Worst dads thread

>>89443249
OP's for letting him come on 4chan past his bedtime

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>>89443249

>>89443249
Ah, fuck it, I'll ask: what's so bad about Jerry? He's oafish and sometimes downright pathetic, but he isn't worse than Rick, despite the way the show depicts Rick as some brooding badass while Jerry is literally the worst person alive.
>Beth finds a way to blame Jerry for Rick going away
>It was Rick's choice to go away in the first place
Am I supposed to feel mad at Jerry and sympathy for Beth? Because Beth might be the worst animated sitcom wife ever. I hate her the way that other people hate Skyler from Breaking Bad.

>>89443891
I'd say the point where Jerry was well and truly solidified as a bad father was in "Look Who's Purging Now", where he feigned interest in connecting with Summer just to mooch some money off of her.

Also, despite Rick having a few heartwarming moments, I would not call him a good grandfather given all the shit he puts Morty through on a regular basis.

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What do I win?

>>89444067

he sacrificed himself for his grandson when he was falling through space and was going to be deleted out of the universe.

>>89443249

I feel like the show shits on him too hard. You'd swear the writers think he's hitler when really he's just kind of dim witted.

He was looking out for his family when he wanted to turn in rick. The show doesn't even acknowledge that at all.

>>89443249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksCUeTqs6k

jump to 10:40

>>89444245

because his wife would rather dump him out of the family than get rid of her father.

>>89444067
That moment stood out to me because it seemed inconsistent with his character in the first season. He's definitely pathetic, but we've also seen him grow a lot in the first season and do things that are heroic, even in season two a bit.

But every time this happens, it's immediately forgotten and suddenly he's this pathetic sack of shit again. I just get the impression that Dan Hermoine got butthurt at his actor and is lashing out by writing his character poorly, like what happened to Chevy Chase in Community.

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/Thread.

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>>89444134
The panel where Clarissa's drawing of Rippy Fangs is finally revealed makes me cry. Take Me To Work Day had fucking incredible art but the story was less pungeant, although the force field aspect of it was pretty genius.

>>89443249
Has the widespead portrayal of poor father figures in children's cartoons and TV in general had a negative impact on family bonds and social perception of fatherhood?
I often wonder if the people that write these things consider how impressionable their audience is. I care about artistic expression, but at the same time I wonder if the fact you're producing mass media that's proliferated to all children in America might warrant some sense of responsibility for the unrestricted power you have in forming their perceptions of reality? I've come to see the censorship and moral guidance legislation of the early 20th century as not just antiquated, prudish puritanism - but a well-intentioned expression of concern for the possible breadth of influence the new mediums that emerged in that period could have.

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>>89443891
Jerry's an idiot, but he's not as bad as Rick.

Rick's a fun character with some tragic moments, but I'm still not sure whether the rest of the family's loyalty to him at the end of season two was supposed to be seen as a positive thing, or self-destructively unhealthy after all that he's done.

>>89444280

that shouldn't really count as a positive deed for rick at all. It was just one of like a thousand alternate reality ricks.

>>89444378
>Take Me To Work Day
Was there more of the story after that?

>>89444453
The writers are just sending me mixed signals. For such an intelligent show, it seems like they're making a pretty obvious mistake in over-glorifying a character who, while sympathetic and fascinating, is also an extremely negative influence on the lives of everyone around him.

Honestly, it just kind of feels like they started to take Reddit's Rick worship too far and are pandering to people who want Rick to be a Gary Stu character that always comes out on top and anyone who disagrees with him is, like, totally retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jue7BG0zVwI

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>>89444424

Yes. It gave women the impression that their opinions are valuable.

>>89444347
I like how Martin was such a blatant piece of shit to Finn without ever actually raising his voice or insulting anyone. Just a deadbeat who tried to play everything off like he was your buddy.

>>89444596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUOcTIgI18

>>89444552
Not yet. BMTWD was finished in an actual physical comic, but there hasn't been anything after it. For some reason he's more focused on that abysmal Deep Fried series that his website is named after. It's a satirical comic that doesn't actually have anything to say. It certainly doesn't have any jokes.

>>89444585
It kind of depends on the tone of the episode. The one where Rick tries to commit suicide feels self-aware in just how toxic he is to everyone he cares about. And Beth clearly has dependency issues in being afraid to say or do anything that might make Rick leave, regardless of how much damage he does. Which they kind of build on in the finale with Rick realizing it.

So I guess I'll have to see where they take his development with the current story arc before giving a final opinion.

>>89443249
Does Rick know that Jerry becomes a bad-ass under pressure? He must, right? Or at least the council of Ricks must know. They must have destroyed enough worlds to find that out.
Or is it just Rick's Jerry that always pulls through?

>>89444773
I wonder if they ever plan to bring back Morty's original family in some form.

>>89444475
64

>>89444747
>So I guess I'll have to see where they take his development with the current story arc before giving a final opinion.
Yeah, me too. I'm just not as optimistic on this cliffhanger as I was on last season's (far less urgent) cliffhanger.

But I would love for them to utterly wow me and make me feel like an idiot for doubting them in this thread.

>>89444807
Probably when they do the Evil Morty multiverse finale

>>89444280
So Rick wants Morty to be better than him, but he also want him to stop being a insecure little wimp that actually kinda a good message, Rick is not perfect, but he truly believes that Morty can be better

>>89444134
I suppose that's kind of an obvious answer.

>>89444773
>>89444807

If they ever bring Universe 1 Jerry back I'd imagine there would be a moment where jerry steps up to Rick and wins.
We haven't had an episode like that yet

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My dad

>>89444817
Also it looked like that was the only possibility where Morty fell. So in the only instance where Morty was about to die Rick was willing to sacrifice himself for him.

I can't find the comic, but I remember this one where a kid invents time travel and became his own dad. He realized this and became an abusive dick to try and stop himself from inventing time travel.

So he made time travel just to spite his shitty dad, became his shitty dad, and then acted like a shitty dad so he won't go back in time to become his shitty dad.

>>89445083
that's awful

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>>89445083

>>89445083
Wouldn't he be able to remember that he invented time travel out of spite in the first place?

>>89444329
Season 1 jerry is not the same as season 2, they switched dimensions. You can see a real change after that episode

>>89444329
Rick purposefully sent Jerry to the wedding. Rick wanted to get caught, or at least take the risk, or he had another motive. I want to believe that everything that Rick does, he does with intention. That is what season 1 and 2 taught of regarding his character. Jerry got sucked into the beta machine. That episode with Jerry as the sissy slug-- what could not be worse than that? And yet at the end of the episode Jerry's beta tendencies still produced a good outcome for the family. In season three, Jerry will be eaten by the machine, and nearly destroyed, but will end up being integral to the solution. This is why I'm so excited about season three!

>>89444935
Yeah. I never said it was a perfect story.

>>89445152
Maybe he was from a different timeline.

>>89444134
So did he really rape, or is it a joke. I see this posted often on /co/ but I don't know where it's from to look it up myself.

>>89445797
He did rape, yes.

>>89445797
>So did he really rape
Yes

>I see this posted often on /co/ but I don't know where it's from to look it up myself.
Clarissa from What is Deep Fried. Learn to google or lurk more, you hopeless moron.

>>89445040
My condolences , anon

>>89445973
Fuck you, don't pity me asshole

>>89445045
Not that anon, but Rick says he only does things when he's sure, so any of them would have done it. If you watch, the only times Rick doubts himself -or his other selves- are a direct result of Morty or Summer fucking things up.

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I don't think it's even possible to fuck up harder as a dad than him.

>>89444733
Im surpised this wasn't posted first and ended the thread right then and there
This guy was seventy diffrent shades of bad

>>89444599
where's the lie tho

>>89443249
I wouldn't call him one of the worst dads because he's a better dad than he is a person.

>>89443587
He actually became a pretty decent dad after losing all of the clones (which is pretty good arc-writing), so I wouldn't call him one of the worst.

>>89444733
He's not just one of the worst. He IS the worst. Fuck Clay and fuck the guy who cancelled the show.

>>89444747
A big part of the show is how Rick really lucked out by having his family be so psychologically-damaged. Jerry has self-esteem issues, Beth has daddy issues, Morty has an aura of nervousness, and Beth easily forgives those in her life.

Whilst the season 2 finale was total shit, I do appreaciate the writers making the audience choose who's the better person out of a straight-up asshole and a family of mental issues.

>>89446226
1) he didn't consider the primarch's as his true sons, but he never rebuffed them for calling him "father" because he thought the conflict was unnecessary
2) the only one that he explicitly fucked up with was Lorgar
a lot of the traitor primarch's seemed destined to turn before he found them again, like Angron or Konrad Curze

>>89444733
came here to post this

>>89444424
Yes, the media are conspiring to destroy the public image of the nuclear family.

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>>89443249
You won't find worse dad than Shake

And he doesn't even have a penis

>>89448097

That thing wasn't his son. It wasn't even his wife's son.

It was even older than he is.

>>89448128
But he didn't know that, if you act shitty to a person who you consider your child that makes you a shitty father

>>89443587
One generation late there, buddy

>>89444401
Literally the only right answer.

Though I'd love to have Peter sit his fat ass on my face and let out a nasty fart

>>89448276
Well I guess being a good driver doesn't make up for being socially dull

>>89444453
>Rick's a fun character with some tragic moments, but I'm still not sure whether the rest of the family's loyalty to him at the end of season two was supposed to be seen as a positive thing, or self-destructively unhealthy after all that he's done.

Honestly, my money's on "self-destructively unhealthy". That's the vibe I've been getting from the Smith family throughout the course of the show, and that includes the family's relationship with Rick.

>>89450449
Yeah, like, Jerry was a dick about it but he was absolutely right in the season 2 finale.

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>>89443249

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And his father too

Don't forget we have alt Jerry right now. Our original jerry wasnt a coward, just a little dumb.

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>>89443249

>>89445040
cut him off
i cut off most of my family
its funny because they are old and going to die alone

>>89450807
>this meme again
Manta did nothing wrong.

>>89443249
You need to be 18+ to post on this site, Rick.

>>89451889
>Rick

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>>89450522
You serious nigger?
He's the best dad

>>89444453
The whole schiit of the show is that Rick is aware he is a cartoon and knows his universe will only continue to exist if he's entertaining the audience. Same way how in the car battery episode zap kept the stamp boxes that rick wouldn't collapse his. Because of this realization (and constant 4th wall breaking conversations with the audience while the other characters fail to see it, like beth going "i dont get it when rick talks to the camera) he is perpetually drunk and in conflict with his existence.

>>89444134
You made me curious, so I had to read 'em.

Fuck you.

>>89450387
Also 5 years of forcing his son to drive unlicensed is a hell of a lot of gross criminal negligence.

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Microwave the Baby

>>89451889

Get back to work, Jerry. No one wants their boss c-catching them on 4chan now, do they?

>>89450522
nope

>>89451821
also no

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>>89445040
My dad is also the worst. I feel your pain.

>>89455350
i'll give Greg because that was bait, but Goku is a horrible father anon

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>>89443249

>>89443249
>doesn't want to sacrifice his family's safety for his wife's abandonment issues
>somehow bad

>>89444733
>Meet me in my study

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>>89445797
See for yourself

>>89452108
He makes Peter Griffin look like a model father.

>Yesterday have a thread about how Goku and BATMAN are bad dads
>Today another thread about bad /co/ dads
You guys have daddy issues

>>89443891
Why do people hate Skyler? She was just trying to keep the family together and as normal as she could with a meth kingpin for a husband.

>>89443587
He's getting kinda better. His dad was much worse.

>>89445797
>>89457464

This has all the comics except for the last one, see for yourself.

http://imgur.com/gallery/lZfnq

>>89444733
>>89444134

those are the only true answers

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If you watched JLA ending you know it's true.

>>89444733
Somehow him being tragic only makes him less sympathetic and more of a shitbag, to me.

>>89448276
His motivation is pretty questionable, but he was pretty chill with his son when it wasn't about driving shit. Like, he literally tells Takumi to do whatever he wants after he finishes school and even suggest taking over the shop. And the broken engine scene is literally one of the best bonding scenes in all Mongolian woodcarvings.

>>89458420
Skyler was a dismissive bitch who henpecked her husband. And don't say "It's his own fault" because we all know what happens to good men who stand up to their wives. The wives sick divorce court on them to screw them over LEGALLY. So fuck off with the immediate machismo.

That said Skyler was not only a bitch, but an ungrateful one. She cheated on her husband and rubbed it in his face to force him to leave the house. It's funny how Gus instructed Walter with the...

"A man provides even if he's not loved or appreciated."

Line of his. If you ask me, if a man isn't appreciated or loved for his efforts? Fuck that shitty family. Family members aren't immune from being cast out in my opinion.

The other problem with Skyler is her hypocrisy. She got into Walt's criminal business because she was nosy and arrogant, but when shit hit the fan? She played innocent victim the instant she was given the chance so that only Walt would get the blame. Yes, Walt gave her a literal Get out of Jail card, but it's still obnoxious how this cunt loved to pretend to be strong but relied on being a "domestically abused wife" image to save her own ass. Even though she wanted to prove she was just as cunning at the criminal game. Fuck that cunt.

The irony is that her actress said "Men just don't like a strong woman." God am I sick of that bullshit. Women aren't strong. They're nothing without men and the only reason women seem strong in fiction is because WEAK beta male simps write them or as /co/ calls them Nu-Males. That and bitches.

>>89458688
Okay so maybe Bad Dad material but not Worst Dad.

>>89458716
>if a man isn't appreciated or loved for his efforts? Fuck that shitty family

Anyone else remember the scene when Skyler starts knifing Walter and Walter's son tells the cops "My DAD is knifing my mother, help!" What a fucking little son of a bitch. He sees his mother being violent and takes her side without question. What a literal Mama's Boy.

Really wish that little shit was killed off mid-series. Or better yet, have him be referred to as an aborted baby because he was going to be born with mental disabilities.

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>>89458556

>>89443587
Winner
The Dad from Allen Gregory was the worst.

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>>89458420
>>89458716
>The irony is that her actress said "Men just don't like a strong woman."

Such a cop out. Carmella Soprano was a great character because the writers never pretended she wasn't as deeply flawed a person as the other characters, just in her own way.

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>>89458758
>you try to get your son to like your hobbies when he's young, but fine with him doing whatever he wants when it doesn't work out
>get him a decent job and start saving money for his graduation and future adult life
>he finally starts getting into what you love and races people
>always give him good advice if he asks
>he screws up and kill the engine of your favorite car
>you cheer him up because he's obviously upset and frustrated
>call GODDAMN KEIICHI TSUCHIYA and ask him to use his connections to get a GODDAMN PROFESSIONAL RACING 4A-GE ENGINE HOLY FUCKING SHIT DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS GODDAMN 11.5K RPM JUST GOOGLE IT
>then just give him the car because he's really enjoying racing so far
I mean, Bunta has some downsides (like you know, teaching kid to drive at very young age), but come on, he's awesome compared to other people ITT.

>>89458716
This was going okay until the ass pained last paragraph.

>>89459082
Nah

It's all true

>>89458801
This. I hated the fucking brat so much already but that just sealed it.

>>89458801
We'll isn't he retarded? Obviously he'd make the wrong choice in that situation :^)

>>89444624
That's not a picture of Superman.

>>89458801
The one character I never liked the whole series had to be Walter Junior. He was a smartass to both his parents, pretty ungrateful,and just a general shit stain.

>>89458946
Think 'Bowser' or 'Ox King'-style Bad Dad.

>>89447820
He fucked up with a lot more then just Lorgar. Angron may have been destined to turn, but Emps could have stood a better chance at keeping him on his side if he just gave the slightest fuck about Angron's war. Instead he let the rich assholes slaughter Angron's entire extended gladiator family without bothering to lift a finger because hey, got mine (primarch), fuck you. Prospero burned because Emps had a retarded plan to try and starve chaos by denying it existed and later doubled down on that when he should have realized it was time for a more nuanced approach. All Perturabo wanted was a little recognition for his genius and all anybody, including the emperor, was willing to do was spit in his face while continuing to jerk Girlyman and Dorn off with both hands.

>>89458716

>"Men just don't like a strong woman."
>Using this excuse for being a widely disliked character.
>Thinking men not wanting a strong yet nurturing woman.

What would you even call this? Reverse misogyny?