Ghost Rider #3

>>89403123
>let's have the first arc of this solo ongoing be about a bunch of completely unrelated characters that Smith doesn't even write particularly well
Every scene with Robbie is great, but that's only 1/3rd of every issue so far.

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Post your tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjgHSkb2pEE

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I think Eli probably knows.

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Anyone here play Let It Die?

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Look on the bright side, Cho. He could've teleported you to Hell. Just straight up Hades.

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>>89403169
I think this scene makes the last two issues of build-up worth it.

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CAR PLATINUM!

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This isn't even my Final Form!

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Only Bros and Hoes. And you're neither, Cho.

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See, it's because of humanizing claptrap like this that Robbie can't just evaporate every gangbanger in a 10-mile radius. It's the end of Engines of Vengeance all over again!

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Cuck you, Amadeus! Right down to your kisses and your cars. You should have stuck to snake girls.

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Eli, you probably killed your own brother. How directly is still up in the air, but that's about as low as anyone can get if said sibling wasn't a total super bastard.

>>89403632
OP still here?

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Gambling addiction, maybe?

>>89403277
Jesus god that's a pretty creepy monster design.

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Ah, covered in fetid white organic discharge.

Just another Friday night for X-23!

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>>89404153
Well now it's part Korean. So there.

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All right. Now here's a surprise cameo if I ever did see one.

>>89404130
>Fat guy riding a rascal

>>89404212
And Jonah continues to hate spiders

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Down, Cho.

>>89403522
Didn't Robbie's boss try to stiff him his paycheck in Engines of Vengeance? And now this. What a jerk.

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>>89403922
Sorry about that.

>>89403632
> New Fantastic Four
> Casino monster

Circle of Four 2!

>>89404264
Wasn't this supposed to be a Ghost Rider book?

Thanks, OP.

>>89404299

first arc is apparently setting up a new team book

Jesus.

Why can't Robbie just have a book?

He gets, like, 2 pages each issue.

Come on.

>>89403367
kek

>>89403503
I hope the end of this arc has Silk, Laura and Amadeus offering Robbie a teamup, and he just responds with "get outta my neighborhood".

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That's all for this month! Next time, Robbie contends with the girl who kept trying to mate with Peter Parker and gets down to some non-supernatural monster hunting.

>>89404221
And sneaking a glance!

>>89404230
He really ought to stop giving them money then.

>>89404258
It's a tough neighborhood, friend. But maybe after nearly getting shot to death, he's trying to genuinely stick to the straight and narrow.

>>89404294
True enough.

>>89404299
>>89404378
Salvation by Cameo?

>>89404364
You're Welcome!

>>89404744
Same here.

>>89404723
Hopefully the next two issues will be the ones where he demolishes stuff for real. I know Felipe wants to tell a compelling human drama, but come one, give us some of that old metalhead ultra violence!

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>>89403384
>the car can just spontaneously appear where Robbie is
[Born This Way]!

This rubs me as kinda an awful idea, I get wanting to set up a team through a book, but so fucking early into the book? This shit actually harming my interest in the book and I like Robbie.

>>89404854
There weren't any solicits for a new FF or Circle of Four book, so unless this arc was Smith's idea and is doing this purely because he likes the idea of doing so, I can't picture why Marvel wanted this team up.
>>89403367
And yeah, that's pretty good.

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>>89404837
Except, you know, it's not insanely situational and limited in targeting.

Seriously, she's cute and all, but Kira's sister will never be as rad or get as much action as her original universe counterpart.

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>>89403484

Can this finally be a GHOST RIDER book yet? I don't give a shit about the Affirmative Action Patrol at all.

>>89403484
>Laura looking this adorable
It ain't right I tell you.

>>89403605
>>89403632
Oh my God they made X-23 so fucking lame!

>>89403522
Bye ghost rider

>>89404212
>Moon
>not Analog
He is shocked alright

>>89404232
Or you could just have a person that can teleport take it somewhere else. Or use your supposedly 8th smartest brain to make a teleporter to shove it somewhere safeish. Or call in technologically based superheroes to help.
But nah. Let the things spiral out of control until you let it get spider-man powers which alone means that it can take out 99% of the superhero community before we factor in regeneration and Hulk powers.

>>89404258
>>89404258
He actually IS trying to be on the straight and narrow. I feel like you didn't pay attention to the previous issue where he came to meet them so that he could possibly convince his former gangmates to give up a life of crime.

>>89403210
How does Robbie not know what a Hulk is?

>>89407414
He probably knows the old Hulk. He presumably does not give two shits about keeping track of new hulks nor has the time.

Wow Im so glad I could read this GHOST RIDER BOOK MARVEL. Seriously, fuck you. I want to support Robbies book, but Im not paying for this shit until its actually about Ghost Rider

This shit is so canceled by #6. No one cares about these other fuckheads. People read Ghost Rider for Ghost Rider.

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>>89407531
>>89407578
The book isn't looking very good once FF shit stops either.

Has anyone confirmed if the team up was editorial mandate or not?

>>89404189
It was part Korean when absorbed Cho's powers

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>>89405981
>Affirmative Action Patrol

Laura's been around for over a decade and is easily one of Marvel's most popular and well known legacy characters. Cho's also been around for years as a supporting character, most notably for Hercules, so I don't really feel like he's filling a quota or part of affirmative action, even more so now that Jen has taken up the main mantle. The Spider family is ridiculously large now, and if you've only read Silk from Slott then I can totally understand the disdain, but she's been great in her solo and I'm happy to see her here.

That being said, even while I'm a huge fan of all these characters I can agree that this team up shouldn't have been the opening arc, especially at the expense of Robbie who is by and large the newest of these characters and could still benefit a great deal from some additional fleshing out and development. This will especially feel like a waste if we don't even get a New FF title, since then this will probably be the only time we ever see these guys interact.

The storyline is fine, Robbie and his supporting cast are depicted well alongside his central conflict with Eli, there just isn't enough of it in each issue in favor of monster hunting. I can kind of see where there head is at when they want a bunch of guest stars to prop the book up and bring in fans from other series to try and increase sales and visibility, but I think Robbie's story if given the proper time and focus is a much bigger draw and they only risk alienating his fans by focusing so much on cameos.

Tempering my expectations, so long as he gets at least 2-3 trades worth of issues past this FF stuff, I'll be happy. Hopefully they give Smith that chance.

>>89403299
>punches car in the air
>Robbie lets car phase through him

Its subtle, but a really cool trick.

>>89405483
>>89404854
I think it's just an extended Fantastic Four reference, as there haven't been any solicits for a team up book with these four. Though yes, it is weird that one would start their book with a team up.

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>>89408385
But that looks awesome.

>>89403367
>he no-sold it completely
YES

YES ROBBIE
YES

>>89404264
Where's Reyes?

Isn't this the Ghost Rider book?

>>89409489
I'm just surprised the promo didn't lie

>>89403367
>B-bakana!
>>89403123
I can't believe we're only getting to Silk in the second half of the book.

Robbie only meets all 3 of the team members by the Last issue of the team up.

It's so fucking weird, because the pacing and structure specifically feels like it's the jumping off point for a full series, like an origin story for a team basically, but there's no FF solicits.

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This looks a little fucked to me.

>>89404232
>mutant
Triggered.

>>89408385
>Not wanting Ghost Rider super mode Robbie
Fuck you.

Still on this shitty team. Pass.

>>89408385
Kurosaki!!!!

I can only hope that 5 is a giant upswing in quality. Robbie's supporting cast has been left in the dust. Even Gabe has been absent.

That said, Robbie assuming Chulk was with Hyde was a nice touch.

>>89403605
How does Cho not know who Angel is? She's wearing a Wolverine outfit, he can't just assume it's a random guy called Angel, it's very clearly the X-men who Cho would very obviously know

>>89414006
>Robbie has hell Satan powers
>Laura is dating Angel (obviously not a real angel like the real ghost Rider/spirit of vengeance)
>this is all nothing but a coincidence

I'm surprised but not upset that all of Robbie's foes so far have been genetic biological freakazoids and no mystic stuff has gone down.

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>>89408385
So, when are we getting Shin Ghost Rider Type Deadheat?

>>89414006
To be fair she is in the middle of LA. There could totally be a ton of people named angel to pick from.

>>89414121
When the next toy push happens

>>89414647
I am not gonna lie, I would pay for some Ghost Rider toys.

>>89414647
>>89414745
>ghost Rider could be toyetic as fuck but parents aren't going to buy their kids hell based superhero products

Why am I imagining a "black ice" ghost Rider inspired by hell literally freezing over?

>>89414784
They sold toys about monsters all the time

>>89403123
Man, I really don't like the new costume. The mask is fine, but everything else is too anime. Not even in a good way.

>>89414869
Monsters != demons and demons != Christian hell/satan based demons

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>>89404232
Should have been Mania.

>>89414784
>ghost riders in an infinite array of flame colours

>>89416242
i'm still holding my hopes for a team-up with her.

>>89414745
Best we can hope for is the Moore design getting a Legends release in a few years.

>>89408385
...his head isn't a skull anymore!

>>89422443
>...his head isn't a skull anymore!
DROPPED

>>89423985
I'm having flashbacks to 2014 when ANGR was first announced along with Ms Marvel

>>89424028
I miss 2014.

>>89424301
Remember when everyone hated ANGR's previews, and then when it actually came out people obsessed over it enough that it was storytimed to the point it was almost omnipresent for the first few months?

>>89424394
Remember all the KamalaxRobbie shipping we did to the point that when SecretLove got announced, it got stickied?

Good times.

>>89424433
Remember back when Marvel was actually able to prove /co/ wrong, and our complaints about ethnic teen legacy heroes was invalidated by the comics actually being good?

So wouldn't this have worked better as the current storyline for the main hulk book and the arc ending with "For more Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider check out Ghost Rider coming MM/YYYY"

Cut out some of the excess stuff the focuses on Robbie himself and save it for issues 1 and 2 of the ghost rider book proper and just focus wholly on Hulk in LA teaming up with the rest of Not!CircleofFour with Robbie as a reappearing local threat that outclasses everyone except hulk.

>>89424433
> we

who the fuck on /co/ was doing that? Anybody with a brain could see that Robbie and Kamala have zero chemistry.

>>89424615
>who the fuck on /co/ was doing that?
Like every fucking thread had RobbiexKamala shippers. And before you say it, no, tumblr never gave a flying fuck about Robbie let alone the RobbiexKamala ship.

>>89424615
>Robbie and Kamala have zero chemistry
they have literally never interacted outside of Battleworld

>>89424538
I think they were trying to push Robbie as the "leader" of the not!Circle of four

>>89424538
I'm starting to think this was originally proposed to be an arc in either Cho's book or Laura's and got shoved into Ghost Rider after the creative teams on those books rejected using their books for it

>>89414784
Ghost Rider had a toyline back in the 90's though, and if a general MU toyline lasts long enough it inevitably includes at least one Ghost Rider figure somewhere down the line

>>89426521
It's just, it's a 4 issue arc, and Silk wasn't even introduced until the third issue and won't meet Robbie until the last one.

It clearly has the pacing of an origin, given how little will have been accomplished by the end, but there's no new Co4 book.

Also fuck, Robbie's first ever appearance outside his own book is going to be in Gwenpool.

>>89403384
>can control it remotely without driving it
>Spontaneously summoning it to him out of thin air
>selectively intangible

The car is straight up a stand.

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>>89416242
>>89404232
It should have been Kaine.

>>89426548
>Also fuck, Robbie's first ever appearance outside his own book is going to be in Gwenpool.
WHAT!?

>>89427833
See
>>89425265

Honestly, I'm eager to see what Gwenpool is going to say about him, given she's become sort of a reader/audience surrogate. Maybe gain some insight into what editorial thinks of Robbie.

So Robbie can:
>teleport to his car
>teleport while driving the car using hell portals
>summon the car to his side
>phase through his car
>drive his car remotely, even outside of it
>car can do all kinds of crazy shit like propel itself into the air with flames and explosions
>can tank a punch from the Hulk with literally no give, not losing any ground
>can't be cut by Laura's claws (keeping in mind she doesn't have adamantium though)
>general (hell)fire kinesis
>some sort of minor metal kinesis given how he wields the chains and blades
>literally send people straight to hell

Does anyone have that page by the way? Eli and the Russian mobster I think?

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>>89416242
>>89427663

Everyone keeps talking about replacing Silk, but Cho really, really should've been Lyra.

>>89403422
That's metal as fuck.

>>89403367
Hehehehehehe

>>89428098
Laura has adamantium claws. She just doesn't have a metal skeleton like wolverine.

>>89428254
But doesn't hellfire cause explosions when contacting adamantium?

>>89426548

I think he was in that Squirrel Girl OGN.

>>89428350
I've never heard of that before but I'm open to it happening. Sounds like the sort of thing writers/editors would tend to forget to mention.

>>89428358
Her current ongoing? Unbeatable?

>>89404264
>called in SHIELD
Isn't Laura a wanted felon again these days or something?

>ghost rider is never in any marvel NOW promos
>this awful team up
is Marvel intentionally trying to kill him?

>>89429518
No, the recent Squirrel Girl graphic novel. Same creative team as the ongoing though.

>>89428350
it does but nobody remembers that. But I don't think ghost racer is made of hellfire. He's not a true spirit of vengeance .

>>89403422
>vomiting lava
Holy shit, also that Cho in the fifth panel is a reaction image just waiting to happen.

>>89403123
THE SOLICITATION PROMISED GABE VS GABBY THIS IS BULLSHIT REEEEEEEE

>>89428152
I'd kill for a Mania, Scarlet, and GR team up. It'd be better than this

>>89433674
>believing solicits
>ever
wew lad

>>89433674
Do you really want Gabe and Gabby to fight? He'd die in one second.

>>89434628
He hides it well but he's got that gorilla tard strength inside him

>>89431223
He's powered by sick satan powers though, if anything he'd lean even stronger towards hellfire than the spirit of vengeance "real" ghost riders.

>>89403123