are no comics for adults
even more typical

>>89509843
Congratulations, anon, you've just built yourself a little hiearchy, and like everyone who has ever done so, placed yourself squarely on top. So cuuuuute!
Proper books haven't stopped you from being obvious or stupid. What a terrible shame.

>>89509843
And here you are with all the rest of us, wasting your life away on this garbage dumb of a website.
If you voluntarily come here you have no right to judge how others spend their free time.

>>89512338
I'd believe it.
Mother fucker used his press secretary to argue about his crowd sizes. Who fucking does that?

That was strike one on the "Show us you're mature/Give him a chance" ticket.

>>89508911
Click on click bait articles according to that

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>>89508640
>>89509690
>>89509729
>>89509752
>>89509771
>>89509782

>stop liking things I don't like the article

>>89508911
cut of the penises and find a feminist dominatrix

>>89512960
I see by those tabs you have taken that message to heart.

>>89513431
Cry me a river. I never claimed I was a god amongst men, it's not even a case of "stop liking what I don't like", because I very much like comic books. I'm just aware of what they are. Most of you arguing with me are just in denial because you feel the need to validate your hobby as a higher art, something deep and meaningful, others are just intellectual slobs who wish to put forth arguments for their laziness.

>>89513135
Most of those so called adult comics are just gratuitous violence and porn. The actually worthwhile ones deal with shit literature did years ago and mostly in a simplified manner fitting the form. Darwyn Cook's "Parker" is fantastic as a sort of storyboard for the stories, it's an adult comic book, but by comparisson the book is definitely more complex, albeit still pretty simple. Words and reader's imagiantion are more flexible than narration and a bunch of pictures.

>>89513042
The form necessitates simplification.

>>89513802
Wasting some of your time ain't bad, I'd argue it's necessary, and I'm actually reading a book checking in from time to time so my conscience is clear, dear anon.

>>89508911
>Talking/joking/gaming/watchingsports/whatever with friends
>Dating or being married, having kids, all that
>Having normal hobbies and passions like writing, reading, music, sports, actual films, etc.
>Working, making money
>Following politics but not being obsessed with it
>Occasionally taking vacations for a change in view
>Enjoying life at a steady, relaxed pace with the assurance that things are gonna work out alright for you and your loved ones

>>89514163
>Most of those so called adult comics are just gratuitous violence and porn
do you have like a checklist you're going down or something

>>89514219
Prove me wrong.

>>89509379
>49ers
Not anymore
>when you only win 2 games in a whole season

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>>89514163
>you feel the need to validate your hobby as a higher art, something deep and meaningful
Projecting a bit? I don't seeing many anons doing that.

>>89514252
Asterios Polyp
The Incal
The Metabarons
L'Eternauta
Ronin
Love and Rockets
Sandman Mystery Theatre

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>>89511341

>>89514252
>Makes a claim
>where are you getting this from?
>prove me wrong
wew

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>>89508640
>>89514033
>>89514195
>>89509030
The funny thing is, you can say that to everything.

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>>89514364
writing off a genre is different from writing a medium

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>>89514391

>>89508640
What about the animu?

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>>89514396
Than change it into novels. Because comics are just a genre of books or newspaper or magazins.

>>89514460
> comics are just a genre of books
No

>>89514460
are you dumb

>>89514321
Never understood the appeal of Jodorowsky, the man has the imagination of a child, but his stories also read like something a child would write.

>Asterios Polyp
Meh, that's what I'm talking about, its story is on par with a mediocre novel at best and a bit pretentious.

Sandman Mystery Theatre and Ronin were okay, but they're entertainment, what's so great about them?

But let's say these are all fine examples, they are few and far between. For every pretentious little graphic novel you get something ongoing like The Boys, Crossed and Uber. By sheer volume they make for a larger part of what constiture "adulf comics".

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>>89508640
Only respectful adults such as myself read real literature with believable, mature and respectable stories, such as...

>Man trying to kill a whale
>Children wizards
>Robot who murders people
>Naive young man who commits sudoku
>Detective who discover that unicorns are real
>Old man who argues with ghosts
>Man who fights windmills because he thinks they're dragons
>Naive young woman who commits sudoku
>Man who fights various gods, some with magical powers, and monsters
>Doctor who revives the dead with science
>Psycho who kills wife, and is exposed by a cat which may or may not be magic

Truly these are not stories the uncultured bourgeoisie who read comics about men in spandex (HA!) could appreciate or understand. They are for those with refined taste, such as I.

>>89514508
adult books are also mostly schlocky trash so I don't really see what your point is

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>got into every piece of geek culture shit except American comics
>didn't even like the Marvel movies

>>89514530
The funny thing is I'm not even that keen on literature, most of my books have citations, so I'm mainly concerned with those. Still, a mediocre book probably has the value of best graphic novels. If you can write you mainly write books with an odd exception here and there.

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>>89514483
Sure it is. Illustrated books are old. Just because you change the cover thickness, paper. Its still a medium like books or magazins.

>>89512343
>I KNOW it does
You're a complete idiot as expected of a /lit/ard, then. Or a shitty troll. Either way, fuck off.

>>89508640

No self respecting man would let other people tell him how to live his life.

>>89514520
Exactly. On point.

>>89509843
how many layers of pretentiousness are you on

>>89508640

The wealthiest and most well rounded guy I know earns 135k a year, has his own house at 25 and is getting married later this year.

Nigga wont stop asking me when Samurai Jack is back and talking about Dragonball Super.

What a failure of a man

>>89509919
so its kind of like chilli

>>89509729
the guy who wrote that sounds like a massive asshole who has his head so far up his ass he cant see anything fun from inside there. Sure, capeshit movies are mostly shit, but when you start rubbing how sophisticated you are, compared to the masses, you might as well complain about Drumpf and ask for a sex reassignment surgery while at it.

>>89509880
>wasting Wagyu beef on a fucking burger

>>89514520
You could even take religions

Believes in stories about...
>a god that never got proven
>creation that is disproven
>gives illness and death to innocent because he want to
>a woman that got virginal pregnant
>a guy that can walk on water

>>89514520
Don't forget:

>Man turning into a giant beetle
>Cynical high school student goes through mid-life crisis
>Man becomes stepfather and fucks underage stepdaughter
>A narcissistic cunt indulges in everything right and wrong for the sake of being a cunt
>A bunch of people in forest are forced to do a shitty play for other people whilst being controlled by fairies

There's

>>89515141
>>Cynical high school student goes through mid-life crisis
christ fuck that book

>>89510764
I don't have to spend my productivity on a task I hate just because I can't do it. I mean, I don't like learning new languages either. I don't want a job as an interpreter or ambassador. I'd much rather work in Autocad and design stuff in 3D, because that's a task I like that also contributes to my own skills and - if I get a job in that field - will contribute to society.

Let someone who enjoys linguistics and hates computers do all the multilingual stuff. I'll never really like learning languages, and they'll never really like doing computershit, no matter how skilled we both get by spending our time on tasks we hate. Essentially, we'd be accomplishing the same amount as if we'd picked careers we like, except in this case we'd both hate our lives.

But as for free time? Go fuckin nuts. Read comics. Play vidya. Jack off 14 times in a row. Fuck, I do dot-to-dot puzzles just because I like them. Are they a challenge? No way. But they're fun af and nobody can be productive 100% of the time without burning out.

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>>89508665
>>89511071
I'd watch their shit if they cut out all the fake laughing, laughter shouldn't be the punchline of all the jokes.

>>89510764
>but the process is annoying and tedious
If you're a fucking moron. Learning new languages is not at all hard nor tedious. But hey, all of your posts reek of intellectual insecurity so what else should I expect?

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>>89508935
Motherfucking grand scale indoctrination. I really wish this mindset would die.

>>89508640
This isn't reddit, lad. We know our hobbies are childish, and don't feel a need to justify it

>>89508911
Getting pussy, i guess

>tfw no gf

>>89508640
who cares what a liberal douchebag thinks about comics? And even if we do, this is /co/, at least we arent /a/ or /pol/

>>89509712
>Are they even intended for kids currently?
Nope

>>89509471
Being an adult means working your ass off for fifty years and then dying. Childhood is the honeymoon-like interval where you have your fun before adulthood sets in.

>>89509782
Sounds like /tv/, the article

>>89515954
That's what it used to mean like 20 years back. You would be surprised how childish some adults can be today.

>>89509771
>And yes, I know Persepolis started as a graphic novel – and very good it is too. But it’s an exception to the general rule that if you need to shave, you should be reading books where you have to make the pictures in your own head. You can say this intellectual snobbery if you like, but you only have to go a little way down this road before you find yourself arguing that V for Vendetta is the equal of Lolita – and I’m afraid my artistic relativism doesn’t stretch that far, even if yours does.

This is Ebert/video games tier

>>89515182
Reading it in high school was the first time I was aware of what "pretentious" meant.

>>89509782
man, how many memes can you spout?

>>89509771
wow EVEN The Dark Knight Returns?

nigga if you can't appreciate the artistic merit of The Dark Knight Returns you don't know a lot about art

>>89511341
I give this psuedo-intellectual/10

>>89514520
>Children wizards
Nigga, Harry Potter's ridiculed by most literature enthusiasts

>>89516157
but /lit/ loves it xdd

>>89508640
kek, m8 no self respecting man tells others what hobby they should or shouldn't have,
but they're right so...

>>89508640
lit wrote an article?

>>89516202
although i've seen a few nice threads about comics on /lit/ i do agree that comics should ONLY be discussed on /co/

>>89516157
hey you don't know maybe he was referring to Terry Pratchett's Equal Rites

>/co/ """"moderation""""
This thread is just shitposting and another proof that humanities students are self-aggrandizing cancer.
>inb4 hurr STEM students are the same
Not even engineering degree students are as bad as humanities students when it comes to having a stick up their ass and thinking they're smarter than everyone else.

>>89508640
Yes. I can't refute this. I know 99% comics are low art that i enjoy with absolutely no irony. So what? I'm not reddit, why should I pretend muh comics are as culturally relevant as some meme author or director?

>>89516282
Look at the faggot who makes the XKCD comics and say that again with a straight face.

>>89508652
first post best post /thread abandon thread

>>89516332
XKCD is no different from your average /lit/ thread in terms of looking smug while saying nothing of value, but I really have never seen anyone else as obnoxious as that guy.

>>89516391
b-but i like /lit/ ;_;

>>89510562

I don't know how far back in time you need to go for that to be the case, I'm more talking about guys who go see every film that is out at least once, and have a mostly favorable opinion of most of those movies. I more mean movie watching as a hobby, not people that like one or two movies way too much. you know, those guys that have over 100+ low rent horror movies on dvd.

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>>89515319
fuck. I cut myself off in the middle.
What I meant to say in this entire thing is that self-improvement without the larger goal of improving society could be called hedonism. If you read a novel or learn a language and gain a new understanding of this-or-that topic for your own sake, but don't actually use that information to improve others' lives, that's hedonism. You're pursuing knowledge for the sake of thinking of yourself as a better person. But you're not using your knowledge to help the human condition, you're using it to pleasure yourself by thinking of yourself as superior to others who don't self-improve.

It's like if you planted a garden and ate every single bit of what it grew, to the point of puking. Sure you started a task, worked for it, and got a fulfilling result, but in the end nobody benefited but you. Of course, you are totally entitled to do this and nobody has the right to complain, because it's your vegetables that you grew with your own time and effort on your property. Nobody can demand that you share, because that was all you. Eating all your own vegetables is hedonism, but it's a benign hedonism. Nobody else was entitled to the vegetables anyway, so keeping them to yourself doesn't change anything.

But if you wanted to be nice, you could have brought a bag of leftover zucchini to your neighbor, because you had more than you could eat. Even if your neighbor didn't want your zucchini, it would be kind to offer.

If someone has a tiny revelation about something from reading a comic and shares it with one other person, then that's better than the same person reading a novel and keeping everything they realized all to themselves. It doesn't hurt anyone to keep your knowledge to yourself, but if you have a chance to share it kindly and improve someone else's existence, that's the best.

pic related, it's what I felt like writing this whole thing

>>89508911
Constantly worrying about how mature other people view oneself and denying onself the simple pleasures of entertainment.

That is how you be an adult. Now get off this degenerate image board and start being a stiff, you don't get to like anything anymore.

>>89515141
>>A narcissistic cunt indulges in everything right and wrong for the sake of being a cunt
What book?

>>89517178
Portrait of Dorian Grey I think

>>89517192
Ah, too bad, it sounded interesting.

>>89517254
it's a pretty great book if you haven't read it

>>89517308
I read it over a decade ago in high school and hated it; I tried reading it again a few years back to see if my opinion changed, but I put it down after a couple chapters and never picked it back up.

Maybe I'll try it again one day.

>>89512343
No, you twit. Reading doesn't make people smarter. Reading is an outlet that helps people direct their intelligence on something (or an entertainment which your pretentious ass seems to despise), so no matter how many deep books you read if a person is born with more brainpower, then he or she is much better than you are, even if they never pick a book in their life.

>>89508640
Seriously, with all the shit self-respecting adults in modern society shouldn't be doing but are anyway, citing capeshit as a problem is laughably petty. Like, this is a newsworthy social problem?

>>89508640
Why is it that people have a problem with adults being into capeshit but worshipping overpaid prima donnas for playing a game designed to entertain children is the height of masculinity?

>>89508640
Fun fact: 70% of people working in the mainstream media live under rocks. The other 30% are dinosaurs.

>>89512343
Well shit, I guess if I read fanfic all day I will be expanding my knowledge, vocabulary, and keep my mind sharp.

>>89517458
>t. person who was top of the class growing up but never really applied themself and fantasizes about the life they will lead 'when they get their shit together', a plan which has been stuck on step one since they graduated barely above average

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>>89508640
>Self respecting adult
>Is a journalist

>>89519215
Can you project a little bit less? I don't want to go blind.

>>89519134
>bumping this shitty thread when it was about to die

>>89519292
Hypocrite.

>>89519329
>what is sage?
Goddamn, I hate newfags so much.

>>89510625
I illegitimately do this. It's way more 'entertaining' than you'd think, especially as W&P is a very down to earth book that doesn't drown you in pretension or flowery prose at all.

>>89519349
Thread's still not dead

the best things in life are free

>>89508640
Nice. Maybe now trying to appeal cancer will be dropped now.

>>89519507
I too enjoy piracy

>>89519462
>listening to music
>entertaining
You are diluting the reading experience . If you want to listen to music, go watch a movie. Soundtracks add to the movies, not so much to reading.

>>89508640
What?! Adults watch superhero movies?
Maybe next you'll be telling me that not all video games are made for kids, or that strong female characters existed before Moana!

>>89519602
>*or that female characters are always shit
FTFY

>>89508640
>self-respecting

Remember kids, not liking things you like because somebody implied that they're badwrong is how you demonstrate self-respect to the world and to yoru peers.

>>89513862
Lets not forget his annual letters to Vanity Fair magazine that's just him drawing around his hands to prove that they are in fact average size because someone in the late 80's said he had small hands in an article in Vanity Fair.

>>89508640
>no self respecting
Whelp, they got me.

Don't fall for clickbait, you idiots.

>>89512338
He funels it all into his own reality marble.

Problem being that magic ain't real.

>>89512338
He can't feel insecure. He'd need a brain to do that.

I really wish people would stop equating comics to super heroes.

>>89519841
I wish mods started doing their fucking jobs.
Guess what, disappointment happens.

No self-respecting adult should enjoy life in ways I disapprove of.

Scratch that, they shouldn't enjoy life period.

>>89512338
>leaks

they don't say anything you couldnt imagine watching the news if youre a liberal

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>>89512338
>leaks

So reading the POTUS twitter account is hacking then?

>>89508640
Good thing I hate myself.

But in all seriousness, part of being adult is that one doesn't have to be insecure about things he/she/xir likes. But I don't expect infantile millennial shits to know the difference.

>>89508935
>And you know what? He was right.
Daddy Issues!

>>89517178
Faust?

>>89508640
No, they're right.

If Marvel comics is any indication, it's worth leaving behind hero/cape-shit.

>>89508640
>Lifestyle > Men > Thinking Man

Is this a site maintained by Quentin or something?

>>89508640
>taking advice
>from someone that writes click bait for a living

>>89508935
>John Updike

Who?

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>>89508640

My problem ain't that I have no self-respect, it's that I GET no respect.

>>89520093
This

I only read mature comics like Batman

>>89515456
Lemme guess, you speak only one language, right?

>>89520422
Quit projecting already, you /lit/ard moron, and get cancer.
The world could use less arrogant garbage like you.

>>89517458
>Redn dun maek smart man, it dunt.
Not that it increases analytical skills, memory and focus. No siree. Intelligence is only hereditary in about 50%.

>>89520438
You're just a loud bellend. If you'd read the discussion you'd know I'm not a great fan of literature, but that doesn't mean I don't see the obvious value of it. You can wiggle your fingers on that keyboard as much as you want and claim that languages aren't tedious to learn, because clearly you don't know any. There's no easy way to learn thousands of words. It gets easier when learning languages from the same family, but it's still a chore.

>>89520449
>I smurt cuz I read XD
Keep telling yourself that. As long as it helps you pretend that you're superior to everyone else.
>Not that it increases analytical skills, memory and focus.
It obviously doesn't. You and your idiotic posts are a proof of that. Or the fact that every single lit student I have ever met is a complete idiot not unlike you.

>>89520476
Дa yмpи ты oт paкa, тyпoй мyдeнь. Зaeбaл.
They are
No, you don't see the value of literature. You see the value of telling everyone how great you are and how smart it makes you while shitting on everything that doesn't feed your shitty ego. Shut up and die already.

>There's no easy way to learn thousands of words
It's not like most languages are severlely incestuous and easy to adapt. If only you had the brainpower for something beyond being an arrogant cunt.

>>89508652
Nailed it.

>>89520490
>if u disagree u dun rid buks
Listen here, you hopefully soon to be tumor-ridden glob of flesh. I, unlike you, actually love literature. Russian in particular. Believe me, I know tons of people who do and yet they're still no more intelligent than the average Joe, and that without counting lit student who are for the most part morons and, well, you. The king of all morons in the world.
so quit your pseudo-intellectual trash.

> I don't particularly like literature
Of course you don't. Judghing by your shitposts you only like how it makes it makes you feel superior to everyone else, pretensious cunt.

>>89520490
And good job putting words in my mouth about books being useless.
Goes to show how intelligent they make you.

>>89520529
>all those grammatical errors
Well, fuck. Look what you made me do with your piece of shit personality.

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>>89508935
>Not making you start with the greeks
Disgusting.

>>89520489
Zakroj rot pidor, ja dolzhel byl znat chto ty russkiy. U mena net kyryllicu, no ponimayu.

>>89520529
You love literature and you claim that it's on the same level as comic books and that reading it has the same benefits as reading comics. Are you barmy or what?

>>89514922

lemmie guess, your the kind of manchild who throws a fit when adults order well done, ie done ;^)

>>89508640
People still respect themselves these days?

>>89520835

Only if they haven't yet checked their privilege.

>>89520700
Let me guess, a Polack. I wish Germany exterminated all of you. My life would've been significantly better if you and the likes of you were nothing but ash.

I understand that you're an idiot and all, but stop putting words in my mouth.
>HURR U CANT LUV THE LITRUTUR IF U DUN FINK IT MAKS U SMURTR
Shut. Up. And. Die.
It may come as a surprise to you, but people read not because they're tryhard morons (which in the case of the likes of you is translated into "I do it because I'm a self-absorbed douchebag who wants to show off his superiority". Though, if you really are a Polack, I can't blame you. You people are legit subhumans and you're probably insecure because of that.)
There are no fucking benefits, you dumb cunt. They only exist in your mind. I read because I like to analyze and observe, same as comics, same as cinema, same as any other medium. Whether something is more well-written or not is another fucking story. Reading "because you don't enjoy it but it makes you "broaden your horizons"" or stupid shit like that makes you a fucking tryhard.
>inb4 your dumb ass interprets it as "HURR YOU DON'T WANT TO IMPROVE"

And good job shitting on the entire medium because of your narcisstic cuntery.

You know what, you're really pissing me off right now. Can you just kill yourself so I could leave this shitty thread instead of waiting for more of your autism?

>>89520548
>Not making you start with the greeks

I wouldn't suggest anybody to start any earlier than watered-down Roman fanfics of greek material. Greek shit is dense and written for a very small in-audience that's been dead for over 2000 years.

Math is thousand times more complex and interesting than fiction could ever be

>>89508640
"People aren't allowed to do what they want with the money they earned because I said so"

>>89514711
Yeah except you make it a visual medium, too.
You don't spend a page describing a new villain's look like in a novel, you show him in one big panel visually.

This is like saying that television is a genre of radio.

>>89520885
Do literaturefags really hate themselves because they cannot contribute anything worthwhile to the world like a STEMfag would?

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>>89520874
>written for a very small in-audience that's been dead for over 2000 years.
I suppose my literature teachers are ghosts then.
Greeks are fucking fun, and if I had been a little luckier I could have had parents who had a reading habit and could sugest me to read some plays.

>>89510599

Jay has his moments every once in a while.

>>89508640
I agree, but I also think no self-respecting adult should watch hollywood movies, buy tabloids, watch TV, watch sports events, buy consumer electronics, vanity products or indulge in fashion.

>>89520950
Add "interacting with women" to that list, because humiliating yourself to get some dumbass whore to like you is a sign of a manchild.

>>89520851
I'm really glad you're talking this so presonally, shows how immature of a twat you are. And no, I'm not shitting on an entire medium, I don't want to delegalise it or burn every comic book I get my hands on. I like some of them. I simply state the facts. Reading books engages brain in a different way than reading comic books. The MRI scans of people reading literature suggested it's also about thinking about what you read. Comic book, as a sequential image story, doesn't require that much brainpower, as image recognition is less demanding than thinking about what the actual words describe.

You bring up anecdotal evidence that your acquaintances read literature and are about as smart as you avarage Ivan. Well, I know people who are into literature and I consider them pretty stupid, but I'm first to admit they are still above avarege and definitely more articualate and have higher level of general knowledge. And it counts for something in my book.

>>89520950
>>89520961
I can hear how fat you are from here

>>89520950
>>89520961
I take it you're a virgin

>>89520900
Except radio is only audio and television is visual + audio. But you could say television is a kind of radio, since it evolved from there. But you added a new sense to it.
But comics have letters, pictures and a plot. Like books too. The only difference is the quantity of text and how it is placed.
But its still on printed pages in general. It never added something that isnt used in books, just shifted the ratio from text to pictures.

>>89510625

I read through a book about Tom Waits interviews one new year's eve while drinking red wine and his albums were playing on the background. Does that count?

>>89520983
owned

>>89520964
>shows how immature of a twat you are
Oh, I'm sorry people are not allowed to get angry at idiots spouting shit and being smug about it. I forgot.
>I don't want to delegalise it or burn every comic book I get my hands on.
>I'm not shitting on the entire medium despite doing exactly that, here's this stupid extreme that proves me right
Jesus Christ.
>Reading books engages brain in a different way than reading comic books. The MRI scans of people reading literature suggested it's also about thinking about what you read.
Boo-fucking-hoo, people have visuals in their heads when they read books. What a new and shocking discovery. That proves absolutely fucking nothing you daft cunt. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if that's considered "intellectual stimulation" by you, but all you're doing is trying to discredit visual mediums as something inferior.

You are saying literally nothing of value this entire thread beyond "my opinions are facts" and projecting when someone disagrees with you.

>And it counts for something in my book.
Congratulations. You're one of the millions of sheep who let shitty politicians thrive.
>now you're going to accuse me of jumping to conclusions when you yourself were perfectly okay with it.

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>>89509690
>>89509729
>>89509752
>>89509771
>>89509782
Why must people like this shove their interests down our throats??? Why must people not let us have fun our own way? Is this really what the adult world is like on a day to day basis? I just became a man last year, now I want to go back. At least as a kid I can play with some fucking spiderman toys

just for the record, NOBODY in this thread claiming to be "adult" or "intelligent" for reading a book or reading a comic or whatever the fuck they're arguing about actually is. They're just angry virgins living with mom and dad that went to community college trying to act like they know the world

Move along

>>89508640
True. Not because they're childish. It's because they're bad.

>>89521076
Dont fear. Its just that they lost their imagination, having fun with silly things and understanding other things. So they want that everyone is the same.
They think their hobby is the only adult stuff, but forget that adult comes in different layers and mostly they just sugar coate silly stuff as adult behaviour.
And this is just clickbait article to provoke someone, aka the journalism trolls.

>>89521118
Like the rest of the world.

>>89521159
Funny. When I say that about liking black people, people call me racist.

Russian literature is actually easy to read, /co/. Shit, it's so influenced by theater that a book like Crime and Punishment reads like a play.

>>89521076
The guy is a pseudo-intellectual with an inferiority complex so he must act smug and tell other people that they have bad wrong fun to feel better about himself.

The only good thing to come from Poland is Stanislaus Lem.

>>89521220
But also Witold Gombrowicz and Roman Polanski.

But do our corporate masters consume comics and/or cartoons?

Why does this generation seem so uncomfortable, even terrified, of adulthood?

>>89521253
Bad parenting.

>>89520885
No, it's not.

>>89521275
Yes, it is

>>89520548
>the Greeks
>not Ancient Sumer

Mongrels

>>89521262
Bad schooling, too.

>>89521227
>Roman Polanski
Literally babby's first serious cinematographist on par with David Fincher and Von Trier.

>>89508911
Posting on an anonymous anime image board

>>89508640
I just come her every now and then to laugh at you

>>89508640
Golden rule, If any one tells you what kind of escapism is ok or not ok to like, their an asshole.


If you are ashamed to like any kind of escapism that isn't shit that put you into situations that are dangerous or potentially get the police called on you like MLP.

Strait up I bet that fag who wrote this article also played Pokemon GO.

>>89521209

I heard Russia lit is shit when translated into English roughly 90% of the time.

>>89508911
Starting the Day of the Rope.
Unfortunately, we're too cucked for that to ever happen.

>>89508640
Gaaaaaay.

Kids don't buy comics now anyway.

Comics are for grown-ups by virtue of children not giving a fuck about them.

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>>89508665
God I love RLM