Is Steven Universe popular in Japan?.

It's too autistic and serious for Japan

Japan loves Gumball
Japan is indifferent to Steven Universe

>>89450096
is that a joke? autism might as well be japans biggest export.

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I was gonna start a thread about this but this is a better place to post

Recently met a Japanese exchange student at my uni, not really a westaboo, but big on anime and wanted to learn more about western animation, old and new.

We sat down and I showed him some steven universe and he seemed a little confused because everyone was a lesbian but it wasn't really sexy, and was surprised to hear it was a kid show and not something aimed at Western otaku. He liked pearl and lapis tho.

He also thought garnet was a man and only realized she was a she after hearing her sing.

He thought it had a nice look but that it didn't really seem to go anywhere. I showed him some of the bomb episodes back to back and he said those were a lot closer to the kind of stuff he was used to and suggested they should just make those arcs into ovas while keeping the episodic stuff as tv material. Apparently they have obscene amounts of spinoff for shows in japan.

On a somewhat related note I showed him samurai jack and he said it was the kind of stuff his dad would like. But he lost his shit over aku and thought he was the coolest.

>>89450065
I doubt it. The Gems aren't naked enough.

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>>89450211
Garnet doesn't look like a man...she is probably the curviest character. What the hell?

The rest is valid.

>>89450278
>everyone was a lesbian but it wasn't really sexy
How is that a valid critism?

>>89450123
There's a pretty dedicated fanbase in Japan for Steven and the gems.
But if there's a place SU is popular, it's Korea.

>>89450278
In Japan, Garnet has a deep as fuck voice courtesy of Mitsuki "Rossiu" Saiga. I thought she was voiced by a dude at first.

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>>89450289
From the point of view of a japanese guy, it is understandable.

Wouldn't mind a sexier design too. Rebecca S likes to draw Garnet showing her tits anyway.

>>89450123
From what I've gathered, Gumball, SU and WBB are the hottest CN shows in Japan.
WBB even has exclusive merchandise in glorious Nippon.

>>89450289

The point is that the anime he's used to features lots of cute and/or hot lesbians.

I go to 2channel occasionally to practice Japanese and among the drawfags there's a humorous reverse-4chan effect happening. Basically some guys who normally draw porn are so moved from the relationships that they refuse to draw porn.

Elsewhere in 4chan, more people get mad because this show is about lesbians who can change into any form and they choose stick girls and plum bodies.

>>89450376
But Japan hates lesbians

>>89450317
>WBB even has exclusive merchandise in glorious Nippon.

Please tell me you are talking about Panda's body pillow.

>>89450413
Japan hates lesbian relationships.
They like girl on girl action just like everyone else.

>>89450413
but they love "lesbians"

>>89450413
>hates lesbians
Not when they are loli.

>>89450421
Sorry to disappoint.
https://mobile.twitter.com/vvhachiouji/status/798369840293523457

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>>89450413
>what is the takarazuka effect?

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It gets a decent amount of art

>>89450531
>not "clodu"

I don't know what the ratings are but the general Japanese opinion among Japanese nerds is

>Peridot is cute
>Amethyst is hilarious
>They listen to the undubbed music on Youtube because it's great
>It's referred to as a "gentle" anime, although the kanji used could also mean "elegant" or "classy."
>There are some animation nerds who love that the show nods to 80s and 90s anime, and then they talk about the disappointment with moe-style designs

So among their niche, whatever size it is, Steven Universe is well accepted. Can't say anything about ratings however.

It's pretty popular, yeah. They're not interested in alt-right memes and hiveminds.

>>89450317
doesn't japan love adventure time too?

>>89450632
And Rick and Morty, strangely. You'd think that one would have too many ingrained Western jokes but I guess it has enough action to balance that.

>>89450632
Oh yeah, forgot about AT. Basically, if it's cute and quirky, Japan will love it.

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>>89450065
No, We Bare Bears is far more popular.

I took pic related in a shop in Tokyo recently, it was one of the few modern western series they had a section for. This was alongside Dr. Slump and some other kids series I didn't recognise.

>>89450731
Well the bear stack is pretty much the same thing as that Disney Tsum Tsum fad.

>>89450297
Could that be why Steven actually went to Korea in a recent episode?

>>89450975
It was probably a reference to how SU is animated in Korea.

>>89450653
Exactly

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>>89450065
>What Can I Do For You

What?

>>89450653
MLP flopped there.

>>89450065
right, yeah. the country full of anime is really going to like a crummy anime knockoff.

>>89450401
>Basically some guys who normally draw porn are so moved from the relationships that they refuse to draw porn.

I want this to be true so bad

>>89450289
Because guys don't want to watch unattractive lesbians. How are you not getting this?

>>89450413
Lesbianism is like a cute phase girls in Japan go through before they have sex with a man.

>>89450991
It stoll scored brownie points with Koreans. Asian countries in general have this sort of inferiority complex when it comes to Western stuff, so when a show or movie features their country they go apeshit.

>>89450544
>not クラード

>>89452277
>Loud House

What?

>>89452847
One boy in a house with 11 sisters. Sounds like a harem anime to me.

Of course that'll sell in Japan

>>89453255
Actually 10 sisters

>>89450211
>But he lost his shit over aku and thought he was the coolest.
Well, he's not wrong.

>>89450065
Why would they like something that is a random mix of a bunch of things they have been exposed to for decades?
Why would you possibly like Steven when you've watched Utena and Sailor Moon?

>>89453661
RIP Mako

>>89453646
10, 11, it's more than most families, and that = incest. And incest = fat stacks of otaku cash

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>>89450531
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING?

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>>89454320
BUY PERI GAMU STEVEN-COON

>>89452166
The song lyrics? What do you mean "What?".

>>89450096
>serious
pffthaha

oh and of course it isn't. japan doesn't like fat fucking cows

>>89450317
>From what I've gathered, Gumball, SU and WBB are the hottest CN shows in Japan.
Wow so like 20 people watch it?

>>89452190
neither cute nor quirky

japan has to much of a horseriding warrior culture to see horses as anything other than the barely constrained hell beasts they truly are

>>89450096
>too autistic
>for autismland

What the fuck

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>>89450413
>Japan hates lesbians

>>89456776
They like shoujo ai. Little girls that barely hit the legal age of 14 exploring their bodies and emotions, not straight up adult lesbians with big noses and fat lips.

>>89450317
A brief glance at Nico's 海外アニメ tag says no

Adventure Time and Undertale are more popular.

No. SU is filled with hideous ugly body creatures that non fat dykes hate. Anime females are perfect/thin/beautiful in contrast. There's no reason they would like the ugly hideous designs of su.

>>89455928
1. There's very little fat characters in SU.
2. Fat characters appear in Japanese works.

>>89453800
Currently, the new trend in magical girl anime is dark, deconstrucitve shows like Madoka.
A show like SU which plays magical girl shows straight would probably seem refreshing.

>>89457796
>There's very little fat characters in SU.
Of the main 4 cast, Steven, Amethyst and Garnet would be fat by Japanese standards.
Remember Japan doesn't have a 70% overweight population like the US and doesn't consider being fat the norm.

>>89452317
You'd be surprised.

>>89457871
>Garnet
>fat
Literally what the fuck?

And Steven lost weight during the show.

>>89457898
Yes, in Japan Garnet would be considered fat. And Steven is still fat.

>>89457922
How would she be considered fat? It's all in her thighs.

Not only has Steven thinned out but there's characters like Biscuit from IBO. So it's not like Japan are that against fat characters in media.

>>89457788
You really don't understand Japanese tastes, do you?

>never watch any SU
>accidentally click Stronger Than You because it's in my suggested box in Youtube for some reason
>really fucking love the song and the fight

Is it as good as that scene, /co/?

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>>89450065
There's a manga coming out in Japan right now called Houseki no Kuni that's about far future gem people. I've never actually watched SU, but I know it at least involves semi-genderless? gem people.

I think it's kinda Japan's SU.

>>89450582
I heard Amethyst is very popular with some Japanese. When they saw Amethyst's backstory they were "dead" as they put.

>>89457999
No one likes your ugly fat bodies tumblrco

>>89457968
>It's all in her thighs.
Your American is showing. I'm sure living in a country where 70% of everyone you meet is fat, you probably think just being fat in your thighs makes you not fat. But in healthy asian countries, fat in thighs means your fat.
And who cares about IBO, I'm talking about SU not whether fat people appear in anime.

>>89458055
Confirmed for not understanding what Japan considers cute and beautiful (there's a distinction over there).

Phineas and Ferb is the most popular cartoon in Japan. At least among kids in school. No idea what western stuff otakus like.

>>89458002
Some people will say yes, others will say no
In truth its a mixed bag because the story-boarders write the episodes they work on, some are better at this than others
watch and see if you like it yourself, its the best way.

>>89458120
Japan doesn't consider ugly fats "cute" you baka gaijin.

>>89458066
First of all, the whole fat makes no sense because the Gems are made of light and can shapeshift.

And 2, big thighs doesn't fucking equal fat; if anything it would muscle in Garnet's case. By that logic, Chun Li is fat.

And you're foreign is showing, considering IBO is a Gundam show, which is pretty big in Japan.

>>89457847
>SU which plays magical girl shows straight
I'm trying hard to avoid the low-hanging fruit there.

for me, SU feels like the story that comes after a space opera; humans enslaved, an alien rebel turning against her kind, a costly war to save Earth with a bittersweet conclusion... and that was all long before Steven was born.

>>89458155
And yet Simpsons and Gumball are super popular over there.

>>89450211
>he seemed a little confused because everyone was a lesbian but it wasn't really sexy

I find this part the most interesting

>>89458211
Both of which at least had good writing, unlike all of SU.

>>89458187
>the Gems are made of light and can shapeshift.
They look fat they're fat. They're fat. Accept it.
>considering IBO is a Gundam show
Get some reading comprehension. I know Iron Blooded Orphan is an anime. I even said it was an anime. I'm saying I'm not talking about anime you fat loving troll.

>>89458236
>moving the goalposts

>>89458245
Did you completely ignore my second point.

What are you even talking about at this point?

>>89458254
What goalposts?

Simpsons has thin characters, the only fat one is homer.

Gumball is all animal creatures and doesn't even apply.

SU on the other hand has fatasses, blacks, and other minorities en masse that are stylized as humans (but they are rocks xDDDD) which no one in Japan enjoys.

>>89458236
>Simpsons
>good writing
Maybe if you're talking about the Golden Age Simpsons.

>>89458309
So what did you feel the need to bring up writing?

>>89458339
To further my point on why it's disliked so.

>>89458309
>SU on the other hand has fatasses, blacks, and other minorities en masse that are stylized as humans (but they are rocks xDDDD) which no one in Japan enjoys.
Trigger likes them.

>>89457847
I don't keep up with anime. Don't they still have Precure?

>>89458362
The 14th season premiered not too long ago.

>>89458362
Precure is literally meant for little girls with grown men being a side market but a lot of "adult" magical girl shows are taking the dark and edgy route.

>>89458358
Have the Japanese ever complained about the writing?

>>89457847
>the new trend
>dark, deconstrucitve shows like Madoka.
the new trend is magical girl soldiers fighting in WW1-esque conflicts

>>89450211
>but he lost his shit over aku and thought he was the coolest

Really odd actually, most of the japanese fandom of Samurai Jack is obsessed with Jack.

Not that I'm complaining though, he clearly has superior taste

>>89458020
They're all the exact same but with different hair and clothes. Their designs are so wonky that even when their eyes are falling off their faces you hardly register it. I don't understand this kind of style. There's good designs in anime, but these kind of shows just look awful.

>>89458066
You've never met anyone with massive squat thighs. It's all muscle. Her waist is nonexistent. This is a low tier ruse.

>>89450211
>He liked pearl and lapis tho

sounds like a true pleb

>>89458445
It's bait, there are a lot of SU art on Pixiv, so I'm sure that there are a public there like people said on the thread.

Japanese people aren't as obsessed with SJW as much as the west, so they don't get as easily triggered as the anon baiting you.

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>>89458879
That's because most Japanese have terrible English.

>>89458235
>Japanese being giant perverts

nothing new or interesting here

>>89458277
Some people just aren't man enough for the thicc anon, just leave him be

>>89458983
Holy fuck I would love to know what the response to that was

I feel like Japan views Steven Universe the way the US views an anime like Panty and Stocking.

Both are inspired by the other country's animation style.

>>89458983
That was a very entertaining read.

>>89450413
>what is yuri
maybe homosexuality in real life is taboo, but there's plenty of fanservice and romance to a certain extent enjoyed by the younger generation

>>89459478
I enjoyed the more obtuse homages to anime, like Garnet's Universe.

Hopefully we'll see more different animation styles and collaboration with japanese animators like Takafumi Hori.

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>>89458020
Holy shit, it's actually real

>>89458362

Precure will most likely outlive us

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>>89459712
>they're boys

>>89459766

I think that's just a mis-translation

They're probably "genderless"

>>89458598
The arts not actually like that. That's just some weird promo image.

>>89450317
The fuck does WBB stand for?

>>89459853
The bear cartoon, We Bare Bears

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>>89459840
>>89458598
The art is actually pretty cool in a weird way.

>>89450211
>he seemed a little confused because everyone was a lesbian but it wasn't really sexy
This shouldn't be surprising. You can't have it any other way in anime

>>89450582
Man why do they love Peridot so much? I like her but so many Japanese people I see are crazy about her.

>It's referred to as a "gentle" anime, although the kanji used could also mean "elegant" or "classy."
I guess that makes sense but it's really weird.

>>89450731
I think We Bare Bears is just very marketable and the designs are exactly what hits Japan's cute spot. All their cute stuff is designed like WBB.

>>89452277
>Not even remotely as popular as Gravity Falls, Star vs, or Loud House are.
I'd say it's exactly as popular as those actually. And I haven't seen too much Loud House fanart from them.

>>89460279
As a Japanese said on her Twitter, her Japanese VA sounds like a Japanese middle school girl.

>>89453800
>Why would you like a movie that deals with the same things you've enjoyed before

>>89450211
>and was surprised to hear it was a kid show and not something aimed at Western otaku.

It is though.

>>89457847
>A show like SU which plays magical girl shows straight would probably seem refreshing.
What. SU has an incredibly similar premise to Madoka. It was probably a main inspiration.

>>89458020
I think they're all boys even though it doesn't look it. Kinda funny since the gems are all girls.

>>89460483
Besides having the monsters being former magical girls, they don't have much in common.
Sugar even admitted that she never saw Madoka; Utena was an inspiration though.

>>89458002
Most people agree that Stronger Than You is one of the best parts of the series. The rest of Steven Universe has its ups and downs, most of it being easygoing stories with lots of character development, hidden lore, and subtle buildup to climactic moments. The song is one of those climactic moments, and it's even better if you have all the proper context; since you've seen it already, you've been spoiled on Garnet being a fusion of two gems (unless you didn't understand the significance of that) but you might like to see all the hints they had towards it in retrospect.

>>89460634
>(unless you didn't understand the significance of that)

It's rape isn't it.

In few words, SU on Japan is followed only by a bunch of geeks making fanarts and discussing the references. Sounds the same to America, minus the fixation with social justice bullshit

>>89459868
Never heard of it

>>89460190
It's very unique

>>89460384
>her Japanese VA sounds like a Japanese middle school girl
I guess I shouldn't question if that's noteworthy.

>>89450316
His left hand is giving me chlamydia

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>>89459766
>they're boys

>>89457968
>Biscuit from IBO

Biscuit died and he wasn't exactly the most popular character. Plus, he was just the token fat friend in a Gundam show.

Also, having fat thighs is still fat.

>>89459712
Oh boy get ready for Mary Sue to complain about the Patriarchy or something.

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>>89457796
>>89457898
>>89457968
>>89458187
>>89458277
>>89459286
Okay since anon didn't manage to hammer it into your skulls I will.

Japan, Korea, and most of Asia has a different definition of skinny. Pearl is deemed 'average'. They don't want strength in a girl, they want a lithe figure that can be attained only on a bowl of rice a day, something demure, petite, and looks like you'd snap them in half if you hug too hard.

Fat lips, large thighs, round waist. None of these are ideal.

>>89458020
The manga has been around for a while. Are you talking about an upcoming anime? I'd like to watch that some time.

>>89460848
People call asian people who make fanart of cartoon shows "westaboos"

Yeah, it's pretty niche, but the fanart that is made is nice.

>>89463552
Real life notwithstanding, a good amount of anime waifus will be designed with big tits and hips more in common with what you'd see from non-asian girls. And Pearl is definitely not average. She's way skinnier than average.

>>89450651
Rick is a hyper intelligent old man that fucks lot of alien bitches.

Is it really surprising to you that japs love him?

>>89452495
Gay is a cute phase boys in Japan go through before they have sex with men.

>>89463672
A good amount of "waifus" are average or flat-chested to appeal to ephebophiles.

>>89458983
Never seen a jap be anything but hard. Was a pleasure to read.

>>89463672
Look at the picture again. Pearl is about that size, and the stewardess in that picture is dangerously close to 'too fat'.

>>89450065
With that voice cast they choose?

HELL NO!

>Garnet with the typical Japanese Optimus Prime voice.
>Steven sounds like a man hold.

>>89450306
COULDN'T THEY REPLACE HER WITH RIE TANAKA?

>>89452495
Reason N.-5676329 Why Japan is a decaying society with rancid outdated morals and how much they are fucked in the head.

Pobresitos japonesios.

>>89463852
>and the stewardess in that picture is dangerously close to 'too fat'.
Definitely not. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>89458983
that was fucking hilarious absolutely BTFO

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>>89463984
>Japan has rancid outdated morals
>WEST #1
>DON'T MISGENDER ME, SHITLORD
Japan's holding it down until you and your kind follow through on the threat to move to Canada en masse, fgt.

>>89458983
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

>>89463984
>Japonesios
"Japoneses", you fucking faggot.

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>>89458983
Its things like these that make me grateful my best friend is japanese.

>>89458983
How will they ever recover?

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>>89464745
Anime is not real, anon, it can't be your friend.
And if it were, it would be doing more important things with its time, I guarantee you.

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>>89450211
>On a somewhat related note I showed him samurai jack and he said it was the kind of stuff his dad would like. But he lost his shit over aku and thought he was the coolest.

Good taste

>>89464048
I am. The airlines have a strict policy about being skinny as a rail. You show a sign of pudge, and you're out.

>>89458020
I've always thought that series needed an anime or at least to be in color.

>>89458235
That quote actually reflects the reality of lesbians.

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>>89464861
It's okay to want friends, anon.
But anime is not your friend.
Sure, we pick up some stuff from anime: japanese words, an insight into the culture. But it's just sequential images drawn by underpaid artists, it has no true form in the real world.
Get some help, buddy: you don't have be alone forever.

>>89450211
makes sense, sounds like a cool guy

>>89450211
I like the idea of a OVA like Steven Universe episode.

>>89464983
I really hope your just a troll and douchebags like you dont exist irl. But i literally have multiple screencaps of the email weve sent each other.

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>>89465448
>troll
It's called a joke, you fucking sperg.

>>89463907
The weird thing about Japanese voice acting is that dependent on character types, like crazy old pervert, dead japanese mother, hot blooded boy, tomboy, and the "dere" archtypes,

>>89455869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FkhBGH1io

>>89458983
I'm kind of surprised that people are cheering this guy on, because despite btfoing an SJW, that person is clearly not against progressives and feminism, but more is furious that a bunch of sheltered white chicks are getting those things wrong.

>>89466074
Anime tomboys are great

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>>89467381
I mean, don't get me wrong, the people that person is yelling at are genuinely terrible, but that there are different ways of reaching that conclusion.

>>89467624
This writer knows what the fuck they're talking about and I can respect that.

In the West (read: Amerifats), feminism has taken a turn wherein femininity is seen as a positive again. It's okay to be a woman that has lots of sex, or likes to stay at home, or takes care of the children, because those are feminine things, and feminine things are now cool again, and man wouldn't men be so much calmer if they worried less and gave into their desires to be more feminine because really who doesn't wanna be more feminine? i say this as a sizefag and an occasional dabbler into gentle femdom

In Japan, they haven't made it to that point yet. "Weaponized femininity" doesn't really exist in Japan, at least not in mass culture.

It's annoying because it really highlights the cultural disparity between Japan's anime and western culture. On one hand, anime gives you shit that modern western animation companies are too afraid/poor to put money on, shit that's too high concept for television shows but too serious/complex for cartoons. But on the other hand the nature of anime means that it'll always feel like a cultural window into another world, one where you'll always feel like a second class citizen at best. You'll never really get an anime that's exactly the way you'd want it, because the things that you want in an anime are likely distinctly different from what the faggots over on 2ch and the other Japanese message boards want, and ultimately they are the target audience. The fact that millions watch and enjoy anime in the rest of the world is seen as little more than a convenient coincidence.

This is changing bit by bit, but Japan is really fucking slow with progress.

>>89467898
I feel like it's also important to note that unless we want to completely stamp out any individual cultures (which is one of those times where it turns out the leftist/rightist thing is actually a circle and if you go far enough in either direction there's a new, nightmarish middle), Japanese progress might not be the same as American progress.

I do know what you mean about that disconnect, though the only examples that comes to mind are shounen.

>>89467898
>i say this as a sizefag and an occasional dabbler into gentle femdom

Yes thank you your opinion as a seasoned cuck is well respected and considered here at 4chan.

>>89468024
>implying those aren't the basic requirements for entry

>mfw people are discussing gender politics and feminism on /co/
Get the fuck out of my board you damn numale cucks.

>>89468199
You're posting in a SU thread, what were you expecting? These threads only belong in this place to keep those faggots at bay.

>>89468199
oldmanscreamsatcloud.jpg

>>89463552
This reeks of weeaboness and of someone who has never been to Japan.

>>89468493
>This reeks of weeaboness and of someone who has never been to Japan.
Said the pot to the kettle

>>89465042
there was two, Bismuth and Gem Harvest

>>89458020
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQX0KkqVSk
The manga existed before Steven universe

>>89450065
Nobody fucking knows this cartoon here in Japan, anon.
I myself know very little about this cartoon, and I bet 90% of Americans can't say this cartoon's title.
Those ToonBoom typed cartoons are in little demand outside of the US and Leaf land tbfh.
Digitally drawn animation is a hopeless failure culture, just give it up, and concentrate on making CG animation to the fullest.

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>>89469267
>tripfag
Of course it is.

>>89450065
Just checked 2ch and pixiv and other places, doesn't seem like it.

>>89457796
>2. Fat characters appear in Japanese works.

As the source and butt of jokes, usually fart related.

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>>89469231
Steven Universe isn't drawn digitally, it's hand animated in Korea.

>Digitally drawn animation is a hopeless failure culture
Tell that to all of the web-gen animators that are becoming more prominent in the japanese animation industry. several studios are slowly making a shift towards digital animation production anyway.

>>89458235
With some rare exceptions, in Japanese media lesbians exist only to turn on straight men. So even if the other anon's Japanese friend thinks that's horrible and all that stuff, it would still make sense for them to take a moment to realize "Oh, American anime is a bit different."

>>89459456
Most likely just blocking them and ignoring the post. Most tumblr faggots shy away from any real confrontation because they might be proven wrong.

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>>89450297
Korea animation fans love american animation

source:look at pixiv

Pretty crap thread, guys. It needed more gem-faggotry.

>>89460389
I mean, how could you enjoy the farm when you've seen Paris?

>>89458187
>First of all, the whole fat makes no sense because the Gems are made of light and can shapeshift.

Nigga shut up. We are talking about character designs are PERCEPTION. Nobody really gives a fuck about the background lore except for US, the shut-ins that know trivia facts because we pay attention to subtle details.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Japanese audience thought that Garnet was fat because her thighs are large as fuck.

I think it's safe to say that a lot of the "messages" are lost on Japanese culture. They haven't been infected by the PC bug the same way we have.

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>>89450065
what are Rose quartz's good for, /co/?

Protip: Rhymes with Beading

>>89472403
Leading?