She gets it

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>>89358050
Wallflower says hello.

>>89358050
I hated how Remender's characters all tend to have the same voice. It's like Bendispeak, just Blasé Edition.

>>89358050
Wait ... X stands for something besides a reference to the X gene?

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>>89358069
Wallflower says hello.

>>89358939
It stands for XTREEEME!!

>>89358817
I always hate how Remender keep stressing that killing made things worse, but never actually showed what he alternative solutions to problems were.

>>89358939
The X gene was a nice idea in the 60s when genetic and DNA seemed new but it's really retard nowadays to have 1 gene behind every mutations.

>>89358939
X stands for the eXtra power they have

Xavier?
Pretty sure most of them are pretty dedicated to him.

>>89358050
>From a robot.

>>89359518
I fucking laughed when I saw this post man was thinking the exact same fucking thing hahahaha

>>89360846
Yes. She is saying that she is the only one dedicated to banging Professor Xavier.

>>89358050
Eh, not really.

She came off as basically a psychopath under Remender, and she's the one responsible for militarizing the X-Men. The only reason they started killing their enemies and acting like a military force was because she fucked things up so bad that they were forced to fight all their enemies at once to protect a massive population of depowered mutants that could no longer defend themselves.

She basically stabbed them, pushed them in the water, and then whined about it when they fought back against the sharks that came to eat them. I know writers wanted to get her past the shit Bendis did to her, but acting like she did nothing wrong and the X-Men were somehow to blame for all this shit wasn't the way to do it. It just makes her look like either a coward or a person with zero empathy. Neither of which should really be in the Avengers.

>>89359518
>>89359518
I fucking laughed when I saw this post man was thinking the exact same fucking thing hahahaha

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>>89358952

>>89358817
That wasn't an issue with his Uncanny Avengers run, but it was a problem with Venom and both Captain Americas. Flash, Steve, and Sam all seemed to read off as the same stream-of-conciousness style.

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>>89358952
DELET THIS

>>89358050
Wasn't she being influenced to be an utter cunt to put an evil plan into motion.

>>89360794
That's retarded

>>89358050
I've tried to get into Remender's Uncanny Avengers.
But I quickly got the feeling that he holds contempt for the X-Men franchise at large and it became a pretty unpleasant read.
I still don't understand why people were excited for him to take over the franchise. To me he seemed ill-suited to write the main-line X-titles.

I don't even dislike Remender. Actually Deadly Class is my favourite comic out right now.

>>89361470
That's why Stan Lee's X-Men comics sold like garbage and got cancelled.

>>89358050
As a Scarlet Witch fan I remember how glad I was to see her in an important ongoing book after being basically banned from comics since 2005.

Then this happened.

I get that Remender wanted to make Wanda and Rogue huge jackasses in the first issue so they would eventually learn their lesson and work together but FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

>>89360736
It is a gene that causes mutations elsewhere in the DNA

>>89361500
>I still don't understand why people were excited for him to take over the franchise

Because Uncanny X-Force was the last time an x-book was good and he wrote that. I mean, it couldn't have been worse than Bendis, right?

>>89361525
And then at the end of the run he was forced to do that retcon so Wanda wasn't even a mutant or Magneto's daughter, so it was all for nothing anyway.

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Remender posted his original pitch a while back (just a collection of stock art of the characters he wanted). It's clear he wanted it to be more of a continuation of Uncanny X-Force and to have more prominent X-Men characters than it did.

I don't know how he got stuck with Havok as the lead.

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>>89361579
>Because Uncanny X-Force was the last time an x-book was good
Nah.

>>89361637
>Legion
Who? Xavier never had a son.

>>89361631
Deep symbolism of being the guy that was forced to work as a government stool mutant now working as an Avengers stool mutant and the brother of mutant terrorist.

>>89361525
What was worse was in issue #9 where he used Scarlet Witch as a mouthpiece to argue that Alex's speech in #5 was right all along and mutants aren't really a people. No wonder X-fans were out for her blood (it may be unfair to judge a character by one writer but it happens all the time).

After the confused mess that was her roles in Children's Crusade and Avengers vs. X-Men, Wanda needed careful handling to "fix" her after all those years of being out of the comics and The Worst Mutant In the World. Remender can do good work with lesser-used characters but he nearly ruined Wanda all over again.

>>89361748
Where did it all go so wrong?
Bendis started it of course, but then it got aggravated so much.

>>89360866
underrated.

>>89361748
>Alex's speech in #5
which was actually Guido's speach from PAD's early X-Factor works

>>89360937
>She came off as basically a psychopath under Remender, and she's the one responsible for militarizing the X-Men
Found the scottfag.

>>89361812
What happened was after "no more mutants" the X-books did years and years of stories showing the horrible things that happened as a result of Wanda's curse, but they couldn't actually use her because the Avengers office had dibs on her.

It took years for the Children's Crusade story to be greenlit and two more years for it to finish and by that time she had been out of the ongoing comics for so long that nobody knew who she was except Crazy Evil Mutant Curser.

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Wanda is super militant and open for mutant causes in Avengers books and it's great

>>89361958
Is she going to jam her gloved hands inside his ass?

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>>89361827
True, though Guido's speech was partly a parody of political correctness (back in the first PC craze of the late '80s/early '90s)

>>89360736
not really. a gene can act as a trigger, drastically changing the effects of other genes. it's quite plausible that some "x" gene could cause a cascade effect and cause wildly different changes to people with different genes.

the silly part is that messing with your genes at all could somehow give you laser vision.

>>89362082
Up until "Genetically Challenged", this seemed legit.

>>89361847
...It's an objective fact.

Wanda caused the entire Decimation storyline. All that Utopia stuff, all the X-Force stuff, etc, wouldn't have been necessary without No More Mutants.

She is acting upset in the OP image about something she caused.

wanda a shit, what else is new

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>>89362082
This is hilarious.

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>>89362661
Hard to believe Virginia came from her brain.

>>89361366
It was, Wanda's on the same tirade any of his protagonists you mentioned hop into.

May not have been AS severe than those, but you can just flip Uncanny X-Force as well to see everything just change where the speech bubbles are pointed to.

>>89361958
It's ok, Wanda. I like 'em too.

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>>89362185
>the silly part is that messing with your genes at all could somehow give you laser vision.
Celestials did it.

>>89361470
No joke, that's the actual original explanation. Not Xavier, not the X gene, EXTRA power.
What >>89361513 said is true, with the exception, from what I've see, of the Juggernaut.

>>89362185
>the silly part is that messing with your genes at all could somehow give you laser vision.
reality altering math encoded in the X-gene.
Blame the Celestials.

>>89360794
To me, my E-men!

>>89360896
The queen of the Sh'iar empire would like to disagree.

>>89364083
>Not C-Men

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>>89361407
She said that before the mind-control.

>>89361631
Is that the Mar-vell?

>>89364774
>Texas Dean of Robotics
Ha, that was like Sublime before Sublime was a thing!

>>89362551
The world didn't need more mutants. Honestly the world doesn't need any mutants. They need to be cured.

>>89364774
source on that comic?

>>89362274
Think that's the point. In fact, that's the biggest problem with Political Correctness as a whole. It may have some good ideas, but ultimately it goes too far or goes in the wrong direction entirely.

>>89366666
Waiting for the T(rade): The Comic Thing, Super-satan.

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>>89366666
http://waitingforthet.tumblr.com/
Probably the best webcomic about comics in the world.

>>89366217
1) no mutants means the celestials nuke earth as an experiment that failed to produce results.
2) humans needs to be exposed to as many superpowered being as possible so that when they awaken their psionic potential in a thousands years they don't accidentally zero sum.

>>89360736
the x-gene gives you a super power.
and considering how many universal 'super power suppressor' devices have been invented over the years, it's clear that all superpowers derive from SOMETHING baseline.

>>89362185
>somehow give you laser vision.
it's unstoppable force from the unstoppable cytorrak dimension

>>89361708
Yeah, if he had one that kid would probably be crazy powerful.

>>89358050
I'd like her to polish something else hurhur. And by that I mean Vision.

>>89362185
The silly part is that one gene turns some people blue, turns some into frogs, gives some wings or creates portals to punch dimension in their corneas or belly-buttons.
They should just retcon the x-gene as an outdated, badly understood science, which is fairy realistic as far as real science goes.
What if x-gene created a protein that somehow attracts inter-dimensional symbiotic organisms?

>>89367438
Voodoo Shark/10.

>>89366771
>>89366780
thank you bros, i allways forget how's it named
and im pretty happy for my first quads

>>89369399
No, you see it makes perfect sense. By admitting that initial voodoo shark was bad you make the reader more sympathetic. Then you replace that voodoo shark with a new one (symbiotic inter-dimensional organism) which would sound more plausible with regards to modern biological science. Yes, there's still a shark, but you don't have to explain the new one, because it's complicated trans-dimensional science and that is a confusing, untapped ground. When future generations start complaining you make a new shark, that makes sense in accordance to future discoveries.
Cue Beast drawing some diagrams on the blackboard and shit. Problem solved!
Summers' symbiote's connect them to punch dimension. Wolverine's and Deadpool's to cancerverse, hence the regeneration. Kurt's to *bamf*dimension or some shit. Legion has a lot of those things, which is why he has so many powers, yet is crazy.

>>89369929

Exactly. You see, modern audience are too smart to accept that some alien entity somehow affected the human body to give it abilities beyond the normal, so instead it should be something clever like alien entities somehow affecting the human body to give it abilities beyond the normal.

This guy gets it.

>>89371393
It's just that the explanation of it being cause by a gene makes no sense. And strange organisms living in between dimensions and feeding off of the energy exchanged between the two is perfectly logical.

>>89372609
so, organisms exist that can interact with other dimensions and have that interaction expressed in strange ways. But human mutants can't be the ones that do that because?

>>89358050
That's why X-Men always work better when they're the oppressed underdogs. With them always being on the brink of extinction and always being exterminated, it's easy to forget they're some of the biggest pieces of shit humanity could offer.

>>89364828
Noh-Varr was supposed to go back to the mantle after the whole Protector thing... then Carol happened.

>>89372977
Because a gene is something that organisms proteins are based on. One gene can't make proteins that shoot lasers, teleport you and so on. Plus you have stuff like conversion of energy , which mutants are constantly breaking. Extending our proverbial shark further from genetics adapts x-men to the new era.

>>89358050
Fuck Cyclops and fuck mutant people

>>89373187
Racist

>>89373162
Manipulation of extra-dimensional energies is how magic works in Marvel Universe. If so many things rely on this, then wouldn't it result in a unified origin for superpowers?

Fuck muties

>>89373949
HHh

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>>89373187

>>89358050
She says her power comes from "womanhood" and that men fears her because we can't comprehend the fact that independent women is a thing.
She's also the reason why the mutants are in the state they're in so she needs to get off her high horse

>>89375555
Witchcraft does illicit fear in those that practice it.

>>89375500
>not "Adam and Eve not Adam and Parasite Eve"

>>89375754
YOU'RE OFF THE CASE, BREAKOWSKI!

>>89375676
I'm taking about the blatant sexism in her statements of that wasn't painfully obvious.

>>89375887
That is an intentional mis-direction of what she said and you know it.

>>89361470
>>89361513
To be fair to Stan, he hated the name. The higher ups pushed that one.

>>89375994
No its not. Did you even read the first issue?

>>89358050
>disappears 99% of the mutants on the planet because she's mad at daddy
>wtf guys why aren't u indiscriminately killing humans to save mutantantkind
Wow what a bitch.

>>89358050
Wanda is the wonder woman of marvel

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He gets it.

>>89376443
You know you fucked up when, as a Holocaust survivor, you can't get moral high-ground over a fucking Nazi.

>>89375555
WHen did she say that

I fucking hate how the new xmen comics are full of edgy assholes

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>>89376989
When it comes to Nazis, Mags doesn't give a fuck about moral superiority.

>>89358939
It stands from Xavier.

>>89379326
Pretty cringe scene.

>>89366791
>no mutants means the celestials nuke earth as an experiment that failed to produce results.
The Celestials were more interested in the Eternals and Deviants than mutants contrary to what recent retconning wants.

And humanity would become superpowered even without mutants. It might take longer or be a different path, but their Destiny Force potential would be unleashed at some point.

It's funny how every future outside of the X-books depicts no mutants around and the sky isn't falling.

>>89358939
Ex man?

>>89379326
Somebody should've done the same thing to Magneto after he murdered tens of thousands of people during Fatal Attractions. It cuts both ways.

>>89358817
Even when Rogue was dropping the hammer on Scarlet Witch, they were blithe about it.

>One of us eliminated 9/10 of all mutants by speaking a single sentence.
>No one's ever going to let that go, are they?
>That's the plan.

>>89361500
He has contempt for current Xmen, not the franchise as a whole.

>>89361944
>Avengers office had dib

More like Bendis had dibs, and he hated her so he never used her in all that time

>>89362274
It was legit. That last bit was him being facetious.

>>89358939
the X is for Xtinction.

atleast if the Inhumans keep getting their way.

>>89366737
>missing the joke

>>89376154
Did you? Or did you just parrot the fucking echochanmber?

>>89362082
It's funny because he has a legit grievance, but his solution sounds ridiculous.

>>89361748
> Children's Crusade ass-pulled Life Force and Doom when Chthon or Set were much better fits.

> Uncanny Avengers portrayed Wanda as a cold bitch.

> Then the High Evolutionary was weirdly elevated in her origin over Chthon and Magneto (both seemingly retconed out)

> Her solo comic was hugely isolated from the rest of the MU.

>>89382399
Chthon isn't relevant in current Marvel.

>>89369929
>>89371393
You guys read Worm recently?

>>89382031
That's because we already got the final grade. (pass) People that make an argument about no mutants= celestials nuke earth conveniently decide to forget that as far as celestials are concerned the whole job is done and they don't have to check back.

>>89382031
Rob from Comics Explained will be angry at you now.

>>89375555
Robinson did not think this through.

> MDay was caused by Wanda being a woman.

> Shuma Gorath is apparently now a woman.

>>89382423
True. That's because there is no longer any real mystic Marvel universe. Aaron and Robinson's books pretty much portray it is as a mostly irrelevant outlier.

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>>89360866
>a fucking robot

>>89364116
How dare you call Gladiator a Queen. He's more manly than you'll ever be.

>>89385224
That scene cracks me up every time.

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New fag to Xmen here pls help with questions

Was the school public? Did people know there was mutants there? Why didn't they just you know do what scared people do and blow it the fuck up?

We're the X-Men public? If so couldn't people put two and two together and realize that the guy with claws is as tall and angry as that other guy with claws who wears yellow?

>>89385470
>Was the school public? Did people know there was mutants there?

In theory, up until Morrison's New X-Men run, no. The public thought it was just a private school run by some rich guy. During that run Xavier outed himself as a mutant and the school as a school for mutants.

>Why didn't they just you know do what scared people do and blow it the fuck up?

After they outed themselves plenty tried.

>We're the X-Men public?

Do you mean did they operate in secret, or did the world know that they were affiliated with Xavier and his school? If the latter, see above.

>If so couldn't people put two and two together and realize that the guy with claws is as tall and angry as that other guy with claws who wears yellow?

No, because Wolverine isn't tall, he's short.

>>89385670
>Do you mean did they operate in secret

I always assumed that they were public and people knew the Xmen were mutants

>Wolverine isn't tall, he's short.

My mistake

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>>89360866
> Wanda knew about the kids.
> There was a much more plausible reason for her going crazy.

>>89382436
What's that?

>>89388388
Ok. it's an original Web serial about a teenage girl who becomes a supervillain.(It's occasionally discussed on this board).

The explanation for why some people had powers turned out to be extra-dimensional aliens. One character even pointed that the evolution=powers is ridiculous.

>>89361500
The Apocalypse Twins was an amazing arc. I would recommend reading that and then dropping it. Same with Aaron's Thor run...read Godbutcher and then get out.

>>89373162

Does it matter? I mean all the x-gene was ever about was it blessed or cursed someone with variable appearance and power sets.


Getting into the punch dimension and meatverse other bullshit is just wankery.

Was anyone really reading the book of genetic freaks, 4 different versions of time travel, cosmic entities, bird people that fuck humans like rabbits, space whale jesus, space bug jesus, and several genetic freak jesi as hard science?